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Welcome to the Total Car Score Podcast, bringing you the world of cars from inside the car.
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And now your hosts, Carl Brower, Lauren Fix, and Javier Mota.
02:26
Welcome back to the Total Car Score Podcast.
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Today we are in Louisville, or Louisville, or however you want to say it, Kentucky.
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And I'm lucky to have with me two Kia internals, Mike Wilde, Director of Product Planning,
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and Derek Tai, Senior Product Planning Manager, to talk about the new vehicle.
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There's a lot of changes.
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I mean, a long list of changes for 2026.
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So whichever of you would like to start, tell us about your number one selling vehicle.
02:56
So the Kia Sportage, when we first launched this fifth generation, the most significant
03:04
enhancement that consumers noticed was the overall size.
03:08
I think the dimensions of a longer overall length and longer wheelbase actually benefited
03:14
the vehicle primarily because now you have a more spacious rear legroom, improving the
03:20
overall rear cargo room and interior dimensions.
03:22
So with this being the largest segment and pretty much the main vehicle in the household,
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this vehicle became the everyday car, or everyone's car.
03:35
And what that means is that you got to do everything right in terms of, or double duty
03:40
I should say, from daily driver to DIY to weekend trips and so on.
03:46
Yeah, I noticed that right away the rear legroom is a huge improvement.
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As now a grandparent and was a parent, the legroom is important when you have child safety
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seats because no one wants to get kicked in the back.
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And having the ability to put two child safety seats is really important and of course the
04:04
space for all the things that you have to bring with you.
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So it's a huge improvement.
04:09
I think there were so many improvements both inside and outside and technology and
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of course more performance.
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I think all of that was a huge factor.
04:18
So can you tell us more about the, we'll start with the exterior, since it's the easiest.
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When you approach the vehicle, it looks completely different.
04:26
So, you know, one of the main things that we had to focus on was our opposites united
04:32
So as you know, that we have a two track strategy.
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We have the one on the SX Procedure that you had driven today and our X-Line Hybrid,
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which is a new trim for a Sportage Hybrid starting with 2026.
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The X-Line has, so these two design elements has really two unique, I would say, not necessarily
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buyers but design philosophies where the X-Line shows the rugged and confident design image
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and which is what we want to portray and a lot of what our consumers want in their
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vehicle, very emotional.
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And then the other on the SX Procedure is about having something fresh and modern
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and I don't know if you notice, but that heritage blue, it's a very nice color.
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It's, it was developed specifically for Sportage for 2026 primarily because of that image that
05:29
That's your oldest car, right?
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Isn't one of your oldest name plates?
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I think I was at the drive event for that.
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I'm sure we both were.
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But it's interesting to watch how Kia has evolved and they really amplified their
05:45
And it's funny and you may agree with this and maybe you'll just not because you can't
05:49
It used to be that Audi was the baseline.
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If you didn't meet that Audi A4 level, then your car wasn't good enough.
05:57
And now that's completely out the window and Kia and Hyundai, I know it's your sister
06:01
company but you're not here in the U.S.
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But globally, you guys have really taken over that space.
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We hired the designer from Audi, Peter Fryer.
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Yeah, and you can tell.
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You've upgraded all of your designs and designs are much more important to Kia now.
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Because it's not just price.
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It's the whole package.
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You've got to have the technology, the price, the styling, the size, like Derek said.
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And then another thing I want to add on that exterior styling is they all have more of
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So they all have the amber lighting.
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We first had that with the Telluride and now we have it for all of our vehicles,
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the amber DRLs, and also the StarMap.
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And it's got, I think, a more aggressive, bolder appearance, the front end.
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The front end, you know, it's a tough segment.
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It's a very competitive segment so we want to stay ahead of the competitors.
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I think it's probably the busiest segment.
06:50
One thing you did, and I constantly complain about it, and I don't know if you heard me
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or not, but you took the rear wiper and you tucked it up underneath the upper wing.
06:59
That is a super smart idea, whether you were involved in that or not, you can take
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credit for it because I live in Buffalo, New York and we use ice scrapers.
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And when you ice scrape the back, the wing always gets damaged because of course
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ice and it sticks to the glass.
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If it's tucked up underneath it protects them and those little small wiper blades
07:15
are really expensive, much more than the front blades.
07:18
So that was one positive that I saw, I'm like, yay.
07:21
It also looks a lot better.
07:23
It's cleaner, more aerodynamic.
07:24
Yes, that's something we've been working on for a while.
07:27
It was a good move.
07:28
That was a real smart move.
07:29
Yeah, we do pay attention to the aesthetics and the fine details that really what
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it does is it helps improve the consumers' daily lives.
07:38
The vehicle should be able to improve their lives and be complementary
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and not make it a lot more difficult.
07:45
Moving to the interior, massive changes.
07:49
You walk into this big screen, but not too big.
07:52
It's not a Tesla where it's ridiculous.
07:56
It's driver-focused.
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And for the consumer, because you're there every day, you sit in seat.
08:01
He didn't ventilate the seats on the top trim level and three-stage heated seats
08:06
I don't think anyone else in the class has it.
08:08
You have three-stage heated seats.
08:09
So little details like that I think are decision makers for consumers.
08:15
So tell us more about the interior.
08:16
So in terms of the interior, the first thing I think of is when you first open a door,
08:23
what is that first impression?
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I mean, of course, that's on the design aesthetics, but the second is the moment
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you sit on that vehicle, we want to be able to focus on that comfort level and
08:34
also the feeling of, okay, I feel confident in this vehicle.
08:39
Because that's one of the things that the consumers have told me in our research,
08:43
is that what is it that you want most in your vehicle?
08:46
And it's about having that confidence.
08:48
You mentioned that you live in New York.
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And one of the things is, well, when it snows, what happens?
08:56
Consumers tend to either be a little afraid to drive in the snow.
09:01
So the main point is that we wanted to have the consumers feeling comfortable in the
09:04
vehicle and also confident.
09:06
So we've improved the interior in terms of, yes, we still have the dual 12.3-inch
09:11
screen, but what really changed is what's behind it.
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And we added our new connected car navigation cockpit, which not only added
09:18
wireless carplay and Android Auto for all trims.
09:25
Because some brains are charging extra.
09:26
Again, setting the baseline, this is what you have to do in order to make
09:30
And then in terms of the infotainment, it's very intuitive.
09:35
Because it's a connected car, it's our new platform.
09:39
The latency has been minimized.
09:45
The seats were real comfortable.
09:46
I wish there was lumbar on the passenger side.
09:48
That's just a personal thing.
09:49
We'll have to write that down.
09:52
Because here's why I said that.
09:53
You're going on a road trip.
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And my husband's driving.
09:56
And it says, OK, I'm tired.
09:59
So the person in the passenger seat suffers.
10:01
So that's just a personal thing.
10:04
Way back when, they used to call me out in the Kia meetings and say, yeah, we have lumbar
10:08
on the passenger side.
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So I am the lumbar queen.
10:12
So that's sort of become my title, I guess.
10:15
As far as the steering wheel, that looked really cool.
10:17
It was leather, flat top and bottom.
10:22
It didn't block your vision.
10:23
And that huge 10-inch head-up display, that was awesome.
10:27
So the steering wheel, I'm glad you noticed, is that the intent is to improve the visibility.
10:32
So again, that's, I don't want to say it's safety-related, but in a way it is.
10:36
Because now you want to make sure that you're feeling very comfortable and confident driving.
10:41
So it doesn't block your view.
10:42
You mentioned the head-up display.
10:44
So yes, that is a first for us.
10:47
Also what's interesting is that taking that step further is allowing the turn-by-turn
10:51
directions to display.
10:55
I mean, everything's traffic sign recognition.
10:57
It was right there, and it wasn't so small you couldn't see it.
11:00
But even you could see it through your glasses.
11:01
I wore polarized sunglasses, and I could see it.
11:04
Not every brand's doing that.
11:05
So if you're buying a car, and it has head-up display, put on your sunglasses and see if
11:10
So that's good that you made it bright enough that you could see it, but not so bright
11:14
that it was unusable.
11:17
So there's other things that have been changed in this car, too, if you'd like to add
11:21
some of the goodies.
11:22
There's a lot of stuff.
11:23
I mean, there was so many changes.
11:25
The list was quite extensive.
11:27
Well we do pay attention to a lot of details.
11:31
So for example, the wireless charging has been improved.
11:35
In terms of the usability of it, the surface where you put your phone and having clear physical
11:43
or visual elements to let the driver know, OK, am I putting it here?
11:47
It's a lot more efficient, and it prevents really the phone from sliding while you're
11:52
taking turns or whatever it might be.
11:56
I mean, I think for me, one of my favorite things is about the colors.
12:01
I mean, I know that it adds some bonding element because it's very emotional.
12:07
You know, when you look at the exterior, you also want the interior to complement.
12:11
And you are in the vehicle for, you could be in the vehicle for several hours at a
12:16
And being on a road trip, eyes get tired, but at the same time, when you look around
12:20
your interior, it's very comforting.
12:22
Yeah, I like the colors.
12:24
There are so many cars out there that have the choices of a black interior or some boring
12:29
color, but you made it nice.
12:30
You have nice material changes also.
12:32
I noticed there was like a suede material across where your back would go, and I believe
12:37
it's a leatherette through the rest of it.
12:40
It was nice looking too, and different designs and styling, I think, because I think what
12:44
people don't realize is when you buy a car, it may look great on the outside
12:47
It's where you live.
12:48
So it has to be appealing.
12:49
It has to be engaging.
12:50
It has to be intuitive.
12:52
And of course, also, not only the front passengers, but the rear passengers.
12:57
You mentioned the heated rear seats having the three settings, so that's really important
13:01
because all passengers should be comfortable in the vehicle.
13:05
Well, as far as safety, five-star crash test rating from NHTSA is huge.
13:13
And not all the brands, none of the competitors have that.
13:16
I mean, they just won't say it.
13:18
I used to be a dealer trainer, so I always say safety and security
13:24
I mean, for you as a consumer and also for the dealer, because they want you to have
13:27
something comfortable.
13:28
Now, there are some optional things.
13:29
Can you tell us about some of the optional safety features that you've added?
13:34
So as far as what's new is we have this Ford Collision
13:38
Avoidance 2, which also adds HDA2 and also Lane Keeping Assist.
13:45
And pretty much the standard system, the Ford Collision Avoidance, adds junction turning,
13:50
and it's also radar sensing.
13:53
And so that's in addition to the camera base that we had in the previous year.
13:57
So by having both camera and effusion standard, for example, it provides better coverage
14:03
and detection for pedestrian, car, cyclist, and now junction turning.
14:10
That's really important.
14:11
I've seen a lot of accidents.
14:13
You miss that or someone doesn't see you.
14:16
The intervention and all that is really, it saves lives.
14:19
And it not only looks forward, but also to the side.
14:21
So we have radar to the side and the side of the bumpers.
14:23
So we added more radar.
14:26
So if a car is coming at you from the intersection, you'll see it and help you avoid it.
14:31
And it has not only will stop you, but it has evasive steering.
14:35
So if there was a car coming at you, it could help steer out of the way.
14:38
If you can't break in time, it'll actually steer the car.
14:41
So that's a very advanced system.
14:43
Our most advanced system that we have for you.
14:45
I was going to say that's pretty advanced.
14:46
I don't think any of the competitors have anything close to that.
14:47
I don't think so either.
14:48
So that's important.
14:50
Safety sells, right?
14:52
And the one thing that motivates me the most is about who's driving the vehicle.
14:56
I want every consumer, whether...
14:59
So when you really think about it, yes, there's a couple that's driving the vehicle,
15:03
but you also have young drivers, new drivers, older drivers.
15:05
So you really need to anticipate everyone's needs.
15:10
But everyone may be quick to react.
15:13
So that's why we have added all these safety features and optional safety features, I think,
15:17
in the event that they need it, it's right there.
15:20
So one of the things I think that's big when you made the vehicle bigger was 40 cubic
15:24
feet of storage, which you may not realize it's a lot.
15:28
And then you put that in the seats and you've got even more.
15:31
Is that the largest in the segment?
15:33
It's one of the largest.
15:34
I mean, you know, new competitors do come out, so they're spending so much for
15:41
And the seats fold completely flat, which isn't the case for all of you.
15:45
So it's the easiest to store your stuff in the back.
15:47
Important to note if you're moving your kid to college.
15:50
And it has underfloor storage, right?
15:53
So dual level, so that increases your...
15:56
A lot of brands aren't doing that.
15:58
You know, great to have a tire inflation product, but when you need a tire, you're
16:04
And if you don't know how to change a tire, you should learn how to do that.
16:05
That's really important.
16:06
I think one of the big things besides the fact that you offer it in gas, you offer it
16:10
in hybrid, and you also offer plug-in hybrid.
16:14
And the plug-in hybrid is coming soon, I think, but right now we have hybrid and gas
16:21
Is the fact that the price point is really good, because right now there's very few
16:27
vehicles available on the road in total below $30,000.
16:30
It used to be below $20,000.
16:31
There's nothing there now.
16:33
But below $30,000, and you're getting all of this value, is there anything else you
16:38
can tell us about the vehicle that would make people say, you know what?
16:41
I got to take this for a ride.
16:43
You know, the thing is, I mentioned the LX trim, yes, at a starting point of $30,290.
16:50
A lot of people may not realize, but we do fight pretty hard to get consumers to
16:56
be able to afford their vehicles.
16:58
I understand with inflation increasing, so the cost of living increasing.
17:02
But the storage hybrid does a lot of things that helps minimize or at least control that
17:07
cost of living, having the best-in-class fuel economy on the LX.
17:11
So you have the lowest price or an affordable price point, and you have the best-in-class
17:16
But that means is that you have the fuel savings.
17:19
I did mention also that in our presentation that reserve value is among the top.
17:28
You guys have come a long way.
17:30
What the key is, and this is where no one beats it other than Hyundai and matches it, 10-year
17:34
100,000 mile warranty.
17:36
I think that's why people buy it.
17:38
I think it's a big selling point.
17:40
Lots of big changes.
17:41
So congratulations, and the gas version is built in West Point, Georgia.
17:47
I was at the factory when it opened.
17:48
It was a long time ago.
17:50
And then we have hybrids and plug-in hybrids coming, so that'll be cool.
17:53
Those should be in dealers soon, I assume.
17:54
For the plug-in hybrids, yes, very soon.
17:56
So that's what you want.
17:58
And everything that people want, pick what works for you.
18:03
Well, thank you so much, Derek and Mike for coming out.
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Take one for a test drive.
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I think you'll be very impressed.
18:08
We were very impressed.
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My review is on Car Coach Reports.
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You'll also see it on other outlets.
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Javier will be driving this later, as well as Carl.
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And this vehicle is running for North American SUV of the year.
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We'll see what happens.
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Thanks so much for your time.
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