Seeking Challenges on Motorcycles with Kris Ziemlo #460

What is up everyone and welcome back to the fast side podcast after this episode I'm sitting

down with Chris Simlow who I've known for many years but more importantly this dude

has done some amazing things on this road glide that is on the cover photo of this podcast.

He literally rode this thing around the BRL track for a full year in the early days of

the Bagger Racing League and then turned around and changed the entire bike up and decided to

ride it to the hardest parts of America Alaska all the way up there and back and in this podcast

we're kind of talking about some of the thought process and the challenges that was a part of

this type of journey and got me super inspired by listening to him talk about this. Also while

we're recording while I'm recording this right now Chris is down in the middle of Mexico doing

another amazing road trip so follow along there's a link to him in the description this is a rad

dude and hopefully you'll get as inspired as I did listening to this but before we jump into it

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Hey guys you ready to let the dogs out?

Chris what's up dude it's been a long time coming yeah I would agree yeah it's uh what was the

first camp out you came to um I don't know maybe your third one but it starts it starts before

that for real yeah you were you at the uh Sturgis 2019 okay so you're at the house Starbucks yeah

I wasn't at the house um I think it was Eddie Rosen Chamberlain Kyle Cliff uh we all met at

that Starbucks in Bedwood we took that photo uh-huh everybody was running walking back and forth

because it was like a line of 10 or 12 bikes it was like the only performance baggers in Sturgis

at the time at the time I would agree and it was just a row of Olens uh hanging off I took a photo

that Kyle's butt I got a I do have a photo of Kyle's butt so but I took a photo of the row of

Olens and like Olens themselves have used it yeah they've used it multiple times yeah you know what

I mean they asked so it's all good but like yeah that was an iconic year man like it was a me and

Steve kind of we had our own fucking crazy story getting there that that year yeah that was the ticket

yeah I remember a lot it was with uh Shredder Bob Shredder Bob Parker yeah

that was a long time ago it was a damn near seven years ago almost yeah you know what I mean

it's crazy a lot has changed oh shit yeah yeah so the third camp out that would have been the

2021 then huh uh because we did it

we did it in 18 19 and then yeah 2020 I think it's the third okay so 20 or 2021 I'm not really

sure okay yeah um but no that's crazy man but you know I really you know I'm glad that you're

kind of passing through here on the way on the on this current trip you're on because like I was

saying earlier I feel like this is such a great conversation to have about the travels that you've

done and the travels you're on at this time because it's like the time of the season where

everybody's getting amped up to be out on bikes and doing their trips and you know we're coming

up on May and June where most people are taking their motorcycle trips across the place so you

know what I mean I do um I just I'm glad it worked out this has been a great day so far I've had

great weather very little traffic nothing too crazy got to see Justin today and uh I'm just

so glad this worked out because I think we talked about uh doing something that mama tried it yeah

last year the year before uh it was a while ago yeah I've always wanted to stop through uh the

northern Illinois area because you're more rockford area right um I'm like 30 miles outside

okay so that it's it's right off the highway Chicago yeah that's right we were talking about

everyone avoid Chicago like to play I want to go to Chicago and spend time there so bad

because I got you dude I just you just got to have a local you got to be with somebody that

knows the city to know where to take you because it's one of those cities in my opinion that you

could quickly fall in tourist traps oh yeah you know what I mean like where to go where's

where's the cool bars the cool food or the great food and you know like I don't just the local dives

kind of thing you know I got you when you come yeah whatever you need I want to do it so bad

we're I'm out in the burbs now a little bit so depending on how traffic is or what day

it can be 35 minutes to downtown or it can be two hours yeah but there's ways to get around stuff

yeah the the uh the boys at da performance once they that's the only time I've ever got off the

highway in Chicago uh-huh they're in elsep I think yeah so I wrote with him he took me through a

couple little spots and we ended up having some pizza somewhere I have no idea where it was but

it was pretty close to downtown just it's it's like a mini new york but not really that small

you know what I mean it's very it'll take you a long time to get around yeah but it has its own

little pockets just like every other major city or hub

downtown really can be a tourist trap it's one of those things where like nine o'clock it shuts down

oh and then the out yeah and there's not really anything there anymore so everything's kind of

moved out to the chicago land area okay yeah and the food is what yeah I keep I always say man

the food dude that's the what's what's your favorite like when you say the food out there

what's what's your go-to if you're if someone's come to town and you want to get the chicago

experience where you taking the um usually everybody wants some kind of tourist trap pizza the big

thick stuff yeah not really big fan um if I was to make it hey you want to try some pizza like

let's go to lumonades or birds or something like that yeah and then um you know they everyone

wants I want the Italian beef so you could go to the staples you know there's johnny's there's

al's there there's a bunch it really all I always ask what do you what do you want

because I know you already have an idea yeah and I'll try to give somebody a direction on on where

they're in a burger phase so there's you know alcheval and kuma's corner and all these different

little things you can go to but I'm a foodie at heart dude I love food and when everybody comes

in like oh we're gonna go do the the sears tower we're gonna go on the observation deck I'm like

all right well we want to eat though yeah that's what I think breaking bread and eating food is

like one of the best chances to you know solidify friendships and and good times you know what I mean

like because you're you're you're present in that moment sitting at a table eating

conversing things like it's a small portion of time that you're not staring at a device

exactly because that's kind of like a problem where yeah under hey let's have a conversation and then

someone pulls her phone out you know no one can take the eight seconds to breathe you know what

yeah it's wild yeah Devin's like the master of barbecue here because anytime people come to

Texas they want barbecue and I'm just not I'm not saying I don't like barbecue I do like it but I

just don't know shit about it I'd love to try some of the the staples just like you know you go

anywhere yeah but um you know there's barbecues awesome you can get it all over the place but

there's a certain like staple if you're coming to Texas you gotta try the barbecue what's the

uh like she's like a grandma or a mom what what what is it called so there's a couple snows as

snows is one in Lexington which is down by Austin and it's an old woman by the name of Totsi she's

been doing it forever that's the one yeah yeah and like there's like a line and she gives you

beer in the line yeah beer at that they do that and they do Tito's mixed drinks free you just you

just tip the bartender and like you're in line at four or five in the morning and then they open

the bar at eight and they don't start serving to like nine I think it's like between nine and ten

so yeah so like by the time you get up there you're like hammered yeah you've been up and it's

everything tastes delicious at that point I just don't know that like I'm I'm not a line guy you

know what I mean I'm yeah I have a problem with the line stuff and that's probably one of my biggest

turnoffs about doing the barbecue things when there's a huge line to get in I'd rather it just

like like set a reservation up and so so here's the thing with the barbecue thing though with the

line what's nice about it it's not just the food it's the experience because when you're standing

you're committed you know when we did that I did with Jaden and we're there and we met probably

people from they came from Europe like it was this big deal and like you by the time you're

eating you're more excited to see how they're gonna enjoy it because they're even more invested than

you and it really is you you meet people and that's the thing is the joy of it the tradition the fact

that it was a very cheap cut of meat and people have passed down their family traditions to make

this what it is that's what I think is interesting about it for a long time barbecue wasn't something

you could take you can learn in college you had to like you to learn a family secret and how to do

it so that I feel like the Americana of it is really interesting as well so that's that's kind

of my that's a good point yeah yeah there's a I like a I think they shut it down but in Phoenix

I've talked about it before is this place called uh Durant's and it was like this steakhouse that

you had to walk through the kitchen to get into it's like an old mob style place and apparently

I was talking to the guys at FXR division took me there one of the best steaks I've ever had in my

life and um they said that something got closed down or something been open for like 50 years or

some crazy shit man it's wild but I get it there's an experience so I think I just haven't had that

experience and because I grew up here that like barbecue is you know it's just part of like I

know exactly what you mean it's the same thing with pizza like on taverns I'm like that's regular

pizza dude yeah it's regular that you just named it something else yeah so I like fusion foods when

people do like different fusions of like like I've talked about this before too so I apologize but uh

sacks took me to eat sushi in Salt Lake and apparently it's a huge thing out there that like

they fly in or I don't know what they do but basically it's a hub for sushi in Salt Lake City

and I had these like fusion style like it's so far from the coast yeah I know right like Mexican

flavored sushi and it was I still to this day think about it and like man I would love to have that

again you know like a green salsa verde on like a sushi roll it was just it was delicious man have

you tried the sushi burritos yet it's you got to get something crunchy in there otherwise there's

like one big soft thing you're like this is too much soft you're like yeah this seaweed or something

that's weird yeah but uh yeah there's a couple like Korean joints that do the fusion so they're

like yeah get the sushi burrito I'm like put something crunchy in there so do you incorporate

this type of stuff like the foodie type aspect to your trips when you go places oh yeah yeah um

usually I have something in mind if I'm going somewhere I'm like okay if I'm going here I want

to try this or that you know it's just something to look forward to so the the one trip before we

get into the current trip yeah the Alaska trip right okay to me that was a pretty wow one because

you changed the bike up quite a bit the roguelite up quite a bit because you took it from basically

being a race bike yeah it was like a street bike and then um in you know our mutual friends with

like Bob and stuff he's like come race yeah all right so he kind of helped me along and took me

under his wing and then I we did it whole year uh with Steve and all that stuff did uh BRL and then

I had this goal in my head of like I'm gonna take it there I'm like the bike's doing fine it didn't

blow up you know I'll throw some navies on it and you know go do some some gravel road how would

like you pretty much knew that you were gonna have to swap the tires out was there a plan to

go on the roads that weren't paved or is there a paved road all the way to Alaska I mean how does

that work okay so there's the lots unpack there um sorry my compressor's on for my airbrush it's

okay uh I'm not at my best today I'm a little tired but it's all good going from memory basically

it was 6,200 miles the route I took on street tires it was pretty much all pavement I I stayed

on pavement like 99.99% all the way to Fairbanks there was a small portion in Glacier National Park

that was like 11 miles of gravel brutal excuse me and um I made it all the way up there I so I sent

I knew I was going all the way to the top no matter what yeah it was at Prudhoe Bay or something so

yeah Prudhoe Bay or Dead Horse and that's from Fairbanks it's called the Hall Road or the Dalton

Highway they have a bunch of names uh America's deadliest highway whatever ice road truck whatever

ice road trucker says you know what I mean um but the goal was to just go as far as I could uh

and that's that's it was just go as far as I you could go and see if I could make it and being

self-reliant and all that kind of thing um so two weeks ahead of time I had sent

knobbies up to Fairbanks it's kind of a thing you do a little research you start realizing there's

kind of tips and tricks um and I set the tires ahead of time the thing is is they know people

are doing the stuff so you're kind of like Hawaii Alaska they're separated yeah things

become way more expensive so I got up there like yeah we'll do an oil change and we'll mount your

tires and like $1,700 and I'm like oh my god you know and then they took a look at my bike and they

were like do you want to work on it yeah I was like um well that saved me some money he's like yeah

we'll cut it down I'm like all right so they rolled it on the lift they mounted the tires for me I

did the oil change I'm out of my fender a little higher because I didn't want the mud to stick in

there um kind of off track now but the adult and highway is made from calcium chloride it's like

a concrete hardener and they just basically mold it during the year um when it's not snow and ice

and they have two seasons much like everyone else construction and winter and so um

is it mainly like oil or something they were finding up there or piping down yeah so there's a

pipeline there's so nobody actually lives in Dead Horse yeah um it's kind of like you go up

there for two weeks then you fly home two weeks three weeks whatever thing they have a couple

different companies and a couple different like barracks style things yeah um yeah there's a we're

going into a bunch different directions I'm trying to stay on track what was the question again

what just like details about this trip man like so when you went up to the you know when you ride

like how long is that road like to go from Fairbanks to say so it's like 515 miles

I think that's what it was really like on that trip so you leave Fairbanks and you make it about

a hundred something and uh there's like a little camp um I knew that their services were few and

far between I also have a 124 that's thirsty you know oh yeah so that's kind of a problem yeah um

and man I was cruising I had like good weather I was uh it was like solid and the road was

almost pavement-ish like and there's don't get me wrong people are going to tell you that it's

all dirt it's all gravel it's all mud there's a lot of sections that are paved yeah um it comes

and goes it's in poor shape um the ground freezes you'll get to know what frost heaves are and it

will change your life um that's why they make like bumper stickers like I love frost heaves I got a

bunch of those um so there's like a camp I missed that camp I completely missed it I don't know how

I I spaced uh and I blew right past it um I brought a three gallon roto packs with me

and I made it I started looking down ago I should have hit this camp by now

stop pulled over I'll never forget there was like a eagle I think it was not a hawk but I think it

was an eagle took a picture of it and I'm sitting here constantly I'm like what did I do wrong

I missed this I can't go back yeah so I filled it up and I made it with fumes to a spot called

coldfoot and it's generally what people say is like kind of like the middle okay it's another camp

um the only thing there is like the DOT guys okay you know like uh they maintain the road and all

the kind of stuff because that road really is it's not for adventure riders it's it's a work road

it's for the truckers to take supplies back and forth we're on their road yeah yeah so

they really don't have any obligation to slow down or just yeah acknowledge you're there

you're on their road this is their life so most of them were great um had a couple experiences

that were sketchy to say the least um and by the way I wasn't the only one doing this

there was another guy named uh Zach I'm gonna butcher his name Sobrowski and that dude's an

animal makes me look like nothing yeah um I'll get to him a little later um but yeah so I got to

coldfoot I was it started raining and the road deteriorated fast like it that calcium chloride

turns to like sludge slime oh and then it's like slime on like butter on ice there's no grip there's

nothing and I really wish I would have chose a different tread pattern yeah because the shinkos

were not good at mud uh road glide is a terrible dirt bike so if you're like I'm taking I'm gonna

take a Harley up there actually I just don't yeah just don't don't do something else yeah take it from

me it sucks it's hard it makes it very like I I just bought a adventure style bike uh it'd be like

wondering if I'm gonna die just dump this thing you know 200 miles from somebody break your leg

and what's the uh what's the terrain like on this road is it something where it's kind of like more

vast plains kind of openness or is it it looks like oh it's it's it's a couple different things

so you're crossing into the Arctic Circle um and the beginning of it is kind of plains like

and then it starts getting into more mountainous the best thing I could think of would be

if you've ever seen the movie like Prometheus like the alien type movie where it's got like that

kind of terrain I think it's it is up north I'm not sure where they shot it but that's all I

kept thinking was it's like it looked alien to you it's it's super cool um and then from I mean

there's other stuff to say about coldfoot I met these two cool dudes um I was just sitting there

having a beer and they're staring at me wet and they're like yeah right dude I'm like yeah I gotta

go set up my tent in the rain he's like hey we got a conic box do you want to go sleep in there

I'm like oh fuck yeah you know yeah I I met so many great people on this trip um and uh that's

how they treat human trafficking they put you in a conic spot yeah right he just takes off

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me sleep inside a context box set my cot up I didn't sleep in the bed that's on there and woke up

the next day and it was raining again and from cold foot it starts getting mountainous so from

there you have to go over the Brooks range which is like the highest pass in Alaska and you're

talking 12 to 16 percent grades in the mud so is this where the ice road trucker stuff is

filming crazy shit I've never watched the show I've never watched either I've just seen clips of

yeah I just always some kind of random I should catch the commercial where everyone is always

gonna almost wreck yeah well it's funny like the first major up the guardrails are just like

wracked like somebody went off that thing you know and I'm just going slow I'm trying to not get

sucked into a rut and get pulled right off the road you know it just gets really sketchy real

fast when it's wet and it's two completely different roads when it's dry it's almost like

a fire road where you can do it like you really yeah you know you've written some of the back

roads you're like oh this sucks but you could probably do 40 50 60 miles an hour right yeah

the wet you're like man I don't really want to go faster than 35 like if I come down do I feel

like I want to crash at 35 or 60 you know it's gonna hurt I'm sure it's gonna be in your mind

too like like you said you're alone nowhere so like you even something small you like break your

leg you're not getting help anytime and when someone you see let's say you let's say you don't

even get hurt let's say you're you're okay and you break your bike am I willing to walk 65 miles

am I willing and that's it well I mean there is people going on the road it's it's a work road

I was I did it on like a Sunday so there was like nobody and yeah so I kept going north you go to

like this I think it's finger ridge I think it was and it's finger something and it's like a big

rock on top of a hill took a picture at the top my phone was kind of busted so that wasn't super

clear it's kind of bummed out about that and then I made it to the Arctic Circle side and most people

turn around there because you get your yeah made it to the Arctic Circle you know

because what's the point of going all the way to the end it's not exactly it's all work yeah yeah

it's there's how many more miles is it past the Arctic Circle

160 something maybe I'm going by memory here I'm probably wrong is it like you get to the edge of

it and it's just like a coastline and you're just looking at no no it's so once you get over

the Brooks Range it's flat again and then it turns into like a shit paved road and it's all frost

heaves and then out of nowhere smoothest pavement I've ever ridden out my life it's like the the

ground is still frozen it doesn't unthaw so I was doing like 90 it was so smooth which was stupid

because yeah you know it was like pavement once you hit a certain point and all the way to to

Prudhoe Bay and then when you get there I said nobody lives there you need to make reservations

ahead of time to actually so the coastline is owned by the oil company you have to take a tour

mm-hmm and you can stay at like Dead Horse Camp or Aurora I think there's like four places now

and it's not cheap I think the Aurora was like 350 a night yeah but it's 24 hours they have like

because the sun doesn't really go down so they have like sunshades in the rooms and it was like

being back in the Marine Corps dude like they have a it's like a barracks style there's people

doing laundry there's a mess hall that's going like 24 hours because the shifts yeah and you can

just walk in and grab food at any time of the day it's the food was awesome it was it was so good

they make they make sure those guys stay happy because they're up there you know you're secluded

you don't want disgruntled people in the you know and I think that's the plot of a movie you know

the thing or whatever and uh no the food was awesome um I slept great and then I woke up the

next day and rode to Dead Horse Camp and got on the tour bus and we got to see the bear that

they're rewarding us about at the barracks they're like don't go outside because you can't they don't

let you tent camp up there because the bears it's a problem and um are they just normal like brown

bears or polar bears up there not polar bears brown bears yeah but they just they're roman dude

which is kind of funny what so I mean when you're riding though I mean do you see them

I did not see a bear um that would freak me out just seeing I saw the bear on the tour they were

just walking around yeah but I didn't see it while I was on my bike but I wonder if like all the noise

from like the road might push I don't know not in my experience with bears I've seen bears on the road

a lot of times I just didn't see it at that point um to go back to the Arctic Circle sign so

I was like well I gotta take a picture next to the Arctic Circle right now

dude I pulled into this little spot kind of like you know normal observation area you'd find in

the smokies or whatever the sign and telling about the um there's like a little tourist thing

it was kind of nice and um it was slippery as not and I put my foot down and I just dropped the

bike and the bike's so loaded it's so heavy you're getting attacked by mosquitoes they're

they're huge so the the the time frame for the mosquitoes yeah they go hard yeah because they

only have like a small amount of time to get you know get their blood and their not get out you

know yeah and and they're huge so I got my little mosquito net on I'm like looking at my bike I'm

like well this is stupid I'm I haven't seen a truck in maybe an hour I don't hear anything

on the road I gotta get this bike up and I don't know if I can do it so I gotta do something

and take all my shit off the bike all the bags everything now it's just a bike and it's still

heavy I'm sliding and slippery and all of a sudden I hear shit in the woods like like something huge

just going through the woods I'm like yeah is it a moose is it a bear yeah whatever it is

it's probably gonna fucking eat me and you can't bring anything into like Canada so there's a whole

kind of problematic thing where um you can spend a couple hundred dollars and get bear spray so you

can you can't bring bear spray into Canada but you can buy it there you can bring it into Alaska

and when you gotta go back you gotta throw it out again and buy it in Canada like so you end

up spending like 200 dollars and you may never use it so I'm like fuck this I'll just die like a man

I got my knife you know um so I'm like rushing to get my stuff back on the bike I get it upwards

I'm just beat you know so I didn't see the bear my my imagination was like I there's something

right there damn so it was kind of funny um but yeah I didn't see any bears on the road but as soon

as I got on the tour not to keep bouncing around yeah um yeah there was bears crawling around there

was all warnings on the doors like watch out for they had a name um if I went back to my photos

I'm sure I could tell you the name so overall like with you know of all the places you could go in

like Alaska that that's more of a bucket list like I want to go to the very top part yeah it's just

you know that's for somebody that wants to push it to the end yeah and I forgot how much the tour

was but they take you out to the water on a tour bus and then I would say while I was there

half the tour went in the water they put their toes in or their ankles and there was like three

dudes they're like I went all this way I'm going in and so I had a guy hold my phone I go I'm going

in dude ran in jumped in the water it was like 41 or 42 degrees and the water it really wasn't

the worst yeah I thought it was gonna be so much worse but you know adrenaline spot but

they gave you a towel and there's a the tour guide he does it every time just like three times a day

he goes in the water I'm like dude you're a polar bear man yeah really nice guy um so what was the

idea like what was the like just the push for the trip in general like even before he left like

I just want to go as far as I could go there's I've the saying is don't go to Alaska as a young man

because it'll ruin you it's that epic it's that gorgeous up there it can the the the journey there

will definitely change you it'll make you feel very small like going through the Yukon going

through the expanse um just you you're staring at a mountain like let's say outside Calgary

going up there I mean or in just in Alaska itself and you'll you're staring at it and you're like

man it's a big mountain and you keep riding towards it riding towards it and just keeps

getting bigger and bigger until it's the only thing you see you feel so small you're like

we are just little things on this planet you know it really it really humbles you and the nature the

views glaciers you know all the things just kind of add in and if you have the opportunity to go

I always say you should go but remember you're you're gonna want to go back and I can't wait to

go back the goal is is to ride up there with my son that'd be wild yeah would you do the

Prudhoe Bay again would you go like do the some of the more I would do the I would do the Dempster

Highway okay because I've already done that the Dempster Highway is the one that goes to the tunnel

right to like a it's like a there's a train track on the road no no the Dempster is like Prudhoe

okay um but it's not a haul road it goes to uh I'm gonna butcher the name uh

Tayatuk or something like that and um you can actually just it's just a beach you don't have

to take a tour you don't have to do that stuff um and there's actually people live up there okay

you know like the Eskimo people and uh that would be what I would probably do with him as opposed to

the the Dalton the plan I think last I saw was it's supposed to be fully paved by like 2028

that'd be good yeah there was a large portions that were paved um terrible pavement but still

better than mud I wonder what it's like paving on on you don't have I mean that's a long stretch of

highways that's the frosty so you'll be riding and then all of a sudden it's a peak like I've jumped

that bike like literally air jumped yeah um I broke so many things uh my mom how did the bike handle

like um that trip I'm blown away to stay together for real yeah uh but for the most part it did stay

together um on the way back was a problem um when I left so I went to sleep at the Aurora

and I woke up and I'm like all right most people do two days up two days back that's what I had in

my head um and when I left it was dry ish yeah enough so that man I was cruising I was like 65 70

miles an hour I was really pushing it and I've made it to go back over Attigan Pass which is at

Brooks Range yeah and it got real slimy it it never did stop raining oh yeah so it was even worse now

and uh there was a moment I so I was stuck behind a truck and a rock came up hit my shield like

cracked my shield I was pretty upset um and it's just constant slime you know wiping your stuff

and I'm like I gotta get around this guy I gotta be in front of him at least you followed a semi in

the rain you know it just sucks yeah the wind the the rain then the slime you're like I I can't do this

I gotta get around him so I go around him which probably was a problem in his head yeah don't

pass me this is my road you know yeah and um I get around him and I end up slowing down a little

bit because now I'm going uphill and I look at my and he's right on my ass I'm like oh fuck dude

like if I do anything there's no time for him to stop he's he's running me over yeah and in my head

I was like dude if I make a mistake this is over I'm not making it home and at this point there's

no guardrails it's just you're dropping yeah it's it's there's a reason it's dangerous um

and that's why I say I'm like if you have the opportunity to not take a Harley on it don't

do that yeah yeah take something that can handle it um but this was the start of my journey of

mentally dialing back my own ego I almost killed myself because of my ego I had to get around him

you know that whole thing and I put my life at risk where people depend on me I've got

two small boys and a wife at home yeah and I had to get around you know I put myself in a real

predicament and I was able to pull over and he blew past me I mean I have it on video where

I barely made it out of the way yeah I was like oh my god I stopped and there was an edge there

and there was no guardrail like I almost went yeah off and I'm like man what the fuck am I doing

what the fuck am I doing and at this point I was beat tired and I made it down slowly

off attic and pass and I made it to cold foot I got fuel and it was just slime I was miserable

I'm like I don't want to be on this road anymore and I'm looking at the sky I'm like man it's

still gonna be light out like it's the sun doesn't go down it's never gonna go go like all the way

down like I'm just gonna see if I can how far I can make it I got my tent if I gotta pull over I will

you know and um so I kept going and I did the whole thing in one shot damn and I made all

the way back to Fairbanks and my bike was making terrible noises like fuck yeah I am so far from

home and I know that Harley's gonna kill you like I don't know what I'm gonna do right now this is

making terrible noises and remember I told you it was a Sunday and um like I'm just gonna go back

to that Harley dealer we'll figure something out I'm like man my primary is fucked something

something happened all my linkage isn't working I was really upset and um again my ego had pushed me

to a point where I didn't I didn't think it all out I was tired there's a lot of reasons but

I kept justifying things yeah and I was going like really fast when I hit the pavement

before I made it to Fairbanks and just kind of being stupid yeah and um I power washed the bike

not enough and all that calcium chloride just like I said it's a concrete hardener

locked up all my linkages the bikes making fucked up noises I'm going back to Fairbanks Harley

and I'm like they open up in like four hours I'm just gonna park near it and I'm exhausted I just

lay down in the dirt underneath my bike the sun got brighter and brighter and brighter

and I woke up and I'm like all right let's go and I went to hit the directions because I didn't

stay right by it I went down the road and it's like an abandoned gravel parking lot and uh

they didn't open up they're closed on Mondays dude oh fuck I'm like fuck what am I gonna do

so I'm like all right I gotta figure something out so I found I'm like auto zone something

yeah I uh because nothing's moving I'm like I gotta free this stuff up dude maybe I'll go power

wash it again I make it to an auto zone I grab some WD-40 and I just start spraying everything

my bike's like littered in WD-40 speaking of which there was a trick that I learned I

pammed my bike panned yeah so that pammed yeah cooking oil yeah so that that shit wouldn't stick

to everything and I was like I'm using too much I don't want to get the shit on my tires you know

yeah I I pammed a lot of it and uh it's a good thing I did but I should have done more I dialed

it back I didn't use the whole can you know and um that stuff so it doesn't doesn't stick to your

bike kind of got that people had already talked about that was a problem yeah yeah so try to do

as much I try to know like everything that I can know before and someone's okay you gotta

pan your bike so it doesn't stick to it you know and smoking you know off the pipe and shit but um

yeah if I had done it more it probably would have been better but I I lubed everything up

just kept working it working it working it and I kept limping it a little bit

and by the time I made it to north pole Alaska I'm like I gotta do something they're closed I got

I'll head south yeah and uh it all kind of freed up and all the noises went away nice yeah yeah

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call you make how much like from so fare banks like what's anchorage do you go through anchorage

at all no no it's further south right yeah it's further south and west if you're looking at it

that way yeah but you know that wasn't the whole highlight of the trip like alaska and the dalton

highway that was pure discomfort that was only this is what i came here for i'm doing this but

just getting to fare banks was a whole different other story thing um i work we're going way out

of time i would have loved to start like in the beginning but um one of the highlights was i was

in somewhere in canada and i was rolling up in a small town and i pull up to a light in this old

dude on an adventure bike i think it was 1200 uh uh gs gs yeah but an older one like an rt i think

it is and he's just staring at me i'm like okay yeah all right what's up dude and we both take off

and he's just still staring at me i'm like what the fuck you know okay we're on the same road

you know a lot of people are doing it doesn't seem a million motorcycles and she keeps flagging me to

you know pull over pull over all right whatever let's see i'm an extrovert i'd like to meet new

people fucking i'll talk to this guy and we pull over and we just happened to pull over and it was

a beautiful like everywhere you pull over up north uh is some kind of adventure beautiful

thing right there and scenic stuff something like yourself it doesn't matter like there's

mcdonald's right there and then it's like the most beautiful waterfowl university and that's

what it was it was like a gorgeous waterfall and we started talking to this guy he's like where you

from where you going what you doing he's like i just saw your bike and it was so different

and i was like yeah you know uh the bags were out of necessity because i needed to carry shit

and i needed to strap it the Harley bags wasn't going to happen and they were already wrecked

when i crashed on Daytona yeah so there'd be a hole in the side of it i'm like i i got to do

something and their knuckle paul's like i got a whole setup i'm like let's go yeah and i was

like i'll put my 10s and all that kind of stuff started talking with this guy his name was craig

and um he's like where you going like going up to fairbanks he goes well i'm going to to toke

i'm like well it's on the way and um immediately from here i was going to get on what's called

the cassier highway uh so the cassier highway is the longest stretch without cell service in north

america it's nine to ten hours without any cell service it is the middle of fucking nowhere

yeah um it's a two lane road very pretty uh there's only one gas station in the middle

that's it and they close it like five yeah i think uh uh when i did that podcast with uh

were you running the cameras we did that one with uh chase and his dad no i was not so he had

did the uh what was that thing called the hoka hey and he talked about that little section there

because he had to go all the way to alaska as well on that gotcha yeah there's two different routes

you could take the l-can highway uh and the cassier i decided to take the cassier up in the l-can back

and we can get some different yeah yeah um so if you follow like my route it's like a different

thing yeah might not see as much as you can and um so he's like i'll go with you i'm like okay just

met you like fucking five minutes ago but well it's probably good to have a travel buddy that in

my head i'm like it's not the worst idea yeah yeah so we make it like 30 minutes and and he flags me

over pull over all right we there's nothing out here just you and me now dude like uh oh yeah and

he we pull into this little thing takes his helmet off we're getting you know mosquitoes and stuff

i'm like what's up dude like everything okay he's like i was here 35 years ago he was uh i guess

i should have said he's he's an older guy yeah and um so i felt kind of safe you know it wasn't

so like i could probably fight him yeah and um it's like i was here 35 years ago when i used to have

a camper on my truck and i pulled over here she starts telling me the story and i'm like try to be

listen and uh he's like sasquatch is real man like oh fuck this dude's gonna murder me in the woods

like what's going on right now he's like i saw this burrow and all of a sudden it was gone i packed my

shit up that night i got out of here was hearing weird noises in the woods and i'm like all right

i'm traveling with this guy for the next 10 hours let's go and uh we made it to the gas station i made

it within 15 minutes of close damn and they have a little conics box set up and this was my first

experience of the sun not going down okay it was like 11 30 and we're outside pretty bright out

and i'm making you know my uh not mre but kind of like that style if you know we pour water in the

the 20 dollar ones you get it like fucking dicks and uh we're just eating dinner he's got his own

dinner and we're just bullshitting and i'm like so what's your story dude you know what are you

doing on the road where are you going like because i'm going home i go okay you know i told him mine

you know i'm trying to get up to the top he's like ah i've did it you know a couple times it's

pretty rough he goes you're gonna have a really bad time on that bike i go all right thanks

appreciate it dude and uh he was telling me the story and this is that he started opening up you

know you're sitting there not by candlelight but kind of cooking our dinners and um he used to keep

the bike in the states his son lived in the states and uh it was not to be a downer here but um

he was bringing the bike back because his son had committed suicide and he had no one to ride

within the states anymore and he was going through some real headspace yeah you know and

he needed somebody and i was going through my own stuff that was also another part of the trip is

i needed to kind of get away i was going through a rough patch mentally as well

and so we kind of fed off each other talked to each other and really kind of confided a little bit

and i spent a thousand miles with this guy yeah and

he needed someone to talk to and listen and i needed someone as well and

more than once i caught myself up in my feelings you know and he was like

you all right man i'm like i'm getting through it dude you know and he was getting through it too

and uh we shared a lot of stuff we saw a lot of animals i saw my first moose

dude i have been chasing i i have ridden all over the fucking world and i've been in moose

territory i see the moose signs and i've always i'm like where's they don't exist yeah they don't

exist i've never seen a moose and i'm like what the fuck i saw my first moose and it was like

majestic it was amazing it was one of the best moments on a motorcycle i've ever had because

it was just standing was like a bull in the middle of the road i was like this is so big

damn yeah they are massive it is so you're like is it gonna charge me i was way back and it just

kind of looked at me like all right i'm like you know it just kind of looked at me like i was

nothing just walked in the woods just trees get out of the way yeah i mean it's they're huge dude

and um i saw a couple more after that but it like was the highlight of my trip i was like

where the fuck are these moose you know upper minnesota i have ridden yeah everywhere and uh

not everywhere it's bad way to say but a lot of moose territory finally saw one it was such a

highlight um anyway um we made it to toke we split and i just found out like six months ago he uh

he lost his battle with his uh his demons and ended up doing the same dance yeah and it was

kind of rough i mean he was like a god fearing dude like rough neck that dude was tough and it

really i had to start dealing with my own stuff and so i've been on this journey of like

going through my own headspace and that's that was a big thing with this trip as well like my

wife understands that you have a whole world going on around you i need this head this the

headspace the helmet time so that was kind of one of the big factors in getting you on the road

for that trip that's old asca trip as well yeah i've done plenty of other solo trips but that

was like something where i needed to prove something to myself i needed to push myself

farther and farther and farther until i knew what my limits were you never know how far your

limits are until you push them yeah you know what do you think about like the trip itself that

you know without getting into any details of like what's going on but like how do you think the trip

helps the mind spot the mind space being comfortable being uncomfortable is a big thing

mm-hmm i kind of shoot for discomfort now pushing myself farther and farther

seeing what i can get away with i'm tired you can go a little bit more yeah you know it's

not so much testing yourself as it is just trying to understand what your limits are

and without going too far you know and that was a big motivator the trip was

am i gonna make it to fair banks and quit yeah am i gonna make it to cold foot and quit

am i gonna am i what am i gonna do when it gets too hard yeah am i gonna be able to do it

and so that was a big motivator for the trip yeah there's a lot of things i mean in a sense

a lot of things are in your control on a trip but at the same token we were just talking about

the past you know sometimes things are out of your control the road conditions the other things

and that that diversity brings a version of you out yeah like yes it how do you deal with things

like just my second gas stop i lost all my camping shit like how do you deal with that yeah

or you give up you go home you know how do you deal with things not going your way

that's how life is yeah you know it's it's all like all tied together would you say you're the

kind of guy that uh really plans out something to tea no absolutely okay no i like to be prepared

yeah but no i enjoy winging it yeah i'm getting more into that space i've always been a very

over planner you know real controlling kind of thing of like wanting to know okay we're here

tonight we're there tonight we're there to the night you know and on my last couple of years i

haven't i didn't travel much last year it was probably the least i've traveled in the last

10 years but the last couple years prior to that my trips have that's one of the things i've been

trying to break about myself they get looser is to is to kind of go and allow whatever the

experience is to be instead of trying to control it all and force these cool opportunities you

know what i mean i have found that the best moments of my life have been unplanned yeah

i didn't think i was going to meet this guy yeah you know like i could have just said whatever

yeah i don't need to do this but you'll see that not to be there is like the fate thing but

you'll see the signs of the universe like hey just let it happen like just let things how it's gonna

be yeah and uh a good audiobook is the art of letting go who wrote that one uh offhand i'd have

to look at my thing but um another one is uh ego is the enemy i got a lot of these from austin you

remember austin yeah yeah yeah and we talk all the time about you know helping and yeah brain

it's he's getting me he's like dude journal's good yeah yeah and um great dude by the way

uh yeah just trying to fix things and be the best version of myself you know

and uh like you said letting things be like i gotta be here like what happens if you don't

yeah you know yesterday i wanted to be somewhere it wasn't gonna happen and i had a great night

i got the chinese food i got the yeah i had a great night yeah you know and i could have pushed it

farther and the times i know when i force it when i force these things

it's not the best time it could have been or it's even bad you know so if you can work on that

keep working on it yes definitely been the the the thing i've been trying to work on because

say say for instance a trip for me right there is definitely the aspect of like i need the

headspace i need the chance to be out but so much of like the business is wrapped up in that

trip huge problem in it and so i just don't i say this i don't feel like i have the luxury of

going on a motorcycle trip fully completely disconnected from what i do for a living and

i don't think i'm i can fully understand what you're saying i don't know that i'm able to let go of

that yet right i want to but it's like if i'm if i'm out on a bike going across the country

and i'm you know i want to take a photo i want to bring my camera i want to have these conversations

so it's like it's not as much work as it technically is but it's like one of those things where

if i do this big trip yeah like like when i did my seven-week trip i was on the road the anxiety

that was coming on while on the trip because i was like feeling like i didn't get enough podcast

or i don't know if i shot anything of value or any good photos like i start weighing what i

leveraged to be on the trip versus what i feel like i'm getting and i'm like this is this is a loss

i just had that conversation with justin today was without social media i would still do this

yeah yeah i mean i would that's without it i was doing it regardless and it's

my decision to share it you know what i mean i don't have a business i don't have anything you

know and i can i can understand from your portion that you have to this is your industry you know

what i mean you have to take the picture i think one of the worst thing that ruins road trips for

me is be going down the road and i'll see like a cool firework stand or some old thing i'm like

that'd be a great photo and i'd get a bunch of likes or something you know what i mean yeah and

if that's what you're thinking about and you're not lost in your head going down the road

and all you're thinking about is those things are you really doing it for the right reasons yeah

yeah you know and i can see how that could be anxiety ridden almost debilitating to where you're

like i have to do this i have to do this i have to be here yeah yeah i would say if you can

try to do one without having any business contacts try yeah just you know what you're going to right

you're gonna take the purple bike yeah but that's that's i'm making a whole i'm trying to make a two

and a half hour three hour whole video on that trip you know like yeah that's a problem the thing is

that i do have joy out of the creation of this other stuff right it it's also it it's like it

i don't want to look at it as bad there's part there's parts of traveling that yes i want to

be able to do that without the need to do these other things but i want to photograph it period

for my own like not just forward line for the memories i mean most of us you know devin will

probably tell you as well it's like we we photograph us photographers or people that love taking photos

instagram isn't where they live i mean it's not a place you really want to put photos it's like i

put it there that's a very fair point like i like this i like i want my photos printed i want them

on the wall i want people to see them and feel them in a different way so but i mean back to what

i was saying um there's like say when i'd ride the shovel head like it goes a lot with what

you were just saying of like the challenge like there's a brand new roguelite right there yeah

you know what i mean but there's there's something unknown about that shovel head

there's a discomfort in the longevity of being on it all day there's a there's a lot of limitations

as to how fast it'll go and and there's a lot you have to pay attention to and all those things add

into a way more visceral experience and when i tried to explain that to so many people it's like

most people are chasing making things easier and more proficient and i feel like i'm just trying

to go with the most experience based like not experience the most uh i want the most out of it

like mentally and physically and you know what i mean that's the right you're trying to connect

with the yeah that's the right direction yeah um the only thing i can think would maybe be like

an analogy have you heard the thing where like if you like cars don't work on them for a living

kind of thing oh yeah you know what i mean that's that's kind of i'm feeling the same analogy for

like the road trip thing you're like like road trips don't do it for a living yeah but no i think

that's the right direction because you're gonna get a completely different experience out of it

because you've done all the road glide stuff you did the the nice bikes um that fxr probably

you're going even farther back now yeah so you're getting all the motorcycle experience yeah and i

want i i really want that uh that that kind of experience you know it's uh when i sit down with

and do podcasts with the old heads they talk about what they used to do i'm like

like even me doing it like on a style bike that they did i still have a cell phone yeah i still

have like so much comfort there's a gas station every 50 miles yeah my knowns aren't there yeah it's

like you jump on a bike like that and you you break down the middle nowhere like the road has to

provide you know even though i'm on a bike and i'm ribbon you know going pretty quick yeah things are

blowing by fast yeah the world is different slowing down it is and with that bike riding slowing down

you're gonna get more out of it than yeah me blasting interstate it's a difference between

riding highway and too late exactly you know what i mean you're gonna have you're not gonna want to

be on the highway exactly you're gonna be on the you're gonna want to be on the too late yeah and

you're gonna you're gonna see the ball the giant ball of yarn and that's yeah that's exactly that's

part of the experience and i think you're gonna enjoy it more but i i think that for myself

not that i have all the time in the world for bait to be on the road but like

as i've gotten to an appointment where i can take two weeks off work pretty consistently

or maybe even push it to three weeks every once in a while i you know like i'm not gonna jump on

that bike and ride it all the way to washington it would i need a month to do that right to really

enjoy it but to ride to la go hit a little mexico come back home that's a two two and a half week

trip like that'll be a good one right you don't want to feel rushed yeah i want the time to stop

and and i want to go to the town like i i i just like uh what i was getting at is that i've i've

already blasted all the interstates to get from here to there and i've seen a lot of it and i'm

not saying that because once i ride that bike to cali and come back three weeks later i'm just up

on the road gliding going back to cali and that time i'll probably just blast it in there just

so that i can make it there you know and i'm gonna enjoy every moment of it i'm still on a bike it's

still sick but i just think that for slowing down and experiencing the road in a different way like

there's you said it best like that different speed changes how you see things and experience

things and that you can ride the same roads for the rest of your life but if you change the bike

you're on you change the experience look at how fast paced all of life is yeah phones going off

i need to immediately respond to this message otherwise i'm going to miss something there's

vomo everywhere for everything all that gone you're slowing down it's it's like detaching yeah you

know i think you're gonna have a phenomenal time on it too i'm excited about it you know to bring

it back to what i was getting at or what i was talking about with like um managing the expectations

of things like i do want to have an outline of where i want to go and what i want to see but

and i just want to be more loose on controlling the narratives of like every day every moment

right instead of like we're sitting here having a great conversation but i'm like like you were

saying with justin earlier we were hanging out we were having a good conversation but i was like

man i need to get to dallas tonight yeah so having a little bit more freedom it is a bummer

to to to open that window a little bit longer or shut it down be able to do whatever feels right

you know you're in la you're like man i'm having a good time and these people just inviting me to

something tomorrow i was planning on leaving tomorrow be cool if i could just stay be a little bit

more loose with it yeah um ironically it goes back to i was saying earlier about the whole ego

thing is like you're managing your expectations um a lot of people like myself i would catch myself

getting upset or like my kids or we're getting upset in general because i was putting my expectations

and expecting other people yeah to adhere to my expectations and it was i met i was i was getting

mad at them but i was really mad at myself yeah because i was putting their their expectations

aren't my expectations yeah you know what i mean so i have these expectations so i gotta be here i

gotta be there you know it's like i'm getting mad at myself because i'm not doing the things that

i said i was going to do yeah or i'm not going to be there the time i was going to be not going to

be there some of the guys i talked to that are loose like that so dude they're just chill as fuck

yeah you know yep i know i know a handful of them and i'm like dude i would love to just be able

to turn your worldview on in my head all the time or just whenever i want i mean i like the way i am

got me where i'm at in life and i'm not i don't hate that right but there are aspects where

i want to enjoy certain things with a different mindset of than what i currently you know and

programmed with the current operating system i fight with it all yeah you know but yeah that you

know the trips thing it's like i also noticed it for myself like um when i last year i built two

bikes right and i spent which ones were they the the brown fxr and the purple bike okay so i spent

most of last year working on bikes and there was a similar satisfaction of discovery completing

you know building you know seeing something come to life yeah the closure of it there was something

like i won't say it can replace the traveling for me being on a bike being on the road

but it gave me a unique experience or feel that like i'd really you know i don't i don't have it

that often right um to building to those depths that i did on those bikes but now it's like you

know when i'm customizing a bike i'm always daydreaming about where i want to ride this bike

too or like i envision myself on pch or that's probably why your bikes turn out so good is

because you have them in your head of what is this bike gonna do yeah how should it look how

should it perform where is it going yeah and you build it to that yeah that's probably why it turns

out like that i appreciate that i think that's a good way to look at it because some people just

bolt shit on right yeah i mean there's i mean the roguelite is going to be a lot of bolt-on stuff

you know there's a there's a you're not doing bolt-on stuff right now right well i mean those bikes

weren't bolt-on stuff well i mean like modern bikes i mean it's really i'm not gonna say it's hard i

mean justin's doing a lot of crazy stuff on his bike for born free but it it's just inherently

those bikes are technically bolt-on bikes it's not saying that it's it's bad i'm not trying to

like negate that but i think that's why i got so wrapped up in loving the chopper stuff

because everything is custom fitted custom done you know yeah it's it's more of a skill thing yeah

and there's more of an appreciation when you see one like that because you're now seeing how much

work it goes to put in you're like looking at someone's trees that are one off and you're like

okay i tried doing that earlier and it took a really like i fucking threw a set away you know

whatever you know um it's just a differentiating it yeah it's just a different experience man like

the roguelites the the low rider st all the all the bikes that i've had over the last 10 years

said that they've really been great i've loved every moment of riding them you know but i mean

ah it like i was gonna ask you like what you jump you have an adventure bike now right i mean

you're on the road glide i'm on the road glide but i didn't want a replacement for the road glide

okay uh you wanted a different experience yeah so i've been moving towards off pavement for

a while um i really fell in love with it when i was going up north you know and i've always been

kind of thinking about it there's a the trans-american trail yeah you know i've been talking about that

forever um but now i'm getting my son involved so last year did you see the trip when i went to

colorado uh no i didn't okay um i don't know if your your stuff's falling like landing in my

algorithm or whatever that's okay i i yeah you didn't even know about my japan trip i yeah i

didn't until you said uh or europe or any of that stuff um no but last year uh well when my son's

12 now yeah so two years ago it's always i mean you got kids yeah you know you it's kind of like a

love you're sharing your love of what you enjoy with them it could be anything well for us it's

motorcycles probably you know um or customization or whatever and i've been waiting since the day

was born to take my kid on the motorcycle trip yeah and uh i'm sorry if this is not close enough but

um i took him around lake michigan oh i've done it like six times but i wanted him to fall in love

with it with traveling yeah not necessarily the motorcycle part but i knew the traps of being

stuck in one small spot that's how i grew up and the closed-mindedness of it until i started traveling

the world that i realized that this is a small place people are great you know not being stuck

damon yeah um so i wanted to share that with him so i took him around lake michigan and i

just treated him like a king every night had a hotel with a pool uh rode horses on mac and island

took him on a helicopter oh dude everything right and he before the trip was even over he's like

we gotta go somewhere else it worked right yeah i was like yes i'm gonna share this with my son

it's dude the bond you i never had a father so i i have to realize that i didn't want to give him

everything i didn't have because i'm kind of giving myself everything i didn't have you know

but i wanted to teach him all the things and show him all the things that i wish somebody

would show to me yeah and so um i got into the love of travel the kid's been in like more states

and like countries than most people you know nice and uh so i started doing other trips with him i

took him to speed dealer we took the back roads and we made it right at the end of the show we didn't

even like i gave like austin a high five yeah like right we are at set home and um i also took him

to so i took him to the southern most point you know in key west he was well there's a little

spot up in northern minnesota it's a northern most point you have to go through canada to get there

oh yeah yeah so i got to like stop and see hoffman set up and all it was it was awesome

so he's been to both points nice you know and on the way to colorado we stopped in the middle

so he's been to like the top the middle and the southern most point and he's like you know

11 years old at this point and i'm you know cruising online i don't know how i saw it somebody

was sharing something on like 1k a day or iron butt and saw the record was held by a 12 year old

hey dude you're 11 yeah what do you think i want to push you into this you know but

do you want to try you know it's your choice because it's dude this is going to be real hard

and uh we rode from our house to colorado springs 1009 miles in like oh i can't remember

was it 20 hours 20 hours something's changed and you know he got the award for the

1k in a day you know young kid he's got his name on it so even for the smallest amount of time

somebody will break the record but he could say when he's 30 years old how was the youngest

kid to do a thousand miles in a day you know it was so cool and so the goal is now not to go so wide

out um we're going to ride the adventure bike and we're going to take the trans wisconsin trail

there's our first trip up to you know canada all off-road there's like a crash plane in the woods

we'll camp a moto camp you know it so we're going to start doing more adventure stuff and then

you know without giving away all my secrets you know because you know you start talking about

people end up doing it but there's a trans labrador highway there's a

trans american trail you know i got work i got kids i can't do it all in one shot it's like

27 days ago coast to coast so yeah i could do one portion here one portion there but if i can

incorporate it with him and show him all the things and the the beauty that is nature and

i'm just in love with sharing time with him that i didn't really grow up i grew up in the city

you know what i mean so i grew up in the city chicago it's like uh i remember the first time

i went camping as an adult it was giddy up oh okay like we rode to giddy up and my first camping

was a moto camping thing i i over packed i had the biggest stuff i mean you would have thought i was

bringing a i was glamping with all the shit that was on my dyna but and i just i was thinking to

myself like man i wish i would have experienced this as a kid exactly simple yeah the bike right

like simplifying stuff i don't need the hotel and also like i can and it's harder when you're

older but yeah and i mean there's an appreciation to yeah i've i've taken my son camping my daughter

camping i like to take him on road trips across the country you know it's the same yeah yeah

haven't had a chance to do one in a while uh definitely need to re-open something yeah

definitely want to um yeah so this go ahead i'm sorry i was gonna ask you so you're doing this

trip with the you're chasing the experience but you've been all over where do you want to go

um where do you dream about going i mean honestly dude like america's sick like it is awesome

there's there's to to me it's like i i'm pretty content writing i just want to ride different

bikes in different places like i want to i want to so not necessarily the location but

the motorcycle and the and the location like there i can see i could appreciate you know like

there's uh because like i said there's like a different feeling when you as you would you

could say this i mean you built your bike when you build your bike and then you have this thing

that was a vision now it's a reality and now this reality is sitting on the coastline in gold

beach organ i did this you're like it it's the an amazing kind of uh circle of life kind of

yeah when it all comes together you're like i remember when that was a frame yeah and now it's

here yep i so there's i mean there's things like i would love to do europe some different stuff in

europe uh i think the one thing i want to owe to myself is to do the entire all the way down the

bottom of south america the art yeah it's also that's kind of like if i never ride anywhere if i

never get to do japan thing or something like that if i could just do that one trip um that i

think that i would be completely content with like my motorcycle life you know i'm not as i'm not as

like hell bent on what about south america is i don't know if it's just the the i haven't i mean

i've watched the long way up i've i've watched all danger dance things when he did all that stuff and

i followed a lot of different things i haven't like deep dived it or i haven't dove into it

too deep in certain areas but you know like the salt flats in bolivia you know riding through

the andes or i don't know if you write down around the peru so bad you know those kind of things are

and i was just curious did you fall in love with their experiences or is this like something that

you wanted to do i think that there's a i mean it's it probably is something that i saw them do

mm-hmm and i'm developing more and more reasons for myself to do it now that i've seen that it

exists there's just so many things that i don't really know like you don't know it it's out there

you know you don't know it's an opportunity that is exactly what the alaska trip started out for

real yeah i saw a video and i was like i bet you that's really fucking hard yeah and i don't have

money for another bike i'm gonna do it on whatever i got yeah there was no like oh i'm gonna prove that

i could do it this is what i have this is what i'm using i've turned that bike it said 10 different

lives just like i've had 10 different lives yeah you know that's why it's all scratched up and all

fucked up because those are memories yeah you know that's what i was trying to get to that point was

not to lead you on but it was the same thing i fell in love with another experience it wasn't

like a goal like i want to go up there was like i saw someone else do that and i fell in love with

chasing that experience that someone else did yeah because you can't really do anything new anymore

yeah i don't think there's anything wrong with being inspired by other people i mean that's

literally like you know your favorite bands are usually inspired by three other bands prior to

that so it's like there's i've always said this you know like everything that you absorb and take

in creates something unique and different on the other end right of you yeah so the way that i have

fell in love with motorcycle travel is kind of unique to me and trying to share this kind of

these conversations with people to hopefully inspire somebody you know maybe they don't jump

and go all the way to the pruto bay but they're like you know what no you have you definitely have

i can't tell you how many people i've spoke to that they look forward to the camp out or whatever

and that's just a short thing but in the time frame you have influenced a lot of people you

have inspired a lot of people to just get out on their bike yeah yeah well i mean the camp out

thing is is unique uh i i never knew it became its own thing right yeah when people started

doing the convoys and the traveling to the camp out and it's and they show up i know i like these

yeah with these amazing stories of how they got there and what what happened i'm like man like

that's that's inherently what the camp out really was it was just a reason to go travel on your bike

yeah you know i think you achieved that goal i i did not have that goal at the beginning i just

was trying to get drunk in the woods with people on bikes but it became that through the way people

chose to to attack it you know what i mean and it just it got real big and it got really complicated

to run and it started losing it started to lose that i really i've said this many times and i won't

drag it out but like when you're riding your bike across the country to come party with us in the

woods and you have to drive or ride your bike through a sea of trailers and rvs i think that

was the end that was the end when you could get trailers delivered yeah which because it's like

okay well we're not all we're not we're not all in the same playing field now because we were all

sleeping in the mud it was kind of funny yeah when i woke up and like the water like crept up to the

time i was like oh this is yeah this is a thing the whole that was great yeah it was it was a

perfect event for the time you know what i mean like when we were all the the culture of performance

barriers was still young and everybody was finding it and there was this hub that everybody could go

to and ride and test themselves on the talamina against other riders and all kinds of stuff man

you know it was a lot of things and you know i'm glad it it just you know it existed and you know

something out there it did a good thing and now you're continuing on yeah yeah there's other

stuff i want to do man you know yeah what uh so this trip you're on now man like where's the whole

like did you choose did you do you see all the conflict going in mexico and go i want to go

ride into mexico right now all right there's a whole whole big caveat to that so i have been trying

so when i got back from alaska you know while i was on alaska and other trips

i've always wanted to go to mexico i i have really like some parts of motorcycle culture

meeting people and seeing it around the world like i got to see japanese motorcycle culture european

you know motorcycle culture canadian motorcycle culture and they all have their own little things

to it and i've always wanted to go experience mexico like i think we're trying to do for like

four years and every time i talk myself out of it again another thing i'm holding myself back like

most of us do we talk ourselves out of stuff we usually talk ourselves into stuff too but

no i get the sensationalism from other people no no no like something happens you know politics

from ice yeah it's always cartel it's always something yeah and usually there's other things

i want to do and i'm trying to incorporate way too much like i was telling you earlier like i want

to go i can only do so much i can't leave for weeks and weeks and weeks you know yeah i have a full

time job two kids everybody depends on me you know um and things lined up this time and so i try to

explain they're like aren't you worried about this and then i go it'll be fine like people are

vacationing in florida minnesota's on fire yeah like it's not the whole country you know

that whole Puerto Vallarta and like on fire in this net have you heard anything sense

not a fucking thing yeah it happens every time every year it just happened to be right when

i wanted to go yeah like some shit i'm like oh fuck this this is too big of a risk you know

and it just worked out time wise my wife's like yeah and she's like you're gonna do it or the

fuck you want to do anyway you know so yeah so leading into this trip like what are the like

what are the like serious concerns that you you have or or like you're putting on the table

for yourself as you go yeah i'm not stupid you know um i'm i there's concerns some of the roads

that i'm choosing are known for like extortion kidnapping stuff like that but a lot of it is

people that are looking for trouble i'm not looking for trouble uh there's you know it

other motorcycle guys there's a certain respect that goes with it and i'm not banking on that

yeah but that i made a couple contacts down there um through friends yeah and

maybe they'll call ahead let me through or it's actually there's something going on right now

there's like a trucker's union that's trying to shut down highways so i'm like leery of which

highways i'm gonna go on because they're gonna shut it down like i don't know if you saw sand

of all yeah just went i don't know if you watch that thing it was it's really good you did a great

job um it was very entertaining and he got stuck behind some road closures and stuff and um my concerns

are obviously there's corruption in this net but that's it's everywhere or yeah yeah you know

there's certain parts of like chicago like you're not supposed to go there you know and i'm like

go there all time like i don't feel unsafe um i know when you're keeping your head on a swivel

you know that kind of thing don't be stupid don't be flashing money um

people are generally not in groups good people and from what i've heard what i've read

people will go out of their way to help you whether you're here there but definitely there

and i don't really have a concern i don't think i'm gonna have a problem yeah i think that if

something was to happen people will go out of their way to help me i feel like the kind of

it's like the overthinking of like almost manifesting a problem i think the media and i think

just everything out there wants to keep you scared yeah yeah in a grand scheme keep people

all the time they're just scared to leave their homes scared to do scared to do things

and you lose out on a lot of stuff oh you know i'll do it when i retire i'll do it's like dude

it gets harder yeah it does it gets harder yeah do the stuff now you know um i wish i could do that

one day like what's stopping you yeah i just want to go skydiving we'll then go yeah a lot of you

know you're never gonna get over it unless you do it so that's that's part of it is another thing

is like i've always wanted to do this so if it works let's go yeah i think you you're kind of

doing a similar route the danger dan has done a couple times where they'll go down i have no idea

what routes he's taken they usually go down to some point there's like a rally that goes on

yep that's where i'm going so there's the uh mazatlant beach party yeah motorcycle beach party

yeah um lords gas town guys are there and i heard that it's like good time yeah yeah yeah so it's

the only reservation i made nice it's the only place i had to be between the ninth and the 12th

you know so what kind of like what's like once you hit the border what's there what are you excited

about between the border and say the beach party the food the food um and then i make the the

terrible joke of the big booty latinas i made that joke too many times my wife doesn't appreciate

that joke anymore it was good the first time not anymore um no so i'm you know like we have route

66 right yeah and there's uh one of the trouble areas like port de vire that was on fire was

renosa and they're like oh it's kind of unsafe you know that people uh between the border crossing

and the toll road like it's not a good neighborhood yeah it's like okay if you go in through laredo

i guess um you're not going end to end you're now it's like starting the route 66 in st louis

like you missed a whole section dude you know i want to go whether that's smart or not i want to

do it for you and and kind of thing so that's why i'm gonna i guess it's a little bit of a risk but

then i went to the mexican consulate in chicago to because it's a whole thing you can't just cross

yeah like canada's like yeah hey buddy hey buddy guy you know like they let it it's not a problem

unless you have uh yeah but i don't have to do anything mexico's like a whole thing i have to

mexican insurance i have to have a tip a temporary import permit um then they gotta let you in like

and that's all costs money and all has to be done either at the border or at a time so i went to the

mexican consulate chicago when i'm talking to the guy i just want to never um anybody that might

have been to mexico i just keep asking you know what's their experience and um whether it makes

me feel good or bad i'm getting an honest opinion and the guy that was doing my thing is like i'm

from rinosa i'm like what do you think where would you cross laredo rinosa and he's like

i'm from rinosa i think she's like okay well that's what you were crossing what should i cross

you know and um it's like you'll be fine so i'm gonna go into rinosa and i'm gonna take

the toll road now the toll road is all new well maintained there's like national guard on it

up and down you know if you see them you see dudes with big guns you're doing all right yeah

it's when you're in the middle of nowhere when things can get funky there's a all right so there's

a guy um on instagram young dude i think his name's landon i can't remember his last name

he just took his dirt bike and just started riding all the states of mexico it's awesome

it's so cool and all his experiences and all the little things that he's posted he's like

it came to the same conclusion it made me feel so much better was just getting that sensationalism

pushed back and accepting that people are good and he has some great stories like obviously

ran into a couple roadblocks and this and that but most of it is citizens that are trying to keep

the cartel out yeah i don't know it's it's a complicated complicated and complex situation

you know yeah yeah what's intertwined and what's not and i have no idea you know

i'm not i don't even speak spanish that well we're doing a duel and go you know don't do

nostalgia biblioteca um but yeah he shows like true culture that everyone's nice and wants to help

so i'm gonna try to do 40 um through saltio and then monterey and go to durango and then from

durango there's a road 23 and it goes south and then it cuts over to like ruiz and it's hard

to show on a map but it's remote there's people but there's no services so no place to stay

no gas just barrel gas so if you're familiar with barrel gas if you if you're not um

they get gas from the gas stations and they bring it to their town if you need gas you're getting

it out of like a milk jug you know what i mean yeah hence the three gallon motopad yeah so i'm like

i'm gonna bring my own gas from durango just in case but it's not it's maybe six hours

it's like the road of 3000 turns or something and then from there go up to mazatlán get into the

that mazatlán is like a

like any other tourist kind of thing you know the big hotels and the beaches and stuff

and then they have the motorcycle beach party and i'll get there and i want to go do

40 the libre road and then 40d is the toll so the toll has like the highest bridge in Mexico

and all these cool tunnels and stuff and well maintained and supposedly safe and then the

libre the free road um it's got all the curves it's like the they call the devil's backbone okay

so those are the three roads that i'm going after i'm trying to get an introduction to

Mexico because i plan on coming back so just like going to Alaska like i'm i'm scouting all

these things i want to do with either my kid or someone else or do again i've always wanted to

kind of go down the entire california baja yeah like kind of how you're hopping over and then coming

up it i think that'd be a unique experience too just being able to every time i've ever gone on a

trip and we've put our bikes on like a ferry or something like that it's just a gnarly experience

it's so cool like when you go to Canada you're just on a ferry all time yeah to get to certain

places i love the experience yeah i even did it with my suburban ones there's a there's an island

in wisconsin called washington island and people live there yeah it's super it's super gnarly um

yeah and then come back to mazatlán hang out with you know meet people and whatever and

see what the whole so you get was it lapaz or something down there at the bottom so it goes

from mazatlán to uh lapaz okay and then lapaz is like two hours north of cabo so there's like

a loop you can do i'm gonna go down to cabo and you know i guess you could say bragging rights

but i'm gonna go to the tip yeah try to jump in the water or something you know i don't know

and then take it all the way up you know and go through ensanada and tijuana tijuana not tijuana

tijuana trying to say shit right it doesn't sound like an idiot and then um go to san diego uh i

want to go to m crd like the marine corps bootcamp yeah so i've been able to go to almost this will

be the last one i as a civilian i've gone to every place that i was in the marine corps oh nice so i

was able to get to camp fuji in japan i take that back i didn't make it to okinawa yet but i'm going

back oh nice but i will get to okinawa again um but i want to go to the bootcamp it's kind of

like a thing for me and then san diego customs and uh maybe the fast and furious thing oh the tuna

no cross thing oh yeah the i want to do a little touristy things why not yeah you know and then

i'm from venice originally so i'd like to go back and see venice mm-hmm last time i was in venice i

met danie trail for who yeah yeah i was uh in a in a movie it's like venice knights or something

okay i'm like i want to get a tattoo and i roll into this tattoo parlor and uh danie trails and

they're shooting a movie i like you want to be an extra in the back like yeah okay i don't think

i was even in the movie they cut that scene dude but it was cool to say you know i met him i got a

picture with him and said and then uh maybe go up to the nep tunes that have never been there

yeah so go check it's a good experience yeah and then cut over to um san bernino um maybe

people aren't gonna i want to go see kevin kevin's done cool shit for me i can run in his shocks

or one-offs you know um see his shop mm-hmm i really want i i think this trip is gonna turn

into something different um where it's not about me so i'm changing the way that i'm with this

journaling and stuff that i'm doing is maybe it's about the experiences of when i'm meeting

people seeing how they are like i'm here with you i saw justin i've been to kiles and steve a bunch

but there's other people i'm gonna go visit yeah and shops i'm gonna go visit and

my interpretation of what coming in cold and seeing their stuff yeah um

and either appreciating their friendship their experience them showing me the round

and then i don't know we'll see i haven't figured it out yet i got a lot of time to figure it out

and then from there um a goal of mine is always to do i like the alien shit you know yeah the world is

it's a big world man and then you think about it gets wild we're just rock floating in space and

shit so i'm like i want to go to the extraterrestrial highway i don't have time to do that so i'm

gonna stop and stop in roswell and try to camp in roswell okay i thought i saw an alien when i was

a kid i feel like roswell roswell has way more to offer in that regard than riding the extraterrestrial

highway and going to like where technically area 51 is yeah we went there and we were like

there's like a little gas like a little kiosk store and like it's it's it's so underwhelming

there's a mailbox everybody goes to check out you know i don't know there's a mailbox still there

it was there a couple years ago i mean it's been it's been a couple years since we've been there but

i got a bunch of little things saved you know it's it's cool like i've had to i think i was

either talking to devin about this or somebody but i've had to like really tone down like when

someone tells me about a trip they're doing i immediately start saying no don't do that the

highway sucks don't do that but it's like there's something about they need to experience that for

first and i'm i'm trying to like get myself to stay out of the way of someone doing that

but it's like if you come here and you like hey man the first time i'm going to california i i got

all this planned out and you're just telling me and i'm like fuck i wouldn't do that i wouldn't do

that and when it comes from a traffic's gonna be brutal right it comes from a good place but he's

always just like no no no you don't want to do that you do this and it's because he's being helpful

in here yeah because it is but it's not it's not necessarily someone that asked me hey what do you

think about this trip i'm planning because you could potentially ruin their experience maybe

possibly they need they need that that's why so i love like take going on trips with new people

like you said you asked earlier like what kind of stuff was like dude i could i love meeting somebody

that's hungry for this stuff and going like man i want to ride to california it's like well i'm

riding next month if you want to go i'll show it i will i love being i love showing someone

something for the first time oh it's the best that's the like you yeah you take someone to get

something to eat and just watching them yeah i mean do you enjoy it is it as good i don't know it

does it it kind of there's a fulfilling aspect of that like a little bit of a host mentality i do

like to you know facilitate a good time for people but um but yeah like i gotta stop being that way

where i'm like oh that shit sucks you know because everybody's their bucket list rides are usually

i want to do a million dollar highway i want to do pch i want to do you know said road you know

tele-dragon and all those things you kind of need to do it yeah but it's like when i'm thinking of

million dollar highways the number one for me that i'm like waste of time there's 10 times

cooler shit on the outskirts of it go do bear tooth go do bear tooth dude go ride uh the grand

mesa i thought was a way more fun ride i just did million dollar like with my kid yeah it's cool

yeah it's pessimistic but you're trying to be helpful it comes from a good spot i get it yeah

i get it you're trying to help me like hey me don't don't waste time but they need to yeah

because then they'll never check it off i just never know i'll always put the down there just

yeah they're just listening to someone else you know it's the same thing of like don't go to

mexico dude don't you're gonna get killed like yeah there's i guess my fear of it is that like

save monument valley right that's one of my most favorite places and it's not like a ride that you're

like oh my god the twist season turns it's just this like feeling in this place and these these sites

and the way it feels it's so it's so unexplainable right i i know what you're saying and that's how

i feel about up there yeah there's a feeling you feel small yeah and there's a hotel called the San

Juan Inn that it's on my little thing you stay there and all these little green pins everywhere on

my the stars are gnarly the the you know it's just a i've got some amazing experiences at that hotel

with good friends and to me i'm like man if if they go ride million dollar highway and they never try

to come check this out they are i'm like you you might not ever come back here because i you know

being in motorcycle thing for as long as i have man people usually they'll invest five years into

this and if they don't really get hooked or like sold on this stuff then they're out they'll go get a

jet ski or a fucking art that's what they want to do that's not for sure that's what they want to do

but if i can help facilitate helping them find what is truly or what i think is truly amazing

about this stuff but if they do all the epic stuff without any discomfort it's kind of like

flying to a spot and be like oh that's cool but you didn't get any of the stuff in between you

didn't ride in the rain part of the journey is the discomfort i think i am 100 that way mentally

but there's so many people out there that are just the other they're the completely opposite

where they want to have the experience of going to said location but they don't want the they want

to be able to go there fly there get in there go do the thing i think ruins it i do as well but

like i'm i'm just it's just a way still appreciate i'm not looking down on them it's just a way that

like i think they're wired but i think that's the social media era people want the picture at the

spot they don't want the trip to the spot yeah that's the the impulsive you know quick yeah what's

the word i'm looking for the the satisfaction the dope mean drop whatever whatever you want to say

get get it and get out kind of thing yeah but tell me that some of your best memories aren't

all of of your friends riding through a shit rainstorm yeah and at the end of the day you're

like dude that sucked and you never forgot it i don't remember the sunny days a lot we i remember

the shit days yeah though you need that because it's kind of like you always remember who you

took the trip with when it sucked all the the the weather was perfect everything was perfect

those kind of just fade into the in the memory bank oh yeah yeah that was a good time but you

don't you don't always remember those details yeah because it wasn't as not that it wasn't a good time

but it doesn't stay in the memory bank the same well nobody cares about the man last week

loose guys the whole time yeah 70 degrees beautiful you were there you were talking about

the barbecue was better because you were waiting in line and you were hungry yeah right you earned

the end of that journey you didn't just get there so it's like you walked up the

snows and you're like oh yeah it was a good sandwich but the experience was better because

you waited in line for two hours yeah you know what i'm saying yeah i think if you're gonna

put it in that kind of respect oh one yeah 100 man that's definitely the i guess it gets difficult

trying to uh you know because i don't think the goal is to go look for adversity it's to go out

there on the trip and let whatever happens happens right yeah like i'm not you know because we all

say that the i don't aim for the thunderstorms dude yeah i mean i don't want to have to go through

this you know um i would prefer to leave and avoid as much of it as possible but you know it's just

like um you know the breakdowns or you know the the on the side of the road fixes or whatever the

case may be like those things are i don't want them to happen i'm not gonna like leave a bolt

halfway out so that i can have a good time later on like it's none of that but but also just being

the the kind of person that's capable of overcoming obstacles yeah and you know sometimes you don't

know what you're capable of i mean going right back to what i was talking about earlier when i

rolled my shovel head down to awesom last weekend and it's the first time i had a breakdown on a

bike where i literally i couldn't fix it on the road i'm like well fuck you met your limit yeah

well i'm like okay well and it's a new problem better because of it yeah and that's what i was

telling everybody it's like i'm glad this happened because what happened is something i've never

experienced on like like as a problem on a bike and i'm still kind of diagnosing it right now

but what happened and like looks great by the way thank you whatever ends up being the problem

like i'll it'll never be a problem again you know what i mean so that's kind of like what i'm

telling people like i'm doing all these little little 150 200 mile uh trips so that i can really

break this thing in and learn it so that if i'm in the middle of you know nowhere going to california

or in mexico on it like and something happens like all right i know what i know what's going on i

know what i need to do you know what i mean i know exactly so what you mean because that's what

i've been trying to say the whole time yeah like pushing it to where i can get make myself better

you know what i mean yep no that's exactly it man it's a it's a great i don't know i can't

change anyone else and i don't want to and that's but that's what i can control is myself yeah and

if i can respond to adversity discomfort in a way that is letting go or whatever

i can control that yeah pushing myself i think that that's the main goal of a lot of this stuff

yeah nothing what was uh what was riding

japan like that was part of my uh thing i do with my wife so every five years i take her somewhere

and make because you know i do these solo trips but i'm trying to incorporate because we used to

ride all the time before games so it's kind of hard to get away um japan was awesome dude

it was so good um we flew to tokyo i rented a gs phenomenal bike and we went all over the country

it started off kind of funky we got there and uh hurricane typhoon yeah so our plans were

immediately fucked they were going to cancel everything the guys like i had one guy cancel

i don't trust you i don't know i'm like look dude you go look like i'm not afraid of rain dude

yeah like just whatever i'll take care of the bike he's like i don't go i had this guy he just

left it there i'm like i got it dude yeah so we made our own plans i just rode more um and we went

and saw things that most people don't get to go do i wanted when people go like uh europeans come

here are they like so what's america like and they go to like new york like that's not you forgot i

yeah there's there's more to the country there's so much more to digest and so i wanted to see that

so we we didn't just stay in big cities and do the whole tokyo and kiyoto thing we went to

middle nowhere bob's road in the middle of the mountains up in no nowhere'sville no service no

nothing and just got lost we saw the beaches um mountains uh it was so good um we went to hiroshima

we went to fu kashima where they have like the geiger counters on the street and shit where

they had the nuclear disaster and we there's there's so much i mean i can go on about the whole

thing but we spent 18 days and every night we stayed in like an onset so we had like a hot spring

or like a little hot duty was luxury for sure yeah but you know i got my wife with me yeah i

wouldn't enjoy it's supposed to be a vacation not i don't want her going through the hardship

yes i hey we take a bike yeah that's your hard thing so we'll stay in a nice spot every

and it was multi course meals for dinner every night and you know by the end of it i was kind

of tired of traditional japanese breakfast i'll be honest with you so like the last time like

they're like they're giving me all kinds of stuff 27 course thing and i'm like can you make me some

bacon and eggs yeah and it was phenomenal it was so good the bacon and eggs were so good they do

everything so much better than us yeah it's so funny like we try to pack it make it quicker

and we lose the love of the thing whereas japan is in love with the thing kind of like the choppers

in the car scene yeah i don't mean to say they do things better than us but they seem to appreciate

the process more so their products come out better like i went to joyride speed shop that

dude's cool as fuck he's racing over there like it's like we do the like the brl thing

he's doing it on a shovel fxr it's gnarly as hell dude yeah and they're out there he's got

one of the most famous actors and he's a race he's a racer at harleys how cool is that yeah

dude we got we got to see so much stuff and it would be an hour of just explaining all the cool

stuff we went to some winging it we're just cruising down a road right and uh like man i

think i was at a pizza shop i never had japanese pizza let's go check this out they have like

prosciutto and all this kind of stuff on the pizza and i'm driving there's a fucking tank on the

road like a world war two tank i'm like what the hell was that we pull in and it was like a world

war two style museum uh-huh and you go look up on the reviews and like everyone there hates it

because no one wants to be shown in a bad light this guy set up this whole museum and the reviews

are crazy dude and it shows the japanese not in a proud culture but the actual truth it was seeing

what their war was with korea what their war was from the other perspective we all know the

perspective of propaganda america side right yeah how about from the japanese side experiencing

their view you know seeing their propaganda posters and their war pictures and camps and so was it

like completely unedited like so japanese open truth about themselves or about the way it was

just the way it was with from their perspective okay yeah and it doesn't show them in the best

light and a lot of people don't like that but other people appreciate the truth and it was

we were getting kind of looks but it's kind of weird for they don't want foreigners to see them in

that light yeah you know everybody's proud of their stuff just like we're proud of the stuff

so we're like looking at us all weird you know like looking at stuff taking a picture you know

they got the this thing about the guy that he stayed in the in the jungle for like 27 years and

know the war was over yeah and they have some cool stuff man they have like parts of a b 52 that

crashed and they got stuff i mean it's like a junkyard he just found shit from all over the

place just brought it to his property yeah it was super cool and it's just cool i like history

yeah yeah i think going there would be that's definitely a bucket list it's just you should

i don't know i don't know which way i want to experience it like i would love to do on a motorcycle

that should that'd be the best you know but you know i don't know it's just so much to take in i

feel like i would need it's yeah it's jumping in feet first yeah um i would say go sooner rather

than later because they're trying to the way that the the value of the yen versus the dollar

right now it's in our favor and it will be for a while and they're trying to implement like foreign

taxes because of that big differentiator differentiator if i'm saying that right um like

it costs us five dollars to go to their museum or their castle but it costs them 20 you know what

i mean they're like ah we could put more taxes on if you're not if you're not a citizen kind of

thing um which is going to kind of hurt tourism but at the same time they're also doing free domestic

flights so if you fly there and then you can fly to other parts like Sapporo and oh yeah so i think

you should go sooner rather than later yeah um then just jump in feet first i can get you in

contact with people that i've met there and dude they were all like straight culture vibe it's so

good yeah they were um i think everybody who goes to japan says the exact same thing yeah i mean

just so many things that i've been into in my life is kind of you gotta go bro you know like i grew

up into the japanese car culture so it was yeah moon eyes all that stuff yeah i know i really wanted

i just i couldn't make the time work i really wanted to go to like you know see the the the

things you know and we ended up doing our own thing but um set us if you're doing it by yourself

it can be done on the cheaper side you can do it with the trains the public transportation

everything works better yeah you know it's not like here like you get on a bus to like

you just have to understand that you're in their country and loudmouth americans and all that kind

of stuff you just respect what they're yeah i'm not i'm not that extroverted when i'm in places i'm

not not uncomfortable but like you know i'm loud at the buffalo i wings in my hometown yeah i mean

yeah i i'm not saying you would i'm just i'm yeah you know like you know the train everything's quiet

where you have like idiots like you know it's like no this is their place dude you're you're a guest

here respect their stuff i don't know what the limits or the available things are with

my relationship with harley tatwitson but it's like you know you have bikes at all these places

like what if i was so bummed when i saw they sent like people like influencer they were like like

dude i just paid everything out of pocket that would have been awesome to ride a harley there

come on you couldn't hook me up there was like right after i did it too like what the hell man

it would have saved me a bunch of money it would have been cool to do it on harley instead of a

gs but i also was really happy i did the gs because i kind of got my feet wet with the

adventure cell bike and i was like i really like it's a really good bike it's a really good bike

i remember i see why everyone like loves it yeah in 2019 or 2018 when i bought my i was literally

really considering going the gs route other than the new roguelite but then they came out with the

lowers they're like the lower sides that you have and i was like oh that's so sick because

i already had a roguelite i was like i'm kind of over it already um but i was really close to

going the gs and then we had the international motorcycle show they used to still go on and

so they had one here and i tried to sit on a gs and i couldn't touch the ground anywhere

in any kind of way i was like fuck that dude like i'm just i'm the short inseam thing is always a

thing but i'm used to it now yeah now i'm used to it i like low stuff man like i still you know i

i never i would do suspension on my bike but i never jacked them up in the air you know what

i mean i don't even remember i don't know if i ever have but i don't even remember what's like to

be like flat-footed on a motorcycle yeah it's so uncomfortable i'm so used to being uncomfortable

it's so funny i sit side settle on everything you know the mic is fucking jacked up to the moon

it's like four over now yeah it's stupid that's probably why i mean obviously that's makes it

really hard to pick up off the ground if it falls over like and it did in alaska i'm an

idiot yeah i'm i'm literally an idiot now i'm about to do this again yeah but hopefully you'll

find uh the roads are probably more maintained yeah they are it's all paved for the most part i

might get a little bit of gravel somewhere the big thing is the topos the speed bumps yeah in

small towns uh the potholes and fucking livestock that's they don't tell you to not ride at night

because well i mean part of it is you know cartel shit but the main thing is the potholes the

topos and the fucking livestock you'll go around a blind curve right into a cow yeah there's no

fences dude like they all just cruise out and then they go on the road because the road's warm oh so

like yeah don't ride at night that's just maybe like just don't ride at night yeah if everything

feels smooth so that bothers me because i have to cut my time down yeah i can't even break into sun

sunset you know we um we went out last year with the intention of doing el diablo run like devin

myself and two other friends from here and we all kind of like had our own trip and we were

meeting in san diego basically i mean we're gonna do el diablo uh one of our buddies couldn't get

his passport in in time so we and we were having such a good time in san diego we just decided to

stay and stay with the people we were with but and then this year um this is the last year the

el diablo run um i was not gonna do this and then my wife because it's literally on the day

may 15th is me and my wife's 10 year anniversary congratulations yeah thank you i mean that's a

big thing dude so i'm gonna be in mexico partying with the homies i missed easter yeah yeah same

so i had i just wrote it off like i'm not i'm not even gonna attempt to have it and we were talking

about it one day and she was like yeah i don't like because we're gonna do our own like anniversary

thing on the way to born free gotcha so the the hope that everything everything in the life lines

that well i was on a ride to san francisco do some podcasts do some things i need to do then she was

gonna fly into san francisco and then we were gonna go stay up on the coastline and just slow

roll it down to la because she likes going to born free she likes the the event and she's from la

area so like we'll be down there seeing family and shit like that so that's all gonna work out

yeah i think it'd be fun um you know like i've had we've we've road tripped up and done monoray

and things like that but there's some stuff above san francisco that i've i did on my my solo trip

that i really would love to do with her on the bike not so much the roads just the place those

little small towns off on on you know pch essentially because there's really no small

towns on pch south of monoray like you got monoray and san louis abizbo and that's kind of like

nothing in between big sir basically and that's just like a camping tourist kind of town right

but when you go north of san francisco there's like little towns on california the stuff you

see in like 80s and 90s movies exactly like i'm not allowed to do that stuff without my wife

yeah so that's a portion of why this trip got cut down too nice was she's like you can't go there

without me like i want to go see the redwoods i want to go see astoria and up and wait like i

need to go do that yeah you can't do that alone so she got real upset when i was like i'll make it

work so the original trip was going to be like through well if i wasn't doing mexico i always

have a plan b kind of thing but i was gonna like go to california with my boy because he wants to

go to california he's hungry now yeah and then he would fly home my wife would fly in and then i'd

take her to california all the way up to like canada she'd fly back i'd go into canada check out

cool shit up there and um then bomb home you know boring shit home but logistics dude yeah but i'm

not allowed to do that northern stuff either so i it's cool you've done it you know where to go

yeah kind of i was talking earlier with the scouting thing so you're gonna show her a good

time you're gonna host yeah and that's that's kind of what i want to do is just find some unique

places and you know uh see what they're like overnight you know there's usually towns and things

have like the daytime version of it and then the nighttime version so okay you know figure out what

it is it might be cool it might be not but you know it'll be a good time i heard either way

so that's kind of the hope if everything goes well you know we don't get into world war three

or whatever the hell else is going on so well cool man some people's plan is like

the world's gonna end yeah yeah i'm gonna i'm gonna ride i'm gonna be on some bike

trips all the way up until like right all right now like oh they're there i'm keeping an eye on

like what's going on i don't need to start getting back homes to start defend the castle kind of

shit but well cool man i'm glad we were able to do this and i'm already pretty excited about like

getting out and uh doing some travels on myself i haven't it's been a slow last year was pretty

slow for me on the bike so i want to really get those numbers up get back out there and experience

it so you've done some big trips i've like i said i've done it but look before we there's this like

weird thing that like when you start being known for traveling a lot and like you feel like you have

yeah like okay if i don't do it then am i you know i mean it just kind of feels like i i've had

the yeah i've had the same feeling like oh i have to one up myself every time yeah for what expectation

other people's expectations are my own am i doing this trip for them or for me yeah yeah i know what

you mean it's a mental thing like oh i gotta keep my my what i show the world who i am up and it's like

really i mean i really i can't i mean even if i want i mean i want to do all kinds of trips but

like i just can't i can't really afford it you know it's been a different economy for the last

two years than it was you know covid was awesome for everybody as far as like financially for the

most part and the two years following was pretty sick and then now it's kind of like tightening up on

a lot of things you know so but you know still making it yeah i was not expecting fuel to be

like five dollars everywhere i go dude yeah is it bad down in Mexico with the fuel the fuel is

more expensive it is but the peso to us dollars strong so might even out oh that's cool yeah and

then as long as i can see friends and hang out with them and save the two hundred dollars or

hundred and fifty on a hotel i mean because everything's nothing's 40 bucks anymore yeah yeah

so if i can keep doing that it'll be all right yeah i had to everyone's been so cool i had to

book some uh my hotel for uh scott um Louisiana for that rally that i gotta go shoot and not not

a lot of nice hotels down there dude and they're expensive and you look at the reviews and it's

like bedbugs and blah blah blah off dude because i'm like i'm gonna be here four nights so i don't

really want a shitty shitty hotel and i also don't want to spend you know a thousand dollars on

four night stay somewhere you know it's crazy yeah that's insane bring the time in Louisiana yes

yeah yeah maybe i'm wrong alligators rolling right up into that shit i can't tell you how

many people sent me that video when i was doing alaska did you see the one where they the guy like

opens up the tent there's like a bear is like oh no i got sent that like 10 times on the tree yeah

i that's bears scare the fuck out of me dude i've never seen what a bear looks like without hair

yeah i saw something uh once it was like that's probably what they thought sasquatch was

scariest scariest thing on the planet anyway sorry i'm good man you good oh always hell yeah

all right well uh do you post a lot of your like pictures and stuff online so people can

kind of follow along with what you got going on or things like that i know you're not doing it for

the gram but is there an aspect that gets shown through it um like everyone else that kind of

show the the highlights yeah um no one will ever see the experiences of like stopping in the gas

station and somebody praying for you or something just stay the other experiences but i do post the

pictures most of the highlights the stuff that i think people would enjoy um i just try not to get

caught up in doing a making doing it for it yeah you know what i mean i feel like that ruins my

experience and if i get and it's it's hard to fight that urge to be like oh yeah that'll be good

you know yeah i'm i'm really trying to bust my ass this year to be really uh you're doing it for

the art aspect well couldn't yeah i am always trying to do it for the art but like being

consistent with doing the vlog stuff because i do enjoy doing that i've always wanted to show people

kind of like the experiences of what it's out it's like out there doing these things but

it this has been the thing forever it's like do you enjoy the moment or do you stop what you're

doing so you can capture the moment and i'm starting to feel like i'm getting okay at being able to

there's a balance capture it without having to alter anything for the moment so

it's like i'm not just like walking up to you and throwing a camera in your face going

would you think about that like i'm finding ways to do it more naturally so that it feels

a little bit more organic in the moment you know sometimes yeah you don't if you do that you get a

lot more context to put in a video but you got to find a balance of like not ruining the the

moment it's a ton of work you know it's a ton of work people don't appreciate it and like i tried

to do it because i'm like oh yeah maybe this won't be that bad and i tried to like make cool stuff

it's really hard and so when i see other people make things

and i'm like oh you know i have this thought like oh that's it's cringy you're doing it for this

but it's a lot of work dude it's really hard and so the people that are good at it

and the people that you enjoy their videos kind of like the parts yeah and the choppers and you

know well learning the world all that stuff you get an appreciation for it so i'm really enjoying

the youtube stuff and the long-form stuff i personally think social media is going to

implode and i think people are going to be looking for more i don't know if you saw the whole thing

with youtube where they demotinized all the ai shit that's good they're they're way ahead of the

curve dude youtube is going to be the thing and that's why i've been leaning in the youtube more

over the last two years instagram's even pushing it they're like no more short stuff do the carousel

stuff which i didn't know that was the thing until i saw the word somewhere but yeah the instagram thing

is weird man it's like i still have a you know i try not to get too much on it on the podcast a lot

because people are probably tired of me bitching about it a lot of people's relationship with

social media is purely uh as a user of it a lot of times like yes everybody is technically making

some form of content for it but like somewhere along the line of the last 15 years we just

started using this to promote our business because it was free easy and it was very lucrative and

they've been slowly pulling back the ability to connect with the people that chose to follow us

without us having to jump through hoops or pay for oh yeah they changed the thing you gotta like

change the fee and all this kind of stuff well it's like um if they would say hey look you know

you pay us 25 or 100 or 500 a month we'll we'll make sure it's crazy well i mean for us well you

have to do it yeah i guess i would spend it if like if i could post something and the people

that already chose to follow me would see it then yeah i'd do it 100 but because the algorithms

choosing what is going in your feed in my feed based on like what i looked at for more than four

seconds you know i'm saying yeah it really takes it it fucks it up um there is a button where you

can go to following yeah i saw that and i've started to like find people's content that i like whenever

i'm in this mindset yeah you can change there's like an algorithm setting where you can like

more of this less of this yes but it's like it is too much i liked it better when you're like this

is my day i took a picture of this remember how stupid we're making fun of people like this is my

food yeah yeah that was kind of better i i think we're all going back to that right yeah that's

what you were saying people are craving truth and not things just for the other aspect yeah

and i think that'll be better it's like everybody knows that authenticity is what's

going to work on instagram so it feels like a lot of inauthentic people are trying to be authentic

now and it's like oh say that one again yeah yeah it's like you're whatever the algorithm tells you

to be it's like i like photography and i want to just be able to post a picture that i took that i

enjoy and i hope somebody else likes it right i've enjoyed a lot of your pictures thank you and it's

like that's all i want to do like that's what i started doing this instagram app i don't really

want to make videos for instagram like the context that i want to put in a video it just works in a

horizontal format it just works better on youtube something that can be played out it didn't have

to be an hour you know something a 10 minute long video that's something like that to me

i connect with that more you know and when i'm thinking about what i'm creating and putting

out there that's where i want the video side of whatever i make to live not in this instagram kind

of hook you in a second do this do that like i don't i just don't want to play that game and i don't

maybe i'm old i don't know what it is i'm on the exact same page you know uh it just it sucks but

it's gotten i don't know i guess in the mindsets that we've been talking about in this in this podcast

applying that to social media has helped me it's it's allowed me to stop expecting certain things

when i'm if you know you're not going to get this here so leave i spend more time on pinterest now

honestly there's like i've never been on pinterest it's it's another algorithm but it's an algorithm

that seems to really like as you interact with the app and look at things it really puts together

much more interesting thing for myself stuff you're interested not just pushing thirst traps yeah i

can't get it off my phone yeah i don't follow a single like thing of that yeah it it won't go away

like go away yeah yeah go away it's like i checked the the algorithm think there's not no big titty

chicks on there no no stop pushing this dude no no but what happened was because social media the

way it's designed is you give it authorization to listen and everything you look at right whether

you're on instagram or not so you made the joke earlier about mexico and the big booty latinas

right so your phone heard that so it's like oh he wants to see big booty yeah so so it's going

to just keep pushing that and there's other people that thought that you follow that look at that yeah

so it's like okay cool this is what he wants to see we'll just keep putting it towards well they

they are trying to assume something so they take a an amalgamation or how do you say that word yeah

of everybody that's your age and your gender and your demographic oh he's a dude he likes this

we were talking to one of our group chats where it was like it was all every single but every

person's algorithm was like big titty goth chicks yeah and nobody was looking for it yeah it was

like everybody on instagram they were pushing that specifically like ai ones that like what the

fuck so the only reason why i'm not interested the only i am but i'm not i knew about the phone

creeping thing was we were at bike night one night and you were talking about but i'm not searching

for it you were talking about your algorithm being full of like the videos of the chicks with the fake

babies doing like the whole like milking well they yeah they pushed that thing dude all of a sudden

like rogan was talking about it i was like what the fuck is this where did this even come from

and then i remember we had been talking about the night before a bike night i was like

this spine-ass phone yeah so all the things that i like on pinterest i mean i do i so it's not

pushing all that stuff no i mean like i do there's some like uh like you you get on there and you

you know i do like photography of models like but it's not you know what i mean so i have things

that are on that was a tasteful yeah there's a lot of like mid-century modern architecture

there's a lot of design stuff like that's cool there's a lot more things on there that i think that

when i look at it i i get inspired which is what i want to come and happen to me on social

media that's what you want out of it yeah okay and the thing is that like that's how instagram

was for me at first like a lot of the things that i'm into i'm into because i found out it

existed through instagram in the early days yeah i went on there because i was doing cool cars i

wanted to share my cool cars with my friends and other people and i was proud of what i had built

and instagram was a completely different place yeah back then and it's just turned into some

big monster now which you know i do i'm like trying to get in better shape and like you know

it's not all big yeah it's like weightlifting stuff now and you know that that's kind of you

just kind of sit through more shit yeah yeah yeah it's it's like work i don't want to put the work

into the weeds what's that you you end up in the weeds real quick you hit that you hit that yeah

it just search button it's like you're right you're like right there and it just it falls off the

edge yeah like so easily i'm sorry i keep bumping in this there's also the thing of like there's

so much content now i mean youtube in general there's like i think for the first for the if you

are not a youtube person like watching it and you first get on there it could probably be a lot

to sift through and figure out where you want to go i just saw something i don't know how the metric

is but it just said that there's more ai content than real content yeah yeah 100 i had no idea if

that's true or not but i did see that i'm like that's fucking scary yeah the ai stuff is just i

think that i think that the whole world is it's been shoved down everybody's throat it's like

no one's really asking for it there are things that ai you know does like there's things like

chat gpt does that i'm like oh that's helpful yeah you know if it uses a tool yeah as a tool but i

don't need it to create art for me you know and that's the one thing that i think uh is is key

and i i i say this i'm gonna keep saying it if you use ai to make a flyer for your event your

event's not fucking real you know i mean if you can't make the if you can't figure out how to make

a real flyer if it's too much work to put a flyer together or ask somebody else how to do it right

why the fuck if you can't put in any effort why that that shows me everything that you put about

your your business in this thing you don't care enough i mean remember when band posters used

to be sick and they still are in a lot of ways like yeah they'll be a sick poster for the for

you know tool at at the granada theater in dallas right and it's like people collect them so i'm

gonna push i'll push back a little bit on that i can what's annoying is when you look at a flyer

online and you can tell that someone took the minimal amount of effort they just said make me a

bike flyer right if you if you can't even invest the time to because ai can be a very useful tool

if you know how to use it and you actually put some thought into how you want it designed and

they will alter it you can have like different versions to make it better where you want it to

be but if you're not gonna do the effort on that it just is the same if it looks like everyone

else's flyer yours will always be shit yeah i i mean when i was doing band shit we i paid like a

bunch of money to an artist and it was like it was like work yeah and he appreciated it i

appreciated his work now that image that i paid like 400 bucks for back in the day

done you know i don't even know if it would it probably be good i have no idea

but yeah i know what you mean it's it's taken the love of the game out of it

it's like gratification of just that's what i was trying to say earlier the people the

instant gratification of like flying somewhere getting the end of it and then like coming home

well it's so used to it now it's it's proving that those services are in need because people

still want to have flyers and have all this stuff made and done right but what it's also doing is

it's made i mean maybe it's also like okay well the people that create those kind of things need to

be more available more in a spot to be able to help people create flyers and things like that or

whatever like i guess if you want to put on an event and like where do i even figure out how to

get a flyer made like that's a question right it is but that's one of those problems that i think

that like man like i want to do this event i want to have a cool flyer i need to figure out who i

want to have do this or see what it's going to cost me or do or whatever this is going to be a weird

question have you seen ai art and motorcycle painting yet um is that is that a thing that you

might be worried about in the future i'm not hey about it i want this paint job can you do this

paint job and it's an ai creative i i i know you wouldn't do it what i'm saying is do you have a

worry or do you think you're gonna see this i think that uh painting industry because art is

kind of like people are worried about it well i mean what what i see going on right now is i i

see more and more of these sticker in rat places getting more prevalent on motorcycles um and

to be fair like i get it like you know not everyone can afford an eight thousand dollar paint job yeah

and and that's fine you know and that's it's not supposed to be affordable for everybody you know

what i mean there's a reason why certain things cost more than other things and if everybody could

afford it it wouldn't be fucking cool yeah that's it loses you know its uniqueness um speciality

there and then also like there is a guy out there that's doing it for three grand that's

trying to get his name out there and he's trying to get his skills up and there's there's a place

for all that i was at that point once uh sometimes i feel like i'm still at that point but you know

there is that growth aspect of it but i i honestly think that like the ai stuff for maybe the art

side of our motorcycle thing i don't see it really being uh it might help people figure out design

stuff but the hand's still going to have to do all the work right so what i wouldn't want

if you take me and sprinkle for instance both very skilled in a lot and pretty much the same

field but we have a different style right so if you go to him and you tell him your ideas you're

going to get his style of paint work and if you come to me and you tell me your ideas you're going

to get my style of your vision right and that's what you're paying for that's what you're looking

it's not like the same paint job that's just everywhere like with the tattoo artist exactly

and so i think that um if you're allowing it's like there used to be guys and they still might do it

that would like design paint jobs like someone have a rendering done you know in the car world

getting the rendering done yeah so there's guys that would like render out a custom paint job and

then pay them i've actually yeah done you do like airbrush and stuff well yeah like i used to sketch

out bike paint jobs for people and sell them and then somebody else would do the paint job no way

yeah i did it quite a bit for a while and then that was more of the big wool stuff days like

people were doing stuff like that but yeah that you know because somebody would be like well i

want to paint job and my painter can do the work but he just doesn't have he does not design stuff

so we would design the paint job and then said person would paint it right that doesn't really

happen anymore as much i feel like uh you know the performance bag of world is definitely it

there's there's some good paint jobs out there and there's a lot of them that just like

how many colors can we make yeah it's just it hasn't i don't know i'm not talking shit about

it's its own unique thing um it just feels like it i don't know it people they don't want to justify

paying for a high quality paint job but then you see the difference between like a lucky strike doing

something or or polin or like some of these guys that are really good versus like the guy that's

doing a version of all their paint jobs or our paint jobs that doesn't have his own style that's

just trying to and that's what you see a lot of these bikes that you know they'll spend all the

money they got the all the swing arms and all the all the horsepower in the world and they got this

janky ass paint job on their bike and it just devalues the entire project yeah they just throw

a bunch of colors on it so that it will stand out thought out you know but it doesn't it doesn't

flow it doesn't make sense and yeah i don't know i was just curious if ai was if it was if you had

seen it creeping in anyway in any way it's just it the whole thing is like it would it help you

no i don't see how i mean i was just curious like you're like hey i'm staring at this i don't know

maybe i'm just here i don't know well ai is just it it's all pulling from something that already

exists yeah so that's the other thing it's already out there yeah so it may never make anything new

yeah and that's there between you know uh general intelligence and super intelligence or whatever

the hell it is that they say agi or agi yeah so like right now there there is it's not creating

anything that doesn't already exist it's good point there's no taste making it's just regurgitating

yeah that's a good point so there there shouldn't be any concern it's just a really really good

search is what it is so it's it's doing what the other painter was you were saying no i mean just

enjoying from all the other paint jobs or whatever yeah but i don't even i mean i've never asked it

to like design a paint job for me so i don't know how that would look because there's but in in i

kind of want to try now when i was curious what i'm curious what it would do but like hey show me

what this would you know i mean i've used it for like i i've used it for like like a logo

like direction ideas okay you know what i mean uh show me fast live garage in a mid-century modern

atomic era style logo i did the same thing you know what i mean i sent kyle one for a t-shirt

idea i was like can you do forever dad for lines that sell one like father's day or some

shit and i sent them these ai logos he's like stop sending me ai garbage it's ai slop i'm like i'm

just fucking with you i thought it was a cool idea if i just say it but this is kind of like a picture

you know and it was that atomic 50s i thought that was kind of cool so that's kind of that's

something i've i've done for like to get an idea of direction but i also do that with a pinterest

you know what i mean because there's a lot of great design stuff on there and i can find inspiration

like this current logo on the back of this is just a recreation of a classic vans logo

like the vans shoes logo it's from the 70s vans all time you know so you know

it's just inspired by i think and it's a logo that's like or the way it's done with the checker

like it's just common it's it's not groundbreaking but it's clean it's simple um you know we wanted

to do a shirt that like you could uh you know the first thought that wasn't just black shirts

yeah that's the first thing i said like i don't i can't pick they're all black

yeah i need a different one that's why i like the clean moto one because it's like pink and teal

and then like steve's got the head the purple one uh huh yeah so just having different stuff it's

kind of the gold cool well cool man i think we're like over time no idea what time we're at two

seventeen six well cool chris i appreciate i'm glad we finally got to do this thanks for having

me by dude yeah and uh it's pretty awesome those trips man i get pretty i want to do the alaska

thing but i don't know how much i want i want to do a part of alaska i don't know if i want to do the

only the top though don't yeah i don't just it sucks dude you know just you should go explore

alaska and i didn't even see all i'm going back to sea because there's so much other things yeah um

but there's so much to see in the uconn even without alaska like stopping at leard hot springs

and just stopping and just taking a soak like that's where i saw a bear i walked right up on a baby

bear dude oh fuck yeah it was so cool like there's you know when you ask me like what do you put

online i'm like that you can't like explain that to somebody yeah walking up on a baby bear while

walking to a hot spring you know what i mean and so you can't just put six hundred hours of content

you have to make a highlight of something you know well life is yeah it's all highlights man

it really is so so when people like compare themselves it's like what do they say a comparison

is the thief of joy kind of thing like don't feel bad because you don't have this or didn't do that

or didn't take the like roll your own lane don't compare yourself to other people because what

they're doing is posting all the best of their shit and sometimes it's only for that appreciation

yeah so don't be so hard on yourself yeah show the gratitude for what you have it took me a long

time to figure that out it was like stop being so hard on myself that's it that's what this

motorcycle time this helmet time is for is having the conversations with yourself you know that's why

you never see one of the a motorcycle and a therapist's office you know what i mean so all

all right i appreciate it really appreciate you guys listen to that i hope you enjoyed it

and i want to thank chris again he had been on the road all day before he sat down in the studio

with us to do this podcast so thank you chris for sharing all this previous road trips and current

road trip stuff very inspired ready to get out there and do stuff myself guys we uh we dropped

the online store we had some t-shirts on there um i don't know how much are left i didn't have it

checked the inventory but uh if you go to foreverthefastlife.com you can get you a t-shirt from us

we appreciate it to help support everything we got going on um really looking forward to dropping

some more merch hats things like that here in the near future we're still in the beginning stages of

getting that website and that online store rocking and rolling so uh yeah i appreciate you guys listening

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