Sexy Car Bro

I'm Alex, he's Jim, and this is the Charging Status EV Podcast.

Hi Jim.

I'm all right mate, how are you?

Not too bad, not too bad.

We should address the elephant in the room, actually he's in a different room.

We've got Paul with us today, hello Paul, you cheeky, maybe a few months ago.

No, not related to your weight, it was the size of your trunk, so yeah, I'll take that.

Hello guys, you all right?

Yeah, not too bad.

It's nice to be back, nice to have a full house as well, nice to be sandwiched like

the rose between two thorns that I am on the screen here.

Alex is unwell, we should mention that.

Yeah, a little bit.

Are you having to apply an ointment?

Not quite that bad, this long story short, I've got the Lotus Amare in and we took

a weekend break to Scotland, the day I got to Scotland in bed with the flu, I had

to drive back a few days later under the influence of a cold with the flu, so it's not

been great.

So you didn't get to do anything while you were there?

Not really, no, no.

Did you go to a break?

Oh well, I did, yeah, yeah, good, yeah, thank you for your concern.

How is the car?

Oh, I've still got it, I've still got it for another week, it's, it's, how did

I move in mysterious ways?

Yeah, anyway, I've got it for two weeks, it's a very special car, it's very good, I sent

you a clip of my delivery driver, he found the car quite good.

So it's a sick car bro?

Yeah, sick car bro, really sick.

Sick car, it was funny because he was delivering Alex a dishwasher, like a desktop dishwasher

kind of thing.

Yeah, yeah.

And he was basically rolling it across the drive, threw it and then flipped it over a

bit.

Yeah, you should know it's, you could insert that clip and just blur his face or something.

I might do, yeah, but yeah, sorry, it's a, it's a, it's a very, very good car.

It's not massively efficient, but it's a 650 horsepower Ford or saloon, so it's not going

to be the most efficient of cars, but it does charge very quickly, so there is that, so.

Yeah, it's good.

And you said there was a slow charging in, in some circumstance, I can't quite remember.

Yeah, if you use Tesla chargers, it will cap at 79 kilowatt.

Is that on every Tesla charger?

That's on every Tesla char, every 400 volt charger.

Oh, okay.

Yep.

That's.

So whichever, yeah, whichever, whatever DC to DC converter they've got going on with

that car, it's, it's, it's obviously not up to snuff.

It's a bit unfortunate.

And so.

Yeah.

But yeah.

What have you been driving, Paul?

Well, at the moment on the drive, I've got a KGM action, which is, which is the

same one we had, Alex.

Exactly.

The launch.

Yeah.

And that's funny.

The same.

Yeah.

The same number plate.

Wow.

There you go.

It's an interesting car.

It's not bad.

Not as bad as some that I've had.

I thought it was all right to be fair.

I was disappointed by the both versions of the Tourette's.

Yeah.

I thought the axiom was actually quite a lot better, despite it being the same

platform.

Do you know what?

I drove the Musso EV truck.

Oh yeah.

Yeah.

That was really, really good, actually.

That was pretty nice.

And it's almost got the same interior as this car.

So it's actually quite nicely specced.

Quite nice inside.

Again, that's on the same platform, isn't it?

The same sort of EV platform of the electric Torres and the electric

axiom, I think.

There is an electric axiom.

No, no.

It's just petrol.

Oh, is it?

Yeah.

There's no options either, which is quite nice.

You just buy the car.

Yeah.

It happens more and more often now, though, doesn't it?

Yeah.

I kind of like it, to be honest, because you just know what you can get.

And it's quite nice.

It happens a lot with the Chinese.

Yeah.

I think for us when we're talking about it, it's quite nice not to be able to

not to have to remember all the different specs and things.

It's like, this is the car.

If you buy it, this is what you'll get.

And it's nice and simple.

So I do like that.

Although, I remember them like this.

Cheek sheet.

Yeah.

I just stand and read in my videos.

I'm just so fed up with forgetting things and getting things wrong that I

just stand and read now.

Yeah.

Really exciting for the audience.

Oh, Granddad Jim, it's like, hold on a second.

I just need to put my glasses on.

You know, I do.

Yeah, but such is life, you know, but one day it will all end thanks to the

sweet relief of death.

Until then I'll wear me very focals and read from a read from a sheet.

So that's the podcast title.

Not all bad.

The relief of death.

Yeah.

Wow.

Yeah.

Well, you've had the spicy GV 60, haven't you?

The new one with the pretend gears?

Yes.

Yeah.

At the same time as Alex had a GV 60, actually, I think you had the pure

and I had the performance.

So I had the spicy one with all the gears and the noise and the drift

mode and all that malarkey.

And that was brilliant.

That was a very, very nice car.

But actually in terms of performance EVs, I had the smart, the

braver smart hashtag five last week.

And that was amazing.

That's 0 to 60 in 3.8 seconds and 600 odd horsepower.

That's also got fake engine noises and fake gear changes and all that as

well.

That looks great as well.

I think it's like the same tube vibe somehow or something.

Yeah, I suppose.

But you know, it's cool.

It's got so much use.

You've got the camping mode in it, which I think is really brilliant.

So you don't even need a 10 box because you can put it, all the

front seats go down as well as the back seats.

And you've got screens across the front because you've got the

screen in the passenger side as well so you can watch movies

and stuff.

But also it can play white noise into the cabin at night.

Right.

Internal back off all the lights and keep it at the constant

temperature and everything and make it perfect for a night.

Because it's got off road mode and all that sort of jazz as well as

the Brabus break your neck mode.

Nice.

So it's great.

Yeah.

I really love that car actually.

I really like that.

I'd love to get one of those in for review actually, but it seems

to be one of those companies where the VRZ mail doesn't

work.

And of course there was so many brand guidelines because

you're not allowed to say you open the boot by fingering the A

hole.

You're not allowed to say that, which is a shame.

But this you've got it from a dealership, didn't you?

I did.

Yeah.

They had band guidelines and you're not allowed to say the

words Mercedes Benz whilst you're filming a smart.

I would have called it the Mercedes Benz smart.

Yeah.

You're not allowed to even though I pick it up from a

Mercedes dealership and they're in the same building, but

they have to be very, very separate and they're trying to

completely separate the brands now.

Yeah.

But I think smart is now part of a G.

Lee.

Yeah.

It is.

So smart was always it was weird when it was like designed

by swatch and mechanicals by Mercedes and it always

like the original the original ones I'm talking about.

Yeah.

And I always felt like the design part of it was

incredibly well done.

And the mechanical part of it was incredibly badly done.

And you think, well, as I'm watching, not cars.

But Mercedes should be able to do the mechanical bit quite

well.

Yeah.

They definitely got these sorted and sort of aligning

themselves as a sort of almost luxury EV brand actually

works really well.

I think it's great.

Yeah.

That car's 50 grand, pretty much on the nose.

And that's the top, top spec, everything.

Like Alex had one a while ago.

Did you have a three?

Hashtag three.

Yeah.

And we were saying like, you've never seen them in the

wild.

No, no.

But they look great.

I think they're really good.

Yeah.

The tech's brilliant.

Really cool.

Like the numbers all make sense.

Yeah.

And you'd think they'd be trying to push them out

to people to do reviews as much as possible.

But to be fair, I'd like to do a hashtag seven

based on that five platform with an extra couple

of points to go back because there's more than

enough space for it.

And I think that would be a real game changer at

that kind of price point as well.

Because you'd be competing with the EV nine

and stuff, but you'd have, it'd be a bit more,

you know, smart design and stuff.

I think that would be quite cool.

It's fun to hear.

Yeah.

I think they could, and I think they could

probably get it in under the 60 grand mark

if they're doing that Brabus five at 50.

They've got the hashtag one or two coming out

at some point as well.

They've actually confirmed the city car

variants.

So that'd be good.

Yeah.

Absolutely.

Yeah.

I must admit, I'm all for it.

I like, I think they, you know, it's a brand

everybody knows she's always helpful.

Yeah.

What are you doing?

What have you been driving?

So was it yesterday?

Day before I was at the Citroen C five

aircross launch, which I just took the

electric one out.

So I've done my video with the electric one.

I was thinking of the podcast and how

sometimes we drive everything apart from

electric cars.

So yeah, had that.

When's this going to go out?

Well, just watch the video and you can

see what I think about it.

There's an embargo on it and I can't

say what I think of it.

The driving impressions anyway.

What I can tell you is that the

interior is a million miles better than

the old one.

And I know the old one very well because

I had one.

And it's much like the pricing seems

very sensible for a Stellantis car and

they made quite a big deal about the

fact that they're looking at fair

pricing rather than putting out really

high prices and then having to

discount heavily, which obviously Vauxhall

has done constantly in recent years.

36 grand for a quarter and then

they knock it down to 20.

And if you saw my new car

price video the other day, you'll see

the Jeep Grand Cherokee is like the

thumbnail picture.

£88,000 and they've knocked

35 off at the dealership.

And they're kind of saying it's

possibly not the best idea to do

that.

Sometimes people think they're getting

a bargain but sometimes people think

they're taking the Michael.

So the pricing seems quite good.

And the EV variants are like

two grand more than the petrol.

So it's not

price parity but it's

not far off.

So that was good.

And I went to the,

well you were there as well

actually Alex the BYD

Seal 6.

Oh yes.

Feels like ages ago now.

Yeah it does doesn't it? What was it like a week ago?

Yeah.

And

that's a hybrid isn't it?

Yes plug-in hybrids, no EV

at the moment. I don't think it

I'm seeing one of those tomorrow actually.

Oh yeah.

Yeah at the dealership they're doing a launch

day at the dealership so they've

invited me along.

Today I've got the Nissan Aria

Nismo turning up.

So yeah

spend a week with that which will be

interesting. Very nice.

Yeah.

What else have you had in Alex apart from

the Lotus that you've had for two weeks?

And they told me they're

unavailable.

Well of course this isn't a big deal. Do you know what?

Because Alex has got it.

Do you know what? I can't remember

so I have to look at my calendar.

So

I suppose if we did mention on the podcast

the only car I've had recently is the

Tesla Model Y which we spoke about on

but that's about it really.

So Paul's got the Model 3

haven't you? Model 3 next week.

Oh sweet.

That's only recently been revised as well

hasn't it?

Would the indicator stop been put back

in or something?

Oh yes that's like a mind of business. Back in now?

Yeah I believe so.

I wonder if this one will have it though

the fleet one it might be

might be an older one but

who knows maybe.

Either way

it'll be the first time I've driven a Tesla.

Right.

Interesting.

That'll be an interesting experience

either way.

I won't colour

your

potential thoughts with my

opinions but I'll

be interested to hear what you think of it.

We all know your opinion because you've got one on the drive.

I've got one on the

road.

It's a tenner a month though.

Yeah to be fair you'd have

pretty much anything in a tenner on the road.

Did I get it because I actually

love it or

did the two things come together?

I don't know I think when I watched your video

you were telling me how I think when I watched your video

before I actually met you.

Yeah I like it a lot.

No I think it's

really good and

really well sorted and really nice

chassis.

Yeah I like pretty much everything

about that car apart from

the length of the seat base because I've got

knackered knees

and it really

kills me on long journeys

but I think that might be more

related to me than the car

and it might just be some driven

like other saloons for quite a long

time. Not kind of

low saloons

and it

I don't know if that's

me or the car so

it'll be interesting actually because I'm sure

I've got something booked in next year

where I thought ah I can test

a similar seat

in position.

If so it means I'm going to have to be like

an SUV person in the future

and that's going to hurt me more than

the knee pain. Although you're pretty well served

because pretty much every car has an SUV now.

Yeah I know

Yeah

That's one of the good things about having

the Aria this week is

I've got to go down to like deepest Kent

on Monday

for a car launch

and last time I did it

it was terrible

like I bought

with a limp for about a week afterwards so

Are you allowed to tell us what's in deepest

Kent? What you're going to see?

Cherry Tigo 9

Oh I've got that as well on Monday

Oh

Are you filming on Monday?

Yeah

So I'm filming on Tuesday

I'm just staying over Monday night

I think Britt is doing Monday as well

isn't he?

I don't know not sure

Yeah I think I'm pretty sure he is

I saw him yesterday

and I think

he's doing Monday as well

sorry podcast listeners

we're just having a

private chat

in the middle of this

Yeah so I think everyone's there Monday

and I'm doing Tuesday

Not everyone

They say the best

or the worst

Yeah

Motability Paul

Tell us about it

I was quite keen to have a chat about

EVs and Motability

but also

there has been some breaking news

hasn't there in the last week or so

about the Motability Scheme

that I thought would be interesting to have

just a quick chat about

So for those that don't know the Motability Scheme

is a scheme where you can

swap

part of your disability

allowance

for effectively a lease payment

on a car

which is really handy

for those that need to get about

and need a car on the drive that's reliable

so

you can see the benefits of the scheme

in helping people to obtain a car

that's going to be new

because it's better to maintain etc

and more reliable

and

it's always been the case that

the better car you want the more you pay up front

so basically

you can have a

car

and pay nothing up front

or you can pay a little bit

and get something slightly better

or something slightly faster

or something slightly more

if you aspire to have a particular type of car

you can pay a bit more

just like any other lease agreement really

as Jim will tell us

what you pay

up front

will

that

and that's basically the difference

now the big news

coming out of the government

and the Chancellor's Budget

was that

certain brands have been removed

from the scheme

and I feel like this is a bit of a political move

and obviously we don't want to get political

but Mercedes, BMW

Audi

Alfa Romeo

and Lexus have all been removed from the scheme

so

I first of all wanted to sort of

get your thoughts on that without being political

but

I thought that was

in my personal view

maybe I'll go first and say that my personal view

was that I don't think that's

particularly fair on those brands

because the cars they're putting out

at those price points

aren't necessarily better than some of the other cars

that are available on there

it's just a badge

I think

and then you've got brands like

you can't have a BMW 1 series but you can have

a

new mini

countryman

which is mostly the same

internals

you're just getting a mini badge

rather than a BMW badge

and minis are very premium

brand nowadays

exactly you can get a Polestar and a Volvo

but you can't get

an Audi

or a BMW

and I just don't think it's quite right

and I think the way

it was

made out

like

you can't have Mercedes drivers

on motability

I just felt that was a little bit unfair

because these people also

they're paying out the money up front

to obtain those

higher value cars if you like

I think the biggest thing that doesn't

get mentioned about motability

is that it's not means tested

so you

don't get motability because you're on the

rock and roll

you get motability

because of a disability

yeah

and as you said

you get a certain amount of money

and you can either pocket that money

to help you with

things you may need or you can put it

towards a car and surely it's your business

I think what they need

to do is either say well it's now means

tested and if you don't need

the money you don't get it which would

cause mayhem

or

if you want

a car you can have one of these

and it costs 30 quid a month

and that's the motability

scheme or you've got a choice

and if you've got a choice it should be the same

choice for everyone like

if you're getting a payment because you've got one

leg

why does it matter if you decide

you're going to use that

in an MGZS

or an Audi Q7

yeah

because the cost of the government

is the same

the rest of the cost is yours

so

like

no matter what car you pick

the same amount of money is being paid

to the leasing company

effectively every single

week

if they wanted to do something

about the cost of

motability

this has done nothing to the cost of the scheme

but perhaps they'd have been better off

looking at who qualifies for it

and who doesn't and who qualifies

for the PIP and who doesn't

yeah

and because

certainly I'm sure everyone knows of cases

where people have taken

the piss and

got benefits they weren't entitled to

and then the flip side of that

people that are in desperate need

of help that get absolutely nothing

yeah

definitely yeah it's shocking

I mean my dad

in his last sort of months

he was on

oxygen 24 hours a day

and he couldn't

get any assistance going

anywhere and he was still driving around

and he I mean he wasn't told

not to he actually asked

and they said no you can still drive

no way he should have been

so I would try and take him to things when I could

but we asked for a disabled badge

for him and they said he couldn't have one

and I mean he would walk

maybe six feet

and then have to stop for

like a minute

and then walk another six feet

I mean he had COPD

his lungs were

basically becoming useless

and

absolutely nothing for that

and then I also know

of cases where people have absolutely

taken the Michael

and become sort of professionally

unemployed and

go for everything they can possibly go for

I think you're always going to have

some people that game the system aren't you

yeah totally yeah

but why they take choice away from

people and it's actually

it's cost neutral to the government

the other thing that's been removed

are coupes

why?

I genuinely think

the only reason that's been done

is because it's

a poster story

it's about how it looks

and it's controversial isn't it

because the people

that are complaining the loudest

are saying things like well why should he get

a free BMW or why should he get a free Audi

you know why should he be

driving a sports car

yeah but these are people

that if you ask them is it

means tested or not they'd probably all say yes

yeah and it's not

you can be a millionaire and get a motability car

exactly

there was one thing

yeah there was one thing that you're saying

the cost of

the government is negligible

the motability scheme covers insurance

so I'm just wondering if

they've

analysed the figures

and found that these premium

brands are costing them more in insurance

there might be that aspect to it

I'm not sure though

it's like a fleet insurance

yeah it's like a fleet insurance though isn't it

for everybody

that won't

be an issue at all

okay

by the way I said that very

confidently but

those of you who don't know

I spent 25 years

I understand that

and I think with the insurance

part like there are

multiple cars you can't have

under 25

and stuff like that so they have

there are certain levels where they say

you can't have that and then they still

put black boxes on cars if they feel

they have to

so the insurance company

that they deal with does have some

say in that who gets which cars

and things as well so

I don't know I think that's probably mitigated

by those circumstances

and they'll effectively be

paying the cost per unit and

because not

so important

yeah definitely

the other

piece of news from the changes that

happened last month now

is

that the

ambition is for 50% of all

vehicles

which are leased through the scheme to be

British built in 10 years time

I think that's something we can all get

on mind because that's good manufacturing

it encourages

brands who are

doing a lot of business through

mobility to set up some kind of

plant or

some kind of assembly

situation here in the UK

and it's

sort of an encouragement rather than

a

check up the

ambitious

but kind of good for our economy

of

see what they could do with that

is ramp up a bit more and say

if you want to be part of the scheme you have

to have a manufacturing base in the UK

yeah

and I mean that would restrict

choice even further but

so much of the new car market

is driven by motability

or you have to have at least this in the UK

or that in the UK

so many employees

in the UK that are on

that side like R&D

or

something

some part of the engineering or manufacturing

we need engineers again

don't we

I think you can imagine someone like Terry

putting up an assembly plant in the UK

yeah

you could absolutely imagine that because then they'd have

three, four brands

whatever

bringing out cars

putting them together

and in that sweet spot on the motability

scheme

you could imagine them putting the money in to do something like that

I quizzed them about that

a lot when I was in China

and

and some quite senior bots as well

and they were very keen

not to say no

to that idea but they also

didn't say yes

they were giving

what you will find often is manufacturers

if you ask them that sort of question

you'll get a

well we would have to look at the wider picture

and it might be that European

blah blah blah

and with Terry it was

where we sell significant volumes of vehicles

we manufacture vehicles

and I said but you're selling

quite good volumes in the UK now

so if that were to continue the trajectory

and

and said nothing is

off the table

and then it just repeated

if we sell significant

volumes of cars

and I thought

that's

we've got all these old issues

car plants and stuff so

I know the equipment

will need to be changed out and a lot of them

all of them

but you've got like the building

to start off with and

production lines sort of

set up so

you sort of think like if

there's a kind of thing where

some investment from

inducements from the government

could actually create a lot of jobs

and building things again

that'd be nice

I think that's actually a really good

aspirational kind of

change actually because that's

benefit to everybody here

if we've got a

better car building economy in the UK

so I think that's

kind of a good change

yeah

yeah 100%

cool and away from the news I was going to

suggest

we look at

certain categories

within motability

and I'll tell you some cars

that are available in those categories

and then we can have a little chat about which ones we think

probably would be the better buy

based on our

experience what we've seen and that sort of thing

I think that might be quite useful

something like a fun game

yeah yeah so first of all

cars with...

he just appeared

for this game I've picked EVs only

obviously

so first of all

I've got a category with zero

or zero advanced payment

so you can have any addition of the Ford Puma

a Citroen EC3

or EC3 Aircross

Kia Nero

Vauxhall Frontera

or a Dacia Spring

Alex

probably the Ford Puma I've not driven it

but I've heard very very good things about it

and it's storage space

and that sort of stuff

the other ones

Kia Nero is getting on a bit now

in terms of age

and the springs are a bit limited

so what about you Jim?

for me it'd be the Nero

or the

EC3 Aircross I think

yeah

like the Puma

it's got a lot going for it

it's got big boot

but it's like the interior quality

for me

and yeah

I don't know

I've driven a Puma

and I felt it was a bit

meh

it's like okay

I can see why they're going to sell millions of these

it's okay

and that was kind of it

I didn't think it was particularly exciting in any way

what would you go for

from that group then

I quite like the Nero

yeah

I think it's a really good car

quite a useful

family car I suppose

that or

or the C3 Aircross again

because actually it's like driving your Sofa

they're so comfy

and I know it's Citroen

so its build quality isn't

as great as perhaps

the Kia would be

but I quite liked it

I've driven the

the non-Aircross version

and I thought do you know what

it's kind of quirky and it's kind of cool

but the bigger one is definitely a better car

yeah I think with

like Kia and Hyundai though

every car is solid

not always the most spectacular

things but there's very little

wrong with them

yeah agreed

well what's the next round

okay next

so these are all the cars between

a pound

and a thousand pounds

advanced payment

ready

Hyundai Insta

Volkswagen ID3

Fiat Grand Panda

Grand Day Panda

Grand

Panda

Peugeot 2008

the Hyundai Kona

and the Suzuki Evertara

Alex

I think instinctively the Kona

I drove one last year

it's a very very solid car

as you guys said with the Nero

there's very little wrong with it

yeah

Insta's really good but it's a bit

I'm not sure if we're picking cars

that are suitable for family use

or just the ones we just like

in these categories it's just

what you would pick, what your favourite is

out of those

okay so

for me like the best one

to drive is going to be the Insta

because I absolutely love it

I think it's phenomenal

I'd probably get the ID3

I need a bit more range

and a bit more space

a bit more passenger room and stuff

but the best driver

I think is the Insta

because I think it's exceptional

it is, it's good

so for me I

actually quite like the Grand Panda

I think it's funky

I'm not sat in one yet

so I might completely change my mind when I actually sit in one

but just from looking at the pictures

and other people's videos

I think they're really funky

I think that's a great looking car

but otherwise

it would be between the Kona

and Insta depending on what I needed

because I think the Insta, I've driven that

it was loads of fun

it was really funky inside

I really like the design of it

how it felt when you're in it

as well as driving

and the Kona again is just

solid

it's weird the Insta

I mean it's a really small car

but it almost feels like you're in a van

because the windscreen pushed so far back

yeah

I think you've got that thing as well

where like the door cards

in cars now are so thick

because they've got massive door bins

handles and all that

whereas it's almost van like

in terms of there's nothing on the door

to give you that more internal space

but when you're in it

and you sit very upright again like a van

as well so it's

it's a nice car to drive

thanks for that Dale Winton

I've got one more category for you

oh great

one more

and this is best electric

7 seater on the scheme

oh there aren't too many

no

so you've got a choice between

the

Peugeot E-Rifter

and the

Citroen E-Berlingo

which are both between

14999

sorry

1499 and

19999

the Vauxhall Combo Life

which I think is pretty much the same van

all these rounds are the same

2699

then you've got the Peugeot

E-5000 and 8

at

5299 pounds

up front payment

and the Ford Tourneo Custom

at

around 7000

up front payment

the only proper cars

the 5000 and 8

the others are

car derived vans

and the 5000 and 8

has got decent range

loader space

and the others are going to have

poor range and charge slowly

so I think that's

that's quite

easy one

I like the look

of the 5000 and 8 as well

I think it's quite a smart looking car

do you know what I think

French cars had a long period

where they were the most boring looking

they always used to be really quirky

didn't they and then they had this period

I don't know

2000's and it's just so dull

all of them and I think they're back in their groove now

they're like

the French manufacturers are

producing some

interesting looking cars again

like Peugeot have produced some great looking things

in the last few years

I think the 408 is a beautiful looking car

yeah

and yeah there is some

nice stuff obviously like we got the Renault 5

and

I even quite like the Renault 4

and it's a very different

kind of thing

but you know when

they're daring to be quirky again

and sort of leaning into the fact that

yeah we're French and we're different

and I think we're seeing people do retro

right

unlike Ford

I think we're seeing

Renault especially

and now Fiat doing

retro in a really good way

because they're actually bringing fun

playful type

cars that have a real homage to their

originals

and I like that a lot

I do like that

yeah we need that special gulf

to come out

Mark II inspired

I know they've showed off the concept

haven't they and it's definitely

getting there

I saw people

are off to Barcelona today Alex

and

the new

ID

where's it

ID Cross is it?

oh the ID one

one or two

obviously

we're not there

well this is a green screen I'm on a plane obviously

but that would be an interesting one

I really look forward to seeing that

I wish they'd given it a midge

more range

but

that could be a very interesting car

well the first drives are out on the IX3 as well

aren't they?

oh yeah they are

and I think that is a very cool car

didn't go to that either

no

I'm hoping to go on the UK one

I do hope so because I'm really excited

about that car

that was one at Munich

YouTube guys go into that room

where they had like inflated the interior

no I did

but I did manage to blag myself a look

around the actual car on the stand

yep

I made a video on that

I actually got to sit in it and have a play

in the car which was great

and it felt really nice inside

it did feel like a really cool car

it does doesn't it

what they've done with the interior

is very cool

I like the design

I mean a lot of people are saying they hate it

and I know people always seem to hate

any change to BMW

but I feel like it evolves really nicely

and when they do put

something brave out there in different

I think hats off

I think it's great that they've gone from concept to

actually making it

and it is still looking like that

very similar yeah

I think that's brilliant it's not been sort of dumbed down by the

suits in the room

do you know what

I love to see a car

where I don't like the design

like because it's so wild

and crazy

because that happens so little

now usually you don't like it

because it's just so bland

and

I don't know we need to get

the new Fiat

what was it the

Multipla

why would anyone

ever design that

my brother bought one of that

and he called it one of those

and he called it the ugly bus

that's brilliant

I'll tell you what in terms of brave design

there's that new Dacia

that little Dacia city car

kind of concept

the hipster

yeah that's it

what is it

it's called the hipster

it's got like fabric door handles

do you have to change your glasses for that Jim

I'll definitely

make it to production

that's the first time the word hipster's

been typed into Jim's computer

yeah right

all right that looks

a bit like a K car doesn't it

it does yeah very much so

yeah

that's quite interesting

I'm not upset at that

I like that

it'll never get built but I like it

I've just seen

the picture next to humans

and it's tiny

isn't it yeah it is little

geez

but I won a top gear award last week

hmm all right

I wonder how much that costs

actually

it's award season at the moment

I've been

like on the other side of

award season in a different

industry and

should we do some charging

status awards

taking with a pinch of salt

we should do an awards night

worst guest

ah

thanks guys

we're going to call it the

Paul Gaughan Award

Paul

the top gear

when they did the golden cock

we should do like a

Greg's Award for the best roadside

snack or something

that's true yeah

maybe we could record

something and put it out a new year

and off the

kind of awards

that would be a good one

yeah I did a video

a few years ago and I think people

were just so awarded out by that time

because they do them all

at the same time

it's got to be quite ridiculous

it's got to be something different isn't it

it's held as well like when you

obviously the magazines in that have

at least driven someone there has driven

everything

where even if

this year I drive 100 cars

I haven't driven 250

no

but it would be interesting

there are some awards I'd give out

the best 7-seater I've driven

Ionic 9

that was great

nice

I think it's possible

but one thing that is

interesting this week

depending on when this goes out is

kind of all the world's colliding

here

the Formula E season

starts this weekend in Sao Paulo

so that's the electric racing series

like the electric

version of Formula 1 effectively

yeah yeah

and if you like motorsport

and Paul's channel is one you need to subscribe to

all those weekly motorsport

news

and yeah

not many would do it in that

and so go and

check out Paul's YouTube channel

I wasn't destined for a plug to be found

I was just sort of colliding out

this is an EV championship

it's a nice natural place

something I find really

interesting actually is the tech in it

because they have a pit boost now

where you can charge the car

in a pit stop so just in a few seconds

they plug the car in

and they just give it

many hundreds of volts of electricity

and it just gives it

a massive boost in terms of power

so I think that is very

very cool technology and there's like a big

pioneering

super fast charging kind of

technology that they've introduced

probably trickle down to the road eventually

yeah

it's all manufacturers that should be very

relevant

Citroen have come back this year

their Stellantis team

and Porsche

and obviously Porsche are working really hard

on wireless charging and things as well aren't they

there's quite a lot of technology

coming out of Formula E

and what they learn in motorsport as well

that Porsche wireless charging

75 kilowatts

that's impressive

I mean I saw it

it's all wireless charging in China but it was

7 kilowatt

which I thought that was

good enough but 75 kilowatt

I think we saw it in Munich didn't we

they had the

the Cayenne was it

yeah I look great

I mean imagine you put that on your drive

it

you wouldn't need to would you I suppose

it's the thing on your drive

the slow charging is enough

you have them on service stations and things

mmm

my wish for public charges

is still that you could just choose your rate

yeah

so you can say I'm going to be an hour

and you know make sure it's charged

in an hour

and so that you could go and do your thing

because charging too quickly

is a problem

oh I did see in America

in good old America they have

actually I'm sure I'm doubting myself now

there was somewhere where they're testing

a charging lane

so it's not wireless induction charging

but it's in a whole lane

in the motorway so you can just pull over

into that lane as you're driving along there

it's charging your batteries

I did a thing in Holland like several years ago

I think they did like

13 mile stretch of motorway

with inductive charging

I think it was in Holland

and that was quite a long time ago

but

yeah that would

be unbelievable but

you have to wonder how

they would bill it and

the cost to install that

well you know they can catch you

if you go in a bus lane so I'd imagine

they'd see the same technology

yeah

you'd get a letter from the old councilman

they'd say you're in the charging lane

that's 50 quid thank you

they always take one for the pot hole

though couldn't they

so you know

I don't know if they're tasting

sticking a camera up different to

digging up like 10 miles of road

yeah

I saw

Citroen have actually paid

to fill pot holes in Gateshead for a week

they're so fed up

by the state of the roads

that Citroen actually paid

for a team to go and fill pot holes for a week

wow

I mean Citroen must have felt pretty incensed

because normally you can't fill pot holes

in Citroens because they just glide

yeah

well right

I think that's it

I think so

thank you so much for joining us

Paul and talking us through the motability

scheme and having a little game there

it was quite good fun

where can people find you if they want to find out more about you

and what you do

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