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The Singapore GP race review dives deep into the intense first-lap clash between McLaren teammates Lando Norris and Oscar Piastri, highlighting the shift from McLaren's usual 'nice' team dynamics to a more aggressive championship fight. The hosts discuss Max Verstappen's points gain keeping his title hopes alive, George Russell's surprising dominant win for Mercedes, and Ferrari's struggles with reliability and pace. They critique the TV coverage for missing key battles and express skepticism about the upcoming Singapore sprint race. The episode also covers fan questions, predictions, and the evolving McLaren intra-team rivalry as the season nears its climax.
Topics:
mclaren teammate clash
lando norris vs oscar piastri
max verstappen championship hunt
george russell mercedes win
ferrari reliability issues
tv coverage criticism
singapore sprint skepticism
race strategy and overtaking
formula one team dynamics
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Hello, everybody, and welcome back to the P1 Podcast with Matt and Tommy.
Singapore is done.
It's dusted.
It was...
I was gonna say interesting.
It was a race.
It was a race.
It was a long race.
To be fair, your heart rate was probably higher than what it has been
for a lot of the races this year,
because your boy max was stabbed.
And of course, very much in the only bit of thick of things.
I was about to say that in the thick of things,
but the only bit that we really saw that was anything remotely interesting.
But that's Singapore for you.
At least we've got a sprint next year.
Hey.
Oh my God.
Yeah, Singapore is just such a difficult track to overtake on 2025.
Very much feels like, you know, it's a qualifying season
and then first into the first corner
unless it's certain other tracks where you can overtake.
So fingers crossed for Austin.
But not the best race, but still plenty of talking points,
which is always good for us, of course.
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Tom Bellingham, your most memorable moment, please.
It's the Muck incident, the McLaren incident on lap one.
Finally, a little bit of spice
adding to the championship.
We have said this the whole time, haven't we,
about McLaren playing far too nice.
And look, Landau's move,
it's getting a lot of heat online, as always.
It should do, it's a championship, yeah.
And it should do, it's a championship fight.
And basically, my take on this is it's on the edge.
It's a little bit, you know, he's racing hard.
He's racing hard.
I can't sit here and after basically criticizing Landau
for many, many times over his whole career, really,
about him being on the wrong end of every kind of incident
and him being far too nice in wheel-to-wheel moments
and not really going for it.
Finally, we saw a bit of bite from Landau Norris,
who knows that his only opportunity
is realistically going to be on that first lap.
And he saw an opportunity on his teammate
who he was going for the world championship against.
I watched that and was like,
well, absolutely finally we're seeing this,
because yeah, it's on the edge, a little bit naughty,
but it's racing that you want to see drivers
want the world championship.
And I'm personally really glad to see that moment
and not just because I'm maxed us up and fan
and hoping it's going to completely blow over
between the two of them.
Yeah, come on.
The realistic thing here is that you're happy
that Landau got through on us because it's more points
than Max has gained on the championship leader.
But no, in terms of the incident itself,
if we're talking about just what happened,
not any other race, but what happened there
and then it is a racing incident hands down.
I don't think there's any real calls
for five second penalties to be given out for that.
It is the definition of racing with the fact
that yeah, Landau went in a little bit hot into turn two.
Is it turn two or turn three technically?
Turn three, yeah.
It's the left hand, it's turn two.
It looks like turn two, but it goes in a little bit deep,
touches Max ever so slightly.
Max didn't even have a clue by the way
that Landau had made contact with his rear.
He just thought he maybe had a bit of oversteer
and then that of course then led to Landau
sort of washing slightly wide, hitting Oscar quite hard.
It was a pretty big love tap,
maybe not a lot of love between the two after this weekend.
And then Oscar of course lost out there.
That is what we want to see in terms of racing.
We want to see them pushing hard
and yes sometimes we'll bang it's for the championship
and it was a bit of spice is exactly what we want to see
from like as a fan, as a spectator to see that.
However, on additionally to this of course,
Oscar was very aggrieved by this
because his lovely Papyrus teammate
has just hit his car and got through.
But this is a separate conversation.
That's a separate conversation, yeah, 100%.
Racing incident, but I also absolutely understand
why Oscar's annoyed.
Oscar going, but I thought we played for like fair.
Yeah, we've been playing fair the whole time.
We're meant to because that whole Papyrus rules
is you race your teammate hard
but you don't make contact.
So his understanding of that incident is well,
he's made contact and he's basically barged me out of the way
and it actually looks much worse.
When you see the whole incident,
this is why I think it's a racing incident.
It looks worse from Oscar's onboard
so I can understand why he's even more angry in the car
because he can't see that he's almost gone,
that Lando's almost gone into the back of Max Verstappen
and that's why he's kind of avoided that and run wide.
But yeah, you're right, it's completely different incident.
You can see it that I need to give props to Lando
because I've been saying forever
and even in that last race,
why isn't he going for moves?
He's trying to win the world championship.
We had a question, I'm sure it was last week going,
does Lando even want to win this world championship?
And we've gone, yeah, like he doesn't seem to want to
and then today I can't then now criticize him
for basically getting his elbows out
and trying to wrestle the position at the start
which we know what Singapore's like.
It's the only opportunity to go for a move.
So yeah, it was great to see.
Yeah, so this was always going to happen.
This papaya rules, but then on top of that,
this fairness rule thing that we said was going to backfire
immediately when they started to introduce that
and this is exactly what's happened
because Oscar is well within his rights
to question what on earth is fair now
if that is deemed fine.
If wheelbanging is fine, then you're basically just back to,
okay, we're just going to race now then like that.
It's such a very interesting that Zach
because Zach Brown has basically openly said
it's hard racing.
So now we go into these kind of final races
that we've basically got a level of this is fair.
You can bang wheels.
Does not help the allegations of that McLaren want Lando
to win the world championship
between when Oscars on the wrong end
of this particular incident.
But yeah, six races to go.
I firmly believe that we may well have seen
the end of Nicie, Nicie McLaren question
from P1 Patriot member, Zingy 13.
Are the gloves finally off at McLaren?
This is what we have been asking for all season.
Will we see them come to blows in the upcoming races?
I firmly believe so that was six races out now
from the end of the championship.
Lando is within a race.
We're now 22 points behind his teammate
and Lando has to do what we saw on lap one.
Every single race if he's behind his teammate
he needs to get his elbows out
and he needs to show that he wants to win
this world championship
and not accept McLaren, Nicie, Nicie rules
or I'll just give up three points or six points
or seven points or whatever it is to Oscar.
Oscar on the other side is going to think
after this or screw this
I'm not going to be letting my teammate
throw at Monza because he had a slow pit stop
which I still reflecting that
just the most ridiculous thing
after watching F1 for 25, 30 years.
I think the driver's gloves are off at McLaren
but McLaren will be like,
no, no, no, we're still playing fair.
Happy happy we won the constructors
by the rules we've made within the team
but I think this is where we see perhaps
and I think is absolutely fair
for the drivers and especially Oscar Piatru
after the situation to go.
We'll see about that one.
Yeah, absolutely.
We've the constructors championship has been won now
it is a ridiculous kind of thing to even suggest
they were never going to win it
it wasn't like last year where it was a little bit closer
and they were dropping points here
and you know the gap closed
they're always going to win it
it was just a matter of you know
when it was going to happen
and it's been done now.
So I do I was going to say
I hope that McLaren now just let them
leave them to it and let them race
but I think crucially here
Zach Brown's comments after that
and saying what Lando did is just hard racing
that's it like this game on now
of what you're allowed to do
and you know as we've seen
and as we mentioned at the start of this show
about Singapore what what a stinker
but so much of this season has been about turn one
you know Max Verstappen at Imola
making that move on on Piatru
Piatru on Max Verstappen at Saudi
so many of these races have been won
by turn one or the first
because it is the best opportunity
to overtake with these cars that are so difficult
so difficult to pass now with dirty air and stuff
so this this does open
you know a very kind of
drivers are surely going to be aggressive now
Oscar can now use this to for a way to be like
oh yeah okay I'll be aggressive now
and now this is the precedent that set of like
this is the limit that's okay so
very nice indeed love to see it
finally we said I think last last week
sorry last last race we kind of
no sorry sorry I think his mom's actually
where we were basically talking about
we're maybe just going to have to reset our brains
and think well this is just going to be the McLaren way
that it is going to be holding hands
and skipping to the constructors championship
and that's the way McLaren are going to play it
but I think something's changed there
and I also think it's even more dangerous to go down
this route of setting precedents
because you're always going to upset a driver
and today Oscar was the one upset
just letting them race
I feel is a safer bet like obviously got max now
63 points behind Oscar Piazza in the championship
trying to manage these two drivers
that both don't have a world championship under their belt
I just feel like it's going to get worse
if they genuinely are on the same piece of tarmac
for the next six races
surely it's safer to just go guys we trust you
I know you're both two number one drivers
you might come together
but until then just go be free
for me if there was if there was a multiple world champion
and a super aggressive driver that that's kind of
slowly getting into the mix
and a few and quite a lot of points behind but gaining
wouldn't that be fun
we'll talk about him later anyway
yeah we certainly will
next question people on page remember glush
is Oscar in the right
about the lap one incident
Norris seemed to go in just a tiny bit too hot
towards the back of max
which made him take evasive action
yes these two things can coexist of
I think it's a racing incident
and Landau's got every right to barge
his championship rival out the way
but the reason Oscar asked the question
is because McLaren have really pushed this whole
we've got to race fair
you're not allowed to make contact with your teammate
you're not allowed to do this
we're always going to reset positions
and slow pit stops
you need to let someone back through
and you know there's even a little bit of it today
where they were
that they basically won the championship now
and that and they were going to win the championship
and that and they were still asking questions of like
oh we might lose a place to Leclerc here on an undercut
so should we do this
I know they want to bag as many points as possible
for that championship
and and it's all about that's the way they play
and it's all about the team
but I do hope they just just let them just get on with it
now and we don't need to see this but
Oscar has every right to ask that question
I think just because of how McLaren have been playing it
and that the way they've
basically like their whole papaya rules thing
that we've seen for the last couple of seasons
he's got every right to kind of question it
I think to go back very quickly to you saying
Lando has every right to barge his teammate out the way
I think that probably we should put a word of unintentionally
unintentionally barge his teammate
because it was an unintentional race in a race
yeah I think just we all bang is not saying
I'm a massive southern fan but not that much
yeah exactly
because it was racing Lando racing is racing to hit Oscar
he of course it was clumsy and it was
his responsibility to not make that contact
but it wasn't intentional I'm slamming my teammate out the way
basically yeah yeah exactly
so I back to the thing Oscar was absolutely right
because of everything that McLaren have said
he was right to question it
he was right to feel aggrieved
had that been anyone else other than his teammate
probably would again still had a comment over the radio
but I think he himself would know that that would not be
a penalty and I think that when he's able to review it
all and see exactly what happened
because of course he's commenting from the cockpit
where his teammate has hit him
he can't see the max incident as well
the full context and perhaps even though to be fair
he did say you know oh so he was avoiding Max
and then crashing into me how is that fair
so perhaps he doesn't know the full context
but I wonder he was very PR friendly in the interview
Oscar knows exactly not to get a headline
but yeah I wonder what he really truly thinks
maybe we'll just go ask Mark Webber
can he come on the podcast please
next question Gavin Curley 90
if Lando had been on the receiving end of the first corner
would McLaren have called for Oscar to give back the position
I know so many people have like yeah
without a shadow of a doubt
Zach Brown would have made the call as CEO
to get Lando back through
I'm not as confident to say that
I don't know
it's this is a if but maybe different universe
you know Lando is not being favored in every way
in the sense of like you think of the pit stops that he's had
he's not you know they're not sabotaging Oscar in the pit lane
of course Oscar did have a bad pit stop this race
but Lando has had his fair share of bad fortune in the pit lane
so it's a dangerous question
because it goes down the route of I don't know
what I need to see is another very similar incident
but Lando is the one that's not is on the receiving end of that
and then we can truly weigh in
but I think it's hard to say
but I would like to think no
well I saw slightly tongue-in-cheek messages about how
because Oscar had a slow pit stop
and then finished the amount of his slow pit stop
less than that behind Lando
then it's like oh well what's what's fair then and stuff like that
look I I think with with Lando
there's no doubt in my mind that Zach Brown
would prefer Lando to win the championship
agreed
but I don't think McLaren are basically going to particularly
as Oscar is ahead and Max Verstappen is kind of lurking
in the background that they're going to completely throw
Oscars championship away because you know
as you mentioned the slight there's been moments this year
where you can kind of go oh that that's in favor of Lando
you know the the Monza incident or there's been moments
where like they've taught pastry to back off when he's
when he's trying to race Lando and things like that
or like cool cool off and things like that
but then equally Lando's had about four or five slow pit stops
in a row and that doesn't fit the narrative does it say
and Lando helped Oscar in Baku if I'm not mistaken as well
I was told to to help him obviously last year I think that
last year of course yeah yeah so there are moments where
it's not like it's you know team Lando and that's
no I didn't think I didn't think it is like you know
I'm not going to sit here and pretend that I think
that it's completely equal because it's quite clear that
that Lando is very much Zack's boy isn't he of like you know
and that you do get that in teams but McLaren at the end
of the day are allowing both of their drivers a shot
of the world championship they've have their papaya rules
which you know in theory lets them race and and you know
it's not if they wanted Lando to win the world championship
they could have easily just throw thrown Oscars championship
down the toilet and just really back Lando right from the
start based on you know what happened last year or something
but they haven't they've continued to let them race
and we we now wait and see and you know how it continues
yeah because as well McLaren don't want to lose well I
don't think they do want to lose a talent in Oscar
Piastri to another team they've got two incredibly
strong drivers that are doing very very well yes they're
not probably the finished package but they are they
delivered a constructors championship by an absolute
landslides they've matched Red Bulls constructors you
know amount of races left record from 2023 that's no mean
feat so it yeah it's it's a difficult one I know for a
fact there'll be tons of comments saying absolutely
Lando is the number one golden child at McLaren but it's
a very dangerous thing for McLaren to actively try and
sabotage Oscar and I think it would be very stupid
for a team to do that particularly as he's the one
with the points advantage right yeah because there is
a six races to go Max could absolutely beat Lando in
the championship there is that there is a chance there
that that could happen so McLaren cannot go this year
without a world champion even if it'd be the most
embarrassing fumble of all time and they've probably
arguably done it already McLaren so they don't want to
do it again 2007 for context okay all right not last
year everybody no no no no that was maybe Tommy you have
when you're dropping law you have to say which year not
everyone has watched it since 2007 you absolute boomer
next question P1 Patriot member Blackson should Norris
have taken more risk to get past Verstappen or is he
measuring the risk versus reward in rather chipping
away than going for glory the latter I can't criticize
Lando one bit for not going for a move on Max Verstappen
if he goes for it and it goes wrong basically Oscar
Piastri has won the world championship because Oscar
moves into second place and it's a DNF for both Max
and Lando so I totally understand why he didn't go
for that move is risk versus reward of course it would
have been great for him to know for his championship
to get even more points on Oscar Piastri but you
know I can criticize him for Baku and not doing it
on Yuki Senoda and Liam Lawson a track where you
can overtake and it showed overtaking was possible
even though it was difficult this track so so so hard
to overtake that you have to be so sure or you have
to have Isaac had jar with half an engine or Lewis
Hamilton on soft tires or no breaks to be able
to overtake that's what we saw in that race so it
was risk versus reward and I think you did the
right thing just not going for something stupid
personally yeah and I think there will be people
that go okay how can you say you're fine with
this one but then criticize him for Baku but
I feel as you say two very different scenarios
Baku was difficult and he was stuck in a DRS train
but like there were a lot more opportunities I think
than than what we saw in Singapore also he's trying
to overtake the guy that literally said I'll
remember this one for him if that's playing
in his mind then Max is doing exactly what Max
does and he's gaining advantages off the track
as well as as well as on but I I think that
Lando understood his situation he was ahead
of Oscar which he would have taken every day of
the week after qualifying and I think it was
the correct decision he got very close at one
point didn't he he went to the outside of Max
and there was no no chance of getting through
he had to pray for Max's tires to fall off
even more of course he had the offset of around
six seven laps on those hards but yeah it
was the right decision Lando gains on Oscar
marginally and he can go to the next race
in Austin hoping for a little bit more
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P1 Petri member has K Oscar
Villanark incoming so final
question on the McLaren
shenanigans yeah I think so
I and maybe this is just because
I want to see entertainment
I want to I don't want to see
the nice stuff I want to see them
you know just just literally
both just be going at it for
the world championship that
that's all I want and this is
what I've always ever seen in
Formula One when two drivers
have gone up against each other
is there's no team intervention
it's just I see a gap
let's go for it let's see
what happens so for me I think
Oscar as much as he was very
PR friendly in the interviews
he will understand now
that will banging is acceptable
so we can take that one
lovely hard racing take that
and and hopefully it will
it will make for better
entertainment for everyone
watching as well I hope so
yeah I think we'll see the
Villanark in the sense that
yeah he now knows that
will banging is okay and his
team team principal is
confusing because that brown
acts like he's team principal
he's not team boss CEO
you know as basically said
that's that's racing
hard racing so that's allowed
now but I you know
we're as we're recording
we're yet to see if Oscar
had any damage from it
I'd be amazed if it was
but I think you had
opportunities that
they would have been able to
pass land and just because
it's so difficult to pass
but I really expected
Oscar to to catch up and
potentially be on the back
of land at the end of that
that race and maybe that
could have been opportunity
to put him under a bit of
pressure and you know
give one give one back
on land based on
on what happened because
Max was really really
struggling at the end there
and Oscar just looked a
little bit and off
the pace this weekend
and look I do think
we can say about the villain
knock and I don't think
it's absolute panic
stations for Oscar
Piastri that's not
what I'm saying at all
but if we go back
to the Dutch Grand Prix
when Oscar Piastri won
we were talking about
is the championship
over as Oscar Piastri won
a brilliantly won
the Dutch Grand Prix
very very comfortably
you know Landau had
the failure
which knocked him
huge chunk of points
down and we're kind
of thinking right
this is Oscar's championship
to win and since then
you know didn't
had the the incident
in Monza with with Landau
where they of course
swapped over over that
but Oscar was slower
in that race
then we got to Azerbaijan
and you know had the worst
race he could possibly
have ever had there
and then you go into Singapore
and he's not even
on the podium so
you've got to say
his form is not
you know it's not great
and I don't think
it's like panic stations
he's crumbling but
I was one of these people
that thought
as we get into the later
stages Oscar Piastri's
mentality and him being
like the Iceman is going to
be the thing that wins him
the world's championship
but actually we saw him
you know
not on the pace
and seemingly very frustrated
and you know constant
radio messages
seemingly very very
unhappy with everything
we talk about potential
damage it was Landau
that had the visible damage
if we haven't actually
mentioned that
you know he was the one
that was running the
end plate damage
and still was able to
be flying
at some point during that race
although we know the end plates
as George Russell checked
in the cool down room
that as soon as you
your own plates
hang in our flight
Ferrari you suddenly go quicker
he's like yeah
but better flex
I think like they said
whether he actually
went faster
I'm not sure
but
yeah so
I don't
highly doubt Oscar
would have got damage
from that
it was wheel
wheel banging
yeah he was just
he was just slow
in comparison to Landau
of course
but he still
picked up a good amount
of points
and didn't lose much
to Landau
so
for him
it's
it's a sort of
a building of
confidence to some degree
after Baku
he wasn't miles off
he's still out
qualified Landau
so I don't think
it's all terrible
it's not panic stations
but it's definitely
it's not
it's not the best form
at the moment
absolutely not
but he still leads
the championship
by a healthy margin
now we go to
my most memorable moment
goodness gracious
it's taken a while
but we've got here
and mine of course
is my boy
Max Verstappen
gaining points
again
in the championship
and it does need to be
spoken about
Max
very
you know
writing off his chances
after it's
saying
he needed to win
and this that
and the other
you know
he
is not going to say
in the media
I'm going to win
the championship
because it is
a very
massive
outside chance
but
he gained points
around Singapore
which we said
leading up to Singapore
if he gains points
if he beats the McLarens
then his championship on
we did not expect
to George Russell
to just
dominate the entire weekend
yeah
Mercedes just winning
out of nowhere
in the hottest race
for the current
you know
George said himself that
it was one of the races
that he would have put
himself as
least likely
to win
and he's gone
and done it
it is
very much
rolling of the dice
for Mercedes
of
when they
when they're quick
and when they're not
but
that's a factor
in the next six races
themselves
Ferrari
if they just
stop disintegrating
and
you know
perhaps
it's
it's just
that these moments
can change things
and getting
a George Russell
coming out of nowhere
or two for our result
or
whoever it might be
suddenly the points
swings
point swings
can be more
but they also
can be less
if you don't win the race
so Max only gained
six points on
Piastri
three points on
on Landau
but I think
you would have taken this
coming into
Singapore
Tommy
yeah
knowing that
you know
that
the points
gap has come down
not come down
enough
to even start
to get excited
I don't think
but
63 points
not impossible
it's not
I'm
I'm so conflicted
because
I've basically
the way
this podcast has gone
since
basically
Monza
where he won
and it was kind of
spoken about
of like
Oh
Max
championship
and it's like
no
absolutely not
it's just
an outlier
Red Bull are really good
at these kind of circuits
he's not
20 seconds
clear
then he goes
and wins
back
here
and Oscar
Piastri doesn't
finish
and I said
like
when we get to Singapore
if he beats them
there
we'll know
and it will
feel a bit
more like
championship
back on
that being said
I share
his thoughts
of like
he needed to win
and there's
there's talk
there of
you know
fine margins
and qualifying
if he'd lead
could he have won
the race
very difficult
to pass
not to take
anything away
from George
will speak about him
later and was
you know
absolutely
brilliant
but he did
gain on McLaren
at what should have been
his worst track
really
from
from the ones
left
and McLaren
it's
he would
he'd never admit this
but
if you said
what would you prefer
max winning
and having the points
or
the McLaren's
having a bit
of an incident
it just
puts that
little bit
more pressure
on the fact
that they're
going to start
potentially maybe
squabbling
a little bit
and racing
each other
harder
that is also
what max
needs
because
if he's going to do
a
Kimmie Reichen
in
in 2007
where the
the McLaren's
were fighting
and Kimmie
came out
came out of
nowhere
and won the
the championship
and we've
seen this
before
way back
in the
80s
as well
with Williams
that
you need
the teammates
to
to fight
because
max
realistically
I know
we have this
this kind
of scenario
although I guess
that's gone now
because he didn't
win the Singapore
Grand Prix
but
he's going to
really need
a
a Piastri
DNF
or at least
finishing
seventh
or eighth
again
and
because
he's not going to
win
all the
remaining
races
he needs
some
good fortune
as well
I think
he's got
a chance
and
at
winning
a few
of those
remaining
races
you look
at
what
what's left
Texas
is very
strong at
Mexico
is
one of
his best circuits
into
Lagos
is one of his best
circuits
Vegas
back on
Vegas
maybe not
now
Charlotte
but
but
but
McLaren is
is
very
you know
traditionally
weak around there
cat eyes
McLaren
all day
long
and Abu Dhabi
is
a bit of a
mixed bag
so
just
I guess
I like a
broke a
record
we need to
wait
till
till
we wait
till the end
of the season
till
and then
we'll know
if
Max can
win
that's
what you're
saying
I will
yeah
I will say
that
it is
ideal
timing
having a bit of
this
contact
not
fisticuffs
but
absolutely
something
but
but it's
just
put this
whole
nice
y
nicey
stuff
into
turmoil
and
I agree
I think
Max
needs an
Oscar
Piastry
Stinker
because as I said
earlier
I think
Max
can beat
Lando
in the
championship
if he
mounts
a massive
charge
in the next
six races
so
he
doesn't
so
we've got
six
left
and
sprints
with you
so
yeah
so
so
so Max
will
single race
between now
and the other
season
he can have
Lando finish
second
in all of them
and he'll
beat Lando
in the championship
so he
would only
need
it
like
this
but he wouldn't be
Oscar
so yeah
he needs
Oscar
to have
the Stinker
so I know
where
I know we're
dreaming
but this
is
this
deserves
its time
because
if Max
had fallen back
to 75
points behind
this could be
put in the bin
and we can
never speak
about it
ever again
and I can
put my
Ferrari
top back on
but
this
yeah
there is a chance
it's weird
how it's like
it's ramped up
the fact that
he can do it
more
because
he's beaten
the McLarens
at a track
he
realistically
shouldn't have
beaten them
I think a lot
of that
anyway
is
is mainly
because
you can't
overtake
there
because
clearly
the McLarens
were
were faster
or at least
Lando
was a lot
faster
and
would have passed him
at maybe
any other
traditional
circuit
but
he didn't
grab that
kind of
big hall
of
he kind of
kind of needs
you know
I'm worried about
two things here
well
I'm not worried
about the
the
the claim
that I made of
get
getting a
tattoo
if he
if he wins
yes
just
ever
so
everybody
knows
in case
you weren't
tuning into
the watch
along
Tommy
has agreed
that
he will
get
a
tattoo
to celebrate
Max's
2025
world championship
win
should
he win
so that
that
is
I'm here for it
what I am
what I am
concerned
your left
ask check right
yes
and no one will ever
see it
and
so the
I might
sorry
Kevin
so stream
presenting
I've lost
a trailer
though
now
you're red
can't remember
what I'm saying
something about
Max being
great
it was
it was
oh my
God
I literally can't remember
points
Singapore
it was
all I can think of
is now
an arse
tattoo
well
how it was
brought up
was the fact
that you know
Max winning
the championship
so
honestly
it's just
completely you've
lost it
it's completely
good for a member
later
yeah
yeah
you'll come back
to it
but let's go
to a question
from
fresh
pie
F one
did Max
do enough
today
to stay
in the championship
hunt
I've remembered
what it was
it was
it was
it was
the fact
that
I am slightly concerned
now
that those
points
lost in
Spain
with this moment
of madness
could
potentially
now
be
the thing that
that we do
look back on
and go
oh
if only
he had
or even
if you know
that incident
of like
you know
because
if he does
I still think
the championship
is a huge
stretch
but
it'd be
54
behind
yeah
yeah
and that's
that's
just over
two wins
which is
not
out
the
question
this is such a
ridiculous answer
but it's kind of
like a yes
and no
as
as we've
mentioned
earlier
like
yes
he did
ish
yeah
yes
he did
because he beat
the McLaren
that track
he shouldn't have
but he didn't
gain enough
that he
he
needs to
but then
you can
argue
that
where
he's going
to gain
on
McLaren
big points
this would have been
the track
that you
kind of
thought
he might
almost
like
damage limitation
and he
only wants to lose
maybe three
or four
or five
to
to McLaren
and he's
it's just about
kind of
staying
in there
so
yeah
he's gained
he's
he's taken
points out
again
you know
to think
he was
a hundred and
four points
behind
at the summer break
and
madness
you know
no one
no one
was he
was even
giving this
a
a prayer
so
yeah
yeah
if we were being
realistic
coming into
Singapore
it was either
I mean
this kind of
feels like
the maximum
from a realistic perspective
max could have
done
and anything else
was championship
over
in my head
a massive
10-point swing
at Singapore
wasn't
on the cards
at least
when we came into this
we did not
think that was
going to happen
so
I would say
yes
in the fact
that we are
still talking
about it
and he is still
within
a very outside chance
of doing
something crazy
but that is
all it still is
you know
Tommy's not
swinging his t-shirt
around his head
at the moment
I just said t-shirt
but
it might well
happen
might well
happen after Austin
if both Oscar
and Lando collide
I
then it's 38 points
with five to go
Oh my God
Yeah
it is
it is one of these
I think
I think it's
basically
it's a situation
where if it's
any other driver
we're probably
not even talking
about it
even being possible
No
but it's max
we need to
it's fun
it's fun
exciting
and I'm
you know
we're formal one
fans
and it's nice
to think
about the hypothetical
even if
he doesn't do it
it's very unlikely
that he
he
does
it's that
disruptor
of making
McLaren's
sweat a bit more
and feeling like
they can't just
have their
easy championship
where they
McLaren
can control
control it
and make it
you know
do what
do what they want
because
they can't
McLaren
can't afford
to
do too much
where they're
swapping positions
and
and
backing off too much
it's not like a situation
where it's like
you know
like Mercedes
years ago
where they're
700 points
clear or whatever
this is
this is
you know
the championship
is there
to be one
if McLaren
do start messing around
and potentially have
like a
a DNF
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Let's head
to a chat
about George Russell
for sure
because I think
he absolutely
deserves it
George Russell
dominated
this weekend
qualifying
was
as we said
yesterday
two laps
that were
phenomenal
of course
it won't go down
is
in the history books
for
you know
certain laps
in
in F1 history
that you just
look back on
and go
wow
that was
like
but I don't think
it was far away
like George
was
brilliant yesterday
and then today
just completely
unfazed
this is a track
where he has
crashed
in the last few laps
when he had
a chance
to win
and
still showed
the mental strength
of just
getting over that
moving on
he's a man
that definitely
struggles with heat
as well
I can
absolutely
feel the bloke
like he is
is British
he's a hot man
through and through
he's a hot man
he's British
through and through
and
you could tell
he was absolutely
finished
at the end of that one
but still kept his
you know
his composure
didn't make any mistakes
and
could have
at times
Max was within
three seconds
in that second stint
but
he just
kept it
within the white lines
and
kept out of the barriers
and
you really could not
have asked
any more of George
and
you kind of forget
that he crashed
in Fp1
as well
Yeah it was
20th
and
Fp2
wasn't he
I think
and
yeah
we were basically
talking about
how Mercedes
aren't really anywhere
and
Fernando Alonso could
challenge
maybe
for a really good
points finish
because
Mercedes are nowhere
and George ends up
winning the race
and
you know
this isn't to take
anything away from
him
but
he won
he won it in qualifying
which is much of the case
that we see
in Fp1
but
it's not to take
anything away from him
because
my God
what a lap
what a
two laps
that he did
were absolutely brilliant
and he put himself
in that position
and again
I'll
I'll say
yesterday
that's
for me
that's not
a
it's
it's not a situation
where you go
old Mercedes
were comfortably
the best car
it's not like
a Vegas
where you thought
oh
Mercedes
come out and they're
where
they're comfortably
the best
that's George Russell
putting a brilliant
qualifying lap
when he had
an opportunity
to do it
and
this is what
great drivers
do
when
there's something
we
we have
applauded
Max Verstappen
for
Lewis Hamilton
for in the past
that
when the car
isn't quite there
they still
take that opportunity
and yes
the
better than it has been
in in previous races
but
yeah
he won the race
brilliantly
and that's what
the great drivers
do
and I'll
say it again
that we did
yesterday
that
give him a championship
winning car
and
yeah
I think
he'll
he'll win a championship
for sure
and sign his
blooming contract
Mercedes
give him what he wants
for crying out loud
he's a brilliant
driver
asking
probably for
some commitment
from the team
and
just got to give it to him
you just
really do
like what more
does he
need to
do
he's
beaten
Kimmy
Antonelli
comprehensively
with Kimmy's
massive
hype into the season
and
yeah
I think that
George
really does deserve
his props
for that one
next question
P1Petra member
Rosie
Rangetsu
what on earth
are they
thinking
giving Singapore
a sprint
next year
between the difficulty
overtaking
around the circuit
and the dirty air
surely
it will be a stinker
I can categorically say
so
so confidently
it won't be worth
watching
it will straight
if they're
well
if
yeah
no just
yeah
just listen
to the podcast
afterwards
honestly
it
what is there
to bring
with a Singapore
sprint
it'll be lap
one
turn
one
and it's been a reminder
obviously
after watching
this Grand Prix
like
with a throwing
a dart
at a board
of like
who's going to
get the sprint
this year
oh
it's not
Brazil
it's Singapore
like
also
we never
a briefcase
not having a sprint
by the way
we did not
we did not pop off
about Brazil
not having a sprint
it's absolutely
ridiculous
yeah
maybe it's a briefcase
but Singapore
sprint next year
disaster
waiting to happen
I
honestly
just not happy about it
to be honest with you
it's going to be
hotter as well as next
it'll be in the
in the daytime
or yeah
just
everything about it
sounds horrendous
but here we are
maybe
next year
all the cars
will be able to
overtake
it'd be the best race
of the year
but I don't think
it will be
no
it won't
because
we've had
you know
the previous regulations
Singapore's always
been a really
really difficult
track to overtake at
even in previous
regulations
we've seen
how hard it is to pass
this is before
we've had
arguably one of the
you know
the worst years
for dirty air
and
an overtaking
that we've seen
in a long time
and yet
yeah
Singapore
even before that
still didn't
deliver
and
yeah
it's just
it's just a terrible
I
I genuinely
I don't think
it's even unfair
to say
that other than
Monaco
I think it's
literally the worst
sprint
you could possibly
pick
and if anything
Monaco sprint
would at least
be kind of silly
but
yeah
be like
overly silly
whereas this
one just
feels like a
waste of a
sprint
to be honest
100%
right
let's head to
another question
people on page
remember
funky guy
why did the
TV direction
miss Lewis
versus
Fernando
they need
to get it
together
because
they're too busy
zooming in
on the driver's
girlfriends
then
watching the racing
and
I'm so bored of having
this conversation
all the time
about
how
the TV directors
like
any kind of
wheel knowledge
but
when
everyone can see
I can
I can forgive them
for certain moments
where
we were maybe missing
Hamilton's fight back
we saw it in
the mini box
but we kind of
wanted to
see it full-screen
by understand
why they were
showing
the Stappan and
Lando
because if they'd
missed that move
it would have been really
embarrassing
and they are
obviously championship
contenders
and it's
for second place
so I do get that
to a point
but there's
absolutely no excuse
to miss
the fact that
Lewis Hamilton
has no breaks
at the end of the race
you can see
the gap going down
you can see it
on the timing
tower
how many
times we have
this conversation
about
you can see
what's happening
from just
looking at
the timing
tower
the
whoever's in charge
of pressing
the buttons
of what cameras
they need
to be showing
just needs to
just needs to
focus on
the timing
tower
they need to have
some
person in their
ear
telling them
a million things
that are happening
just look
at the timing
tower
and you see
gaps and go
are there
at this part
of the track
there's the gap
show that
because they're
about to overtake
it's just
common sense
for me
I feel like
this example
points more
towards
archaic
processes
than
will knowledge
yes
I think that
you know
it was very obvious
all you had to do
was literally
listen to a
team radio
or anything
in the last few
laps to know that
that Lewis was
was losing
an insane amount
of time
just chuck it in
the mini box
I'm sorry
but
you know
we're talking about
Stefano Domenicali
and all these
comments
he's made about
oh
young people
don't like
watching
long races
who don't see
anything
people don't want
this
don't want that
that's why
yeah
you need to
also understand
that we want to
watch
we want to watch
the racing
over
celebrating
we want to watch
cool down
rooms
over
looking outside
the podium
and looking at
Zach Brown
walking down
the pit lane
like
these are all
old processes
and very
polished
and always
such a product
but
they kind of
forget sometimes
what we want to
watch
like
I've seen the
on board
of Hamilton
in those
last lap
or two
he's
turned off
corner cutting
rules on the
F1 game
and just
literally
just corner
cut everything
I want to
watch that
yeah
you want to
see it
he's lost
his breaks
Fernando is
catching him
I think
Lewis on the
penultimate lap
did a
two minute eight
like it was
so obvious
that
Fernando was going
to catch him
it was
four tenths
at the end
Fernando said
the F bomb
about
seven times
over the
team radio
saying
he couldn't
effing
believe it
with how
Lewis had been
driving
and we
didn't get to see
any of it
and what's
going to happen
a replay
yeah
and what's
going to happen
is
they'll
share that
on
TikTok
or whatever
and it'll
get
more views
and anything
else
in the race
and they'll
go
look
it shows
that people
want to consume
their content
this way
it's
no
that's what
we want to
see
during the race
and that
and we're
watching it
we're watching it
now
because you're
not
showing it
during the
actual
race
you know
if
if formula
one really
you know
that there's
talk about
how like
formula
one
labels
the
the drama
more
than
than anything
else
well
that was
an opportunity
to watch
Fernando Alonso
basically
losing his
mind
over the radio
Hamilton
with
no breaks
what's more
dramatic
to watch
and I get it
like
McLaren
have won the
the Constructors Championship
and you need to
pay
you know
give them
them
credit for it
and you can
the end of the race
when the race finishes
it's the same conversation
we have in qualifying
when people
haven't
crossed the line yet
and
and you're showing
them in the
garage
clapping
it's just
disrespectful
like
the race
hasn't
finished
and
they just seem to forget
that as soon as the win
crosses the line
that's it
the race
is done
and it's not
David
no one cares
about anything else
going on
well
spoiler alert
we want to see
all of the racing
until
every single person
if anything
the most exciting
bit of formula
on
is when you've
you've got a battle
going to the line
because that's
when it's
the most exciting
because it
literally matters
the most
you could even tell
that Crofty
was getting
a little bit
of grief
yeah
in the commentary
he's like
yet
they're
really close
at the
yeah
and he was even
like
we're seeing
the wrong thing
here
and he
obviously has to
you know
use more choice
of words
than we can
of saying
it's absolutely
ridiculous
turn it over
show us Hamilton
but yeah
that was
that was really
disappointing
and
we missed a lot
of overtakes
and I feel like
there's still
better processes
that need
to
to happen
here
because
yes
they focused
on Landau
versus
Max Max
versus Landau
but
like
how can we
not switch
between the two
how can we
not have more
mini boxes
how
I know
that there's
the
a separate product
of
F1 TV
and
maybe there's
stuff there
that stops
certain things
but
only bearman I think
gained two positions
and had done
like a double
overtake
on one lap
and
didn't see any of it
Fernando Alonso went
for an absolute
dive from
after the Anderson bridge
and made this
amazing move
into the
the hairpin
and we didn't see it
yeah
it's that sort of stuff
it's just
for straight
so you
sat there going
God
that was
such a rubbish
race
and you go
actually
there was
quite a lot
of
some overtakes
out there
check out
the
the social clips
on a Tuesday
and you find out
there's been loads
exactly
right
let's head to
a biggest
winner
driver
or
team
I think
it has to be
George Russell
especially going
to this weekend
unexpected
to have such
a performance
so for me
easily
has to be
George Russell
yeah
definitely
George Russell
brilliant
brilliant drive
biggest loser
driver or team
as well
it was so
nearly going
to be
Williams
but we'll
get onto that one
is it
Ferrari
being
nowhere
a track
they should
be
good at
and just
being
actually
I want to
say that
and also
add a little bit
of spice to it
Ferrari
biggest loser
6th and 7th
not only because
of their result
the result
on paper
I guess is that
where
6th and 7th
but
their car
is falling apart
yeah
Hamilton
of course
here
with the
with the penalty
their car
is falling apart
Charlotte Clair
was over the
radio
saying he's
having to lift
and coast
for 200 meters
into
into the
braking zone
and stuff like
that
and
it just
feels as though
Ferrari
have made a car
that they don't
fully understand
that they don't
know how to
unlock
and the only way
to unlock
is by
basically scraping
the plank
into a
non-existent
zone
and getting
disqualified
and
I just
feel for
for
Charlotte
who was
really quite
slow out there
at times
when I was
what
looking at
the lap times
I was like
my
god
you know
Hamilton
pit
and obviously
came through
and
but it's just
there's nowhere
they're absolutely
nowhere
for a team
for the
for a team
that
and
the narrative
about Ferrari
as they always
get
maybe
unfair
unfairly
more criticised
because
they have
a big expectation
on them
they have
a lot of
pressure
I don't think
they're getting
enough
stick
for
basically
almost
winning the
constructors
championship
last year
to then building
a car
that can't
even finish
a race
because
they're having
to manage
so much
like
is
is absolutely
an
unacceptable
and
yeah
the
it's a
you
look at
McLaren
winning
the championship
by
such a huge
margin
and
they've done
a fantastic
job
and
instructors
but this is
this was
other
you know
every
every team
had that
that
opportunity
going to
season
think
Ferrari
you know
got
Lewis Hamilton
on boards
that
they've
come so
close to the
constructors
championship
build on
that
and going
to
going to this
year
and
could have
easily been
them
and actually
they're
they're
not only
you know
not even remotely
challenging
for the title
they're now
the
the fourth
best
car
fun
fun
fun
right
let's head
to our
predictions
that we made
on
Wednesday
to see
how
we
did
the
the biggest
championship
of
them all
it's currently
45
43
to
Tommy
boo
we go
to our
good surprise
I went
for
Fernando Alonzo
who I think
was incredibly
good surprising
and I thought
at one
point
with his
9.2
second pit stop
or whatever
it was
that
that was all in
the bin
but he still
managed to finish
eighth
and I think
it was a
very
good performance
what's crazy
is
that
is the
good
that is a good
surprise
but not
in the way
we expected
we expected
us
and to just
be
good
I think
he's actually
over
delivered
with
what
what he could do
and had
a slow
pit stop
because
we
you know
we
we thought
Aston
we're going to be
potentially
comfortably
the next
best car
but I don't think
that was
the case
at all
and
and
after qualifying
when we
there was
so much
hype around
Alonzo
didn't look like
you potentially
even score
a point
so
impressive
from
and a
is teammates
on the other hand
no
just
not really
anywhere
was
who
you went for
I went for
love
stroll
you went
for lunch
zero
those
don't
watch
predictions
we now
go
to
a big
flop
Williams
color
I know
no
no no no no
let's
open
this
conversation
no
second
hold
the
fort
you are
going
to
yeah
rob me
of a big
flop
because
Carlos finished
10th
after both
the drivers
got
disqualified
10th
they didn't get
disqualified
they didn't
qualify
on the podium
they started
last
last
a
10th
challenge
color
science
brilliant
drive
definitely
not
no
no
no
it's a flop
because
they got
disqualified
from
qualified
no chance
and it's called
one
point
are you
joking
Williams
got a point
one
point
yeah
this
this is
arguably
like
their
worst
circuit
and they
got a point
no
no
relax yourself
right
this
this
is
100%
it's not
going to the
comments
by the
regulations
I am taking this
to the comments
people will
people can
say their opinion
of whether
Williams
both being disqualified
and qualifying
and then
color-scoring
one singular
point
so please
let us know
how you feel
about this one
I know
Tommy feels
very strongly
about this
but look
that's fine
this is why
we have listeners
so
get involved
get in touch
and we'll see
okay
what the
what the thoughts
are
and that's the step
and
biggest flop
that's the point
for me
because
he won the last
two races
in a second
so
I love
you've actually
written
I love
you've actually
written a point
as well
makes you
know
you are
fuming
right now
but remember
Tommy doesn't care
about who
wins the
championship
let's go
to a
pole
position
where I went
for
Lando Norris
which was
incorrect
I went
for Oscar
Piastri
incorrect
in third
position
I went
for
Oscar
and I went
for
George
Russell
I
I didn't
forget about him
but I
didn't
hype him up
enough
put him too
low
yeah
in second place
I went for
Lando Norris
I went for
Oscar
Piastri
and then in first place
I went for
Max Verstappen
so I
in fact
I got
first
second and third
a second
third fourth
so
I just
forgot
George Russell
otherwise
I would have
scored
three points
George
why don't you
DNF
for God's sake
and I
went for
Lando Norris
okay
to zero
points
on the top
three
that's
crazy
that's
crazy
behavior
for us
we promise
we are
completely finished
let's go
to our
crazy
prediction
so
mine
which
I thought
at one point
might have
come in
you might
been
zero yellow flags
which
I mean
why didn't I
just go
for no safety car
like
why did I
just decide
I don't get
any extra points
for going
just on the
fly
didn't you
that's
one ridiculous
prediction
what I just
went for
not even
crazy
I'm gutted
I'm
kicking myself
and if I
lose by
one point
I'll know
exactly
where I
lost it
mine
was
the first
non McLaren
is over
30 seconds
off the
laid
I really
really went
on this
McLaren
hype train
in the championship saver
for Max
but
well
third
and there was
one McLaren
on the
podium
one McLaren
on the
position
yeah
now
our
Patreon
prediction
this is
where you
can get involved
join
the P1
Patreon
mine
was
Jensen's
listening
with incredible
Hulk
returns to
the points
qualifies
11th
he's fighting
for a point
then
he gets his
front wing
ripped off
and then
spins off
so
not only did
Hulk
I know
there had been
another yellow
flag
by the way
there had been
another yellow
flag
glitch about
lap 14
but Hulk
then decided
I'm going to
remove myself
from the
equation of
points
and
produce a
yellow
flag
so
thank you
so much
Niko
for costing
me
two points
potentially
yeah
I think
you can have
your Williams
prediction
and I'll give you
minus two
for
for that
one
minus two
you're getting
minus a hundred
then
for Baku
my
prediction
was
the
Lewis Hamilton
gets his
first
podium
in honor of
Roscoe
by
Jack
which
did not happen
did not
happen
at all
sadly
okay
family
top
three
the constructors
championship
that not
as many people
care about
but still
before we
very
before we
do
that
so
you potentially
either got
one point
or three
question
three
no
and then
what did you get
now
stop
saying no
let them
I got none
I got none
the whole
the whole thing
yeah
are that
graphic
on social
is going
to pop off
you
you're just
going to have crying
faces
on every
single
I don't think so
it's terrible
no
no you absolutely
haven't
but
me scoring
three
will be great
thanks
thanks everybody
right
now
we had to
a family
top three
it's currently
eight seven
to the
boring
Bellingham's
now
the
this
this is going
to be interesting
so
my dad
in third
position
went for
Lando Norris
go on
and love
that from you
nice little point
my wife
went for
Oscar
Piestry
in P3
second place
my dad went for
Oscar
Piestry
incorrect
Katie went for
Max Verstappen
which
is
correct
she
she seals the fact
she's got
more
more points
than I did
for a
top three
and in first position
my dad
went for
Max Verstappen
he said
there was no
stopping him
and
George Russell
stopped him
and
my wife
went for
Lando Norris
which
was
of course
incorrect
so it's
the same
as before
it's the same
nine
eight
nine
eight to the
Bellingham's
I haven't
have the Gallagas
ever lead
I don't think
we have
the entire
season
but it doesn't matter
as long as the
last race
I'll be
fielding
my strongest
team
which
will not
be my sister
I can promise you
that she's had
one appearance
and
that was
that was great
right
that
is
it
we have
reflected on
a lot of things
big shout out
actually
as well to
Ollie Bearman
great drive
from him
P9
got absolutely
everything he could
out of that
has
to score
a couple of
points
especially
when he is
carrying
the weight of
potentially
getting banned
if
he crashes into
anybody
or does
anything silly
so
well
onto
my
final
thoughts
are
why do I
have to
wait
at
like
a couple of weeks
to the next
race
because
yep
hype for
Austin
a sprint
as well
so we
get straight
into the
the
action
on Friday
which
we love to
see
so
bring it on
hell
yeah
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coming
out of
our
ears
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in a couple
of weeks
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to that
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