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Hello, everybody, and welcome back to the P1 Podcast with Matt and Tommy.

Singapore is done.

It's dusted.

It was...

I was gonna say interesting.

It was a race.

It was a long race.

To be fair, your heart rate was probably higher than what it has been

for a lot of the races this year,

because your boy max was stabbed.

And of course, very much in the only bit of thick of things.

I was about to say that in the thick of things,

but the only bit that we really saw that was anything remotely interesting.

But that's Singapore for you.

At least we've got a sprint next year.

Hey.

Oh my God.

Yeah, Singapore is just such a difficult track to overtake on 2025.

Very much feels like, you know, it's a qualifying season

and then first into the first corner

unless it's certain other tracks where you can overtake.

So fingers crossed for Austin.

But not the best race, but still plenty of talking points,

which is always good for us, of course.

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Tom Bellingham, your most memorable moment, please.

It's the Muck incident, the McLaren incident on lap one.

Finally, a little bit of spice

adding to the championship.

We have said this the whole time, haven't we,

about McLaren playing far too nice.

And look, Landau's move,

it's getting a lot of heat online, as always.

It should do, it's a championship, yeah.

And it should do, it's a championship fight.

And basically, my take on this is it's on the edge.

It's a little bit, you know, he's racing hard.

He's racing hard.

I can't sit here and after basically criticizing Landau

for many, many times over his whole career, really,

about him being on the wrong end of every kind of incident

and him being far too nice in wheel-to-wheel moments

and not really going for it.

Finally, we saw a bit of bite from Landau Norris,

who knows that his only opportunity

is realistically going to be on that first lap.

And he saw an opportunity on his teammate

who he was going for the world championship against.

I watched that and was like,

well, absolutely finally we're seeing this,

because yeah, it's on the edge, a little bit naughty,

but it's racing that you want to see drivers

want the world championship.

And I'm personally really glad to see that moment

and not just because I'm maxed us up and fan

and hoping it's going to completely blow over

between the two of them.

Yeah, come on.

The realistic thing here is that you're happy

that Landau got through on us because it's more points

than Max has gained on the championship leader.

But no, in terms of the incident itself,

if we're talking about just what happened,

not any other race, but what happened there

and then it is a racing incident hands down.

I don't think there's any real calls

for five second penalties to be given out for that.

It is the definition of racing with the fact

that yeah, Landau went in a little bit hot into turn two.

Is it turn two or turn three technically?

Turn three, yeah.

It's the left hand, it's turn two.

It looks like turn two, but it goes in a little bit deep,

touches Max ever so slightly.

Max didn't even have a clue by the way

that Landau had made contact with his rear.

He just thought he maybe had a bit of oversteer

and then that of course then led to Landau

sort of washing slightly wide, hitting Oscar quite hard.

It was a pretty big love tap,

maybe not a lot of love between the two after this weekend.

And then Oscar of course lost out there.

That is what we want to see in terms of racing.

We want to see them pushing hard

and yes sometimes we'll bang it's for the championship

and it was a bit of spice is exactly what we want to see

from like as a fan, as a spectator to see that.

However, on additionally to this of course,

Oscar was very aggrieved by this

because his lovely Papyrus teammate

has just hit his car and got through.

But this is a separate conversation.

That's a separate conversation, yeah, 100%.

Racing incident, but I also absolutely understand

why Oscar's annoyed.

Oscar going, but I thought we played for like fair.

Yeah, we've been playing fair the whole time.

We're meant to because that whole Papyrus rules

is you race your teammate hard

but you don't make contact.

So his understanding of that incident is well,

he's made contact and he's basically barged me out of the way

and it actually looks much worse.

When you see the whole incident,

this is why I think it's a racing incident.

It looks worse from Oscar's onboard

so I can understand why he's even more angry in the car

because he can't see that he's almost gone,

that Lando's almost gone into the back of Max Verstappen

and that's why he's kind of avoided that and run wide.

But yeah, you're right, it's completely different incident.

You can see it that I need to give props to Lando

because I've been saying forever

and even in that last race,

why isn't he going for moves?

He's trying to win the world championship.

We had a question, I'm sure it was last week going,

does Lando even want to win this world championship?

And we've gone, yeah, like he doesn't seem to want to

and then today I can't then now criticize him

for basically getting his elbows out

and trying to wrestle the position at the start

which we know what Singapore's like.

It's the only opportunity to go for a move.

So yeah, it was great to see.

Yeah, so this was always going to happen.

This papaya rules, but then on top of that,

this fairness rule thing that we said was going to backfire

immediately when they started to introduce that

and this is exactly what's happened

because Oscar is well within his rights

to question what on earth is fair now

if that is deemed fine.

If wheelbanging is fine, then you're basically just back to,

okay, we're just going to race now then like that.

It's such a very interesting that Zach

because Zach Brown has basically openly said

it's hard racing.

So now we go into these kind of final races

that we've basically got a level of this is fair.

You can bang wheels.

Does not help the allegations of that McLaren want Lando

to win the world championship

between when Oscars on the wrong end

of this particular incident.

But yeah, six races to go.

I firmly believe that we may well have seen

the end of Nicie, Nicie McLaren question

from P1 Patriot member, Zingy 13.

Are the gloves finally off at McLaren?

This is what we have been asking for all season.

Will we see them come to blows in the upcoming races?

I firmly believe so that was six races out now

from the end of the championship.

Lando is within a race.

We're now 22 points behind his teammate

and Lando has to do what we saw on lap one.

Every single race if he's behind his teammate

he needs to get his elbows out

and he needs to show that he wants to win

this world championship

and not accept McLaren, Nicie, Nicie rules

or I'll just give up three points or six points

or seven points or whatever it is to Oscar.

Oscar on the other side is going to think

after this or screw this

I'm not going to be letting my teammate

throw at Monza because he had a slow pit stop

which I still reflecting that

just the most ridiculous thing

after watching F1 for 25, 30 years.

I think the driver's gloves are off at McLaren

but McLaren will be like,

no, no, no, we're still playing fair.

Happy happy we won the constructors

by the rules we've made within the team

but I think this is where we see perhaps

and I think is absolutely fair

for the drivers and especially Oscar Piatru

after the situation to go.

We'll see about that one.

Yeah, absolutely.

We've the constructors championship has been won now

it is a ridiculous kind of thing to even suggest

they were never going to win it

it wasn't like last year where it was a little bit closer

and they were dropping points here

and you know the gap closed

they're always going to win it

it was just a matter of you know

when it was going to happen

and it's been done now.

So I do I was going to say

I hope that McLaren now just let them

leave them to it and let them race

but I think crucially here

Zach Brown's comments after that

and saying what Lando did is just hard racing

that's it like this game on now

of what you're allowed to do

and you know as we've seen

and as we mentioned at the start of this show

about Singapore what what a stinker

but so much of this season has been about turn one

you know Max Verstappen at Imola

making that move on on Piatru

Piatru on Max Verstappen at Saudi

so many of these races have been won

by turn one or the first

because it is the best opportunity

to overtake with these cars that are so difficult

so difficult to pass now with dirty air and stuff

so this this does open

you know a very kind of

drivers are surely going to be aggressive now

Oscar can now use this to for a way to be like

oh yeah okay I'll be aggressive now

and now this is the precedent that set of like

this is the limit that's okay so

very nice indeed love to see it

finally we said I think last last week

sorry last last race we kind of

no sorry sorry I think his mom's actually

where we were basically talking about

we're maybe just going to have to reset our brains

and think well this is just going to be the McLaren way

that it is going to be holding hands

and skipping to the constructors championship

and that's the way McLaren are going to play it

but I think something's changed there

and I also think it's even more dangerous to go down

this route of setting precedents

because you're always going to upset a driver

and today Oscar was the one upset

just letting them race

I feel is a safer bet like obviously got max now

63 points behind Oscar Piazza in the championship

trying to manage these two drivers

that both don't have a world championship under their belt

I just feel like it's going to get worse

if they genuinely are on the same piece of tarmac

for the next six races

surely it's safer to just go guys we trust you

I know you're both two number one drivers

you might come together

but until then just go be free

for me if there was if there was a multiple world champion

and a super aggressive driver that that's kind of

slowly getting into the mix

and a few and quite a lot of points behind but gaining

wouldn't that be fun

we'll talk about him later anyway

yeah we certainly will

next question people on page remember glush

is Oscar in the right

about the lap one incident

Norris seemed to go in just a tiny bit too hot

towards the back of max

which made him take evasive action

yes these two things can coexist of

I think it's a racing incident

and Landau's got every right to barge

his championship rival out the way

but the reason Oscar asked the question

is because McLaren have really pushed this whole

we've got to race fair

you're not allowed to make contact with your teammate

you're not allowed to do this

we're always going to reset positions

and slow pit stops

you need to let someone back through

and you know there's even a little bit of it today

where they were

that they basically won the championship now

and that and they were going to win the championship

and that and they were still asking questions of like

oh we might lose a place to Leclerc here on an undercut

so should we do this

I know they want to bag as many points as possible

for that championship

and and it's all about that's the way they play

and it's all about the team

but I do hope they just just let them just get on with it

now and we don't need to see this but

Oscar has every right to ask that question

I think just because of how McLaren have been playing it

and that the way they've

basically like their whole papaya rules thing

that we've seen for the last couple of seasons

he's got every right to kind of question it

I think to go back very quickly to you saying

Lando has every right to barge his teammate out the way

I think that probably we should put a word of unintentionally

unintentionally barge his teammate

because it was an unintentional race in a race

yeah I think just we all bang is not saying

I'm a massive southern fan but not that much

yeah exactly

because it was racing Lando racing is racing to hit Oscar

he of course it was clumsy and it was

his responsibility to not make that contact

but it wasn't intentional I'm slamming my teammate out the way

basically yeah yeah exactly

so I back to the thing Oscar was absolutely right

because of everything that McLaren have said

he was right to question it

he was right to feel aggrieved

had that been anyone else other than his teammate

probably would again still had a comment over the radio

but I think he himself would know that that would not be

a penalty and I think that when he's able to review it

all and see exactly what happened

because of course he's commenting from the cockpit

where his teammate has hit him

he can't see the max incident as well

the full context and perhaps even though to be fair

he did say you know oh so he was avoiding Max

and then crashing into me how is that fair

so perhaps he doesn't know the full context

but I wonder he was very PR friendly in the interview

Oscar knows exactly not to get a headline

but yeah I wonder what he really truly thinks

maybe we'll just go ask Mark Webber

can he come on the podcast please

next question Gavin Curley 90

if Lando had been on the receiving end of the first corner

would McLaren have called for Oscar to give back the position

I know so many people have like yeah

without a shadow of a doubt

Zach Brown would have made the call as CEO

to get Lando back through

I'm not as confident to say that

I don't know

it's this is a if but maybe different universe

you know Lando is not being favored in every way

in the sense of like you think of the pit stops that he's had

he's not you know they're not sabotaging Oscar in the pit lane

of course Oscar did have a bad pit stop this race

but Lando has had his fair share of bad fortune in the pit lane

so it's a dangerous question

because it goes down the route of I don't know

what I need to see is another very similar incident

but Lando is the one that's not is on the receiving end of that

and then we can truly weigh in

but I think it's hard to say

but I would like to think no

well I saw slightly tongue-in-cheek messages about how

because Oscar had a slow pit stop

and then finished the amount of his slow pit stop

less than that behind Lando

then it's like oh well what's what's fair then and stuff like that

look I I think with with Lando

there's no doubt in my mind that Zach Brown

would prefer Lando to win the championship

agreed

but I don't think McLaren are basically going to particularly

as Oscar is ahead and Max Verstappen is kind of lurking

in the background that they're going to completely throw

Oscars championship away because you know

as you mentioned the slight there's been moments this year

where you can kind of go oh that that's in favor of Lando

you know the the Monza incident or there's been moments

where like they've taught pastry to back off when he's

when he's trying to race Lando and things like that

or like cool cool off and things like that

but then equally Lando's had about four or five slow pit stops

in a row and that doesn't fit the narrative does it say

and Lando helped Oscar in Baku if I'm not mistaken as well

I was told to to help him obviously last year I think that

last year of course yeah yeah so there are moments where

it's not like it's you know team Lando and that's

no I didn't think I didn't think it is like you know

I'm not going to sit here and pretend that I think

that it's completely equal because it's quite clear that

that Lando is very much Zack's boy isn't he of like you know

and that you do get that in teams but McLaren at the end

of the day are allowing both of their drivers a shot

of the world championship they've have their papaya rules

which you know in theory lets them race and and you know

it's not if they wanted Lando to win the world championship

they could have easily just throw thrown Oscars championship

down the toilet and just really back Lando right from the

start based on you know what happened last year or something

but they haven't they've continued to let them race

and we we now wait and see and you know how it continues

yeah because as well McLaren don't want to lose well I

don't think they do want to lose a talent in Oscar

Piastri to another team they've got two incredibly

strong drivers that are doing very very well yes they're

not probably the finished package but they are they

delivered a constructors championship by an absolute

landslides they've matched Red Bulls constructors you

know amount of races left record from 2023 that's no mean

feat so it yeah it's it's a difficult one I know for a

fact there'll be tons of comments saying absolutely

Lando is the number one golden child at McLaren but it's

a very dangerous thing for McLaren to actively try and

sabotage Oscar and I think it would be very stupid

for a team to do that particularly as he's the one

with the points advantage right yeah because there is

a six races to go Max could absolutely beat Lando in

the championship there is that there is a chance there

that that could happen so McLaren cannot go this year

without a world champion even if it'd be the most

embarrassing fumble of all time and they've probably

arguably done it already McLaren so they don't want to

do it again 2007 for context okay all right not last

year everybody no no no no that was maybe Tommy you have

when you're dropping law you have to say which year not

everyone has watched it since 2007 you absolute boomer

next question P1 Patriot member Blackson should Norris

have taken more risk to get past Verstappen or is he

measuring the risk versus reward in rather chipping

away than going for glory the latter I can't criticize

Lando one bit for not going for a move on Max Verstappen

if he goes for it and it goes wrong basically Oscar

Piastri has won the world championship because Oscar

moves into second place and it's a DNF for both Max

and Lando so I totally understand why he didn't go

for that move is risk versus reward of course it would

have been great for him to know for his championship

to get even more points on Oscar Piastri but you

know I can criticize him for Baku and not doing it

on Yuki Senoda and Liam Lawson a track where you

can overtake and it showed overtaking was possible

even though it was difficult this track so so so hard

to overtake that you have to be so sure or you have

to have Isaac had jar with half an engine or Lewis

Hamilton on soft tires or no breaks to be able

to overtake that's what we saw in that race so it

was risk versus reward and I think you did the

right thing just not going for something stupid

personally yeah and I think there will be people

that go okay how can you say you're fine with

this one but then criticize him for Baku but

I feel as you say two very different scenarios

Baku was difficult and he was stuck in a DRS train

but like there were a lot more opportunities I think

than than what we saw in Singapore also he's trying

to overtake the guy that literally said I'll

remember this one for him if that's playing

in his mind then Max is doing exactly what Max

does and he's gaining advantages off the track

as well as as well as on but I I think that

Lando understood his situation he was ahead

of Oscar which he would have taken every day of

the week after qualifying and I think it was

the correct decision he got very close at one

point didn't he he went to the outside of Max

and there was no no chance of getting through

he had to pray for Max's tires to fall off

even more of course he had the offset of around

six seven laps on those hards but yeah it

was the right decision Lando gains on Oscar

marginally and he can go to the next race

in Austin hoping for a little bit more

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P1 Petri member has K Oscar

Villanark incoming so final

question on the McLaren

shenanigans yeah I think so

I and maybe this is just because

I want to see entertainment

I want to I don't want to see

the nice stuff I want to see them

you know just just literally

both just be going at it for

the world championship that

that's all I want and this is

what I've always ever seen in

Formula One when two drivers

have gone up against each other

is there's no team intervention

it's just I see a gap

let's go for it let's see

what happens so for me I think

Oscar as much as he was very

PR friendly in the interviews

he will understand now

that will banging is acceptable

so we can take that one

lovely hard racing take that

and and hopefully it will

it will make for better

entertainment for everyone

watching as well I hope so

yeah I think we'll see the

Villanark in the sense that

yeah he now knows that

will banging is okay and his

team team principal is

confusing because that brown

acts like he's team principal

he's not team boss CEO

you know as basically said

that's that's racing

hard racing so that's allowed

now but I you know

we're as we're recording

we're yet to see if Oscar

had any damage from it

I'd be amazed if it was

but I think you had

opportunities that

they would have been able to

pass land and just because

it's so difficult to pass

but I really expected

Oscar to to catch up and

potentially be on the back

of land at the end of that

that race and maybe that

could have been opportunity

to put him under a bit of

pressure and you know

give one give one back

on land based on

on what happened because

Max was really really

struggling at the end there

and Oscar just looked a

little bit and off

the pace this weekend

and look I do think

we can say about the villain

knock and I don't think

it's absolute panic

stations for Oscar

Piastri that's not

what I'm saying at all

but if we go back

to the Dutch Grand Prix

when Oscar Piastri won

we were talking about

is the championship

over as Oscar Piastri won

a brilliantly won

the Dutch Grand Prix

very very comfortably

you know Landau had

the failure

which knocked him

huge chunk of points

down and we're kind

of thinking right

this is Oscar's championship

to win and since then

you know didn't

had the the incident

in Monza with with Landau

where they of course

swapped over over that

but Oscar was slower

in that race

then we got to Azerbaijan

and you know had the worst

race he could possibly

have ever had there

and then you go into Singapore

and he's not even

on the podium so

you've got to say

his form is not

you know it's not great

and I don't think

it's like panic stations

he's crumbling but

I was one of these people

that thought

as we get into the later

stages Oscar Piastri's

mentality and him being

like the Iceman is going to

be the thing that wins him

the world's championship

but actually we saw him

you know

not on the pace

and seemingly very frustrated

and you know constant

radio messages

seemingly very very

unhappy with everything

we talk about potential

damage it was Landau

that had the visible damage

if we haven't actually

mentioned that

you know he was the one

that was running the

end plate damage

and still was able to

be flying

at some point during that race

although we know the end plates

as George Russell checked

in the cool down room

that as soon as you

your own plates

hang in our flight

Ferrari you suddenly go quicker

he's like yeah

but better flex

I think like they said

whether he actually

went faster

I'm not sure

but

yeah so

I don't

highly doubt Oscar

would have got damage

from that

it was wheel

wheel banging

yeah he was just

he was just slow

in comparison to Landau

of course

but he still

picked up a good amount

of points

and didn't lose much

to Landau

so

for him

it's

it's a sort of

a building of

confidence to some degree

after Baku

he wasn't miles off

he's still out

qualified Landau

so I don't think

it's all terrible

it's not panic stations

but it's definitely

it's not

it's not the best form

at the moment

absolutely not

but he still leads

the championship

by a healthy margin

now we go to

my most memorable moment

goodness gracious

it's taken a while

but we've got here

and mine of course

is my boy

Max Verstappen

gaining points

again

in the championship

and it does need to be

spoken about

Max

very

you know

writing off his chances

after it's

saying

he needed to win

and this that

and the other

you know

he

is not going to say

in the media

I'm going to win

the championship

because it is

a very

massive

outside chance

but

he gained points

around Singapore

which we said

leading up to Singapore

if he gains points

if he beats the McLarens

then his championship on

we did not expect

to George Russell

to just

dominate the entire weekend

yeah

Mercedes just winning

out of nowhere

in the hottest race

for the current

you know

George said himself that

it was one of the races

that he would have put

himself as

least likely

to win

and he's gone

and done it

it is

very much

rolling of the dice

for Mercedes

of

when they

when they're quick

and when they're not

but

that's a factor

in the next six races

themselves

Ferrari

if they just

stop disintegrating

and

you know

perhaps

it's

it's just

that these moments

can change things

and getting

a George Russell

coming out of nowhere

or two for our result

or

whoever it might be

suddenly the points

swings

point swings

can be more

but they also

can be less

if you don't win the race

so Max only gained

six points on

Piastri

three points on

on Landau

but I think

you would have taken this

coming into

Singapore

Tommy

yeah

knowing that

you know

that

the points

gap has come down

not come down

enough

to even start

to get excited

I don't think

but

63 points

not impossible

it's not

I'm

I'm so conflicted

because

I've basically

the way

this podcast has gone

since

basically

Monza

where he won

and it was kind of

spoken about

of like

Oh

Max

championship

and it's like

no

absolutely not

it's just

an outlier

Red Bull are really good

at these kind of circuits

he's not

20 seconds

clear

then he goes

and wins

back

here

and Oscar

Piastri doesn't

finish

and I said

like

when we get to Singapore

if he beats them

there

we'll know

and it will

feel a bit

more like

championship

back on

that being said

I share

his thoughts

of like

he needed to win

and there's

there's talk

there of

you know

fine margins

and qualifying

if he'd lead

could he have won

the race

very difficult

to pass

not to take

anything away

from George

will speak about him

later and was

you know

absolutely

brilliant

but he did

gain on McLaren

at what should have been

his worst track

really

from

from the ones

left

and McLaren

it's

he would

he'd never admit this

but

if you said

what would you prefer

max winning

and having the points

or

the McLaren's

having a bit

of an incident

it just

puts that

little bit

more pressure

on the fact

that they're

going to start

potentially maybe

squabbling

a little bit

and racing

each other

harder

that is also

what max

needs

because

if he's going to do

a

Kimmie Reichen

in

in 2007

where the

the McLaren's

were fighting

and Kimmie

came out

came out of

nowhere

and won the

the championship

and we've

seen this

before

way back

in the

80s

as well

with Williams

that

you need

the teammates

to

to fight

because

max

realistically

I know

we have this

this kind

of scenario

although I guess

that's gone now

because he didn't

win the Singapore

Grand Prix

but

he's going to

really need

a

a Piastri

DNF

or at least

finishing

seventh

or eighth

again

and

because

he's not going to

win

all the

remaining

races

he needs

some

good fortune

as well

I think

he's got

a chance

and

at

winning

a few

of those

remaining

races

you look

at

what

what's left

Texas

is very

strong at

Mexico

is

one of

his best circuits

into

Lagos

is one of his best

circuits

Vegas

back on

Vegas

maybe not

now

Charlotte

but

McLaren is

is

very

you know

traditionally

weak around there

cat eyes

McLaren

all day

long

and Abu Dhabi

is

a bit of a

mixed bag

so

just

I guess

I like a

broke a

record

we need to

wait

till

we wait

till the end

of the season

till

and then

we'll know

if

Max can

win

that's

what you're

saying

I will

yeah

I will say

that

it is

ideal

timing

having a bit of

this

contact

not

fisticuffs

but

absolutely

something

but

but it's

just

put this

whole

nice

y

nicey

stuff

into

turmoil

and

I agree

I think

Max

needs an

Oscar

Piastry

Stinker

because as I said

earlier

I think

Max

can beat

Lando

in the

championship

if he

mounts

a massive

charge

in the next

six races

so

he

doesn't

so

we've got

six

left

and

sprints

with you

so

yeah

so

so Max

will

single race

between now

and the other

season

he can have

Lando finish

second

in all of them

and he'll

beat Lando

in the championship

so he

would only

need

it

like

this

but he wouldn't be

Oscar

so yeah

he needs

Oscar

to have

the Stinker

so I know

where

I know we're

dreaming

but this

is

this

deserves

its time

because

if Max

had fallen back

to 75

points behind

this could be

put in the bin

and we can

never speak

about it

ever again

and I can

put my

Ferrari

top back on

but

this

yeah

there is a chance

it's weird

how it's like

it's ramped up

the fact that

he can do it

more

because

he's beaten

the McLarens

at a track

he

realistically

shouldn't have

beaten them

I think a lot

of that

anyway

is

is mainly

because

you can't

overtake

there

because

clearly

the McLarens

were

were faster

or at least

Lando

was a lot

faster

and

would have passed him

at maybe

any other

traditional

circuit

but

he didn't

grab that

kind of

big hall

of

he kind of

kind of needs

you know

I'm worried about

two things here

well

I'm not worried

about the

the

the claim

that I made of

get

getting a

tattoo

if he

if he wins

yes

just

ever

so

everybody

knows

in case

you weren't

tuning into

the watch

along

Tommy

has agreed

that

he will

get

a

tattoo

to celebrate

Max's

2025

world championship

win

should

he win

so that

that

is

I'm here for it

what I am

concerned

your left

ask check right

yes

and no one will ever

see it

and

so the

I might

sorry

Kevin

so stream

presenting

I've lost

a trailer

though

now

you're red

can't remember

what I'm saying

something about

Max being

great

it was

oh my

God

I literally can't remember

points

Singapore

it was

all I can think of

is now

an arse

tattoo

well

how it was

brought up

was the fact

that you know

Max winning

the championship

so

honestly

it's just

completely you've

lost it

it's completely

good for a member

later

yeah

you'll come back

to it

but let's go

to a question

from

fresh

pie

F one

did Max

do enough

today

to stay

in the championship

hunt

I've remembered

what it was

it was

the fact

that

I am slightly concerned

now

that those

points

lost in

Spain

with this moment

of madness

could

potentially

now

be

the thing that

that we do

look back on

and go

oh

if only

he had

or even

if you know

that incident

of like

you know

because

if he does

I still think

the championship

is a huge

stretch

but

it'd be

54

behind

yeah

and that's

that's

just over

two wins

which is

not

out

the

question

this is such a

ridiculous answer

but it's kind of

like a yes

and no

as

as we've

mentioned

earlier

like

yes

he did

ish

yeah

yes

he did

because he beat

the McLaren

that track

he shouldn't have

but he didn't

gain enough

that he

he

needs to

but then

you can

argue

that

where

he's going

to gain

on

McLaren

big points

this would have been

the track

that you

kind of

thought

he might

almost

like

damage limitation

and he

only wants to lose

maybe three

or four

or five

to

to McLaren

and he's

it's just about

kind of

staying

in there

so

yeah

he's gained

he's

he's taken

points out

again

you know

to think

he was

a hundred and

four points

behind

at the summer break

and

madness

you know

no one

was he

was even

giving this

a

a prayer

so

yeah

if we were being

realistic

coming into

Singapore

it was either

I mean

this kind of

feels like

the maximum

from a realistic perspective

max could have

done

and anything else

was championship

over

in my head

a massive

10-point swing

at Singapore

wasn't

on the cards

at least

when we came into this

we did not

think that was

going to happen

so

I would say

yes

in the fact

that we are

still talking

about it

and he is still

within

a very outside chance

of doing

something crazy

but that is

all it still is

you know

Tommy's not

swinging his t-shirt

around his head

at the moment

I just said t-shirt

but

it might well

happen

might well

happen after Austin

if both Oscar

and Lando collide

I

then it's 38 points

with five to go

Oh my God

Yeah

it is

it is one of these

I think

I think it's

basically

it's a situation

where if it's

any other driver

we're probably

not even talking

about it

even being possible

No

but it's max

we need to

it's fun

exciting

and I'm

you know

we're formal one

fans

and it's nice

to think

about the hypothetical

even if

he doesn't do it

it's very unlikely

that he

he

does

it's that

disruptor

of making

McLaren's

sweat a bit more

and feeling like

they can't just

have their

easy championship

where they

McLaren

can control

control it

and make it

you know

do what

do what they want

because

they can't

McLaren

can't afford

to

do too much

where they're

swapping positions

and

backing off too much

it's not like a situation

where it's like

you know

like Mercedes

years ago

where they're

700 points

clear or whatever

this is

you know

the championship

is there

to be one

if McLaren

do start messing around

and potentially have

like a

a DNF

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to a chat

about George Russell

for sure

because I think

he absolutely

deserves it

George Russell

dominated

this weekend

qualifying

was

as we said

yesterday

two laps

that were

phenomenal

of course

it won't go down

is

in the history books

for

you know

certain laps

in

in F1 history

that you just

look back on

and go

wow

that was

like

but I don't think

it was far away

like George

was

brilliant yesterday

and then today

just completely

unfazed

this is a track

where he has

crashed

in the last few laps

when he had

a chance

to win

and

still showed

the mental strength

of just

getting over that

moving on

he's a man

that definitely

struggles with heat

as well

I can

absolutely

feel the bloke

like he is

is British

he's a hot man

through and through

he's a hot man

he's British

through and through

and

you could tell

he was absolutely

finished

at the end of that one

but still kept his

you know

his composure

didn't make any mistakes

and

could have

at times

Max was within

three seconds

in that second stint

but

he just

kept it

within the white lines

and

kept out of the barriers

and

you really could not

have asked

any more of George

and

you kind of forget

that he crashed

in Fp1

as well

Yeah it was

20th

and

Fp2

wasn't he

I think

and

yeah

we were basically

talking about

how Mercedes

aren't really anywhere

and

Fernando Alonso could

challenge

maybe

for a really good

points finish

because

Mercedes are nowhere

and George ends up

winning the race

and

you know

this isn't to take

anything away from

him

but

he won

he won it in qualifying

which is much of the case

that we see

in Fp1

but

it's not to take

anything away from him

because

my God

what a lap

what a

two laps

that he did

were absolutely brilliant

and he put himself

in that position

and again

I'll

I'll say

yesterday

that's

for me

that's not

a

it's

it's not a situation

where you go

old Mercedes

were comfortably

the best car

it's not like

a Vegas

where you thought

oh

Mercedes

come out and they're

where

they're comfortably

the best

that's George Russell

putting a brilliant

qualifying lap

when he had

an opportunity

to do it

and

this is what

great drivers

do

when

there's something

we

we have

applauded

Max Verstappen

for

Lewis Hamilton

for in the past

that

when the car

isn't quite there

they still

take that opportunity

and yes

the

better than it has been

in in previous races

but

yeah

he won the race

brilliantly

and that's what

the great drivers

do

and I'll

say it again

that we did

yesterday

that

give him a championship

winning car

and

yeah

I think

he'll

he'll win a championship

for sure

and sign his

blooming contract

Mercedes

give him what he wants

for crying out loud

he's a brilliant

driver

asking

probably for

some commitment

from the team

and

just got to give it to him

you just

really do

like what more

does he

need to

do

he's

beaten

Kimmy

Antonelli

comprehensively

with Kimmy's

massive

hype into the season

and

yeah

I think that

George

really does deserve

his props

for that one

next question

P1Petra member

Rosie

Rangetsu

what on earth

are they

thinking

giving Singapore

a sprint

next year

between the difficulty

overtaking

around the circuit

and the dirty air

surely

it will be a stinker

I can categorically say

so

so confidently

it won't be worth

watching

it will straight

if they're

well

if

yeah

no just

yeah

just listen

to the podcast

afterwards

honestly

it

what is there

to bring

with a Singapore

sprint

it'll be lap

one

turn

one

and it's been a reminder

obviously

after watching

this Grand Prix

like

with a throwing

a dart

at a board

of like

who's going to

get the sprint

this year

oh

it's not

Brazil

it's Singapore

like

also

we never

a briefcase

not having a sprint

by the way

we did not

we did not pop off

about Brazil

not having a sprint

it's absolutely

ridiculous

yeah

maybe it's a briefcase

but Singapore

sprint next year

disaster

waiting to happen

I

honestly

just not happy about it

to be honest with you

it's going to be

hotter as well as next

it'll be in the

in the daytime

or yeah

just

everything about it

sounds horrendous

but here we are

maybe

next year

all the cars

will be able to

overtake

it'd be the best race

of the year

but I don't think

it will be

no

it won't

because

we've had

you know

the previous regulations

Singapore's always

been a really

really difficult

track to overtake at

even in previous

regulations

we've seen

how hard it is to pass

this is before

we've had

arguably one of the

you know

the worst years

for dirty air

and

an overtaking

that we've seen

in a long time

and yet

yeah

Singapore

even before that

still didn't

deliver

and

yeah

it's just

it's just a terrible

I

I genuinely

I don't think

it's even unfair

to say

that other than

Monaco

I think it's

literally the worst

sprint

you could possibly

pick

and if anything

Monaco sprint

would at least

be kind of silly

but

yeah

be like

overly silly

whereas this

one just

feels like a

waste of a

sprint

to be honest

100%

right

let's head to

another question

people on page

remember

funky guy

why did the

TV direction

miss Lewis

versus

Fernando

they need

to get it

together

because

they're too busy

zooming in

on the driver's

girlfriends

then

watching the racing

and

I'm so bored of having

this conversation

all the time

about

how

the TV directors

like

any kind of

wheel knowledge

but

when

everyone can see

I can

I can forgive them

for certain moments

where

we were maybe missing

Hamilton's fight back

we saw it in

the mini box

but we kind of

wanted to

see it full-screen

by understand

why they were

showing

the Stappan and

Lando

because if they'd

missed that move

it would have been really

embarrassing

and they are

obviously championship

contenders

and it's

for second place

so I do get that

to a point

but there's

absolutely no excuse

to miss

the fact that

Lewis Hamilton

has no breaks

at the end of the race

you can see

the gap going down

you can see it

on the timing

tower

how many

times we have

this conversation

about

you can see

what's happening

from just

looking at

the timing

tower

the

whoever's in charge

of pressing

the buttons

of what cameras

they need

to be showing

just needs to

focus on

the timing

tower

they need to have

some

person in their

ear

telling them

a million things

that are happening

just look

at the timing

tower

and you see

gaps and go

are there

at this part

of the track

there's the gap

show that

because they're

about to overtake

it's just

common sense

for me

I feel like

this example

points more

towards

archaic

processes

than

will knowledge

yes

I think that

you know

it was very obvious

all you had to do

was literally

listen to a

team radio

or anything

in the last few

laps to know that

that Lewis was

was losing

an insane amount

of time

just chuck it in

the mini box

I'm sorry

but

you know

we're talking about

Stefano Domenicali

and all these

comments

he's made about

oh

young people

don't like

watching

long races

who don't see

anything

people don't want

this

don't want that

that's why

yeah

you need to

also understand

that we want to

watch

we want to watch

the racing

over

celebrating

we want to watch

cool down

rooms

over

looking outside

the podium

and looking at

Zach Brown

walking down

the pit lane

like

these are all

old processes

and very

polished

and always

such a product

but

they kind of

forget sometimes

what we want to

watch

like

I've seen the

on board

of Hamilton

in those

last lap

or two

he's

turned off

corner cutting

rules on the

F1 game

and just

literally

just corner

cut everything

I want to

watch that

yeah

you want to

see it

he's lost

his breaks

Fernando is

catching him

I think

Lewis on the

penultimate lap

did a

two minute eight

like it was

so obvious

that

Fernando was going

to catch him

it was

four tenths

at the end

Fernando said

the F bomb

about

seven times

over the

team radio

saying

he couldn't

effing

believe it

with how

Lewis had been

driving

and we

didn't get to see

any of it

and what's

going to happen

a replay

yeah

and what's

going to happen

is

they'll

share that

on

TikTok

or whatever

and it'll

get

more views

and anything

else

in the race

and they'll

go

look

it shows

that people

want to consume

their content

this way

it's

no

that's what

we want to

see

during the race

and that

and we're

watching it

we're watching it

now

because you're

not

showing it

during the

actual

race

you know

if

if formula

one really

you know

that there's

talk about

how like

formula

one

labels

the

the drama

more

than

than anything

else

well

that was

an opportunity

to watch

Fernando Alonso

basically

losing his

mind

over the radio

Hamilton

with

no breaks

what's more

dramatic

to watch

and I get it

like

McLaren

have won the

the Constructors Championship

and you need to

pay

you know

give them

them

credit for it

and you can

the end of the race

when the race finishes

it's the same conversation

we have in qualifying

when people

haven't

crossed the line yet

and

and you're showing

them in the

garage

clapping

it's just

disrespectful

like

the race

hasn't

finished

and

they just seem to forget

that as soon as the win

crosses the line

that's it

the race

is done

and it's not

David

no one cares

about anything else

going on

well

spoiler alert

we want to see

all of the racing

until

every single person

if anything

the most exciting

bit of formula

on

is when you've

you've got a battle

going to the line

because that's

when it's

the most exciting

because it

literally matters

the most

you could even tell

that Crofty

was getting

a little bit

of grief

yeah

in the commentary

he's like

yet

they're

really close

at the

yeah

and he was even

like

we're seeing

the wrong thing

here

and he

obviously has to

you know

use more choice

of words

than we can

of saying

it's absolutely

ridiculous

turn it over

show us Hamilton

but yeah

that was

that was really

disappointing

and

we missed a lot

of overtakes

and I feel like

there's still

better processes

that need

to

to happen

here

because

yes

they focused

on Landau

versus

Max Max

versus Landau

but

like

how can we

not switch

between the two

how can we

not have more

mini boxes

how

I know

that there's

the

a separate product

of

F1 TV

and

maybe there's

stuff there

that stops

certain things

but

only bearman I think

gained two positions

and had done

like a double

overtake

on one lap

and

didn't see any of it

Fernando Alonso went

for an absolute

dive from

after the Anderson bridge

and made this

amazing move

into the

the hairpin

and we didn't see it

yeah

it's that sort of stuff

it's just

for straight

so you

sat there going

God

that was

such a rubbish

race

and you go

actually

there was

quite a lot

of

some overtakes

out there

check out

the

the social clips

on a Tuesday

and you find out

there's been loads

exactly

right

let's head to

a biggest

winner

driver

or

team

I think

it has to be

George Russell

especially going

to this weekend

unexpected

to have such

a performance

so for me

easily

has to be

George Russell

yeah

definitely

George Russell

brilliant

brilliant drive

biggest loser

driver or team

as well

it was so

nearly going

to be

Williams

but we'll

get onto that one

is it

Ferrari

being

nowhere

a track

they should

be

good at

and just

being

actually

I want to

say that

and also

add a little bit

of spice to it

Ferrari

biggest loser

6th and 7th

not only because

of their result

the result

on paper

I guess is that

where

6th and 7th

but

their car

is falling apart

yeah

Hamilton

of course

here

with the

with the penalty

their car

is falling apart

Charlotte Clair

was over the

radio

saying he's

having to lift

and coast

for 200 meters

into

into the

braking zone

and stuff like

that

and

it just

feels as though

Ferrari

have made a car

that they don't

fully understand

that they don't

know how to

unlock

and the only way

to unlock

is by

basically scraping

the plank

into a

non-existent

zone

and getting

disqualified

and

I just

feel for

for

Charlotte

who was

really quite

slow out there

at times

when I was

what

looking at

the lap times

I was like

my

god

you know

Hamilton

pit

and obviously

came through

and

but it's just

there's nowhere

they're absolutely

nowhere

for a team

for the

for a team

that

and

the narrative

about Ferrari

as they always

get

maybe

unfair

unfairly

more criticised

because

they have

a big expectation

on them

they have

a lot of

pressure

I don't think

they're getting

enough

stick

for

basically

almost

winning the

constructors

championship

last year

to then building

a car

that can't

even finish

a race

because

they're having

to manage

so much

like

is

is absolutely

an

unacceptable

and

yeah

the

it's a

you

look at

McLaren

winning

the championship

by

such a huge

margin

and

they've done

a fantastic

job

and

instructors

but this is

this was

other

you know

every

every team

had that

that

opportunity

going to

season

think

Ferrari

you know

got

Lewis Hamilton

on boards

that

they've

come so

close to the

constructors

championship

build on

that

and going

to

going to this

year

and

could have

easily been

them

and actually

they're

not only

you know

not even remotely

challenging

for the title

they're now

the

the fourth

best

car

fun

right

let's head

to our

predictions

that we made

on

Wednesday

to see

how

we

did

the

the biggest

championship

of

them all

it's currently

45

43

to

Tommy

boo

we go

to our

good surprise

I went

for

Fernando Alonzo

who I think

was incredibly

good surprising

and I thought

at one

point

with his

9.2

second pit stop

or whatever

it was

that

that was all in

the bin

but he still

managed to finish

eighth

and I think

it was a

very

good performance

what's crazy

is

that

is the

good

that is a good

surprise

but not

in the way

we expected

us

and to just

be

good

I think

he's actually

over

delivered

with

what

what he could do

and had

a slow

pit stop

because

we

you know

we

we thought

Aston

we're going to be

potentially

comfortably

the next

best car

but I don't think

that was

the case

at all

and

after qualifying

when we

there was

so much

hype around

Alonzo

didn't look like

you potentially

even score

a point

so

impressive

from

and a

is teammates

on the other hand

no

just

not really

anywhere

was

who

you went for

I went for

love

stroll

you went

for lunch

zero

those

don't

watch

predictions

we now

go

to

a big

flop

Williams

color

I know

no

no no no no

let's

open

this

conversation

no

second

hold

the

fort

you are

going

to

yeah

rob me

of a big

flop

because

Carlos finished

10th

after both

the drivers

got

disqualified

10th

they didn't get

disqualified

they didn't

qualify

on the podium

they started

last

a

10th

challenge

color

science

brilliant

drive

definitely

not

no

it's a flop

because

they got

disqualified

from

qualified

no chance

and it's called

one

point

are you

joking

Williams

got a point

one

point

yeah

this

this is

arguably

like

their

worst

circuit

and they

got a point

no

relax yourself

right

this

is

100%

it's not

going to the

comments

by the

regulations

I am taking this

to the comments

people will

people can

say their opinion

of whether

Williams

both being disqualified

and qualifying

and then

color-scoring

one singular

point

so please

let us know

how you feel

about this one

I know

Tommy feels

very strongly

about this

but look

that's fine

this is why

we have listeners

so

get involved

get in touch

and we'll see

okay

what the

what the thoughts

are

and that's the step

and

biggest flop

that's the point

for me

because

he won the last

two races

in a second

so

I love

you've actually

written

I love

you've actually

written a point

as well

makes you

know

you are

fuming

right now

but remember

Tommy doesn't care

about who

wins the

championship

let's go

to a

pole

position

where I went

for

Lando Norris

which was

incorrect

I went

for Oscar

Piastri

incorrect

in third

position

I went

for

Oscar

and I went

for

George

Russell

I

I didn't

forget about him

but I

didn't

hype him up

enough

put him too

low

yeah

in second place

I went for

Lando Norris

I went for

Oscar

Piastri

and then in first place

I went for

Max Verstappen

so I

in fact

I got

first

second and third

a second

third fourth

so

I just

forgot

George Russell

otherwise

I would have

scored

three points

George

why don't you

DNF

for God's sake

and I

went for

Lando Norris

okay

to zero

points

on the top

three

that's

crazy

that's

crazy

behavior

for us

we promise

we are

completely finished

let's go

to our

crazy

prediction

so

mine

which

I thought

at one point

might have

come in

you might

been

zero yellow flags

which

I mean

why didn't I

just go

for no safety car

like

why did I

just decide

I don't get

any extra points

for going

just on the

fly

didn't you

that's

one ridiculous

prediction

what I just

went for

not even

crazy

I'm gutted

I'm

kicking myself

and if I

lose by

one point

I'll know

exactly

where I

lost it

mine

was

the first

non McLaren

is over

30 seconds

off the

laid

I really

really went

on this

McLaren

hype train

in the championship saver

for Max

but

well

third

and there was

one McLaren

on the

podium

one McLaren

on the

position

yeah

now

our

Patreon

prediction

this is

where you

can get involved

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mine

was

Jensen's

listening

with incredible

Hulk

returns to

the points

qualifies

11th

he's fighting

for a point

then

he gets his

front wing

ripped off

and then

spins off

so

not only did

Hulk

I know

there had been

another yellow

flag

by the way

there had been

another yellow

flag

glitch about

lap 14

but Hulk

then decided

I'm going to

remove myself

from the

equation of

points

and

produce a

yellow

flag

so

thank you

so much

Niko

for costing

me

two points

potentially

yeah

I think

you can have

your Williams

prediction

and I'll give you

minus two

for

for that

one

minus two

you're getting

minus a hundred

then

for Baku

my

prediction

was

the

Lewis Hamilton

gets his

first

podium

in honor of

Roscoe

by

Jack

which

did not happen

did not

happen

at all

sadly

okay

family

top

three

the constructors

championship

that not

as many people

care about

but still

before we

very

before we

do

that

so

you potentially

either got

one point

or three

question

three

no

and then

what did you get

now

stop

saying no

let them

I got none

the whole

the whole thing

yeah

are that

graphic

on social

is going

to pop off

you

you're just

going to have crying

faces

on every

single

I don't think so

it's terrible

no

no you absolutely

haven't

but

me scoring

three

will be great

thanks

thanks everybody

right

now

we had to

a family

top three

it's currently

eight seven

to the

boring

Bellingham's

now

the

this

this is going

to be interesting

so

my dad

in third

position

went for

Lando Norris

go on

and love

that from you

nice little point

my wife

went for

Oscar

Piestry

in P3

second place

my dad went for

Oscar

Piestry

incorrect

Katie went for

Max Verstappen

which

is

correct

she

she seals the fact

she's got

more

more points

than I did

for a

top three

and in first position

my dad

went for

Max Verstappen

he said

there was no

stopping him

and

George Russell

stopped him

and

my wife

went for

Lando Norris

which

was

of course

incorrect

so it's

the same

as before

it's the same

nine

eight

nine

eight to the

Bellingham's

I haven't

have the Gallagas

ever lead

I don't think

we have

the entire

season

but it doesn't matter

as long as the

last race

I'll be

fielding

my strongest

team

which

will not

be my sister

I can promise you

that she's had

one appearance

and

that was

that was great

right

that

is

it

we have

reflected on

a lot of things

big shout out

actually

as well to

Ollie Bearman

great drive

from him

P9

got absolutely

everything he could

out of that

has

to score

a couple of

points

especially

when he is

carrying

the weight of

potentially

getting banned

if

he crashes into

anybody

or does

anything silly

so

well

onto

my

final

thoughts

are

why do I

have to

wait

at

like

a couple of weeks

to the next

race

because

yep

hype for

Austin

a sprint

as well

so we

get straight

into the

the

action

on Friday

which

we love to

see

so

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