The Smoking Tire Mar 26, 2026

Singer* DLS Drive; Volvo E30 Review; Wesley Snipes; Q&A

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Heckler and Koch

Heckler & Koch is a real gun company that makes firearms used by militaries and police. If a movie gun is based on their prototype work, it’s drawing from something that actually existed in some form.

Concept

pre-auction estimate

Before the auction, the seller gives a guess about what something might sell for. Bidding can still push the price way above or below that guess.

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car fax

Carfax is a report that shows a car’s history, like who owned it and whether it was ever reported for accidents or service. People use it to check if the story about a car matches what actually happened.

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identity theft

Identity theft is when someone steals your personal information and uses it to get money or credit in your name. It can take a long time to fix.

Part

heated seats

Heated seats warm you up while you drive. It’s a comfort feature that can make a big difference in cold weather.

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heated steering wheel

A heated steering wheel warms up the wheel so your hands don’t get cold. It’s a comfort feature that’s especially nice in winter.

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adaptive shocks

Adaptive shocks are suspension parts that can change how firm or soft the ride feels. The goal is to be comfortable but still handle well.

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one pedal driving

In one-pedal driving, you mostly use the gas pedal to slow down. When you lift off, the car slows itself using energy recovery, so you may use the brake less.

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climate control

Climate control is what keeps the car’s cabin comfortable—heat, A/C, and fan behavior. They’re saying it wasn’t easy to adjust the way they wanted.

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two different climate menus

They’re saying the car’s climate settings are spread across more than one screen. That makes it harder to change things quickly when you’re driving.

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wireless phone chargers

Wireless phone charging uses electromagnetic induction instead of a physical USB cable. The speaker criticizes performance, noting it doesn’t charge well and can overheat the phone, which can be a common real-world issue depending on the charger and phone.

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wireless charging

Wireless charging means your phone charges on a pad in the car without plugging in a cable. If the phone moves a little, it may stop charging.

Car

BMW M2

They’re saying the BMW M2’s wireless charging can be annoying because the phone can shift. When you hit a bump, charging can suddenly stop.

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range

Range is how far the car can go before it needs charging. They’re saying the range is good, which makes the car easier to live with.

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raw carbon

“Raw carbon” means carbon fiber that’s left exposed instead of being covered up. It’s common on expensive cars because it can look cool and help keep weight down.

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traction control system

Traction control helps prevent wheel spin. If the tires lose grip, it adjusts power and/or braking so the car stays controllable.

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engine maps

Engine maps are the computer’s “rules” for how the engine responds. Changing the maps can make the car feel smoother, more responsive, or more predictable.

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zero to sixty

Zero to sixty is how fast the car gets from a stop to 60 mph. The hosts are basically saying that number isn’t the only thing that makes a car great.

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turbo

A turbo is a device that squeezes extra air into the engine so it can make more power. Some people like the punch, others prefer the simpler feel of non-turbo engines.

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perfection is expensive

“Perfection is expensive” is the idea that reaching the very top of engineering performance and refinement costs disproportionately more. At extreme levels, improvements require expensive materials, complex development, and extensive testing. The speaker ties this to why the “best” version of a car can be extremely costly.

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crank windows

Some cars roll the windows by hand with a crank. It’s not electric, so you feel the mechanism as you move the window.

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rpm

RPM tells you how fast the engine is spinning. When you’re driving hard, you want to keep the engine in the RPM range where it makes the most power.

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forge or cast your blocks

They’re talking about how the main engine structure (the block) is made. Casting is like pouring metal into a mold, while forging uses pressure to shape metal—both are expensive steps in engine building.

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cash on the hood

“Cash on the hood” is just slang for having money to spend. They mean if you’ve got the budget, you can get the better version of the car.

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gas prices

“Gas prices” refers to the cost of gasoline per gallon, which directly impacts how expensive it is to operate a vehicle. The hosts are using a hypothetical scenario (gas rising to a specific national level) to estimate changes in annual fuel spending.

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hybrid

A hybrid powertrain combines a gasoline engine with an electric motor/battery to improve fuel economy. In this segment, the hosts use “hybrid” to explain why a Camry hybrid and an F-150 hybrid would experience different changes in annual fuel spending as gas prices rise.

Concept

EV

An EV is an electric car that runs on electricity instead of (mostly) gasoline. The segment is about whether it makes financial sense to switch, especially if government incentives change.

Term

Pirelli

Pirelli is a well-known tire brand. The point here is that if enough people need tires for older cars, companies may start making them again.

Brand

Bosch

Bosch is a company that supplies car parts to lots of different manufacturers. If you find the Bosch part number, it can help you locate the same part for other cars.

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JDM

JDM means the car was built for the Japanese market. The tradeoff is that it can be more complicated to own in the U.S. because parts and mechanics may be harder to find.

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right hand drive

Right-hand drive means the steering wheel is on the right side of the car. That can be different from most cars in the U.S., so it’s something to think about before buying.

Term

head gasket

The head gasket is like a tight seal inside your engine. If it breaks, the engine can overheat or mix fluids, and it can become a big (and expensive) problem.

Concept

camera safety placement

This is guidance on how to stage filming for high-performance driving: keep the camera out of likely crash paths (outside the corner/impact zone) and avoid positions where a slide could loop toward it. It’s a practical safety concept for motorsport media.

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TST all right folks on this episode of the podcast we review the Volvo ex 30 and the

Singer DLS. Oh wait. No, I can't say that. It's the Porsche

964 reimagined by singer as part of the dynamics and lightweight and study

Commission did I get that right? Please don't sue me also. I don't buy

Wesley Snipes's gun. It's the smoking tire podcast. Let's go. I

Don't believe you well. I'm a little sleepy, but we're technically alive. Did you get the new COVID?

No, hot shit. Do you know? Oh, I don't know. I wonder if Sarah did

Because I just I saw a story yesterday. There's like new hot COVID coming in. There's always like new varieties

All right, but like you guys you guys got like COVID

Like the last time we went boating that yeah, we did you got one point one point. Oh beta

That was a lot worse. Yeah, it was like a your COVID was like a Cybertruck Foundation series. It was pretty bad. Oh good

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That's fine. I hope it was because you were working for me. No

Uh, okay a lot to talk about on this show. I drove a singer DLS. That's worth talking about

but but but first

but first I

Almost recklessly spent money this morning. Mm-hmm. I attempted to recklessly spend money this morning

But it didn't go well, but my sensibilities kicked in Clapman. Okay happened

I had I'm on a text thread with some of my friends from back east and

I was like to them this morning. I was like, all right guys, this is gonna sound a

leadest and douchey

But you're my friend so I can say this to you

What is an appropriate amount of money to spend on Wesley Snipes's gun from demolition man

to hang in my bathroom like what where do you draw the line of

This is too silly and you should not spend the money and this is you know a

Funny thing that's awesome and like worth having. Do you have a photo of the gun? I gotta find it

It's it's his it's his future gun

Keep going keep going keep going keep going keep going keep going keep that oh

The magnetic accelerators. It's the it's the only gun in the movie. That's really

Like crucial to the plot. It's like the future gun that yeah

Well, the other ones are just normal fire

Yeah, so on top of this on top of it being a crucial prop to the plot of the movie

It's also based on an a heckler and cock

Prototype of a gun that was never made well, so it's actually got some sort of double history

And I don't you know like you know me like I don't like collect guns like if this wasn't the devil

I didn't you're so so anyway, what what do you think?

You know, you know me and you know, you know, what what is what is an appropriate amount of money?

Yeah

Prototype do I

Why don't I know how much you spent on the printer thing can I have that for context? I didn't buy the printer thing

Oh, I didn't win. Oh, wait. No, what do you have you mean the dead the the

The thing that printed out this the fines. No, I I was gonna bid up to like four or five thousand dollars for that

I thought that I thought that was silly

It was but it went for 16

Yeah, yeah, well I asked my friends back east

Which and these are not friends. No, no these this isn't I do have some rich friends back east

But those friends are not on this text message

But my friends on this text message are regular fucking working stiffs and they do all right

But they're like regular people one of them said 200 grand. I was like, I was like, what are you fucking nuts?

I was like, I was thinking five and he was like, oh

spend away

Yeah, he was like I had to buy something dumber than that to put in my living room that you know, no, you know

So whatever

I mean like once you become a homeowner you start buying weird shit for your house and everything is really expensive, but like

Okay, I five for you know

And because of the the printer for context that helps me I think this is it has more value than the printer, but

Well, the printer the the root the printer

$800. Yeah, no, no, I thought that's what kind of what I thought I don't get this like two grand

You know, but like and I was gonna turn it then turn it into the toilet paper dispenser, which I thought is hilarious

That's a good idea. No, definitely that didn't happen. So all right, so five

Yeah, so I told Hannah I would be in up to four

right, okay

the pre-auction estimate was like a

1500 to 2500, but you know, I'm sure this went for like

200 because it's big. Yeah, it's a gun and there's people out there

You know, yeah, I have a lot more disposable income

It didn't go for 200 and you can and you can stand it upright and light it and put it in your fourth foyer

Shit, right six figures. No, no, no, but after telling Hannah that my highest bid was gonna be four

My actual highest bid was nine

And then it's sold for 15 plus buyers premium

So it was really like 17 five out the door how people people were as excited

I'm actually maybe encouraged by society. They were as excited about this as they were about the printer

They sold for the same money. Yeah, that's bananas to me

There was some other great stuff in this auction too as a big prop master was retiring and like selling off his collection

There was some wild shit in there, dude

The fucking Wilson volleyball from Castaway went for like a hundred and eighty thousand dollars

Yeah, how many I'm sure they had more than 12 set. There was 12 balls. There were 12

Lord, yeah, people need to pay higher. No, but there's like, yeah, of course, of course, of course, but like there's you know, like

Look, if you're gonna go buy

Have you ever tried to buy it like art art? I mean probably not but like once yeah

And and you look at something and you go this is nice

How much is this and they go it's $35,000 and you go?

I'm sorry. What the fuck this is by somebody that I haven't heard of and you go well

I haven't heard you haven't heard of them yet, right?

And you go eat a fucking dick for it if it and look this is funny money for the vast majority of people

I don't have $35,000 art on my walls

But I've been in those stores before where I go this looks nice

How much is this and they go it's $27,000 and you go fuck right off. I expect you to say 500 bucks

Yeah, and like I'm not trying to insult artists

I know it takes materials and time and creativity like okay, and if you can get it. Oh God fuck in was

but for my

Whatever equivalent dollar

Yo, that's Wesley Snipes is gone from demolition man. That's that's a better more fun thing to have my house

I agree with that completely

There's also an auction coming up man. It's a little cheaper something more affordable for you perhaps the Stallone

Pre-pro photo it's a hundred dollars. I'll tell you what put you on a payment plan

You know what I wish I bought instead that was like ten lots before mine in the auction

the

One of the five back to the future to your fired faxes mm-hmm went for like thirty two hundred bucks

and I mean still you're talking about an eight and a half by eleven piece of paper that appeared in a movie but

Iconic scene sure iconic film it fits in a small frame on your wall

You know and that's a that's a pretty cool

Conversation piece for the vast majority of people between the ages of 35 and 50. I feel like we could find where that's exactly

all again

You could buy you get a replica on Etsy for 20 bucks, but that's not that's not no, but you need the same thing

I don't actually want the print. Oh, yeah

Yeah

Not I if you could get it like that like hanging out of that printer that could be kind of fun

You know, yeah, but machine back. Yeah, but other than that

I mean you kind of want you got the real there. It's gotta be the real thing is a story like so depends on what yeah, of course I

Like I like I like real things. I wouldn't I wouldn't want to get true. You don't like replica cars

I don't like replicas of of

Stuff and I know I have that relic fake-age McCready. We talked about that my guitar like

Okay, I'm not a perfect fucking consistent person, but like in general if you can have

The real thing I wouldn't fill real McCready guitar would this is right. It's no price. That's that's that's not happening

Yeah, but in general I like the real stuff. Okay. Yeah, but but anyway, man if you were

Not even like insanely rich, but kind of rich and

Just wanted to fill your house with some awesome stuff that auction was fucking chock-full of shit. Wow fucking

Quints like harpoon gun from jaws like pretty like there was a hub. There was a hoverboard

There are actually two hoverboards one was screen used and one was a promotional used

There was like a bunch of the hoverboards were like, you know, dude, if you're a

$100,000 that's a good ROI as a prop master like you've got this thing you made it for whatever you've got paid to make it

Mm-hmm, and then you sit on it for 40 years and then sell it for a hundred times what it cost to make

It's movies good. Yeah, they were saying apparently, you know some movies

They were making them like fast and they had to like destroy a lot of the props to like just clear out the storage room for the next

Movie that was coming in and so they just like burned half of it

So like there was a few movies and I forget the exact list, but like where

Just stuff from them is incredibly rare because they like just literally burned all of the props when they were done shooting

Yeah, damn dude. It was neat. I want to see so

Well, okay under my no

but so and also

You know last show we talked about this thing with the was it last show we talked about the thread from Wren List

Was that last show? Was that two shows ago?

All right

Well our friend Rob Dietz Wab who was sort of dragged into this as part of a dealer

He responded to the thread. He said it. He said it's me to read and

It it really made me think that we maybe

jumped the gun by

Talking about it on the show and spreading that it existed because

Although he didn't he Rob

Dietz who was Wab?

Wasn't able to literally debunk every single point in it

he was able to debunk enough of it that it made me question the rest of it and

Question the rest of it like to the point of like being like I feel a little guilty that we talked about that without

Maybe following up on some sources ourself first like I feel like I feel like we glint a lot of a lot of like

potentially undue credence to the thing to the idea that what was in it was fact and

Some a sum of it could be fact but like a whole bunch of it is not and in fact what in a sort of hilarious example

One of the accounts that's accused of being a car dealer that's buying these cars

Is literally the guy who bought my NSX who I know personally is an individual like who is friends with not just

Wab Rob Dietz also because he it was funny because he bought my NSX and he bought a car from from Rob

And we put them on the same truck together

We coordinated shipping to this guy and that guy's also friends with Rob freddy because Rob freddy sent me a text

From this dude with like a photo like hey, man. Look I bought Matt's NSX. So like it's like it's a guy

It's not a dealer. It's like a fucking dude. So like and you know

I can personally prove that one of these people

Actually is the user that bought my car and isn't a dealer like so

He posted a very lengthy and detailed response to this thread

and

And and I'm not saying that the nothing in it is true and I'm not saying I'm certainly not saying that everything in it is true

But I think maybe before we talked about it

We should have probably followed up a little bit better. I think that's kind of my bad

Yeah, I think we talked in the car like if we're writing an article you have a longer more time between

Story breaks and you publish story. Yeah, you you would be almost required like by the magazine to go check a bunch of sources

With this stuff, it's like the story pops up four hours before we record

Yeah, and we and a lot of other people who are not news networks

And this is the benefit of news networks as they have these like journalistic requirements is we're like

Oh, we're talking about this thing and like we'll see how it develops, right?

There's a lot of content in like let's report on it as it develops, but it does leave the story a bit one-sided until

Yeah, Bob reaches out. Yeah, so it it seems like

Not a hundred percent debunked, but like pretty substantially debunked

Debunked enough to know that I we probably shouldn't be treating it as fact

or certainly not as like

Really hard evidence of a direct thing though

He would have to come back with more evidence because like he referenced he made an app in his

Whatever they did it got a lot of the orders of ownership wrong

It got a lot of the end users wrong

Hmm, and if you just look at the car faxes of those specific vins

You can see that a lot of those vins do end up at end users and are not like still in these dealer inventory

like you're implying and like if you

Some of the things got the order of ownership wrong and so like

There was an owner here, and then it went to a dealer and then do another owner like it. It's it was just like

Not it's see and and and and look again. I

Didn't personally go through every car fax that Rob put in in his response

He put a very thorough response. You can go read it or not

But it it it casts enough doubt

You know in a way that the two the two ones that I did look into we put links to the fucking things the two

I looked into

Did back up his version of the events? So

You know I would say that it's

Substantially debunked if not totally Wow, okay. Yeah

So anyway, that's like I felt like it was important. I think it's very probably with that

I we can't go back and change a previous episode so much

Although we could put a little thing in the podcast and in the notes

I suppose are the comments on YouTube, but but at least we can as we find out some updated information, you know

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Get some pictures EX 30. I gotta go take some pictures of this thing before it goes back

But there it is the EX 30 dead car rolling

What's funny is that they were gonna bring a single motor car here. They cancel that yeah this here and then they cancel this yes

Zack you've been driving it for two days. I drove it for three days before that. Do you have some thoughts? I have notes? Yeah

There they are

Let's see overall I like it you do like I do like it there are imperfections absolutely and we will get to those but

Well, I liked it more when I thought it cost the thirty six thousand dollars the single motor was supposed to cost this

You know dual motor only this has a couple of nice things on it heated steering wheel heated seats

It's like 49. Yeah, which is the average price of an EV in America, but like that's a lot of money

Yeah, it's the same or maybe more than Machi

I think it's more than some more than some Machi's for sure more than the dual motor model 3

But it's cheaper than the model 3 performance sure that has like those like 55 and has adaptive shocks and all

But yeah and way more horsepower, but this thing's got 400 horsepower. I think it's quick

It's it's very quick. Not only is it very quick the norm to me the normal

You know, it's got like eco mode normal mode and sport mode

I think the throttle is a little too sensitive in normal mode

I like I prefer to drive it in eco mode or range mode all the time

I actually like the a little bit dumber throttle that the in normal mode the throttle is fucking it sharp

It's pretty quick. Yeah. Yeah, and when paired with a one-pedal drive

I think the it's can be a little jumpy when you hit a bump it can make

Jaguar jerk the jack

That's funny that is a Jaguar jerk. There's a crazy people reference, right too

And jobs really know for women you hardly know

but but it

What really drives me nuts about this car is that it abs it reverts to standard every reverts to its own mode every time

Like full a dash back on every time you restart the car lane keep assist all that back on every time you start the car

And even if I leave the car in range mode it restarts in standard mode

It doesn't stay in range mode the Mach-E if I put it in range mode would stay there until I took it out of range

Did that only happen? Does that happen with Mach-E press cars or only when you owned it and you'd like use your app

No, I never for three years. I use fobs as a key. I never once used my phone and then point against for sure

Dude, there's this fucking full-on binary that's about to start happening with these cars where it's

Does the car stay?

With the a-dash off and and sort of how I left it or does it fucking not and man

And every car is failing even if it was gonna always revert to a-dash because they'd be like it's safer blah blah blah

Why wouldn't it stay in the range mode you want? Yeah, that's really weird change. That's really strange

Things I like it's also smaller than the the Mach-E of a bolt

Yeah, I like the compact footprint actually I found it easy to drive blah blah blah blah

I thought I thought it steers pretty good. I got used to the squeal the square wheel

I wonder if with the square wheel stuff if they just looked at how most drivers operate cars and they go

All right, you're mostly going straight you take one a turn

That's ten seconds of your life

Then you're going straight again because the wheel feels like it's designed to be comfortable going straight

Like people that rest their hand on the top the bottom whatever

Yeah, but then when when I go I went around about the steering ratio is not quick enough right where I had to get pretty

Crossed up, but I want to test it like can I just turn this 90 degrees like a Ferrari?

No, I really crossed up

Yeah, you have to do a little hand-over-hand on these 90-degree angles not just that there's no gauge cluster in front of the steering

I least favorite thing which I can live with it's not my favorite, but I can live with it

But this is one of the very small places of places where I have to give Tesla credit

Tesla's

Interiors are spartan so they can be cheap

Fucking no question about that

But at least they have a very low cowl and you can put the steering wheel

Where the fuck ever because there's no gauges there like I like a low steering wheel and the fact that there's no gauges to block and I

Can actually have the steering wheel low where I like it. It's actually incredibly comfortable to drive this thing the steering wheels up here

Yeah, I see I sit

In a way where I have to sit pretty low with the seat almost all the way down if not down

And my head is a fist from the roof in this Volvo so one one fist so it's not like I'm sitting

Too low and need to sit higher right and where I sit and my head is up here by the roof

The steering wheel is up here with my hands have to be way too high

Even at its lowest position and if you put the steering wheel up to its highest position

It's like blocking my view

Thing so weird. I also noticed this has this does something that the old Tacomas did where when I get in the right position for my legs

I am sitting too far away from the wheel doesn't telescope enough right if I move closer my knee touches the dash

Which I don't like and then this thing has I think it has either a very large B pillar or

Because of the way the seating positions laid out and the dash to axle ratio

I found myself not seeing cars in the blind spot like it has a larger blind spot because I'm so close to the B pillar

Maybe that's why it has so right next to my head

I think but the the the blind spot monitoring light on the mirror is a little bit

Dim yeah, that was brighter and most cars I've driven like it pops out and I drove it today at noon

And I was like oh that light is flashing didn't like that

The one pedal driving was kind of weird you operate EVs far often more often than I do so one pedal

Had it in high region essentially high high whatever one pedal aggressive

That's a lot it was a lot

But I was like trying to time the lift off to come to a stop it alone

And I was coming up short a lot by a couple car lengths

I was getting used to it, but I noticed that if I tap the gas very lightly like oh, I need to move forward eight more feet

It would release the brake almost entirely and then just start coasting

And it wouldn't it didn't know that I was just trying to like move up a little like some other cars have

So then I would actually have to get on to the brake

Oh, so the region one pedal drive sort of stopped at creep speeds

It like cancels itself at creep speed

So there's a toggle on the car to turn creep on or off. Did you toggle it off?

I didn't fuck with that

But I know that when I've driven Mach-E and when I driven your tycon like

It either timing the one pedals easier or when it knows I'm decelerating like it feels like you're coming to a stop

The car seems to know it and if you give it a tiny like 1% of gas to just get

It'll just extend the mock it extends that the mock that one braking or the one pedal braking

So that was that just need a little bit of calibration. Yeah, I wonder if you toggle off that the creep

That was a different. Yeah different thing, but um, I thought dynamically it was alright

Sure, I thought the rides pretty ride was decent. This is the suspension and the brakes were decent

I thought the handling was decent. It drove predictably. I like the small turning circle

But the the driving position with that steering wheel is really weird the eight-ass not turning off was really weird

And I thought the I don't like this Android-based tablet thing they use very much

I found it pretty easy to use like it it nested carplay in

The Android show pretty well. I did do that. Yeah, it did do that. I agree, but I think the I

Was surprised at I don't know. Maybe it was just really hot when we got in the car and I was like panicking

I didn't I found the climate control less intuitive than I wanted it to be. Yeah, the when it's on auto

It's just blasting and then when you switch you have to go and that's another thing with the whole like the tablet thing

You have to go there are two different climate menus the climate menu always sits at the bottom

Yeah, and I went okay. I want to turn the fan down. So I brought that menu up

There's no option for that right that out that menu only has like sink that the sides

Temperature, yeah, that's it see seats and steering wheel

You have to like go into the Android menu

Climate and that's where you can decide to put it into manual mode or eco mode

So that was where I was trying to figure it out the car had been sitting outside my house on the really hot day

It was like a thousand degrees in there. I'm trying to drive somewhere and

I'm like hitting that thing then where that where I think the climate thing is and it's like not bringing up the like max

AC or and and I set the temperature down to like 60 or whatever the lowest is and it's just going oh

Really just just I'm like what the fuck and it was it took me a long time to figure out

Oh, there's a second climate menu in here that I have to mess with so that once you learn that like okay

But like that's a let's take a little clunky

There's a little clunky

I wish you could just like pull up the way you can in a lucid and it would bring up the whole climate menu

It also has like the eight ass yawn patrol

Where so I I got in the car today

I'd been in the car for three minutes and I yawned and it goes bling and says do you need to take a break?

Yeah, it's like the car's been operating for three minutes. Yeah all day

Oh, it's just because it's detecting where your eyes are and what your mouth is doing. It's shockingly fast for a little thing

You know 60s three and a half seconds. Yeah, I we're driving the M2 CS at the same time

And I swear to God up to about 80 the Volvo beats the BMW

Especially when you consider like traction and things like that like there's almost no way

Zero to 80 that BMW beats this little Volvo like it's not fucking happening

but

We're talking about the air conditioning windows. Oh, yeah, but it's it's just

There's some things about it. They're weird that it kind of bug me

The position of the steering wheel to me. Maybe it fits someone else's body, but it doesn't fit mine

I was kind of bummed like the the center console, you know, you can hide the cup holders and they pop out

All right fine when you hide them

It's just this giant open space like it's like the Cybertruck. Yeah reach all the way to the floor. Yeah, and then it has this

Shelf angled shelf that can hold your phone. I guess what's the wireless charger, but it's like iPad sized dude

You know in general I've now found the the M2 CS, which I think we'll talk about really next show

this car a

Couple other cars. I've driven recently have really devoted an awful lot of real estate space to wireless phone chargers

The don't charge my fucking phone very well, they don't work

They're just they make my phone really hot and like best case scenario if I'm like

Using Google Maps and playing a podcast best case scenario level. Yeah, it keeps it level

Yeah, yeah, you're gambling and going to work and you're just breaking it every day. Yeah

Whereas what I'm plugging in my phone to a USB see

It's actively putting juice into the phone totally keeps it well

We'll get it from 20 to yeah in a reasonable amount of time and this is an ongoing problem

We've had wireless charging out now for I don't know six years

Yeah, and that was a problem in the beginning is if your phone moved it all it would it would disengage it that still happens

Very few companies went with some sort of holder that kept it in place and and then even so

Other than what we say Porsche

No one has a cooler for the phone so it can only charge at a certain rate, which is pretty low

It feels like a gimmick that they sell people and the people that buy the cars for the first time with wireless charging have never

Experienced the hell of it and then they go. Oh cool

And then they try it but they can't return the lease and they go ah fuck it stinks terrible

Yeah, it stinks in fairness to Volvo. There is a thing that holds the phone in place. So if it's once it's charging

It's not like flopping around

in the BMW M2

It was flopping around. It's just it's it sits there and you hit a bump and all of a sudden you're not charging anymore like yeah

That's it's mad annoying dude. So most of the things

about the BMW M2 that I did not like our

our

Manufacturer-wide, you know software type

Issues, you know what I mean like like that not not necessarily dynamic issues although next week when we talk about that car

We'll talk about a few of those there. There's cars not perfect dynamically. There are some notes

But the Volvo yeah, I thought it's pretty fun

It's nice to have a Model 3 option that I think is pretty good. It's just got cancelled because of EV incentives

So yeah, I mean you may be able to get one on the cheap maybe and if that's the case like you know have at it

Because the range is good the power is great

It's if it fits your body, then I like that it's a

Luxurious feeling car in a small free damn adjustable. Yeah, sorry to cut you off. No, no

I didn't learn the lumbar adjustments are hidden. Yeah, you got to tap the button. Yeah, I didn't it took me two days

I was like, why is there no lumbar?

I think I only know that because of the Volvo V90 I drove over Thanksgiving same thing like that square holds all the keys

So if you tap it, you know, it's a multits

What is it like a 12 function 12 functions hidden within one button? Yeah, so you got to know how to operate that device

It took me a minute to be like why why is my lumbar like not right on this and that's why

But but thank you to Volvo for letting us letting us have a go

Maybe next time don't kill the model before our test and we will do more covering it

I mean, I think they didn't want to but forces larger than them, right now the

Dynamics and light-weighting study

Porsche 964

Reimagined by singer. I think I've pronounced that

Porsche 964

Reimagined by singer as part of the dynamics and light-weighting study

Maybe I feel like your lawsuit proof now. I think I'm pretty lawsuit proof

Most people would just know the letters DLS and know what I'm talking about

Finally got to have a go. It was a short go. It's not a real

I wasn't not it was you know, I'm pretty in tune with cars

I don't I don't need a super long go to know what amazing is

So Maz from Singer I saw him at Malibu

I was with Christian hand in the Manx and Maz was like, oh, I really want to have a go in the Manx

And I was like, you may have a go and he tosses me the key and I was like, oh nice light key

He's like, yeah, you think that's like where do you feel the car? And I was like, oh, oh, okay

so the Christian fucking get in let's go and

Man I understand I I understand I

would I would I

Would really think about compromising my morals for one of these fucking things for sure

You know that that meme that's like money can't buy happiness, but it can buy a jet ski

You don't see unhappy people in a jet ski. It's that it's that exact thing and it's like

Yeah, so you just build up a business get like 10,000 employees and then just like fire half of them pocket the money

And then you have one of these like, okay, cool can do that

Well, so the last singer we drove was the turbo right right so turbo is me comparison

The ultimate daily right if you're super fucking rich that turbo

Isn't a weekend car from you. You drive that all the time, right? Like that's

That's like the best thing about all this but in a package with like

Fabulously light clutch and could just could just every yeah, it's the perfect blend of old car and new car flavor

Yeah, it's like and it's like if you had

The the lightness of inputs of a brand new Cayman

But in this old looking car that has like 500 horsepower and rips like that's kind of what that you know

But modern turbo throttle response. Yeah, so good

This is like the weekend version of that where like what you know with this motor this four cam motor

That's like co-develop with Williams when you like blip. Yes, it revs to nine

But like when you just do the blip it's like that

You know what I mean like the like some motors when you rev them

It's not how they open. It's how they close. You know what I mean

You know I'm like well, there's a flywheel aspect to that. There's yeah, but they the throttle body

Lower than the accelerator right right most most motors even high performance ones if you go, they'll come down a little slower this

Comes down at even faster than it goes up. It's a free. It's like a free-wheeling engine almost

So it's you know, if you've ever heard like a fucking leader bike like an s1000 or whatever

Those that those really fast like like fast fast revs like

Think f1 car or think think that yes, it's like that and so

You either have to shift really quick or you have to like feather the throttle a little bit in between gears because the engine

Has feels good as like no weight of its own

But the inputs, you know just like that turbo or like perfect shifter feel just perfect just across the board every input

It's perfect the ride quality is like exceptional because it's like so light

It doesn't need to run a ton of spring. It has sheer own brakes

It weighs like just over half of what a sheer-owned weighs and has sheer-owned brakes

Is that just because the brakes that are on the sure-own are they AP racing are they just so good?

Oh, they're giant carb. They're the biggest carbon ceramics that you could fit in this car

Think there is a bigger one, but you need to run like 22 inch wheel. I'm just wondering and obviously the engineers that singer

Know what they're doing like why does it have the brakes of a 4,000 pound car?

I think because they're the best that you can buy you never have too much break. Yeah, I mean and it has it has incredibly advanced

Calibration, I mean the whole thing is like, you know, it's a tube like a proved car

manual steering or

It's not it's not manual. I don't I

Couldn't tell you what type of pump it is, but it is not a manual steering rack. The effort is too easy

My guess is it would be an a motorsport based one like they were using in the 993

race cars

Something similar to that

Which is also what Gunther uses on the turbos

Excuse me, but um

You just you just every input and like every

Vibration that you feel is a good one and every bad vibration that you don't want to feel isn't there

You know like and it's you can see all this raw carbon

But it doesn't feel like those

Hypercars that feel hollow because they're made of raw carbon where you hear all the gravel and stuff like it's somehow both

expertly insulated and

incredibly light and like

Dude, I wound out third gear to nine. I don't know how fucking fast I was going

But it was like really fast and then just like stood on the brake pedal and it stopped like a like a cone exit

Yeah, just yeah, just like yeah, this is all right and

Everything about it is exactly what somebody

That has been that knows what they're doing and was given an unlimited budget would do like it's like

And then just it's the most perfect car I've driven the turbo experience

Which this is probably like that if there's a a clarity to the sounds and experiences

It's like a perfect stereo. You know like you don't hear any little buzzes

You need you know if Christians ear was in front of the greatest stereo ever

Like that's what driving these is like both in terms of the sound but also the sensations

Yeah, we know what you want to feel and what you don't want to feel in here

And as it checks the correct box on every one of those items

Which is really really wild really wild

I mean you expect it. This is like you'd hope it's like a three million dollar car

Like if it's not all of that you'd go

You know, but it like

It has that same steering wheel that we love the perfect steering wheel from the turbo

It's I think it's a little more carbon-y in this one, but it's effectively the same shape

It has the same the same shifter from the turbo because they've used the they did this first

And they just and then they go we're using the DLS gearbox in the turbo now

So like this it's that and it has

What's really nice is be you know

Usually if like like 9-eleven ST or the or even the GT3 touring if you have that very light clutch

The car becomes like stallable

this

Had the very light clutch with the very revvy engine, but still not

Stallable like low-speed maneuverability

It wasn't like

Bucky and jerky you could kind of like ride the clutch a little bit and just smoothly moving and out of a parking space

Really nice. I wonder what they did to make that so perfect. They spent so much fucking time. Yeah, dude

They spent so much time on all those Calvi calibrations and stuff

There's like a I think it's a five-stage traction control system that knob right behind the shifter

There's all these different, you know, there's different engine maps and different like ABS maps

They really they they did a lot of like

Some stuff that was like really OEM grade and some stuff. That's really motorsport grade

Marino, you know did a ton of work test driving in and this was a then and Maz was very like

He was like this one's like this was our prototype. It's like not like finished right like it's not great

I'm like dude stop telling people that because like you obviously know what to look for but like

Whatever you think I'm seeing yeah motherfucker like I'm not seeing if this is the crappy one if the yeah

You'll take it off their hands

At a heavily discounted rate. Yeah, so it do do this thing was fast and

and just

All the fizz so so choice so fucking choice. I yeah

You want to you want to sell missiles to the wrong people to get one of these?

You know, you want to be like the fucking Paul brothers go to Puerto Rico not pay taxes talk mad shit

If there's a singer at the other end like I kind of get it at least

You know, there are cars that cost around this much money that are less perfect. I think cars like this

And I think you know come on excited is is similar to a degree like

They set the bar so that the other people that are trying to come up and sell in their market should do their best to meet it

Yeah, you know because this is what's available. Well, and what I really like about this is

when you

Whether you're driving it whether you're riding in it like

with a hypercar

It's what is the top speed what is the this what is the that what are the numbers?

Is it faster you?

Who the fuck cares what the zero to sixty of this is?

What's the top speed fuck if I know I don't know something they don't yeah, that's true

They don't want to talk about it. What's the difference? What's the difference it revs to nine?

And it makes you feel like you are a god

When you're driving it. That's what I'm talking about. Mm-hmm. I don't give a fuck what the zero to sixty time is

Probably not even that good. I wonder you know we get asked this question a lot. Will hypercars supercars start to

slow down

in the interest of driving dynamics and stuff like that and

It would take more than one company

but if if if all of the top-end companies

Started focusing on

Engagement and making the engines at 600 horsepower not 1200 1400 whatever like I think that does trickle down from the top because

When we were young it was all about getting faster more power faster more power. Well now we're there and we realize

It's not everything so maybe this will come because when we were young faster and more power

You're still shifting. You're still there's not a lot of computers. So

We didn't know at the time

That faster and more power would lead to technologies that took away from some of the fizz

I think that's partly true. I think it was also harder to make power especially like in the 80s and 90s

Oh, yeah, and now it's so easy once it wants the things are easy to get people don't care about it as much right right

So yeah

They this that seems sick the NA cars seem like the turbo ones are really fun

But I just like the response of NA the sound of it all of that. Yeah, I mean this is it's got cylinder heads

It's fucking made by a formula one. I mean that's the product

You know the engine is like it's that worth more than my entire net worth almost. Yeah, the engine's like 500 grand in these fucking

It's it's it's truly truly an exceptional piece of machinery and it's a shame that like

All of them aren't driven. This one's got 6,800 miles on it

It's a shame that they're not all all driven like that

But I you know, it's it's it's it's incredibly profitable to not drive one

But I would hope that if you had enough money to buy one that you would go

Like now that I've driven it like I go. Okay. Look, you know, you you gotta you gotta be fucking

Seriously loaded to have because to earn three million dollars

Legitimately you need to have to spend three million legitimately in this car. You need to have earned seven, right?

Like that's you need, you know

Legally, if you're if you're paying and some some rich people out there going lol. No, I don't but that not was standing like

That's a fucking ton of money to put into a car, but like man

You know, I wonder if people game over if you can afford this

It's probably a lot of people that buy these cars and they have 10 to 20 other cars

And they've got all the cool hypercar stuff

It would be it would be nice if these racked up more miles than the other stuff because this is focused on driver enjoyment

Yeah, I meant and you know would kind of pull them away from the big power figure

I mean, there's there are a few cars that I've driven most of which are

Porsches mainly because they're the last really

manual transmission cars around, you know, but it's like it's the

ST where you go and stuff like this stuff like that where you just go man, I could just stop right here and I

Maybe that's not true. Maybe you get there and it does that but I can I can't I can't imagine

Not being satisfied with something like that over a long period of time in terms of driving it

And like over a long how are fucking how are miles not worth the money in something like that that I don't get

I think they're totally worth I mean these are probably just going up in value. I'm sure because the waiting list

There's so huge view of these. Yeah Vin Anatra had a funny thing

He put out the other day like he wants to start shaming

People rich people who don't drive their cars and just be like, oh man

What could you not afford to put more miles on it? It's a great trick. That's pretty yeah, it's pretty good

I think it's not a ford to put more miles

You know someone's like because some people are proud of their low mileage whatever you're like

Oh, was it is it too expensive to drive this amazing, you know 458 or whatever. Yeah. Yeah

I wonder how you could spin that into a good t-shirt

There's probably a way to succinctly make that into a good t-shirt, but I like the idea as a concept

If you if it was like the Daniel Mack, but the opposite who's Dean the Mac

The what do you do for a living guy? Oh, right?

Right if it was the opposite of that like tell me about your car

How many miles are on it? Could you not afford to put more that that's actually a pretty funny gag

I like you just start with what do you do for a living?

They're like, oh, I don't like does it not make you enough money to drive this very often

It's like if someone has 20 50 cars like you know, they can't drive they can't put that many miles on something

But there's people out there that have

You know 15 cars. Yeah, they just let them sit. I mean look if you yeah, there's people that pride themselves on that

Yeah, there was that guy stupid. There was that guy that you know that had a

lot of vipers like a lot like like 20 vipers and

You know all but you know to word delivery miles and like yeah, he's he sold a few of them at a profit, but like

Was it it's like it's a lot of space and yeah tied up resources underperform the index. Yeah, yeah

Yeah, like you could have if you know, you could have all you could have doubled your money and you know

Seven years or whatever just fun some basic ass shit. Mm-hmm anyway

But this like this was this to me is a real example of

Fuck sometimes these really really expensive things are like super impressive and you got you want to fucking be like

There's no way that's worth it and you go look it after a certain point. It does get incremental

You know what I mean to go from and again, I realize the numbers are insane

But to go from one million in the turbo that we drove

To three million in this is it three times better?

No, absolutely not it's it's it's maybe 20% 25% right. It's like it's like it's just fucking it's just cranked up

But like when you get to that high level

Then getting to the even higher level within that is like very very difficult

Like the amount like that this car to me is the most quote everything is important car that I've driven from that company

Wow, that's like their sort of motto, but like

This is the one this is the first one we're even after like 10 minutes

I was like nothing about this could be better. This is just this is exactly the thing

So like I you know I get it I guess

They they probably perfection is expensive. It's fucking really expensive. Yeah, it's so expensive to make something the the best

I should say mechanical things that are perfect tend to be expensive. Yeah a

Lot of things that are natural things that are perfect or expensive

An ocean view a fucking diamond. I mean, you know, you name it natural things can be expensive

It's true. You can also just go, you know, it depends on your this is gonna get too subjective

But the the perfect expensive unique car is going to be expensive

Unfortunately, and this is just all the things turned up to 11 and the things you don't want turned down to zero

And all that shit that you didn't even know

You didn't want to be better

You know like

Like the like the crank the crank windows like it's this thing has crank windows

But the crank window mechanism is this beautifully like fucking made thing that it's

More satisfying to roll the window down

Using this thing than it would be if it had I'm sorry

I don't have a better picture of the crank window

But it's it's somehow better

To do it that way that it is to do it the other way because you get to use this beautifully made

You know machine. This is the turbo probably has power windows. I think but but it's just that it's that kind of shit

Let's see. Is there doesn't know if there's a DLS interior. Oh, that's the DLS. You're driving. Oh, is this the one?

Yeah, that's it mass products. That's Chris Harris driving at the ice race. Oh shit. Yeah, it was that the same car

They drove that they had the turbo but they also had masses car. Yeah. Yeah, so anyway, it it's

Not going to be surprising to many people to hear that this car is essentially the second coming of Jesus Christ, but

Sometimes shit is dude. It's like that's

That an engine that like is in a car

But feels more like a motorcycle engine is like a pretty wild thing

Yeah, you know, especially when like it's it's powerful enough to actually make because with the four cam head

It can have a torque cam profile in the lower half of the it's like v-tech

You know what I mean? So so like there's you drive around in this thing

That's like a racing engine, but but below

5,000 it does have some power you can drive around. It's not like dead so you can you can drive around and like

You know kind of rip the thing up to about four or five thousand rpm

Like you would do when you're just sort of driving normally and it's not like a dog or it doesn't like spotter or anything like that

And then you get into it and the thing comes on cam and it's holy fucking shit from five to nine

You better hang on to your balls, man. That thing is you're you're going

By the time it goes past eight you have to be ready on the brakes like you're

You're going faster than even you think you are is upshifting is timing the upshift hard because of how quickly the revs drop

if you if you're driving real fast and

Shifting it not like not like Fox body power shifting but like shifting it fast on the way up

You can match the revs appropriately, but with a with a with a proper lift if you're just

Just cruising around you do not you don't take your accelerator foot all the way off

You have to like catch the revs a little bit to shift slower

Otherwise it won't match quite right, but that's the same as the ST

ST was exactly the same as that. Yeah, or if you did a manual a manual swapped Ferrari 430

it would be just like that too or

What do you call it five nine nine, but like?

Yeah, that's a treat

Ten minutes was not enough, but it was also enough to go. That's it. That's the shit. How many how many t-shirts would we have to sell?

We'd have to like inherit, you know the money we'd have to have different parents even me

You know, I got I already I already won that lottery, but I'd have to win a bigger one somehow and

Or we'd have to like oppress a people

We'd have to like do crimes. We'd have to run a scam of some kind

Speaking of scams. No

No, absolutely not our Porsche giveaway will probably not get us a deal. It won't yeah, no

But it's right you got to drive it

I mean what a magical thing because it took what 20 years of this job to get to drive

The singer turbo I think yeah not and obviously didn't exist

But like it took that long to get a press car and so now mm-hmm jumping in and they've got more models come out

So this is good. You're in the door. Yeah, we know their crossover comes out

They have a they have an electric crossover coming out next. No, no, they've got like the no for China

They've got the you haven't seen it the singer the singer XR for be Yang Wang

Is it made by Volvo which is really made by it's outsourced to Geely. No, yeah

They also make a hell of a watch. Well, no, they've got a cabrio coming out

The convertible is really interesting. Did you see this? So they had the rear?

Structure essentially the firewall and the structure of the car

Behind the seats

Re-engineered with like a carbon

Insert that makes the structure of the convertible as rigid as the structure of the coop. Well, yeah, and they worked with

Shit, I forget who it was

They might they might have worked with the Lara or they worked with some

Some

It might have all I don't think it was Williams again. I think it was a different red bull

I think it was Red Bull they worked with Red Bull. I believe to

Make this carbon thing that reinforces

The drops into the open. Yeah, basically they removed the firewall and they removed the floor of the car

the floor pan of the car and they replace it with this carbon cell that

That creates a much more rigid structure. I think if you scroll down it says it shows the thing

It shows the piece

Somewhere

No, maybe not

And it looks pretty rad though, doesn't it say a good time? Yeah, I'm sure it's fun

But I'm just saying there look they got five models available Matt. Yeah

Classic turbo deal. Yeah, so, um, you know, thanks Maz. Love you

We had good things to say about the Manx as well

He said they'll the low-speed drivability and the throttle engagement was really good

Which for a weird engine is very hard to do

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Collabs and things that we're doing over here. Zack and I had a good creative meeting yesterday for our next collab

It's not a watch. I think it could be really fucking cool. It's really cool

I think it's fun and different and it's something I haven't really seen before

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We should have more on that one pretty soon, but it's it's that's gonna be really fun

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Can you zooms in please? I also interestingly zack went to went to get have my my eye exam

I went to have my eye exam because I thought maybe my reading glasses were getting less effective

and they said

Uh, my my right eye has changed by

Uh, point. I think 0.5

percent

And my left eye is the same as it was two years ago. So it seems good

I mean, it hasn't changed that much basically what they said is it's probably not worth me trying to get new glasses right now

Should probably wait another year and see if it changes a little more. All right, otherwise. I'm spending 500 bucks for uh

That's basically the equivalent of

All of the clothes I bought when I was a smaller xxl

That I've worn twice and I'm now an xl which feels really good

But now all these brand new fucking clothes are too big for me

And so it's real like I you know, I'm proud I feel good at my club

It's nice to be able to buy xl clothes really opens a lot of doors, but

But as close you bought they can't work. Yeah, I know it's not that I buy fancy stuff

But I buy quality stuff. So like, you know, I bought I bought like some nice sweaters and shit that like are now

I wore them once they're too big. I'm like, damn this fucking sweater was like 200 bucks, dude. I'm like, fuck

So I don't know what to do. I was listening to stave show and he said he's like somewhere in New York

There's a storage unit with plastic bins full of his old sweatsuits that go from 5x

To like whatever he is now and he's like, I don't have to do it that well

I was talking to my therapist this morning about this

Is it mentally healthy to get rid of all that stuff barring the cost or

Do I store it in case we see it again?

That's tough because if you get rid of it, you can go. All right, I'll never it's like throwing away

I don't know the life vest or whatever when you get to the deserted island, right? I'm staying here. That's when I was fatter, I mean

I kept

My skinnier stuff

In case I saw it again, right and I did yeah, but now that stuff is too fatter

Too too gone. So the question is I don't I don't I think it's bad omen to keep the fatter stuff

Yeah, a good motivation to keep the skinnier stuff if you go the other way

That's what you want because you want to be on the skinny stuff

You don't want but if you have this backstop, I don't want to backstop right that stuff, but there's a couple things that are like

Sort of expensive like sweaters and jackets where I'm like, ooh

I'd hate to have to buy

Big expensive sweaters and jackets again when I have brand new ones here

Can you make them like winter relaxing clothes?

Like you wear the jacket with a sweater under it because it's super cold out and you could but here's the thing

If you were once fat, you never again want to layer up in a way that makes you look fat. Okay

It's real. This is a bit of fat fucking psychology. Let me share with you. That makes sense. Yeah. Yeah

You don't want to bulk on your clothes to fit. Hannah was like Hannah was like and she means she means well

She doesn't know she's been petite her whole life. She doesn't get this. She was like

No, she's like just you just wear it oversized. I go oversized. Are you fucking crazy?

Oversight, you know how hard I've worked to not be wearing something oversized. I'm not just gonna continue with you

But what if that fashion like hip-hop, you know, 90s super oversized comes back in

If bell big devote comes back into fashion

That's what that's what he's my tailor said yesterday with the suits my dad

My dad gave me my dad has so many dope blazers. He ran Ralph Lauren

My dad has all the dope blazers in the fucking world

They doesn't wear anymore because he's retired

I'm now thin enough to wear his blazers. I'm like so stoked about this and I'm stealing his blazers left and right

he don't even know

except

He in his 40s

He's shrunk a little bit because he's old now, but he in his 40s

He was six five and I'm six two

So his blazers are a little long for me, but that you can't cut them

That's a problem is you can't shorten a custom blazer. It's just I can't really be done

And so I have all these blazers that have fit me like dope except they're a little too long

My tailor's like just keep them for five years. The fashion will come to you. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah

all right

AMG hammer time koon touch this says

Uh, I listened to your review of the lotus carlton from a couple weeks ago

And it got me thinking about what a powerhouse lotus engineering was in the 80s and 90s

Is that ironic? They haven't put their own engine in a car in over 20 years

Uh, I mean is it our engines are hard and I think lotus

Understood that their engines

Were not that good

And other people's engines might be better and they can focus on the things that they do well

I think it's also really expensive to build engines. I think you know to actually like

I don't know forge or cast your blocks and stuff like that. It's probably a really

Uh intense and expensive endeavor and lotus has never been that flush with money

Right. Uh, the hood left unlatched thoughts on j s s x as an alternative to major airlines. That's jet sweet x

I've flown it once

For certain legs pricing is only slightly more expensive than a major airline. You can bring a dog on it

We just like you bring a dog smaller terminals. You fly out of the private side

I don't hate it. I would fly it more

But I dude I am addicted to my delta status. I'm so addicted to it

I flying on american home from the bvi with no status

Bro, I can't live like this

There's no way it was also you know stat like the plane seemed old no screens. Yeah, no, so like cross continental flight

So I I would use jet sweet x a lot more if I wasn't so ingrained in the delta

Sphere

I need my miles. I then use my miles. I then I get all these upgrades for my status

I I then can use so so because of my because I fly so much for work

I get diamond status, which gets me upgrades

So like I can use an upgrade and effectively buy a coach ticket and get a first class ticket

Having said that if I couldn't do that I would

Shop jet sweet x for every flight if I did not have loyalty. It's dope

Seems nice. Yeah, it is dope. Yeah, it's prices

Very a lot like fly I looked up flying across the country is much more expensive than

Regular airline but on a short trip. Yeah, you can be pretty good and convenient our good friend and uh our good friend

My client and our and patron tony a

Loves jet sweet x he flies with his dog on jet sweet x all the time in cabin dog

Dog hangs on that's the thing is like they're just there with you. Yeah, dude my dream

I love it if I'm fucking

If I'm hanging out in let's just say delta comfort

Exit row, maybe someone sits down next to me the dog. Do you mind? I might yes

Let's fucking in the dog hang out with me. Can I pet the dog? Yes. There you go. You just made my flight better

Thank you. Please bring I know people hate dogs on flights, but not me. I like a dog

I feel like everyone smiles when the dog gets on the flight as long as it's a well-behaved dog

Gavin Sullivan says Maserati Gran Turismo versus Aston Martin v8 vantage thoughts

Two ways to play this one new cars and cars that are like

2013

Era cars. Yeah, very true. So let's start with 2013 era cars. My answer is clear Aston Martin

I agree 100 all day every day

Get a stick get an annual looks better better interior. I think at the time. Yep. Yeah, yeah

Definitely back in the day now today today

Brand new I'm actually driving the Vantage s this week, but we'll leave that one out of it

Let's say current gen Gran Turismo versus current gen vantage still going vant to also be it. Yeah

No, no, what I think the better question is no even then I was gonna say two years ago

Actually, yeah four years ago before the Vantage before the Aston updates to the interior

Sure, then it's a tighter race because the

I think the exterior of the Aston was not as pretty the interior was aging real bad

Maserati also wasn't that fresh, but that was closer

You know as

The grant as a new Gran Turismo given a sufficient cash on the hood

It's a two plus two. It's a little more relaxed and it's actually a very nice road. Definitely

It's also all-wheel drive. Yep, which depending on your climate may make a difference

It's really a cheap Porsche turbo if there's cash on the hood, which there should be

It's a cheap

No, it's not as good Bentley GT. Oh, okay. Yeah to cheap Bentley GT if there's cash on the hood. Yeah

Yeah, the Vantage is sport more sporting. Yeah

Dungeons and Dotsons

Is it possible these high gas prices might boost EV sales?

It is it is possible. We talked about this last show Americans seem to have kind of a

short

Attention span when it comes to it's literally come it seems to come down to

How are the gas prices at the very moment? I need a new car. Yeah, or the very moment. I'm buying gas, right

Um, uh, was it Jared Rosenholz? I send you the the website from Carbuzz. Yep

Shout out to him sent me an article after we talked about it for basically if gas went to four dollars a gallon nationally

versus what it was today

The average f 150 hybrid excuse me the average f 150 driver

That has a five liter v8 a new f 150

Would spend a thousand dollars a year more in gas than they're spending right now

Whereas if you have a Camry hybrid you would spend something like

$370 a year more than you were spending right now if gas went from

Where it is today nationally to four dollars a gallon

All right

I want to go to the table. There's the table, right?

And then here they had the second table which showed here we go. Yeah yearly fuel. So today

national average is

246 but last week it was

Oh, excuse me. I'm sorry

Uh, sorry today it would cost you

uh with today's fuel prices

The average driver

It would cost them 2468 dollars to fill up an f 150 for a year

Last week it would have only cost 2127 dollars. So just from last week to today

It'll cost you

$340 more this year to fill up your f 150

The difference in a Camry

Versus today versus last week is a thousand dollars 90 today

And 878 last week. So it'll cost you 211 dollars more this year to fill up your Camry hybrid

Right, then it then it just this week

Costs you more this week from last week

If it then goes to a four dollar national average

The Camry driver will spend 374 dollars more than today per year

Versus and the the f 150 driver will spend

1078 dollars. So

If gas goes to five dollars a gallon, it'll cost

$1464 to fill up your Camry for a year or $3,500 to fill up your f 150 for a year

Yeah, but you know back to the question and your point. I think

Like it's only been it's been like two weeks

So people might be a few people might be thinking about buying an EV and going oh, should I should have done that?

But for people to make a snap decision sell their car buy another car like it's a big effort

They're probably hoping as we all are for many reasons like the conflict ends and prices go back to right now

If this is seven months in and you know tens of thousands or thousands of troops are there and it's like

Oh, this is going to be an eight year situation

Then people might start thinking about switching to a hybrid or EV

But even then they're going to have to do the math on

How much more is this EV going to cost versus the car I have going to get a used one

Actually, David here was telling me that there was a poll star two on bring a trailer that went for like 12 grand

Yeah, that's an amazing buy. It is so in that case sure but buying a new car. It might be too expensive

So what would be very ironic to me would be if the trump administration spent a year

Assaulting the idea of EVs

Ensuring the tax credit goes away

Finding this loophole so that the public chargers aren't built

Only to enter us into an unforced war

Where gas gets so high that people are incentivized to buy EVs that would be

The most trumpian loop of bullshit, you know what I mean of the week

Yeah, yeah

fuck

I don't know but I

Love having an electric car right now boy fucking do I

Like walking to work

Yeah, well that too, right

Doug's the dog's the narrow that's good

When it comes to finding parts for older cars the coontosh for example

Are you exclusively looking for new old stock?

What if you can't find the parts you need our manufacturers required by law to produce parts for a certain period of time after the model is discontinued

I'll take the last part first Doug

Yes, they are and oftentimes they stop as soon as they're legally required true

I think outie makes parts for 10 years

After the cars stopped being made other cars as well

So I have had the privilege of not having to personally look for parts for the coontosh

Donnie did that

and now uh now that

I'm not working with Donnie anymore Damien is doing that and Damien's people are doing that

So fortunately, I don't have to do that

There are a pretty good

number of resources for both new old stock and just new

Parts for old Italian cars. I think they're expensive, but they exist

Now the hard one is Hannah's Nissan pow

that motherfucker because it's rare

it's old

And it's also not valuable enough that it's worth like

An industry popping up to service its needs, you know like

Like at a certain point Pirelli was forced to start making tires again, you know people bitched

And Pirelli had to start making tires for coontoshes and Diablos and LM double O2s

Which is great means now that we can drive our cars for a long time like we couldn't are we if we wanted to it was shady

But with a pow with with a pow like man, there's parts where like

You don't find that shit like it's because it doesn't exist anymore

Or you have to have something made or adapted. Um

you know so

Real quick Hemmings and shout out mic musto they did an article there actually is no law that exists that says in the united states

That says companies have to keep making parts. Oh, no way, but it seems like they I mean they do and I think agreement

Yeah, and this is also why you know

You type in a part number and it'll be the same Bosch number or the same whatever number as other cars

From other oems or other models. It's like

Car companies don't want to re-engineer or they don't want to have their suppliers re-engineer a solenoid or relay or window part

Every new car right like that's cost prohibitive for everybody. So they can keep it going

So it might seem like they're continuing to make parts for your car

Your model of car

But your part is probably in some other cars probably in some other cars. So that that's good

You know if it's more specific like the powell sure that's trouble, you know

Yeah, the powell no the powell is a weird one the powell is how I spent, you know

$1,800 having a genius diagnosed that my fucking blinker switch was fucked up, you know

Uh, what is that the end? No, no, no, no, no

Two cats one car. Oh no moving out of a city apartment finally getting a place that has a garage again

Uh, I want a vintage fun car help me narrow down my choices

I've got 50 grand a land rover defender as a daily and I live in south carolina

Okay, e30 m3

Datsun 280z

r32 skyline gtr

996 turbo 911 sc gen two or three viper

Good run. I there's a lot of value in this in these choices. Yeah a lot of value and you are in south carolina

Boy, are you fortunate south carolina? They don't give a no fox

R32 gtr. They don't give a no fox. Uh, japan is your oyster down in south carolina. You are good to go

So but here's the thing with south carolina not a lot of curves

Not a lot of corners

So you're really looking for a car that's going to be fun when you're cruising in straightaways and sweepers and things like that

I think that gets rid of the e30. That's a slow e30 m3 is gonna be out. It's gonna be out for sure 280z

Those bore me to tears. I can't I can't be interested in one of those

Personally, I can't

996 turbos

Are a good choice good choice for south carolina a 911 sc target. I love it in general

I don't think south carolina is the most interesting place to own that particular car

But I can't hate on it a gen viper

Now we're getting I think a gen gen two or three viper

Is pretty fun for south carolina

It is you get a lot of respect down there in one of them. They look I saw one on the highway today

And I went damn to that thing have presents on the road

You just have to make sure you're short enough to use it meaning that you can see out the windshield

Right, that's important, but make sure it's comfortable for you and

I think that's a good value for money in south carolina. Yeah, so

for me

r32 gtr 996 turbo or viper

Personally having driven all of those

If you could get a great 996 turbo for 50, which i'm not sure you can but if you could

That would be great

50 goes a pretty long way in an r32 skyline. Yeah, that gets you a nice car

Similar to a 996 turbo like they do similar jobs. Yeah, I think and furthermore if you're willing to throw 50 at a jdm car

You could get some other shit that's real dope too. True. You could get

A very sick supra that would just happen to be right hand drive

Um, you can get a chaser you get some other really interesting stuff. Yeah, that's true pretty interesting stuff if you're willing to go jdm

but

I'd go between viper and gtr

It really depends on their height and what you want to do with the car like if you want to do big big power stuff

Eventually

You get the gtr, you know put money into it and go do quarter mile or half mile. Shit. I'd rather own a gtr than a viper

Having driven them both pretty extensively

My only hesitation

In south carolina would be who's going to work on my gtr. Yeah, so before you buy a jdm car in america

Wherever the fuck you are. You need to make sure you have a fucking guy. Yep, or gal or whoever

You need a person that can fix it honestly preferably non-binary. I mean honestly

Not a robot if you're identifying as a gender you're not thinking about my car

I need you to be asexual and non-binary and focused on fucking my head gasket

And the dudes like what are your pronouns like you're worried about the wrong thing, sir

I want I want you to focus on the tolerances of these pistons and the crank and all that stuff

Not a euphemism. That's so funny

Uh username reimagined by singer

Uh with some sports cars nowadays being so refined you don't have to work to drive them fast like cars in the 90s and 2000s

What new car would you like to be a little more unrefined?

I mean BMW m cars

BMW m cars are a great a great choice, but I would also like to be able to

I would also like to be able to

Well, so unrefined is a good word because I can place it wherever I would like

I'd like to remove all eight s functions upon restart that would make them more unrefined technically

Um, I think there's I think one of the problems

One of the things I'd remove is a lot of the nvh because there's a lot of cars today that sound good outside the car

And we have to have the speakers talk to us because we can't hear the engine note because people have asked for a quieter car

Choose your sports car, but I mean there's plenty of stuff that sounds rad when you roll the window down and we roll it up

You can't hear anything. Mm-hmm

That's an interesting problem, right? It's like you people want their car to be more refined

They also want to hear the engine

They also don't want to hear the negative stuff. So what do you do?

You know, they have to augment with with shit through the speakers or whatever and and it's it's

Usually when you turn that stuff off you realize why it's there in the first place

Well, it's because it's like they're trying to get rid of a lot of road noise too

And that's how that's what a lot of the active noise cancelling is doing in a car

It's getting like there's microphones in some cars in the wheel wells and shit

It's cancelling these frequencies

But one of the byproducts of that is also muting the exhaust note, which is it can be a shame. Yeah

LL Cartier

You have gone to your head you have to take your wife on a date in a Mansory product. What would it be?

The what is the longest car they make I don't

I'm not familiar with their can we pull up their website and see what their product range looks like today?

I think they came up with something

I I think they came up with something recently that wasn't

As heinous as I've seen in the past. Well, that's not good. No, that's not the Rolls Royce

Carbonado

That's a fucking awesome name, but it sounds like a pasta dish. Wait, I'll go back to the songway. That's the lamborghini carbonaro

Carbonado, uh, can I have cheese on the side? It's like a pasta dish

Uh, the Koenigsegg Jesko by Mansory. It doesn't look like they've done anything

That's what I would do. They've done a little too much. Have they? Yeah, because the Jesko looks pretty aggressive

But I think they added all these many many gills here

Yeah, but like I I can't personally tell that Koenigsegg hasn't done that. That's fair like if I if you saw

That that that's it. You would take her on the boat

I would take my wife on a boat in the Pirelli 42 by Mansory, which is a rib boat

Uh semi rigid

And that look it looks like it goes about 60 on the trip. We saw a bravest boat. Yeah, we did

It was like this. It was kind of like this. It's got triple v12 offshore is god. That's terrible. Wow

The equette. Oh god. It's gone. It's all gone wrong. This is better

So the equestria, which is based on a Ferrari 12-cylindry. That's very brutal. Wow. That's so terrible

What are you?

Wait, is that real? Of course it is. That's a g-wagon?

Converted into that dude converted into a four-door convertible, but it somehow looks like a jimny

They've made it look like a jimny. They messed up the proportion somehow. Dude. It looks like a Chinese knockoff of itself

It does

It does they've come full circle. Okay

I'm not gonna say the word because we don't say the word anymore, but the word

The r the r word is how it looks

It's you know what I mean like

Yeah, it's fucking they've droopy dogged it. It's like it. Well, it's called. He's like there's angles here. It makes us

It's just a collision of carbon fiber droopy dog ass

Thailand fucking

Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, the whole front looks like it's melting

Oh my god, this is a fun game. All right, so far brutal the Bentley the cotton lg t

Oh, wow is in black most subtle. It's a modicum of taste. Yeah, it's all black. That's why that's perfect

The man story initiate from what I can see in this photo, which is apparently just an exterior silhouette

It's perfect. They took a picture at night. That was good. Oh, no these rolls Royce's are no go. Oh god

What what are they doing? What are they doing to g-waggons?

This is called the pugnator the pugnator pugnator pugnator pugnator

But if I'm if I'm if I'm buying an $800,000 car is the image. I want to think of a pug

Love that dog. We live with one for four years

Not the aesthetic I'm going for with it with the car 800 g's on the Ferrari

Yeah, so listen

All these are bad, but one of them is a boat and so you could you know

I think I'm gonna go with your answer

I would take sarah out in the conic seg because it looks like a spaceship and it is the rest of these are

Just wow. Wow. Yeah, it's truly extraordinary. Wow, truly extraordinary

Impressive. It's really impressive. Yeah. Yeah

Nugatori in Nagoya says I feel like Mitsubishi is circling the drain. Let's give them some love

What are the best Mitsubishi's of all time?

Oh, I mean every Evo

Obviously your Evo range and your Pajero Evo and your your eclipse gsx

You know and its siblings the eagle there was a there was the

For a minute the diamante was some shit, you know back in 93 and diamante was like something

I like the galant when I was younger. I thought it looked nice. I thought it was a pretty good looking car

3000 gt was all right. Yeah, um, but yeah

Rye Pontiac Rye

Says the 25 wrx is doing a zero point

Zero percent apr and the 26 wrx has reduced its price by three or four thousand across the board. How are they valued in your opinion?

I mean the thing about the the wrx is it is a fabulous six tenths car

Yeah, it's such a six tenths car

The problem with that is you can get that same amount of joy from a lot of other cars

So it's no longer unique in that way. Yeah, like

It it it's great when we had a performance car of the year

It was so soft like this formula was dope in o2

In o2

You know 225 250 horsepower all-wheel drive manual light that was sick and rare

It's been the same it's been the same shit

Since then so like it's not that this is a bad car. It's that is a very soft car

Yeah, and if you're trying to buy a car that's like a real sports car

It falls apart at like pretty low levels of stress

Yeah, I think I've had more fun in a civic si which is cheaper because these start at 37 grand

That's crazy. It's so you're getting like what's in a laundra n a laundra n is

Same or less a little bit. So yeah, I went up a little bit like same or less

And just smoking it. Yeah, absolutely destroying it. Um, that starts at 35 cheaper

Yeah

The idea that you would buy a wrx today rather than a laundra n is crazy

That is a wild thing, but like

People go all-wheel drive just if you got good tires front wheel drives gonna be fine. Yeah, that's the rule. Wow

And uh, I think Subaru they asked

Are the is Subaru ever considering the idea of an sti?

I think there's some stories last week that Subaru put some patent docs in for something that looks a lot like a new sti

so I mean

If they're gonna be taken seriously as a performance brand, which I don't know if they care if they are true

I mean, they make money selling

Foresters and outbacks and whatever and and I've you've heard my thoughts on the new outback. They're not great, but

Um, anyway, let's go to broken bmw. Apologist

I'm headed to a car

Wait

Oh, okay

Um, I'm headed to a car related photo shoot. Our professional driver has had to cancel last second

The shoot team knows I've been doing

Uh, high performance driving and racing for a decade and have asked me to fill in as pro driver

I feel a bit of imposter syndrome because obviously the goal of racing is not to power slide around corners on the men

Any advice on how to approach power sliding a car on demand for camera?

Yes

I do have advice. There's a lot

I think there's a lot to this question. There's a lot to this question and this is advice that is worn in blood

Not blood, but one

Very much totaled outie r8 at the anglicy circuit for people listening. This is great

You're pouring a whiskey which is like like I just asked the police officer of 40 years like this story

He's like this night and you know crack it. All right. Listen. Here's the lesson. I learned from chris harris, and I'm gonna tell you

You don't

Learn to slide a corner in a car

I now I assume you're

You're gonna be driving a car that is not your car like if this is if this is your car

and you're

You know familiar with how to slide your car and the only difference is there's a camera there

That's a different question. Make sure the camera is in a very safe place

Make sure it's not in the impact zone meaning on the outside of the corner unless they have a lot like

If everything went really wrong on this corner, your energy is probably going to the outside of it and make sure that camera

Is not in that spot or it's looping to the inside

Just after the apex if you overcook it and lose so so don't be in those two places. Yeah, that's the photographers side

and I will say real quick and I'll let you go like

This photography team

They may not be as experienced as you think they are they may be very experienced great

But you are gonna have to think about safety and if you if they're putting you in a position that you feel is unsafe

You have to be able to tell them that and maybe explain why because they might just go. Oh, we shoot

Flowers and dogs a lot. Why can't I stand here like because if I lose it here

I'm hitting you in the face with the car. So just be comfortable doing that

So in my experience and I say this is not being the best driver in the world

If you're the best driver in the world, if you're liqueen if you're chris harris

You're probably not asking this question in the smoke entire podcast. So I'll assume you're not

right

So here's what chris taught me

After I fucking crashed and here's what I've done ever since and has worked

The way to learn how to slide a car around a corner is not to try to slide a car around a corner

The way to slide a car around a corner is to drive the car clean

With traction control fully disabled

Until you go and pushing yourself faster and faster and faster

And breaking into the corners harder and harder and harder

To load up your front end harder and harder and harder

So that eventually you get to a point where you turn in on that front end and the back steps out naturally

Where you're going to have a problem is if you try to initiate a power slide on power

That's a less controllable slide

Whereas what you really want and any drifting school would teach you this but

Same here is you want to be going quick enough that you got to break really hard

And breaking really hard is going to shift that weight forward

And you lay on that break and you are trail breaking through the turn in

So that as you're turning in that waits on the nose so much that that's when the back end steps out for the slide

And you and by initiating your slide under braking you have a much more controlled slide

That is really what you want to be doing for the camera. So you don't

Just fucking sit at the entrance to the corner

And try and power just because you're just going to spin. It's just going to be a mess

instead

Practice driving it clean go. Okay guys photo team. We need our clean shots first

While you get your clean shots, you're going quicker and quicker and quicker until you find a point the car

Wants to oversteer under braking or you can make it oversteer under braking

And that's the start point for doing your slides

I think

Or don't listen to me because I don't fucking know shit

Tst's new peter built to it's a kenworth. It's a kenworth. Please. I will only buy a kenworth

You should watch ice road truckers too. It's crazy

The oh ps a the right to repair act was introduced in the house. It needs enthusiast communities help

Uh, so is it sign the petition? Is that the thing? What do we want? What do they want people to do?

Do do do do yeah tell your legislator to support it. So just go to the website

Um, we'll put in the show notes, but this comes up every year, unfortunately

And it's something that basically affects anyone who owns a car. So yeah

Um, I don't know the answer to carne azanda's question. Although you have a great username

Prayer of the refugee wagon with montana plates

Uh, what would net the better driving and ownership experience an older but well maintained 9 11 or a newer

Boxster caiman that cost the same as an older 9 11

Lots of things to consider but for the same entry price. What would you choose?

Dude, this is a tough one

because it's

Don't personally and maybe this makes me elitist somehow, but I don't I don't work backwards from my budget

I don't go. I have $40,000. That can get me

2014 caiman or it can get me a 2006 9 11

Which should I buy?

I have a dream

that one day

My children that don't exist, uh, that that I uh, I have a I have a dream to own a car

That dream could be a long-term dream like the kuntosh

It could be a short-term dream like I drive rick demand silver car and I go

Fuck me. I've got to have this or lee keens car. We go. Oh my god. I've got to have this

But but I have a dream I fall in love with a car

And then I figure out how to pay for you

So this question of what is the better driving owner experience? It's like

The the the quote owner experience is you have a Porsche you have to maintain it at Porsche shops

Or maintain it yourself using Porsche parts

Like it's not that much more expensive to maintain a 9 11 than it is to maintain a boxter

That's the argument against cheap boxters and 9 4 4s and 9 6 8s and whatever the fuck, right?

so like

Do you want a mid-engine car or do you want a 9 11 like you know

Do you do you do you think differently than me on this? No, I always think of the car first. Yeah, I don't go

I have this much money

That I just want to spend on a car. What can I get? It's like what has captured my imagination?

And then can I find a car that costs this much and if I and then if I can't

What uh, what cars are available in my budget range that would give me some of the same flavor

Yeah, the question isn't what would approximate a 9 11 for 40 grand or what would approximate a cayman it's it's

I don't I don't want to dismiss a question that starts with budget and works backwards because so many of our questions

Start with budgets and work backwards and almost everybody out in the real world does have a budget

But I just really want to impress on people that starting with a it's weird to me personally

I have a budget. It might be higher than other people's but I have a budget. I can't just fucking buy whatever

I like you I start with a dream and then figure out a budget so

I I what you know, what do you want? Do you want a newer Porsche mid-engine?

You do you want an older Porsche rear-end? They just feel different like

I don't believe that a 9 11 is inherently better than a cayman. It's not

In many ways. It's worse actually

And obviously I spent my money on a Boxster. I could have bought a 9 11

There's a million 9 11's I could have bought but I bought a Boxster and I love it and it's fucking perfect

so like I don't know it's like what's your dream and

Um, I mean, yes, you can buy a nicer newer more powerful cayman for the same money than you can get 9 11

Sure, but like that may not be the dream. Yeah, the vibe will be different

This power will be different the handling is different. Yeah cost of ownership probably be different

Re-education through working on shit boxes. That's very good

I'm looking into e46 m3 sm g's with the sole intention of manual swapping them

Have either of you driven a swapped one?

And is there anything notable or weird about them that could potentially make it worthwhile to just get the original?

I haven't heard any real issues with manual swapping bmw's

I haven't either if they're done by if they're done the right way with all the right parts

From what I've heard they feel the same. Well, and I don't think so bmw unlike Ferrari like Ferrari only made

A very small number of let's say manual gearbox 5 9 9's

Like parts don't exist. You know Ferrari made a very small number

relatively speaking of manual gearbox 4 30s like the the parts have been made by third parties

Hopefully to factory spec, but like maybe not

The bmw e46

There is no shortage of factory spec parts that are available to do this swap

Right. Yeah, you could any part is available because the company's because bmw knows I need to be able to service my manual

Equipped from the factory e46. So all the parts and all the little knickknacks and all the levers are available

In case one of those fails on my car. Yeah, and it's is it get drag who makes your gearbox

I think so and so the get drag six speed it was used in other things

Other bmw's other other stuff like in its basic form

So things like clutch cables and just like all that shit just like exists for bmw's

So like whereas the you know the limited number of ferrari's and like back when I was investigating that shady ass company

I called grotziano because this company was alleging

To me that they could do

458 swaps and other other manual ferrari swaps and they said that they had gearboxes coming from grotziano

Well, I called fucking grotziano and they had no idea who these people were

So like

Shit is not always above board right, but

I suspect

And I and I mean this is suspect that there are enough parts available to do an effective manual bmw swaps

I think it's a known thing. I would just look on the forms and stuff and make sure there's no weirdness with like the computer

That you know the car came with an automatic does it get does the engine get talked to by that transmission?

And now is it getting confused, but probably not I mean we've driven about smg's dude

I'll tell you that an sm an smg is straight trash so bad

Even even our boy peter's car and what a lovely man was amazing. What a lovely man and what a lovely build

But like you ain't fooling me motherfucker

Now with that

I was like all this money

He wanted to be like the one he had I get it

Bro sm smg swap it garbage

Jacking off the record if you were keeping a watch for life, would you care about the box and papers? No, I would not

No, I have watches that don't have box of papers. I don't give a fuck

It's money box and papers is is money and money out

You're gonna pay less up front

Because the watch doesn't have box and papers and then the guy you sell it to is gonna pay you less because it doesn't have

Box and papers in between that motherfucker's on your wrist

The box and papers if they existed or in some drawer somewhere

Taking up space and if I knew I was gonna keep the watch forever forever forever

Then I wouldn't care about the box and papers because I would only have that if I'm like

Maybe one day I'll sell this and I'll get more money for it

Look if you already have the box and papers you should keep them

There's not a reason not to keep them

But I wouldn't seek out that watch with that stuff

I understand why people want it you buy a car with service records buy a car with no service records

You know what I mean? You buy you buy a car with no service records

It's gonna be 20 cheaper and you might have to do fucking whatever right?

And then you sell the car with service records and it's gonna bring less money because of the same exact reason

It's the same bullshit

If you have them great if there's a watch you love that doesn't have them price accordingly

You know make sure it's not fake. You know, but there's fake boxes and fake service records like

You you buy the seller but in my opinion like no if the watch is if the watch is legit

It's a real watch like whatever like no money and money out. Yeah

Avenged lotus seven fold. That's great

What's a normal car that a manufacturer could have made special? That's a very good question

And I think one of your examples is actually the one the Honda fit type R

A fit type r would have been bananas. It would have been so fast

It absolutely would have ripped

I like that a lot. Yeah, I mean people they race those things. They're they're really really fun

The juke r was special right the juke r was absolutely special. So that one I wouldn't include but yeah a fit type r would have been sick. Yeah

element off-road nah, that would have been slow and

That would have been like an outback who cares a normal car. I mean

I I gotta give a shout out to ford on this one the maki rally

That's went from a toaster to an unbelievably dynamic machine

That I would put up against the 9 11 Dakar in a rally scenario any fucking. Yeah, or like put up against jr. Corolla. Yeah, sure

Yeah, um, that's a good one. Mm-hmm

I would not call the charger. Hellcat normal. No Pontiac simon phoenix

So by the way, I've I've

If you come to the race if you end up doing the doing the race

I'm

I'm almost locked

On a Durango. Hellcat transport vehicle for us

To get from the airport to the track because the the friday is practice quali day

And you can run street legal vehicles

And we could track test the Durango. Hellcat at rhodo

Which would be really good. I did the I did the jeep track hawk at rhodo lana and it was an unbelievably fun time

Yeah, dude, the drink will be fun. It would rip. Yeah, it would rip. Talk about gas consumption, bro

Four miles per gallon maybe

It would be so bad

But dodge is giving me a charger for this rhodo track thing

The the the desert 600, but they won't let me put it on the track

They say there's a track ready one

Coming, but it's not this one and they don't want me to put it on the track

And I I understand I I do understand and i'm not going to put on the track

I want to drive it on the road trip

But I said

You know like the week after that trip i'm going to road america

Do you have a Durango?

Hellcat in chicago because I have to pick up three people at the airport

Load all of their fucking shit and racing gear out to wisconsin to the track

And then I need something to practice in on friday

And wrote america and he's like we have a Durango. Hellcat for you

The sound of that on the long straight. Oh man, you get to listen to that that tune for a while

Dude, we might you might be passing race cars

It's it is possible because the race cars are on track two. Yeah, but it's a weighty horse power

Yeah, you're fucking dude. You're the our race car is like 280 horsepower

At the end of the straight it would definitely pass it power away be damned

Yeah, plus the

Yeah, it is so silly

Uh, Pontiac simon phoenix

Last one and then we're going to wrap this particular show and we'll save the rest for later

My brother is looking at a tycon. He's convinced he wants an early model turbo or turbo s

I'm trying to convince him to get a newer base model anything that he would be missing going with this plan

Okay

You

Just my advice you don't want a 20 or 21

You want a 22 and up. That's what I have my car has been fine

Like but why do you not want that year the first year had really some issues with

Common bugs battery problems and all all kinds of crazy shit

And a lot of the cars were fixed some of the cars were lemon, but like

So so I I wouldn't get a 20 or 21

I wouldn't buy any of them honestly 22 and up. I think you're probably okay

having said that

All tycons are really fast like even the base model so

If you aren't used to very fast cars a tycon turbo s is like riding a rocket. It's it's it's

Disturbingly fast. It will make you nauseous

People want what they want and they just want the fastest one. I get it. You want to brag or whatever

scare your friends once or twice like I totally get it like

What I wouldn't do is talk someone out of the thing they want

Be by saying they don't need it because that's not how people buy cars

But but I would advise them against buying a 20 or a 21 and I would just say look a four s

2022 is still like insanely fast like just get that and you'll have a lot less issues reliability whatever

You know de-badged if you must right or get him a turbo badge for Christmas because if he's looking at the the bad year turbo

That means that whoever's selling it knows it's from a rough year

They're going to unload it for cheap and if he can so

But if he's looking at like a 23

Turbo and he can afford that versus like a 24 25, you know other one says early model early model to me means

2021 yeah, then just send him the many many forum posts. Yeah, the reliability stories are not great on those and and

22 and up is substantially better. They they they refined a lot of stuff and and

Ours has been ours is just one, but it ours has been good. I haven't heard like crazy horror stories about about them

So that's I'd focus on reliability more more so than you don't need a turbo because nobody wants to hear that shit

You know what I'm saying? I have the number of people I know that have cars

Far beyond the power that they're truly capable of handling is huge. Yeah, that is basically everybody

You know, so

Yeah, right. Yep, right. That's our show. Thank you everybody. We love you all. Thank you to our patrons for supporting us

Throughout the years we we certainly appreciate it and thank you to everybody else for listening. We appreciate you as well

See you next time. Bye

About this episode

Matt Farah and the crew bounce from car culture to real-world ownership: they debate the ethics and pricing of movie props after Farah drops big money on Wesley Snipes’ “Demolition Man” gun, then pivot into reviews. The Volvo EX30 gets praise for compact fun and strong performance, but criticism for mode resets, clunky climate controls, and wireless charging quirks. Singer’s Porsche 964 DLS is treated like a near-perfect analog-meets-race-engine experience—light, sharp, and obsessively calibrated. The show also includes Q&A on EV vs gas prices, parts availability for older cars, and buying advice for used sports cars.

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Original notes

Matt Farah finds out if the Singer DLS is as perfect as they say; he and Zack Klapman trade opinions on the Volvo EX30 they drove; a "Demolition Man" prop slips through fingers; and Patreon questions include:

Why aren't there more Lotus engines?
Maserati Gran Turismo vs Aston V8 Vantage
Mansory's model lineup is INSANE
Will high gas prices = higher EV sales?
How to pick your enthusiast sports car
What news cars should be more "raw"?
Why the WRX lost its popularity
How to drift a car for camera
JSX vs airlines
And more!

Recorded March 25, 2026

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