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So car week just happened.

A lot of, if you're not paying attention to the

automotive world and, you know, because you have a life,

but like things have changed dramatically.

And this isn't just this year, but it's, it's been working

this way over the last decade to last 15 years.

And COVID definitely helped this happen.

But a lot of auto manufacturers don't really go to

conventions anymore and release a new vehicle or, you

know, they go to the, it used to be the Geneva

convention show that for Europeans, they would put

something out special Detroit Motor Show used to do

stuff, you know, for the domestics.

And they still have those like events, but they're at

a much smaller scale.

Auto manufacturers who spend millions and millions

of dollars to have like a sexy booth and all this

stuff and make a big to do about it.

Car week has turned into kind of the unconventional

release for most auto manufacturers and then

boutique builders to reveal their new

concept slash stuff they're going to sell to people

and they usually do it at the quail.

It's funny because the quail used to just be like

a really cool party with really cool cars on the

lawn and then it kind of manifested into, it still

has really cool cars, but now there's

manufacturers buying space to reveal.

It's a big ad.

Yeah.

It's a huge, it's turned into, and it's an

exclusive event.

It's not one of those things where you can just

walk in and show up.

You have to pre-buy tickets.

It's like there's an invite list.

There's layers to it.

And it's, it can be complicated, but I guess

they're showing it and making sure the right

people are viable potential candidates,

essentially, instead of just gockers and

tiktokers and social media.

I mean, you'd probably still get it, but you also

get free ad.

Yeah, I mean, I think there's, I think they

filter that in the sense of you have to be

at a higher level, right?

To be in there.

You can't just be some startup.

It's like, hey, give me a shot.

It's like, dude, great.

We did, you're not going to try to build a

brand at this event.

That's not going to happen.

More of kind of like a Schme or

something, somebody who already has millions

and millions of followers, very known for

exotic car stuff, like somebody where

that audience, it makes sense.

Anyways, the whole reason I bring that up

is there was a couple of reveals at that

event.

Gunther revealed their new flat nose

concept.

It's a twin turbo, four liter, some

stats on the car.

It's pretty insane.

Car weighs 2,700 pounds and makes 1,000

horsepower.

That's like a, that is a fighter jet.

It's going to move.

It looks pretty cool too.

Have you seen pictures of it?

I think it's probably the best looking

modern rendition of a flat nose.

I'm a normal me, which is kind of like,

it's cool.

Yeah.

I think they got it 80%, right?

Like it looks cool.

What do you think is off for you?

The wheel, like there's a,

kind of stands with the wheels.

I think the wheels look, of all the

wheels they make, the wheels on this

one look great.

I don't know.

I think, if I have to give it a

downgrade on anything, it might be

a little bit of their, their

interior is a little busy.

Yeah.

But it's that modern dig.

I think that's, that's still.

No, I know what they're going after.

I'm just saying for me, I just think

the steering wheel looks a little,

you're almost, it almost gives the

vibe that you're trying too hard.

You know, like it's just, sometimes

there's some like niceness and the

simplicity and, and I know what

they're doing from a manufacturer

standpoint is that car's millions of

dollars.

So they're trying to make you feel

like you're, but I don't think that's

necessary.

Like Singer has found a way to make

a very special interior, but not

make it look busy.

To keep it understated.

But it's still very all super

expensive shit.

I don't mean, and I don't, I'm not

saying not busy equals not expensive

and not quality material.

Not cheap.

It's still great stuff.

And I know Gunther's doing great

stuff.

I just think it, it's a little

too much.

Maybe like, I don't know if that's

just a reflection of the staff.

There's a little bit younger maybe

and they're taking a different take

on it.

I don't know what that is, but I

mean, it's not like a huge demand.

It's not like a big turnoff.

It's just one of those things.

It's kind of like, I could use a

little bit less like, I don't know

the, and maybe it's just

optically for me.

When I look at seats, I don't

like where there's seven different

broken up cushions in a seat

in a bucket.

Like that for me, that just looks

weird.

Like I just don't like that look.

It seems like.

Same for me with those m seats that

have the holes in them.

Yeah.

Like where it's like, I understand

maybe it's lightweight or something

or just design choice.

It's like.

Yeah.

Almost like old school, like

not even that old school, like

05 GT, 4 GT where it had like

those big ring holes in the

seat where it doesn't hurt

you.

But it look, I don't know.

I think it looks strange.

Yeah.

That is a throwback to what they

were doing.

Yeah.

But yeah.

That makes sense.

Are you, can they make pop ups?

Is that, is that I mean.

Yeah.

Because there's that place in

Italy that redid the 928 and

those are pop ups that are still

on.

I mean, they could do them.

I mean, but I mean, I liked

what they did with the car.

I think it actually looks really

good on, on the 993 chassis.

Like the, the flat nose on it,

especially as wide as the

fenders are.

Believe it or not, I think that

car actually looks better than

it does with the circular

headlights, like the normal

frog eyes.

Yeah.

Because that car basically is

just a rendition of their

turbo study that they have,

which makes a crap ton of power

too.

They just turned it up and

they said now it's a

thousand.

I mean, you and I can speak

from this because we were in

California kind of when they

were launched their first

prototype and we got to see it

firsthand, like the actual one,

the mule.

Man, they have come a long way

since then.

Yeah.

That's true.

But that's what, that's what

hard work does.

So like kudos to them for

that.

Initially it seemed a little

strange and it's not like they

got here overnight.

Like anything, they busted

their ass, hired right

engineers and I'm sure they

fired a lot of engineers and

there's probably been a lot

and they just keep moving the

needle forward.

And in this particular thing

that they've made now, I

mean, even the engine bay with

the way that the whole engine

design like is all unique to

what they're doing, it's an

incredible car.

I know it's got an incredible

price tag, but I think it's

pretty cool for what it is.

So it looks like the 993 body

was a good choice then.

Like is it really adapted to

everything they wanted to do

with it?

Yeah.

And honestly, like, and

again, not to make, this

whole show is not about them

by the way.

So I just, I'm just saying

this because I know I've

talked trash about them in

the past about certain

cars that they have.

And I will still stand by

that.

Like, I'm not a fan of their

speedster look.

I think it looks a little

wonky.

That's just my personal

opinion.

You know, different strokes

for different folks, whatever.

But this, this turbo study

they've done is like awesome.

The engine, then it's awesome.

The lightweight 993 build,

the coupe one, I like that

too.

It's for me, I think the

reason why initially when

their cars first came out

like they did their own

spinoff of the Fooke.

And it just didn't, it didn't

look right, I guess, maybe

because a car was just too

big.

Like, meaning the fenders were

like their contact patches

were too big and it was

almost, it just didn't seem

right.

But anyways, I don't want to

spin off in that, but this

particular car, it's, I don't

know, I like the way it

looks.

I think it fills the, these

wheels go with this car.

I think they hit that spot

on.

I think the flat nose looks

right with this car.

It's a very modern take,

obviously, on a flat nose.

I mean, how, and they're

doing almost what the entire

bespoke industry is doing with

that whole like slit thing.

If you look at the radiator.

Yeah.

Well, I'm just talking about

the headlights, how they did

that.

I mean, the new Gordon Murray

concept car that they're

coming out with the F, the

the McLaren F1's being

reimagined as well.

And it has headlights kind of

like that too, like where

they're cut in.

So that's a design.

Yeah, it's a design thing

that's obviously works and

makes sense and probably

for wind tunnel purposes,

that works as well.

It's got to be, yeah.

I can't imagine

like what this thing

must be like to drive.

I mean, it must be insane.

2700 pounds

and 1000 horsepower.

I'm just going to say that

again.

Like that's insane.

I mean, there's some arrow

here.

Yeah.

I can't imagine it's like

just sucking itself down to

the road.

Yeah.

The nice part about their

vehicles, which, which I

was going to say, you know,

as I was saying all that

other stuff is their front

because they have such wide

fenders.

Like that's why their cars

can do such really good

lap times because they,

their front, I want to say

that they could put a 305 on

the front.

So that's a, that's a huge

contact patch.

That's a giant thing.

That's a, that's a 997

GT3 rear, rear tire

contact patch on the front.

So, I mean, when you're

putting that kind of power

down and you're doing those

kind of things, you need

that.

But see, they're smart

enough to have done that

and it gives, it gives them

their unique design now.

At first, when they first,

they looked kind of wonky

because they were, the

front fenders were so wide,

but it makes sense

if you're really going to

drive the car in anger

because you need that

front contact patch.

I just don't, you know,

obviously they have a very

opulent customer base.

It has a lot of money.

You and I have been to

events, air-cooled events

and actual rallies where we've

actually seen air, air-cooled

stuff there and there's a mix

and then there's actually

singers being rallied.

I've never once seen a

Gunther being rallied.

I'm not saying obviously it

has more than capable of

being rallied, but I just

don't know if that buyer

is a rally person.

They don't know they're

a driver or not.

Yeah.

Looks like they're calling

this thing the F-26 or the

firm that built it is

or their firm.

So it's going to be

26 of them.

I mean, it's insane.

Whatever.

Crazy numbers, right?

Is there a number to it?

Is it like 3, 4 million?

I think it's probably

around that.

So Roof is coming out

with a 2026.

It's weird.

They're calling it a Roof

Tribute.

That's what confused me.

So I was reading the notes

as I do every time.

And it's all that.

And I was like, what?

So it's probably going to

sound confusing because it

is.

So it's basically a tribute

to the original

Roof car that they used to

make.

And I guess maybe they're

calling it a Tribute.

And I thought about this when

I wrote it because the

newer cars that they have

are actually not

a Porsche because it's their

own wheelbase.

They've lengthened the

wheelbase.

So maybe that's what they

mean by this is going to

be like a Porsche

wheelbase car.

So maybe that's why it's

a Tribute.

Not to the narrow.

And that's what they're

making 50 to 100.

So this is supposed to be

like.

Remember when they came out

with.

Not their actual like RCF

or whatever they came out

with when they made and they

sold out sold out right away

like they made their own

carbon monocoque and they

made all that.

And it looks like a 911

but it's not a 911 that

car.

The car before that one.

Okay.

Um, was still based like on

964 chassis type stuff.

So I think that's what this

is.

And that's why they're calling

it a roof Tribute.

So it's going to be a 3.6

liter 543 horsepower.

Car's going to weigh 2800

pounds.

So it's going to be pretty

light.

Not obviously a thousand but

this is a different type of

vehicle.

And the reason why I'm

bringing this up and I kind

of want to like talk about

this a little bit and then

I kind of want to obviously

once a 993 chassis this is

a 964 chassis.

They also, the debut of their

rodeo was debuted before.

So we've seen their rodeo

concept which is basically a

safari car but they delivered

I think a rodeo at the quail

to a customer.

And no offense to their

initial car that they

launched.

I know they wanted to make it

look wild and they had like

shovels and it was in like

that burnt orange or

whatever.

But this one that they

delivered was like an all

black had like white tarmac

style wheels on it like it

looked way better in my

personal opinion.

I'm like man that's cool.

And I've seen it before but

just putting a different color

and taking all that accessories

off of it made it look really

really cool.

So again limited numbers on

these 50 to 100 I'm sure

2, 3 million maybe 4 gets it

done.

I'm not sure on that.

We'll find out.

As we talked about and how

big of fans we are on prior

episodes about roof they've

really come into their own

and leaned into this bespoke

50 to 100 cars.

They have figured out the

sauce.

I mean they were doing it

before but now like I want to

say in probably the last 10

years with the selling out of

the stuff right away they

have a lot of cash flow

coming in and they're just

riding that momentum as they

should.

They're the OG's of this

market I guess if you want

to call it that as such

thing they were the bespoke

ones from the very beginning

and you know there was

other ones out there but

they're the ones that

have the time you know like

they're still doing it from

like back then.

I think they're doing it

bigger.

They have a bigger presence

or they've started to have a

bigger presence ever since

we made the yellowbird.

Yeah.

I think that's when that

started.

And they have lineage too

right like so and like it

no matter how long any of

these other companies it

takes time.

Yeah.

So and roof will always be

ahead of that curve

because they have the time

from the 80s and the 90s

involved so I think for

people that have that

kind of wealth that like

a story I think that

there's no denying that

story right there.

They were the fastest

world in the car the fastest

car in the world.

Like it's just one of those

things like undeniable stuff

that they were doing so.

And they also make a great

product it's not just that

you're leaning on past

history stuff and like

being rewarded for things

that you used to do

you're they have you know

they're breaking barriers

with their new stuff that

they're doing as well.

Now let's compare these

two cars even though

they're different things here

for a second.

And the only thing I really

want to compare is that

do you feel like a thousand

horsepower is is just too

much like and what I mean

by that is you know

there's going to be people

like all more is more

right and we've talked

about stuff like this

before where and obviously

the gunther car is not

going to be this

obviously going to have

enough brakes to do what

it needs to do but you

can overpower a chassis

it doesn't matter like

you can overpower a chassis

the depths of like

what this article that

I was able to cipher

information from I bet it's

a progressive 1000 it's

probably not a thousand

horsepower like right at

like this was dropped the

hammer.

Yeah like you're

probably don't get it all

it's probably under load

and it's progressive

just like the turbo

like the boost is

probably progressive

still even at its peak

at a thousand on a 2700

pound chassis I think

I think it's more of a

hey we can do this

we know our customers

probably won't exercise this

and use it but do you think

from a balance from

an engineering standpoint

that maybe that

can upset that chassis

at all or

I don't know I think it's

just this thinking with it

being full carbon fiber

and all that

and as wide as it is

I think they've

I think they've thought

through it enough

and probably even turned

up their older car

that at 850 or

whatever to a thousand

and kind of sorted it out

before they even decided to put

yeah a thousand in it

but I mean even from like

I'm trying to

I'm trying to like

use my brain

and think about driving

this car and

let's just say you're in

California and since

that's where they're from

and you're driving

Angeles Crest or wherever

you're driving

and you're driving this

in anger

I mean how much throttle

are you going to

really be able to use here

I think it's just

going to be a number

you say you have

because there's I don't

think there's a place

where you're going to be

matting that thing down

and just

you know just

you'll power out too much

and so now I'm talking

now let's talk about

the other car

543 horsepower

which is a ton

still in a 911

and 2800 pounds

which is a very light car

still like

that seems more balanced

right so we're

talking about two

different houses here

and two different

thoughts and engineering

about cars

not saying one's

right or wrong

but I'm just saying like

I can't imagine

like the

I think it's more bragging rights

it has to be with the gunther

because like it's

if you're an enthusiast driver

like I would imagine

you know we talk about

want or at least me

more than anything

like being in the mountains

and when I was in the 964

bitching and moaning

about being second

between second third gear

like one's too much

you know this one's

probably geared a little

bit better

you make up for it

with the horsepower

and the boost maybe

but I'm sure there's

times or you're tight

and technical like

you're going to be

maybe too much power

like in between

gears like you're

you're never going to

go full throttle

so like

we've talked about

is it unusable

yeah like that

driving experience

where you're not

like what is that

like you're

you're quarter throttle

all the time

or like what does that look

like you're probably not

even ever going to be

full throttle on the roof

either

no probably not

I mean

I'm sure that

what the

horsepower comes

all the technology

at least I would imagine

with what the gunther

works for is

doing it

but I mean

back in the day

500 horsepower was

like astronomical

so it's just a new

it's a new yardstick

yeah

where this

it might be the norm

for down the

horsepower but I agree

even the 500 on roads

the 1000 on roads

is probably

virtually unusable

you'd need a track

and you'd need something

with some

with some miles on it

yeah

I mean

a good like

monza

something with a straight

Nürburgring

straight

I think it was just like

a flex on

what we can do

and I think

what modern

modern cars are doing

and I think Peter

maybe got

I don't want to say

caught up in that

because that's not fair

because

but you see all these

you know twin

turbo kits for

Lambos

and Audis

and people are like

oh dude yeah

it's 1200 horsepower

it's slow

it's not

no but I'm saying

they're like it's slow

it's got 1200 horsepower

like he's got

you know 3000

his car is fast

and it's like

like what

what you guys

doing with these things

like just

doing straight away runs

like

I mean

teach their own

you know

Texas mile

I get that

there's

but I mean this is

you're not buying a

$3 million car

to go out there

and do Texas mile

I mean come on

I mean

you could do it

for a lot less

you could

but I mean

you think there's a

room for a company

as many as a percent

come out

that's just like

balanced

just takes that

that's what Porsche

still do with their

GT cars

we're going to make a way

this

you get

choice in color

that's about it

I think roof

kind of does

a little bit of that

I don't think

they overcomp

I mean

their customers

can have pretty

much whatever

color they want

but most of their

customers

are not

those hot boys

that are going to

come in there

and be like

you know

I want some mystic

you know

glitter pink

really classy colors

you know

they still pop

you know

we've seen the roof

green

like that's a beautiful color

and

their interiors

I mean

I would say

compared to others

I mean

there has been

some wild

roof interior colors

but

wild is

pretty moderate

nowadays

they're wild

is pretty moderate

nowadays

like when they

were doing it

back in the day

they were

wild

compared to what

you know

the freaking eggplant

purple interior

and people like

whoa that's insane

now that's kind of like

oh no that goes

and like people

understand that now

but back in the day

people were like

that's just super wild

I think

roof is more on those

lines of anything

about balance

where they

they're like

hey

the chassis balance

the cars fast

we're trying to

develop a driving

experience

we're not chasing

a number here

like we're not

we're tracing

a car

we trust

you know

this is ample

like horsepower

you do not need more

and

is there room for that

I think they're

showing you there is

they're doing it

they're not going to have

a hard time selling

these cars

I'm sure they're

probably already

all deposited on

if not

pretty close

and they're going to

the nice thing about

them too

is that

they're going to

build 50 to 100

cars over five

years

you're going to wait

five years

until you get your car

so

in a cool way

you know

it's

they're not rushing

to get their product

out there

they know what

they bring to the table

and they're just

kind of like

hey

you want one

this is a

bespoke piece

of art

that you're

going to get

that you can drive

and you'll see it

in 60 months

dude

you know

they've chosen

17 different colors

in your head

that you think the car

is going to be

and all this other stuff

started locked in

to green, yellow

and black

and just when you think

there can't be enough

you know

I didn't write this one down

but there's an electric

company

they're calling it

the 993

like

GT

like they're going to

make it an EV

and they're

it's just going to be

a cruiser

and they're

big in the EV

market

like in

resto modding EVs

I guess

and they're going to

take their take on the 993

chassis

and

so

they're

not that

they're already hard to get

but even

going to be more hard to get

so like as

964s dry up

993s are also drying up

because there's

another player

that has entered the game

Mike's like

yep keep doing it

yeah right

I'm like

I got a 993

perfect

yeah keep doing this

no it's

it's

it's weird to think

that

you would see

a million times

like

we've had friends that just

recently bought

like a 930 turbo

and

worldwide

you look at the number

of like 930

turbos made

it was like

some crazy number

like 23,000

total in the world

you just don't see

that many of them anymore

was that a friend that

recently went to Miami

that we

picked up

um

DS

and no

okay

but

it's weird

and it's

not because

everybody's

like

obviously they got wrecked

some got parted out

some got

there's not a lot

I mean

but that's a lot

staggering number though

you think of that

just think about

like a stadium

and put 23,000 people

in it

that's like a lot of people

and then just

release them into the street

you're going to see those

people for a long time

right so

yes the world

is a big place

but I'm just

trying to do the math

like

look how few

of any of those

cars that

you see on a regular

basis

like

you know they made like

80,000 964s

you don't

oh well there's a 964

right over there

it's like

alright there's like

eight of them here

total

and there's probably

thousands of people here

that's still like a low

number

I guess

um

it wasn't that many

I think it was like

60 something thousand

but the point is

is that

these cars

I guess

everything happens to them

right like

wrecks

parted out

modded

tucked away

there's only a hand

handful of them

that are circulating

and then you can really

get in the weeds

like where people are like

I want a driver one

I don't want to buy

I don't want to spend

150 grand

like I want something

with miles

but something like

looked after

now you're really

getting specific

um

you know

I'm saying that

for me specifically

those are the kind

of cars we like

like hey

can I mod this

and not

you know

feel guilty driving

this

like can I drive it

to you

um

and then

you get even more

like

you're like

well there isn't a lot

of people who do that

like all the ones

that are left

people are like

taken care of now

so like the price

is way up

it's like

so I'm going to

pay you a lot of money

just to put

miles on the car

that doesn't make sense

um

but yeah

it's just

right when you

think we say it

every time

every year

we say it

multiple times

but the market is

you know

infinite

this leads us to our

next segment

so we are

yeah

next up

no

um

so still staying

on the topic

of

um

car week

now this is all

just from

information that

I've got second hand

from people that

did go to car week

and things that

I did see about

car week

and some of the

reporting on it

and

I saw footage

so it's not

there's like

some bar fights

like at like

nice places

like at

you know

not like

at Waffle House

like at some

country club

and like for people

that were there

and like it was all

car week related stuff

it wasn't like

oh there just

happened to be a fight

during car week

at this place

I'm sure that makes

us more appreciated

as car people in the

community

yeah

and it's like

and then there was

kind of a couple

takeovers

like they didn't

like the in and out

and that's all right

from what

from

most of the people

that have been going

to car week pretty

regularly on the west coast

from my

my interpretation

from what they said

was it's been the rowdy

as they've ever seen it

and

they're suspecting

there's going to be

something

that happens in

reaction to this

following

like meaning

the city of car

now all that stuff

they're going to do

something

like I don't

you can't shut

car week down

because it's been

it's like one of those things

that's been going on

for so long

like you can't just

the money that

has to come from

that weekend

or that week

has to be insane

for them

I mean I know

they already have

a lot of stuff

isolated and

roped off

and

I guess

they do

they don't

because they've

moved some things

because

they used to have

like this

rowdy stuff

is happening

around it

it's not happening

in any of the main events

it's happening

like in the public places

where you can't control

so like the only things

that they probably

could do is like

literally shut down

the streets

and unless you're going

to an event

and have a ticket

which is going to

put a major strain

on the local populace

which would be hell

because there's only

there's different

like one way in

one way out

a lot of places

and they

it just sucks

because

of happening

and

I was like

why is it the change

so much this year

so apparently

their thought is

that a lot of young people

are there

and I'm not trying to

chastise young people

but

when I say young

I mean like basically

let's call it

driving age

to 25

out there

you know

doing rev battles

and

if you're imagining this

don't imagine

what you've seen

on like Instagram

like they're out there

doing 240s and stuff

like these are definitely

like rich kids

somehow have gotten money

gotten themselves

you know

they're out there with like

event doors doing stuff

like this

so

not that that makes it okay

but I'm saying they

the cars blend in

because they look the part

because it's an expensive area

so they're not out there

and junk

so the cops aren't

being able to target

them right away

until they can

hear them doing

what they're doing

and they're all

you know

and then

they have all of these

spectators out there

that are their age too

and it just creates this

I don't know

like wave effect

it's like a wave machine

like this

like

energy gets built up there

and then like all

pump in each other up

and they're all

hype in each other up

and then

they're excited to be there

but then they just

they just start

doing dumb shit

and they just

can't be there

because they just

can be happy

to take it all in

it's just

everything's got to be

amplified right

let's amp this up

and it's like the next thing

you know like

the damn SWAT team's

out there

and it's like dude

what are you guys doing man

and then

you know they're like

what are you guys

all harassing us

it's like dude

what you guys

look what you're doing

like you've taken

like a chill thing

and like

made this

like a mess

so

I don't know

what's gonna happen

with it

it's a great event

I'm so glad

that I

my experiences

if it does get shut down

I don't have any recollection

or memory of any of this

kind of trash happening

while I was there

like it was all

just like cool stuff

and

you know like

as it should be

like it's

it's nice out there

it's chill

it's

it's a great place to be

and there's fun shit out there

and it's

you don't need to be

you know

on level 11

out of 10

like cranking it

all the time

like that's not

they just don't get it

like that's not

the place for that shit

it gave me

this is a reference that

maybe some of our younger

people will know

it gave me

solo vibes

exotic solo vibes

so basically like

what that was

is like

in Helen

they used to have that experience

that got shut down

because people were

basically out there

doing burnouts

in the street

doing takeovers

in

piece of crap

Volkswagen's

BMW's

and Honda's

and stuff

so that Helen

that shut that down

they changed it into

a whole another thing now

they're trying to police themselves

but this is the kind of

shit that happens

but I don't

since this isn't their event

what I mean by that

is like these young

like

tech talkers

and so like

I just think

it's not going to go away

but I think there's going to be

a major gauntlet throw down

how that's going to happen

I have no idea

I'm sure it'll just

it'll have to probably be

enforced unfortunately

by law enforcement

they're the ones

that are going to be

the middle management

on this deal

Carmel's not going to stand

for having the city

yeah and the citizens

aren't going to deal

with that either too

it costs a lot of money

to live there

they tolerate

the car week thing

because usually

it's pretty chill

and it's cool

and you see cool cars

when

you see like

douchebags

in

you know

hieroglyphic

Lamborghini

wraps

doing rev battles

outside

like the chateau

like that's not

going to fly dude

like it's

read the room

jackass

there is some local

like

like sideswiped

the Rolls Royce

driving

I don't know

that's

I mean sideswipe's

a good

terminology because

he was coming by

he couldn't fit through there at all

it was in some Hyundai

oh god

dude was like

been drinking

the guy in the Hyundai

yes

because we could still

see his Guinness

or whatever

it was like

it took two dudes

it was like bro

like you just hit my car

we're going to

we're going to drag you

out of this thing

he wanted to fight about it

so that's all

on the Instagram as well

jeez

um

so like

it's

I think it's a mix of

well I don't know

if he was local

I just assume he might have been

but

and then

and then here's the

the deeper dive on this is

it makes the people that

that they want to come

to those events not come

there'll be a new event

that opens up

that's what I think

like as soon as you

mentioned it

are kind of like

walked on the sobo thing

I was like

well now there's

yeah but you can't redo

car week right

like that's like the institute

car week is it's

own thing

and like

basically

this is the pimple

on the ass of car

like they're going to just

eradicate the pimple

is what they're going to do

they're not going to let them

change their event

what I'm saying is

there's going to

they're going to do something

to them

as they roll in

like if they show up

like that in force

next year like

they'll just box them all out

or something

I'm sure

they're already

concocting

like city council's

sit down and be like

alright cool

next year when this happens

we're going to bring out

the special operations

vehicle

block all of the exits

and we're just going to

start calling tow truck

companies and they're going

to come in and just

swipe all these out of here

and we're going to impound

all of this shit

how well that'll fly

I don't know

but maybe they'll

use that as a deterrent

I'll put it this way

like another stuff

like we don't go to this

but ocean city

used to be a really big

place for

car people

not like our car

people but like

more JDM stuff

not that that's a bad thing

and that city had enough

with the riffraff

and they just

shut that event down

they made it like

impossible for people

to go there

if your car was lowered

you got cited like

500 bucks

you had exhaust

you got cited

like they just

priced them out

like they just

basically

I mean

essentially you could

do that

because it's California

and they have the most

strict laws on everything

they could hit them

with everything

like noise ordinance

and maybe that would work

but I mean

if they're wealthy kids

maybe they don't care

but you take it enough

people

eventually they're going

to be like man

that place sucks

do the cops harass us

and maybe that's what

they'll have to do unfortunately

like they'll have to make

almost kind of

a harassment vibe

like if you're

but it shouldn't be

an issue

if you don't do anything stupid

yeah but I mean

the only time I could see

like that being

a big deal

is when they do all

the supercar things

and it's just

like

that's inviting

because it's cool

it's different

there's stuff you haven't seen

yeah

it's just attracting new people

those new people

are just non-disciplined

yeah I just don't know

I guess they did

but they wanted to

I'm glad that we're not the ones

having to make a decision

on how this gets fixed

because it definitely needs

to get fixed

because

even some of the

like

people that I know

that are a little bit

younger than us

that were going

they were telling me

people

and they were

and you know

they're younger than us

and they're like

dude

I'm all for

like

yeah power just went out

good thing we're on battery

that doesn't matter here

yeah

but it's weird

because

even those people

when those kinds of people

like

that are supposed to be

peers of those people

yeah

and the sensible ones

of that

crowd

says they're uncomfortable

that's a problem

they're like

hey I'm all for about

you guys having fun

but this is insane man

like

it's like so bad

where

cars can't even leave

parking lots

because there's so many people

with their phones out

like literally just standing

in front of the cars

because it's a Bugatti

and they won't

like let them leave

they're like

not being respectful

like nobody's

you know

and they're like

hey can you move

like

and they're barely like

moving because

they're like

so many people there

and it's not like

oh like

there's like

three guys

surrounding the car

and people are just trying to drive

it's

it made me uncomfortable

to even see some of these videos

I was like

this isn't

this isn't saying

what is this

yeah

well I'm just making you

not want to drive your car down there

or even attend

yeah

right

so like what I was

going back to what I was saying

the people that they

want to be there

are going to not

want to go

and then they just

go ahead

and they don't even

announce dates

it's just like

invite only

it's super

what it's going to do

unless you have a pass

they're probably going to

they will step it up

because the people will pay for it

and they'll be like

look

do you have an ID to even be here

like you need a seven day ID

like everybody

that's supposed to be

in this area has an ID

they all send

you know

Carmel sent it to everybody

who's supposed to be here

you're not supposed to be here

and they just turn people around

like that's like

the point of entry

like that's the

almost the way

the only way you could do it

really

like right we're on like

right when you come in

right by that

in an outburger

you know exactly

right by the water

just block that road off

and just check in IDs

local

if you're local

okay yeah

you live in here

and it's going to be

super inconvenient

it's going to back up like crazy

but it'll keep everybody

out of that shit

you're welcome Carmel

and then

hear it out

all the people will just be

like this is stupid

I'm not waiting in this line

it's like hey

thanks for driving

all the way here

head home

wonder where we learned that from

yeah

I did

all right

yeah it's just pretty

wild man

it's just

and everything

fortunately that we go to

most of the people

I mean because we go to

Porsche stuff

and like I'm not again

it never gets that way

I don't think it's

I don't think so

but I think it takes

I mean I'm done

done things

I was

you just reminded me

you unlocked a memory

for me

I was

on the El Camino

and

my friend Billy

was at a Burger King

for no reason

I'm out of red light

he's like

I just did a burnout

right there

that's understandable

I mean that's what young people do

but see the difference was

is like you didn't have to

go to an event to do that

like you just did that

that's fine

I'm all for that

like that's where that

shit should happen

because that's like

all right you're not

disturbing everybody

now if you're that clown

who's doing one at

every red light

like come on dude

like I remember my first beer

all right like

the first one you did

was okay like

you gotta do one

at every red light now

like what are you doing man

like you know

you can't afford those tires

what are you doing

thanks dad

yeah what are you doing

yeah so

who knows what's gonna

happen with that

I'm just glad that

I don't have any of those

like memories of that

crap

again we go to

we go to big events

and

you know I would say

not even just the riff

raff I just think

Car Week's gotten

really really crowded

like a lot of events

we stopped going

to events that

get super crowded

I think

at least for me

and maybe when you

haven't experienced a lot

of events

and maybe you're young

or you're just like

that kind of like energy

but I feel

the most of our peers

and the people we know

are more attracted to

more

of a

low-key event

meaning like it's fine

if there's a bunch of people

there but it's

it's almost like

if you know you know

like to be there

events

and not even like

oh it has to be

just like

just kind of like

hey it's

it was a word of mouth

invite

you know there's 30 cars

here and that's it

and

I feel like most of us

like that vibe

where it's not too much

like rah rah

and

and also

when the

events are smaller

like that

usually if there's

a jackass there

you could find them

real fast

you know because

there's not that many

people

and they're like dude

who is that dude

who invited that guy

so there's another

I guess

benefit to having

a smaller event

I don't know

I've always been that way

I've never been like

hey dude let's go down

and there's gonna be

like 10,000 people there

like I hear that

I'm like dude

I have no interest

in doing that

like immediately I run into

like how the hell are we

gonna even get down there

like what is that

gonna look like

we're not even

gonna be able to

get out of there

like why

do you even want to go to

that

but some people are

attracted to that

kind of stuff man

I just don't

it's to make any sense

what are the things

they might get to see

which is

are the cooler things

yeah

you know people are like

oh it was so cool

like it was so many

people there

and it's like

that's a stat thing

just like a thousand horsepower

yeah

it was like 20,000 people

there

exactly right

exactly

it was one of those

20,000

I'm gonna see everything

they haven't

they haven't figured it

out yet right

till it

something turns

the wrong way

and all of a sudden

then you're like trapped

pushed forward

you're no longer walking

that's when you're like

alright this is not

the move

yeah

I mean even

rent sport

was a big event

there was a lot of people

but you know what

it didn't feel

out of control

I think because

the way they handle

they know how to

how to do that shit

it's a big area

yeah

and then just

the days

that you also

attend make a difference

and then

it's not

all

just cordon

to

well

it's you know

it's spread out more

yeah

but I mean

Loops is a big event

there's a lot of people

go to that

it doesn't get out of hand

like it's

I don't see

tell me about it

when you come back

yeah

I'm sure it'll be fine

bro burn out

rev battles

yes

rev it

what's the point of that

like I know

a lot of it's like

jokes

like I know

they're trying

like most of the people

joking to try to egg

somebody on

but

just see if they

actually do it

I don't know

it's

like

like doing like this

but

and then the next thing

I see too

maybe it's an age thing

for me

I don't understand

where

every single

broccoli head

that's there

every single

one of them's recording

so like none of them

know each other

like they all need

to be recording it

on their own phone

like everybody

joking by this

every single person

has their phone out recording

so they're all making

what

their own content

they're all

thousands of people

at this thing

making shitty

iPhone content

what

millions and millions of people

so

I just

somebody cares

you can't be in the moment

dude

you gotta

watch the moment

through the glass

they're in the moment

yeah

I'm part of the story bro

because I'm recording it

right

that's what they think

now man

so

onto another topic

sounds crazy

but we're closing

on August

so PSA

if you're going to a rally

make sure you

get your car in

because

don't be trying to

get your car in it

last minute

make your independent

being like

hey

I need tires

like tomorrow

cause I rally

next weekend

it's like

cool man

that's not gonna happen

so

we sue this every year

and I'm not

gonna stop

saying it

because

no kidding

September will be here

and rally season is

there's

people hosting rallies

in September

so

make sure it happens

and

you know

so on and so forth

it sneaks up on you

like oh it's August

but dude

by the time

August is almost over dude

yeah it's almost done

which is nuts

you do anything

to the

either the cars

did you really

have to prep anything

I don't think for

new suspension

still gonna go in

on

the

when they come back

from the shop

I have to take that

the GT3

to Cori

to have that

for our rally

for foreign

I definitely want to get

the 993 at least

looked at

I think the camber

is a little aggressive

it could just be in my head

I think it might need

a front end

alignment

it's not like walking

but the steering wheel

is like

at like

11 o'clock

instead of 12 o'clock

so

maybe just

a little adjustment there

and maybe that's

all I need

and maybe that's what

I'm feeling

but I don't know

but

I'm probably gonna

take that to him

Cori next week

he's busy everybody

so

don't take cars there

things

yeah right

yeah don't

he's busy right now

with rally prep stuff

but the nice thing

is

I don't

knock on wood

I don't think

the 993

needs

anything ordered

I just think

it needs to get

maybe on the

wood

that car should be

fine

suspension

is being sorted

like

you know

ordered right now

I guess

use the best way to say it

and it'll come back

they'll put it on

they'll do

same thing

camber

and alignment

and then

the GT3 will be done

so like

the same place

as my stuff

the suspension

or just order stuff

for a suspension

no

you mean the guy

who's rebuilding it

or whatever

so it's

it's gonna be with him

and then it should be back

and like I said

it goes in the car

and then

you know

just dialing that in

you're so good

you're not

you're not ready

I'm not ready

it's not

you're not ready

so good

I know

I'll be like

dude I was driving a tractor

before

and keeping up with you guys

how is this even possible

it's like

look at

look

fast as fuck

boy

fast as fuck

look at me

this is how GT3 is supposed to handle

they're like

what were you driving before

I was like

dude I was all over the place

booty was walking the whole time

they're like

nah it's not supposed to do that

I'm like

cool

but yeah

so

then get your stuff fixed

getting my stuff fixed

getting ready for rally stuff

I was gonna check my brake pads

but now it looked

I was like

pretty much full

full brake bed width

so I think

yeah

I was like

I usually last pretty good

for

like

even with aggressive driving

I mean

yeah

that's the only time you're ever aggressive with it

really

so

yeah it should be fun

looking forward to it

um

bottom rallies

I mean it'd be interesting to see

as many people went

to this car

week event

there's probably gonna be a lot of

people on the east coast

not

not probably

there will be

I'll just change that

a lot of people on the east coast

in the mountains

at Loof

doing whatever

um

it should be good though

I'm really really hoping

because it's always so hot here

and I bitch about this every year

I'm really hoping for good weather

like meaning

cooler temperatures

I don't want some

freak

warm phase

when we're up in North Carolina

like when we're

like

oh it's unseasonally

you know like

they love it up there

they say that crap all the time

when they're like

it's unseasonally warm today

it's like 80 degrees

no it's not great

we came up here because

we wanted 60

at least

it'll be like cold stab here too

yeah

and that's actually happened to us too

where we've

we've gone up there

and it's

I won't say it's actually cooler

but it was actually nice here

when we went up there

it wasn't like bad temps

it was like

55, 60

and it was also like

60 here

and it's kind of like

and then we come home

and it's like 85

I'm like awesome

like we missed

our good weather

anyways that's just

me bitching and moaning

about that stuff

what happens

we'll out

yeah

you said you wanted to talk about

something

what were you talking about

like some car maker

no there was another rest

resto mod

that I was like

oh I'm pretty much overseeing

any of these

somebody did a speedster

and

what I think

is a British racing green

over

like a dark brown interior

okay

it looked like it had the

same wheels

that singer used

back in the day

for their for their cars

it looked super clean

they kept the interior almost

almost a stock

what models

G-Body

964

993

I think it was a

let me look

actually

I'm

I'm wanting to think it was

993 based for some reason

and that's another thing too

I'm sure there's a lot of people

that saw

cars

there's a lot of people that

go to car week

that built a car

that don't pay for a booth

and like launch it

and they just drive it around

or have somebody drive it around

until somebody buys it

well I mean just a drum of interest

right so that

that also happens

we've seen that

outside of portion news

I think this is pretty cool

and I think there's

obviously a ton of room for it

did you see

that there's

that Lamborghini brown

they're relaunching

like the Diablo Resto Mod

like this

basically they're taking Diablos

I mean it's not like

they're just making something

from scratch

refreshing them

but they're changing body

almost like a singer

for Diablos

I mean everybody that saw

has seen singer has done

I mean once we saw that

once I saw that F1 dude

I was like here we go

we're gonna see

anything that was big

it's hard to get

it'll be

so Lambo like this company

this Italian

and they look great

they're actually like awesome

I mean the Diablo

looked already great anyways

but they refreshed it

I think there's a lot of room for it

yeah there's a lot

I mean we could talk about

a lot of them

I mean now there's companies

doing alpha Romeos

there's companies doing

Lancia deltas

you know Stratos

like Alfa's doing Alfa's

you know I'm not trying to

leave anybody out

we know that this is existing

but it's

I think this is the first

time I've seen anybody

outside of the

Lamborghini factory

refreshing a car

that has taken that on

to make something

and I have never been

in one

but from the people that

own them

and from the thing

that I watched on it

they had compared

two of them right next

to each other

I think it was actually

internet top gear

it did it

no offense to Lamborghini

but

same thing with Porsche

they didn't have a lot of money

back then

and they were making cars

and

the things were pretty

wonky looking inside

and people just

used to slap the phrase on it

and you get a part in

almost kind of like

oh well it's Italian

so it's

it's weird

and it's

it's part of

it's part of the Lamborghini

charm

that's what they would say when

you have panel gaps

as big as your hand

almost kind of how

we were accusing Tesla

of all the crap

that they were doing right

like hey look at the

panel gaps on this

it's like oh it's just

part of Tesla

it just turns into

one of those things

it's like

oh don't worry about

Jake he beats his wife

that's just Jake being

Jake you know

like kind of thing

and it's like dude

that's not okay

just because the interior

on the car is junk

and it's Lamborghini

doesn't mean it's

oh it's just Lamborghini

like dude

you could

it's okay to be

to call it junk

because it is junk

but

the thing about that car is

it's never been a secret

the secret sauce of that car

is the v12 right

like and then

they have great design

that's never been an issue

they've always had

great sketch artists

great design

the functionality

of all that design

is a whole other thing

but the way it looks

good

engine

super cool

everything else

we'll figure it out

right that's always

how it's been

until it got

you know more modern

but like in that era

that's what it was

unlimited tooling

dude it's not like that

that's mean

that's an evident

especially when you have

a lack of funds

like that's another thing

like you can't sit there

and say okay well

we're gonna spend

a hundred million dollars

on interior

when you don't even

have a hundred million

dollars for like

interior design

or client base

that's gonna be willing

to pay the money

exactly

so it's like

you're cutting corners

where you can

and anyways my point

is those cars

are of all the cars

that need a resto mod

like those

Lamborghini period

like era cars

especially from

an interior standpoint

definitely need to be

upgraded

well the factory

I mean my old thing

I always go back to this

too is like

I guess the manufacturers

can't reproduce

those cars

yeah I mean so

there has to be

a resto mod movement

to

give these a new life

yeah

at a smaller

rate of

production

and then

I think what

hinders that market

more than anything

is the low production

so

Porsche had a

high production right

so they were able to

like singer

was able to

capitalize on

like so many chassis

so it's even worse

yeah so you have

and also

you have to change

people's minds

you actually have

a pretty nice

let's say you have a nice

Lamborghini Diablo

and it's actually

been looked after

and it's in a cool color

and it's

maybe only got

a hand

you know

several thousand miles

on it

yeah it would go

for a nice

resto mod upgrade

and probably look awesome

but then

that's such

foreign territory

like

there's no proof

that that actually

adds value to the car

so like there's fear

that it would take

value away from the car

yeah there's nobody

that's doing tuning

you know

singer has the ability

now

and I think the jury

was still even out then

even when people were

paying those high prices

until the first few

started hitting

open auctions

and we were like

holy shit that singer

just sold for a million

dollars

and that guy paid

500 for it

he doubled his money

so there is value

in it

so

until that happens

like

yeah until like

well the proof is

in the pudding

when some of these

that they've already

resto modded

if somebody buys one

number

even compared to like

the nicest one

that's unmodified

then it's like

okay now the market

has spoken

yes there's value

to this

until that actually happens

I think that people

that own those cars

are going to be very skeptical

to say

yeah go chop my

3000 mile Lamborghini

Diablo

that has

you know

Lego

computer

like

push button

things in it

for the radio on it

and resto modded

make it look nice

no I'll just keep

talking about their investment

right like

clearly not driving that car

we wouldn't be pre-revenue

we don't want to be worth

anything

it's exactly

pre-revenue

but I mean

I think it's cool

I mean

being just a car enthusiast

I love seeing

stuff like that

I mean it's

so what are you

so

money no option

your design

now

so what chassis do you do

and like

like restore

like I know

like current state

like

I think it's hard to do

because like

Porsche

I think the Porsche

world's so saturated

so that's like

out

essentially

I don't know

I really like what

Lanza anti does

like I would

I don't know

the depths of it

because obviously

I'm no

Prevy to

being a design

house of what they're

capable of

but I would

I would focus on

not one chassis

what I would do

is I love what they do

is just take

cars

and make them street legal

like I love that

like that is so cool

you're reminding me

I don't know if you've seen

I don't know if it's

going everywhere

the 550 Maranel

the race car

do you know

the story behind that car

or like so

the Ferrari

wasn't going to build a car

so that

some dealer

just grabbed a regular

550

off and then

built it into that

they did all their

modifications like

all the carbon

all their stuff

they did that

built their race car

and that's

so

there's room for that

too I guess

yeah

but yeah

let's see some more

Ferraris do that too

yeah I mean

basically anything

like Lanzante

is really doing

I kind of really

like their concept

of

oh it's not road legal

we'll make it road legal

like almost like

I would

and not just

anything

I mean obviously

it's got to have

some kind of like

love or

it would be cool to take

like

the 962s that

road legal

and make them

road legal

like 935s that

weren't road legal

and make them road legal

like for clients

they have to be

in their livery that they

race to

they have to be

like kind of make those

rules

I know you want this car

but here's how we're

going to play this

almost kind of like

near us

like how AJR

does like

restoration for

race cars

and just brings them

back to race form

like I would like

to do all of that

but then make it

road legal

on top of it

but essentially like

make it a race car

like maybe

hey

and find a way

and have the clients

with the pockets

to do it

to say hey yeah

we can put an

electric AC in here

I didn't have one before

like some creature comfort

it's not like

a ridiculous amount

but it's still going to

be race car e

but like

hey you can drive

this on the road

the gears

are going to

blow your ears off

because they're still

super short

there's nothing

you can do about that

and they're straight cut

so you're going to

have a client

that's kind of like

almost like Fred

you know like

where he took that 935

and he took it to

Lozante like

he's deep in that

he's making race cars

he's got that

Pagani

Wyra R

that was only

race form

they made it street legal

like that kind of

cool like really

wild

race car

only shit

like I would

like to do that

because like I said

like all that other

stuff like

oh I'm going to

rest on this

like dude that

was honestly

so we all tried to do

and even if you pick one chassis

I think you

what I've learned

from just anything

just picking one thing

you really box yourself up

by doing that

like I would

I would just be open

how they're kind of

just a race house

which is cool

like this

you know they did

they've been in racing

for so long

so like

it's like

they're a different story

but I'm just saying

I would love to do

stuff like that

they took

you know

McLaren F1s

they were

decommissioned

because now longer

could be raced

and it was just

kind of like

okay cool

like I just like that

thought process of like

okay this is a badass car

like why does it not

get to not do anything

other than historic racing

anymore

like that's stupid

like let's make this

thing road legal

and not just

some random

ass cup car

you know it's like

go go to cup car

let's make it street legal

it's like come on man

like there's a million

of these like

no like let's do

something you know

cool and wild

yeah like almost kind of

you know

even BMW stuff

like were they only made

like a handful of those

like

Z8 race cars

with V8s

and stuff like

Bish has one

like make that street

legal like those kinds

of like wild things

like that

oh BMW

only made

you know

three GTRs

to race

the E46 series

and they put

V8s in them

and dude

make that car

street legal

yeah Peter

something

but yeah

like just

cool stuff like that

like it doesn't have to be

brand specific

it just has to be cool

I think

and how cool

that's the kind of stuff

it gets me going

like not the

we're open at the race car shop

not the

you know

and not that they're not nice

you know the Bugatti

Zing Do Do

whatever the hell it's called

it's got

W12

with 17

turbos on it

and you know

36 radiators

made by CSF

because it needs

all this cooling

and then

you know

in certain winds

mountain

like literally

and it's like

dude it's cool

like whatever man

like I don't

I'm just

maybe I'm just old school

I don't need

like kind of

I don't need that shit man

like that

they're pretty to look at

I have

none of that stuff

revs my engine

these go with 10 turbos

yeah

just one dude

one big one

like off a diesel

truck

like on the front of it

like I like

weird stuff

like that too

like we're

you know

not that everything

Diardo

you know

chassis

that have a blown up motor

and then they go put

like a

Cummings diesel in it

or something

like just

I don't know

like I'm

not that that's a special car

but like weird stuff

like that's kind of cool

I don't know

I just like that

weird stuff like that

but definitely race car

like motorsport

I've always been

motorsport driven

like if it's motorsport

I'm definitely interested

right

like and even

all of those can-am cars

that ran

like there's so many of

them

like Camaros that ran

in those series

and I'm not talking about

like recently

I'm talking about

like early 2000

ones

that look like Corvettes

and Camaros still

that run this

monster

LS motor

dude street legal

those things

those would be so cool

how cool is that

they have a small

series that they're

doing they're

bringing back

like

like I'd like to

find all those

cars that ran

in the JTC

stuff in Tokyo

and like

and all over Japan

that only

ran in those challenges

and make those cars

street legal

like how

sick would that be

like dude you're like

no this car

actually raced in that

series

now it's street legal

like we made it

street legal

like

yeah they're like

we want it back

um

but yeah

like all of that stuff

man there's so many

cool race series

that were like

prominent race series

that mattered

and like

you could just

go through the list

like literally

just look at the

kind of like

John Timurian

does with

Lambos

but you could do that

with race cars

be like

wow look at this

team they

had a

1997

injury

entry into Lamar

and they raced

two of whatever

where are those

cars at now

and this like

go chase them down

and like

make them

in street legal

and I don't know

like it would just

be cool to do that

for clients

that were

on board

um

because they're

the pros at it

um

but yeah

I mean

it's not like

this is the first time

they've ever done it

like they

they did that

with back

I mean

think about how long

the McLaren F1's

been around for

so when that car

got decommission

they made

so they've

they've been doing

it for a while

like they're

just not sitting

around like

twiddling

their thumbs

hoping something

like they do

their own stuff

whatever

they

I think they're a design house

I don't even know

exactly what they

like refer to themselves as

but they're badass

do you see Derek

Whitaker's

thing

like he

posted

he saw that

tag

go for

one

seven

one eight

he's like

my car's for sale

500 grand

right now

he was just

talking about

the prices

like even

in a world

that that motor

you still

spend a million dollars

on an SC

he's like

you can have mine

for 500 grand

taking offers

DM me

I was like that's

I mean he's not wrong

and he also

I mean he's a smart guy

he knows how the world works

I mean

I agree with him

it isn't an

asinine place

and like it's nuts

to think about

what people are

willing to pay

for certain things

but

rarity talks man

and it just

just matters

like yes

essentially

you've got

1.75 million

motor

and you've got the shell

for free

it's the better way

to look at that

because that's what

you really

raise prominence

and all that

you've got a

Williams F1 motor

for 1.7 million

dollars

and you

they threw in

a chassis

for you to drive it

around

because that's

essentially what

that car is

I mean

I'm not saying

the car overall

is not nice

but you're

paying

to move it around

to remind me

I just saw something

too recently

we're talking

about everything

the Williams car

way back in the day

like the 90s

maybe late 80s

car

they invented

the CBT

transmission

yeah I know

you saw that

thing

that

do you see that

guy's comment

he goes

sounds like a

WW2

boy

it doesn't like

good

it's like

it just

stays there

13 cars on the grid

all sounding like that

that would sound

terrible

it's like

is the U.S.

bombing

Germany again

like what's happening

right now

like B-52 Fortresses

are in the sky

whoa

like

yeah but it's

I mean a lot of

I mean people that

are enthusiasts

like us

and listen to us

they understand this

a lot of this stuff

it's even on the road

is all derived

from race technology

like the layman

has no idea

is one way or another

funneled down

I agree with you

that we should reverse

this whole process

instead of going

trying to make our street cars

and erase cars

and make our race cars

and erase cars

yeah

they're

generally cheaper

I mean they figured

out a way to do it

I mean those cars

don't have street vans

like they

they have the money

they have the

the means

they know how to do it

same way they were

doing it back in

the original

the difference is

with special enough

cars where people are willing

to pay

the price

for them to do

what they need to do

and that's the difference

because to homologate

those things

is not cheap

so there's

that's part of it

right so

but to have

something unique

like Fred's gonna have

he has

only the second

935

in the world

that's road legal

right now

or the second made

I should say

and then when

is Pagani Wira

I mean it's already

made in a street

I think it's

being delivered

as we speak

at some point during the

summer

it's gonna be the

only one

it's ever made

street legal

so

from a collective

standpoint

you can see what

he's chasing

like

he's not

he obviously has

a lot of other

special cars

but he's

doubled down on that

right like

people are like

oh why doesn't

he go and

you know

he

buy a CGT

like if you don't

I mean they made like

what 1200 own

he's buying like cars

he's at the level

in his car buying

where he's like

I want like one of two

one of one

like

type of things

like that's where he's at

but he's not doing it

like

oh I want to buy

some

Duesenberg

that was made

for the

Vanderbilt's with

you know

gold crusted

whatever

like he's buying

like race cars

that were never

made for the road

and making

that go with

in conjunction with

legal

which is insane

and awesome

all at the same time

you know

it's not like

oh I'm just going to go buy

a

Huracan STO

and throw like a twin

turbo on it

and make 3000 horsepower

it's like

cool man

you're just like everybody

else who's

like do she like that

who wants to do that

like do something

actually like

super cool

he's like

yeah I'm taking a race car

and make it straight legal

you know

and some people are like

oh that's dumb

it's like

that's pretty badass dude

yeah

well it's like

it's

show them another one

right there

I mean

let's

snatch up

call up

what's his name from

Weathertech

and see if we can get

our hands on some of

those RSRs and make

those street legal

be like hey man

let's make these

street legal dude

you got

you have RSRs

let's do this

you have a helicopter

pad

yeah let's make them

street legal

mark my words

watch

he's probably

second time

like what's

I mean what's the hurt

in making it straight legal

I can go back to a race car

anytime

yeah

well

yeah like you said

it could

it can go on to the track

whenever it wants

that doesn't change anything

so

you just know where

he's going left or right

yeah

like what

maybe take the fire

suppression system out

but that can be put back

in what

a few hours maybe

I don't know

super cool though

I love that idea

I mean

just think about the

endless possibilities

the general populace

even if you're just

taking them to shows

like people will say

oh well you can just

take a race car there

but I'm saying

like you could drive it

if you were like

that kind of like a person

all of the race cars

not even just from Porsche

but from any make

and model that

you're a friend

a fan of

over the last

40 or 50 years

making them

like road legal

like how badass

this big giant

machine

and you're like

your wife or

partner's like

what's that going

in the garage

so it was like

warm

you got tire warmers

like on the car

it just sits on out

there in air jacks

she's like

what are these tanks out here

you're like

oh that's actually to pressurize

my air jacks

just like

all this like new stuff

like that you didn't need

before

but you have to have

just make the car

operate

got some friends coming over

our entire team

sleeping over

they're wheeling a

what is that a toolbox

you're like

actually that's a

freestanding computer

that I have to hook up

to this thing

can't believe they made that

in the 80s can you

it still works

yeah

but I mean

how cool would that be

just like

there's so many cool cars

that make some models

that everybody's made

that are retired

right

because they run that series

a series changes

it ends

and then those cars

get

funneled down into

they just change the rules

and they just can't run

that's what I mean

and then the cars

you know

it's already built

so then

a couple things

happen to them right

like usually they run

different series

for a little bit

especially if they're

high-end cars

and then once those series

change

and newer cars

come out for that

then they go down

and they get retired to

pretty much like

nothing for a little bit

and then they qualify

for some type of historic

eventually if they're

still around

and then somebody

buys them and runs them

in historic

and then that's

pretty much

that's it

that's their life

that's all they do

and you know

if you're really

well maybe you'll run

a DE

eventually with it

or you know

like a club race

here and there

but

that's their life

after that

but

I would love to

have a company

that could change that

U.S. one man

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