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About this episode
Exploring the evolution of car reveals, this episode dives into the recent changes at car week, highlighting the rise of exclusive events like The Quail where manufacturers unveil new models. The hosts discuss Gunther's striking new flat nose concept boasting a staggering 1,000 horsepower and Roof's tribute model, comparing their design philosophies and engineering approaches. They also touch on the rowdy atmosphere at car week, the challenges of maintaining its charm, and the potential for future bespoke automotive creations that blend race heritage with street legality.
Topics:
car week reveals
gunther flat nose
roof tribute model
event atmosphere
bespoke automotive creations
engineering philosophies
exclusive events
design comparisons
automotive culture
Cars:
Alpina Z8
BMW 3 Series
Chevrolet Camaro
Chevrolet Corvette
Lamborghini Diablo
Lamborghini Huracan
Lancia Delta
Lancia Stratos
McLaren F1
Nissan GT-R
Porsche 928
Porsche 935
EP 257
- Thank our people
- Specs: 1000 hp, 4.0L twin turbo, 2700 lbs
- Discussion: Pretty cool looking build
- Context: Gunther has come a long way in development
- Comparison: Singer also has a turbo study, but Gunther is making more powerful cars at this point
- Specs: 3.6L, 543 horsepower, 2800 lbs
- Production: Only 50-100 cars over next 5 years
- Availability: Likely already spoken for
- Also Featured: Ruf Rodeo - their take on the current Safari craze
- Reports: This year was one of the "rowdiest" car weeks
- Issues:
- People fighting and brawls
- Lots of car vandalism
- Attributed to younger generation attendees
- Host Commentary: "Get your shit together, your gen is looking like ass out there"
- Timing: Rally season approaching (end of August)
- Prep Reminder: Get cars buttoned up now
- Services Needed:
- Tires
- Brakes
- Alignment
- Support: Help your independent shops, book appointments early
- Warning: Don't be last-minute with rally prep
- Atmosphere: Described as "rich boy SOWO vibes"
- Scale: Massive crowds and exotic car turnout
- Problem Areas: Spontaneous gatherings (In-N-Out Burger with 100+ cars)
- Prediction: Major changes coming after this year's issues
- Carmel's Position: City won't tolerate continued problems
- Current Structure:
- Most events require tickets
- Many are invite-only
- But public spaces still get overwhelmed
- Assessment: Social media is "ruining stuff like this"
- Alternative Approach: Focus on smaller, intimate events that aren't "blown out"
- Personal Policy: Stopped attending events that have gotten too big and "lost their way"
- How does Car Week get control of the situation?
- Is it possible to avoid having a Car Week at all?
- The balance between accessibility and maintaining event quality
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Let's get right into it.
So car week just happened.
A lot of, if you're not paying attention to the
automotive world and, you know, because you have a life,
but like things have changed dramatically.
And this isn't just this year, but it's, it's been working
this way over the last decade to last 15 years.
And COVID definitely helped this happen.
But a lot of auto manufacturers don't really go to
conventions anymore and release a new vehicle or, you
know, they go to the, it used to be the Geneva
convention show that for Europeans, they would put
something out special Detroit Motor Show used to do
stuff, you know, for the domestics.
And they still have those like events, but they're at
a much smaller scale.
Auto manufacturers who spend millions and millions
of dollars to have like a sexy booth and all this
stuff and make a big to do about it.
Car week has turned into kind of the unconventional
release for most auto manufacturers and then
boutique builders to reveal their new
concept slash stuff they're going to sell to people
and they usually do it at the quail.
It's funny because the quail used to just be like
a really cool party with really cool cars on the
lawn and then it kind of manifested into, it still
has really cool cars, but now there's
manufacturers buying space to reveal.
It's a big ad.
Yeah.
It's a huge, it's turned into, and it's an
exclusive event.
It's not one of those things where you can just
walk in and show up.
You have to pre-buy tickets.
It's like there's an invite list.
There's layers to it.
And it's, it can be complicated, but I guess
they're showing it and making sure the right
people are viable potential candidates,
essentially, instead of just gockers and
tiktokers and social media.
I mean, you'd probably still get it, but you also
get free ad.
Yeah, I mean, I think there's, I think they
filter that in the sense of you have to be
at a higher level, right?
To be in there.
You can't just be some startup.
It's like, hey, give me a shot.
It's like, dude, great.
We did, you're not going to try to build a
brand at this event.
That's not going to happen.
More of kind of like a Schme or
something, somebody who already has millions
and millions of followers, very known for
exotic car stuff, like somebody where
that audience, it makes sense.
Anyways, the whole reason I bring that up
is there was a couple of reveals at that
event.
Gunther revealed their new flat nose
concept.
It's a twin turbo, four liter, some
stats on the car.
It's pretty insane.
Car weighs 2,700 pounds and makes 1,000
horsepower.
That's like a, that is a fighter jet.
It's going to move.
It looks pretty cool too.
Have you seen pictures of it?
I think it's probably the best looking
modern rendition of a flat nose.
I'm a normal me, which is kind of like,
it's cool.
Yeah.
I think they got it 80%, right?
Like it looks cool.
What do you think is off for you?
The wheel, like there's a,
kind of stands with the wheels.
I think the wheels look, of all the
wheels they make, the wheels on this
one look great.
I don't know.
I think, if I have to give it a
downgrade on anything, it might be
a little bit of their, their
interior is a little busy.
Yeah.
But it's that modern dig.
I think that's, that's still.
No, I know what they're going after.
I'm just saying for me, I just think
the steering wheel looks a little,
you're almost, it almost gives the
vibe that you're trying too hard.
You know, like it's just, sometimes
there's some like niceness and the
simplicity and, and I know what
they're doing from a manufacturer
standpoint is that car's millions of
dollars.
So they're trying to make you feel
like you're, but I don't think that's
necessary.
Like Singer has found a way to make
a very special interior, but not
make it look busy.
To keep it understated.
But it's still very all super
expensive shit.
I don't mean, and I don't, I'm not
saying not busy equals not expensive
and not quality material.
Not cheap.
It's still great stuff.
And I know Gunther's doing great
stuff.
I just think it, it's a little
too much.
Maybe like, I don't know if that's
just a reflection of the staff.
There's a little bit younger maybe
and they're taking a different take
on it.
I don't know what that is, but I
mean, it's not like a huge demand.
It's not like a big turnoff.
It's just one of those things.
It's kind of like, I could use a
little bit less like, I don't know
the, and maybe it's just
optically for me.
When I look at seats, I don't
like where there's seven different
broken up cushions in a seat
in a bucket.
Like that for me, that just looks
weird.
Like I just don't like that look.
It seems like.
Same for me with those m seats that
have the holes in them.
Yeah.
Like where it's like, I understand
maybe it's lightweight or something
or just design choice.
It's like.
Yeah.
Almost like old school, like
not even that old school, like
05 GT, 4 GT where it had like
those big ring holes in the
seat where it doesn't hurt
you.
But it look, I don't know.
I think it looks strange.
Yeah.
That is a throwback to what they
were doing.
Yeah.
But yeah.
That makes sense.
Are you, can they make pop ups?
Is that, is that I mean.
Yeah.
Because there's that place in
Italy that redid the 928 and
those are pop ups that are still
on.
I mean, they could do them.
I mean, but I mean, I liked
what they did with the car.
I think it actually looks really
good on, on the 993 chassis.
Like the, the flat nose on it,
especially as wide as the
fenders are.
Believe it or not, I think that
car actually looks better than
it does with the circular
headlights, like the normal
frog eyes.
Yeah.
Because that car basically is
just a rendition of their
turbo study that they have,
which makes a crap ton of power
too.
They just turned it up and
they said now it's a
thousand.
I mean, you and I can speak
from this because we were in
California kind of when they
were launched their first
prototype and we got to see it
firsthand, like the actual one,
the mule.
Man, they have come a long way
since then.
Yeah.
That's true.
But that's what, that's what
hard work does.
So like kudos to them for
that.
Initially it seemed a little
strange and it's not like they
got here overnight.
Like anything, they busted
their ass, hired right
engineers and I'm sure they
fired a lot of engineers and
there's probably been a lot
and they just keep moving the
needle forward.
And in this particular thing
that they've made now, I
mean, even the engine bay with
the way that the whole engine
design like is all unique to
what they're doing, it's an
incredible car.
I know it's got an incredible
price tag, but I think it's
pretty cool for what it is.
So it looks like the 993 body
was a good choice then.
Like is it really adapted to
everything they wanted to do
with it?
Yeah.
And honestly, like, and
again, not to make, this
whole show is not about them
by the way.
So I just, I'm just saying
this because I know I've
talked trash about them in
the past about certain
cars that they have.
And I will still stand by
that.
Like, I'm not a fan of their
speedster look.
I think it looks a little
wonky.
That's just my personal
opinion.
You know, different strokes
for different folks, whatever.
But this, this turbo study
they've done is like awesome.
The engine, then it's awesome.
The lightweight 993 build,
the coupe one, I like that
too.
It's for me, I think the
reason why initially when
their cars first came out
like they did their own
spinoff of the Fooke.
And it just didn't, it didn't
look right, I guess, maybe
because a car was just too
big.
Like, meaning the fenders were
like their contact patches
were too big and it was
almost, it just didn't seem
right.
But anyways, I don't want to
spin off in that, but this
particular car, it's, I don't
know, I like the way it
looks.
I think it fills the, these
wheels go with this car.
I think they hit that spot
on.
I think the flat nose looks
right with this car.
It's a very modern take,
obviously, on a flat nose.
I mean, how, and they're
doing almost what the entire
bespoke industry is doing with
that whole like slit thing.
If you look at the radiator.
Yeah.
Well, I'm just talking about
the headlights, how they did
that.
I mean, the new Gordon Murray
concept car that they're
coming out with the F, the
the McLaren F1's being
reimagined as well.
And it has headlights kind of
like that too, like where
they're cut in.
So that's a design.
Yeah, it's a design thing
that's obviously works and
makes sense and probably
for wind tunnel purposes,
that works as well.
It's got to be, yeah.
I can't imagine
like what this thing
must be like to drive.
I mean, it must be insane.
2700 pounds
and 1000 horsepower.
I'm just going to say that
again.
Like that's insane.
I mean, there's some arrow
here.
Yeah.
I can't imagine it's like
just sucking itself down to
the road.
Yeah.
The nice part about their
vehicles, which, which I
was going to say, you know,
as I was saying all that
other stuff is their front
because they have such wide
fenders.
Like that's why their cars
can do such really good
lap times because they,
their front, I want to say
that they could put a 305 on
the front.
So that's a, that's a huge
contact patch.
That's a giant thing.
That's a, that's a 997
GT3 rear, rear tire
contact patch on the front.
So, I mean, when you're
putting that kind of power
down and you're doing those
kind of things, you need
that.
But see, they're smart
enough to have done that
and it gives, it gives them
their unique design now.
At first, when they first,
they looked kind of wonky
because they were, the
front fenders were so wide,
but it makes sense
if you're really going to
drive the car in anger
because you need that
front contact patch.
I just don't, you know,
obviously they have a very
opulent customer base.
It has a lot of money.
You and I have been to
events, air-cooled events
and actual rallies where we've
actually seen air, air-cooled
stuff there and there's a mix
and then there's actually
singers being rallied.
I've never once seen a
Gunther being rallied.
I'm not saying obviously it
has more than capable of
being rallied, but I just
don't know if that buyer
is a rally person.
They don't know they're
a driver or not.
Yeah.
Looks like they're calling
this thing the F-26 or the
firm that built it is
or their firm.
So it's going to be
26 of them.
I mean, it's insane.
Whatever.
Crazy numbers, right?
Is there a number to it?
Is it like 3, 4 million?
I think it's probably
around that.
So Roof is coming out
with a 2026.
It's weird.
They're calling it a Roof
Tribute.
That's what confused me.
So I was reading the notes
as I do every time.
And it's all that.
And I was like, what?
So it's probably going to
sound confusing because it
is.
So it's basically a tribute
to the original
Roof car that they used to
make.
And I guess maybe they're
calling it a Tribute.
And I thought about this when
I wrote it because the
newer cars that they have
are actually not
a Porsche because it's their
own wheelbase.
They've lengthened the
wheelbase.
So maybe that's what they
mean by this is going to
be like a Porsche
wheelbase car.
So maybe that's why it's
a Tribute.
Not to the narrow.
And that's what they're
making 50 to 100.
So this is supposed to be
like.
Remember when they came out
with.
Not their actual like RCF
or whatever they came out
with when they made and they
sold out sold out right away
like they made their own
carbon monocoque and they
made all that.
And it looks like a 911
but it's not a 911 that
car.
The car before that one.
Okay.
Um, was still based like on
964 chassis type stuff.
So I think that's what this
is.
And that's why they're calling
it a roof Tribute.
So it's going to be a 3.6
liter 543 horsepower.
Car's going to weigh 2800
pounds.
So it's going to be pretty
light.
Not obviously a thousand but
this is a different type of
vehicle.
And the reason why I'm
bringing this up and I kind
of want to like talk about
this a little bit and then
I kind of want to obviously
once a 993 chassis this is
a 964 chassis.
They also, the debut of their
rodeo was debuted before.
So we've seen their rodeo
concept which is basically a
safari car but they delivered
I think a rodeo at the quail
to a customer.
And no offense to their
initial car that they
launched.
I know they wanted to make it
look wild and they had like
shovels and it was in like
that burnt orange or
whatever.
But this one that they
delivered was like an all
black had like white tarmac
style wheels on it like it
looked way better in my
personal opinion.
I'm like man that's cool.
And I've seen it before but
just putting a different color
and taking all that accessories
off of it made it look really
really cool.
So again limited numbers on
these 50 to 100 I'm sure
2, 3 million maybe 4 gets it
done.
I'm not sure on that.
We'll find out.
As we talked about and how
big of fans we are on prior
episodes about roof they've
really come into their own
and leaned into this bespoke
50 to 100 cars.
They have figured out the
sauce.
I mean they were doing it
before but now like I want to
say in probably the last 10
years with the selling out of
the stuff right away they
have a lot of cash flow
coming in and they're just
riding that momentum as they
should.
They're the OG's of this
market I guess if you want
to call it that as such
thing they were the bespoke
ones from the very beginning
and you know there was
other ones out there but
they're the ones that
have the time you know like
they're still doing it from
like back then.
I think they're doing it
bigger.
They have a bigger presence
or they've started to have a
bigger presence ever since
we made the yellowbird.
Yeah.
I think that's when that
started.
And they have lineage too
right like so and like it
no matter how long any of
these other companies it
takes time.
Yeah.
So and roof will always be
ahead of that curve
because they have the time
from the 80s and the 90s
involved so I think for
people that have that
kind of wealth that like
a story I think that
there's no denying that
story right there.
They were the fastest
world in the car the fastest
car in the world.
Like it's just one of those
things like undeniable stuff
that they were doing so.
And they also make a great
product it's not just that
you're leaning on past
history stuff and like
being rewarded for things
that you used to do
you're they have you know
they're breaking barriers
with their new stuff that
they're doing as well.
Now let's compare these
two cars even though
they're different things here
for a second.
And the only thing I really
want to compare is that
do you feel like a thousand
horsepower is is just too
much like and what I mean
by that is you know
there's going to be people
like all more is more
right and we've talked
about stuff like this
before where and obviously
the gunther car is not
going to be this
obviously going to have
enough brakes to do what
it needs to do but you
can overpower a chassis
it doesn't matter like
you can overpower a chassis
the depths of like
what this article that
I was able to cipher
information from I bet it's
a progressive 1000 it's
probably not a thousand
horsepower like right at
like this was dropped the
hammer.
Yeah like you're
probably don't get it all
it's probably under load
and it's progressive
just like the turbo
like the boost is
probably progressive
still even at its peak
at a thousand on a 2700
pound chassis I think
I think it's more of a
hey we can do this
we know our customers
probably won't exercise this
and use it but do you think
from a balance from
an engineering standpoint
that maybe that
can upset that chassis
at all or
I don't know I think it's
just this thinking with it
being full carbon fiber
and all that
and as wide as it is
I think they've
I think they've thought
through it enough
and probably even turned
up their older car
that at 850 or
whatever to a thousand
and kind of sorted it out
before they even decided to put
yeah a thousand in it
but I mean even from like
I'm trying to
I'm trying to like
use my brain
and think about driving
this car and
let's just say you're in
California and since
that's where they're from
and you're driving
Angeles Crest or wherever
you're driving
and you're driving this
in anger
I mean how much throttle
are you going to
really be able to use here
I think it's just
going to be a number
you say you have
because there's I don't
think there's a place
where you're going to be
matting that thing down
and just
you know just
you'll power out too much
and so now I'm talking
now let's talk about
the other car
543 horsepower
which is a ton
still in a 911
and 2800 pounds
which is a very light car
still like
that seems more balanced
right so we're
talking about two
different houses here
and two different
thoughts and engineering
about cars
not saying one's
right or wrong
but I'm just saying like
I can't imagine
like the
I think it's more bragging rights
it has to be with the gunther
because like it's
if you're an enthusiast driver
like I would imagine
you know we talk about
want or at least me
more than anything
like being in the mountains
and when I was in the 964
bitching and moaning
about being second
between second third gear
like one's too much
you know this one's
probably geared a little
bit better
you make up for it
with the horsepower
and the boost maybe
but I'm sure there's
times or you're tight
and technical like
you're going to be
maybe too much power
like in between
gears like you're
you're never going to
go full throttle
so like
we've talked about
is it unusable
yeah like that
driving experience
where you're not
like what is that
like you're
you're quarter throttle
all the time
or like what does that look
like you're probably not
even ever going to be
full throttle on the roof
either
no probably not
I mean
I'm sure that
what the
horsepower comes
all the technology
at least I would imagine
with what the gunther
works for is
doing it
but I mean
back in the day
500 horsepower was
like astronomical
so it's just a new
it's a new yardstick
yeah
where this
it might be the norm
for down the
horsepower but I agree
even the 500 on roads
the 1000 on roads
is probably
virtually unusable
you'd need a track
and you'd need something
with some
with some miles on it
yeah
I mean
a good like
monza
something with a straight
Nürburgring
straight
I think it was just like
a flex on
what we can do
and I think
what modern
modern cars are doing
and I think Peter
maybe got
I don't want to say
caught up in that
because that's not fair
because
but you see all these
you know twin
turbo kits for
Lambos
and Audis
and people are like
oh dude yeah
it's 1200 horsepower
it's slow
it's not
no but I'm saying
they're like it's slow
it's got 1200 horsepower
like he's got
you know 3000
his car is fast
and it's like
like what
what you guys
doing with these things
like just
doing straight away runs
like
I mean
teach their own
you know
Texas mile
I get that
there's
but I mean this is
you're not buying a
$3 million car
to go out there
and do Texas mile
I mean come on
I mean
you could do it
for a lot less
you could
but I mean
you think there's a
room for a company
as many as a percent
come out
that's just like
balanced
just takes that
that's what Porsche
still do with their
GT cars
we're going to make a way
this
you get
choice in color
that's about it
I think roof
kind of does
a little bit of that
I don't think
they overcomp
I mean
their customers
can have pretty
much whatever
color they want
but most of their
customers
are not
those hot boys
that are going to
come in there
and be like
you know
I want some mystic
you know
glitter pink
really classy colors
you know
they still pop
you know
we've seen the roof
green
like that's a beautiful color
and
their interiors
I mean
I would say
compared to others
I mean
there has been
some wild
roof interior colors
but
wild is
pretty moderate
nowadays
they're wild
is pretty moderate
nowadays
like when they
were doing it
back in the day
they were
wild
compared to what
you know
the freaking eggplant
purple interior
and people like
whoa that's insane
now that's kind of like
oh no that goes
and like people
understand that now
but back in the day
people were like
that's just super wild
I think
roof is more on those
lines of anything
about balance
where they
they're like
hey
the chassis balance
the cars fast
we're trying to
develop a driving
experience
we're not chasing
a number here
like we're not
we're tracing
a car
we trust
you know
this is ample
like horsepower
you do not need more
and
is there room for that
I think they're
showing you there is
they're doing it
they're not going to have
a hard time selling
these cars
I'm sure they're
probably already
all deposited on
if not
pretty close
and they're going to
the nice thing about
them too
is that
they're going to
build 50 to 100
cars over five
years
you're going to wait
five years
until you get your car
so
in a cool way
you know
it's
they're not rushing
to get their product
out there
they know what
they bring to the table
and they're just
kind of like
hey
you want one
this is a
bespoke piece
of art
that you're
going to get
that you can drive
and you'll see it
in 60 months
dude
you know
they've chosen
17 different colors
in your head
that you think the car
is going to be
and all this other stuff
started locked in
to green, yellow
and black
and just when you think
there can't be enough
you know
I didn't write this one down
but there's an electric
company
they're calling it
the 993
like
GT
like they're going to
make it an EV
and they're
it's just going to be
a cruiser
and they're
big in the EV
market
like in
resto modding EVs
I guess
and they're going to
take their take on the 993
chassis
and
so
they're
not that
they're already hard to get
but even
going to be more hard to get
so like as
964s dry up
993s are also drying up
because there's
another player
that has entered the game
Mike's like
yep keep doing it
yeah right
I'm like
I got a 993
perfect
yeah keep doing this
no it's
it's
it's weird to think
that
you would see
a million times
like
we've had friends that just
recently bought
like a 930 turbo
and
worldwide
you look at the number
of like 930
turbos made
it was like
some crazy number
like 23,000
total in the world
you just don't see
that many of them anymore
was that a friend that
recently went to Miami
that we
picked up
um
DS
and no
okay
but
it's weird
and it's
not because
everybody's
like
obviously they got wrecked
some got parted out
some got
there's not a lot
I mean
but that's a lot
staggering number though
you think of that
just think about
like a stadium
and put 23,000 people
in it
that's like a lot of people
and then just
release them into the street
you're going to see those
people for a long time
right so
yes the world
is a big place
but I'm just
trying to do the math
like
look how few
of any of those
cars that
you see on a regular
basis
like
you know they made like
80,000 964s
you don't
oh well there's a 964
right over there
it's like
alright there's like
eight of them here
total
and there's probably
thousands of people here
that's still like a low
number
I guess
um
it wasn't that many
I think it was like
60 something thousand
but the point is
is that
these cars
I guess
everything happens to them
right like
wrecks
parted out
modded
tucked away
there's only a hand
handful of them
that are circulating
and then you can really
get in the weeds
like where people are like
I want a driver one
I don't want to buy
I don't want to spend
150 grand
like I want something
with miles
but something like
looked after
now you're really
getting specific
um
you know
I'm saying that
for me specifically
those are the kind
of cars we like
like hey
can I mod this
and not
you know
feel guilty driving
this
like can I drive it
to you
um
and then
you get even more
like
you're like
well there isn't a lot
of people who do that
like all the ones
that are left
people are like
taken care of now
so like the price
is way up
it's like
so I'm going to
pay you a lot of money
just to put
miles on the car
that doesn't make sense
um
but yeah
it's just
right when you
think we say it
every time
every year
we say it
multiple times
but the market is
you know
infinite
this leads us to our
next segment
so we are
yeah
next up
no
um
so still staying
on the topic
of
um
car week
now this is all
just from
information that
I've got second hand
from people that
did go to car week
and things that
I did see about
car week
and some of the
reporting on it
and
I saw footage
so it's not
there's like
some bar fights
like at like
nice places
like at
you know
not like
at Waffle House
like at some
country club
and like for people
that were there
and like it was all
car week related stuff
it wasn't like
oh there just
happened to be a fight
during car week
at this place
I'm sure that makes
us more appreciated
as car people in the
community
yeah
and it's like
and then there was
kind of a couple
takeovers
like they didn't
like the in and out
and that's all right
from what
from
most of the people
that have been going
to car week pretty
regularly on the west coast
from my
my interpretation
from what they said
was it's been the rowdy
as they've ever seen it
and
they're suspecting
there's going to be
something
that happens in
reaction to this
following
like meaning
the city of car
now all that stuff
they're going to do
something
like I don't
you can't shut
car week down
because it's been
it's like one of those things
that's been going on
for so long
like you can't just
the money that
has to come from
that weekend
or that week
has to be insane
for them
I mean I know
they already have
a lot of stuff
isolated and
roped off
and
I guess
they do
they don't
because they've
moved some things
because
they used to have
like this
rowdy stuff
is happening
around it
it's not happening
in any of the main events
it's happening
like in the public places
where you can't control
so like the only things
that they probably
could do is like
literally shut down
the streets
and unless you're going
to an event
and have a ticket
which is going to
put a major strain
on the local populace
which would be hell
because there's only
there's different
like one way in
one way out
a lot of places
and they
it just sucks
because
of happening
and
I was like
why is it the change
so much this year
so apparently
their thought is
that a lot of young people
are there
and I'm not trying to
chastise young people
but
when I say young
I mean like basically
let's call it
driving age
to 25
out there
you know
doing rev battles
and
if you're imagining this
don't imagine
what you've seen
on like Instagram
like they're out there
doing 240s and stuff
like these are definitely
like rich kids
somehow have gotten money
gotten themselves
you know
they're out there with like
event doors doing stuff
like this
so
not that that makes it okay
but I'm saying they
the cars blend in
because they look the part
because it's an expensive area
so they're not out there
and junk
so the cops aren't
being able to target
them right away
until they can
hear them doing
what they're doing
and they're all
you know
and then
they have all of these
spectators out there
that are their age too
and it just creates this
I don't know
like wave effect
it's like a wave machine
like this
like
energy gets built up there
and then like all
pump in each other up
and they're all
hype in each other up
and then
they're excited to be there
but then they just
they just start
doing dumb shit
and they just
can't be there
because they just
can be happy
to take it all in
it's just
everything's got to be
amplified right
let's amp this up
let's amp this up
let's amp this up
and it's like the next thing
you know like
the damn SWAT team's
out there
and it's like dude
what are you guys doing man
and then
you know they're like
what are you guys
all harassing us
it's like dude
what you guys
look what you're doing
like you've taken
like a chill thing
and like
made this
like a mess
so
I don't know
what's gonna happen
with it
it's a great event
I'm so glad
that I
my experiences
if it does get shut down
I don't have any recollection
or memory of any of this
kind of trash happening
while I was there
like it was all
just like cool stuff
and
you know like
as it should be
like it's
it's nice out there
it's chill
it's
it's a great place to be
and there's fun shit out there
and it's
you don't need to be
you know
on level 11
out of 10
like cranking it
all the time
like that's not
they just don't get it
like that's not
the place for that shit
it gave me
this is a reference that
maybe some of our younger
people will know
it gave me
solo vibes
exotic solo vibes
so basically like
what that was
is like
in Helen
they used to have that experience
that got shut down
because people were
basically out there
doing burnouts
in the street
doing takeovers
in
piece of crap
Volkswagen's
BMW's
and Honda's
and stuff
so that Helen
that shut that down
they changed it into
a whole another thing now
they're trying to police themselves
but this is the kind of
shit that happens
but I don't
since this isn't their event
what I mean by that
is like these young
like
tech talkers
and so like
I just think
it's not going to go away
but I think there's going to be
a major gauntlet throw down
how that's going to happen
I have no idea
I'm sure it'll just
it'll have to probably be
enforced unfortunately
by law enforcement
they're the ones
that are going to be
the middle management
on this deal
Carmel's not going to stand
for having the city
yeah and the citizens
aren't going to deal
with that either too
it costs a lot of money
to live there
they tolerate
the car week thing
because usually
it's pretty chill
and it's cool
and you see cool cars
when
you see like
douchebags
in
you know
hieroglyphic
Lamborghini
wraps
doing rev battles
outside
like the chateau
like that's not
going to fly dude
like it's
read the room
jackass
there is some local
like
like sideswiped
the Rolls Royce
driving
I don't know
that's
I mean sideswipe's
a good
terminology because
he was coming by
he couldn't fit through there at all
it was in some Hyundai
oh god
dude was like
been drinking
the guy in the Hyundai
yes
because we could still
see his Guinness
or whatever
it was like
it took two dudes
it was like bro
like you just hit my car
we're going to
we're going to drag you
out of this thing
he wanted to fight about it
so that's all
on the Instagram as well
jeez
um
so like
it's
I think it's a mix of
well I don't know
if he was local
I just assume he might have been
but
and then
and then here's the
the deeper dive on this is
it makes the people that
that they want to come
to those events not come
there'll be a new event
that opens up
that's what I think
like as soon as you
mentioned it
are kind of like
walked on the sobo thing
I was like
well now there's
yeah but you can't redo
car week right
like that's like the institute
car week is it's
own thing
and like
basically
this is the pimple
on the ass of car
like they're going to just
eradicate the pimple
is what they're going to do
they're not going to let them
change their event
what I'm saying is
there's going to
they're going to do something
to them
as they roll in
like if they show up
like that in force
next year like
they'll just box them all out
or something
I'm sure
they're already
concocting
like city council's
sit down and be like
alright cool
next year when this happens
we're going to bring out
the special operations
vehicle
block all of the exits
and we're just going to
start calling tow truck
companies and they're going
to come in and just
swipe all these out of here
and we're going to impound
all of this shit
how well that'll fly
I don't know
but maybe they'll
use that as a deterrent
I'll put it this way
like another stuff
like we don't go to this
but ocean city
used to be a really big
place for
car people
not like our car
people but like
more JDM stuff
not that that's a bad thing
and that city had enough
with the riffraff
and they just
shut that event down
they made it like
impossible for people
to go there
if your car was lowered
you got cited like
500 bucks
you had exhaust
you got cited
like they just
priced them out
like they just
basically
I mean
essentially you could
do that
because it's California
and they have the most
strict laws on everything
they could hit them
with everything
like noise ordinance
and maybe that would work
but I mean
if they're wealthy kids
maybe they don't care
but you take it enough
people
eventually they're going
to be like man
that place sucks
do the cops harass us
and maybe that's what
they'll have to do unfortunately
like they'll have to make
almost kind of
a harassment vibe
like if you're
but it shouldn't be
an issue
if you don't do anything stupid
yeah but I mean
the only time I could see
like that being
a big deal
is when they do all
the supercar things
and it's just
like
that's inviting
because it's cool
it's different
there's stuff you haven't seen
yeah
it's just attracting new people
those new people
are just non-disciplined
yeah I just don't know
I guess they did
but they wanted to
I'm glad that we're not the ones
having to make a decision
on how this gets fixed
because it definitely needs
to get fixed
because
even some of the
like
people that I know
that are a little bit
younger than us
that were going
they were telling me
people
and they were
and you know
they're younger than us
and they're like
dude
I'm all for
like
yeah power just went out
good thing we're on battery
that doesn't matter here
yeah
but it's weird
because
even those people
when those kinds of people
like
that are supposed to be
peers of those people
yeah
and the sensible ones
of that
crowd
says they're uncomfortable
that's a problem
they're like
hey I'm all for about
you guys having fun
but this is insane man
like
it's like so bad
where
cars can't even leave
parking lots
because there's so many people
with their phones out
like literally just standing
in front of the cars
because it's a Bugatti
and they won't
like let them leave
they're like
not being respectful
like nobody's
you know
and they're like
hey can you move
like
and they're barely like
moving because
they're like
so many people there
and it's not like
oh like
there's like
three guys
surrounding the car
and people are just trying to drive
it's
it's
it made me uncomfortable
to even see some of these videos
I was like
this isn't
this isn't saying
what is this
yeah
well I'm just making you
not want to drive your car down there
or even attend
yeah
right
so like what I was
going back to what I was saying
the people that they
want to be there
are going to not
want to go
and then they just
go ahead
and they don't even
announce dates
it's just like
invite only
it's super
what it's going to do
unless you have a pass
they're probably going to
they will step it up
because the people will pay for it
and they'll be like
look
do you have an ID to even be here
like you need a seven day ID
like everybody
that's supposed to be
in this area has an ID
they all send
you know
Carmel sent it to everybody
who's supposed to be here
you're not supposed to be here
and they just turn people around
like that's like
the point of entry
like that's the
almost the way
the only way you could do it
really
like right we're on like
right when you come in
right by that
in an outburger
you know exactly
right by the water
just block that road off
and just check in IDs
local
if you're local
okay yeah
you live in here
and it's going to be
super inconvenient
it's going to back up like crazy
but it'll keep everybody
out of that shit
you're welcome Carmel
and then
hear it out
all the people will just be
like this is stupid
I'm not waiting in this line
it's like hey
thanks for driving
all the way here
head home
wonder where we learned that from
yeah
I did
all right
yeah it's just pretty
wild man
it's just
and everything
fortunately that we go to
most of the people
I mean because we go to
Porsche stuff
and like I'm not again
it never gets that way
I don't think it's
I don't think so
but I think it takes
I mean I'm done
done things
I was
you just reminded me
you unlocked a memory
for me
I was
on the El Camino
and
my friend Billy
was at a Burger King
for no reason
I'm out of red light
he's like
I just did a burnout
right there
that's understandable
I mean that's what young people do
but see the difference was
is like you didn't have to
go to an event to do that
like you just did that
that's fine
I'm all for that
like that's where that
shit should happen
because that's like
all right you're not
disturbing everybody
now if you're that clown
who's doing one at
every red light
like come on dude
like I remember my first beer
all right like
the first one you did
was okay like
you gotta do one
at every red light now
like what are you doing man
like you know
you can't afford those tires
what are you doing
thanks dad
yeah what are you doing
yeah so
who knows what's gonna
happen with that
I'm just glad that
I don't have any of those
like memories of that
crap
again we go to
we go to big events
and
you know I would say
not even just the riff
raff I just think
Car Week's gotten
really really crowded
like a lot of events
we stopped going
to events that
get super crowded
I think
at least for me
and maybe when you
haven't experienced a lot
of events
and maybe you're young
or you're just like
that kind of like energy
but I feel
the most of our peers
and the people we know
are more attracted to
more
of a
low-key event
meaning like it's fine
if there's a bunch of people
there but it's
it's almost like
if you know you know
like to be there
events
and not even like
oh it has to be
just like
just kind of like
hey it's
it was a word of mouth
invite
you know there's 30 cars
here and that's it
and
I feel like most of us
like that vibe
where it's not too much
like rah rah
and
and also
when the
events are smaller
like that
usually if there's
a jackass there
you could find them
real fast
you know because
there's not that many
people
and they're like dude
who is that dude
who invited that guy
so there's another
I guess
benefit to having
a smaller event
I don't know
I've always been that way
I've never been like
hey dude let's go down
and there's gonna be
like 10,000 people there
like I hear that
I'm like dude
I have no interest
in doing that
like immediately I run into
like how the hell are we
gonna even get down there
like what is that
gonna look like
we're not even
gonna be able to
get out of there
like why
do you even want to go to
that
but some people are
attracted to that
kind of stuff man
I just don't
it's to make any sense
what are the things
they might get to see
which is
are the cooler things
yeah
you know people are like
oh it was so cool
like it was so many
people there
and it's like
that's a stat thing
just like a thousand horsepower
yeah
it was like 20,000 people
there
exactly right
exactly
it was one of those
it was one of those
20,000
I'm gonna see everything
they haven't
they haven't figured it
out yet right
till it
something turns
the wrong way
and all of a sudden
then you're like trapped
pushed forward
you're no longer walking
that's when you're like
alright this is not
the move
yeah
I mean even
rent sport
was a big event
there was a lot of people
but you know what
it didn't feel
out of control
I think because
the way they handle
they know how to
how to do that shit
it's a big area
yeah
and then just
the days
that you also
attend make a difference
and then
it's not
all
just cordon
to
well
it's you know
it's spread out more
yeah
but I mean
Loops is a big event
there's a lot of people
go to that
it doesn't get out of hand
like it's
I don't see
tell me about it
when you come back
yeah
I'm sure it'll be fine
bro burn out
rev battles
yes
rev it
rev it
what's the point of that
like I know
a lot of it's like
jokes
like I know
they're trying
like most of the people
joking to try to egg
somebody on
but
just see if they
actually do it
I don't know
it's
like
like doing like this
but
and then the next thing
I see too
maybe it's an age thing
for me
I don't understand
where
every single
broccoli head
that's there
every single
one of them's recording
so like none of them
know each other
like they all need
to be recording it
on their own phone
like everybody
joking by this
every single person
has their phone out recording
so they're all making
what
their own content
they're all
thousands of people
at this thing
making shitty
iPhone content
what
millions and millions of people
so
I just
somebody cares
you can't be in the moment
dude
you gotta
watch the moment
through the glass
they're in the moment
yeah
I'm part of the story bro
because I'm recording it
right
that's what they think
now man
so
onto another topic
sounds crazy
but we're closing
on August
so PSA
if you're going to a rally
make sure you
get your car in
because
don't be trying to
get your car in it
last minute
make your independent
being like
hey
I need tires
like tomorrow
cause I rally
next weekend
it's like
cool man
that's not gonna happen
so
we sue this every year
and I'm not
gonna stop
saying it
because
because
no kidding
September will be here
and rally season is
there's
people hosting rallies
in September
so
make sure it happens
and
you know
so on and so forth
it sneaks up on you
like oh it's August
but dude
by the time
August is almost over dude
yeah it's almost done
which is nuts
you do anything
to the
either the cars
did you really
have to prep anything
I don't think for
new suspension
still gonna go in
on
the
when they come back
from the shop
I have to take that
the GT3
to Cori
to have that
for our rally
for foreign
I definitely want to get
the 993 at least
looked at
I think the camber
is a little aggressive
it could just be in my head
I think it might need
a front end
alignment
it's not like walking
but the steering wheel
is like
at like
11 o'clock
instead of 12 o'clock
so
maybe just
a little adjustment there
and maybe that's
all I need
and maybe that's what
I'm feeling
but I don't know
but
I'm probably gonna
take that to him
Cori next week
he's busy everybody
so
don't take cars there
things
yeah right
yeah don't
he's busy right now
with rally prep stuff
but the nice thing
is
I don't
knock on wood
I don't think
the 993
needs
anything ordered
I just think
it needs to get
maybe on the
wood
that car should be
fine
suspension
is being sorted
like
you know
ordered right now
I guess
use the best way to say it
and it'll come back
they'll put it on
they'll do
same thing
camber
and alignment
and then
the GT3 will be done
so like
the same place
as my stuff
the suspension
or just order stuff
for a suspension
no
you mean the guy
who's rebuilding it
or whatever
so it's
it's gonna be with him
and then it should be back
and like I said
it goes in the car
and then
you know
just dialing that in
you're so good
you're not
you're not ready
I'm not ready
it's not
you're not ready
so good
I know
I'll be like
dude I was driving a tractor
before
and keeping up with you guys
how is this even possible
it's like
look at
look
fast as fuck
boy
fast as fuck
look at me
this is how GT3 is supposed to handle
they're like
what were you driving before
I was like
dude I was all over the place
booty was walking the whole time
they're like
nah it's not supposed to do that
I'm like
cool
but yeah
so
then get your stuff fixed
getting my stuff fixed
getting ready for rally stuff
I was gonna check my brake pads
but now it looked
I was like
pretty much full
full brake bed width
so I think
yeah
I was like
I usually last pretty good
for
like
even with aggressive driving
I mean
yeah
that's the only time you're ever aggressive with it
really
so
yeah it should be fun
looking forward to it
um
bottom rallies
I mean it'd be interesting to see
as many people went
to this car
week event
there's probably gonna be a lot of
people on the east coast
not
not probably
there will be
I'll just change that
a lot of people on the east coast
in the mountains
at Loof
doing whatever
um
it should be good though
I'm really really hoping
because it's always so hot here
and I bitch about this every year
I'm really hoping for good weather
like meaning
cooler temperatures
I don't want some
freak
warm phase
when we're up in North Carolina
like when we're
like
oh it's unseasonally
you know like
they love it up there
they say that crap all the time
when they're like
it's unseasonally warm today
it's like 80 degrees
no it's not great
we came up here because
we wanted 60
at least
it'll be like cold stab here too
yeah
and that's actually happened to us too
where we've
we've gone up there
and it's
I won't say it's actually cooler
but it was actually nice here
when we went up there
it wasn't like bad temps
it was like
55, 60
and it was also like
60 here
and it's kind of like
and then we come home
and it's like 85
I'm like awesome
like we missed
our good weather
anyways that's just
me bitching and moaning
about that stuff
what happens
we'll out
yeah
you said you wanted to talk about
something
what were you talking about
like some car maker
no there was another rest
resto mod
that I was like
oh I'm pretty much overseeing
any of these
somebody did a speedster
and
what I think
is a British racing green
over
like a dark brown interior
okay
it looked like it had the
same wheels
that singer used
back in the day
for their for their cars
it looked super clean
they kept the interior almost
almost a stock
what models
G-Body
964
993
I think it was a
let me look
actually
I'm
I'm wanting to think it was
993 based for some reason
and that's another thing too
I'm sure there's a lot of people
that saw
cars
there's a lot of people that
go to car week
that built a car
that don't pay for a booth
and like launch it
and they just drive it around
or have somebody drive it around
until somebody buys it
well I mean just a drum of interest
right so that
that also happens
we've seen that
outside of portion news
I think this is pretty cool
and I think there's
obviously a ton of room for it
did you see
that there's
that Lamborghini brown
they're relaunching
like the Diablo Resto Mod
like this
basically they're taking Diablos
I mean it's not like
they're just making something
from scratch
refreshing them
but they're changing body
almost like a singer
for Diablos
I mean everybody that saw
has seen singer has done
I mean once we saw that
once I saw that F1 dude
I was like here we go
we're gonna see
anything that was big
it's hard to get
it'll be
so Lambo like this company
this Italian
and they look great
they're actually like awesome
I mean the Diablo
looked already great anyways
but they refreshed it
I think there's a lot of room for it
yeah there's a lot
I mean we could talk about
a lot of them
I mean now there's companies
doing alpha Romeos
there's companies doing
Lancia deltas
you know Stratos
like Alfa's doing Alfa's
you know I'm not trying to
leave anybody out
we know that this is existing
but it's
I think this is the first
time I've seen anybody
outside of the
Lamborghini factory
refreshing a car
that has taken that on
to make something
and I have never been
in one
but from the people that
own them
and from the thing
that I watched on it
they had compared
two of them right next
to each other
I think it was actually
internet top gear
it did it
no offense to Lamborghini
but
same thing with Porsche
they didn't have a lot of money
back then
and they were making cars
and
the things were pretty
wonky looking inside
and people just
used to slap the phrase on it
and you get a part in
almost kind of like
oh well it's Italian
so it's
it's weird
and it's
it's part of
it's part of the Lamborghini
charm
that's what they would say when
you have panel gaps
as big as your hand
almost kind of how
we were accusing Tesla
of all the crap
that they were doing right
like hey look at the
panel gaps on this
it's like oh it's just
part of Tesla
it just turns into
one of those things
it's like
oh don't worry about
Jake he beats his wife
that's just Jake being
Jake you know
like kind of thing
and it's like dude
that's not okay
just because the interior
on the car is junk
and it's Lamborghini
doesn't mean it's
oh it's just Lamborghini
like dude
you could
it's okay to be
to call it junk
because it is junk
but
the thing about that car is
it's never been a secret
the secret sauce of that car
is the v12 right
like and then
they have great design
that's never been an issue
they've always had
great sketch artists
great design
the functionality
of all that design
is a whole other thing
but the way it looks
good
engine
super cool
everything else
we'll figure it out
right that's always
how it's been
until it got
you know more modern
but like in that era
that's what it was
unlimited tooling
dude it's not like that
that's mean
that's an evident
especially when you have
a lack of funds
like that's another thing
like you can't sit there
and say okay well
we're gonna spend
a hundred million dollars
on interior
when you don't even
have a hundred million
dollars for like
interior design
or client base
that's gonna be willing
to pay the money
exactly
so it's like
you're cutting corners
where you can
and anyways my point
is those cars
are of all the cars
that need a resto mod
like those
Lamborghini period
like era cars
especially from
an interior standpoint
definitely need to be
upgraded
well the factory
I mean my old thing
I always go back to this
too is like
I guess the manufacturers
can't reproduce
those cars
yeah I mean so
there has to be
a resto mod movement
to
give these a new life
yeah
at a smaller
rate of
production
and then
I think what
hinders that market
more than anything
is the low production
so
Porsche had a
high production right
so they were able to
like singer
was able to
capitalize on
like so many chassis
so it's even worse
yeah so you have
and also
you have to change
people's minds
you actually have
a pretty nice
let's say you have a nice
Lamborghini Diablo
and it's actually
been looked after
and it's in a cool color
and it's
maybe only got
a hand
you know
several thousand miles
on it
yeah it would go
for a nice
resto mod upgrade
and probably look awesome
but then
that's such
foreign territory
like
there's no proof
that that actually
adds value to the car
so like there's fear
that it would take
value away from the car
yeah there's nobody
that's doing tuning
you know
singer has the ability
now
and I think the jury
was still even out then
even when people were
paying those high prices
until the first few
started hitting
open auctions
and we were like
holy shit that singer
just sold for a million
dollars
and that guy paid
500 for it
he doubled his money
so there is value
in it
so
until that happens
like
yeah until like
well the proof is
in the pudding
when some of these
that they've already
resto modded
if somebody buys one
number
even compared to like
the nicest one
that's unmodified
then it's like
okay now the market
has spoken
yes there's value
to this
until that actually happens
I think that people
that own those cars
are going to be very skeptical
to say
yeah go chop my
3000 mile Lamborghini
Diablo
that has
you know
Lego
computer
like
push button
things in it
for the radio on it
and resto modded
make it look nice
no I'll just keep
talking about their investment
right like
clearly not driving that car
we wouldn't be pre-revenue
we don't want to be worth
anything
it's exactly
pre-revenue
but I mean
I think it's cool
I mean
being just a car enthusiast
I love seeing
stuff like that
I mean it's
so what are you
so
money no option
your design
now
so what chassis do you do
and like
like restore
like I know
like current state
like
I think it's hard to do
because like
Porsche
I think the Porsche
world's so saturated
so that's like
out
essentially
I don't know
I really like what
Lanza anti does
like I would
I don't know
the depths of it
because obviously
I'm no
Prevy to
being a design
house of what they're
capable of
but I would
I would focus on
not one chassis
what I would do
is I love what they do
is just take
cars
and make them street legal
like I love that
like that is so cool
you're reminding me
I don't know if you've seen
I don't know if it's
going everywhere
the 550 Maranel
the race car
do you know
the story behind that car
or like so
the Ferrari
wasn't going to build a car
so that
some dealer
just grabbed a regular
550
off and then
built it into that
they did all their
modifications like
all the carbon
all their stuff
they did that
built their race car
and that's
so
there's room for that
too I guess
yeah
but yeah
let's see some more
Ferraris do that too
yeah I mean
basically anything
like Lanzante
is really doing
I kind of really
like their concept
of
oh it's not road legal
we'll make it road legal
like almost like
I would
and not just
anything
I mean obviously
it's got to have
some kind of like
love or
it would be cool to take
like
the 962s that
road legal
and make them
road legal
like 935s that
weren't road legal
and make them road legal
like for clients
they have to be
in their livery that they
race to
they have to be
like kind of make those
rules
I know you want this car
but here's how we're
going to play this
almost kind of like
near us
like how AJR
does like
restoration for
race cars
and just brings them
back to race form
like I would like
to do all of that
but then make it
road legal
on top of it
but essentially like
make it a race car
like maybe
hey
and find a way
and have the clients
with the pockets
to do it
to say hey yeah
we can put an
electric AC in here
I didn't have one before
like some creature comfort
it's not like
a ridiculous amount
but it's still going to
be race car e
but like
hey you can drive
this on the road
the gears
are going to
blow your ears off
because they're still
super short
there's nothing
you can do about that
and they're straight cut
so you're going to
have a client
that's kind of like
almost like Fred
you know like
where he took that 935
and he took it to
Lozante like
he's deep in that
he's making race cars
he's got that
Pagani
Wyra R
that was only
race form
they made it street legal
like that kind of
cool like really
wild
race car
only shit
like I would
like to do that
because like I said
like all that other
stuff like
oh I'm going to
rest on this
like dude that
was honestly
so we all tried to do
and even if you pick one chassis
I think you
what I've learned
from just anything
just picking one thing
you really box yourself up
by doing that
like I would
I would just be open
how they're kind of
just a race house
which is cool
like this
you know they did
they've been in racing
for so long
so like
it's like
they're a different story
but I'm just saying
I would love to do
stuff like that
they took
you know
McLaren F1s
they were
decommissioned
because now longer
could be raced
and it was just
kind of like
okay cool
like I just like that
thought process of like
okay this is a badass car
like why does it not
get to not do anything
other than historic racing
anymore
like that's stupid
like let's make this
thing road legal
and not just
some random
ass cup car
you know it's like
go go to cup car
let's make it street legal
it's like come on man
like there's a million
of these like
no like let's do
something you know
cool and wild
yeah like almost kind of
you know
even BMW stuff
like were they only made
like a handful of those
like
Z8 race cars
with V8s
and stuff like
Bish has one
like make that street
legal like those kinds
of like wild things
like that
oh BMW
only made
you know
three GTRs
to race
the E46 series
and they put
V8s in them
and dude
make that car
street legal
yeah Peter
something
but yeah
like just
cool stuff like that
like it doesn't have to be
brand specific
it just has to be cool
I think
and how cool
that's the kind of stuff
it gets me going
like not the
we're open at the race car shop
not the
you know
and not that they're not nice
you know the Bugatti
Zing Do Do
whatever the hell it's called
it's got
W12
with 17
turbos on it
and you know
36 radiators
made by CSF
because it needs
all this cooling
and then
you know
in certain winds
mountain
like literally
and it's like
dude it's cool
like whatever man
like I don't
I'm just
maybe I'm just old school
I don't need
like kind of
I don't need that shit man
like that
they're pretty to look at
I have
none of that stuff
revs my engine
these go with 10 turbos
yeah
just one dude
one big one
like off a diesel
truck
like on the front of it
like I like
weird stuff
like that too
like we're
you know
not that everything
Diardo
you know
chassis
that have a blown up motor
and then they go put
like a
Cummings diesel in it
or something
like just
I don't know
like I'm
not that that's a special car
but like weird stuff
like that's kind of cool
I don't know
I just like that
weird stuff like that
but definitely race car
like motorsport
I've always been
motorsport driven
like if it's motorsport
I'm definitely interested
right
like and even
all of those can-am cars
that ran
like there's so many of
them
like Camaros that ran
in those series
and I'm not talking about
like recently
I'm talking about
like early 2000
ones
that look like Corvettes
and Camaros still
that run this
monster
LS motor
dude street legal
those things
those would be so cool
how cool is that
they have a small
series that they're
doing they're
bringing back
like
like I'd like to
find all those
cars that ran
in the JTC
stuff in Tokyo
and like
and all over Japan
that only
ran in those challenges
and make those cars
street legal
like how
sick would that be
like dude you're like
no this car
actually raced in that
series
now it's street legal
like we made it
street legal
like
yeah they're like
we want it back
um
but yeah
like all of that stuff
man there's so many
cool race series
that were like
prominent race series
that mattered
and like
you could just
go through the list
like literally
just look at the
kind of like
John Timurian
does with
Lambos
but you could do that
with race cars
be like
wow look at this
team they
had a
1997
injury
entry into Lamar
and they raced
two of whatever
where are those
cars at now
and this like
go chase them down
and like
make them
in street legal
and I don't know
like it would just
be cool to do that
for clients
that were
on board
um
because they're
the pros at it
um
but yeah
I mean
it's not like
this is the first time
they've ever done it
like they
they did that
with back
I mean
think about how long
the McLaren F1's
been around for
so when that car
got decommission
they made
so they've
they've been doing
it for a while
like they're
just not sitting
around like
twiddling
their thumbs
hoping something
like they do
their own stuff
whatever
they
I think they're a design house
I don't even know
exactly what they
like refer to themselves as
but they're badass
do you see Derek
Whitaker's
thing
like he
posted
he saw that
tag
go for
one
seven
one eight
he's like
my car's for sale
500 grand
right now
he was just
talking about
the prices
like even
in a world
that that motor
you still
spend a million dollars
on an SC
he's like
you can have mine
for 500 grand
taking offers
DM me
I was like that's
I mean he's not wrong
and he also
I mean he's a smart guy
he knows how the world works
I mean
I agree with him
it isn't an
asinine place
and like it's nuts
to think about
what people are
willing to pay
for certain things
but
rarity talks man
and it just
just matters
like yes
essentially
you've got
1.75 million
motor
and you've got the shell
for free
it's the better way
to look at that
because that's what
you really
raise prominence
and all that
you've got a
Williams F1 motor
for 1.7 million
dollars
and you
they threw in
a chassis
for you to drive it
around
because that's
essentially what
that car is
I mean
I'm not saying
the car overall
is not nice
but you're
paying
to move it around
to remind me
I just saw something
too recently
we're talking
about everything
the Williams car
way back in the day
like the 90s
maybe late 80s
car
they invented
the CBT
transmission
yeah I know
you saw that
thing
that
do you see that
guy's comment
he goes
sounds like a
WW2
boy
it doesn't like
good
it's like
it just
stays there
13 cars on the grid
all sounding like that
that would sound
terrible
it's like
is the U.S.
bombing
Germany again
like what's happening
right now
like B-52 Fortresses
are in the sky
whoa
like
yeah but it's
I mean a lot of
I mean people that
are enthusiasts
like us
and listen to us
they understand this
a lot of this stuff
it's even on the road
is all derived
from race technology
like the layman
has no idea
is one way or another
funneled down
I agree with you
that we should reverse
this whole process
instead of going
trying to make our street cars
and erase cars
and make our race cars
and erase cars
yeah
they're
generally cheaper
I mean they figured
out a way to do it
I mean those cars
don't have street vans
like they
they have the money
they have the
the means
they know how to do it
same way they were
doing it back in
the original
the difference is
with special enough
cars where people are willing
to pay
the price
for them to do
what they need to do
and that's the difference
because to homologate
those things
is not cheap
so there's
that's part of it
right so
but to have
something unique
like Fred's gonna have
he has
only the second
935
in the world
that's road legal
right now
or the second made
I should say
and then when
is Pagani Wira
I mean it's already
made in a street
I think it's
being delivered
as we speak
at some point during the
summer
it's gonna be the
only one
it's ever made
street legal
so
from a collective
standpoint
you can see what
he's chasing
like
he's not
he obviously has
a lot of other
special cars
but he's
doubled down on that
right like
people are like
oh why doesn't
he go and
you know
he
buy a CGT
like if you don't
I mean they made like
what 1200 own
he's buying like cars
he's at the level
in his car buying
where he's like
I want like one of two
one of one
like
type of things
like that's where he's at
but he's not doing it
like
oh I want to buy
some
Duesenberg
that was made
for the
Vanderbilt's with
you know
gold crusted
whatever
like he's buying
like race cars
that were never
made for the road
and making
that go with
in conjunction with
legal
which is insane
and awesome
all at the same time
you know
it's not like
oh I'm just going to go buy
a
Huracan STO
and throw like a twin
turbo on it
and make 3000 horsepower
it's like
cool man
you're just like everybody
else who's
like do she like that
who wants to do that
like do something
actually like
super cool
he's like
yeah I'm taking a race car
and make it straight legal
you know
and some people are like
oh that's dumb
it's like
that's pretty badass dude
yeah
well it's like
it's
show them another one
right there
I mean
let's
let's
snatch up
call up
what's his name from
Weathertech
and see if we can get
our hands on some of
those RSRs and make
those street legal
be like hey man
let's make these
street legal dude
you got
you have RSRs
let's do this
you have a helicopter
pad
yeah let's make them
street legal
mark my words
watch
he's probably
second time
like what's
I mean what's the hurt
in making it straight legal
I can go back to a race car
anytime
yeah
well
yeah like you said
it could
it can go on to the track
whenever it wants
that doesn't change anything
so
you just know where
he's going left or right
yeah
like what
maybe take the fire
suppression system out
but that can be put back
in what
a few hours maybe
I don't know
super cool though
I love that idea
I mean
just think about the
endless possibilities
the general populace
even if you're just
taking them to shows
like people will say
oh well you can just
take a race car there
but I'm saying
like you could drive it
if you were like
that kind of like a person
all of the race cars
not even just from Porsche
but from any make
and model that
you're a friend
a fan of
over the last
40 or 50 years
making them
like road legal
like how badass
this big giant
machine
and you're like
your wife or
partner's like
what's that going
in the garage
so it was like
warm
you got tire warmers
like on the car
it just sits on out
there in air jacks
she's like
what are these tanks out here
you're like
oh that's actually to pressurize
my air jacks
just like
all this like new stuff
like that you didn't need
before
but you have to have
just make the car
operate
got some friends coming over
our entire team
sleeping over
they're wheeling a
what is that a toolbox
you're like
actually that's a
freestanding computer
that I have to hook up
to this thing
can't believe they made that
in the 80s can you
it still works
yeah
but I mean
how cool would that be
just like
there's so many cool cars
that make some models
that everybody's made
that are retired
right
because they run that series
a series changes
it ends
and then those cars
get
funneled down into
they just change the rules
and they just can't run
that's what I mean
and then the cars
you know
it's already built
so then
a couple things
happen to them right
like usually they run
different series
for a little bit
especially if they're
high-end cars
and then once those series
change
and newer cars
come out for that
then they go down
and they get retired to
pretty much like
nothing for a little bit
and then they qualify
for some type of historic
eventually if they're
still around
and then somebody
buys them and runs them
in historic
and then that's
pretty much
that's it
that's their life
that's all they do
and you know
if you're really
well maybe you'll run
a DE
eventually with it
or you know
like a club race
here and there
but
that's their life
after that
but
I would love to
have a company
that could change that
U.S. one man
we do it
let's do it
I don't have anything
else for them
I'm just rambling now
I'm going to start
something
you'll see it
among everything
else that we're
starting
add it to the list
it's on the list
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like
to pull
venture capitalists
just DM me bro
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I don't need to tell you
anything else
I take
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