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About this episode
Voicemails kick things off with listener call-ins, including Toyota banter and a “bloody bar” theme that turns into camping food and drink talk. The hosts and callers swap ideas for off-road trip cooking—propane stoves, frozen taquitos, one-pot meals, and overnight oats—plus Bloody Mary variations and staying cool in summer wheeling. Later, the conversation pivots to practical driving etiquette (merging, turn signals, speed gaps) and a California non-op/smog selling workaround, then closes with mental health encouragement and a PSA tease.
This Week’s Callers
- Caller 1/2: Zac from OCK talks about Project Hail Mary and how it was awesome
- Caller 3: Josh from SoCal wants to know your favorite food
- Overnight Oats – 1/2 cup Oats, 1 Tbsp Chia Seeds, 1 Scoop Protein Powder, 1 Pinch Salt, 1 Scoop Matcha, 1 Cup Milk (the day before you want to eat it), Frozen berries. Add fresh banana/berries when eating.
- Caller 4: Wrong Seat Rea tells everyone about a trick for getting around, selling a vehicle, and smog
- Caller 5: Nick from MT talks more about mental health
- Make Your Bed: https://youtu.be/pxBQLFLei70?si=XV-fjr2CoOzeUluV
- Caller 6: Nick from MT says to be Vulnerable
- Caller 7: Rover Don says Tyler is wrong about blinkers
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smog
"just a bit of information about buying and selling in the state of California only with smog. I can't say this is law. ... you, the seller is not required to smog it."
In California, some cars have to pass an emissions test (“smog”) before they can be sold or registered. If the car is listed as non-operational (“non-op”), you may not have to do that emissions test for the sale.
“Smog” refers to California’s emissions testing requirement for many vehicles. If a vehicle is registered as non-operational (“non-op”), the seller may not be required to complete smog testing for the sale, depending on the situation and state rules.
Term
non-op
"that I couldn't smog, I just put it on non-op and sold it. And you are not required to provide smog for a non-op vehicle."
“Non-op” means the car is registered as not being driven. In California, that can affect whether you have to do the emissions (“smog”) paperwork before selling it.
“Non-op” is California registration status for a vehicle that is not being operated on public roads. The key implication discussed here is that a non-op vehicle may not require smog certification for the sale because it’s not treated as an operating vehicle.
Car
power stroke
"It was actually a late model power stroke that I got for free ... and sold it with non-op because I didn't want to have to pay to get a smog."
“Power Stroke” is a type of diesel engine used by Ford trucks. Here, the host is saying they sold a late-model Ford diesel truck as non-op so they wouldn’t have to pay for smog.
“Power Stroke” is Ford’s diesel engine family, commonly associated with Super Duty trucks. In this segment, the host mentions a late-model Power Stroke as the vehicle they sold non-op to avoid smog costs.
Term
street legal
"cheaper because it's on non-op and it's not street legal. But it kind of protects you and covers your ass."
“Street legal” means the vehicle meets the legal requirements to be driven on public roads, which typically includes emissions compliance and registration. A vehicle that’s not street legal may be cheaper to transfer, but it also changes what you can legally do with it and can affect liability in a sale.
Term
merge
"So now you're being a dick. Yeah, but I think that's a different, like if the lane ends and you're moving into the lane that you have to be in because there's no more lane in front of you, then it's the person's fault for not realizing that the lane is ending."
A merge is when cars from one lane have to join into another lane because the road is changing. It’s tricky because everyone has to adjust speed and spacing at the same time.
A “merge” is when one lane’s traffic combines into another lane as lanes end or routes split. It’s a high-attention maneuver because drivers must coordinate speed and position to avoid collisions.
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speed differentials
"I think there's a big thing about speed differentials, right? I think that if the flow of traffic, the general flow of traffic is going"
It means how much faster or slower one car is compared to other cars around it. When the speed gap gets too big, people have to change lanes or merge quickly, which makes things more dangerous.
“Speed differentials” means the speed gap between vehicles on the same road. In traffic, big gaps can force last-second lane changes and merges, which raises the chance of conflicts and near-misses.
Term
California law
"whatever x mile an hour, I think that traffic should not be going slower than x minus 10 and the faster than 10 plus x kind of thing, right? I think that everybody should be around the flow of traffic, which is actually California law. There may be a speed limit on a freeway or something, but the law states you need to be going safe speed for what's current for current conditions."
They’re talking about a rule that says you can’t just drive the posted speed—you have to drive a speed that’s safe for the road and traffic right now. So if conditions are different, the safe speed can be lower.
The speaker references California’s “basic speed law” idea: you must drive at a speed that’s safe for current conditions, not just at or under the posted limit. That’s why they argue traffic should generally match the flow while still staying safe.
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Hola, qué pasó, senoritos.
Welcome to snail mail.
Snail mail.
Thank you, sir.
I was trying to think of what it was in Spanish, but I don't.
What is mail?
I don't know.
Snail.
Sorry, goodness.
Es cargo de mail.
There you go.
Welcome, everybody.
This is Friday's episode where we get to sit down and listen to voicemails from you
guys and then reply to them and let you know how dumb you are or how dumb we are or how
dumb we are.
That's what I meant to say.
And that's that's the morning.
Freudian slip.
Just now.
Yeah.
Because we're definitely not as smart as some of the collars, yes, but some of the collars
we are just as smart.
There you are.
You know who you are.
Me.
That's me.
I'm the caller.
All right.
So first up here, let's see.
We have 41 voicemails.
Okay.
So not bad.
Nope.
Not too shabby.
Let's see what we ended with just for fun Z's flipping back.
We ended at 35.
Okay.
So we got six.
Not too bad.
Let's see.
We have five text messages.
Okay.
So we'll get to those as we get to them.
Let's see.
First voicemail up here is from April 18th.
So that tells you where we're at right now on time frame.
Almost two months.
Almost.
So it's one first up here is Zach from Oklahoma.
Hey, Zach.
And it's a twofer.
He did.
Did you?
He got cut off at three minutes and called back.
Did you see Zach's fanny pack?
I did see Zach's fanny pack.
I liked it.
It made me laugh.
Very, very, very good.
Thank you, Zach.
That was awesome.
Yeah.
Carries his art supplies.
I think that's perfect.
Yeah.
There you go.
It made me think of the dude on social media that does chalk drawings and keeps getting
arrested and fined or not arrested.
He keeps getting fined for it and the what littering for permanent defacing of public
property with chalk with chalk.
Yeah.
And so he keeps going to court and the court keeps dismissing the fines, but all the local
law enforcement keeps giving him tickets.
And so he's been back to court at 789 times, something like that.
And every time the court keeps dismissing his ticket because it's not a permanent
defacement.
No.
But all the law enforcement keeps ticketing him every single time.
Well, they should ticket him as a temporary defacement.
That's not a that's not against the people code.
Yeah.
So.
Okay.
Yeah.
All right.
So I'm sure they can figure something out to ticket him by your thing.
I know how those peace officers work.
Yeah.
All right.
Here we go.
Yeah.
Zachary.
What's up, Jimmy and Tyler.
Zach from Oklahoma.
Jimmy, I'm going to have to disagree with you on Project Hail Mary.
It is absolutely a movie that you need to see in theaters.
I don't know if that's just me.
I enjoy it thoroughly because I love science.
And before watching the movie, I had watched a thing with Hank Green where he was like
dissecting the movie and then mainly talking about the bits that pulled people out of the
movie like hardcore science people that are like, I know how to, how a centrifuge works.
You're supposed to load it on opposite sides and stuff.
I don't know.
It is what it is.
I loved it.
I love the concept of the astrophages.
The reason why they're called astrophages is astro has to do with star, phage has to
do with eating.
So the idea is they're astrophages because they're literally eating the sun, so which
is why everything is dying in the universe except for that one star that they have to
go and visit and don't want to spoil too much.
But well, it's a book, so the information is out there.
So I was just watching Neil deGrasse Tyson's Star Talk podcast on YouTube and they were
talking to the dude that wrote the book.
And one of the inspirations for writing the book was that particular star that they mentioned
in the book.
At one point, there was like some solar flares happening and scientists thought, hey, maybe
there's a planet right there and it's being affected or something like that.
Turns out there was no exoplanet in that area.
But just the idea and possibility of the planet inspired the fictional planet of which
the astrophages are going in between.
And one of the things that is why they go to planets like Venus is because of the high
carbon dioxide that's present in the atmosphere that they need for reproduction and stuff.
So just very interesting information too.
So, um, but yeah, no, I love the movie.
I like sci-fi right now.
I think it's the top movie for the year for me.
We'll see what else other movies come out because later this year, it's supposed to get
Street Fighter now, but that's not until like October.
Dune is coming this year or was it the next year?
I don't know.
Either way.
Bop, bop, bop.
All right, let's just continue because it sounds like he's continuing the topic.
Oh, what's up?
I will talk too long on that last one, but I was pretty much done.
I was just calling back to say catch all later, keep calling.
I'm about to go to work and then later today, I'm going to go help paint a mural.
So I got a fun day today and then I got a martial later today.
So cool.
You'll, all right, y'all keep calling and catch y'all later.
Bye.
Bye.
Yep.
Have you seen it yet?
Nope.
Okay.
The only reason I say it's not necessary to see in theaters is primarily was because
it's not super visually impressive.
Okay.
Right.
It's a story about like two people, more or less two people, what person in an alien
and in essence on a spaceship inside, there is a, there's a point at which they kind of
go up out into space and Ryan Gosling's outside of the ship and there's a lot of pretty colors
and it's very, I don't know, visually attractive, visually attractive.
That's pretty like, yeah, that, that was good in theaters, but I, the, the, a good chunk
of the movie isn't that way.
Okay.
It's not like avatar, right?
Like avatar is just like gorgeous, the interstellar kind of.
Yeah.
Or an action movie, right?
Like with car chase scenes and explosions and whatever it's, it's not visually appealing.
It was a fantastic movie, but a great movie doesn't, to me, does not mean that you need
to see it in theater.
Okay.
That's fair.
Right.
Yeah.
I don't, to me, it was the level of visual stimulation moves it into a theater side or
maybe audio, but maybe it wasn't that much of an audio boost anyway, on either side.
I still think it was a great movie.
I think that, uh, I mean, I didn't read the book, the assistant read the book after the
fact and she's told me a bunch that went into a lot more, uh, about the movie.
But that's the only reason that I was, I, I lowered it to maybe a rental or get at home
because I mean, my TV is like 75 inches at home or something like that.
And I think it would be just as good of a movie there as a theater.
I guess you could argue that going to the theater and the experience at a theater
might make it a little bit more fun, but yeah, I don't know.
That's, that's sort of my ranking strategy.
But cool.
Looking forward to Dune.
I'm looking forward to Dune 2, Dune 3.
Sorry.
Dune 3, that should be coming out this year, I believe.
Part 3, right?
Correct.
Yeah.
Because there was like four or five books.
Gotcha.
And I still think they're technically on the first book.
Really?
I think so.
Geez.
Yeah.
Okay.
That's crazy.
I only read Dune the book.
So, uh, the assistant read all, all of them.
Okay.
Nice.
Yeah.
So anyways, part three is coming out, I believe it's this year.
Uh, the Mandalorian and Grogu is coming out this year.
That should have came out on May 4th.
Right.
They missed an opportunity.
They did.
I want to see that.
I do too.
That's, that's that top of my list for movies this year.
I think it's out right now.
Is it?
I thought it was a little later in the year.
I think it's, if not out now, it's soon.
It should be soon.
The, a street fighter, like you said, street fighters coming out.
I didn't even know that was going to be a thing.
Mortal Kombat is releasing a part two this year.
There's quite a few like really good looking movies coming out this year.
So I just need to be able to stay on top of them and go watch them or something.
Maybe we'll talk about them on the other podcast.
Exactly.
There we go.
Anything else?
That was it.
That was it.
All right, Zach.
Thanks for calling in.
Good to hear from you.
This is Josh and SoCal.
Oh, good to hear from you again, Josh.
Here we go.
Hey Tyler, Jimmy, Josh and SoCal.
Call them back.
Want to know your guys' favorite off-road food items?
What do you cook?
What do you like to cook?
What is fun?
What's different?
What do people like?
Cocktails are included in this.
I know we just heard about the Shandy's, so that was kind of fun.
I'm a bloody guy myself, so I love bringing in a camp bloody.
But what do you guys use to cook?
Are you using fire?
Are you using propane?
Are you using, I don't know, give me some good ideas.
I'm curious what you guys like to do,
or maybe you have a secret trick to something.
Anyway, keep crawling.
You want to take this one?
Peanut butter and honey.
Yeah, Jimmy likes peanut butter, honey, and chips.
And salsa.
And salsa.
Yeah.
Not shrimp sauce.
So, it's so good.
That's funny.
I still can't believe you sat there for 10 minutes eating that.
All right.
I had chips in it.
Fair point.
All right.
So, my big thing, I'm really boring when it comes to camping and food.
Yes, you are.
I hate food cleanup while camping.
So, I will do anything I can to avoid making a messy meal while camping.
So, I'm pretty boring.
I cook everything with propane.
I don't really cook anything over the fire,
because there's certain times of the year where we're not allowed to have fires at all.
And so, propane stove is what I use, either a little camping stove or in the camper.
I got to say, I really enjoy grazing though while camping.
Yeah.
I like making something and then like snacking on it for a couple of hours.
Oh, that's not what I thought you were going to say.
Oh, okay.
So, I like kind of doing that.
And so, my favorite camp meal right now is taquitos.
Okay.
Just get frozen taquitos and cook them over on a stove and make like 15 of them in a pan.
And then, you can kind of graze on them and have two or three now,
have one and a half an hour, have another one and another half hour, whatever it is.
So, that's currently my favorite food camping item.
I really do enjoy on a trip.
I will try and do one night where I make steak and green beans and potatoes.
Okay.
Yeah.
Or steak and asparagus potatoes, something like that.
But I don't like the cleanup of that.
Yeah.
It's really annoying to me.
And one of the reasons why I make sure that my crocodile cloths that I get for camping
are all food prep safe, because that way the easiest cleanup is just,
you know, if there is a little bit of something left in the pan from cooking a steak or something,
after I take the steak out and put it on my plate, I'll pour a little bit of water in the pan.
So, it warms up and dilutes and works on breaking stuff loose.
And then, I'll come back later after I'm done eating and wipe it all down with a crocodile
wipe and then clean it out with a new crocodile wipe.
So, all my food prep stuff while camping is based around not cleaning up as much as possible.
And unfortunately, Tyler and I are very boring food people.
We're not the fancy, elaborate cooking.
We're not the type of people that get to camp to cook.
We are very one pot as simple as we can kind of get it.
I joke about peanut butter and honeys, but I love them.
I literally can eat them three times a day for a week straight, probably.
But if we're going to talk some food stuff, what the assistant and I do a lot is we just
go to Trader Joe's and we'll get like frozen bags or raviolis or frozen,
they have like these frozen pot or pan pasta dishes that are really easy like gnocchi and
raviolis or tortellinis and, you know, you can get different fillings on some of them.
And they have the sauce and the pasta all in one.
And then we usually get a bag of frozen green beans or a bag of mixed veggies or something.
And we just throw them in or they have frozen broccoli too, which is really good.
We just throw it all in the pot all at the same time and cook it up.
And that's it.
And it's super easy because it's frozen and you just throw it in the pot and you cook it till
it's warm and then you can eat it. It's all one pot, so there's not a lot of cleanup to do.
You just have your dishes in the pot and whatever utensil you're stirring the food with.
I really like your guys' yogurt parfait, your breakfast ideas that you deal.
I'm not a big breakfast person. Like if I'm camping, I could give a shit about breakfast.
I don't care about breakfast at home. I don't really care about breakfast while camping.
I need coffee in the morning.
Breakfast, I don't really give a shit about.
It's not a yogurt parfait so much. It's an overnight oats.
That's what it is. I really like that. I might enjoy breakfast more camping if I started doing
those. And what's great about those is you can pre-make them. And so we make them in jars.
I took them to King of the Hammers. And the thing is when you add the liquid to it,
it really only lasts with the liquid in there about two days before they just become mush.
But you don't have to add the liquid to it until the night before.
If you're gone, like I was down at King of the Hammers for like five days,
and I made one or two of them ahead of schedule with milk inside of it, and then
when I ate those two, I just needed to remember that next morning I just needed to make the one
for tomorrow. And then I ate that one and then make the one for tomorrow. And I'm actually going
to use those this weekend while I'm out camping. And so roughly what they are, they're super simple,
but it's oats. I don't remember the ratios, but we put oats in, and maybe I'll write the ratios
down in the show notes. But I add oats, chia seeds, and I think that's really about it.
I'm trying to remember offhand. But should you like blueberries or something?
And then we add frozen fruit into it, just like a mixed berry frozen fruit. And then I pour it,
I put in protein powder, like a vanilla protein powder. And sometimes we add matcha to it. And then
it's like, I think it's two parts dry stuff. So whatever oats and chia seeds you have in there,
you do one part, I do one part milk. And then I do the fair life, because that's what the assistant
likes to drink, but it has more protein in it. It does have more protein and fair life keeps
surprising very well compared to regular milk. Yes. Yeah. And so I do that. Sometimes I'll
do like an oat milk or almond milk or something, but most of the time it's fair life. And then
I put fresh bananas on top. Nice. And that's the breakfast. Pretty simple.
And it's pretty, like the morning of, if it's already had the milk on it, all I do is stir it
to make sure it's fully mixed. And then I cut some fresh banana on top. And if it's the assistant
and I, it's usually half a banana on each side. If it's me, I'll put half a banana on it and then
just eat the other half. And that's breakfast. And it's super good, super easy, no cooking
required. Cleanup is literally, I put a little bit of water inside of it, close the lid back on
top, shake it up, then throw the water out. And then it more or less is cleaned to that.
I put it in a mason jar. I don't know if I said that. Put it in a mason jar. And then
I put the mason jar back into wherever it came from, back into the fridge or whatever.
Super easy. Yeah, to do. So that might be my camp, one of my good camping hacks that we do.
Yeah, it's really nice. What about your favorite drink right now?
Yeah, so I'm, I know what yours is, but I'm, this weekend I'm going to try Bloody Mary's
and see how that goes. I'm not going to go too crazy. I'm not going to do like a hamburger
on a stick thing. Are you going to do like a, any kind of like dumb down Bloody Mary to simplify
it? Are you going to do actual Bloody Mary's? No, I'm doing, I bought some Bloody Mary mix
and I bought some vodka. And then I'm going to go, I haven't done it yet, but I'm going to get
some like mixed pickled vegetables, like maybe some green beans or something. I would
like to do bacon, but I might get murdered if I cook bacon in the house.
So I might cook it out there like the first day. Costco has pre-cooked bacon. Do they? Like in a,
yep, pre-cooked bacon. All you got to do is warm it up or you can eat it cold, whichever.
Well, I want it cold in the drink. Perfect. Then yeah, just go to Costco. They have pre-cooked
bacon in batch. Yeah. So I wonder, I might have to do that. So, yeah. So I might do that and then
yeah, some dill or pickled veggies and that's it. Like I'm just going to do fairly simple to start.
My thing is I want to start, I bought a Bloody mix and brought it home the other day because I was
like, I need to sample Bloody mixes because I need to know which one I want. But I got an old
favorite that I remember, which was an old zigzag. I think is what the name of the brand is.
It's just a staple. Like it's a normal thing. So I might just get another one of those and bring
it and just have that be it and then make a little Bloody bar out there. So if people in the
morning, they want to have a Bloody Mary, that might be my new, I'm playing with that to see if
that's something I want to do. But normally I'm an Irish coffee kind of guy. Make my coffee,
add a little bit of whiskey in it and just kick it. Yeah. That's an easy, simple one. I'm going
to make the coffee anyway. So I can just throw the extra whiskey in there because I always bring
some. How about you, drinks? My favorite drink right now is Pormosus. It's fantastic. They're
super surprisingly refreshing. So if you're out in summer camping in the evening time, afternoon
time, Pormosus are great because you get a nice little refreshment and you're using like half
of a Coors light per drink. So you can have like 10 of them before you ever start feeling anything.
Would you look at that way? Well, because I drink my first half of the Coors light and then I add
orange juice to it and then I have it. So I was like, how do you make yours? You just make
part in another cup. Oh, got it. So yeah, the Pormosus have been great. Other than that,
I do the Simply Lemonades and then they have a Simply Harder Lemonade. I forget exactly what
they call it, but it's eight and a half percent. So I'll have those. And my main goal with drinks
is to just be refreshed because at summer wheeling time, I just get hot. It doesn't seem to matter
what temperatures it's outside. If I'm in direct sunlight, my body starts overheating.
So I'm just looking for something to cool down and have refreshing.
And that's exactly. I think a lot of trips that Tyler and I go on, we're always sort of moving.
There's not a lot of downtime on the trips that we'd normally go to. There's not a lot of times
when we're camping in one spot for multiple days. And I think that's the trips that I'll be trying
to do the bloody bar on. Where if we're on a trip where it's like we're moving every day,
like, okay, no, that's not going to, like there's not going to be time for me to lay out a bar
for somebody to have a few drinks and relax before we have to pack up and move. So yeah,
I don't, I'll see how it goes this weekend to see if it's something I want to play with.
If you have any suggestions for me on things to do or add to my bloody bar or things that are
required at a bloody bar, let me know because I'm all ears. Cool. Yep. All right. Next up.
Yeah. Chris Ria. Oh, Ria. Wrong seat, Did you just make that up?
I did. I like it. That's good. All right. Here we go.
Hey, what's up, Stale Trail Boys? It's your favorite friendly ultra four escort.
Just giving a listen to the used card buying episode. Don't remember what number it is.
I'm way behind. And I don't even know how far behind on voicemails you guys are these days,
but I know. Yeah. Anyway, everybody does that. Anyway, just a bit of information about buying
and selling in the state of California only with smog. I can't say this is law. I can't say it's
gospel. But I can say that the last time that I had to sell a vehicle that required smog,
that I couldn't smog, I just put it on non-op and sold it. And you are not required to provide
smog for a non-op vehicle. At least everything that I could find on the state of California's
website and everything else. It was actually a late model power stroke that I got for free from
a previous company and got the title into my name and sold it with non-op because I didn't want to
have to pay to get a smog. And I made it super cheap because of that. But yeah. So if you put
your vehicle on non-op, you, the seller is not required to smog it. As far as I know,
everybody should, I'm not a lawyer. I didn't play one on TV and I didn't stay at a holiday and express
last night. So stick that with a grain of salt. But anyway, just some more information from your
escort. Hope you're having a good day. Bye! That's smart. Yeah. I will never thought about that.
I think that makes complete sense because you're selling a vehicle as non-operational,
therefore it does not have smog. Yeah. You can't prove that it's asked to get smogged or need smog
or anything because it's on a non-op registration. Yeah. I think that, to me, that makes complete
sense. Same. I think the downside to that is what he sort of ended with was you're selling it a little
cheaper because it's on non-op and it's not street legal. But it kind of protects you and covers your
ass. Yeah. If you're just trying to get rid of a vehicle and not sell at full price and everything.
Yeah. I think that makes a lot of sense. And that comes from, because in that episode, we talked
about how selling a vehicle that needs to be smogged but didn't get smogged can come back to
bite you because it is the seller's responsibility to have a vehicle smogged before sale. And the
purchaser can sue the person or come back to the person for the value it took to
take to get that vehicle smogged. Yep. But if you make it non-op, then it's a non-operational
vehicle and it's up to them. Yep. So that's a good little trick there, Chris. That is smart. Yeah.
Next up, Nick from Montana. Nicholas. Here we go.
That's what we're talking about. On mental health side, it's just go fucking do something. And
sometimes that's why you're in that hole. I used to call it a spiral, like one thing sets me off
and then I'm like, yeah, then I'm not taking care of myself and I'm not taking care of the house.
I'm not taking care of fucking work or paying bills, all that kind of stuff. And I'm like,
so there was a point in time where I decided to get up and open the curtains. And that was what
I did for the day. And that's okay. You're making forward progress. That hole big. And it's one
of the reasons some of my sign officers love you, proud of you. That's something I started doing
back in the day because I had a soul through that told me that he's never heard
love you or proud of you from either of his parents. And I said it jokingly and he's like,
oh, thanks, I'm like, I really appreciate you. Yeah, I've never heard it. And it's like, oh,
shit, like how often does that happen? How many haven't haven't heard those things from a strong
behavioral model? So I'm blessed that I get to be able to be in that position. Sometimes. And it
is something I don't take lightly. And the other big one mental health wise is go fucking exercise,
move your fat, loaded body around, and you will feel better. Be out in the sun, go for a hike,
go for a walk, go to the fucking park for your kid or whatever it is, like human beings are not
supposed to be inside all day. And I say that as a medical provider is my professional medical
opinion. You're not supposed to be inside all fucking day. Anyway, that's all love you and
proud of you. I am goner in good advice. What if you die in the sun, Nick? I feel attacked right now.
Well, you aren't inside all day. That's true. I'm not outside for like 10 minutes when we went
to lunch. That's true. Yeah, I'm working my baby steps. Yeah. That's what I was going to say,
baby steps is start somewhere small, work your way up to more. Nick said, some days it's just
opening the curtains and then going back to bed or whatever it is. And then some days you can get
yourself out for a walk and then sometimes you can turn that walk into a small jog or
then start running more or however it works out for you. Well, that's also kind of the
thought of the military, right? The military, when you get up in the morning, the first thing
you do is make your bed and it's your first victory. It's your first victory of the day.
Exactly. Your first thing you're like, fuck, yeah, I did something today. It starts you off
in the right mental attitude of having a successful and prosperous day, right? Have you seen that
speech? I haven't. Oh, I'm going to butcher the thing, but it was from some like military
three star general or whatever. And the whole speech was around making your bed. Really? And
the first thing you're doing, it sets yourself up. You're already winning for the day. So you
got to keep that rolling. Everything you just said, but it was like a military guy explaining
why it's so important to make your bed. Okay. Yeah. I'll see if I can find that.
That'd be cool. Throw that in here. So it's a great speech. Yeah.
Nice. Yeah. Mental health is super important. Stay on top of your guys' mental health out there. If
you feel like you're spiraling or shit's not going right, you know, reach out. We got a
discord. We love hearing from you guys. We're always here to chat. For sure. Nick called back.
Let's see where we're at. I got time for more. Here we go. Oh, here we go. We're going to touch
on some more. I think mental health, men's health stuff. Okay. Hey, I forgot to touch on
vulnerability, be fucking vulnerable. Maybe that's because I'm not a physically vulnerable person.
But I don't understand the hyper-masculine guy. Maybe it's like girl dad stuff. Maybe it's a
I used to break shit and hurt people for a living. I don't know. But if you're
having something happen, let your buddies know that something flipped up, something flipped
through. I'm feeling this way or that way. And having that one or two buddies that you can do that
with is pretty fucking awesome. And honestly, prevents more than one suicide. And in the other,
on the suicide note, to fucking ask, it's a whole campaign that's called just fucking
ask. But like, if you feel like your buddy's in that situation, fucking ask him,
why am I going to shoot yourself? It's uncomfortable, but fuck, does it work?
It, you know, it's resulted in more than a few times like I'm, you know, securing somebody's
firearms form. Because this is such a quick, such a quick way to make a very permanent decision.
And I don't have anything like particularly horrible or entertaining to say right now.
So I'll work on that and probably call back a third time in like a day or two.
Bye. I've never heard of that. Just fucking ask. I like it. I like it a lot. Yeah. And it makes sense.
I mean, a lot for the person that is looking in from the outside, just fucking ask. Yeah.
For sure. Cause, and especially if I agree, it could be a little awkward, but if it will save
your friend's life, it's worth it. It's awkwardness. Yep. I like it.
It's worth the vulnerability. awkwardness. So yeah, I like it.
Nick, is there anything you want to tell us? Yeah.
Is there anything you want to talk about, Nick? Do we need to, I need to text Nick later.
Do we need to message him? Yeah. Discord him. Maybe.
All right. Next up, where are we? We still got more time. Yeah, we'll do another one.
This one's Donnie. Hey, Donnie. I wonder if he's going to ask us.
Maybe. Are you guys going to shoot your fucking cells from talking about toilets all the time?
No, from Rovers. Oh, there you go. All right. Here we go. Donnie. Yeah.
Julianne Tyler, your boy Rover Don here on the road as always. And oh, God, this is the think the
April 24th episode I'm listening to a snail mail. So it's probably about July now that you're playing
this and you're talking about shit that pisses you off when you're driving. I have to be driving
around 30,000 miles a year. So I get plenty of that. But Tyler, Tyler, you're being that guy.
You're talking about I turned on my signal. So I'm coming over. No, not right. You still turning
on your signal does not magically mean everybody else has to jump out of your way. If I'm driving
and I'm in my lane and I'm good and someone wants to merge over into my lane. Okay. I'll,
you know, I may make room for him if I can. But just because they turned on their signal doesn't
mean that magically everybody else jumps out their way and they get to come on. The guy who started
this whole call was witnessing that someone was in a merge lane coming up on I five. They wanted to
get over and they were pissed off that the big rig didn't get out of their way by magic just
leap out of their way and let them in. Well, they had their turns to go on. Why didn't the big rig
just disappear? No, wrong answer. You still have to make sure there is room.
We turn on your signal and expect that that just gives you the right to push everybody out.
Then you're the problem. Don't be the problem. I think we could sum it up with just don't be a
dick, but you know, that's asking a little much for most people. Anyway, I'll leave you boys
with a hearty trial aside and away we go. I already think I know what you're going to say,
but go for it. Okay. Two points. Yeah. One, if somebody has their signal on and they don't see
you there and they start coming over a complete accident, not intentional. They're not being
a dick or anything. They just don't see you there and you saw that they were signaling
or they had their signal on and you're one of the drivers that is driving 90 miles an hour down
the freeway and there's somebody signaling and you're still a quarter mile back, but because
you're going so much faster than them, you end up having to slam on your brakes because they're
coming over into your lane, right? There's, there's two different things going on here where
one in the first situation, it is a complete accident. They're not being a dick. It's just
they're turning on their signal to let everybody else know this is my intention. I'm going to do
everything I can to make sure I'm not running somebody over, but I'm moving and hopefully
this signal lets everybody know I'm moving, gives you a heads up that I'm moving.
You don't necessarily need to be a big rig and magically disappear, but if somebody is giving
you the courtesy, courtesy of putting, turning on their signal to let you know what their plans
and intentions are, I think you owe a common courtesy to try and, if you can, let them make
that happen, let them make it happen. Yes. I think that's not being a dick. Correct. So I think
what Donnie was saying is if you turn your signal on, you don't just get a move over.
Well, for sure. I mean, it doesn't give you right to move over. You're right.
But at the same time, it's showing intent to move over and maybe they don't see you there.
Would you rather just stay there? Them hit you and now you have to deal with
an extra five hours out of your day and a broken car and you have to replace your car and deal with
insurance, all this other stuff. Or is it easier just to slow down, make a little bit of room and
let them over? Yeah. So a point I want to make is what Don was saying happened to be a merge
situation. Yes. And when a car and I think, and this is where it all started, I think Richard
from Atlanta said this and this is why this is where the conversation started. When a car is
merging on the freeway, it's the car that is merging on the freeway that does not have the
right away. Correct. So just because the car didn't notice a semi in the way, that is the
car's fault. They don't just get a come over. Yeah. So. And the difference there is that
they know their lane is ending. Yeah. So you should be planning way ahead of time. Yes. To make
your move. You know that this is coming up. You know this is an impending future for you.
You should be planning accordingly. Whereas like if I'm just in the middle of the road and driving
on a two lane road and I'm like, I need to plan on getting over at some point here in the next
half a mile because my turn is in a mile, that's a different scenario than the immediate impending
doom of the lane ending. Sure. You need to be aware of that. I think there's a slight difference
there in the situation. Sort of. But I think they're both, both situations you need to be aware.
Yes. Well, I guess you're driving. You need to be aware. And it bothers the hell out of me
because the assistant knows where she's going, but does not always know what lane she should be in.
Yeah. So it's like, you know, you need to exit in like a quarter mile. Why are we still in the
fast lane? Yeah. True. And then it's like, oh, here's the exit. I got to get over. Oh,
there's a car there. Now I have to cut this person off. I'm like, why aren't you thinking ahead?
And I think that's really what a lot of it comes down to. Yeah. Start thinking ahead. You have to
be like, I understand you're not always going to be able to do it, right? But you need to be able
to start thinking ahead and where you're going to be. Where do you need to be by the next
like obstacle, right? And that could be for off-roading and for on the road. Like I've got
to turn left coming up in a mile. So I should probably be getting over to the left lane or
whatever it is. But yeah, I think. So to continue, what if let's say a scenario where you are driving
a truck in a trailer and you've got blind spots and you need to get over, but people aren't letting
you over? Sure. I mean, do you just, what do you do in that situation? I'm coming over. I'm coming
over. I'm just going to start moving slowly and you guys got to deal with it.
Yep. That's, I mean, everybody just, I think what the main rule here is exactly what Don said,
don't be a dick. Yes. You have to have common courtesy while driving. And if somebody, in my
opinion, if somebody gives me the common courtesy of letting me know what their intentions are,
I'm going to do everything I can to let it happen without impacting other people around me, right?
Yes. So I also think the situation that you were saying is one of my red flags too,
where if somebody has their blinker on to come over into your lane and you're going faster than
them and that person is going to now make you have to slow down, the person that is turning
is not being courteous, right? It depends on the flow of traffic in my opinion at that point.
Sure. I mean, there's a lot of circumstances that could change that, but the person that is
merging lanes or changing lanes needs to be aware of the oncoming traffic, right? If they're in
oncoming traffic, it could be behind you. Yeah, for sure. And so by you, if say you're going
less than the speed limit and you want to get over into the fast lane and the person behind you
is going more than the speed limit, it's not your right to slow them down. What if you have to change
lanes? Why do you have to change lanes? Because the freeway is exiting and you're in the wrong
lane, haven't been able to get over because people keep moving too fast and you have to get over.
So now you're being a dick. Yeah, but I think that's a different, like if the lane ends and
you're moving into the lane that you have to be in because there's no more lane in front of you,
then it's the person's fault for not realizing that the lane is ending. It's both people's fault.
That fast person shouldn't be going fast because the people in front of them are going to have
to merge in front of them. I think there's a big thing about speed differentials,
right? I think that if the flow of traffic, the general flow of traffic is going
whatever x mile an hour, I think that traffic should not be going slower than x minus 10
and the faster than 10 plus x kind of thing, right? I think that everybody should be around the flow
of traffic, which is actually California law. There may be a speed limit on a freeway or something,
but the law states you need to be going safe speed for what's current for current conditions.
And so that means you have to stay with the flow of traffic and people that
inhibit that flow of traffic on either side of the spectrum is a big issue.
I agree. And you have to, I mean, you just have to be aware in my opinion. Like you have to,
if the right lane is merging into the left lane and both vehicles know that there's no reason
for the left lane person to speed up and try to get in front of the right lane person that has to
move it. So unless they're a truck and trailer. Sure. Yeah. All right. We don't need to beat a dead
horse. Let's beat dead horses and third dead cats cross yards. Yeah. All right. Where are we on time?
We're pretty far in here. We're pretty far in unless it's somebody not so fun.
No, I think that's good for now. Okay. Yep. Sounds good. All right. We'll call it there for today.
How's that? Sounds great. Thanks for calling everybody. Always enjoy your phone calls. If you
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And then leave a voicemail for us and we'll get to it in what, like a month and a week right now?
Yeah, right about there. Talk about that. Maybe we'll get closer here in a little bit. But
we got six episodes last, or voicemails last week and we went through seven voicemails today.
Hey, we're winning. We're inching forward. Perfect. Hopefully you guys enjoyed the show.
Give us a call. We love interacting with you and have a safe weekend. We'll see you Monday with a
really cool PSA from a place that's kind of near and dear to both me and Jimmy. So
we'll see you guys then. Have a great safe weekend and we're out. Bye-bye.
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