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About this episode
Winch talk kicks things off with a deep dive on the Warn 8274—great bang for the buck, but annoying free-spooling and a bulky vertical fit. The hosts compare it to newer options like Gigglepin (faster dual-motor, better braking/free-spool, but pricey) and fresh carbon winches entering the US market with an air-free-spool upgrade at a lower price point. Voicemails then shift to compact tool storage for an FJ40, plus a serious reminder about wills/password access after a neighbor’s tragedy. The crew also debates how to distinguish overlanding vs weekend hunting rigs vs rock crawling, and ends with compressor/tire-size advice for a light 3500 build.
Topics:
warn 8274 winch pros and cons
gigglepin winch comparisons
carbon winches and air free spool
winch mounting and packaging
tool storage for small rigs (fj40)
overlanding vs weekend hunting vs rock crawling
wills and password planning after tragedy
compressor selection for tire inflation
airbags to maintain towing ratings with suspension lift
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- Caller 1: Jeff from Morgan likes the Warn 8274
- Caller 2: Logan tells everyone about his trail tool setup in the FJ40
- Caller 3: Nick from MT gives everyone some life advice
- Caller 4: Uncle Weirdo says he keeps notes all the time
- Caller 5: Uncle Weirdo wants to know about an MF compressor and full-size rigs
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We look forward to it every week.
And it seems like it's your guys favorite segments out there too, because we get a lot
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Let's see.
I can't read the number, but we got down to 32 last week is what we were at.
We started at 40 and we got through eight and we got down to 32.
So what are we at now?
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All right.
So we got seven more.
We didn't get that 40 mark yet, but yeah, yeah.
So should we kick it off here?
It looks like this is Jeff Morgan from Morgan.
Yeah, let's do it.
All right.
This is Jeff Morgan.
I'm talking about winches this week.
Something popped up in my feed that made me think of this as a topic, but 8274, the
probably one of the best bang for the buck winches.
If you can fit it, they're upright, they're fast.
You can get all the support parts from them.
You can get them off Facebook for like 300 bucks for a rebuilt kid in them.
Get the XP motor from Warren and all brights.
When you're into it, like 7,800 bucks, you get a winch, little out pull, just about anything.
I'm getting ready to maybe buy a giggle pin or a red winch.
Europeans have these basically 8274 knockoffs that have dual motors and they're
pretty fast, got bigger drums, billets.
Sometimes the red ones, red winches are billets and they also have what's really
cool as an air free spool.
So basically the problem with 8274 is free spooling it out.
It's a bitch.
The brake, drag, they're just kind of a pain.
So usually I had the power in mind out to hook up to something, but these will have
like an air free spool, Shannon Campbell has one on his race car.
You just toggle an air switch and then it just free schools about the way to the rope.
And a company that just came out from the land of kangaroo fucking Australia is carbon winches.
They just came into the US market.
I'm actually really, I'm kind of a worn guy, but I'm really intrigued with these.
They're cheap, they're light, dirt lifestyle, they just put one on a rig and they also have
an air free spool upgrade for like 200 bucks.
So for like a 10,000, 12,000 pound winch with air free spool, you're looking at like
a thousand bucks and they're pretty light and they come with winch rope and everything.
It seemed like a really good price point and you get a lot of, you know, air free
schools, kind of a good upgrade.
So anyways, that's it.
Yeah.
And then I looked in the Epstein files and searched Land Rover and found over 300
mentions of it.
So we know they still suck.
That's pretty good.
That was, that was good.
Um, yeah, at the 8274, I think it has been the standard of winches for a very long time.
I think that just like he said, if you can fit it on your vehicle and the packaging
works for you, that's it's only downsized as it's a lot of, it's a big package and it's
a very vertical package when typically where you place winches, you really need them to
not be super vertical.
So don't block a ton of airflow through your radiator and your grill.
But the 8274 is kind of like the standard has been a standard for a very, very long time.
I think that worn has sort of done it a disservice by just leaving it the same and not
updating the 8274.
I think that that a company called Gigglepin, which I love that company name, it came into
the market and made essentially the 8274, but made it better.
They updated it and they put the, like he said, the dual motors.
It's a really fast line speed.
It's got a really nice break on it and they have a really good free spool ability of them.
Because like he said, that is one of the downsides of the 8274.
So Gigglepin, the first time I saw a Gigglepin was on John Arns's Jeep, his TJ.
Oh, really?
Okay.
Yeah, I got to go up and shoot a series of snow preparedness videos for the Rubicon with
RTF and I got to shoot those with John Arns.
And so we were going over recovery gear and we went and talked about his winch on his TJ
as an example of winches.
And he, after that, I was like, this is actually a pretty sweet winch.
And he gave me a demo there after we were done shooting.
And I was like, okay, this is really, really nice.
And then I went home and looked at them and their Gigglepins are expensive.
Yeah, they are looking at them right now.
They're very expensive and I saw the price tag on him and I was like, well, I can dream.
I'm not going to, I'm not going to try and repackage a Gigglepin into any of my crawlers
anytime soon, just so I can have a $3,000 winch on my, my rig.
And even though they are super, super fucking nice, if I was doing,
it looks like they range from like 2,600 to 3,200 pounds.
Okay. Yeah, British.
Yeah, I think Gigglepin was a British thing.
So yeah, I don't know.
And that's, and I think you still, I don't know of any place in the United States
that's a retailer or distributor for them, but I don't know.
I haven't dug that far into research on them, but Gigglepin, in my opinion,
Gigglepin should be kind of the standard of winches nowadays.
They're just, they're really expensive.
They're really nice, but they, they work really, really well.
If I was doing something more along the lines of like what Tomater does,
where I'm doing off-road recovery for business, I would be 10000 percent
investing in Gigglepins on all the vehicles.
But I don't do that for my business, so I'm not going to spend
that much money on those winches.
So I have been seeing knockoffs showing up out of China recently of Gigglepin
and those red winches he's talking about.
So I've been waiting for somebody to bring those in the U.S.
and see just how good they are.
If they're just as good as the original OEM Gigglepins,
or if they're, they're cheap knockoff versions.
So Jeff, I'm really curious, the winch that you get, if you end up getting it,
I'd really be curious to see your thoughts on it and the build quality.
If you get the opportunity to open it up and look at the gears inside
and how it's all put together, I think that'd be really cool too
and hear the feedback on it.
So yeah. Yeah.
And I don't know too much about carbon.
I do know that they're new to the industry.
They've been around in Australia for a while,
and which is pretty much everything you said, Jeff,
and that's really the extent of what I know about them.
I just know they're hitting the U.S. market now.
Yeah. I do know that the Australian markets from now having,
we have distributed distribution for Morphlate over in Australia for a few years now.
And we've learned that Australia seems to be either really high end premium
or dirt cheap.
And the goal is you can buy five or six of them as consumable items
before you end up spending the same amount of money as your premium item.
And that seems to be the Australian market.
So I'm curious where this company sits in that mix up with the Australian markets.
So okay.
Yeah, that's exciting though.
I'm definitely interested to hear how it goes, Jeff,
and I might look into that further.
If it's roughly a thousand bucks to get in on one of those
and it's the same quality as the Gigglepins,
that might be worth it to kind of restructure and rebuild
front bumpers on the crawlers to fit those.
So yeah, definitely.
I do like to lay them down like is it possible to tilt it
so it's like more horizontal than vertical?
Like, can it run that direction?
I mean, it can, but you're that's just
it's weird.
Maybe the pin will work further, right?
Yeah, or like, but I'm thinking like under the back,
underneath my bed, like put the motor in the back underneath the bed
and have the spool more towards the hitch.
Yeah, you could do that as a rear winch.
I think that I wonder pretty well.
I wonder if the pin will work
because if you're rotating it, it probably would still work.
I imagine I would think that those pins are spring loaded.
So they they're always going to actually break the system as intended,
right, as a safety factor kind of thing.
But I don't know. Yeah, a question.
Next up, yeah, Logan, Logan,
Logan, I don't know where he's from,
but Logan's calling about trail tools looks like so.
OK, cool. Here we go.
Hey, guys, Logan here.
Call on with some responses to the trail tools episode.
Try not to go over on time here.
I wheel an FJ 40, so I'm extremely limited on space.
Ditch the back seat.
I actually have, if you can picture like the tub of the FJ 40,
the whole rear area, I have this, you know,
locking toolbox goes up and over the fenders and it's the height
is about like the height of the tub, like where it would split between the hard top
in there. I kind of do a combination of a lot of things Jimmy talked about.
I have the soft tool rolls, but then they are stored in a hard
Milwaukee pack out, not a big fan of a pack out.
Lots of dead space and then a cramped vehicle.
That's that's not really OK, but I make it work.
The best way to keep everything compact and to know what tools to use
day before a trip like the Rubicon and I do a full front to back, not the bolt check.
Literally, I just I just set whenever tool I use to tighten something
or put a wrench on it, put a socket on it.
And I set that on the side of the side of the truck.
And then that's what went in my tool rolls.
And that's what I keep to this day.
The pack outs are neat because they have a little like locking platform
that I mount in the toolbox.
And then besides that, ammo cans for all my front knuckle parts,
stone toad actuals, so stud seals, all that good stuff.
Belts, hoses, everything.
I actually have a mount under my hood.
Those spare belts and hoses and whatnot live under there.
My more flakes in that back toolbox.
I have a premier power welder.
So I have a box that lives back there on the welding gear.
And then my biggest issue, these past year and a half or so,
has been like tweaking out, trying to get my camping gear packed as tight as possible.
Trying to thread the line between my comfort.
I don't want to go full to light backpacker, but I drive an F240.
So I don't have much space.
But yeah, I definitely do a good combo between the tool rolls
with the removable pouches that live inside of the pack out.
And inside that pack out, it's also batteries, electric impacts,
electric ratchets, all that stuff.
You know, send some pics.
Jimmy said something about getting that TV working.
I'll shoot some pics over.
I think it looks kind of cool.
I'll probably almost have the time later.
Nice. Yeah, I like it.
Sounds like a good setup.
I think your only argument is that there is extra space in those
Milwaukee, Milwaukee pack out things that like you always say, you know,
it's like you can put those soft shells into the hard shell,
but there's always going to be space left over and wasted space in a way,
which is true.
But what the benefit of that to some extent is now it's locked
into a contained area.
And if you do have any problems you get on your side or on your lid,
they're not falling and rolling all over the place.
They are contained.
So I think that's a really good setup.
It sounds like a good setup that you've got going actually kind of like
the idea of hooks and things underneath the engine or underneath the hood
in the engine bay.
I think that's kind of neat.
It made me think of a few ideas on how to wear to store belts or extra
parts or maybe some lines or, you know, the extra hydraulic lines for my
power steering setup for the hydro assist that like all that could go
underneath the engine.
That makes total sense.
Yeah, I really like the idea of keeping your, your, your hydraulic hoses under
there. I don't know if I would like the idea too much of keeping belts under
there because belts are a little more susceptible to heat degradation.
Yeah.
And then hydraulic hoses.
So I keep my belts inside, but I really like the idea of keeping
hydraulic hoses in there.
So yeah, I'm sure there's a bunch of stuff that you could, anything in regards
to the engine, you could kind of find a spare spot maybe in your engine bay.
So yeah, interesting to, I've ever since watching a few people, there's
some jeeps that do it that I know of and then Lee Lim does it with his, did it
with his old, the white whale was find a little pocket in the engine bay and you
can keep stuff in that little pocket area, whether that's spare oil, spare
fluids, spare parts, et cetera, and be able to take, you know, almost build a
little box in there to put in, you throw in spark plugs, you get there on a
spare injector or two, you get there and kind of these different little things
into this, into a box and if you have enough space, you could throw belts
into the box and keep them protected from the heat kind of thing.
So yeah, and you've got the hood as a lid, as long as that box goes up to
where the hood is, you know, and or there's maybe, you know, you put a little
rubber sealer between the two of them, then you don't really need a lid.
You just pop the hood and now you can add access to all that stuff.
Yep.
What if I don't want to pop the hood and get access to all the stuff, Jimmy, or
you can't pop the hood, right?
A little hatch into your hood.
Yeah, an extra, an extra opening.
Yeah, for sure.
Yeah, it's like those doors with many doors that open inside them.
All right, looks like the next one up here.
Okay, is under the names are not coming through on the save numbers, but I'm
pretty sure this is Nick Mont from Montana because the first three words
are Wafflecock.
Oh, yes.
We'll see what Nick has to say today.
All right.
What's up, Wafflecock Nick?
Just checking in something that came up, like neighbor got hit and killed
while she was out for a run and I fucked her family, you know, they
like figure everything out and pick up pieces and they're good friends and
sucks.
But one of the things that they did that was really smart, saved them a
bunch of work was they had their wills done.
So anybody with a family, they did one just in general.
I want to encourage everybody to get their wills done and to like write
down all your passwords and shit.
He almost couldn't get into her phone.
He didn't know her passcode.
Then later, like had to like dig around and work like one of their kids
recorded it.
So do all that.
The other thing on a positive note was I never mentioned where we never
talked about the using three planes to try locate something in the garage.
And by now I've been measuring off of that.
So I shot a laser.
I marked three points in the garage with those.
I can measure off of anything in there with a little bit of math.
Or even dumber is I can just keep lining lasers up and get measurements
off of that.
So I can set the rear.
Well, I can set the wheelbase and then essentially kind of measure
everything off of my barks to the wheelbase.
Anyway, I am gonna read the nice to each other.
And how do your neighbors learn everybody's names?
Sometimes that shit just fucking happens.
Wow.
Yeah, I talked.
I heard about this one a little while ago.
Oh, wow.
I didn't hear about that.
Yeah.
I check in with that guy every once in a while.
He seems like he needs a little check in love.
So yeah, he told me about that, but that's, but it does bring up a good point.
You know, there's, you know, accidents happen, bad scenarios happen.
And, you know, it's never too early to set some of this stuff up.
You know, I use, I use a password thing on my computer that locks up all my passwords.
I know Tyler does as well with a different program, but I don't think the assistant knows
the password to get into that.
So, I mean, maybe that's something I just need to share with her or, you know,
write it down on a little piece of paper somewhere so that if worst case scenario,
she can find it and then she can access a whole bunch of stuff that she needs to access
if I'm no longer around.
But yeah, that sucks.
I'm sorry to hear about that again.
There, Nick, I hope the family is doing well.
And yeah, I think that was a, it could be a good reminder for a lot of people of what
needs to get done.
Yeah, for sure.
It's, you know, if you're single and you're just living life, then, you know,
and you don't have that many possessions, you know, all your will is just going to go to
your closest family member, right?
All your possessions and stuff.
But the big thing that happens is as you start adding more possessions,
start adding more people in your life, especially kids, wills just help keep relationships
together.
There's so many times when possessions go to get split up and it destroys entire families.
It happens over and over again.
It happened to my family.
So, having a will is super important, not just for your own peace of mind when you go.
It's really for helping those that you're leaving behind to continue getting along,
continue loving each other, continue having a peaceful existence without you around anymore.
So, yeah, yeah, and then life insurance.
Yep, life insurance.
And I mean, you could go another level with the trust.
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
So, cool.
Thank you, sir, for calling in as always, Nick.
Always some good, some good, insightful, usually insightful things.
Let's see.
Next up, Uncle Weirdo looks like, oh, sweet.
Here we go.
Hey, guys, what's going on?
Uncle Weirdo here.
A few things for you as I'm catching up on, I'm only a few episodes behind, but I'm catching
up on a few.
I can't remember who was I called in about, they mentioned something about taking notes.
I really don't remember who it was because it was a regular, but anyway, that's what I do.
I keep, if I'm driving while listening, which is normally how I listen to them,
if I hear something, I'm like, oh man, I got a question or I got something to add to that or
whatever, I will take notes and like on my phone or on a notepad or whatever.
But yeah, I take notes and that's how I keep track as I'm even doing right now.
I'm looking at a notepad about what I wrote down, trying not to not do that because otherwise
my last, like my last voicemail, especially was horrible.
I didn't write anything down.
I was going off memory and I kind of blanked.
Anyways, my next one is you guys are talking about full-size rigs.
Though I do agree with you guys.
I do like the narrow body, big axle look and wheelability.
I think that's kind of like the go-to kind of deal.
You know, it's a small four-runner, Cherokee, YJ, Wrangler, whatever it is, you know, that narrow
body, wide axle, bump off the tires, not your body kind of deal.
That's ideal, but as you guys said, full-size rigs definitely do have their place.
I do kind of like them.
I had full-size rigs on the Rubicon.
I've seen some really bad-ass built rigs.
One of the last times I was out there on the Rubicon, I saw a square body Chevy
and the thing was like chuggyed out.
The thing was, it was sick.
Like it had everything from coilovers, lean suspension, three four-inch tires,
bad-ass paint job, you know, that thing was sick.
And anyways, it was awesome.
But it leads me to a real quick four-round time.
What do you guys think is the key difference between an overland rig versus your typical weekend
hunting rig that just likes to go out there, a rock crawler?
Like where do you guys feel like those differentiate?
Kind of curious.
I was told not to bring that up as it could be the next, you know,
trail rating BS, but I think I'm just curious to hear your guys answer.
How do you guys differentiate an overland versus the general guy's weekend or hunting
quote unquote rig versus a rock crawler and so on?
Keep crawling.
Talk to you guys later.
Good question.
Good question for sure.
Let's talk about note keeping though real quick and then we'll jump into
overlanding or weekend warrior kind of thing.
I think notes are important.
I mean, I think both Tyler and I keep all kinds of notes,
whether it's on our phone or a little field notes little thing that we keep on our pocket.
You know, I keep notes every time I'm holding it up before you're looking at the video.
I keep notes on the podcast as we're going through and all you guys are talking about.
So I don't have to try to remember or scan back and do the edits and, you know,
fill in who's calling and doing what.
So I think notes are super important.
I think there's another level to notes that we could dive into on another day if somebody was
interested.
But what do you do with the notes after you write them down?
How do you, how do you, you dump all these ideas down on paper and then what do you do with them?
Do you just have a thing full of notes that you reference back to?
Or do you put those in one place or do you start making them into tasks?
So what, what's the next step for you?
But I don't know.
I love notes.
I love taking notes.
I love having notes as so that I don't have to keep everything in my brain.
Yep. I agree.
I've got notes on my phone.
I, a lot of my, for me, I've got the difference between informational notes and task notes.
And my task notes are just my email list.
I send myself an email and then it's in there and I run my life off of my emails right now.
And then informational notes, I just have them there and I can reference back later on when I
need that piece of informational data again.
But yeah, notes are notes are good and there's a lot of really good programs out there to run notes.
We had a long talk with our buddy CJ with a CJ about a couple things options.
So there's that.
Let's see what was the other he made another comment.
Oh, full sizes on Rubicon or whatever.
One of my favorite things to do on the Rubicon trail is just watch the other vehicles on the trail.
For sure.
There's so many really cool builds that come out on the Rubicon and there's,
there's never one that's the same.
I mean, there's a lot of four door Jks that are exactly the same.
I'll put that out there.
But other than four door Jks and even two door Jks outside of those two platforms,
there's every build you see on the Rubicon is very unique and has something really interesting
going on something different to that.
That owner put into that vehicle engineered into the vehicle,
chose to put that vehicle together that way.
And it's always fun for me to see the design choices engineering choices that people chose
for their vehicles to come out on the Rubicon way.
So and there's everything you get little tiny little vehicles.
You got Geo trackers out there.
You get full size dodges, 3500s out there sometimes.
So there that's rad definitely.
All right.
Overlanding versus weekend warrior or rock crawling.
How do you distinguish the two?
Any, any thoughts?
I think, I mean, I, I heard three categories.
Kind of daily, just going out for a day hunting day trip kind of stuff.
Overlanding and rock crawling.
I think it's pretty easy.
I don't think there's too much of a debate or there could be too much of a debate.
I think that there's areas where those will overlap a little bit, but it's pretty clear
if it's a purpose built vehicle for these three activities.
I think it's kind of clear what you're looking at.
Your overlander is going to be more or less accessorized out in order to have different
things to be able to live extended periods of time out of the vehicle, in my opinion.
It's the new age, spending a lot of money to be homeless.
Kind of thing, right?
So if your vehicle is set up to really be able to live and survive off of your vehicle
for an extended amount of time, you're overlanding.
It's an overland vehicle.
If you are set up to go out for a day trip, you don't have a ton of accessories.
You don't have extended fuel tanks.
You don't have extended fuel reserves.
You don't have a beefed up suspension to be able to have better comfort while off-roading.
Your suspension is very much moderate, more factory suspension.
Maybe a mile to lift on it, like a space or lift or something.
You're not really running big tires.
You're running kind of maybe all terrains if not street tires.
You probably have a hunting vehicle.
You have something that you really just need to stay reliable and get you in and out in the same day
because you don't have the other extra amenities to stay extended amounts of time away from society.
And then the rock crawlers, it's an extreme build.
You're trying to typically stay lighter weight in the vehicle.
And you've got everything is beefed up on your drivetrain and suspension.
So like with overland vehicles, everything is kind of beef.
You might beef up your suspension a little bit.
You're probably not beefing up your drivetrain too much.
What you're really beefing up is that ability to survive out of the vehicle for multiple days.
In rock crawling, you're beefing up the ability for that vehicle to just take abuse
and whatever kind of terrain gets thrown at it.
And so I think that those are very three, very different, very distinct purposeful built vehicles.
I agree to some extent.
Let me ask you this.
When we go on Trail Hero X and we're living out of the forerunner for a week,
is the forerunner going to be a overlander or is it going to be a rock crawler?
It's a rock lander, right?
So that's where this overlap comes in.
But because the big thing is the forerunner, the mule, is not a great rock crawler.
It's a good rock crawler.
It's not a great one because in my opinion, it is heavier.
Now, the suspension and drivetrain is very much beefed up to kind of handle the extra weight of it.
But there, obviously, there's some shortcomings that made some things fall apart.
So like the mule is, in my opinion, it's not a really great rock crawler.
Like I think Kermit's a better rock crawler than the mule is.
But I think the mule is a little bit better quote unquote overlander than Kermit is.
They can both kind of do the job, but I still think that a buggy or a tube chassis vehicle
is going to be a way better rock crawler than either of those two vehicles.
I would put Kermit in more of a rock crawler category than an overlanding category.
I'd probably put the mule in more of a rock crawler category than an overlanding category
because I don't have a rooftop tent on the mule.
I'm having to take ground tents.
Like I don't have a shower with the mule.
I don't have awnings to have shade cover with the mule.
So surviving for multiple weeks extended amounts of time out of the mule
just by what is on the mule is probably not feasible in my opinion.
Okay. Yeah. I just, I think the difference really comes down to just overloaded or not
to some extent. Like an overlander is just going to have, they have way too much crap.
Like they're not designed to be going off-road in extreme off-roading situations.
We'll have too much crap for who?
For rock crawlers.
To rock crawl. Because they just, I mean, and the question kind of looks at like what's Lee,
right? What's the new sperm whale?
Because that thing is, but I think it's, he's, he has designed himself a good rock lander
it to some extent, but it's, he is definitely, he's more on the overland side than a rock crawling
one, but he does have a good mix of in between because he can still wheel the Rubicon, but
is it designed and made to kind of wheel the Rubicon? Yeah. Yeah. It's not, it's not more
specifically built for that. It's more specifically built for overlanding long road trips, sleeping
inside the vehicle, being somewhat incognito when he gets to camp, having all of his cooking and
everything kind of there easily accessible. Or like Bobcat could do the long road trips
and has a rooftop tent. So it's like, okay, what, what, what's going on here? You know,
but Bobcat is more designed to be a rock crawler than it is an overlander. Like you don't want to
drive it on the road for extended period of times. You're going to have a backache, but
does it, I carry a fridge, I carry a rooftop tent. I, you know, I don't have an awning,
but I do have some nice amenities for when I get to camp. So I do think there are lines to be drawn,
but I do think it's a matter of like, you can kind of look at a rig and be like, that's an
overlander or that's a rock crawler, you know, the, the weekend warrior or the like guy that's
going out hunting or fishing or whatever, you know, they almost carry nothing with them,
you know, they're not hitting the extreme rock. The extreme trails are doing fire roads.
Usually they're going on maybe something a little bit more challenging than a fire road,
but not a lot. And they're usually not carrying a whole lot of stuff with them to my knowledge.
I'm, you know, it's not my game, but that's the way I draw the line, what I see different.
I agree. Yeah. 100%.
Cool. Should we do one more?
Let's do one more.
All right. Looks like uncle weirdo called back.
Okay. Perfect.
So we'll see what he had to follow up about.
Yeah. He caught another note.
All right. Here we go.
Uncle weirdo here.
Damn, I told myself it's not going to be one of these guys that called back to back,
but here I am doing it, but I forgot a cruiser part that ties into the full size rigs.
Questions I want to ask or just something I want to put out there.
Tyler, I'll be hitting you up about compressor.
I do have some more place stuff that I got from record Rob.
He helped me with a few things and I purchased a few deals.
The only thing I'm missing is a compressor kind of trying to figure out how I want to hook that up.
I've got a Dodram 3500, the 2013, it's a single rear wheel, the non-dually.
I want to set that up as like a overlandish type rig.
Just something I've already got some rear suspension to keep my choke capacity,
but also allow a little bit better rideability and flex for the rear coming.
But just want to turn it into like a light overland type rig.
I can take out, go bomb through the snow, handle all the typical mountain trails that are open
and have some general fun without towing anywhere, but also keep my toe capabilities.
As I do toe with it, but I want to set up, I've got all the hoses and stuff,
but anyway, Tyler, I'll be getting a hold of you regarding that.
So I wanted to put that out there.
So look forward to your message from me, man.
I'll talk to you later.
Did he say a lightweight 3500?
I don't want to look up a Dodram 3500 single rear wheel.
I don't see any lightweight about it, but yeah, it's a single rear wheel, not a duly.
If it sounds to me like your toe rating, so a lot of toe ratings are based on engine pullability,
brake ability, and then GVW weight on the axles and suspension, right?
So as long as you're not, you know, if you're changing up the suspension,
then typically you're not really changing your pull ability or your brake ability.
You're mainly changing that GVW ability on the suspension.
And a lot of times when you put in taller suspension, it oftentimes ends up being a
softer suspension. So the best way to combat that and maintain your GVW ratings is with airbags.
Airbags are awesome for helping offset taller, softer suspension
and still maintain your GVW ratings of the vehicle.
And they're great because you don't have to have them engaged all the time.
You could dump all the air out of them and you have your tall, soft suspension,
soft ride, etc. When you load up the vehicle, put a, you know, a big load on the trailer and
have a bunch of tongue weight, put air in the airbags and offsets that and allows your suspension
to really maintain that GVW weighting on it. So yeah, and you can do that with a more plate
compressor. You can run airbags with a more plate compressor. Yeah, for sure. Cool. Yeah.
And I think in regards to tire size on the vehicle there, Uncle Weirdo, it's just, you know,
if you're considering, if you're trying to figure out what compressor to get, I mean,
it just comes down to the tire size to some extent. It doesn't have to do with your, the vehicle
rating or your towing capability. It's just primarily comes down to tire size. But yeah,
get ahold of Tyler. He'll be happy to answer those questions or even Sean at Morphelate,
the customer service gentleman there. He'll be happy to help you out too.
Cool. Sounds good. Should we end up there? Sure. Sounds good. We only got five done, Jimmy. I know.
We're at 34 right now. Dang.
Some fun topics came out. Some nice lengthy topics. Definitely. Yeah.
Well, cool. That does it for today. That for this Friday's snail mail,
hopefully you guys enjoy the remainder of your day. Enjoy the weekend. Be safe out there,
everybody. If you're in Northern California, enjoy the storm that's coming through right now.
It's fantastic. And we'll see you guys all on Monday when I turn 38. Bye-bye.
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