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Soza on Used Disciplines, Byrd on First Pencils, Lawrence on EVs | Daily Dealer Live

Soza on Used Disciplines, Byrd on First Pencils, Lawrence on EVs | Daily Dealer Live

Car Dealership Guy Podcast Apr 20, 2026 70 min
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Dealers in three very different lanes—ultra-luxury, credit/desking tech, and used EVs—break down what’s changing in 2026. Lonnie Sosa (Post Oak Motorcars) argues used luxury growth depends on disciplined inventory buying, the right culture hires, and hospitality-style trust. Michael Byrd (Informative) pushes “Smart Pencil” with early soft-pull credit to create fundable quotes faster and reduce compliance risk. Alex Lawrence (EV Auto) celebrates used EV momentum and driverless taxi rides, then focuses on FTC “advertised price” compliance and what it means for pricing transparency. Tariffs, recalls, and tax-refund sales effects set the backdrop.

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Company

Post Oak Motorcars

"Lonnie Sosa running post oak motorcars where the average deal is, well, high value."

Post Oak Motorcars is the dealership Lonnie Sosa runs. They describe it as doing higher-value deals, meaning they likely sell to a different kind of customer than a typical budget-focused lot.

Concept

first pencil

"Michael Byrd from Informative, the guy promising to end the guessing game on your first pencil."

A “first pencil” is the first set of numbers a dealer puts together for a deal. If those numbers are solid, the whole negotiation usually goes smoother.

Company

EV Auto

"And Alex Lawrence from EV Auto, six months after the tax credit is dead."

They mention EV Auto as the business Alex Lawrence works with. It’s tied to selling used electric vehicles.

Concept

tax credit is dead

"And Alex Lawrence from EV Auto, six months after the tax credit is dead. His used EV lot is, well, it's on fire, plus he's been down south driving Tesla EVs in a taxi fleet."

They’re saying the EV tax credit stopped being available under the old rules. When that happens, fewer people qualify or want to buy, so used EV prices and sales can shift.

Concept

used EV lot

"And Alex Lawrence from EV Auto, six months after the tax credit is dead. His used EV lot is, well, it's on fire, plus he's been down south driving Tesla EVs in a taxi fleet."

A “used EV lot” just means a dealership lot that sells used electric cars. Used EVs can be priced and sold differently than gas cars because of things like battery condition and charging.

Concept

one big beautiful bill

"First up today, the April 15th deadline closed the books on the first tax season under the one big beautiful bill and the refund numbers, well, they're genuinely strong."

They’re talking about a big tax law that changed people’s refunds. The hosts connect it to whether more people are buying cars after getting money back.

Concept

auto loan interest deduction

"The new provisions, no tax, no tips and overtime, larger standard deductions and the auto loan interest deduction, they all contributed to bigger returns for many filers."

They mention a tax rule that could let some people deduct interest paid on an auto loan. If refunds are bigger, some buyers may have more money for a car purchase.

Concept

subprime and near new used

"Some stores saw meaningful lists, lifts particularly in subprime and near new used. While down payments, well, they actually declined from $4,373 down to $4,212 on average in the used market..."

They’re talking about used cars sold to people with credit challenges (subprime) and cars that are still fairly new (near-new). Sales in these groups can swing a lot when interest rates and monthly payments change.

Concept

down payments declined

"While down payments, well, they actually declined from $4,373 down to $4,212 on average in the used market as rising vehicle prices outpaced refund growth."

They say people put less money down on used cars on average. That can make the loan bigger, which matters a lot when interest rates are high.

Concept

elevated interest rates

"However, rising gas prices and elevated interest rates complicated what could have been a cleaner read on the new tax environment."

They’re pointing to higher interest rates on car loans. Higher rates usually mean higher monthly payments, which can make it harder to buy.

Company

Cox Auto's EV market monitor

"used EV sales up 53.9% from February according to Cox Auto's EV market monitor."

They’re citing a specific data report that tracks EV sales. Dealers use this kind of information to understand where the market is going.

Concept

used EV prices dropping to $34,653

"42,924 used EVs were sold in March. That's up 27.7% year over year with average used EV prices dropping to $34,653 now within about $1,000 of the average ice vehicle price."

They’re saying the cost of used electric cars is getting cheaper. That matters because it makes used EVs feel more like a normal option instead of a premium one.

Concept

average ice vehicle price

"used EV prices dropping to $34,653 now within about $1,000 of the average ice vehicle price."

“ICE” stands for internal combustion engine, meaning gasoline or diesel vehicles. The comparison is used to show used EV pricing is nearing the cost of typical non-EV alternatives, which can shift consumer behavior.

Concept

expiration of clean vehicle tax credits

"isn't shocking given the rebate that concluded after that. Following the expiration of clean vehicle tax credits"

These are government discounts for buying certain clean cars. When the discount ends, fewer people buy new EVs, which can ripple through the used market later.

Brand

Tesla

"and Tesla continues to dominate with nearly 50% market share. The practical takeaway for dealers is on the used side..."

They’re saying Tesla is selling a big share of EVs. When one brand dominates, it can affect how the whole EV market moves, including used prices.

Concept

off lease volumes building

"The practical takeaway for dealers is on the used side, off lease volumes building, prices are approaching parity with ice and buyers are increasingly open to used EVs..."

When leases end, cars come back and get sold as used cars. If more cars are coming off lease, dealers have more inventory and prices can change.

Concept

battery condition is disclosed up front

"and buyers are increasingly open to used EVs when battery condition is disclosed up front."

Used EV buyers worry about how healthy the battery is. If the seller shows the battery condition clearly, it’s easier for buyers to feel confident and pay a fair price.

Concept

tariff update

"Next up today moving to a tariff update, EU auto exports to the US fell 22% in February."

Tariffs are extra taxes on imported cars or parts. If tariffs go up, it can make it harder for automakers to make money and can change prices for buyers.

Term

GPHEV engines

"Stellantis filed two separate recalls covering GPHEV engines with potential fire risk from casting contamination and 2026 RAM 2500s where a module fault can disable electronic stability control without warning."

This refers to a plug-in hybrid type of engine. The key point here is that the recall is about a possible fire risk caused by a manufacturing problem in a cast part.

Term

casting contamination

"Stellantis filed two separate recalls covering GPHEV engines with potential fire risk from casting contamination and 2026 RAM 2500s where a module fault can disable electronic stability control without warning."

Casting contamination means something unwanted got into a metal part during manufacturing. If that part is part of the engine, it can sometimes cause serious problems—like overheating or even a fire risk—so manufacturers issue recalls.

Term

electronic stability control

"2026 RAM 2500s where a module fault can disable electronic stability control without warning."

Electronic stability control is a safety system that helps keep the car from sliding out of control. If it turns off unexpectedly, the car may not correct itself as well when you brake hard or hit slick roads.

Car

Ram 2500S

"Stellantis filed two separate recalls covering GPHEV engines with potential fire risk from casting contamination and 2026 RAM 2500s where a module fault can disable electronic stability control without warning."

This is about a 2026 Ram 2500 recall. The issue described could disable the car’s stability safety system, which helps the vehicle stay controlled in tricky situations.

Car

Kia Carnival

"Kia recalled, 141,000 Carnival minivans over loosening fuel pipe nuts"

This is a Kia Carnival recall. The problem mentioned is that fuel pipe nuts could loosen, which can create a fuel leak and a potential fire risk.

Car

Lexus RC

"Recalled just over 9100 IS, RC and GS models over a fuel pump defect that can cause a stall at highway speeds."

The Lexus RC is included in a recall tied to the fuel pump. The issue can cause the car to stall on the highway, which is why it needs attention.

Car

Lexus GS

"Recalled just over 9100 IS, RC and GS models over a fuel pump defect that can cause a stall at highway speeds."

The Lexus GS is part of a recall about the fuel pump. The concern is that it can cause stalling while driving at highway speeds.

Term

fuel pump defect

"Recalled just over 9100 IS, RC and GS models over a fuel pump defect that can cause a stall at highway speeds."

A fuel pump defect means the car may not be getting fuel the way it should. If the engine doesn’t get enough fuel, it can stall—especially scary at highway speeds.

Concept

negative equity

"DNC says negative equity is up to $7,300. That puts pressure on future sales, too."

Negative equity means your car is worth less than what you still owe on it. When you trade it in, the “gap” usually gets added to your next loan, which can make the next deal more expensive.

Company

Fertitta Automotive

"Let's go to Lonnie Sosa, Vice President of Fertitta Automotive. Lonnie, welcome to the show... I run Fertitta Automotive Group, which does own brands such as Rolls-Royce, Bentley, Bugatti."

Fertitta Automotive is the company the guest works for. They’re described as a dealership group that handles multiple luxury brands, which helps explain their business focus.

Concept

inventory availability

"...a little bit of a rebound, I think, due to some inventory availability, some programs that the factories are putting out..."

Inventory availability means whether dealers can actually get cars to sell. If there are more cars on the ground (or on the way), buyers have more choices and sales tend to pick up.

Brand

Bugatti

"...which use each of the brands. Bugatti, of course, is kind of a one-off where we've pre-sold all of our allocation of the new tourbillon..."

Bugatti makes very rare, high-end cars, usually in tiny numbers. The dealer is saying that for Bugatti, they already have buyers lined up before cars even arrive, so the usual “inventory problems” matter less.

Concept

allocation

"...where we've pre-sold all of our allocation of the new tourbillon, and we just continue to engage with our clients..."

Allocation is when a brand decides how many cars each dealer gets. If the cars are already allocated and reserved, the dealer doesn’t have to rely on finding inventory to make sales.

Brand

Rolls Royce

"Rolls Royce, I think, has done a spectacular job going into the end of the year with the turbulence that we had where they cut back the production of inventory..."

Rolls-Royce is a luxury car brand that sells fewer cars than regular brands. The dealer is saying Rolls-Royce adjusted production so there wasn’t too much car inventory sitting around, which helped them keep profits steady.

Brand

Bentley

"Bentley, on the other hand, we got a little long on the inventory, and so that's compressed some margins..."

Bentley makes luxury cars. The dealer is saying they had more cars than they could sell quickly, and that usually squeezes profit because you may need to discount or spend more to move inventory.

Concept

ultra-exotic vs domestics sales cadence

"So on Monday morning of each week, what is the difference in your ultra-exotic versus your domestics?... Not a lot of people ask that... ultra-luxury... Monday is no different than a Wednesday or a Saturday..."

They’re saying the sales rhythm is different depending on the type of dealership. Ultra-luxury tends to be more consistent day-to-day, while regular brands often have a big weekend rush and then a busy Monday catching up.

Brand

Chevrolet

"Of course, Chevrolet, it's just like any other dealer. I mean, you're coming out of your biggest weekend Friday-Saturday business..."

Chevrolet is a regular mass-market brand with lots of dealer activity. The dealer is saying their sales pattern is more “weekend heavy,” so Monday involves lots of cleanup work after the big Friday–Saturday rush.

Term

trades

"...looking at all your trades, getting them organized, and getting them ready to go"

“Trades” are the cars customers turn in when they buy something new. After a busy weekend, dealers have to sort out those trade cars and the paperwork so everything is ready to move forward.

Concept

diversifying the portfolio

"...I think diversifying the portfolio is the big play, right? I mean, you know, having the luxury, domestic, and import kind of having that tripod of a business platform..."

Diversifying the portfolio means you don’t bet everything on one type of car or one brand. If one group gets hit by higher costs or lower demand, other groups can help keep the business stable.

Concept

tripod of a business platform

"...having the luxury, domestic, and import kind of having that tripod of a business platform allows for, you know, for flexibility."

The “tripod” idea means the dealership doesn’t rely on just one kind of car. By selling a mix of luxury, domestic, and import vehicles, they’re less likely to get crushed if one category slows down.

Concept

tariffs

"...Whenever you see issues come up, like, you know, the tariffs, right? Or back in the day, you remember when the tsunami hit Japan and import sales obviously went down..."

Tariffs are extra taxes on cars or parts coming from other countries. If imported cars get more expensive, dealers often sell fewer imports and have to lean more on the brands they already stock.

Concept

import sales

"...you remember when the tsunami hit Japan and import sales obviously went down, and you had to rely on your luxury and domestic stores to pick you up."

Import sales just means cars made overseas that are sold locally. If those cars become harder to get or cost more, dealers may sell more of the cars they can source more easily.

Concept

right people in the right seats

"...one of your biggest recent moves was getting right people into the right seats. What's the actual play there? What did you change about how you hire..."

It means putting the right employees into the jobs they’re best suited for. In a dealership, that can improve how well sales and service teams perform day to day.

Concept

metrics

"...the metrics, hey, if the average is 10 cars per salesperson, I want to sell 200 cars, I need 20 people..."

Metrics are the numbers a dealership uses to judge performance. The point here is that hiring shouldn’t be based only on hitting a sales-number target—you also want the right attitude and team fit.

Concept

culture fit

"What I do for the second interview is I try to have another department manager who's objective... determine if this employee possibly is a fit for our culture. And if they sniff something that doesn't feel right, they can cut it off right there..."

“Culture fit” means the dealership is checking whether the person will work well with the team and follow the way the business is run. They’re using a second interviewer to make sure the decision isn’t biased and to flag concerns early.

Concept

veto rights

"Right, veto. Yeah, no veto rights, right. And so that's quite... from an empowerment standpoint, that's incredible too..."

They’re talking about giving one person the power to stop a hiring decision if they see a red flag. The goal is to avoid pushing forward with someone who might not work out.

Concept

break down all the silos

"We try to break down all the silos in the environment. We don't want to have just salespeople in one group and service technicians in another group and service and BDC... we eat in the same break rooms..."

A “silo” is when departments act like separate worlds. They’re saying the dealership tries to get sales, service, and other teams to work together instead of operating independently.

Company

BCG

"So swinging from from employment over to the market. So BCG and DuPont recently put out a study..."

BCG is a well-known consulting company that publishes business research. In this segment, they’re being used as the source for a prediction about used luxury/exotic car demand.

Concept

secondary luxury exotic market

"BCG and DuPont recently put out a study saying that the secondary luxury exotic market, they predict will grow one and a half times faster than new through 2035..."

They’re talking about the used market for expensive “luxury” and “exotic” cars. The point is that demand for these used cars is expected to grow faster than demand for new ones, so dealers need to plan their buying and pricing accordingly.

Company

DuPont

"So BCG and DuPont recently put out a study saying that the secondary luxury exotic market..."

DuPont is a big company that’s known for industrial materials. In this podcast, it’s mentioned mainly because the hosts say it helped publish a study about used luxury car market growth.

Concept

used car operations

"I mean, that's where most of our growth is. When you look at all of our metrics, we're going to constantly see year over year growth and use car operations."

This is the part of a dealership that handles used cars—finding them, pricing them, and selling them. They’re saying used-car growth is a big driver, but it only works if you buy the right cars in the right quantities.

Concept

buying the right inventory

"you need to have the disciplines of buying the right inventory... And having the volume of inventory... do I have the right 100 cars in inventory, the right mix..."

They mean you can’t just buy any used cars and hope they sell. You need to choose the right types of cars and quantities based on what you know you can sell.

Concept

right mix

"if I say I want to have 100 cars in inventory, do I have the right 100 cars in inventory, the right mix, right?"

“Right mix” means the dealership should stock a balanced set of cars, not just a certain number. For example, they want the right kinds of cars at the right price levels so they can sell them quickly.

Concept

selling in under 30 days

"you need to buy or source vehicles that you have a history of selling, right? And selling in under 30 days..."

They’re talking about how fast the dealership can sell a car after buying it. Selling quickly (like within about a month) helps the dealer avoid extra costs and keeps inventory from sitting too long.

Concept

max PBR

"selling in under 30 days or selling at, you know, max PBR, but not just putting units out there just to put iron on the ground..."

“PBR” sounds like a dealership pricing rule/benchmark that helps them decide whether a used car deal makes money. They’re saying they don’t just list cars—they only move units when the pricing supports the business.

Concept

putting units out there just to put iron on the ground

"...but not just putting units out there just to put iron on the ground, right?"

They’re saying don’t just buy cars and park them on the lot to look busy. The goal is to buy cars you can sell profitably, not just to have more cars sitting around.

Car

Toyota A90

"successes, maintaining the disciplines. I'd love to know what is one discipline you die on the hill for? And interestingly enough, you mentioned 30 days, a 90 day turn at ultra exotic can't be part of that discipline, is it? No, no, but I'll tell you one, one that I would die on the sword for"

The Toyota Supra is a sports car made for performance and driving enjoyment. In the podcast, it’s mentioned while talking about how people handle sales or delivery timelines. That’s likely because it’s a popular car that people often want quickly and in good condition.

Concept

never stop buying cars

"But I'll tell you one, one that I would die on the sword for is never stop buying cars. We get scared, you know, when, when margins get compressed... But those cars are still depreciating."

They’re saying you can’t just stop buying used cars and hope things stay fine. Older cars keep losing value, so if you don’t bring in newer inventory, your profit gets squeezed and you can fall behind when the market changes.

Concept

margin for error

"...like margin for error, like a percent mistake is massive, right? And you have hundreds of thousands, if not millions of dollars in decisions made daily..."

It means there’s not much room to mess up financially. If you price or manage expensive cars slightly wrong, the impact shows up quickly in the dealership’s profits.

Concept

extra digit makes a big difference

"Yeah, that extra digit makes a big difference, right? And so yes, the mistakes can have the mistakes show up on the bottom line a lot quicker than most other brands."

They’re saying that with expensive cars, small changes matter a lot. One small number off in pricing or costs can turn into a big money difference.

Brand

AutoNation

"But, you know, when I came, I was with AutoNation for 17 years before I came over and started running these luxury stores."

AutoNation is a large U.S. automotive retailer, and the speaker references it as their prior employer before moving into luxury store operations. Mentioning AutoNation helps frame the speaker’s dealership experience and how they transferred processes from a mainstream environment to luxury brands.

Brand

Chevy

"...I brought over a sales manager... from my Chevy store into my, my post oak motor store with the luxury brands."

“Chevy” here means Chevrolet, a more mainstream brand. They’re comparing how sales work in a regular domestic dealership versus a luxury dealership.

Brand

post oak motor store

"...I brought over a sales manager... from my Chevy store into my, my post oak motor store with the luxury brands."

This sounds like the name of the dealership location the speaker runs. They’re saying they brought a manager over to help the luxury store perform better.

Car

Ferrari Lake Forest

"I saw that in our own Ferrari store. So Aaron Ziegler purchased Ferrari Lake Forest this past year. And at first you went in there..."

This isn’t a car model—it’s a Ferrari dealership in Lake Forest. They’re talking about how the dealership’s vibe and sales process change when you sell very expensive, rare cars.

Brand

Mercedes store

"And then you actually bring some people in from our Mercedes store and some of the other stores with excitement with activity."

They mention Mercedes as the “normal luxury” comparison to Ferrari’s “ultra-exotic” world. The idea is that different types of luxury customers respond differently to how the dealership behaves.

Concept

60 day turn

"Well, we're actually a 60 day turn at the domestic store. And, you know, I maintain that same 60 day turn on non ultra exotic cars at the luxury store."

A “turn” is how fast a dealership sells a car and gets another one in its place. “60 day turn” means they’re trying to move cars about every two months.

Concept

90 day turn

"in your normal store, 90 day turn, do you have a turn policy at your ultra luxury and exotic stores? Well, we're actually a 60 day turn..."

“90 day turn” is another way of saying how quickly a dealership tries to sell and replace cars—about three months. They’re saying ultra-exotic cars don’t fit that pace as easily.

Concept

120 day turn

"And then when it comes to the ultra exotic, it's more of a 120 day turn. I mean, these cars are too hard, right?"

For the most expensive cars, dealerships usually sell them slower because there are fewer buyers. “120 day turn” means they expect to hold and sell those cars over about four months.

Concept

re-ACVing the cars

"But what you do at 90 days is you start re-ACVing the cars and do write downs, right?"

“Re-ACVing” means updating the car’s value in the dealership’s records. If the market shifts, they adjust the price/value so the inventory stays “priced correctly” even before it sells.

Concept

write downs

"But what you do at 90 days is you start re-ACVing the cars and do write downs, right?"

A “write down” is when the dealership lowers the recorded value of a car because it likely won’t sell for the earlier price. It’s an accounting way to stay realistic about what the car is worth.

Concept

holding cost

"Today's difference is holding cost though. So I do want to talk AI in ultra luxury."

Holding cost is what it costs the dealership to keep a car sitting around instead of selling it. The longer it sits, the more money it quietly burns through things like financing and storage.

Car

Rolls Spectre black badge

"rolls just drop the Spectre black badge. It's a 659 horsepower fully electric, half a million bucks, 490,000."

This is a Rolls-Royce that runs on electricity instead of gas. The “Black Badge” name is basically a special, more aggressive version, and the big question is whether luxury buyers are ready to treat an EV like a normal Rolls-Royce.

Concept

ultra luxury EV vs "second or third car" demand

"Is your clientele ready for a luxury EV or is it still a second or third car and that? Well, I mean, they're all second, third cars in the garage."

They’re saying many luxury EVs are bought as extra cars, not the main car people rely on every day. So the question becomes whether buyers want the EV part, or just want the luxury brand experience.

Concept

AI agents / generative AI / machine learning (in dealerships)

"you have to be very, very careful about what you consider AI, which is basically technically everything that we've been dealing with up until now is some sort of version of AI, whether it's machine learning or generative or AI agents."

The host distinguishes different kinds of AI—machine learning, generative AI, and AI agents—and notes that in automotive retail, “AI” can mean many different tools. They also emphasize that voice/text AI tools may not fit luxury brand expectations, affecting how dealers communicate with high-end customers.

Concept

reengage with dormant customers

"...we use AI to go out there and mine our databases to reengage with dormant customers. And, you know, it may reach out to 200 customers and we may get 20... engagements and appointments..."

They mean contacting customers who haven’t bought or visited in a while. The idea is to use data and AI to reach out again and turn that old interest into new appointments.

Term

lift

"...it may reach out to 200 customers and we may get 20... engagements and appointments out of it. Well, that's a lift that we didn't have before."

In this context, “lift” means incremental improvement from a marketing tool—how much additional engagement and appointments it produces compared to what the dealership had before. It’s essentially a practical ROI framing for outreach campaigns.

Company

Podium AI

"I don't want to say delivering results yet. We're engaging with, you know, we use Podium AI for our Google reviews, which I think that does really, really well."

They’re using Podium AI to help with Google reviews. The goal is to get more reviews and respond faster so more people trust the dealership.

Company

Pam AI

"And then we use Pam AI for our voice. But again, more on the domestic side, we're bringing it in to luxury, but very cautiously..."

They mention Pam AI as a tool related to voice. That usually means it helps with phone calls or voice messages so the business can respond more effectively.

Company

re-imagine

"This particular AI has nothing to do with voice or data. This is re-imaging photos... So it typically takes five to seven days. We're able to use this solution to take pictures of cars in any background... and regenerate these photos and make them front line ready day one."

They’re using an AI photo tool called “re-imagine.” It helps turn messy or hard-to-shoot car photos into clean, listing-ready images faster.

Concept

AI re-imaging photos for car listings

"This particular AI has nothing to do with voice or data. This is re-imaging photos... regenerate these photos and make them front line ready day one."

They’re talking about using AI to fix and improve car photos for online listings. The benefit is faster posting and more consistent-looking pictures, even if the original photos were taken in imperfect conditions.

Term

trade lanes

"Yeah, you can take pictures of these cars on the trade lanes and have them up within the hour, taking them in on trade."

Trade lanes are where cars get handled when they’re coming in for trade. They’re saying you can take photos there and get them online much faster.

Concept

AI-generated photos

"AI-generated photos, do they still work or do you stick to the domestics on those? ... So what you're seeing there, that does not remove the flaws, the scratches, dents, and dings."

They’re talking about using AI to make car listings look cleaner. The important rule they’re emphasizing is: don’t use AI to hide real damage—only use it to improve the photo background while keeping the car’s condition honest.

Concept

remove the signage and the stickers

"This is the actual image of the vehicle, just regenerated with the background, again, using AI to remove the signage and the stickers. And if it had inspection stickers on it, things like that."

They’re saying the AI can take out things like dealership signs or price stickers in the picture. But it shouldn’t be used to cover up damage or mislead buyers about what the car looks like in real life.

Concept

speed and market is key

"Again, speed and market is key, right? So in our world, we lose what domestic $50 a day is what it costs per car."

The segment ties photo turnaround and listing readiness to pricing and inventory velocity—how quickly cars need to be marketed to match demand. In dealer operations, faster, accurate presentation can help reduce time-on-market and keep pricing aligned with the current market.

Concept

hospitality

"So you are in the hospitality world because of the exotics... you cannot make this a transaction, right? It's an experience from the very beginning."

They’re comparing selling cars to running a great hotel or restaurant. Instead of just trying to close a deal, you focus on making the whole experience feel premium and helpful from start to finish.

Company

Mastros

"Give us an example. Mastros, Del Frisco's, Catch, trying to think of the Palm, Golden Nugget Casinos."

They mention Mastros as an example of the hospitality brands they own. It’s used to show they understand how to deliver a high-end experience.

Company

Del Frisco's

"Mastros, Del Frisco's, Catch, trying to think of the Palm, Golden Nugget Casinos."

They bring up Del Frisco's as another example of their hospitality background. The point is that great service and a strong story can carry over to selling cars.

Company

Catch

"Mastros, Del Frisco's, Catch, trying to think of the Palm, Golden Nugget Casinos."

They name Catch as one of the hospitality brands they’re involved with. It’s part of explaining where their “luxury experience” mindset comes from.

Company

Golden Nugget Casinos

"Mastros, Del Frisco's, Catch, trying to think of the Palm, Golden Nugget Casinos."

They name-drop a casino brand to explain the kind of customer experience their company is used to delivering. The takeaway is about service quality, not cars specifically.

Company

The Palm

"Okay. The Palm is great. That's great food, right? That a coast to coast franchise."

They call out The Palm because it’s a well-known restaurant franchise. The lesson is that customers expect a consistent, high-quality experience—similar to what luxury car buyers want.

Concept

after sales

"The transactional part of it or or transacting is actually the easy part. It's the ownership experience that really kicks in with the hospitality. Once that that client owns that car..."

After sales is everything a dealership does after you buy the car. That includes service visits, repairs, and parts, and it’s a big part of keeping customers coming back.

Concept

retention in the service department

"...maybe we have you back for a fixed ops Friday, like retention in the service department, retention of the organization."

Retention means getting customers to keep using the dealership for service. If you maintain the car there over the years, the dealership earns repeat business.

Concept

fixed ops Friday

"...because after all, maybe we have you back for a fixed ops Friday, like retention in the service department, retention of the organization."

“Fixed ops” means the dealership’s service side—repairs, maintenance, and parts. A “Fixed Ops Friday” is likely a discussion about keeping customers coming back for service.

Concept

advertised price

"It really set some ground rules for the entire auto industry as it relates to advertised price."

Advertised price is the number you see in ads for the car. The point here is that dealers may need to present that price in a way that’s accurate and not misleading.

Concept

experience, not a commodity

"My prediction Lonnie is is people are going to start to see the value of creating an experience, not a commodity and this race to the bottom on price..."

A “commodity” is something where the only real difference is price. The speaker is saying dealers should stand out by making the buying and owning experience better, not just cheaper.

Concept

race to the bottom on price

"My prediction Lonnie is is people are going to start to see the value of creating an experience, not a commodity and this race to the bottom on price, hopefully subsides as everybody plays on a level playing field."

This means everyone keeps cutting prices to try to win the sale. The speaker thinks that’s not sustainable and that dealers should compete by offering a better overall experience.

Concept

exotics

"...given us a lot of comments on different vehicles. And everybody must stop on snow at what your average recon cost and time on the exotics like a lot of really good questions and comments on exotic."

“Exotics” are the expensive, high-performance luxury cars. They usually cost more to inspect, repair, and get ready for sale than regular cars.

Concept

recon cost

"...everybody must stop on snow at what your average recon cost and time on the exotics like a lot of really good questions and comments on exotic."

“Recon” means getting a used car ready to sell—fixing issues and cleaning it up. Recon cost is what that preparation work costs the dealership.

Company

Hague Partners

"All right, let's talk Hague Partners. Today's episode is brought to you by Hague Partners... Hague Partners put on an incredible event at NADA this year where they talk about the buy sell marketplace valuations."

Hague Partners is a company that helps dealership owners with big-picture business decisions—especially when it comes to buying or selling a dealership. They also run events where people talk about what dealerships are worth.

Company

Informative

"All right, let's go straight to Michael Burd, Chief Revenue Officer at Informative... We have a solution for auto dealers that sits over the sales process... It puts guardrails around the sales process."

Informative is a tool for car dealerships that helps manage and control parts of the sales process. It’s meant to work alongside the dealership’s existing computer systems instead of replacing them.

Term

CRO

"All right, let's go straight to Michael Burd, Chief Revenue Officer at Informative. Michael, welcome to the show."

CRO means Chief Revenue Officer. It’s a top job focused on helping the business make more money, often by improving sales and customer conversion.

Term

pre-desking tool

"...we've got a new exciting pre-desking tool called Smart Pencil. So that's who we are."

A pre-desking tool is software used before a deal reaches the “desk” stage, where final pricing, paperwork, and approvals typically happen. The segment frames Smart Pencil as a pre-desking tool that supports the sales workflow earlier, helping standardize and control how deals are presented.

Term

Smart Pencil

"...we've got a new exciting pre-desking tool called Smart Pencil. So that's who we are."

Smart Pencil is presented as a new pre-desking tool that supports the sales process and helps put “guardrails” around how deals are handled. The name implies it’s used to generate or manage the initial deal terms/pricing before the customer reaches the desk stage.

Term

CRM

"So does this tool engage in interact with CRMs and DMSs? Yeah, we integrate them all."

CRM is the dealership’s customer tracking software. It helps manage leads and conversations, and this tool is said to connect with it.

Term

DMS

"So does this tool engage in interact with CRMs and DMSs? Yeah, we integrate them all... whether it's a CRM or a DMS."

DMS stands for Dealer Management System, the core software used to run dealership operations like inventory, service, and deal processing. The segment says Smart Pencil integrates alongside DMS/other “key systems,” indicating it’s designed to fit into the dealership’s existing workflow.

Term

standardized rate sheet

"...when it comes to the first pencil, what dealerships are typically doing, they'll have a standardized rate sheet. They'll have some standardized terms."

A standardized rate sheet is a pre-written list of financing rates the dealership uses. The segment is saying some dealers start by using the same rate for everyone instead of tailoring it right away.

Term

10.9% interest rate

"Every consumer will come through, they'll get the same 10.9% interest rate or whatever it may be at that dealership. And there is value to that"

They’re using “10.9%” as an example of a financing rate a dealership might plug into the first offer. The point is that the first numbers can be pre-set rather than fully personalized.

Concept

desking function

"...with Smart Pencil, you want to move the desking function up bundle. Why do you say that's important to do in 2026?"

“Desking” is basically building the final deal numbers for the customer. It’s where the dealership turns all the info into an offer that includes the payment.

Concept

monthly payment

"Well, if we look at most consumers, affordability, which is often a monthly payment, usually how they look at it, it's the primary driver decision making, right?"

A monthly payment is what the buyer pays each month to finance the car. Even if two cars cost different amounts, the one with the payment that fits the buyer’s budget often wins.

Concept

up funnel

"...we move it up funnel, now we're dealing with more tools to get that deal done."

“Up funnel” just means doing the important steps earlier, before you’re deep into the sales process. The goal is to avoid surprises later by lining up the right financing options sooner.

Concept

credit qualified

"So you actually, as part of that up funnel, you talk a lot about credit qualified. How does, and you also talk about soft pulls..."

“Credit qualified” means the buyer’s credit looks like it matches what a lender is willing to approve. It helps the dealer focus on financing options that are more likely to work.

Term

credit pull

"...what is a soft pull to our audience that may be curious the difference between a normal credit pull and a soft pull?"

A credit pull is when someone checks your credit to see how you might qualify for a loan. Some types are more impactful than others, which is why dealers talk about soft vs. hard pulls.

Term

hard pull credit report

"we're going to run hard pull credit reports on that consumer. Hard pull credit report is going to impact that consumer's credit score."

A hard pull is when a dealership/lender checks your credit in a way that can affect your score. It’s typically used when you’re actually considering you for financing, not just checking eligibility.

Term

soft pull

"Soft pull is a little bit different. So soft pull is usually a pre-qualification. Does not impact the consumer..."

A soft pull is a credit check that usually doesn’t hurt your credit score. Dealerships use it to get a sense of your credit before they do anything that could affect your score.

Concept

pre-qualification

"Soft pull is usually a pre-qualification. Does not impact the consumer..."

Pre-qualification is an early “are you likely to qualify?” check for financing. It helps the dealership plan the next steps without immediately doing the kind of credit check that can hurt your score.

Term

FICO score

"...still gives you all the information you need to know in terms of a FICO score and all the trade line information..."

A FICO score is a number that represents how risky it is to lend money to someone. Higher scores usually mean better odds of approval and potentially better loan terms.

Term

trade line information

"...a FICO score and all the trade line information that's important to find out the credit worthiness of that consumer..."

Trade lines are the individual credit accounts listed on your credit report. Looking at them helps a lender see how you’ve handled payments on things like credit cards and loans.

Concept

compliance risk

"...using hard pulls throughout the sales process, which is creating unnecessary compliance risk for the dealer. It's causing impact to consumers."

Compliance risk is the chance a dealership could get in trouble for not following the rules when it checks your credit or sets up financing. The more credit-check activity and the more it affects your score, the more paperwork and rules apply.

Term

adverse action requirements

"We've got our adverse action requirements. We've got all of our compliance that goes along with that..."

Adverse action requirements are the formal notices a dealership has to give you if your credit application is denied or the terms are worse than expected. It’s part of consumer protection rules.

Term

pre-screen

"...unless you're doing a pre-screen, which is a whole another animal... you're still getting the authorization from the consumer to run the soft pull."

A pre-screen is when credit checks are done as part of an offer process, not necessarily because you just sat down at a dealership. It’s a different pathway than a normal credit inquiry.

Concept

lender permutations in real time

"We run all those lender permutations in real time using the dealer's requirements."

This means the system tests lots of financing options quickly, using different lender rules, to build the best deal it can. It’s meant to save time compared to doing everything manually.

Concept

compliance requirements

"Tell us a little bit about the compliance requirements to retain that first pencil. Yeah. So the first pencil and actually every pencil of that matter should be stored on that deal jacket for the consumer."

Compliance requirements are the rules dealerships have to follow when they handle credit and financing paperwork. They also have to keep records so they can prove what happened if there’s ever a question.

Concept

deal jacket

"every pencil of that matter should be stored on that deal jacket for the consumer."

A deal jacket is the customer’s deal file where the dealership keeps the paperwork. The point is that the quotes and changes are saved in one place for that customer.

Concept

profitability is left on the table

"So a lot of times profitability is left on the table. With our system, we're able to streamline all of that for the dealership, ensuring that we're protecting the profit on each and every deal..."

The hosts argue that dealerships can lose money when deals aren’t structured and managed efficiently—especially at the desk. They frame “left on the table” as missed opportunities to protect and standardize profit across deals.

Concept

FTC letter

"We've talked a lot about the FTC letter that was sent out to 97 dealers last month by the FTC. Senator Bernie Moreno was on the show last week..."

The FTC (Federal Trade Commission) is described as sending a letter to a group of dealers, framing it as a “cleanup” effort to raise compliance and business standards. In this context, it’s tied to how dealers conduct sales practices and how deals are presented.

Concept

cleanup on aisle nine

"Senator Bernie Moreno was on the show last week. He called it a cleanup on aisle nine. He said five percent of dealers just aren't doing business the right way..."

It’s a colorful way of saying regulators are going to crack down and improve how dealerships operate. In this episode, it’s used to set up a discussion about what dealers need to change in their sales process.

Concept

syndicate those payments

"...dealers are going to start looking at is how can we syndicate those payments further down the process... What are we quoting them online? And what are we actually quoting them inside the dealership?"

They’re talking about making sure the payment numbers you show online match the numbers you use inside the dealership. “Syndicate” just means share or carry the same payment setup through different systems.

Company

Mar-Tec solution

"...whether it's on our website or whether it's through a calculator or through a Mar-Tec solution, I think one of the things that dealers are going to start looking at is how can we syndicate those payments..."

Mar-Tec is referenced as a solution used for quoting payments, likely as part of dealership digital retailing/lead-to-sale workflows. The hosts use it to illustrate that dealers need consistency between online calculators and in-store deal quoting.

Term

fundable payment

"And it's also credit qualified. So it's an actual fundable payment. It's not just a guesstimate."

A “fundable payment” is a payment quote that is actually financeable through the lender’s approval process, not just a rough estimate. The point is that the payment is based on real credit/financing parameters, so it’s more likely to turn into a completed deal.

Concept

syndicate that payment

"...we can actually, when that consumer does step into the dealership or does engage online to start a deal, we can syndicate that payment so it's consistent across the board."

They’re talking about keeping the payment number consistent across the website and the dealership. That way, the customer isn’t surprised when they show up.

Concept

brick and mortar

"Yeah. And to your point about starting online, coming in brick and mortar, that's horrible where we start online, and it falls one process."

“Brick and mortar” means the physical dealership. The discussion is about how starting online changes what customers expect when they finally come into the store.

Concept

dusking process

"pencil or dusking process looks different in store than it did online. It's disjointed. Unfortunately, the more tools and technologies we can adopt and work with an automotive to help make that contiguous all the way through the process."

The “dusking process” is described as a step in-store that differs from the online process, implying a handoff between digital and in-person deal steps. The discussion focuses on making that process contiguous so the customer experience stays consistent from start to finish.

Concept

customer has had an elite experience

"So the customer has had an elite experience on the other side, that's going to help everybody in automotive. Michael Burd, Chief Revenue Officer at Informative."

The hosts emphasize that improving the customer experience across the entire automotive buying process benefits everyone in the industry. The contrast is with “race to the commodity bottom,” suggesting that competing purely on price can harm long-term value.

Concept

driverless vehicle

"I opened up my social media several days ago and I saw you in a driverless vehicle and it just made me smile to see it. Tell us about the experience..."

A driverless vehicle is a car that drives itself without a person behind the wheel. The speaker is saying it still dealt with normal problems like traffic and road work.

Concept

RoboTaxi app

"I was down in Austin and I downloaded the RoboTaxi app and put in a request for a ride. It showed up a couple minutes later. Nobody was in the car."

The RoboTaxi app is how you request a driverless ride. You open the app, ask for a pickup, and the car comes without a human driver.

Company

Waymo

"What has changed about the technology now that it's not just Waymo, now it's Tesla that's also delivering driverless experiences? ... Waymo was reported over the weekend to have turned left into oncoming traffic."

Waymo is a company that builds self-driving cars. They run driverless rides in some cities, and the hosts are comparing that to what other companies are doing now.

Concept

robotaxi / driverless delivery experiences

"What has changed about the technology now that it's not just Waymo, now it's Tesla that's also delivering driverless experiences? ... a lot of people will be uncomfortable with a driverless car, but a lot of people won't."

This is about self-driving cars being used like a ride service, not just a tech demo. The discussion suggests people may adopt it if it’s cheaper and easier, even if some are nervous about the idea.

Concept

regulatory approval as a bottleneck for autonomy

"Yeah, I mean, it's just, I think a lot of it's regulatory folks because I've got it on pretty darn good inside info that the capability to do this stuff has been around for a while."

Even if the technology works, governments have to approve how and where it can be used. The speaker’s point is that rules and safety requirements can slow down deployment until they’re satisfied.

Concept

driverless car safety statistics (crashes per miles/hours)

"the latest data from the, what is the NTSB they track is either hours or miles... every non self-driving car gets in a wreck... and then every Tesla FSD car is like one in seven million."

The segment discusses how autonomy safety is often measured using exposure-based rates like crashes per miles or crashes per hours. That approach tries to account for how much driving time each system actually logs, rather than just counting raw incidents that may be influenced by how widely a system is deployed.

Company

NTSB

"the latest data from the, what is the NTSB they track is either hours or miles."

The NTSB is a U.S. safety agency that studies crashes and transportation safety. Here, they’re using NTSB-style tracking to compare how often crashes happen for self-driving cars versus regular cars.

Term

FSD

"every non self-driving car gets in a wreck, one in every 600,000 miles or 600,000 hours, and then every Tesla FSD car is like one in seven million."

FSD is Tesla’s name for its self-driving software. The idea is that the car can handle more of the driving tasks, and the speaker is arguing it’s safer than people driving.

Concept

doc fee FTC rules

"There was a lot of question behind doc fee. Is it included in the advertised price? Or is it not? ... the FTC version two last Friday, the FTC was absolutely clear... it should be in the advertised price."

A “doc fee” is money dealers charge for handling paperwork. The FTC’s guidance is about whether that fee has to be included in the price you see advertised, so shoppers can compare offers fairly. If it’s not handled the right way, the advertised price can be misleading.

Concept

NADA call with the FTC version two

"And on the NADA call with the FTC version two last Friday, the FTC was absolutely clear..."

NADA is a dealer industry group, and they sometimes host calls to interpret new government rules. Here, they’re talking about an FTC update and how dealers used that information to change how they present pricing. It’s basically “how the rules get translated into real dealership practice.”

Term

tax and registration

"the only thing that we required that wasn't a part of the purchase price in the tax and registration was at doc fee."

Taxes and registration are costs the government requires you to pay when you buy a car. Dealers often list these separately from their own fees. Here, they’re saying their deal price didn’t require extra dealer charges beyond what’s legally required.

Term

trade in

"They don't have to trade in a car. They don't have to buy any, any warranties or packages or anything like that."

A trade-in is when you use your current car’s value to reduce the price of the new one. They’re saying you didn’t have to trade in your car to get the advertised price. That makes the offer more straightforward for buyers.

Term

warranties or packages

"They don't have to buy any, any warranties or packages or anything like that."

Dealers sometimes sell extra coverage or bundles—like extended warranties or add-on services. They’re saying you didn’t have to buy those extras to get the price they advertised online. That helps shoppers understand what’s truly included.

Term

Utah doc fee rule

"in the state of Utah, it wasn't required to be like in the actual price, ours would have the price and then it below it."

They mention that Utah had a different rule about how doc fees had to be shown. So their online pricing display was set up one way for Utah. When they heard the newer FTC interpretation, they changed their approach.

Concept

price to market

"Lead providers pull your price and they decide whether to dish up your vehicles based on price to market, right?"

“Price to market” means setting vehicle pricing based on what similar cars are selling for in the local market, rather than using a fixed markup. Dealers using market-based pricing can adjust faster when demand or competition changes. The discussion ties this to how pricing transparency (including fees) affects whether inventory sells.

Concept

FTC says

"...because that's what the FTC says that they wanted anyway... I didn't need two webinars to decode that. I thought it was super, super clear."

The FTC is a U.S. agency that helps enforce fair business and consumer-protection rules. In car sales, it pushes dealers to be clear about the real price and fees. If a dealer doesn’t follow the rules, consumers and regulators can call it out.

Concept

shipping fee

"They also do things like they require you to pay a shipping fee, you know, or they require that's exactly they require you to trade in a car..."

A “shipping fee” is money charged to move the car from where it came from to the dealership. It’s only fair if it’s clearly shown up front. If it’s added late or hidden, it can make the price look different than what you expected.

Concept

public is going to police these folks

"...what's going to happen is the public is going to police these folks. They're going to turn it in the FTC has got a really easy way to turn in these dealers."

This refers to consumer and public accountability—using reviews, reporting, and social media to expose dealers that don’t follow pricing rules. The segment suggests that once pricing practices become visible, dealers will adjust to avoid reputational and regulatory consequences. It’s a commentary on how compliance pressure can come from both regulators and consumers.

Term

cash price and the finance price

"I mean, the cash price and the finance price at a lot of franchise dealers around here, they're two different prices."

The discussion highlights that some dealers list different prices depending on whether you pay cash or finance through them. This can be tied to incentives, reserve, or how the dealer structures the deal, and it affects how you should compare offers.

Concept

FTC coming after you

"No one wants to have a large entity like the FTC coming after you know, and and but on the on the other stuff, you know, like I said, I've got another company here..."

They’re talking about the government agency that can investigate and penalize companies for misleading advertising or unfair practices. Even if a fine is the headline, the reputational damage can be worse.

Term

transportation fee

"like I said, I've got another company here, they charge $1,000 transportation fee. And so I mean, they've always baked that into their margins."

A transportation fee (often called “freight” or “delivery”) is a charge dealers add to cover moving the vehicle from the manufacturer to the dealership. It’s frequently baked into pricing, but it can still show up as a line item that affects the final number the buyer sees.

Company

Cox dealer.com

"And I think the lead providers are having an important role in this props to Cox dealer.com props to true car props to car gurus and everyone else..."

They’re giving a shout-out to a company involved in dealer advertising/lead generation. The point is that these platforms can help show more of the real pricing details sooner.

Company

true car

"props to Cox dealer.com props to true car props to car gurus and everyone else that very quickly went to say, Hey, we're going to have the line we're going to pull dock fee..."

TrueCar is a website/app where you can see pricing information and dealer offers. The hosts are saying it can pressure dealers to be clearer about the real total price.

Term

dock fee

"...that very quickly went to say, Hey, we're going to have the line we're going to pull dock fee and we're going to do everything we can to dish it up..."

“Dock fee” is used here as shorthand for a dealer add-on charge (often associated with vehicle preparation, handling, or similar fees) that can inflate the final price. The hosts imply platforms helped reduce or eliminate these surprise fees by pushing for clearer line-item disclosure.

Concept

level playing field

"Yeah, I mean, I believe that the vast majority of the industry will be level playing field where the prices that are on the website will match the price that you show up and can pay."

It means everyone has to play by the same rules. So the price you see online should be close to the price you pay when you show up in person.

Concept

price transparency

"...the prices that are on the website will match the price that you show up and can pay... And that the and as it should be, it's it's the responsibility of your salespeople to show extra value..."

Price transparency means the deal should be clear up front. Instead of surprises later, the price you see should be what you end up paying.

Term

warranty

"...it's the responsibility of your salespeople to show extra value that creates more margin at the point of sale. Hey, let me let me help you figure out why you want this warranty..."

A warranty is coverage that helps pay for certain repairs if something breaks. Dealers often sell extra coverage beyond the factory warranty, and the salesperson’s job is to explain whether it’s worth it for you.

Brand

GM

"...you've founded a company that's 100 years old... it's taken away because GM's maybe who"

GM is General Motors, one of the big car companies in the U.S. The point here is that even a huge, long-running company can lose trust if it gets caught up in problems.

Brand

Virginia Auto Dealers Association

"We're going to have Don Hall on head of Virginia Auto Dealers Association on Friday. He's always great on this topic."

The Virginia Auto Dealers Association is a dealer trade group, and the host says they’ll have its head on the show. Trade associations often provide industry data and policy perspective that can influence how dealerships plan for EV adoption and service/parts strategy.

Company

Evia Auto

"So Alex Lawrence, CEO, co-founder of Evia Auto, we're going to have you back in just a minute for our round table."

Evia Auto is the company Alex Lawrence helps run. They’re discussing EVs and how the market is changing, so the company name is part of that EV conversation.

Company

Fertata Automotive

"...Lonnie Lonnie. So as a vice president of Fertata Automotive, welcome back to you both. By the way, Lonnie, did I get Fertata?"

This is the dealership company Lonnie works for. The host is just clarifying how to say the name while setting up the EV discussion.

Concept

EV future / gas prices affecting EV adoption

"So you both agree on EVs, which I think is interesting from Lonnie's perspective. Lonnie, what is the future of EV in your marketplace? Given the rising prices of gas?"

The segment frames EV demand as tied to gasoline price swings—when gas gets expensive, some buyers consider switching to EVs. It also references macro events (like geopolitical disruptions) that can raise fuel prices and influence consumer behavior.

Concept

Strait of Hormuz being closed

"...or do you think it's the market will be more resilient to gas prices going up on the Iran war and the Strait of Hormuz being closed right now Lonnie?"

The Strait of Hormuz is a major chokepoint for global oil shipments. If it’s disrupted, crude oil prices can spike, which then raises gasoline prices and can indirectly affect consumer decisions like whether to buy an EV.

Concept

gas prices going up on the Iran war

"...given the rising prices of gas? Is there a dollar per gallon that breaks the market kind of like it did in 08 or do you think it's the market will be more resilient to gas prices going up on the Iran war..."

They’re saying wars and political conflicts can affect oil supply, which can raise gas prices. When gas gets more expensive, some people start looking harder at EVs.

Concept

drivetrain option

"But as far as EVs going into the future, taking them the volatility out of it, I think it's just going to be another drivetrain option, right? I mean, I'm a live vehicle, do I want the 8 cylinder, do I want the 6, 4, or do I want an EV?"

The term “drivetrain option” frames EVs as one choice among multiple powertrain types—like 4-, 6-, or 8-cylinder gasoline engines versus electric power. The point being made is that consumers will ultimately choose based on preference rather than a single forced direction.

Concept

EV demand

"Yeah, I mean, there's a direct connection to gas prices and EV demand. It doesn't take a genius to, but to my point, I mean, there's a lot more affordable EV options now."

EV demand just means how many people want to buy electric cars. If gas gets expensive, more people may consider EVs, especially when EVs become cheaper to buy.

Car

Ford F-150

"Other than the Ferrari and the Lambo and the Rolls-Royce and how many times has a neighbor like come over to you and said, Hey, have you seen this Ford F-150 that I got?"

The Ford F-150 is a very popular pickup truck. In the conversation, it’s mentioned as a common gas vehicle that usually doesn’t spark the same excitement as EVs.

Concept

word of mouth marketers

"And there is an army of word of mouth marketers out there that are doing this every day. And they're bringing in their neighbors, they're bringing in their mom..."

“Word of mouth” marketing is when customers promote products through personal recommendations rather than traditional advertising. Here, it’s presented as a major driver of EV adoption: owners bring friends and family along, creating momentum as EVs become more common.

Car

Hyundai Palisade

"I was saying, I got to take you for a ride in this Palisade. You got to come sit in this thing. You got to watch it."

The Hyundai Palisade is a big family SUV with three rows of seats. The host is saying it’s a nice-looking vehicle that gets people to notice it on the lot.

Car

Rivian R1S

"I think I like the R1S, the seven seater Rivian SUV. I think that's got a nice build quality to it and stuff."

The Rivian R1S is an electric SUV with room for seven people. The host is saying it feels well-built and looks good compared with many other EVs.

Concept

EV acceleration and self-driving features

"But no, people are, it's the self driving and the acceleration. You don't have to, you don't have to have a key, you don't have to press a button, you don't have to do any of these things."

EVs often feel quicker because electric motors deliver torque instantly, which can create strong acceleration. The speaker also ties EV appeal to driver-assistance and “self-driving” experiences—features that can reduce how much the driver has to do day to day.

Term

no key

"You don't have to, you don't have to have a key, you don't have to press a button, you don't have to do any of these things."

“No key” usually means you can unlock and start the car without putting a key in the ignition. You just keep the key fob with you and the car recognizes it.

Car

Model Y

"model Y, like the look of it. People have seen a million of them, but it's, it's what the cars can do and what, how much money they can save."

The Tesla Model Y is an electric SUV. The hosts are talking about how people can compare the money they’ll spend on it (like charging) versus what they’d spend on a gas car.

Concept

long-term relationship vs transaction-focused sales

"I would love for somebody that bought a $15,000 Model 3 for me to feel like they bought a new Ferrari... We're here to... have you come by many cars from us and refer many people to us and not get caught up in... just the transaction?"

They’re talking about how some dealers focus on making the sale, while others focus on building a relationship. The relationship approach aims to keep customers happy after they buy, not just during the paperwork.

Car

Tesla Model 3

"I would love for somebody that bought a $15,000 Model 3 for me to feel like they bought a new Ferrari from Lonnie, like in terms of how we cared for them..."

The Tesla Model 3 is an electric car. The point being made is about customer experience—treating a regular EV buyer with the same care you’d give a high-end luxury customer.

Concept

cost of ownership

"So I like what Alex is doing with this separate website where you can go and determine the cost of ownership of these vehicles."

“Cost of ownership” is the total cost to run and maintain a vehicle over time, not just the purchase price. For EVs, it often includes electricity/charging costs, insurance, maintenance, and other recurring expenses, which is why the hosts emphasize tools that estimate savings versus gas.

Company

FTC regulations

"I love what we're doing with the, what we're doing with the transparency with the FTC regulations. I hate the pricing"

The FTC is a U.S. agency that helps protect consumers from misleading advertising. The hosts are saying that being transparent with pricing and offers has to follow FTC rules.

Concept

used EV inventory

"[3945.0s] selling EVs. I kept waiting like, God, you know, everybody kind of hates them and hates on them [3949.9s] and nobody wants anything to do with them. And, and I think over the next 24 months with gas prices [3956.3s] and stuff, we're just seeing a lot more people that are acquiring them at auction and I'm not [3960.8s] wanting to sell them to us, not wanting to get rid of them. And so, so yeah, just increase, increase [3966.2s] competition for a used EV inventory."

They’re talking about the supply of used electric cars that dealers can buy at auction and resell. The idea is that more EVs are ending up on the used market, so dealers compete harder to get them.

Concept

franchise dealer

"[3966.2s] Yeah, I've asked you this before, Alex, would you become a [3971.6s] franchise DV dealer? I mean, Tesla would be the easy one, but if a Chinese OEM came out and said,"

A franchise dealer is a dealership that’s officially allowed to sell a specific brand. They’re asking whether an EV company would switch to that kind of dealer arrangement in the U.S.

Concept

manufacturer direct to consumer

"[4011.0s] Well, what, what, what's your biggest threat to your business model next 24 months? [4015.1s] I think for, I think for all of us, the biggest threat is the manufacturer direct to consumer"

Instead of buying through a local dealership, the car company sells directly to you. That can hurt dealers because they may lose sales and the usual ways they make money on inventory.

Brand

Honda

"prevent that from happening. Sony, Honda recently pulled back on that VW despite all their financial challenges seems to be going forward."

Honda is a major car maker, and they’re being used as an example of a company changing strategy. The discussion is about business decisions, not a specific Honda model.

Brand

VW

"Sony, Honda recently pulled back on that VW despite all their financial challenges seems to be going forward."

VW (Volkswagen) is mentioned as the company that Honda “pulled back on,” implying a strategic or business decision. Here it’s part of an analogy about how automakers respond to pressures even when they’re financially strained.

Brand

Sony

"prevent that from happening. Sony, Honda recently pulled back on that VW despite all their financial challenges seems to be going forward."

They’re using Sony as an example of a big company changing course. The point is about strategy and risk, not cars specifically.

Concept

AI

"Never stray from no matter what shiny objects come, especially AI. Be very, very, very careful with the AI. It's a great injection into our business, but it's also you need to be very cautious with how you do it."

They’re talking about using AI in the dealership business. The message is: AI can help, but don’t rush—make sure it’s used responsibly and doesn’t cause unintended issues.

Concept

compensation process

"change your compensation process, start looking at how your teams might change, changing your advertising, just like run towards it, be a leader"

This means how the dealership pays its employees—like bonuses or commissions. If rules change, the pay plan may need to change too so everyone is rewarded the right way.

Concept

advertising

"start looking at how your teams might change, changing your advertising, just like run towards it, be a leader"

They’re saying dealerships may need to change how they advertise. If the rules or consumer expectations shift, the ads and messaging may need updates.

Concept

gas prices benefit EVs

"And EV Alex, I think you're the only one hoping the Strait of Hormuz stays closed for a long time because gas prices benefit EVs."

When gas gets expensive, driving a gas car costs more, so EVs can seem like a better deal. But the host warns that disruptions can still raise costs for parts and materials used in EVs too.

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