Spy Shots of New Ferrari are Ugly! Audi RS5 Wagon Revealed! Big Trouble for Scout?
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starter motor
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mild hybrid
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plug-in hybrid
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turbo V6
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RS cars
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throttle tip-in
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turbo V8
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horsepower
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Hello, and welcome to this car pod.
I'm Kenan.
I'm Felipe.
There's a lot to talk about.
Bring on our first news story.
Oh, yes.
Oh, yes.
Stop.
Start.
So the White House recently put a video related to this.
So the Trump administration has said that they're going to be removing the credits for
automakers to install start-stop technology.
They claim that it really upsets people, and everybody's mad about it.
People don't like it.
Everybody's mad about it.
They all hate it.
People don't like it.
People don't like it.
Me?
I'm actually not that bothered by it.
Well, you've never driven a car that has...
Yes, I have.
I have an owned one, but I've driven many.
You and your life have never been around a car...
The first time it happened to me in an 8-12 Superfast, I was a little surprised at that,
I have to say.
I will say, I don't hate it.
Well, you...
I don't feel strongly about it.
You're Felipe.
I don't feel strongly about it in any way.
We know that you don't hate it.
We also know that you like government over reach.
The government reaches into your house, you're like, come on, government.
More.
More reaching.
Getting out of Felipe's house and reaching.
Some manufacturers...
Have you seen the video?
That's the big thing, is that the White House has put out a video.
No, we can't watch the video.
We can't watch it.
Yes, we can.
We have to watch it.
We can.
There's a video where there's a couple of people we're not going to explain what they
are.
There's another person that...
Clearly a Coca-Cola, and she's on that side of the car, and then all of a sudden she's
on the other side, and it's in some AI car that doesn't exist.
You don't think that's a Roma?
No.
No.
And it says, they're leaving auto stop, start in the dust, I think it was, so they're making
something hot again.
I do have a few questions about the video.
I don't want to talk about the video.
Keep it cool while making America hot again.
If we talk about the video, the comments are going to be just littered with this crap.
We didn't...
Let's stick to the cars.
I'm going to keep it car related.
Okay.
First of all, it starts with the second gen Prius, we're talking about the third gen Prius,
and then goes to the second gen Prius, and also the Prius, to my knowledge, does not
have a start, stop on, off button.
No, I don't think it does.
That's the third gen Prius the whole time.
Nope.
The interior in that shot is actually also the second gen Prius.
No.
And then we'll just wait, just wait.
It's all a third gen Prius.
And then wait, look, wait, wait, wait, look.
Oh yeah.
That's definitely...
And that is the car portion of this that we can talk about.
Auto start, stop, people don't like it, and I think that this is a response to the people
not liking it.
Yep.
There is some benefit that it has.
Emissions.
Yeah.
I've heard that Europe is going to make it non-defeatable, or maybe they already have.
That's Europe.
We don't.
We don't.
I read the statement, Motor Trend did a great thing of talking to a bunch of manufacturers
about what they think.
What are they going to do?
Some were like, it just depends on the market, Ford was like, yeah, I mean, it's kind of
what you'd expect from the various manufacturers.
People don't like it.
I mean, routinely I hear from people that they don't like it.
My thing with it always was, it just seems like it's stressful in the starter motor,
cold weather, it's stressful in the engines, like it seems like it's...
It's only...
Savings are not that great.
Manufacturers, believe it or not, do have engineers, and they figured out how to make
it out of beef up starter motors, and or only late for dinner.
Whenever this comes up...
But didn't BMW just have a recall on the starter motor?
Whenever this comes up, the word beef is used.
Every single time the word beef is used.
Beef is just...
They beef it up.
Why can't you say enhanced?
Every time the starter motor does come up with all those cars...
They enhanced the starter motor.
Because enhanced just sounds delicate, beef is like for dinner.
And also it will only work when you're not...
In most cars, when you're not using a C on high, when you're like when the load on the
engine, when the engine's warmed up, it doesn't really matter though.
They're going to cut the credits for it.
Who really cares?
And auto make...
What do you mean who cares?
A lot of people are going to love this, and you no longer have to be one of the people
who are warm at this light.
You can now be one of the people who's...
Who that are...
Wait a minute, that are hot.
Hot is...
I'm not sure about this.
I mean, both hot and cool mean the same thing.
Keeping cool while making America hot again.
You know, I don't get it, but that's okay.
Okay.
It's bizarre.
But the point they were making, which you are obfuscating intentionally because you
love that government, the point they were making is that people don't like this and
they are getting rid of it.
And now it will be good.
The removing incentive that manufacturers have been pursuing...
You're trying to imply that some manufacturers will not get rid of it.
Of course.
I don't agree with that.
I think they're going to get rid of it.
You, for example, you have a mild hybrid in your E-class wagon.
The main benefit is that the engine can shut off more easily as you're approaching a stop
sign and then maybe give a little bit of power.
The main benefit is that my hybrid system runs at accessories such as the little lights
on the climate control buttons.
What?
It doesn't matter.
Some manufacturers, especially the ones that have hybrids, that have mild hybrids, I suspect
will keep doing it, keep those features going.
They'll probably do it for cars where they figure that people won't care.
But like trucks and Ferrari, they'll probably drop it.
Sure.
I mean, it adds, you have to beef up the starter motor for God's sake.
You have to imagine that they expect that the credits will come back for it and or that
emissions requirements will come back eventually and so I don't.
Yeah, but if you can get a few years out of not beefing up your starter motor, you take
a button away.
There's no beef.
You could go chicken and poultry or a Chick-fil-A.
What's our next news story?
This is interesting.
We'll see what happens.
Interesting and bizarre.
And root to people that don't preach as I think.
This is a big deal.
I want to talk a little bit about this.
A couple of weeks ago, I get in my inbox there.
You know my inbox?
Sure.
I get a note.
Hey, this is happening.
This RS5 Avant and they send me, they send us little, little embargoed information.
Well, elite, not by me.
But now that the leak is here, I got an email from Audi today saying, please stick to the
embargo, folks, elite.
It's out there.
I ain't taking it all embargo.
This is not the photo that you received.
This is the photo that we pulled from one of the website.
I actually never even looked at the photo.
I'm super, super honest.
But this is, but this is because they always give you like a silhouette.
That's what they give the journalists.
Well, the real stuff's out there.
This is cool as hell.
Yeah.
What do we know about it?
That we know, know about it?
We know apparently a lot.
I was surprised because I had always said if they brought the M3 Turing to the States,
I would buy one.
I said that for a long time.
They didn't do it.
This is that.
But cooler.
It's the same size because the M5 Turing instead came, which is this gigantonormo-masso
thing.
It's like a transformer.
It's like, what's the fellow's name?
The transformer.
Like the things that you sleep, the boxes that you see outside of a program, like an electrical
transformer.
No, no, no, no.
Like Optimus Prime.
Like the Charlotte Buff transformer.
Like Optimus Prime.
And so it's huge.
It's huge.
Is it transformed?
It may.
There's got to be some explanation for the weight.
And knocks down.
I've never seen the movie.
I don't know.
It's ready.
Yeah.
It's ready to fight for you if it needs to.
There's a component.
It's built in there.
It's in the transmission tunnel.
Anyway, this is not that.
This is the smaller.
So this is M3 size.
Yeah.
And it's a plug-in hybrid.
And it's going to have some amount of power.
The rumor mills says a plug-in hybrid 2.9 liter turbo V6, which I think is so sad because
that's the motor they use in the RS cars already.
I don't like that engine.
Really?
It doesn't have quick response from zero.
It's pretty quick in the range.
So a plug-in hybrid might actually be perfect.
Yeah.
It might improve it.
But I just think.
You have to download torque of the electric motor.
Maybe.
You have to start stopping.
Audi's throttle tip-in has just never been what I've been looking for.
And I bet they're going to screw it up in this car too, but I'm ready to give it a
shot except in the V8s.
The V8s are great.
That turbo V8 is amazing.
It's not really an Audi motor.
It's supposedly 630 horsepower.
Wow.
That's real.
And a wagon.
And it looks like a pretty slopey wagon, but that's OK.
No, it's a real wagon.
There's no slopiness to it because you were thinking because they call it the A5, it's
going to be slopey.
No, it's a straight wagon.
You're going to like it.
One of my complaints with Audi wagons in the last few generations that they've been a
little too slopey for me.
But it's not like this isn't an RC to be practical.
What I'm telling you, though, is this isn't an RC.
Yeah, yeah.
This isn't like a slopey roof thing.
This is like a true wagon.
I don't know.
That roof does go down quite a bit.
But that's what all Audi wagons do.
That's what he's saying.
That's true.
But this will be very cool.
That's a different point.
You know what he wants?
Yeah, honestly.
He wants a 1998 Volvo V70 with a 210 wagon.
He doesn't even care that it has extra power.
And you know what he wants in that V70?
A giant sunroof so the government can come in and reach.
I actually do want less power in my wagon.
He wants less power.
He is the person in that pre-us in that video.
I want an E220 so bad.
Regardless, this is incredible.
I love wagons.
Much powerful.
I love wagons.
I think Audi wagons generally look phenomenal.
630 horsepower.
That's real number.
Real.
Yep.
I can't get him excited about power.
630 horsepower.
That's real.
That's real.
There you go.
The really cool thing about this, in my opinion, because there's also another body style that
I paid attention to and no one cares about that.
But this is the cool one.
And the thing that I think is really exciting, truly, really exciting is that it's the small
size.
We have gotten already now the AMG E63, the M5 Touring, and the Audi RS6.
So the big size wagons have come, but they have massive power and massive weight and
massive expense.
Yep.
Obviously, this will still be expensive.
It's probably an 85 car.
But finally, we have a C63 sized or an M3 sized.
Do we know that it's coming to the US to wagons?
I'm thrilled.
There's clearly been a return to wagons.
And I think there's a large clientele of people, like Ken and myself, well, Ken doesn't
like wagons.
I do like wagons.
I don't have kids.
I don't need the space of a full-size station wagon.
But I would want a station wagon.
I think there's a lot of people.
Like a sport wagon.
Yeah.
I think that's right.
I think that's most of who bought the A4 all-road back when it was still going on 58 years
ago.
I'm pumped.
I'm into it.
I'm so pumped.
Now, I did say that I would get the M3 wagon if it came to the States as it made that statement
five years ago.
Life has changed a lot since then, folks.
I'm not buying this car.
But I hope that you buy it out there.
Yeah, we do.
Or you even.
No.
Yeah, that's not happening.
But yeah.
What if they did a reggae, like a two-liter turbo?
He wants a 1.5.
Yeah.
But collectively smaller.
I don't think they gave 1.5.
No, that would be the first three-solder.
What is all this?
1.5 is my God.
That's a waste.
I don't need a whole soda bottle.
Can you take off the mirrors?
True Europe.
Nice.
Nice.
I'm very excited the wagon is coming in.
I'm very excited that's out.
It looks great.
Yeah, it's not out to be clear.
Sorry.
The design is out.
The image is out.
The image of it is out.
All right.
Give us the next thing.
I'm pumped.
Truly.
All right.
This is maybe the Ferrari Luce.
We talked about the interior of the Ferrari Luce.
I got to be honest.
I saw this 10 minutes ago.
This is the ugliest.
Okay.
The reason that we're talking about it this week is there was an interview where Joe
Johnny Ive, who designed the interior.
We talked about him last week.
Yep.
Also, his firm designed the exterior, too.
He's clearly proud of it.
And he has said that he's a little nervous about the reveal.
What did he say exactly?
Was it that?
Is he American?
No, he's English.
Is he English?
Yeah.
He's American, though, yeah.
He's English.
You know who he is.
He's English.
What did he say?
This guy is great.
He's one of the great industrial designers.
He's to make sure that everybody knows he's Italian.
English, American.
To an Italian, the English, the Americans, the Australians.
He's described on Wikipedia.
He is a sir, by the way.
He's a knight.
As a British American.
Well, okay.
But he's...
He's nervous about the design of the car.
It's still clearly a Ferrari, but it's a different manifestation based on some of the beliefs around
simplicity and the inherent beauty of something.
If it...
Here's my thought.
I just just reading this weekend about Michelangelo sculpting David.
Sure.
And he sculpted David out of a solid block of marble.
Sure.
Chiseled away and told him that David was left.
That's how you made them.
That's how you made them.
Yeah, that's how you made them.
It's like that.
But my point is, what I'm hoping is that this car, I'm hoping that this car, somewhere
lurking inside this block of marble...
What's coming out?
A attractive car.
This is what David looked like after he finished the head.
They're like one arm.
This is grotesque.
If this is even slightly close to what it will look like, it's grotesque and terrible.
Little bread van.
Little bread van.
For those who are listening to audio, this is a camo...
You already described it to audio?
Honestly, it probably sounds better in audio.
It's a car that's built for radio.
We know that he has said that it will be big.
Apparently.
And that there's no disconnection between the interior and the exterior.
It was designed altogether.
And we also know that one of the great...
This is from Neusen, who is the co-designer at Lovejoy.
One of the great and serendipitous sort of things is that this is an electric vehicle,
the first electric Ferrari.
So that has afforded us a degree of freedom that we perhaps would not have otherwise had.
That's literal physical freedom and creative freedom.
That's probably true.
They will lose that freedom after one design, if it's bad.
Italians should design cars.
All great cars have been designed by Italians, including the original Audi A5,
that we were just talking about moments ago.
They're still using that design 20 years later.
You want to know why?
Because an Italian designed it.
Meanwhile, this looks like a Nissan Stagia updated for the 21st century.
Pull up a Stagia, please.
I bet it would be very, very simple in their general design.
Did you see that picture?
In their general design ethic, it will be very simple and a little rounded and kind of cool.
I love the Stagia, by the way.
Very square.
This is your kind of thing.
But this is what this looks like.
It looks like just a complete squared off.
Which I would be into.
But I don't think it's the same.
When I think Ferrari, this isn't the design language that I'm thinking of.
That's why I'm hoping that lurking within this, they chisel away.
We saw the interior and it's very rounded, very simplistic, great use of materials.
And that's probably what's going to be true for the exterior too.
I bet it will look better than you're expecting.
It has to.
I know the last fear.
And I'm just going to put this fear out there.
If the designer is saying that he's worried about it.
By the way, he's just anxious about refuelling it to the world.
Can I tell you the last time a British man designed a Italian car?
Pull up the Alfa Romeo SZ.
Oh, yeah.
That's a great point.
Which I love conceptually, but don't love eyesight-wise.
I agree.
This is what happens when the Italians ask the British.
It should be the other way around.
The British should be asking the Italians to design the cars.
The British should also leave the engineering to someone else.
They should sit out the whole process.
But this should build cars.
Jaguar, glad you're listening.
Sit out the whole process.
Look at this.
It will be radical.
I think it's so cool.
Flippo, you agree it's going to look terrible.
It's going to look radical.
You agree, terrible.
He's too diplomatic.
It's going to be radical.
He's hoping people will sell them on cars and beds.
We can't talk bad about it.
People are going to be selling them on cars and beds.
I do.
Yeah, for 100 grand.
Well, that doesn't matter.
The thing of Porosangue is right now.
No, they're still big money.
They're still big money.
They're still pretty big.
They're cool.
There's another high three.
There will be opinions.
Yeah, of course.
People are going to want to pile on this car to hate it because it's an electric Ferrari
and that is new and different.
Admittedly, I like gasoline engines in my Ferraris.
Yeah, you don't want four door, 1,000 horsepower.
The way to go electric if you're Ferrari is to come out with an F40, but it's electric.
That's how you don't lose people.
No, they're going to come out with this instead.
I don't know if that's true.
I mean, electric supercars like Remont's proved that people didn't.
So what's the alternative?
Come out with an electric station wagon that looks like the 250 Bretton.
I mean, honestly, if it looked exactly like the 250 Bretton.
That's my point.
You can wear it in.
This is grotesque.
I think so.
They added a bunch of...
It won't look like this.
This is obviously a spy shot.
I've seen it up spy shot camos in my life.
You can see in the rear, though, where it changes angle dramatically.
Yeah, this...
I'll tell you what scares me.
This line scares the hell out of me for two reasons.
Number one...
He's talking about from the C pillar to the D pillar.
Yeah, going the whole...
It's basically the belt line and it scares me because this could be faked and just cardboard
that they have on there to fool people.
Yeah.
This is a body line.
This is what the car is going to look like.
Okay?
And you know what it reminds me of?
The Alpha-SZ.
Do you think this British fellow who designed this car talked to his previous British guys?
You keep in mind...
He's one of the great designers.
He's one of the great designers.
But also, I don't think when the iPhone 4 came out, he was like,
I'm apprehensive about revealing this to the world.
He just did it and was like, this is a beautiful product.
It was very wrong.
It was very wrong.
All right.
I'm going to give this...
Give this the benefit of the doubt.
Wow, like Francis.
I'm going to wait to see it come out.
Yeah.
May.
This line scares the hell out of me.
You'll see it in May and or before that if somebody leaks it as they do to Audi's RF5.
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Move on to the next news story and get this off the screen.
Thank God.
Scout.
It's like a looking truck.
Scout, which is a very good looking vehicle, they announced today that they're delayed.
Sad.
They delayed another year.
They said they're delayed until 28 and they claimed, and I think we believe them, they
claimed it's because they're having problems with production and all that stuff.
It has nothing to do with the current EV market.
Hey, the cool thing about this is that they have the range extending engine and based
on something we used a few months ago that we didn't talk about, I don't think, something
like over half of pre-orders are for the range extended version.
The only question that we have is, is the range extending engine a V8?
No.
I think it's a three cylinder or four cylinder.
Oh good.
That's what I want for my full size truck would not be tires.
That's not what powers it.
A three cylinder.
That's not what powers it.
That's what charges the battery.
Yeah, but that presumably powers it if the battery runs out.
No.
Imagine how fast it could be charged.
It's like what they claimed the Volt was, but I don't know what the Volt wasn't actually.
No, but the Volt did what I wanted it to.
They originally claimed that it never was.
The Volt, by the way, named after an Italian.
What?
That's true.
Alessandro Volta.
Oh yeah, fair.
He's one of your countrymen's heroes.
Now, I'll tell you, having looked at the original Volt, it certainly wasn't designed by an Italian.
Probably was designed by a British.
By an British.
I'm not surprised they're delayed.
Why wouldn't they be, frankly?
Well, in their claiming technical issues, you agree with me that it's related to the
market conditions, right?
I bet that they feel okay being delayed as a result, but they also need to put out products
because they need money.
Well, isn't Volkswagen backing this whole thing?
Volkswagen is backing a Rivian as part of the technology team behind it, despite the
fact that this will be their biggest competitor.
And they built a new factory in South Carolina, right?
Yeah.
Scout it?
Yeah.
My thinking is, yeah, they are building a factory in South Carolina.
There's still quite a bit more to go, says the driver.
Which is probably part of the delay here.
The delay is related to the fact that nobody wants an electric car right now.
It says there are two reasons for the delay.
I'm loving this.
A combination of technical issues and existing financial obligations, well, it's Volkswagen.
Volkswagen has some existing financial obligations.
I'm still excited for this.
Are you?
I am generally quite excited about it.
Are you?
Yeah, I'm amped.
It looks cool as hell.
So yeah, they're not apprehensive about the design.
They're just apprehensive about building the thing.
No.
These are going to be hits.
This is going to be a hit.
This is going to be a hit.
Especially here.
28 coincides with the new presidential administration.
So you wonder if maybe they're thinking, certainly the current climate and how many they could
sell right now is going to be a part of it.
But it is hard to get an upstart manufacturer.
Every single company has delayed their launch of the first one.
Yeah, but Scout has a lot of excitement behind it.
There should be better than this.
We've also seen Rivian have huge success without an already known brand name.
Yeah.
No, they should be trying to move a little faster here, but hey, it's going to do.
Yeah.
Right.
Maybe.
Or maybe they're just like, you know what?
We have existing financial obligations.
We're going to wait on this because we don't think it's going to sell.
What does that mean?
They're running out of money?
I'll tell you.
Volkswagen has no money.
That's what it is.
Porsche is dead.
Remember when Volkswagen announced they would have to lay off people for the first time
in their whole history?
That was a shame.
Things are tough.
Volkswagen, remember, here's what happened, and this is a new government overreach.
Volkswagen was making those diesel cars that were killing people with asthma, right?
Yeah.
That would be okay now, by the way.
They should bring them back.
They should.
And it was going great.
And then they got found out, amazingly, by people at West Virginia University.
They got found out.
What do you mean by amazingly?
Let's pull that apart.
Well, because it's cold country, dude.
It's cold country.
And what was the result of that?
They had to go electric.
And what did they do when they went electric?
They came out with the ID4, which is not below of it, and that van thing, which I love and
unfortunately no one else does.
And so they went, they went electric because your government made them, and now they're
screwed again.
There's two in a row.
They got screwed.
Every door they open is, there's a brick wall behind it.
Try opening a window instead.
So now they have existing financial obligations.
Speaking of those and ID buzz, Forrest Autoravius, who we love, has an ID buzz, and did a great
kind of behind the scenes tour of the Scout, and there's a bunch of really cool interior
pictures.
What have I done a behind the scenes tour of the Scout?
Can't answer that.
All right.
Move on to the next one.
Forrest.
All right.
Tesla announced the other day that they have built their first cyber cab.
The first one's out of the production line yesterday.
Yeah.
How's it going?
How's cyber cab going?
You know, they built one.
They apparently are not going to start regular production for a few months.
So they built one.
So they built one.
And also they've been running a cyber taxi around Austin that's, I think, based on model
Y.
Yeah.
The cyber cab is a Model 3 window steering wheel and some changes.
Well, no beer doors.
Yeah, which is odd for a cab.
But nevertheless, their current taxi division has crashes that are four times the rate of
normal human drivers, which is tough.
But first off, four times the rate of normal human drivers in Austin or just in general?
Because in Austin, they'd be crashing into people.
Nationally.
Nationally.
Yeah.
Austin, they got a much higher.
But the other companies, Waymo, Zooks, some of the others?
Less.
Is Zooks a thing?
Yes.
People keep telling me about Zooks.
And I'm like, I only know.
What's the one that drives around with the blue Chinese vans here?
That would be Waymo.
What is Zeekr?
Zeekr is a company that makes those vans.
I don't understand what's going on.
We can tell.
Zooks may or may not be around.
All of these companies, except for Waymo, are on the verge of bankruptcy at literally
any moment.
And so that might change by the time you listen.
It might change by the time you listen.
48 hours from now.
I for one am excited for the Robo taxis for a lot of reasons.
Oh yeah.
Can you name two?
I think they're heinous and I want more of that.
Yep.
And it's going to revolutionize the taxi industry.
Dude, these are going to get into four times from the crash.
It's just these normal crashes.
Body shops are going to be thrilled.
It's going to be great.
There's going to be stories coming out of there.
You already think about taxi drivers as questionable drivers.
Right.
I was in one today.
It was like, wow.
Okay.
Yeah.
And now it's being driven by a robot that's four times more likely to crash.
Yeah.
It's tough for Tesla's tech on this.
Some of them, they're not all Tesla's fault.
Tesla reveals a lot less about the crashes than the other companies do.
But from what we can tell, they're not all Tesla's fault.
Right.
They're just bad luck.
It was just bad luck.
That tree shouldn't have been standing there.
Yes.
Yes.
They are mostly property damage related.
There were two that we know of where the cyber cab backed into something though.
That's good.
Or the cyber taxi backed into something.
Backing up is hard.
It happened because...
I don't know.
I don't have an answer.
Okay.
Fine.
I'm excited for these things.
Glad they took this many people to hand build one year.
I like the art and pictures.
There's art.
I love the guy holding the picture of I assume their child and that's interesting.
Okay.
Next one.
The child helped build it.
Audi TT.
So Audi recently announced in a little press thing that went out to everybody in the company
that they are going to continue to build the Concept C or the C Sport, which is their
EV TT replacement, based on the platform for the electric Cayman.
Now Porsche, of course, there's a lot of questions around if they're going to make
that at all.
And it seems like they're not going to.
But Audi has said, no, Viva makes this regardless.
Audi literally this week came out and said, regardless of what Porsche does, we're going
to do it, which kind of is an implication that Porsche ain't going to do it.
Right?
That's the kind of them saying, you know, we don't think there's going to be a Porsche,
but we're going to do it.
The exact quote was delivery of the platform by Porsche is not in question.
I do think that Audi has a lot more cover to build it.
First off, this is an electric car in my mind.
This is what electric car looks like.
Yes, agreed.
And also they can get away with it.
Nobody cares.
Yeah.
The TT doesn't have some long gas powered car history.
No, right.
There's not a dedicated group.
Well, there are for the earlier TTs, but it's not like it is for Porsche.
It's not a Porsche in general.
They don't.
They have a little bit more feel for it to do.
So they're doing it regardless.
So they're going to do it regardless.
Incredibly cool.
Yep.
It's going to come out allegedly in 2027.
So it looks cool.
Is this the coolest looking thing you've ever seen?
It's up there.
I bet an Italian designer.
No, maybe.
Maybe.
No, because it's the same.
Honestly, from the original designer.
This does look like something Johnny Iswood designed.
If I had to like put a designer to it.
Yeah, that's exactly right.
This is what the Ferrari should look like.
Look at Doug's Mac.
Yeah.
Look at that.
Yeah.
It's like simple, clean sheet, matte gray.
Huh.
It is an Italian.
For this?
Of course it is.
Of course it is.
I'm telling you.
Massimo Frascialla.
Let me tell you something.
The automakers know.
The smart automakers know.
If you want a car designed, you go to an Italian.
If you want a car built.
Let's go to a German.
Except for the original TT, which Peter Schraer.
Within warranty.
Yeah.
That's true.
Well, that's all you care about.
He was a German, right?
And now he's at Kia.
Right.
Imagine what Kia would be doing if they had hired an Italian.
Good question.
You know, get your resume ready.
They would have taken over the world.
They already have it.
Anyway, I'm pumped for this.
I am too.
Obviously not going to look like this in reality.
I mean, it's not that far off.
Well, I don't think.
You need bumpers.
There's a bumper.
The original TT is actually the car that proves you don't need bumpers.
Right.
It integrated them.
It was the first car to integrate.
It looks very cool.
It does retain the flares.
I think this thing is so cool.
I do think the biggest part of this news story, though, is the fact that Audi is kind of,
it's another tacit admission that Porsche is not building this car.
Them coming out and saying,
Oh, we're going to do it.
We're going to do it.
They're not going to do it.
Maybe.
Yeah.
Right.
Nobody thinks the Cayman and Byster are going electric.
Let me ask you this.
Not for a while.
If a gas one comes out, would you support them by buying it?
You're a Porsche man.
I didn't support them by buying a 718.
I know, but that gas cars weren't in jeopardy then.
Now they're in jeopardy.
Aren't you, don't you think it's time to step up and say, hey, we still want gas cars?
No, I'm good.
Yeah.
Because you like that government overreach.
Me and Kennan are going to, we're going to jointly buy a Boxster.
Hmm.
Congratulations.
Thanks.
I guess that's what I'm doing.
If they come out with the next generation one, because right now you can't buy a Boxer.
They will come out with another one.
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What do we get?
Yes, this Rolls Royce has done some weird stuff.
I love when Rolls Royce does a custom thing and they built this car.
This is called the Rolls Royce Phantom Arab arabesque.
Sure.
This was like, we're getting racist.
Like we're getting close.
Yeah, particularly because it was through Rolls Royce more recorded their private office
in Dubai.
Yeah.
So it's a little, but the big, the weird thing about it is the hood.
Now the hood they have done, they've 3D or they've etched this with lasers.
So they kind of took the idea.
I think it was Skravito is the Italian.
It doesn't seem notable to me.
I'll be honest.
I've seen a lot of like wood etched with lasers, seen a lot of like metal.
This isn't a higher life in life.
In life.
This is a car.
Dude, I've seen a lot of, I've seen a lot of electric lamps in my day.
Now they're coming out of electric cars.
Not notable.
They took a piece of metal and etch something into it.
Congratulations.
This is the Phantom Arabesque, which I think honestly is, it's questionable.
I've read it in there.
It's like, that's the kind of thing that a British person would say derisively in London
about a car they saw driving around.
That's Arabesque.
Yes.
I heard another Arabesque.
It is.
It's worth also the name of the style.
It's like an ornamental style, general.
Yes, but like.
Same with Italian.
You know what I mean?
But I agree that's also a little iffy.
The estimated cost of this thing is 800,000.
The whole car or just the hood?
You buy the hood and they throw in the car for free.
I love how it looks.
I think that's cool.
I don't know.
If we start seeing.
How do you clean it?
That is a wonderful question.
It's etched.
There's still metal underneath it.
But think about what that means though.
With a really small brush.
There's a lot of work.
It's a lot of work.
You think people that buy this are worried about it?
You could PPF it, but even then you're still cleaning the crevices.
You couldn't because there's a gap between the two parts of like what's
sunken in there is lower.
Yeah, you'd have to be really.
If we get water in there, it'd look like you're never going to get PPF with the fish.
It's like that.
It's just like a lot.
What?
You remember this?
There was this guy who did PPF.
I think it was AI.
Maybe it wasn't.
But he PPFed over like water and had to coys like in his car.
There's an Instagram video of this.
Are you thinking of the show where they pimped people's cars?
No, it seems like that.
Fish tank in the car.
This is a thing that made the rounds on Instagram.
I think it was AI.
But regardless, it traps stuff in there.
We are never going to see the Phantom arabesque because of this.
What a shame because I was hoping this would come to cars and coffee.
I was here in San Diego, especially for $800,000.
I don't see a lot of new Phantoms or new ghosts.
You know, that's a great point.
I never saw Phantoms.
I do see Coles.
Coles a lot.
Yeah, I see a lot of comments.
Saw Phantoms two days ago, pulling into a country club.
A Phantom eight?
No.
The new Phantom, whatever the current.
He does it.
It was an 04.
Yeah, it was an 04.
It was probably a convertible.
It was probably a Silver Shad.
It was a Silver Shad.
I do think that one thing that Rolls Royce should do instead of etching the hoods is come out
with a smaller SUV.
Yeah, they shouldn't actually do that.
No.
It would be a good name for that.
I don't know.
Their names are insane.
Why do you think they should do this?
Because the ghost was sold like 8X the Phantom.
It was a smaller sedan, but nobody wants sedans anymore.
They got an SUV that's doing pretty well.
Come out with a smaller SUV.
Like a ghost size.
The ghost is presumably the length of the SUV.
Smaller, it doesn't necessarily.
It's like a Range Rover Sport.
You're astonished that I've come up with this idea that nobody's ever thought of.
How about the Range Rover, the Range Rover Sport?
Do those two sell?
Do you think that the brand wants to move down market?
I think that when you...
What do you mean?
They did it with the ghost.
Ghost, yeah.
This has been done already.
And it was successful.
It was a cut metal.
It's not like the ghost was competing with the C-Class.
I didn't say I should have come out with a GLC.
I just said they come out with a smaller SUV.
Like a GLE size.
No, this is obvious.
The colon is a GLS size.
The colon, though, is $500,000.
The X7 is the base.
They're selling enough of them.
They have the X5 that exists for the base for this thing.
They should do this.
Come out with one for $350,000.
And then etch all the hoods.
Wasn't the ghost still based on the 7th Series?
Yeah, it is.
So, I would basically...
All right, please, Rolls-Royce,
come out with the 5 Series signs to Dan.
And then an X5 size SUV.
No, I didn't say that.
I didn't say that.
You're insane.
This is an insane thing.
I'm saying just do what they did with the ghost
in the SUV realm.
They really did.
They should come out with a larger SUV.
No, no, the colon in it is fancy and priced.
It's like crazy.
But it's size-wise is ghost size.
Well, okay.
I'm talking about down market a little.
Like the cut metal flying spur.
Do you remember when they had the R9?
Rolls-Royce loves the term.
Let's go down market a little.
Do you remember when they had the R9?
Do you remember when Bentley had the R9?
Yes.
And it was 300 grand.
And then they came out with the flying spur,
which was the same size, but 175 grand.
Do you remember this?
No, I don't care.
But sure.
I'm going to clue you on what happened.
It was the greatest success story in the history of Bentley.
Going back 100 years to when the Bentley boys
had cars with wheels bigger than the car itself.
Here's a fun fact.
The ghost is larger, longer than a colon.
All right, we're moving on.
Oh, man.
We have any more news?
No, that's the end of the news.
God, we got to move on to the talk car segment.
The talk car segment is brought to you
by Ryan Lopez Air Conditioning, which still doesn't work.
What?
I don't know.
Filippo, tell us about the pickup.
Yeah, the pickup, the F-250 that we inherited
got picked up by Dave, who I mentioned last week,
who's been phenomenal.
Filippo inherited a 70s F-250.
1972 and 1973.
Didn't run.
I thought it was never going to run.
It is currently running.
I got a video yesterday from Dave that says,
your truck is an absolute champ.
They flushed out the fuel tanks.
They got some fresh gas.
They unsucked the float, bowl, and the carb.
And it runs.
There's some things that still need to happen.
Inversion.
No.
But it runs.
It still has some needs.
Actually, Dave just texted me.
How old are the tires?
The tires are going to be a problem.
I used to look for new tires.
They're old.
They don't have date codes.
Well, when you say...
Yeah, when did date codes become...
Pre-exist date.
Pre-exist time itself.
They're older and they've been the sun.
The tires are two years old.
The date codes are the inside of it.
Yeah, 100%.
Yeah, absolutely.
Based on the amount of dry rot.
Yeah.
But they're not going to be a problem.
What's a couple of tires?
Yeah, it won't be a problem.
I just got to find them.
Okay.
But it's otherwise close to running.
Dave actually just texted me saying that it looks really great.
Needs a few things, but...
May I suggest a Resto mod?
No.
May I suggest an electric swap?
No.
May I suggest a...
It's going to look exactly the way it looks right now,
which is beautifully patinaed.
I cannot picture who that thing...
My wife and I...
My wife, who is a very meticulous person...
It does.
A little overlay.
Let me see it.
You don't see the truck?
I've sent you pictures of the truck.
Oh my God.
It's beautifully patinaed.
You're going to leave the American flag license plate on the front?
I've got to put a California plate.
Oh, of course.
The government's got to reach right in.
I run plates on my cars.
Reaching in Chris Gallipoli's hair.
The interior needs some help,
but my wife is very excited to get it all cleaned up,
and we'll replace it.
All cleaned up.
Drive it around?
Better known as re-upholstered.
Yeah.
What help?
There's like a seat cover that's been there since the 80s.
Why don't you put it in like a recliner?
Oh.
Like a lazy boy, like you sparkle out in terms of nutrition.
I don't think that that car is really made for that.
The front seat does move forward and back, thankfully.
Good.
Does it move forward and back when you want it to?
Yeah, yeah.
It's a great truck.
There's a drop on it.
Okay.
But it's like, it's going to...
I just, what are you going to do with this?
Drive it around.
It's going to be here.
I will drive to the office regularly, sure.
Like hell it's going to be inside of here.
That thing parks outside.
No, that's what you're talking about.
I parked my cars outside as is.
Period.
I'm pumped.
It's going to live on my street.
My neighbors might be annoyed by it, but it looks cool.
What do your neighbors has a super duty?
One of my neighbors sometimes has a duly lifted F2...
And I was at your house today.
Everybody parks along.
It's a cul-de-sac.
Everybody parks along the sidewalk.
He just parks perpendicular to it.
I was at your house the other day.
A couple of your neighbors, one of your neighbors says Florida plates.
And so they'll, they'll be okay with your truck too.
So you got two?
They will.
Yeah.
Well, I'm pumped, Flippo.
And I can't wait...
I'm excited.
When is this coming here?
I don't know, but I got to call Dave after this.
Shout out to Dave, who's been legitimately awesome.
Do we have an Instagram handle for Dave or anything?
Do we have a name and Dave?
Iconic automotive and Prescott.
Yup.
Shout out to Dave, who's been legitimately awesome.
I'm excited.
I'm legitimately like, I'm glad that it's running.
It needs some timing to be set.
It needs some things, but...
It needs some timing.
Well, you got it again?
Yeah, I know.
But that's pretty easy, apparently.
Dave's got this iconic automotive over there and Prescott.
Folks, if you're in Prescott, this is on Commerce Drive.
Yup.
And over in Prescott.
If you're out there, go check on Flippo's truck.
For God's sake.
Okay, let's move on.
But I'm excited.
Buy Dave a hot dog.
Hot dog.
From that place down in Phoenix.
I want to talk about, since we're talking about Ford trucks,
I'd like to talk about the Hennessey Ranger.
Can you pull out the Hennessey Ranger?
We sold it this week.
Did you see this?
No.
Okay.
Type in Ranger.
I've been out of the office this week.
This truck exists.
The first gen US Ranger.
Yeah, so a little known fact about Doug,
I love the first gen Ranger.
And by first gen, I mean 2018.
But like, it was gone for a bit.
It was gone for like 15 years.
I didn't know that.
I always loved it because it's got a great powertrain.
Hennessey did a Hennessey of it.
You can get, they didn't do a Raptor, this Ranger.
Hennessey did it.
This has 370 horsepower.
That's way too much power.
And 450 pound feet.
That's way too much power.
This is like exactly what I've always wanted in life.
I don't want those wheels, which, who, who, who.
Those wheels are like governmental.
Hennessey wheels.
Come and take it.
Hennessey apparently makes fake beadlock wheels.
Dude, fake beadlock.
This is every single off-road vehicle right now.
You're not going to fault Hennessey for this.
I am obsessed with this truck.
I didn't know it existed.
I thought Hennessey was only concerned himself with the big stuff,
like the Raptors.
I want one of these.
This is exactly the truck I want.
The right size, the right power.
It's sold for 38 Gs.
Kenan, should we buy one of these?
I don't know.
I'm, evidently, I'm getting a new Cayman when it comes out.
You've got Boxster.
You've got to buy them used though, because they,
now there's a Raptor of this range.
For 38 that is.
The next gen.
That's pretty cool for 30.
I really want this.
I had no idea this truck existed.
Did you know it existed?
No.
Oh.
That's very cool.
Can I share some of the cars that Hennessey.
I could have been driving around on a Ranger Velossa Raptor.
I love this truck.
We've apparently auctioned 45 Hennessey vehicles.
Oh.
They include that Ranger, a Corvette, a Challenger,
a Camaro, a Vada 150.
They do everything.
But you know what they don't do anymore?
A TRX?
Organize it by year.
Can we do it by year?
Do the lowest mileage.
Okay.
That'll work.
You know what they don't do anymore?
Guess what is the common denominator of all of the recent cars?
They're no longer the Ford certified people, right?
They only do Ford.
They only do Ford now.
They only do Ford.
I thought they stopped that partnership.
From 21.
Yeah.
There's a Chevy.
Chevy.
But look at all the new cars.
They're basically all Ford.
Ford, GM's.
They told me when I went there that the newer Chrysler and GM cars are mainly locked out
for them electronically.
Interesting.
And so they primarily are doing Ford.
We do have a Lincoln Navigator, Hennessy there.
And a Dodge Durango SRT Hellcat Hennessy HPE 1000.
Yeah.
There's clearly a few of the newer GM's and stuff, but not anything, not like brand new
and very few of them.
It's almost all Fords.
Hey, how much horsepower do you think the Hennessy HPE 1000 Durango makes?
That'd be correct.
813.
Wow.
1000 is relative.
It might be new meters.
We don't know.
Dude, I want that Ranger Raptor, Velociraptor so bad.
I had no idea that existed.
That's very cool.
It's so cool.
You don't think this is cool?
That's cool.
Let's pick one up together.
I'm good.
Okay.
Wouldn't you rather have this than that Ford truck you're getting?
Filippo.
I'm excited about the truck.
This is airbags.
Well, I'm worried about driving the truck around.
My wife and I have had a lot of conversations about what will feel reasonably safe and what
won't.
Can I ask you a question?
And I mean this with all the sincerity in my heart.
And I want a sincere answer because I'm asking it gently.
Are you going to drive it around with a piece of straw in your mouth dangling from?
Every time I leave my house, I'm going to pick up a piece of grass, a long grass from
my yard, which is desert landscapes.
I'll be hard.
We'll see what I can do.
I've driven your cars on a number of occasions and every time I've gotten into it, there's
grass in it and it's tuned to country.
You're almost there.
Nothing wrong with that.
You're almost there.
That's right.
There's nothing wrong with that.
I ain't saying there is.
I love a little country.
I was listening to the other data, Sirius XN.
This is car related.
And the country stations are up in the 50s.
They're so hard to get to.
They screw you.
It's really annoying.
You've got to go through blues.
Come on.
Inexplicably, in the 9-11, Sirius XN is enabled for another month for some reason.
They learn who has a vehicle that's transacted and they re-enable it.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
And so I've been listening to it.
Country is so hard to get to.
It's so...
My Mercedes I got in a letter from XM when I bought it because it has Sirius XN.
Did you put in?
Did you let it happen?
I decided not.
It's good stuff, dude.
Are you in the grandeur?
I love watercolors.
I love watercolors.
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Okay, Kenan, you are doing SL65 things speaking up.
Yes, I've got a bunch of videos that are coming up relatively soon.
Kenan Rolls on YouTube channel.
That's right.
It's just my name, K-E-N-N-A-N.
I'll pop up.
Go over to the Kenan YouTube channel and watch the videos.
Thank you.
Yes, this week I have one coming out of car spotting.
My friend Kevin and I took a car spotting in Mahoya,
which really used all 604 horsepower to do 10 miles per hour.
What did I discover, by the way?
738 pound-feet of torque.
Do you know why?
Because it's twice the 395.
It's 1,000 newton-meters.
Of course.
I went down a Q7 V12 rabbit hole,
and it also has 738 pound-feet of torque,
and I was like, what a coincidence.
1,000 newton-meters.
It makes sense.
It's a lot.
But I've got that coming.
Nick and I are going to go drag racing soon
to see who's faster in SLR or SL65.
What if he's not?
He won't.
I am so afraid.
I'm so worried because Nick is so competitive.
He's going to fit.
He's just going to get really aggressive with it.
You know, I've had a great experience.
It doesn't even matter which is faster.
I've had a great experience with this car.
Right.
Exactly.
He's not going to be concerned that his cost
10 times as much as mine does.
And SLR is coming soon to cars and beds.
Don't worry.
I've been trying to get him out of it.
And then he and I are going to switch cars
to drive a little bit because I'm very curious
what the SLR is like.
He's very curious what the 65 is like.
They're very, very different cars.
So we've got some good stuff coming.
They are.
Vone's got V12.
V12.
I hate to say it honestly.
I have driven both of them.
Have you driven his?
I have not yet driven his SLR.
I've driven both.
I've driven both.
The SLR feels a lot more special.
Your car is amazing.
It's super cool.
Of course.
But the SLR, everything is bespoke.
Well, not everything.
Well, like the doors go up in this crazy way.
And the controls for all this stuff is just bizarre.
Well, you've got door controls on the bottom.
And the door handle is mounted in the door sill.
I have that.
Yeah, but his is under a thing.
His is under a cage, for some reason.
That's different.
Mine's uncaged.
I think the SLR is so cool.
Oh, no.
Look, I agree.
And I'm mostly curious to see how much more athletic it feels,
because that's what I would imagine the SLR for.
The reason they gave it a super charged fee,
it was more immediate in its acceleration.
The SL65 just goes, and then you're off.
But you do have some light.
It does feel like a little bit.
But nonetheless, for 10 times the cost thing,
I'm curious about what it feels like.
Not what they cost new, but what they cost now.
So I'm excited to play with that car.
And then I've got a couple of things to go.
I let a bunch of my friends drive.
Not you, because you're going to do a video on it eventually,
and you weren't around.
Unbelievable.
I let a bunch of my friends drive the SL65.
Some car people, some not.
Did anybody crash?
You'll have to watch to find that.
But this is all leading up to what?
It's all leading up to I have decided
that I am going to be selling the car.
The thing with the SL65 is I love the motor.
The engine is a masterpiece.
But the rest of the car is very good.
It's just compared to my other car,
which is very refined and I use every day.
It's not enough of a contrasting experience.
Yeah, it's also in a very refined.
A very refined, easy to use car.
But the thing with the SL65 is the M275 V12 is a masterpiece.
And when you get on the highway, it's incredible.
But it gets to legal speeds really fast
and to enjoy it, you have to go very quickly with it.
And make a suggestion if you want a different experience.
On the cars and bids there.
SLC3.
We have a Lincoln Continental 1960.
I don't think it's live yet,
but it will be when this is up that the Queen wrote in.
What?
Wow.
So anyway,
I am a reconsidering like replacements for the car,
but I'm going to take my time and see what comes up.
But I have loved the experience with it.
It'll be, it'll go sometime in March, I think,
because when we're probably going to sell out,
I've had pictures taken already and stuff.
But it is, I love the car.
It's just like, it's just,
I want something more fuzzy and fizzy.
And we were talking with Ryan Lopez today about like S2000.
Something that's like really engaging,
which the SL65 just is not its nature.
Make a recommendation.
We have an Arsimoto Deliverator live right now.
Please pull that up for me.
Deliverator.
Do you know what this was before?
No.
All right.
It's a Deliverator.
Well, that is more visceral.
So we have,
It's got three wheels.
We have sold these
That's different.
In open passenger configuration form before,
and apparently there's a delivery version.
Wow, there's a wagon.
That they called the Deliverator.
I want to talk, since we're talking cars,
I do want to talk about the Q7 V12 TDI Breaker.
Yeah, please do.
You know about this car?
Of course.
Can you pull up a picture?
We've never sold one.
The Audi Q7.
They're not legal here yet, right?
What's that?
They're not legal here yet.
Well, no.
Sort of.
Sort of.
I'm going to explain that.
V12 TDI.
Yeah, yeah.
I know of this car.
So here's what happened.
Audi came out with this car,
and if you look at any of the pictures,
you know how you tell it apart.
It's got a massive front end.
Yeah.
This has been heavily enlarged.
Yeah.
Like to almost comical degree,
that the press photo,
it doesn't seem quite as comical,
but I'm telling you,
I was looking at like it's big.
It's like silly, right?
Well, it turns out,
this is dead.
I'm dead serious.
It turns out that they offered this exterior package
called V12 OPTIQ
for all the diesel Q7.
Really?
Really?
So you can get the look
like exactly the same
with V12 OPTIQ.
Really?
So it's on mobile.de.
Sure.
A competitive site.
I don't know if they're competitive.
Nope.
Okay, they're in Europe.
They're good.
They're good.
You're a good mobile.de.
I was on mobile.de
and I typed in Q7 V12.
Well, 12 cars come up, or 18.
12 of them, of the 18,
are six cylinders,
and V12 comes up in the search string
because it has the V12 OPTIQ body kit.
But here's the thing.
They're all debadged.
Even the V12,
the Europeans debadge mostly.
And so there's no way to know.
Wow, that is fascinating.
The greatest diesel car of all time.
Yeah.
It's up there for sure.
I can't believe they did a V12 diesel.
That is just insane.
There was a thought in this period
that diesel was going to be the future.
And if you were going to be into performance cars,
you had to figure out how to make diesel.
So there was like a BMW 330D
and a 335D.
Oh yeah, at least their 5D is awesome.
And there was this,
and remember they did like the M550D
and the X5 M50D.
There were Chris Harris's video
on that many years ago.
And diesel cars ran at Le Mans.
And then they started killing people with asthma.
So that had to stop.
Can I just say the regular, like,
S-line package looks pretty similar.
No, this opening,
I'm going to tell you something.
I saw one of these.
Look up the ones we sold.
I saw one of these on the streets of Prague.
Just queues out.
It was the greatest day of my life.
I won a 4-1.
You saw one?
I saw one I owned.
Probably it's an optical.
It's delightful.
No, it had to be a 12TDI version of that.
Although that's what I would do if I had an OPTIQ.
Rip that off.
This one's 10 maybe.
Go to the 2014 one that didn't tell.
No dude, this is, it's not even close.
I mean like, no, I'm telling you,
it's not even close.
Go back, look, look at this.
No, I know it's quite larger,
but they just broke it up.
Listen, I'm going to just put it this way.
Me and Kenan who understand automotive subtleties,
this isn't similar.
To you, I get it.
Now, do you want to import one of these?
No.
A little?
No.
Not even a little.
It's a diesel.
You like this stuff.
I don't need more power for diesel.
V12 diesel.
This might be one car we can actually all agree on.
I like V12s.
You like diesels.
You've had an Audi RS2.
I would get one of these.
It terrifies me.
They have some miles on them.
Yeah.
There are 200,000 miles.
No, they're a lot.
I don't think they're that problematic.
This is very, some other YouTuber mentioned this car recently.
This is so cool.
Oh, cool.
I think about them all the time.
Yes, I saw one randomly in Prague and it changed my life.
I literally freaked out.
Like, I had just seen an XJ220.
I would have 100%
Yeah, never do.
I can't believe it happened.
Okay, we have any more talk cars?
Yes, I'm not going to be here next week.
I was gone last week because I was skiing with my dad in Wyoming.
Wyoming.
I will be at Moda Miami this upcoming week, which I'm very excited about.
I've gone to Amelia Island every year for the last nine years.
And this time I want to try something different.
So my friends and I are going to Moda, which will be very interesting.
So if you see me around, come up and say hello.
Come up and say hi to Ken and ask him about his SL65.
Yep.
You're welcome to ask me about that or any other car for that matter.
What about the Q7 V12 TDM?
Yeah, a lot of thoughts about that.
I would absolutely.
That's a serious car or the V12 OPTIQ packages.
OPTIQ with a K, by the way.
I would expect that.
Like the Cadillac.
But that's with a Q.
Oh yeah.
Yes, I'm excited.
I'm doing a car spotting video.
I'm going to go out in a Rolls-Royce Corniche with my friend Gail.
It's a friend of mine, Daniel, who has a bunch of cool cars.
He's the guy who bought that.
Do you remember the Diablo that fell off the truck?
Yeah.
He owns that car.
He bought it post for pre.
Post, I believe.
But it's been under a huge restoration and all those things.
So he's listening.
So it's him.
I owe him in old fashion when I see him.
You know that happened in Iowa?
Yeah.
Or Nebraska?
Something like that.
Like what do you do?
You're in Iowa and your Diablo's not put it back on the truck.
Well, they came over.
There were pictures of it.
Like they had to get a fourth lift to go then lift it back up.
Even then, they had one of those though.
So that's good.
Yeah, it is.
Well, I'm excited for you.
Thank you.
What do you think you'll see?
Good cars.
I'll probably see John Tamarian, I'd imagine.
I'll see.
The real guy or a Lamborghini to John Tamarian?
Both.
Yeah.
Both.
If I can get a picture of him with it, it'd be like getting
Balboni with a Balboni edition.
I really want that picture.
Get all four of them together.
Tamarian is with a Tamarian and Balboni is with a Balboni.
Perfect.
Yeah, I'm excited to go a new show.
It'll be really fun.
And I've actually never been to Miami.
I've never like hung out with Miami.
Well, it's great.
And there's a lot of crazy cars.
Yeah.
You can throw something cool.
You should see Miami Truro.
Well, the Cornish is pretty good.
We did look around at Truro.
There's some interesting stuff.
We have an X7 from most of the guys.
Because I'm going with like eight people.
Oh, you need a big?
Yeah.
You need a big good car?
May I make a suggestion?
Well, if that don't hurt the screen.
Oh, my God.
Oh, that's terrifying.
Aren't screens like cheap now?
I haven't bought a TV in like 30 years.
Yeah.
30 years.
You're still what you used to be.
Don't watch TV.
Huge box.
All right.
We got to move on to the market report.
The market report is brought to you by cars and bids.
Folks, it's not just the cars.
It's the bids.
It's the bid.
And the ampersand.
That's what makes it so special.
Ampersand.
Can you pull up this Jeff Koons 8 series?
We did a great video on the question about it.
I want to talk about this for a second.
I love this thing.
I've seen it.
I've seen it in person.
I love it and he's seen it.
And that's all he's willing to say.
I have also seen it in person.
I think it's cool.
You don't like it?
I don't have a strong feeling about it.
Really?
Jeff Koons?
This doesn't give you strong feelings of any kind.
No.
It's belongs to the mechanic collection.
They have an unbelievable collection of cars.
This is definitely the most colorful.
This is so cool.
Jeff Koons.
BMW has an art car tradition.
No, no.
I'm into it.
What are you into?
What excites you?
You don't get excited by it.
What car?
Twingos.
The multiply.
I'm really sad that I didn't talk more about the multiply.
I'm sad that you bought the 997.
I think the 997 is another example of you trying to buy a car that people like.
I love the 997.
I love my car.
You like the weird stuff.
I love my car.
What would you get if less unfettered?
We already had a multiply.
I don't feel like I haven't been feathered.
I buy the things I want.
You texted me the other day.
You were like, hey, why don't you own a sob?
Yeah.
That's a good question.
My friend and I, Kevin, we were going through Facebook, Marketplace, we were selling some
cool sobs.
I could really stick it to sob.
Why don't you have a 9000 arrow?
Because I've always been more of a 900 kind of guy.
Yeah, but the 9000 arrow, that was the dream sob.
A 900 SPG would be cool.
The 9000 arrow was the E39 and 5 at the sob world.
Do I own an E39 and 5?
Well, but we all agree that it's an amazing car.
It's a God.
I should own a sob and 100.
I literally love my 997 and this is cool.
And I'm excited to watch the video.
I haven't yet, but on the Cars and Bids channel.
There's a video about it on the Cars and Bids channel and it's a very good video about
what I consider to be a very special car and it's got a Spider-Man interior, which you
will never have.
That is so true.
Oh, I forgot about this.
It's not just Spider-Man.
The seats are Spider-Man, but other panels are different colors.
Other panels are brown.
I legit think it's cool.
I would love to have one.
It's very expensive.
I would get one if it were affordable.
Very.
And I would drive it.
A market report, I want to discuss the 599.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You see this 599 sale?
Yep.
We've been talking on this pod and I don't think we've actually talked in the pod about
it.
Thank God we've kept it under wraps.
The 599s are bargains.
They've been selling for 120 grand.
Yep.
Well, that's over.
Yep.
How many miles around this one?
I think it was a lot.
This was a modified car with 30,000 miles, so you would expect this to be kind of at
the lower end.
It actually got a lot of bidding and it sold for 152,000, which makes me nervous.
I was thinking 599s would sit at 120 forever and I could just pick one up willy-nilly.
Totally.
It makes the one I drove in New Orleans belonging to Chris Carbine.
This car at 111, even with a salvage title, I figured that was kind of bottom of the
market.
It's clear that there's a trend that is going this way, even with ones with manual conversions.
Days with cheap 599s might be over.
What are you going to do?
You're getting squeezed here.
I've never had an interest in a 599.
He's getting squeezed.
I do think 599s have been way too cheap for way too long and I'm not surprised the price
is coming up.
Ultimately, this car offers, it's beautiful.
It offers incredible power and performance.
Enzo V12.
Every 599 owner will tell you.
Enzo V12, although every V12 Ferrari, since the Enzo, with the exception of the 575 and
612, all had a different motor than the 599.
I don't know that.
There were two 6-liter V12 Ferraris made at the same time with different 6-liter V12s.
Why?
It's like when Ford had a 3-liter pushrod V6 and a 3-liter dual overhead cam V6.
Really different V12s, chain driven versus belts.
I mean, it was a whole thing.
Are 612s next?
Yeah.
No, 4-seater 4R is never going to go up.
They're really easy to change though, because the engine doesn't come out for them.
They're right there on the front.
It's pretty easy to do.
So like I could do it.
You and me could do it long weekend.
Legitimately, you and I could.
With one of those tensioner tools?
Yeah, I've got one.
We could do that.
Boom.
Buy a 612 and do it.
I want a 612.
Pull up 612.
I love 612s.
I've been thinking more and more about 612s.
You say value less.
No, they're quite values.
How unreliable is this car really?
Where is this going to come back to me?
Suspension probably.
The transmissions are serviceable on these cars.
I would do a stick swap.
Well, even better.
I don't know where it really hurts you.
It's just as long as you're okay with the way it looks, which I personally am.
I think they're very elegant cars.
It's pretty cool.
Yeah.
And they're comfortable.
You can fit actual people in them.
Yeah, look at that.
That's just, that's long.
Why don't I have this car for 80?
I know.
On this 993, it costs four times as much.
Honestly, it's a good question.
This is what I want.
This is two times the Sony.
Can I sit this in my garage?
Probably.
That's the, no, we measured it for yours once out of curiosity.
It was like a foot too long.
My garage was readily short.
But I got problems too because my desk is there and I got that couch there for some reason.
There's a couch in my garage.
I think it must fit, right?
I think it could fit.
We got to figure that out.
Let me ask you something.
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You want to talk about Farah's vanquish?
Yeah, so Farah is selling a vanquish with us, which I think is not his vanquish to be clear.
His dad had one that Ralph Lauren gave to his dad and then he did the vanquish.
It's not that one, it's one for one of his clients.
And I think there's also one here in the office.
I think it is one of the most beautiful cars of all time.
So it was like hit and rebuilt or something?
Something along those lines.
I'm not exactly sure.
What is this color?
It's a Ferrari color.
It's a Ferrari color, but it's great.
It's Grigio, what is it?
Tanadi Fuji.
Grigio, thank you for leaving.
It's a local Italian gatekeeping speaker.
This car is so beautiful.
With a couple of upgrades, this car could be brand new.
The tail lights are halogens.
Nobody does door handles that look like that anymore.
But with a few upgrades on the outside, this car is so...
And the inside.
If you send it back to Aston, actually...
I would do a lot of changes to the inside.
They do update the center console and stuff like that.
But the exterior is just...
Despite the back of your hand, beautiful.
Look at that.
That line on the door is such a risky line and it works so well.
Yeah, they really executed it well.
Johnny Ives, if you want to execute a lot of work.
You want to know how to design a car?
This is how it's done.
A similar bell line.
No Italian involved with this car, even though I truly think it's...
No, this is Ian Calland at this car.
That's a really risky line because that line can go real bad.
You're doing a vertical line in the middle of the back of the car.
But what it did was it created this crazy rear shoulder that works beautifully.
Yep, couldn't agree.
And just ludicrously expensive.
The vanquish was the last handmade Aston Martin before they switched away from that.
But it does give that...
My friend Jeff's dad had one of these and when paint corrected it for him,
he came back from a day of surgery and looked at it and he goes,
I'm like, God, this looks wider.
It does look very wider.
I truly think still to this day one of the most beautiful cars.
I really, really believe that.
It's funny because all the Aston's from this era looked the same.
And this car looks the same as the other ones,
but there are these subtle changes.
The long sloping front, the vantage doesn't have that.
And the big wide thing in the back is physically a wider car.
And it's a long...
Either way, it just pinches toward the front.
It's just...
You know what Kenan doesn't like?
I like the fog lights.
I like them.
He likes them.
No problem.
I will say it's fundamentally an interesting car, right?
This car is live with no reserve.
No reserve.
It had an accident that resulted in a salvage idle when it had 3,700 miles.
So it's been rebuilt.
It has a clean title now, but it's been rebuilt.
And driven 25,000 miles since.
Yeah, it's probably good.
And also credit to Matt Farah of the Smoking Tire
and a West Side Clutch or Car Storage
for taking some great photos including hundreds of pages of service records.
This interior, keep going, it's really orange.
And it looks amazing.
It looks like that Volvo orange.
Yeah, not quite out of comma, but close.
In that, in those pictures it doesn't, but look at it in this.
Yeah.
It's orange on the, this screen is messed up.
Probably people have been hit.
Maybe, yeah, maybe.
Chess not doing that.
Very subtle detail you can see in something.
It's like the paddles also have a little bit of leather.
It's on the same color.
You can see it right there.
Same color.
Sable or Chess not instead of the other one.
Okay, we got to move on to the questions, which were fantastic.
This had to go deep, but I found some great ones.
The questions are brought to you by Filippo and his shirt.
It looks like he got run over.
Put it on.
Yeah.
Tire track sweater.
Winter tire tracks.
Yeah.
Filippo's tire track sweater, of course, is brought to us by Michelin.
Are they our sponsor?
Not yet.
Anyway, here's the deal.
If you want to ask us questions, you go to the community tab, right?
And there's a thing there that says cars and bids questions.
And you go in there and you ask us questions.
Yep.
And they were good this week.
And I'm going to read them to you now.
First question from the VN owner.
What's the most trouble you've ever gotten into with a dealer or a press car
provider or a vehicle owner?
I rarely get in any trouble and I wasn't going to put this question in
because I almost never have any drama or issues.
But I have a story that I want to tell and I'm going to leave out the
automaker for Filippo's benefit.
Do I know?
Filippo wants me to tell with the automaker, but I'm going to leave out the
automaker so that Filippo doesn't get mad at me for something.
They'll never stop me.
Six, eight months ago.
Maybe it's two years.
I don't know.
I review a car from a dealership, not the automaker.
I almost always now get him from the automaker review from the dealership.
And the automaker and the video goes up.
It's very praising of the car.
Cars great.
Still think the car is great.
Very praising car.
The video goes up and the automaker contacts the dealer and they said this
video has to come down.
He didn't get the car through us and you have to tell him to take the video down.
And so the dealer calls me and they said, hey, the company told us you got to take
the video down.
And I said, fine, no problem.
I'll take the video down.
Only one condition.
The automaker has to call me.
I'm going to call me direct.
I want to hear it from their mouth that they're telling a journalist to take down content.
And they didn't.
And the video stayed.
But I wanted them to so bad because I knew if I got a call from a car company saying,
yo, you got to take a video down, the video that I would then make about such and such
automaker told me to remove my video would be so much better than the original video ever
could have been, but they wouldn't do it.
And I was sitting there looking at my phone that week that come on, come on.
But they never called.
And then eventually the dealer called and they're like, yeah, they're just going to
drop it.
And I was like, yeah, I kind of figured they might.
Too bad.
That's actually happened a few times, believe it or not.
Do believe it.
And when I was early in this, I'd be like, oh, God, I'm so sorry.
I'll take down the video.
And now every time I respond to the same, have them call me.
And the answer is never that the video comes down because I just want to have that conversation.
Don't you want to hear that?
Do you want to hear an automaker?
And I think they know that they can.
Let's do it.
Let's really do it.
And he would all worked out.
Next question.
Do you remember this?
I don't know.
Next question from Yellow Wolf.
If you could only drive one country's cars for the rest of your life, which country would
you choose?
Kenan.
German has only ever driven one country.
Germany owned a Ferrari.
Kenan is living this.
He's currently living this.
So am I.
I know you're a German.
Outside of the Ford.
Thankfully.
America.
Wow.
Really?
Career GT.
Really?
Life would be cheaper.
You own one American car.
You only ever owned two or three.
Oh my God.
I've only ever owned two.
Give me a break.
The 2001 Ford Explorer Sport.
2004 Cadillac CTS-V.
2011 Cadillac CTS-V.
1995 AM General Hummer.
1997 Dodge Viper GTS.
2005 Ford GT.
2005 Ford GT.
And.
2024 Toyota Sequoia.
The Car Built in Texas by non-union labor and the only people who are driving it are
hardcore Republicans.
It's going to be sold in Japan soon.
Really?
No way.
I think Germany is kind of the most breath of options.
Yeah.
What about Italy?
Germany is kind of the most breath of options.
You don't think Italy is possible here?
Italy's car industry has collapsed.
Not for cars sold in the U.S.
No, that's not what it's asked.
That's not how I'm reading it though.
Japan would also be a great option.
You could have a Toyota GT1.
I hadn't considered it.
Everybody's like, seal K GTR, seal K GTR.
You know what the Toyota GT1 didn't do?
It didn't fly.
Stay on the ground.
Germany is Japan.
I've got a Porsche GT1.
Man, I can't talk you into America or Italy.
You could talk into America probably.
Not Italy.
Italy was talking to a bull until about eight years ago.
And then the Italian, like regular, exactly, regular Italian cars took a dive.
That wasn't always true.
Like even in the mid-2000s, a 159, a 156, there were goods in the cars.
The multiple.
Yeah, but then things changed.
Like 2012, 2003.
The recession was tough.
Yeah, it never really killed Italy.
Italy's cars are now a disaster.
Like it's a rebadged Chrysler 300.
And even the small hatchbacks are kind of gone.
Yeah.
Sad.
What a shame.
The panda is back though.
Evie, but back.
The what?
The panda is back.
Yeah, that's true.
Okay, next question from NSoch24.
You spend time on East and West Coast,
but you take a long drive every year back and forth.
What is your favorite state in the middle,
and where do you like to stop along the way?
We got the favorite state in the middle question the other day.
I think I said Arkansas or Tennessee.
You still love them.
But where do I like to stop along the way?
Folks, I'm going to tell you a little story here that Flippo knows.
I'm going to tell you the story about one of the places I stop.
You do.
Yep.
In Memphis, Tennessee, which is a great city,
that opinion is not shared by most people.
In Memphis, Tennessee, there is a hotel.
Okay.
And it's in a pyramid.
And the pyramid used to be a basketball stadium.
And it's currently...
But it's now the world's largest bass pro...
Can't make this up.
It's the world's largest bass pro shops.
And this pyramid is like a beacon over the world.
And it's right on the other side of the Mississippi River.
And when you're driving in from Arkansas,
you're like, oh, thank God, I'm in Tennessee.
And you see the pyramid, and it reminds you,
I like the true pyramids of Giza, the Memphis.
And so there is one called that.
So anyway, it was a basketball stadium.
Now it's a bass pro shop.
But there's a hotel in this bass pro...
It's such a big bass pro shop as a hotel.
They're thinking you might want to spend so much money
at the bass pro shop.
You might need to stay over.
I stay there every year.
I have stayed there for years in a row now, one night every year.
And the best part is the...
You can choose.
Click on that picture.
You can choose your hotel room.
If you want it to be outside, looking at the city of Memphis,
no, thank you, or inside, looking over the bass pro shops.
And so every year, me and Noodle, we sit on...
The hotel rooms are actually log cabins.
No, this is false.
The hotel rooms are log cabin.
You can kind of see them in the background over here.
And me and Noodle sit on our log cabin patio.
They have screened porches, even though they are inside a building.
And yeah, there they are.
And we sit on our log cabin and patio,
and we look out over the bass pro shops.
Now, to my great...
I didn't know there were boats.
Water feature inside.
I must not have that view.
There are six restaurants.
Yeah, there are a lot of restaurants.
Now, to my great sadness, I drive so far.
That day, I'm usually coming from Albuquerque.
I drive so far that I've never been able to be there
when the bass pro shops is open.
And I leave before it opens in the morning.
So I've never actually seen the hustle and bustle
that can come from this bass pro shops.
But I am very impressed.
They've got underwater bowling.
Because they do offer bowling at the pyramid.
I'm told there's alligators in there.
I just have no idea.
The first time I did this is five, six years ago.
I've been staying in this hotel for years.
The first time I did it, I was so excited.
The alligators.
And so I go out on my screened porch
in my log cabin with Noodle.
And I'm so excited.
And I open the door in the screened porch.
And I hear the sound of those floor buffer machines.
Because they closed.
And that sound went on all night, by the way.
I wasn't even able to have my door open
to hear the sweet sounds of...
Couldn't have the AC from the bass pro shop.
Get back the AC of your hotel room.
Tragic.
That's actually a great idea.
This is a rare opportunity when you can leave the door open.
You don't have to turn on the AC yourself.
And they'll AC you.
There you go.
Sadly, don't play like crickets or something
sound at night.
For us hotel guests.
Yeah, because there are a lot of people out there.
They're on the porch by the way.
How do they not have a water park?
That's my surprise.
Well, it's in a pyramid.
It's a limited amount of space.
They're not stars.
It's a real thing.
The problem is when you show up to this hotel
really late at night, there's only a...
The front desk is open.
And then you go into an elevator.
Like, the whole floor is closed.
Like, I've never even been on the floor.
I've just looked at it from my perch.
Anyway, that's my favorite experience
as I drive across country every year.
Okay.
This is hard to beat that.
This next question is going to be rapid fire.
From EVs and clutch pedals.
For all three of us, it's going to be rapid fire.
Okay.
We know that you guys love cars, et cetera.
Rank your level of interest.
I want to...
Zero to ten ranking in the following vehicles.
Boats.
Zero.
Zero.
Four.
Oh, nice.
Trains.
Zero.
Oh, like eight.
Two.
Okay.
Airplanes.
Zero.
Eight.
Two.
Oh, really?
Really?
You're really into planes?
Oh, yeah.
I mean, I...
Yeah, I keep track of everything I find.
I love planes.
Really?
I mean, it's almost always one of two planes.
It's like a bus in the sun.
It's going to be a pretty repetitive.
Do you keep track of the buses?
You've been on the 747?
That's a great...
It's a quite an experience.
I did ride one of those planes.
A lot of 737s.
I did ride on one of those planes that has...
Depends on...
Depends on which version.
I remember one of those planes that has two stories.
Yeah, it was an A380.
How does that work?
They got two stories on them.
I know.
It's cool.
Does it bother you that we didn't have flight figured out until 100 years ago and now planes
have two stories?
That's progress.
Okay, rockets.
Zero.
Yeah, pretty low.
I have four.
Oh, wow.
Four is loading.
One.
You really don't care about space.
You don't care about anything.
Fine, zero for rockets.
What did you say was high?
Boats I gave a four.
Okay.
They're interesting.
I like airplanes.
You both gave two in rockets.
You gave one.
Airplanes, I'll go up to three.
I would bring up boats, actually.
Sailboats are really cool.
That was cool.
And there's a cool boat called Beniro.
And by the way, I want to be clear.
I love trains as a mode of transportation.
You're just interested in them.
I don't care about...
I'm a talent enthusiast, so I do like trains.
Next question.
Farm vehicles like tractors and combines.
Zero.
Yeah, like a three.
Five.
Five, really?
That's the most he said.
They make America work, okay?
He lives in Wisconsin.
Construction vehicles, which actually make America work.
Like excavators and bulldozers.
Zero.
Five, two.
Okay, the farmers are going to complain about that.
Four.
Four.
The farmers are out there working the fields.
Five.
But they listen to the podcast.
That's true.
Class six road vehicles like school buses and 18-wheelers.
Zero.
Zero.
Six.
His numbers are so noncommittal too.
It's everything like three and six is where they all land.
Hey, what's cars for you?
Zero.
Six.
No, no.
Eight.
Nine.
Bicycles.
All right, motorcycles.
Zero.
Like a two.
Six.
I think it's like a five.
Micromobility vehicles like bikes, scooters, one-wheeler,
skateboards, e-scooters, that kind of thing.
Zero.
Two.
Eight.
Oh, yeah?
Can you name a lot of scooter brands?
From, like, it's actually a sharp, yeah, Joe.
Make scooters.
I find the micromobility space to be very interesting.
Yeah, but you don't know anything about it.
I know a lot about bikes.
What do you know about bikes?
Bikes are one of the great modes of transportation worldwide.
It is over the AI summary.
Not really.
So we're playing.
Rockets?
Who cares?
Demonstrate knowledge.
Rockets?
Tell me about frames.
I don't go deep on, like, things, like, you know?
No, you don't.
I'm not, like, a gadgets person.
Surprise.
A bicycle's a gadget.
There are people that get into it quick.
Like, our producer, Sean, knows exactly what kind of tennis racket he uses.
Right.
How the strings are tentative.
I don't care.
I buy the one that's, like, generic.
Give me the middle of the bell curve.
And that's fine.
Yeah.
I'm not an equipment person.
Right.
Same.
Nonetheless, you said six or eight for some of these.
I know.
That's why I was expecting more in that rating.
Okay.
Got it.
I'm not interested in any of that stuff.
But now you know for all of us what our rankings are.
I view the rest of those things, boats, trains, planes, like people view cars.
Like a nuisance that I have to use.
Plane.
People are like, oh, planes.
What plane did you ride on?
I once got on an airplane without knowing what airline I was on.
And when they came on the announcements, I thought I was on the wrong thing because
I had boarded.
I thinking I was on United and it was Delta.
And I checked my ticket.
I was like, oh, no, no.
You think you could have gotten on the plane if that was a good thing?
Of course not.
But I'm not paying attention to any of this stuff.
Yeah.
That's true.
Remember that stowaway who went to Europe?
No.
Okay.
Here's a great question for Filippo.
Oh, gosh.
From W113SL.
What ever happened to automotive night vision systems?
Do you remember this?
Yeah, of course.
They had night vision inside the S-plus.
Yeah.
And the Cadillacs had.
Yeah.
What happened to them?
They got pedestrian safety.
They got all this stuff.
But couldn't night vision make a comeback?
I actually believe it or not, I had night vision in that E-class station wagon.
Did you really?
That white one.
It must have been the only one filled with it.
And but when we were driving it like up to Princeton at night, right, from Philly, there's
all these, you're on these country roads, deer everywhere.
So useful.
It was so useful.
Was it heads up, display journey?
And it was in your gauge cluster, but I would, you're not supposed to do this, but I would
to the point where I would like half my time I'd be looking at things because it gave a
heat signature and you were on roads, there's no cars coming, but the big fear is deer.
What happened to those things?
They were great.
It is a good question.
I don't know.
Maybe that was, maybe it was the liability the lawyer said we can't have people staring
at screens.
But they have navigation and all of them.
There are still cars that have them.
I was in an S, a MyBot the other month that had them, but like I assumed it would proliferate.
Like so many technologies from that era proliferate, like LED brake lights and all this stuff.
I wonder if they just never found a way to get it cheap enough and that technology proliferates
because it gets cheap.
Yeah.
You've figured out how to build it.
You've figured out how to build it more cheaply.
I'm ready for night vision.
I am too.
Plus night vision has been around in a lot of applications forever, military applications
and like, I mean, you think it could make it in the cars.
I will say there are some things where like Lidar doesn't, it doesn't matter if it's
a day or night.
It's not camera driven.
And so you're maybe there may become a time when night vision is actually made obsolete
by newer technology.
Which is already kind of it, right?
If you have a car with automatic emergency braking that uses Lidar for it, you're maybe
it'll still break.
It'd be nice to know.
It would be.
I like to know when a deer is going to come.
Even if the car is going to do the braking for me, I want to know when a deer is coming.
Right.
Yeah.
Because what if you want venison that night?
Okay.
Two more questions, two more questions from Andrew G. Boo, Infinity FX 50S.
Yes.
This is the performance SUV that no one talks about.
Why is that?
It wasn't good.
You ever driven one?
Have you ever driven one?
I've not, but I know enough.
It's just motor.
That's why nobody talks about it.
It's not athletic and the transmission is not good.
Like I think they're pretty cool.
And on paper, I bet we sold a couple of them, FX 50S.
They had tons of power.
All the power in the world.
Yeah.
It turns out 390 horsepower, maybe not all the power in the world.
Four horsepower 2009 was a big deal.
And also, they looked so sporty.
They looked so good.
Yeah.
The FX 45, when it came out, had 345 horsepower in 2003, which was a really big deal.
It took the Cayenne S that same year to beat it out with the V8.
The truth is, it's a powerful car.
The acceleration times are good.
It is just simply not an athletic car.
It just doesn't drive sporty.
It's simply fast.
It's like a Model 3.
It's fast, but that's all you get.
It's kind of the same.
You remember the Infiniti Q50 Redline or Red Sport?
Yeah, Red Sport.
The Red Sport 400.
Yeah.
It was just fun.
Yeah.
They don't make that great of sporty cars.
OK.
Last question from Kenan's next car.
Oh.
I wish I knew what it was.
If the crew had to stage an intervention to force one member to sell a car in their
current fleet for their own good, who is getting the call and which car is going?
Nicky.
Nick Count.
Yep.
Yep.
P38.
But like four of Nick cars before it even comes to anybody else.
Nick's P38.
The focus.
Instantly.
The focus is wife.
Don't forget.
Nick's focus.
Instantly.
My cayenne.
I know.
The Cayenne is getting the call back.
It's Nick.
Sorry, Nick.
It's Nick.
What about one of the three of us?
I think him and one of his GTI.
I just sold my Fiat.
Last week either his GTI or GTI.
The truck.
The truck.
The truck we're into.
I know everybody wants to say it's me and I should get rid of you three.
No, I don't think that.
I just posted on Instagram recently how much I love that car.
Yeah.
I just love that car.
You and the...
I don't even know.
4GT.
Yeah.
No way.
Couldn't.
By the way, I looked it up.
The 612 is 10 inches longer than your 4GT.
10.
You could fit it.
Yeah, but then you have to think about it.
You have to think about it.
I don't like to think.
And one of the problems is the 4GT parks behind my desk and I'm always worried that I'm going
to send a chair into a car.
But one time you ran your car into your house.
It's a concern.
It was newly built.
You don't know if it was built.
The house hadn't been there before.
It shouldn't have been standing there.
Totally forgot.
And so I worry about the chair going into the car.
It has parking sensors.
No, but...
The chair doesn't.
The chair doesn't.
That's true.
And it's on wheels.
Good visibility though.
A lot of folks would have put a non-wheeled chair in that desk.
Not me.
Nick is the clear answer to this question.
Yeah, Nick is because he's a degenerate and has all those cars.
Should we do one more question?
Let's do one more.
One more.
From H-L-E-I, H-I-E-I 625, Doug, during the driving segment of your videos, have you
ever seen a video that made you go, oh my God, and make you lose focus on what you're
sitting and doing?
Believe it or not, that has happened a few times.
I was driving the Wira in Newport Beach down PCH and of Chiron was randomly was coming
the other way.
That was wild.
I edited that part out, I think, but it happened.
This week, two weeks ago, I was driving something.
Oh, that green AMG GT 4-Door S63S, GTS 4-Door E-Performance.
Close enough.
Yep.
And I'm driving on the highway and a G63 6x6 is driving along next to me.
And I literally was filming the video and I stopped the clip, took the phone, took
the picture.
I mean, it's a 6x6.
Cars look crazy.
Yep.
And then I went on.
They didn't look at the 63 E-Performance, 4-Door G-Performance, but despite the fact
that it was green or orange or whatever color it was, it was a bright color.
It was something bright.
I don't remember how it was green.
It was green Helm Magno, right?
Yeah, I think so.
Oh, yeah.
Okay, final question.
With every generation from Jason Buckholz, with every generation of car getting larger
and larger, do you think cars will stop eventually growing in size or do you think eventually
we will change infrastructure to accommodate larger cars?
The widths are not getting bigger.
That's not really true.
Here's what I've got.
A little wider.
I'm going to tell you all a story that I think you're going to dispute.
Cars are not getting bigger.
Two things.
In the 50s, in the 60s, cars were...
Good point.
Have you ever seen those cars?
Fair point.
They were huge.
They're big.
No, they're not.
Here's the other thing that I've started to realize.
As the automaker grows the car with each successive generation, the people who used to buy that
car slide in and buy the...
Oh, you're joking.
The CR-V is now the pilot.
If you're a family, you buy a CR-V now, which it used to be you buy a pilot, but the pilot's
gotten big and the CR-V is now where the pilot was size-wise.
Two row, but yeah.
It's two row, but that's what people are buying.
This has happened with all of them.
The RAV4 is now the family SUV, whereas it was the Highlander to the point where they're
not getting rid of the Highlander because...
And this happened with Sequoia Land Cruiser, right?
Land Cruiser got so big and so expensive, they eventually were like, there's not a market
for this car anymore.
And I actually think that the automakers will continue growing the cars and then slotting
underneath BMW in the one series, right?
There was no one series until there was, and now it's like the size of a three series.
So if you want a sporty BMW, that's what you get, and a five series is a big car.
That's a good point.
And that is the cars will never get big as a result.
Interesting.
I do think that you see in countries that have a lot of historical infrastructure that
they can't easily change a lot of Europe, Japan, there are still very much a lot of
demand for small cars because that's all that you can reasonably drive around.
And that's going to limit size increases.
I think if you go to like a new suburb anywhere in America, lanes are really wide, parking
spots are really wide because they want to accommodate that.
So there'll be some continuous increase up, but you also still want to be able to drive
through old town Philadelphia.
And that street's not going to get wider.
And so if you want to do that, if you live there, you're going to need to go for smaller
cars.
And that's going to constrain it.
Isn't it old city?
Yeah.
Okay.
It's going to constrain it.
I think that widths are not growing.
Isn't it 80 inches like the max?
No, widths are still growing a little bit.
Like the ships through Panama, you know what I mean?
Right.
Another good Wikipedia dive.
I think there'll be some on the margins will increase, but a lot of the searchers not
going to change.
I think the cars get bigger.
They age out.
People get into the smaller ones.
Cars are getting smaller.
The average size of car in the 60s, I guarantee you, was like two feet longer than the average
size of car today.
We are getting smaller and more efficient and everything's going to be just fine.
And no more start, stop.
And start, stop is over.
Goodbye, everyone.
The hot and cold again.
Goodbye.
Goodbye.
Goodbye.
About this episode
Discussion kicks off with the controversial decision by the Trump administration to remove credits for start-stop technology in cars, igniting a debate on its practicality and public perception. The hosts then shift gears to reveal the new Audi RS5 Avant, a plug-in hybrid boasting 630 horsepower, which they find exciting due to its compact size compared to larger competitors. The episode highlights the resurgence of wagons in the market and the hosts' differing opinions on performance and design, making for a lively and engaging conversation.
Alessandro Volta
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Bentley Flying Spur
BMW 5 Series
BMW 6 Series
BMW M3
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Cadillac CTS-V
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Infiniti Q50
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Lincoln Navigator
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Porsche 911
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Renault Twingo
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00:00:00 THIS CAR POD!
00:00:12 Start/Stop Is Dead
00:04:54 New Audi RS5 Leaked
00:10:09 Ferrari Luce Spied
00:17:19 Scout Delayed
00:21:23 Tesla Built A Cybercab
00:23:48 The New Audi TT
00:28:31 Laser Etched Rolls-Royce
00:33:32 Talk Cars
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