Ineos is the company behind the Grenadier, and the episode frames its heritage story as a key part of selling the vehicle. Here, “Ineos” is used as the consumer-facing identity tied to the Grenadier’s origin narrative.
The Grenadier pub is the real-world place the hosts say the idea for the Ineos Grenadier started. They mention it because the company uses that story as part of its identity.
Lin Calder is the CEO of Ineos Automotive. The hosts say they spoke with him for an upcoming episode, so he’s a key person behind the company’s message.
The Ford F-250 Super Duty is a big, heavy pickup truck made for work like towing and carrying loads. The host is saying it can drive over potholes more easily than a normal car because it’s built tougher and sits higher.
This means the truck has a V10 engine—10 cylinders arranged in a V—and it’s 6.8 liters big. A bigger engine like this usually helps a heavy truck pull and move easily.
Milbrook Proving Ground is a car testing site in the UK. Car makers use it to test cars on purpose-built tracks so they can compare how different cars behave.
This is an event organized by the SMMT where car makers bring cars for journalists to drive and review. It’s basically a structured media test day for new models.
Comparison tests are structured evaluations where multiple cars are driven under similar conditions so differences in behavior are easier to attribute to the vehicles themselves. The key is repeating the same route and setup to reduce “noise” from changing conditions.
They limit speed on the hill test route to keep testing controlled and safe. Drivers are supposed to follow the rule, even if real-world speeds can vary.
Mike Hawes is a top executive at the SMMT, which represents car makers and parts suppliers. Here, he’s talking about what government rules mean for the auto industry, particularly electric-vehicle requirements.
A ZEV mandate is a government rule that requires car companies to sell a certain number of zero-emission cars. In this segment, they’re saying it’s creating pressure and problems for the auto industry.
Electric vehicles are cars that run on electricity, usually from a battery. Here, they’re important because the government is setting rules about how many of these cars must be sold.
The Cooper S is a sportier version of the Mini. It’s usually meant to feel quicker and more fun to drive than the standard Mini. Here, they’re saying they’re replacing their older Cooper S.
The Mini Cooper triple refers to a Mini powered by a three-cylinder engine (“triple”), which is a common modern Mini layout for efficiency and smooth everyday driveability. The host also highlights that this specific new car is an automatic with an eight-speed gearbox, and they describe it as quieter and smoother while still having strong “step off” response.
An eight-speed automatic transmission is a gearbox with eight different gear ratios. Having more gears can make the car shift more smoothly and keep the engine from working as hard, which often feels quieter.
“Step off” means how quickly the car pulls away when you accelerate. They’re saying the new car still feels responsive, not sluggish.
Car
Morgan Supersport
The Morgan Supersport is the standard version of the Supersport line. In this segment, the host uses it as a comparison point—talking about how the 400 version feels different because it has more power and different options.
Car
Morgan Supersport 400
The Morgan Supersport 400 is a Morgan roadster that’s been tuned to feel quicker and more responsive. The host talks about how it delivers strong pulling power at lower engine speeds, and how options like the differential and adjustable suspension make it feel more exciting (or more comfortable) depending on how you set it.
Peak torque is the engine’s strongest “pulling power.” If it happens at lower engine speeds, the car feels more responsive because you don’t have to rev as high to get moving.
Term
urgency
“Urgency” is a way of saying the car feels like it reacts quickly when you press the gas. The host is basically saying it feels eager and responsive rather than slow to build speed.
A limited-slip differential helps the car put power to the road more effectively. Instead of one wheel spinning uselessly, it helps both wheels work together better, which can make the car feel more responsive.
The host brings up the Porsche 911 as a reference point for how refined and polished a car can feel. They’re saying the Morgan Supersport doesn’t feel quite as smooth or “premium” as a 911.
Nitron dampers are shocks you can adjust to change how firm or comfortable the ride feels. The host says the Supersport 400’s setup is more performance-oriented, but you can dial it back if the ride feels too stiff on your daily roads.
300,000 miles is a lot of driving. The hosts are saying that even at that mileage, a Prius can still feel decent if it’s been cared for and refreshed where it matters.
The Toyota Prius is a hybrid car, meaning it uses both a gas engine and an electric motor. The hosts are saying that a high-mileage Prius (even one used for rideshare) can still drive nicely.
An “Uber car” is a car that’s been used to drive passengers for a ridesharing service. It usually racks up a lot of miles and wear faster than a normal personal car.
Floor mats are the removable coverings on the car’s floor. They help protect the carpet, and replacing them can make a used car feel cleaner and less worn.
The steering wheel is what you hold to steer the car. If it’s worn out, the whole interior can feel tired—so replacing it can make a high-mileage car feel fresher.
They’re talking about a Volkswagen Golf. It’s a common, everyday small car, and the point here is that this one has lasted a long time even with regular upkeep.
A fan blower is the HVAC (heating/ventilation/air-conditioning) fan that pushes air through the cabin. The speaker replaced the fan blower and then needed to reinstall the glovebox to finish the job, which is a common DIY workflow for dashboard HVAC components.
A Weyman body is an older-style car body made with a wooden frame and fabric covering. The host is saying it looked period-correct, but the body could flex and feel less solid than a modern all-metal body.
A ladder frame is a car’s main structure made like a ladder—two long beams with bars connecting them. It’s sturdy, but it can make the body feel a bit less tight or controlled than newer designs.
The BMW M3 is a high-performance BMW made by BMW’s performance team. It’s the kind of car people buy when they want the car to feel sporty and fun to drive, not just comfortable.
Alpina is a company that modifies BMWs to feel quicker and more luxurious. People often see Alpina as a middle ground between regular BMWs and the more hardcore BMW M performance cars.
Villa d’Este is a well-known car event in Italy where automakers show off special concept cars. It’s the kind of place associated with luxury and design.
The Alpina Vision is a concept car—basically a preview of what Alpina might build next. Concept cars are shown to show the brand’s design and performance direction.
Brand
Zegato
Zegato is an Italian design company that makes special, styled versions of cars. The hosts mention it to compare pricing and timing of concept/model launches.
The Range Rover is a large luxury SUV made by Land Rover. It’s designed to feel comfortable and upscale, but it’s also built to handle rough roads. It may be discussed because it’s one of the most recognizable and “top” models in the lineup.
A plug-in hybrid is a car that can drive using electricity from a battery, but it also has a regular engine. You can charge it like an electric car, but it can still run without charging too.
They’re talking about a Mercedes-AMG GT that’s electric. It’s described as a long, four-door “coupe-style” car, but powered by electricity instead of a traditional engine. The big headline is that it’s still meant to feel like an AMG performance car, just with electric power.
The Jaguar F-Type is a sports car made by Jaguar. It’s designed to be quick and fun to drive. The podcast is using it as a comparison because it’s one of the closest cars available today to what the upcoming Type 01 is expected to be like.
The Type 01 is an upcoming Jaguar car that hasn’t arrived yet. The podcast is saying that, for now, there isn’t an exact match, but there are current cars that are the closest in terms of how it’s expected to perform. It’s discussed so listeners can picture what to expect.
They mention the Jaguar Type 01 as a future Jaguar electric car. The speaker is basically saying it’s the closest match to the electric AMG GT in terms of what kind of car it is and how people will use it.
They bring up the Porsche Taycan as an example of a serious electric performance car that already exists. It’s Porsche’s electric lineup, and they’re using it to frame what “fast electric” looks like today.
They mention Lotus as an example of a brand that feels different from what people expect. The idea is that changes in the cars—especially powertrain and design direction—can make a brand feel “new.”
Powertrain is the set of parts that actually make the car move. In simple terms, it’s what kind of engine/motors it uses and how that power gets to the wheels.
The Tesla Model Y is an electric SUV, meaning it runs on electricity instead of gasoline. It’s designed for everyday driving with a practical size and seating for passengers. It comes up a lot because it’s a major seller in Tesla’s lineup.
The Tesla Model S is a fully electric car shaped like a sedan. It’s built to be fast and to use modern tech features, and it’s Tesla’s more premium model. It’s mentioned because it’s a key reference point for what Tesla can do at the high end.
The Land Rover Defender is a modern revival of the classic Defender off-road SUV, and it’s discussed as a sales success that Land Rover can point to. In this context, it’s contrasted with “trouble keeping up with demand,” implying strong customer demand for Defender.
A tender process is like an official bidding contest for a contract. Companies submit proposals, and the government picks the one that best fits what they need.
“MX-5” refers to the Mazda MX-5, a popular lightweight roadster that’s commonly used as a donor for kit-car builds. The host suggests using “forward bits” or MX-5 bits, meaning parts from the MX-5 can be adapted to other projects.
Car
Lotus 6
They’re talking about an early Lotus called the Lotus 6. The point is that it had an older, less-refined engine and a basic four-speed gearbox, and the host says it also felt rough—especially with braking and shifting.
“All-aluminium body” means the car’s body is made mostly from aluminum instead of steel. Aluminum is lighter, which can help the car feel more nimble, but repairs can be different than with steel.
It’s a yearly charity ride for motorcyclists. People dress up and ride together to raise money, and it’s held in lots of cities around the world.
Car
Triumph 1200 twin Speedmaster
This is a Triumph motorcycle called the Speedmaster, and the host says it’s based on the Bonneville. They mention it because they use it for a yearly charity ride event.
Caterham is a British car brand famous for small, lightweight sports cars. Here, they’re talking about Caterham offering factory tours because lots of people want to visit and see how the cars are made.
The Ferrari Luce is a new car from Ferrari that people are talking about because it’s coming soon. The podcast mention suggests it’s exciting enough to be worth seeing in person. It’s discussed as a notable new model in Ferrari’s lineup.
Johnny Ive is a famous designer, best known for helping define Apple’s look and feel. The hosts are saying he designed the interior of the Ferrari Luce, which is a big deal because it means the cabin design is coming from a top-tier design background.
An embargo is a media restriction that prevents journalists from publishing certain information until a specific date/time. The hosts mention an embargo “lifting,” meaning the car’s details can go public after that deadline.
The Toyota Hilux is a tough pickup truck that’s sold in a lot of countries. Here they’re talking about a hybrid version, meaning it uses both a regular engine and an electric system to help with fuel use.
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Steve, properly over there. Hello, Stephen.
Hello, mate. How's it going?
Very good, mate. Where are we today, Steve?
Well, here we are parked outside the Grenadier pub, which is a place where the Ineos Grenadier
was born. We're actually sitting in the front seat of one because it's a nice, quiet place to be
to make a podcast. Yeah, they're doing some other filming, aren't they, in the pub?
They seem to be making a bit of a thing about it, because outside the immediate industry,
I think they still think that not many people are really aware that the Ineos Grenadier was
conceived inside a pub called the Grenadier. Yeah, and I think the point that we've just
heard about is the fact that they're particularly proud of this heritage, and they think that
heritage sells cars. And four by four, born in pub, it's utterly genuine, isn't it? There's a
seat where the boss of Ineos was actually sitting when he and his mates drew a plan on a fiver and
hung it on the ceiling. And you can go in the pub and see the fiver, can't you?
Nice pub in there as well. Oh, that's great, really good.
Steve and I have been talking to Ineos Automotive's chief executive officer,
Lin Calder, and that pod will be out this weekend, three days after this. And there's other stuff
to tell in the coming weeks, isn't there? Yeah. I think so, more on that. This pod is brought
to you in association with our sponsors Anderson. You can find them at Anderson-EV.com. Now, I was
speaking to my brother, I think, the other day, and he said, when you say that these charges of
premium design led and premium, he said, I thought they were going to be really expensive.
Then I went onto the Anderson website and I realized they start from £695, which actually
is quite good value. Yeah, it is. There's a range, isn't there? There's a very nice product,
which is sort of the same product. And then there's a slightly upmarket one that you can
configure to suit the building that you're going to hang it on and so on. They've got it cracked.
You can write to us, listener, autocaratheymarket.com, as James Clark has done to say hello, Matt
Steve. I hope you both well. I wanted to let you know that I've solved the awful pothole problems
inflicted as Matt knows. I do know this, James, yes, on Oxfordshire residents by the car hating
Oxfordshire County Council. There is a road near me, mate, that you know well. There have been
potholes, which I reported in January and still have not been fixed. And it's the middle of May.
The solution, says James, turns out to be simple, by a Ford F250 Super Duty truck powered by 6.8
litre petrol V10. Now pothole worries are a thing of the past, as the big Ford just rolls over them
without noticing. In fact, it will roll over anything without noticing. As an additional upside,
given it's a proper Super Duty, it will tow Devon, carry a small town in the enormous bed and
it's fast, comfortable, quiet, although only on the inside, I'm told, and has an endlessly
vast cabin. So a big thank you to Oxfordshire County Council and its war on cars for helping
me make the right decision. When councillors see it blocking out the sunlight, I hope they know
it's all down to them. He doesn't talk about fuel consumption. No, I think it might be best
not to ask. No, no, no, it might be best not to ask. He's a bit of a comedian old James in the
industry. He, of course, is a bloke that used to be in the motor industry and is now
involved with the rural business, isn't he? He was, but it's just changed together.
Well, this pod, as usual, we'll talk about our respective auto car columns and a bit more besides,
where were you, as we speak Steve, where were you yesterday?
Oh, well, I went to the Milbrook Proving Ground. It's run by or owned by a testing company called
UTAC these days, but it's variously been General Motors, Vauxhall, Lotus, blah, blah, but it's
the vast Bedfordshire testing ground with a two mile high speed bowl and it's used annually for
a thing called the SMMT Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders test day, media test day.
What happens is that everybody or a lot of people who sell cars in this country
bring along the machines that they're keen to sell and let hacks like us have a go on them.
And it's a good day out because you get to meet the people that you need to know in the companies
and you can step lightly from one car to the next without a lot of ceremony. And as we know,
because we get involved in comparison tests, that advantage of being able to just get out of one
and into the next is a hugely informative thing to do. Yeah, it is. Yeah, it really is. Because I
sometimes find that even if there's a few hours or a couple of days between cars, you sort of get
I think that about this, did I think that? But the ability to just leap straight from one
into another, same stretch of mode effectively, same conditions is really helpful. Yeah, and of
course, lots of surfaces and they're given, I mean, they're a bit stringent about how
you use the track, but it's pretty good. You can find out what you need to find out, can't you?
The hill, to use the hill route for test routes? Yeah, they put a 55 mile an hour limit on it,
although how they, they don't sort of measure it. So people often do 55 at about 80, but
they have to, it's a good place, isn't it? I haven't been for a while. Do they have
sort of marshals with flags? They do, but you need to slow down a bit if you are.
Yeah, but only if you're a madman, really. I think they're people who can tell,
you know, if the car's online and under control, they're pretty sensible and growing up about it.
Yeah, it's good. The hill route is funny, isn't it? I, it was the, which Bond film was it,
where there's a, that Aston Martin does a flip and they flip it. I think it flipped maybe more
times than they thought and there's still a, I think there was last time I was there, it's been
a while. There was a patch of tarmac, which had to be resurfaced because as they chucked this car
on Twitter, I forget which film it was, which one it was. It was one of the Daniel Craig ones,
wasn't it? Yes, yes, not too long ago. Yeah, I remember sitting in the, I suppose I was in the
theater, but I just, I tend to get swept up with these things, but I suddenly remember thinking,
hang on, that's Myra. Yeah, I just get that. I get that with, we don't use it. Well, sorry,
a long time, but there's so many films that I sort of spot that in. There's a driving shot
and you think, hang on a minute, I know exactly where that is. They're on the snake, they're on the
outer, outer road. I'll ask you what you drove in a minute, but is there the chief executive
of the SMMT, he says a few words, doesn't he? Yeah, Mike Hawes, I really got such a lot of
time for Mike Hawes. He's got the world's most impossible job in that the SMMT is the, is the
kind of car manufacturers and, and component suppliers talking shop and it's,
he's, in effect, he's got hundreds of customers and, and he, finding a, a way through this,
a direction that suits them all is a, is a remarkable thing to do. But normally what happens
is that there's some government pronouncement on automotive. Mike will be out within, you know,
hours, sometimes minutes with a, with a sort of rather clear analysis from the industry
point of view about what this means to us all. And he's, he's just one of these people that can
sort of summarize things and tell you what to think. I really admire what he does. And he typically
stands up at 830 every time this event is on. It's like the Goodwood Festival Speed to me. It's
just one of those things that punctuates a year. And Mike, you know, he probably only talked for
15 minutes, but, but he puts things into perspective. And as usual, he was talking about the, the
ZEV mandate that the, the standard the government has set for sales of electric vehicles and how
it's going and how it's making life hard for the industry and what they should do and so on.
And he's, you, you just find, you find a new clarity if he'll listen to Mike, I like him.
I saw, I think I saw a headline yesterday, which said MPs say that the ZEV mandate is
Cobblers. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Did you write about that? Or did I, or did I, have I missed, have I, have I, did I just
press? Yeah. I think I saw a deadline, but I haven't read the story about it. But if, but if
other MPs are coming out and saying it rather than just the industry, then that's significant,
isn't it? I think it feels significant. You know, I was on about the, the boy minister for
Trenton Roads a while ago. Look, this never had a real job just be now. And, and, and a driving
license. That's it. No drive. Even he was, was willing to admit that what they, what they needed
to do was, was review and possibly change the ZEV mandate. It's just that his, his lack of a sense
of urgency was the problem. You know, he was, well, next year, he said, and of course, in the
meantime, you know, 9000000000 quid is being expended on, you know, in marketing ways that
could otherwise as Mike eloquently said yesterday be spent on R&D. Yeah. So we need, it's good if
rank and file politicians are coming alive, but what we really need are the office holders to do
something. What did you drive? Well, I, I mainly talked, but I drove a few
Chinese cars that I hadn't been in before. You know, I found myself
sort of rather impressed. There was a car that I particularly liked
the styling of, which was a cherry, I think. I just thought it was really
fantastic piece of work. Little ones, big ones. It would be a Tigo four, would it? It might have
been a Tigo four. Yeah. That's the, that's the only cherry I've driven so far. Yeah. Is that a good
looking car? Did you find? I think so. I'm going to, I'm going to refresh my memory
with the addition of, with the, how big was it? It was about, it was between Focus and Mondeo.
Oh, well, I think that's a Tigo four. Yeah. I think that's a Tigo four. Yeah. Because I think
at the moment there's a four and a seven and an eight. Did it look like that? That is the car
in question. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's pretty inoffensively. It's quite, it's, you can see why
people buy them company. I mean, we've been speaking to a lot of engineers recently who
and tech and industry leaders and European industry leaders who would like a bit more support against
the rising tide of Chinese imports, but if you are a buyer and you don't care, you can see why
people end up where they end up. Yeah. And it's such a complicated, it's difficult to take a firm
stance because, you know, the, the, the sort of Renault's and VW's in this world use a load of
Chinese components anyway. Yeah. And, and, you know, do we complain about that? No. No. And as,
I think, I can't remember where I said, I probably said it on this podcast, mate, and I'm repeating
myself, but if somebody says, well, I'm only going to spend 200 quid a month on a car rather than 300
quid on a more locally built car, but without extra 100 pounds, I can go to the farm shop more and I
can go to the local pub more and I can go to these local businesses and support those more.
By shoes or the children. It's hard to, it's hard to make a moral case, do you know what I mean?
I agree. Absolutely. I agree completely. The, I mean, I think the best you can do is, is,
is try and support the local industry if possible. Yeah. We've actually supported the local industry
a little bit, if you, if you call Mini, buying a secondhand Mini, the local industry, but we are
about to replace the Cooper S, the 70,000 mile Cooper S with a 3000 mile Cooper triple, which is
one year old. So that's not an S? No, no, no, I, I, it's funny, I went for a bit of a squirt in the,
in the 1.5 triple and that's what this new car is about. Yeah. Yeah. And with an eight speed box
and auto and I found it good. I, I, I thought, you know, it's quieter, smoother, still plenty of
step off because obviously it's got, oh, the local church. The local church is ringing out.
Yeah. Call it this. Yeah. Probably tells you the time, don't it? Yeah, 10, 10, 30 minutes.
But anyway, it's, I'm really excited by it. It's an exclusive, which I gather is, is one of the
top models. Right. Which I selected without, impetuously, without involving the steering
committee in it, because I just thought you would like a lighter interior. We've always had black
interiors, and we often had black interiors in cars. And I think a bit of lightness might,
might suit her. Yeah. Anyway, collection on, as this is, as we speak, what is it today? Thursday,
Um, yeah, collection Monday. So it's exciting. Isn't it weird how you get, well, you just
experienced it, haven't you? God damn, with the Morgan exciting day, man. That was an exciting
day up on the train. I've got that. Listener, if you go to my Instagram at, at automatic transmission,
you can see a video of my collection day of the Morgan Supersport. And God, I've got to do that.
And I'd really nice time there. Oh, they're nice people. Oh, and I've been back since,
mate. Oh, because I drove the Supersport 400 on Monday of this week. Oh, that's a animal,
isn't it? The embargo lifts today. When this pod comes out, it is. Yeah. Because it's got the base
Supersport 335 horsepower, which did not occur to me that it needed more than that. Because it's
at 1170 kilos. Yeah. Uh, yeah. So now it's got 400 and it's got peak torque of I want to say 370
pounds feet from 1,250 reps. So it just, do you notice the difference? Yeah. Well, it was a damp
day and it's been a while since I drove the Supersport, but it's just got so much urgency
all the time. It had a, the optional limited slip diff fitted. So the Supersport 400 is
around 130,000 pounds. The base model is just over 100,000. They've got competitors.
I don't know. I don't know what. Nobody makes a car quite like it because aerials and catering
rooms are that bit lighter. Yeah. Traditional roadsters are that bit heavier. I don't know what
the natural rival, if at all, for them is. And also they sort of, you know, the Supersport,
the Morgans have been like third or fourth cars or more. Yeah. They'd like the Supersport to be
a second car. I don't know if it's quite, in terms of refinement, it's not, it's not up with
Porsche 911 standards of refinement. But with the, the 400, as well as the power,
you get the Nitron dampers, which are optional on the base model. Oh, right. And you get a couple of
other packs that like the lightest wheels you can get as standard. And I think they're optional
on the base model. So actually, they're a bit of a big deal, aren't they, the suspension?
Yeah, these Nitro, I haven't tried one without, but I believe that the, so the Nitron dampers
on the standard car are 15 clicks from the full firm, but on the Supersport, they're
five clicks from full firm. On some roads, it can be a little bit harsh, but, but you can wind
back. So if they're a bit hard for you and feel what you do day to day, just wind them differently.
Yeah, yeah. So I think it's got such urgency. It's got, it's really, I mean,
they're so fabulous, honestly. Can you keep that, that sort of historic, sort of traditionalist
connection and yet build these modern cars? I mean, you know, even the three-wheeler you've got
are so modern. It's, it may be a sort of 1909 format, but the fact of the matter is it's a very
modern vehicle, isn't it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I haven't used it loads, but I just jumped in it last
night to go to the, the shop and it starts exactly as a Ford triple dozen poohled away
and poohled back and I was standing in the queue in the co-op looking out the window looking at it,
just like thinking, I've done a good thing. I've done a good thing. I can't quite believe,
I still can't quite believe it's mine. One of those, you know, one of those moments.
But isn't it strange? I mean, here we are, you know, if you, if you're required by the job to get in
a somebody's 120 grand car later today, you'll, you'll sort of think, oh, well, that's nice,
you know, I'll be able to assess this dispassionately. But if you, you know, if it's your own car that
doesn't cost quite that much, same as us with the Mini, I find myself a little tremble going on.
It's funny, isn't it? It is. How weird we are. Did you drive anything else? Oh, yes, yes, yes. The
thing that, the thing that stood out was there was a stand there for eBay Motors, you know, the folks
that were behind the, the BM Coupe that you had, the 330. And they had a 300,000 mile Toyota Prius,
which had done a 64 plate, which had done a large part of its life as a, an Uber car.
They'd, the point that we're trying to make is that, is that if you spend some Dosh in
eBay market on things like, you know, floor mats and better tires and fixer brakes and so on,
you can have a car that many people would say was worn out. That was fine. And I did, you know,
I went around to test tracks in this thing and, and it was just like a Toyota Prius. In fact,
a bit nicer than many. And, you know, steered, well, if one of the interesting things was that
they'd replaced the steering wheel. They'd not with a new one, but with, they just found another
one on eBay. Oh, really? That hadn't, that wasn't quite so worn. Yeah. And, and bunged it on. And,
of course, it was, it's great. It was, if, if it wasn't for the auto reading and people didn't
tell you it had done 300,000 miles, it, you know, I could have settled for 70 or 80. No problem.
I wonder if, because cars don't corrode like they used to, typically, and because the
structural rigidity is much higher at launch, even though, even though cars do wear a metal
fatigue and everything else, whether they, yeah, whether they will just last longer than they used
to. Yeah. It's very, you know, while still feeling not floppy. Well, I think we're sort of already
seeing that, aren't we? Because, you know, people, but somebody has kids that go off to university
and they, and they, you can often buy a car that's pretty cheap these days, but still has its integrity
that, that, you know, pay 1500 quid for a car that, or even less for a car that's quite fit.
Yeah. Yeah. Also, they tolerate mileage well, don't they? It's not just a structure. So it's
a mileage. Yeah. I think, yeah, I think I've talked about this before, but my daughter's golf,
her previous car expired and we needed a new car today. Yeah. We just needed to phone somebody
up and there was a guy in the village who runs a little used car lot in the nearest town and he
said, what have you got? He said, oh, I've just, funnily enough, actually, I've just got a golf,
I've done nothing to it. It makes a bit of a funny noise from the engine, but I don't think there's
anything, it's got a, it's got a very slight weird ticking noise at low, it can't, he can't decide what
it was. Yeah. Yeah. We can't decide what it was. I think two and a half years later, we still don't
know what it is, and it doesn't matter. And he wanted 1200 quid for it because it had just arrived
and we just, well, fine, we'll have it. In a way, you don't want to know, do you?
You don't want to know. And it, but it's still, it's a 16 petrol. Yeah. I think
it's a 2006 car. So it's U-less compliant. Not that it can fit to London. What was the mileage,
did you say? I can't remember, mate. I think it's a hundred and it'll be a hundred and something
now because it wasn't there on Mazda as well. Do you? Yeah. My son's still got that. Yeah. I mean,
that's, I must have 130 something on it. Completely unbreakable as well. Yeah,
seems to be fine. We just send them for an MOT and a service every year and they come back.
Yeah. And that's it. It did have, actually, it did have a, a slight knocking from
somewhere the other day on the suspension, but it's all those bits that you can just unbolt and
repolt. There's never anything wrong with the, with the fundamentals of the chassis. Yeah. You
know, the body, but it's just where you just done, well, a bit like my A2, you just unbolt some
bits and put it on. Yeah, the A2 is still going strong now. It is still going strong,
but I did spend two grand on it the other week. So, so it has got, it has got its excuse to.
But, but if you, well, I've done 20,000 miles a year in it, so of course it needs a bit of work.
Yeah. And I could have done, if I'd done it myself, I just didn't have the time. No. You know, you
could deal with garage servicing at 80 quid an hour. If they spend two days on it, that gets
expensive. It does. So if you can do it yourself, that's the, that's the key. Yeah. And if you,
even if you bang that, that money on top of the, you know, the actual purchase price and of, you
know, the wheel change and a few things, it's still nothing really, is it? Yeah. I think,
oh, I wonder if I've worked, oh, I could out maybe for next week and see exactly how much I've spent
on that car. Because there's a cost per mile, I think it's not very much. No. When I factor in
the fact that I could probably sell it for at least what I paid for it. Yeah. Well, more, wouldn't
you? Well, hopefully, because it didn't have an MOT at the time and it does now. So. And you fixed
various, various just sort of an eagle and. Yeah, just done the, yeah, I need to put the glovebox
back in because I replaced the fan blower. Oh, yes, yes. I thought to myself, oh, but I'll just,
I'll just leave it, I'll leave the glovebox off while I just make sure that this fan blower that
I bought off of, off of a random place on the internet works. That was probably a year ago.
So I do need to do that. Isn't it amazing that some cars like and the A2 is a fantastic example.
It, it, they, they just amass miles. I mean, look at all the cars that come and go at your
place. You've also, you own various other cars. And yet the A2 still does more than the average
motorist mileage. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just because you fall into it. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Just you park
it anywhere. It's easy. It doesn't bomb. It doesn't do anything stupid. It's just very, and it does
where in summer it'll do, it'll average 70, 80 to the gallon. Yeah, yeah. That's unbeatable. I can't
see. I don't know. Listen, if you can hear this, the, one of the, the white noise of a vehicle
reversing. It's been doing it for ages and I haven't seen what it is or where it is. I think it's
up at the end of the muse. Is it going to come down that straight? Because there's a big, yeah,
there's a bloke with a high vis there, isn't there? And he looks to be doing a bit of gesticulating.
Oh yeah. So maybe a little, maybe a little bit. I think they're trying to get this fella to move,
move a car that's going to be in the way of the truck. Gotcha. Gotcha. This is a nice road,
this, isn't it? This little dead end muse road. And it is, they say it fills up completely with
customers from the Grand Deer pub. It's not, the Grand Deer pub is the size of a postage stamp
but, and, and you know, the population of a small village tries to go there for a drink every night
and, and so they all spread out into the lane here. It's great. Nice. What should we talk next?
Shall we talk? Do you want to do the Jag knows and all that?
The Jag knows. Yeah. You were talking about the Jag, the, sorry, the concept 00. Oh, I see. Oh,
this pod is brought to you in association with Anderson, Anderson-EV.com and they make
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for the chargers from just 695,000. And then also the Auto Car Archive I was in the other day
because I'm writing a feature about racing a train from Paris to Berlin. Oh, yeah. So I was in the
sort of 1930s issues, which is when cars first started racing trains, the blue train that goes from,
or went from Boulogne to
Monaco. Went to the south of France for sure. And there was a time when some various people decided
they would race it in cars. Was it Nice? Nice. Oh, it was nice. Nice. Yeah. Right. Yeah. And I think
the first people to do it were Rover with a
Yeah. Rover 14 was it? Yeah. I had a go in that car. Nice. Yeah. It had a, it had a so-called
Weyman body on it. We do, Weyman bodies have got fabric and wooden frame and it honestly, it was
Oh, you know, the ladder frame chassis was fine, but the, the body just moved
sort of three inches from side to side. Really? It was a, it was a funny, funny machine. Yeah. That,
that, that reversing is, is a bunch of blokes with scaffolding truck. Yeah. It is quite a long
scaffolding truck, isn't it? And it's trying to get out. So sorry if you can hear it in the background.
I think we've got off the windows open because it's quite a warm day. I think he's going to be okay
though. He's going to be all right. He's going to be all right. I think he's going to take him
another two or three turns to get around, but, but he's out into the, oh no, maybe you'll do it in one.
He might do it in one. No, he won't. Yeah.
Hope, it's a good thing people aren't paying for this, isn't it? Listening to after that all about
blokes and scaffolding truck. Yeah, you're right. Yeah. You're right. But anyway, then, so there was a
column in the, in the magazine that I was reading yesterday in about 1930 where one of the readers
has said that the French were not in love with people racing trains across France. No. I forget
that. I've got the exact phrase up, but they were like, Oh, I'll find it in a minute, mate. But
yeah, the, they were, they, they didn't like another country using them as a racetrack.
I think that's the phrase. I suppose you can sort of see that. Yeah, I get it. But also, apparently
there would, there would be times when somebody would be herring down through France trying to
bloke who was looking after the level crossing might close the level crossing because he said
there was a train coming and only, only open it if he was persuaded with the application of a few
friends at the time. So, you know, that, that small cottage industry was lost with the races.
Oh, dear. And then Bentley did it in, I think a bit later in 1930. More famously. Yeah. Yeah.
Anyway, that's at themagazineshop.com. You can find full access to the 131-year AutoCar archive.
And you can find in our show notes, you can find a link to a subscriber offer to subscribe to the
mag, which I think is six issues for six pounds. Excited. That's for the digital mag. It is a bargain,
isn't it? Well, funny enough, actually, we've got a letter here from Chris Whitehead, who says,
I've just subscribed to the magazine solely because of your podcast. Sorry, this is a bit
Steve Wright in the afternoon, isn't it? Love the show, Steve. Yeah. After a little trouble
activating it, I'm now reading my first digital edition as a long-term BMW owner and current
M3 and also a long-term admirer of the Alpina brand. I wonder what your opinions are if Alpina,
both looking back at the Bovenseepen era and looking forward to the new BMW owned era,
it seems that it will be a trim level, question mark, above normal BMWs but below Rolls Royce.
Is this stealing Jaguar's thunder? My opinion is that I wanted BMW to make Alpina, whatever it
whatever you want to call it, Alpina variants as an alternative to the M division, M cars,
the track and road cars, therefore fairly firm and aimed at sporting progress. I was hoping
Alpina would be very fast luxury as powerful alternative with similar performance but aimed
less at track times, more for daily road use. What do you two think? We may have covered a
little of this already. That is exactly what they say. Do you remember I think we were talking
about how they've ditched the competition idea and what they wanted it to be extremely quick
but luxury is? I think this is Chris's going to get what he wants. I think I touched in subscriber
extra last week, which was my the Friday email you get from one of the staffers as an extra bit
of bonus editorial content if you're a subscriber because BMW just launched the Alpina Vision
concept car at Villa d'Este last week, didn't they? Exactly the same event, exactly the same
week the year before Bovenseepin launched its Zegato model, which will be more expensive.
They're not going to make the BMW, are they? But they are going to have
maybe some bespoke looks and things. The first model is supposed to be it's going to be top
down, isn't it? They're going to start at the top and it will be pretty different.
They've got good people in charge. Max Mussoni, who I rate very highly, the bloke that designed
all those lovely pole stars, he's the guy in charge, so I think it's going to be okay.
So is the Jaguar an AMG thing? Have you seen the new AMG? Only the pigs. Yeah, me too. What do you
think? This is the electric Ford or GT? It's pretty derivative, I must say, to me. It's spectacular.
One of those grills, big fat car. I don't know where I am with them. I think I need to
maybe drive one or something, but I find them not desirable from the styling point of view.
I need the new design people at Mercedes-Benz to really take hold of the way their cars look,
because I'm just finding them all the same. No, that's probably
crass, but that's how I feel. What about the insides? Well, the insides,
they're modern, aren't they? They are that. Modern, Germanic. I just want them to be too
derivative. I've got a downer on derivative at the moment. There's a Range Rover just coming
past. Yeah, a handsome car. Yeah, but it's got a green patch on the number plate suggesting it's
electric, but it can't be full electric, can it? No. It must just be a plug-in. Unless it's some kind
of prototype that we don't understand about. Yeah, but is he going into that fancy garage thing
behind us? But can you put a green thing on a plug-in hybrid? I don't think so.
It's making electric noises. Yeah, very electric noises. Gosh, we might have stumbled across something.
We stumbled across something. He's demonstrating that the Range Rovers need a fair bit of space
to manoeuvre that. Let's put it that way. Yeah. He's about to do a job on the bins behind. Look
was he? As long as he doesn't do a job on the back of this grenadier, we'll be all right.
Yeah, so anyway, so they've launched this or they're going to launch in July, aren't they? I
think this electric AMG GT, which is a five-metre-long four-door coupe, they'll call it, which has over
1,000 horsepower. I can't remember how much it costs, but it struck me that in its size and its
purpose and its ethos and how people will use it. It's probably the closest vehicle there is
to the upcoming Jaguar Type 01. Yeah. Because there are other fast, powerful electric cars,
I think, because there's the Porsche, there's the fast Porsche Taycan, but it's part of the
Taycan Range, isn't it? Yeah. And with things like the Lotus almost feel like a new brand,
for me as much as anything, because it's so far removed from everything else. Yes. But AMG sells
how many cars they do, 25,000 a year, something like that. Yeah. And this, you know, this is a,
it's still doing AMG things, but it's doing it with a different powertrain. And it struck me that
the Jaguar is doing jaguary things, but with a very different powertrain. Yeah. Or polarizing
design, maybe, but still, but still. But proportionally, they do read across very, very much, don't
they? Yeah. The Jag is even a bit longer, I think, but even so, I think it's a, you know,
me, your point in your column was a really good one that when we do start to drive it, we will
have a fairly good view of, you know, what a big sporty electric car feels like. Yeah. And we will
get the best idea we have yet, I think, of how well a car like that will sell. Yeah. Because,
you know, you could take a view on Taycan sales, you could take a view on
Lotus sales or Tesla Model S Plaid sales. Yeah. There's nothing quite like, I don't think,
there's nothing quite as close as this. Have you, do you know what's happening in this pub
right now, Steve? So the woman on the outside on the, just on the sort of porch outside the door
is an actor and she is playing the landlady of this pub. Oh. So, Paul Rog Tony inside,
who is the actual landlord. Yeah. Yeah. Who I think is, yeah, probably distraught that they're
not using him in the, the Ineos adverts. Yeah. But there's stuff on Ineos'
social channels. Yeah. Where she plays the landlady pub and she does it terrifically well.
Yeah. It's really good. I saw it on the socials. Yeah. It is great. Amazing voice.
Yeah. Brilliant stuff. Yeah. No, that is, that is on, yes, in Ineos' socials. That is a decent
watch, I think. And this is them and they're, you know, stressing the heritage, isn't it?
Yeah. Because I think, because I would imagine like in America, which is now Ineos' biggest
market, they must love the idea that one person just came up with this in a, a boozer in
London. Yeah. And it's a beautiful part of London and everything else. Yeah. Yeah. It is a, it is a,
it is a story to tell, isn't it? Yeah. And the best thing of all is it's just real. It happened.
Yeah. And the fivers on the, on the ceiling. Yeah. The Land Rover over it now. Say again. The Land
Rover over it now, do we think? Well, they, because they were quite cross for quite a long time.
Yeah. But they've got, they've got their, their defender success. They can always say,
look what we've done. You know, we've got a, we've got a vehicle so successful, we can't,
you know, we, we have trouble keeping up with the, the demand. Yeah. And we could other,
we could make other versions if we wanted to, but nobody wants us to. We can sell everything
we make. So I think they, they, they can do the haha routine. I thought I saw in a headline the
other day that Land Rover, because the MOD has opened up the tender process to replace
Land Rovers and Pins Gowers, which as we'll hear on this weekend's pod,
Ineos are going to pitch for. I thought I saw somewhere that JLR, we're also going to pitch
for that with a, by, by sort of restarting Land Rover production. Wow. I didn't know they would,
they would pitch for that. I cut my thing. I've read it in the times, but I don't know any more
than that. Gosh, you do. Because if that's true, that's, I should must follow up on that.
Yeah. You, you, you wonder about the economics, don't you? We kept on hearing that the reason the,
the traditional Land Rover had to go is because of the, the, the manufacturing procedure was just
too, um, tortuous and, you know, the factory with the dirt floor and that stuff. Um, so
it's a hard way to be. Yeah. I'd love to know more about that. Be honest. Yeah. Yeah. I'll follow up
on that. I'll try and find it again. This one just pulled up over there. He's already got a parking
ticket in the week. Maybe that's what you do around here. You just, you have a convenient
parking ticket. I leave it attached to the window. I remember watching these, these, um,
hooligans in the street one time and, you know, a load of people in the, in, you know,
in a London street have been booked. And what they did was go along the street, removed all the
tickets for the, from the people who'd been booked and put them on cars that hadn't been booked so
that it was going to cause serial trouble. That would be some consternation. Yeah.
You're listening to, to old blokes look at other cars from inside a car on the, this week's,
this week's podcast. Um, we've, we covered most of what I wanted to cover. I think they actually
done kick cars. I think we talked about the other day. That's in your column, isn't it? Yeah. We
touched on them the other day, but they proved you wrong. I think was the, your point in this
week's column. Well, the thing is, um, Tim Dutton is, is back in action with a, with a fifth iteration
of the Fayton, which was a car that was first new 86 years ago and he's already made 8,000 of them.
He's 78 years old and he's, and you know, I used to be a bit scathing about Dutton's because they're
not the, you know, in the front rank of beauty. But the fact is I had a Westfield at the time
and I thought I was a bit, bit, um, you know, I don't know, a bit superior, but Westfield
had gone and he's still going. He's still there. And, and the Fayton can be bought, it can be
built for 10 grand if you can find the, the donor bits and you know, they work. Good luck to him.
I can't remember what it was based on. Was it one particular vehicle or was it,
was it MX-5? I think he can do forward bits or MX-5 bits, I think.
But I, um, I think anything convenient almost. You've had a Caterham as well as Westfield, haven't
you? Yeah. Have you had more than one? No, just one Westfield and one Caterham. Right.
The Caterham's a car, yellow Caterham, built it when my boys were just learning to drive
and my... Oh, did you build it? No, no, no. I bought it from Paul Matty. Oh, yeah. The, the,
it was the car that my boys most resent my selling. Oh, really? Because I bought, I sold it to buy
Lotus 6. I thought your Lotus 6 being the first production Lotus you could buy with an
arthritic engine and a four-speed box and all that. And they just, they were just appalled by
this car with no brakes and a terrible gear change. Did you enjoy it? I, well, I, I did from the,
from the historic point of view, and of course it was one of these things with an all-aluminium
body, shiny body. Yeah. And it looked lovely. I, I looked like Buddha in the thing, but, but it was,
but it was, um, it was a beautiful car. Yeah. And, uh, shouldn't have sold it probably. It should be,
should be in the, in the barn containing 20 classics from the olden days. Yeah.
Ah, it'd be nice to keep everything, wouldn't it, in a way? Would be. More space, more space, time,
and, uh, money. Yeah. And a few, you know, just, just one or two custodians for your collection,
be perfect. Yeah, that'd be ideal. Uh, the distinguished gentleman's ride. Oh, I was in,
I gave my, my, I've got a, a Triumph 1200 twin version of the Bonneville called a Speedmaster,
which, um, um, and there's an event called the Distinguished Gentleman's Ride every year.
It's held, believe it or not, in a thousand cities around the world, started in Sydney.
And what happens is that you just get all your mates to sponsor you for, to, to go for a ride for
an hour with all these other people dressed in sort of tweed and strange hats and, you know,
jackets with leather arms and so on. But, but, uh, the idea is to raise money for
men's health charities and, and it, it raises tens of millions every year. And I was riding
along with all these people having a good time on these nice roads of the Cotswolds thinking,
wouldn't it be good to do something similar with four wheels? Because it effortlessly raises
huge sums. Yeah. It's funny you said it, mate, because I, uh, I was listening to
Chris Harris's podcast yesterday and Charlie Turner, our mate was on that. Oh, yes. He has
started a charity with a guy who founded a Movenba, I think, and I think it's called the
Recharge. And I think it does some of that stuff. If you're going anywhere in a car on four wheels
or something, you can, uh, you, there's, I think I've, there are ways to do it where you, where
you can raise a few. Which I thought was quite a cool thing. I think it is. I think it's, um,
the thing is we, you feel good because, um, because on the way you've done a bit of good,
you're having a good time with a, but load of people who are just like you and, and, uh,
you know, you put the bike away and you suddenly realize it's been useful. Yeah.
Have you ridden much yet this year? A bit. Yeah. Because of this trumpet is so easy to ride that,
um, I'm not very good at having difficult vehicles to get going with or in anymore,
but this, you just, you just sort of swing your leg over this thing or it starts very flexible.
You don't, you know, it's got a screen and a, you know, a nice relaxed riding position. So you
don't, it's, it's, it's not a big deal. So I just ride it around the neighborhood all the time.
Really. In fact, to this very event, I've, I rode my other bike, which is a electric BMW
called a CEO for, and it's parked around the corner in a way that you couldn't park around
the corner with, um, with a car, with a car. Yeah. With your, I think as you describe it,
your young person's crash helmet. Yeah. It's a good looking crash helmet. It's a good looking lid.
Well, the thing is the, the best thing about it is a bell helmet. So it's well made, but it,
and safe and all that, but it's, um, it, I bought it because the motorcycle dealership,
not far from my place, was going bust and they were just having it. So I think I paid a third of
the normal bell price. Oh really? Oh, that's good. Yeah. And as you say, it looks, if I, when I put
it on my head, they can't tell how old I am. I need, um, I don't need, do I need, I might, well
sort of, I wouldn't hurt to have a slightly brighter colored helmet for driving the Morgan
because it's that kind of dark green. Yeah. Um, and it's got, it's a bit reflective and it can take
on some of the sort of colors around it. I do wonder if it is less visible than it. And people
say they're low, don't they? Yeah, they are. So you, so if, if, yeah, if you, if it was yellow,
probably be a good white or something. Yeah. Yeah. But a classic looking one that contrasts nicely
with the, with the car, I think. I bet Morgan probably set you up with one, you know,
you know, in the excellent Morgan shop. The I did go to the Morgan
shop the other day and then you can wander down to the archive room, as they call it,
which has got the old stuff in school place. And you can just go, go any,
they're open all day. You just go have a cup of tea. It's the calf, isn't it? The calf's brilliant.
Yeah. Yeah. Um, and have a look around the show room. Other people have discovered this, haven't
we? On some visit there, we were told that they make a million quid a year out of visitors.
Yes. People arrive in, in, in coach loads these days. Yeah. And Caterham now do factory tours,
I think probably for that reason. Yeah. So, yeah, we haven't spoken to anybody from Caterham for a
while, have we actually? No, that's a good idea. Because there's the project V is under development
in Japan. Yeah. Um, we should find out what the latest sketches on that point of view really.
Yeah. Yeah. It's such a promising car. I love the styling of that car. Yeah. I'd, I'd, I'd love to
see it on the road. I think it'd be amazing. Yeah. I hope it sticks as close as it can to the,
to the shape concept because that was a good looking, really was looking thing. I mean,
there's sometimes you just end up with production cars being bigger and heavier and not quite as
true to the original, don't you? But yeah. Um, what are you up to the next week or two, Steve,
before, between this pod and the next one? Well, I think we've got, I always say this,
it seems to me, but we, we've got an awards ceremony coming along and I seem to have
been talking to awards winners a fair bit and they inevitably require you to
knock over a feature or two. So I'm, I'll probably, I'll probably spend a bit of time
with thrashing the keyboard, but, um, I like to get out and about at the moment.
Well, I'm out and about tomorrow until Monday because I'm seeing the new Ferrari Luce.
Oh, mate. Oh, brilliant. Is that for actual real in, in, in real things? So have we not,
what, what do we know about the exterior? This is the car that the interior of which was designed by
Johnny Ives. Love from, I believe the outside is the same.
And we don't know what it's like. We don't know. We've, we're still seeing heavily disguised ones
and we haven't been shown the pictures or anything yet. So that's going to be such a moment. The
embargo, embargo, I'm seeing the car on Sunday morning and then Sunday morning, talking to,
there's some round table, uh, technical round table interviews on Monday morning with the embargo
lifts Monday night. So by the time this pod comes out, the stories will be online.
Oh, mate. So if you want to know what it's like, you can go well.
I might give you a ring on Sunday morning.
Whoa, dear. It'll be so interesting to know what he's like as a car designer.
Hmm. I don't know if he's there actually for this because he was at the interior.
He was.
Reveal wasn't him. Will, uh, will rimmel our newsletter to talk to him there.
Yeah.
I don't know if he's going to be, um, around at this. I think there is a,
there is somebody from Love From to talk to him, but I don't know if it's, uh,
I hope it's him. Yeah, me too.
Because doing it, imagine doing a walk around with a new car with Johnny Ive.
That'd be amazing.
Yeah. But really interesting. So that's, that's to come. And then I'm around all of the following
week. And then by the time the next pod after this comes out, I'll have just driven a new
Toyota Hilux, I think, or I'll be in it.
Which is a hybrid.
I mean, that, that, but those things change world history, don't they? They, you know,
they inform what the UN does and all that kind of thing.
Yeah. Yeah. For regime changes on a budget Toyota is your go-to, is your go-to supplier.
Well said.
Um, that brings us about to the end of this week's pod, I think a little bit shorter than
usual, but that's, uh, that's been good fun.
There's a long interview at the weekend to come.
Such a good fun, um, sitting in this, this, um, muse
Lane, I guess it call it watching people come and go.
It's amazing.
It's good, isn't it? We should do it in a car more often.
So thanks for listening to us.
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Unreadable.
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From a chat outside the “Grenadier pub” to a deep dive into UK ZEV policy, the hosts bounce between brand stories and real-world motoring. They swap listener tips—like using a Ford F-250 Super Duty V10 for potholes—and compare media testing at Milbrook Proving Ground. The week also includes high-mileage ownership tricks (a 300,000-mile Prius refreshed via eBay) and hands-on impressions from new cars, from Mini Coopers to Morgan Supersport 400. Meanwhile, Ineos, Alpina, and upcoming EV GTs keep the future in focus.
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