BS Car Guys Oct 25, 2025

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Car

Toyota Land Cruiser

The Toyota Land Cruiser is a tough SUV that can handle rough terrains. The 80 Series is a specific version made in the 1990s, known for being reliable and good for off-roading.

Term

misfire

A misfire is when an engine doesn't work properly because the fuel isn't burning correctly in one of its parts. This can make the car run rough or lose power.

Part

fuel injector

A fuel injector is a part of the engine that sprays fuel into the engine to help it run. If it doesn't work well, the engine can have problems, like not starting or running rough.

Term

recall

A recall happens when a car company asks people to bring their cars back to fix something that could be dangerous or not working right. It's for everyone's safety.

Car

Toyota Tundra

The Toyota Tundra is a big truck that can carry heavy loads and is often used for work or outdoor activities. It's known for being tough and reliable.

Car

Toyota 200 Series

The Toyota 200 Series is a type of SUV known for being tough and good for off-road driving. Many people like it because it's reliable and has a lot of features that make it comfortable to drive.

Car

Toyota Land Cruiser 80 Series

The Toyota 80 Series is an older version of the Land Cruiser SUV that many people like for its strength and ability to handle rough roads. It's a favorite among off-road enthusiasts.

Car

Super Duty

The Super Duty is a type of truck made by Ford that is designed to handle heavy loads and tough jobs, making it popular for work and construction.

Term

PPI

A PPI is a detailed check of a car done by a mechanic before you buy it. It helps you find out if there are any hidden problems with the vehicle.

Term

pre-purchase inspection

A pre-purchase inspection is when a mechanic checks a car for problems before you buy it. It helps you know if the car is in good shape or if it needs repairs.

Car

Chevy Spark RS

The Chevy Spark RS is a small, budget-friendly car that is fun to drive. It's great for city driving and easy to park, plus it looks cute!

Car

Lexus NX 350

The Lexus NX 350 is a luxury SUV that is comfortable and has many high-end features. It's a good choice for those looking for a reliable and stylish vehicle.

Term

Carfax

Carfax is a company that gives you a report about a car's history. It tells you things like how many miles it has and if it has been in any accidents.

Term

L certified

L certified means that the car has been checked and approved by Lexus to be in good condition. It also comes with a warranty, so you can feel safe buying it.

Term

certified pre-owned

Certified pre-owned means that the car has been checked and is in good shape, often coming with a warranty. It’s a way to buy a used car with some extra assurance.

Car

Volkswagen Touareg

The Volkswagen Touareg is a luxury SUV that can handle rough terrain while providing a comfortable ride. It's known for its quality and features.

Car

The Dodge Charger is a big car that looks tough and can go really fast. The GT version is a sportier model that still has room for passengers and luggage, making it great for both fun drives and daily use.

Term

392 HEMI

The 392 HEMI is a powerful engine made by Dodge that gives cars a lot of speed and performance. It's often found in their sportier models.

Term

all wheel drive

All wheel drive means that all four wheels of a car get power from the engine at the same time. This helps the car grip the road better, especially in rain or snow.

Term

police package car

A police package car is a type of vehicle made for police officers. It has special features that help them do their job better, like faster engines and extra safety gear.

Term

rear wheel drive

Rear wheel drive means that the back wheels of a car get the power from the engine. This setup can make cars handle better, especially when driving fast.

Concept

Goodwood Revival

The Goodwood Revival is a fun car event in England where people race old cars and motorcycles. It's like a big party where everyone dresses up like they did in the past.

Concept

vintage automobile racing

Vintage automobile racing is when people race old cars that are usually more than 25 years old. It's a way to enjoy and celebrate classic cars.

Car

Honda Civics

The Honda Civic is a small car that many people like because it's dependable and saves on gas. It comes in different shapes, so you can choose one that fits your needs, whether you want a four-door or a sporty hatchback.

Car

Subaru BRZ

The Subaru BRZ is a small sports car that is fun to drive and has rear-wheel drive, which means the back wheels get the power. It's designed for people who enjoy driving.

Car

Toyota Supra

The Toyota Supra is a fast sports car that many people admire for its looks and speed. It's designed for driving fun and has a strong following among car lovers.

Car

Toyota GR Corolla

The Toyota GR Corolla is a sportier version of the regular Corolla, made for people who like to drive fast. It has a powerful engine and can handle well on different types of roads.

Car

BMW M2

The BMW M2 is a small, fast car that's built for people who love to drive. It has a powerful engine and handles really well, making it fun on both the road and the racetrack.

Car

BMW M3

Car

BMW M4

Car

Kia Forte

The Kia Forte is a small car that's stylish and affordable. It's a good option for people who want a comfortable ride without spending too much money.

Car

Volkswagen Jetta

The Volkswagen Jetta is a small car that’s good for everyday driving. It has a lot of space inside for people and their things, making it a great choice for families.

Car

Volkswagen Golf R

The Golf R is a really fast and powerful version of the regular Golf car. It has special features that make it better for driving quickly and handling well.

Term

DSG

DSG is a special kind of automatic transmission that shifts gears very quickly, making the car feel sportier and more responsive.

Car

Volkswagen I

The Volkswagen ID. Buzz is a new electric van that looks like the old VW Bus. It's designed to be roomy and good for the environment, making it a fun choice for families.

Car

Porsche 911

The Porsche 911 is a famous sports car that many people recognize because of its unique shape. It's really fast and luxurious, making it a dream car for many drivers.

Term

manual transmission

A manual transmission is a way to change gears in a car by using a stick and a pedal. It gives the driver more control over how the car drives compared to automatic transmissions.

Car

Porsche Boxster

Car

Porsche Carrera T

The Porsche Carrera GT is a super-fast sports car that looks amazing and is very powerful. It's a dream car for many people because of its performance and style.

Car

Porsche Cayman

The Porsche Cayman is a sporty car that drives really well and is fun to take on winding roads. It's similar to the 911 but usually costs less, making it a great choice for sports car fans.

Car

Volkswagen Golf

The Volkswagen Golf is a small car that’s easy to drive and has a lot of room inside for passengers and stuff. It's popular because it's reliable and fun to drive.

Car

Chevrolet C7

The C7 Corvette is a sports car made by Chevrolet that was built from 2014 to 2019. It's known for its powerful engine and sleek design, making it popular among car enthusiasts.

Car

Ford Mustang

The Ford Mustang is a classic American car that looks cool and goes really fast. It's loved by many for its powerful engines and sporty design.

Car

CT5-V Blackwing

The CT5-V Blackwing is a fast and luxurious car made by Cadillac. It has a strong engine and is built for performance, making it exciting to drive.

Car

Kia Soul

The Kia Soul is a small car that looks different because of its boxy shape. It's roomy inside and is great for people who want something practical and fun to drive.

Brand

Genesis

Genesis is a brand that makes luxury cars. It's part of Hyundai, which is a well-known car company from South Korea.

Car

Genesis G80

The Genesis G80 is a fancy car that is comfortable and has a lot of technology. It's made to compete with other luxury cars.

Car

Hyundai Veloster

The Hyundai Veloster is a small car that has a different look with three doors. It's designed to be sporty and fun to drive, making it stand out from other cars.

Car

Hyundai Elantra

The Hyundai Elantra is a small car that's easy on the wallet and comfortable to drive. It has a lot of features for the price, making it a smart choice for many people.

Car

Jeep Wrangler

The Jeep Wrangler is a tough-looking car that's great for driving off the road. People love it for its ability to handle rough trails and its fun, open-air design.

Car

Ford Bronco

The Ford Bronco is a cool SUV that looks a bit old-fashioned but is built for adventure. It's great for driving on rough trails and has lots of modern features.

Car

Jeep Gladiator

The Jeep Gladiator is a truck that can go off-road like a Jeep. It has a bed in the back for carrying stuff, making it useful for both work and fun.

Car

Land Rover Range Rover

The Range Rover is a fancy SUV that can handle rough roads and still feel comfortable inside. It's great for people who want a luxurious ride while being able to explore off the beaten path.

Car

Mazda Miata

Car

Acura Tsx

The Acura TSX is a small, fancy car that's fun to drive. It has nice features and is built to be reliable, making it a good choice for people who want a comfortable ride.

Car

Honda Prelude

The Honda Prelude is a two-door car that was sporty and stylish back in the day. People liked it for its fun driving experience and cool looks.

Car

Honda S2000

The Honda S2000 is a small sports car with two seats that is really fun to drive. It has a powerful engine that loves to go fast and handles well on the road.

Car

Porsche 356

The Porsche 356 is an old sports car that many people admire for its beautiful design. It's important in car history because it helped make Porsche famous.

LIVE

Good evening, Bill.

Good evening, Stanley. Hello, listeners. Welcome back to another episode of the BS Car Guys podcast.

It is October 10th as we record this and 10-10. How would you rate today? 10-10.

10-10.

Yeah, like Bill said, October 10th. It is the week following the biggest interview that we've ever had from one of our heroes.

And we're going to talk about that a little bit, and we're going to talk about some car stuff.

Awesome.

And Bill is probably going to say something wild, because that's what Bill does.

And I'm probably going to say something that I'm going to regret, because that's what I did.

There you go.

So in personal car news, some things to share.

Oh, personal car news. I got personal car news too.

All right. Well, mine's not all sunshine and rainbows.

The 80 Series Land Cruiser still down for the count.

It's had some ongoing issues over the last few weeks.

Really, it's been the last couple of months, like since right before we left on our big trip,

but I just have been too busy to fix it.

And determined today that it is most likely an injector causing my misfire on cylinder number four.

And if we have any listeners that are super familiar and knowledgeable with the 1-FZ-FE engine in the 80 Series Land Cruiser.

Well, first of all, if you are a listener and you're super knowledgeable, give me a shout out because I could use your help.

But if not, then you know that the injector for basically all the cylinders except for cylinder number one live underneath the intake and a bunch of vacuum lines and the EGR valve.

And it's just a absolute nightmare.

So I'm probably going to be trailering it somewhere and having a professional replace the injectors because I did the plugs in the wires and trouble shot to this point.

But now it's like beyond my skill set to fix in my driveway.

So it's going to have to go to somebody at this point.

I understand that. And as the CEO of BLS, Bill Cranford, Incorporated, CEO and owner, I think you can force that fix.

Also in the vein of 2025, this is a great opportunity to go test drive Toyota, new Toyota body or frame SUVs.

One in particular.

Speaking of which, I was seated week before last, maybe two weeks ago, something like that.

I was seated in a Starbucks in Columbia, South Carolina for a work trip and a gentleman approached me wearing a Toyota jacket, very nice Toyota jacket.

And commented on my Haas apparel and asked if I was with the F1 team. So that started a conversation.

Wow, they thought you were with the F1 team?

Well, all my clothes say F1, Haas F1 on it.

I'm about to say, wow, that guy is warped.

He needed to work on his judgment of something. He needed to work on something.

So most of our stuff is branded with the team, the race team. So yeah, it always brings up those conversations.

And if they don't buy that I'm the backup driver, then we talk about what I really do.

Both of us are too fat to be any kind of driver for a F1 team.

And probably too tall.

So, but we got to talk about his job and his job is to travel around and do like factory related assessments, dealerships of cars.

So like stuff that might be warrantied and beyond the dealership or recall stuff or potential recalls or something like that.

And so we started having a conversation. He was driving a brand new Tundra.

And we had a pretty in depth and enjoyable disagreement about the new Land Cruiser.

So he was a fan and thought that there was a chance he would convince me to be a fan, but he was unsuccessful.

So anyway, but speaking of Toyota's in my life.

Wait, I'm out first. All he had to do is call me and I would have told him that he was going to knock.

He was not going to convince you to like a perfectly good vehicle.

But anyway, continue.

So speaking of Toyota's products, I think I don't want to jinx myself here.

But I think Kendra is right on the cusp of being ready to consider a 200 series.

Oh, really?

So I have been looking at some options and trying to find some that are lower mileage and in our price range, which there are not many, but looking nonetheless.

So maybe if sometime in the next several months, an opportunity presents itself, then maybe I can get her into one.

But I think it's going to require us getting the 80 series first fixed first and seeing how much that winds up costing because that's probably going to delay the process.

So maybe spring of next year, you know, strong Q1 possibility.

Or just hear me out.

Or you can just go get a new one.

Yeah, I'm going to do that.

I have a brand new super duty on the driveway.

So you are American in 2025.

And you are a corporate gentleman.

She is a corporate lady.

Both of you are professionals.

But no, we don't have no, no, no, no.

We have been it had been 12 years since we had a car payment.

Get going back to a new car payment is pretty painful.

I'm for sure not doing two of them.

Also, I know both of you.

So I also know that you don't have to have a car payment if you really don't want to.

So also, okay.

So last thing last thing in my car news.

Okay.

All right.

Now, this one's going to be.

This one's going to be a little different.

What do you do?

I'm going to tell you a number.

I'm only going to give you a four digits of a number.

That's a much longer number.

But that number is.

3233.

You might ask yourself, what, what is the relevance of those four numbers?

Well, those four numbers are the last four digits.

Of my reservation number for a scout traveler.

That's right.

Look at you.

I did a reservation for an EV.

Look at you.

It's only your second time that we're not going to talk about the first.

Cause that didn't happen.

This one may also not happen, but.

Hey, that's the point of a reservation.

You can back out of it anytime.

I am.

I am diligently working.

At multiple levels, including commenting on basically every single social media post.

Scout puts out.

I am diligently working on making a connection.

At Scout for, for two reasons.

One, my job and two for us to try to get me.

You know, some, some access to checking out one of these new scouts for the podcast.

And for my reservation to find out if it's worth keeping the reservation or not.

Cool.

I mean, this always been a dream of ours to be able to actually test drive some newer

vehicles and give our first hand opinions of them.

And I mean, if you can make it happen, you can make, if anybody can make it happen

there, I know you can probably make it happen because first of all, you had to

get forgave.

You are a likable person and people like you.

I don't.

Gee, Stanley, you're very attractive.

Thank you for the compliments.

I didn't say that part.

Well, I wanted to talk about car news.

I guess I got a little bit of car news last episode.

I alluded to a little bit of a accurate text that I was looking at.

Yeah.

That was an automatic that is local.

That vehicle is still there.

Okay.

I didn't, I purchased it because of some things that are going on in the world.

We don't need to get in all that.

I decided to hold up a little bit where I spend my money.

I also found a, a, the one, the local one is the 2008, which is the last model year

of that generation.

The first model year of that generation is 2004.

I found a 2005 in the backside of Virginia.

That was a manual with like 25,000 last miles.

So you tell me if I'm being unreasonable, unreasonable.

You are a car dealership, correct?

Yep.

I call you.

I get on auto trader or whatever.

Auto trader, if you'd like to sponsor us, go ahead.

You know, send us up for the email.

Get an auto trader and I send a message to him saying, hey, I'm interested in this vehicle.

They don't call me back.

I end up calling them talking to the young man and I said, hey, I am not local.

What I need you to do is if you would like me to buy this car is I need an independent PPI.

I don't want nobody who is affiliated with your company to do this PPI.

So take it to whatever Honda dealership, whatever Acura dealership, let them run the gambit on this car.

I will pay for it.

Yep.

They send a report to me.

I'll make a decision on this car.

If everything checks out right, I'll drive up there and pick it up.

Does that sound unreasonable?

No, it sounds very reasonable to me.

Why come?

I said that on purpose.

Oh, we just went real South Carolina.

Why come?

These people decided that that was an they didn't say it was an unreasonable request, but they

insist on using some people who they use, which they use the local name of a place.

But this is a good year affiliate.

And I was like, hey, man, I just told you I need an independent PPI.

And they said, all right, cool.

We're going to go get the PPI.

I was like, all right, cool.

I will pay for it.

I mean, when you send it, I will raise it.

I will do it.

Right.

They didn't call me back for two days.

There's now the question is, does that sound like somebody who wants to sell a car?

No, in fact, it actually sounds to me like they maybe had a lead on somebody wanting

to buy it that was local.

And they thought they could move it faster and not have to do anything for you.

Correct.

I felt that way.

That's the feeling I was getting in that at the same time.

I was like, hey, car dealerships, because I've had to deal with a couple car dealerships

here locally recently.

We'll get to that.

Hey, if you want to sell your car, you may want to do reasonable things that

the customer asks.

Yeah.

Especially if it's a non-local person getting an independent PPI that they are

saying, they are, I was like, I will pay for this.

Right.

I don't think that's unreasonable.

I do not either.

But what I'm not going to do is trust you to do this because I don't know you.

But I also, but I know that BS Honda or SB Acura can be held to account.

You know, but yeah, they didn't want to sell me that car evidently.

But that wasn't manual.

I will readdress that situation once I finish selling you by the Acura situation

once I tell you about this.

Okay.

So, Faith, my daughter made a decision on a car.

Whoa.

She is currently driving said car.

Oh, she bought it.

She bought a car.

I told you before that this is her first car like us.

Our parents and the people around us who had better judgment probably told us at

some point to not buy the first car that we bought.

Right.

However, it was our decision and sometimes we just got learned license that way.

She bought a 2019 Chevy Spark RS.

It is a nice little car.

And she only paid $9000 for it.

Okay.

She's driving.

She thinks it's the cutest car in the world.

And she's all giddy and I'm happy for it.

And when things happen, I'll be here.

What more can you ask for?

Exactly.

Last bit of personal card news is why is it in the middle of all of this,

everything that is going on in the world, this whole Acura situation,

my daughter buying her first car situation.

My wife wants it.

She has decided what car she wants for her next vehicle.

Oh.

She wants a Lexus and X 350.

And that's one of the ones we had discussed, right?

It is.

The Genesis is a little bit out of the price range.

The Lexus is in the price range.

And I'm going to run a scenario by you.

I want to tell you if this would give you pause.

Okay.

It is 2025, almost 2026.

That's correct.

Lexus, local Lexus dealerships has a Lexus in X with 90% of the features

that you want in the vehicle that you want not need in the vehicle.

But it is used.

It is a 2022, but it has 4,370 miles on it.

Wow.

Would that give you pause?

Not for that vehicle in the area where you live.

Now, I looked at the car facts.

There is a mileage discrepancy by 2,000 miles on it.

Because it got serviced somewhere, it said at 6,000 or some change.

And then they got it and it was right back at four.

And I was like, there's a little bit of mileage discrepancy.

Hey, what happened to this vehicle?

Why did somebody not want this vehicle at the 4,000 miles in three years?

What is going on?

However, we still may buy it.

It feels like, I mean, because it's L certified and it's going to be fully bagged on a warranty for the next three years.

I think if there was anything about the mileage that gave Lexus pause,

it wouldn't be a certified pre-owned.

Correct.

Well, I just thought it was weird.

I was like, why does this thing have 4,000 miles in three years?

This is weird.

Again, I think where you live, it is entirely possible for a person to purchase a brand new vehicle or lease a brand new vehicle and only put that many miles on it in three years.

And it's very much an old lady car.

You thought of me or my wife or old lady, which one?

Well, no, I mean to buy a new.

Buying or leasing a brand new.

There's a popular, I'm not saying that every single person who has one is an old lady.

I'm saying that it's a vehicle that is maybe sought out by women of a certain generation.

I agree with you.

It is a vehicle in the vein of life that we want to be in, that we so desperately want,

which is our children are wrong.

We want a car that we do not have to worry about ever.

That's right.

And if we need to take it in for anything, they're going to give us another car to drive.

So we're not without a car.

And that's how we want to rock out.

It makes sense.

Yeah.

One day you'll get there.

It may be in about 15 years.

Yeah, maybe so.

But yeah, I guess that was our personal car stories right there.

Oh, also my son bought in a.

You remember when we built chargers wheels looking for charges.

It was a couple of years ago.

We found all these chargers owned like that were police cars and everything.

Yes.

So one of them, my son, my eldest son, he bought it.

He traded in his Volkswagen Turek.

Not Turek.

What's his one?

Take one.

He got himself a charger.

It is a GT.

So it is the V6, but it is it's not the one he wanted because he wants a 392,

but he can't afford that yet.

So he got this one and it is one of our favorite colors.

That copper color thing.

That.

Okay.

Yeah.

And he decides to.

He did.

He just goes and does this without, you know, letting anybody as if he needs to let

anybody know.

And then comes, pulls up on my driveway.

I was mad.

I tell you, sir.

I was mad.

I was like, why did he do go buy a car that I want?

I'm cool with you buying all the cars that I don't want.

But you can't go by the ones that I want.

I mean, you know, you can probably help put the idea in his head that that was a

good, good car to buy.

So, you know, that probably led to him looking at it seriously.

Yeah.

So is it a police package car with all wheel drive or is it a real

wheel drive?

It is all wheel drive, but it is not a police package car.

Okay.

Well, at least being all wheel drive, you don't have to worry

about him participating in any intersection takeovers.

I would not put that past my other son.

He is an immature 31 year old and I love him to death.

Well, but he bought, he bought all wheel drives.

That thing ain't doing no donuts.

Yeah.

He might not do the donut, but he's going to be in the crowd.

Okay.

Well, that we can't control.

Yeah.

But yeah, I guess I saw the personal car news and now I guess we're

going to a couple other things that maybe I want to talk about

and a couple of things that Bill want to talk about one to

include the interview that we did last week.

Yeah.

We missed the Derek D.

I know for me, that was, I think our highest achievement

thus far when it comes to us doing a podcast.

Derek D is one of our idols, at least one of mine.

He's one of yours from a comedian standpoint from a car

culture standpoint.

And I mean, just being a dude, I was pleasantly surprised that he

was the dude that we saw on the show.

He was 100% that guy.

And I mean, they tell you sometimes, you don't want to meet your

heroes because they will disappoint you.

I was not disappointed.

Right.

And I would know what you thought about it.

Yeah.

I was really impressed getting to talk to Derek and him taking

the time to do an interview with us was really awesome.

Yes.

Thank you, Derek.

Yeah.

And any potential future opportunities that may or may not

come from that, I'll be super appreciative of that always.

I think that, you know, thinking about the interview and the

whole idea of doing the interview, I meet with people pretty

regularly for work that are at pretty high levels in their

respective fields.

And I meet people that I know going into the conversation.

I'm talking to somebody who's worth far more than me and has

more influence in a larger circle than I'll probably ever have.

And but I'm generally not like nervous or intimidated.

But talking to Derek was one of those things that because we

had talked about it for so long about, you know, Fastlane

daily, even before, you know, kind of excluding our podcast,

just in general talking about episodes of the show as they

aired back in the day.

And, you know, kind of looking at Derek as somebody was like,

you know, that is a job that I would love to have that

kind of opportunity to be able to talk about cars,

joke around about cars, express your feelings about cars

and a creative outlet.

You know, that's, I mean, that's kind of what we try to strive

for here.

So, you know, I think a lot of that is based on the content

of those shows that we watched, not just Fastlane daily,

but, you know, plenty of others as well.

And so getting to meet him and kind of like you said,

confirming that he is a regular guy, he's a car guy,

you know, wasn't just an acting gig.

It was something he was very passionate about.

And honestly, even to hear him say, you know, him and

AK are both still very passionate about not allowing

somebody to come in and take what they've created

and built, even though it's been dormant, you know,

for almost 10 years, still not allowing somebody else

to come in and do the wrong thing with it, you know.

And that shows a level of respect for what they created

that they still have for it, but also like a pride in

what they, I don't know, I mean, just poured their

selves into for almost 10 years, you know.

So I don't know, to me, it was a pretty cool opportunity

to get to talk to him.

I certainly would enjoy talking to him more, you know,

and if there's an opportunity ever to do any more stuff

with Derek or like I said, anybody else that, you know,

he knows from those times at Fastlane daily,

then certainly would welcome that opportunity.

And we're probably just as nervous to talk to anybody

else from there as well, but I'd still do it.

I mean, it's still awesome.

Yeah, 100%, man.

I, again, pleasantly surprised to find out that he was

that guy that we all that don't watch every day

because Fastlane daily for about, you know, for 2300 episodes,

2300 plus episodes.

And I mean, genuine dude, man.

I mean, he's going through some stuff like him right now,

him and AK, and I pray for him because I do that

and I hope he gets through this.

And maybe one day we can do this, that podcast,

a revision of that podcast in person.

Maybe AK can be there.

Maybe some other people could be there.

I'm not above driving it.

Right.

Doing a car pool today on New Jersey, you know,

and hanging out on the beach in New Jersey

and having a live podcast and, you know,

whatever comes from it.

I just hope he continues.

He's able to continue to be who he is.

And I will cherish that moment.

I think I thought it was awesome.

And even though you say you was nervous, a little nervous,

it didn't show.

It didn't show.

You were doing your normal bill.

Well, I appreciate that.

You know, I mean, like most things,

I go into them overly confident.

I think that's a Marine Corps trait.

It is.

But so I could be nervous on the inside and overly confident

on the outside, I guess.

Absolutely.

We perfect that in the Marine Corps.

It's called boot camp.

That's right.

That's exactly right.

What we're going to do right now is we're going to

hang over the side of this tower with a rope

and you're going to dagger a job off it.

Wait.

There's no way.

Oh, I mean, look, that was one of my favorite days

in boot camp.

I was not ready.

I was not ready for that or jumping off the tower

for the first time.

But anyway, not Marine Corps stuff.

But anyway, Derek, we're praying for you.

AK, we're praying for you.

If you are ever wanting to link up, just let us know.

Reach out.

You got our stuff.

And if you're listening to this right now,

please go to Derek's website.

The link is in the description of the last podcast

or just Google Derek D.

And check out what he's doing right now.

He is much more than just a fan-themed daily host.

He is a full-fledged actor, voice actor.

He has his own stuff.

I think he won a, what did they call it, a webby?

A webby?

Webby.

Yeah.

I mean, check the dude out, man.

It's important.

He's out there doing this thing,

trying to support himself in his life,

just like everybody else.

He's a dude.

That's right.

And he's a car dude, right?

Car dude.

Absolutely.

And if you follow us on Facebook,

you can check out my post on there.

I did a link, his website,

and then his social media as well.

So as well as the link to the episode,

if you haven't listened to it.

So go check it out if you haven't.

Cool.

One good follow-up question.

Is there somebody else that's alive?

Because I know who it is if it wasn't,

if we can talk to somebody who has passed.

What I think I do anyway,

that you would like to interview.

I know I have one.

Yeah.

I think it's tough.

I have a pretty big list of people

that I think would be pretty awesome

from the automotive content world

to interview for the podcast.

But I think the top of my list would probably

have to be Jason Camisa.

I knew you were going to say that.

I think it'd be tough.

I think it's between him and Chris Harris.

But I think Chris does enough

like this level conversational level

car topics that I would struggle, I think,

to have a ton of good, interesting questions

that people have already asked him.

And yeah, I don't want to be redundant.

And I haven't seen Camisa on a ton of stuff.

So he would probably be the top of my list for that reason.

Then Chris Harris.

And then for all the same reasons why Chris is number two,

number three would probably be Matt Farah.

But he also has done a thousand podcast episodes

and has so many YouTube episodes

that pretty well have a good understanding

of what his opinions about cars are.

That being said, it would still be cool

to talk to him and hear his story.

100%.

For me, I have two that come to mind.

One, you are very familiar,

you should be very familiar with the other,

maybe not so much by number one person

who I would love to have on this podcast one day

or just to have a conversation with.

They don't even have to be recorded.

It's John Davis, the host of another week.

He was essentially my introduction to cars, period.

I have been watching that show on and off

since 1987.

He has been the host since 1978, I believe it was.

That's crazy.

He came from like news, like regular news back in the day

or like a weather beat or something like that

or just a reporter in Maryland.

He was passionate about cars,

came up with a crazy idea,

pitched through Maryland Public Television

and they've been doing it the whole time.

The TV show that was on PBS, to YouTube, to podcasts,

I mean, that dude in my mind is goat of goats

when it comes to cars, journalism stuff.

I mean, as they say in the show,

it is the original television magazine, car magazine.

There's some version of that.

The second person who you probably are way more familiar with

and I just think this would be fun and interesting

and it would never happen.

It is Ludacris.

Now, that's a really interesting choice, right?

What is his last name?

Chris, Bridges?

Bridges, I think so.

A lot of people don't know, started out as a radio DJ,

I think in Florida, right?

No, Atlanta.

He's from St. Louis but he became known in Atlanta.

Yeah, I think and definitely a car guy

but a unique perspective on being a car guy, right?

I don't know, I think I would get along with him real well

because I don't think he's as big a new car guy

as some other celebrities.

He likes his stuff, he's had for forever, like he's accurate.

Exactly, if y'all don't know, he had an accurate

that he got when he first started doing radio

and he still has it to this day.

He will not get rid of that car if I understand correctly

and if you did get rid of that car for whatever reason,

Chris, Ludacris, Bridges, you can just let us know

and you can just come over here and tell your story, man

and we can talk about old accuracy

because I'm a fan of old accuracy too.

Yeah, I think he had, it was restored maybe by accurate

if I'm not mistaken.

I mean, if I was the head of accurate, I would do it.

Oh, yeah, for sure. That's a good PR, right?

Absolutely.

Yeah, that's a good pick, man.

I mean, I guess there are other people

that I would want to talk to as well.

I mean, if we were just talking like flat-out celebrities

that are also car people, that's a big list.

And the reason I picked Ludacris,

because I mean, when you're a celebrity

and you have the amount of money

and notoriety that that guy has,

you can almost have any car,

but he does it.

He just has the things that he likes,

not the things that everybody else likes

if I understand it correctly.

I think that is a sign of who he is.

It's like, I don't want what everybody else got.

I want what I want because I think it's cool.

Right.

Okay, so since you threw out Ludacris,

I'm going to throw out my more obscure car person

that I would love to interview.

Are you ready for this?

Yeah.

Rowan Atkinson, Mr. Bean.

Really?

Yes.

That dude is a big-time car guy.

Really?

And he has not missed a Goodwood revival

that I know of in 15 years.

I mean, he races regularly in vintage automobile racing.

And while he's not super competitive with the guys

that are out there that race professionally,

he still has a passion for it and loves doing it.

And like I said, is a very good car dude

who's famous for everything other than being a car guy.

So I would, that would be really how I'm on a list of,

like quote unquote famous people from,

let's say from the wings, right?

Yeah.

That are maybe outside that mainstream famous quote unquote,

but that are definitely car dudes.

He would be top of my list for that.

I just had a wild card that just came to my mind just now.

And I don't know where he ranks on the list,

but it would be cool to talk to this dude, Stacey David.

Oh, that guy.

Dude of the host of every car show on Spike's T and N

and then all the other gear, all the things, man.

He just, I don't know.

I don't know who he is in real life, but he was, I mean,

I watched all of them shows.

I mean, it would change the name of the show.

It would be the same show, but slightly different.

I'll watch it too because it was all.

I think the show only ever changed because of the sponsors.

Yeah.

In the channel because it was TNT, then it was Spike,

and then it was something else that I don't know what it is now.

But yeah, man.

There's a couple of people out there that would be really cool.

And yeah, speaking of really cool things.

So Bill, you did a thing that, well, I guess it's still recently.

You accepted and accomplished the goal of finding a shopping

for a transmission.

Yes.

It is in your driveway.

Yes.

You've made a Hot Wheels car of it.

Yes.

And which is cool.

But I had, I was just in my search of doing this and I'm still

not decided on what I'm going to do or how I'm going to do it.

But I was just looking, I saw a video on donut and then I started

doing a little bit of research.

I'm going to ask you a couple questions about this and this is

not to embarrass you.

I just wonder if you know, because I didn't know how many cars

in 2025 that you think you could get a manual with.

11.

Wrong.

You were short.

The answer is 26.

There were 26 cars that you can get with the manual.

Now, you, you did.

Now, I was going to say it.

Models or trims.

It's 24 that is 24 different models, but two of them I figured

I think they were different enough that I separated the two

different trims that you can get.

So if there are, you said 11.

I'll tell you those two.

Let's see if you can get how many you can get.

So the two that I figured that were close enough.

My bad.

It was 27.

They were close enough.

Nope.

I put it on there.

I apologize.

That's the civic SI and the civic type R.

I separated those two, even though they're still civics and

the Integra and the Integra type S.

I separated those two because they're still about even though

they're still integral, I think they're different.

All four, all four of those is one car.

Exactly.

I understand.

I get what you're saying.

We could have done that.

Okay.

So I'm going to see how close to this 11 I actually get.

Yeah.

Let's see if you can get it.

What was that?

27?

26.

So that just dropped by three.

So that's 23 now.

I'm keeping count.

I'm highlighting the ones that we talked about just now.

So let's see how many of these you can you get?

Can you name 11?

Can I name 11?

Yeah.

Let's say 10 because you're weird.

Let's see 11.

All right.

The base model SR5 Tacoma four cylinder.

Correct.

You can get that.

Okay.

The, the Grady six BRZ combo.

That is one vehicle, which you have it as two.

Actually, I did not have that as two.

Did I?

Nope.

I did not have that as two because that is no different.

But okay.

Go ahead.

That's.

Okay.

And then the Supra.

Three.

Okay.

Anything else from Toyota that offers a manual, the GR Corolla.

All right.

Four.

I don't think there's anything else from Toyota.

I think that's it.

All right.

So then BMW.

You got.

You got M2 M3 M4.

Probably.

Yeah.

Probably all the CSS.

All the CSS.

Right.

They're all there.

I think the CSS is the only version of those right that you can get with a manual.

Is that right?

No, it's actually the.

It is the base M3 and M4 that you can get with the manual.

The CSS you can't.

Okay.

Got it.

All right.

What is it that Kia has?

Is it the Forte GT?

Nope.

You can't get the Forte with a manual?

Nope.

Because first of all, they don't sell the Forte anymore.

Oh.

But does Kia have a manual?

No.

Okay.

So I'm just off on that.

All right.

It's 2024.

That would have been a valid answer.

Oh, I'm a boomer.

Okay.

Well, let's go.

Let's go to.

Volkswagen.

You can get the GTI.

And the Jetta GLI.

No, you cannot get the GTI, but you can get a Jetta GLI.

You can't get a GTI manual anymore.

2025 to sell the GTI, sir.

Hey, I didn't realize it was gone.

The R is the R still a thing.

The R is a thing, but you can't get a manual.

Well, that's what I thought.

That was DSG only.

Okay.

So the Jetta GLI.

That'd be the only Volkswagen I can think of.

All right.

Yeah.

I'm also keeping count.

All right.

So let's go.

Let's go Porsche.

You can get a Boxster in a manual and you can get a 9-11 in a

manual.

Correct.

I think currently there's only one of each that's available

with a manual this year.

All right.

So you're going to say Boxster and 9-11.

Do you want to put all together?

No, because there are two totally different platforms.

That's what I said.

All right.

So are you going to leave Porsche now?

That's a better question.

Yeah.

I don't think they have anything else that's a manual.

All right.

So I'm going to not allow you to use any other Porsches

because the Carrera T, you can get it in a manual.

And in the GT3, you can get it in a manual, which they both

have 9-11s.

I don't think either of us would say those are the same car.

No, those are definitely not the same car.

I mean, that's a good point.

For some reason, I was thinking that this year you,

the currently the GT3 with a manual was not available.

It may, according to our car and driver at Motor Week,

they said you could.

They went out of the places that I love.

And if we fact check that on the Porsche website,

I think right now the T is the only model with a manual

you can get.

OK.

So would you call the Boxster and the Cayman the same car?

Yeah.

OK.

So all right.

Yeah, those are the same car.

That's going to count.

It's the same engine, same transmission.

OK.

Coincidentally, buying either one of those cars with a manual

is not the wisest decision unless you're prepared to have

the gearbox like redone because the gearing is so long

it's ridiculous.

The Volkswagen AG in general is weird about manuals.

My sixth gear in my Golf R is too short for a sixth gear.

And every other gear preceding it is too long for what it is

except for first.

First gear is the only gear that's rational.

And it gets you to about 25 to 28 miles an hour.

And then you're shipped in the second.

Second will take me to like 52 at redline.

Third will take me to 80.

I would have figured they would have tried to get 60

in the first two gears because that's how Chevy did it

in the C7 Corvette.

They made that gear long enough that you got the 62 miles

by the first gear.

OK.

So you wouldn't have to.

So you wouldn't lose that time on the ship.

So that gets me to 10.

Number 11 Ford Mustang.

OK.

Good to go.

Are you going to try to get them off?

I'm going to go for there's currently a.

Are they still selling the CTV black wings four and five?

Yes, they are.

Well, that's different.

That's two different engines and trans is so that I count

both of those.

OK.

I don't think there's anything else from GM and a manual

right now.

Can you you can't get a Corvette in a manual.

Can you?

No, you can't.

I didn't think so.

Do they they don't offer a manual in anything else?

OK.

So let's move on from there.

Can't think of a Mercedes currently with a manual.

Can you?

Can you still?

Right now you have a 13.

Can you get a Kia Soul with a manual?

No, you can't.

Not no more.

OK.

What else is there?

And we'll be discontinuing in 2026, which I think I

think somebody should pull out a little liquor in the

words of Tupac for that.

Fair enough.

All right.

What else am I missing?

I will tell you there is one on here that I just did.

I went straight past my head and.

But all the other ones on here, you know.

Who else?

That's for WRX.

Yep.

WRX.

OK.

Let's see who else has a manual currently.

Man.

Nissan, the.

Proto Z 400 Z.

Yeah.

Z whatever it is.

Yep.

OK.

There is an obvious one that you are just.

Admitting from your memory right now.

An obvious one.

Obvious.

When I say when you get it, when you say it, or I have

to say it, you're going to want to slap yourself.

It is that obvious.

I wish I had the Japanese music.

I'm going to try to find the Japanese music and play

it.

I have faith in you, Bill.

I have faith in you.

There are six left.

Six left.

And just just so our listeners know I'm not.

I don't even have the internet open.

I'm not.

This is this is me really trying to rack my brain here

and think about what I'm missing.

Also, when I say this, this whole list.

Is comprised of cars that you could actually buy.

I'm sure there's some manual, something out there

that we can't buy that none of us can afford.

But to be honest.

Is there anything?

Is there anything that I'm missing from.

The six cars left for brands.

KDM group like a Genesis or.

Okay.

They're the G is the 80 or the 70.

Is the car, right?

No, Genesis.

I used to come with a manual, but it does not anymore.

Excuse me.

So what do they have that's a manual?

I can't think of what Genesis has as a manual.

You said KDM, so it's in the KDM.

Oh, so so not not Genesis, not.

Not Kia.

As you said, not Kia.

So that only leaves Hyundai.

So the the Veloster is still a car.

Veloster is not a thing anymore.

Cool car.

Weird car.

Not a thing anymore.

But that engine lives on.

What does Hyundai still make that's not a weird electric car?

It looks like a bad dream from the 80s.

Hyundai actually is doing a pretty good job of the thing that we

I think we agree with, which is selling internal natural

aspirated internal combustion engines turbocharged combustion

engines, hybrids plug in hybrids.

Do they have a car other than the Veloster?

Yeah.

They have several cars other than the Veloster.

I'm telling you, Hyundai embodies that that that that that

What do they have?

That that thought that that premise that is like, hey,

build them all, build it on the same chassis because you

could design a chassis that can incorporate all this stuff.

Taylor Taylor your production to what people actually buy.

Hyundai is it an Elantra in the Hyundai Elantra in.

Okay.

Well, I really racked my brain to come up with the name of a

Hyundai car.

Okay.

So that gives me to a 16.

Not counting the Honda four group that you started with.

I count that as one, then that's 17.

Five left three brands.

Five left four brands.

Man.

That's really tough.

Who am I missing?

Good grief.

What brands am I missing?

I'm telling you, there's an obvious one and then there that

you're going to want to slap yourself for and then

there's two that you are definitely like, why did I not

know that?

Or I knew, but yet I know that.

Why could I not think of it in the moment?

Dodge doesn't make anything with a manual currently.

Do they?

Nope.

They do not.

What brands am I missing?

I'm like, that's where I'm right.

Oh, okay.

All right.

I got a layup on Jeep Wrangler.

Correct.

Jeep Wrangler and then under that same guy as the Ford

Bronco.

Correct.

Okay.

I was the SUV thing.

I hadn't even, I was like, I was like, what am I missing here?

But that's what it is.

Okay.

So that gives me those two.

You're not counting the gladiator as its own thing.

Nope.

And you can't get it with a manual anymore.

Okay.

That makes sense.

Three cars left two brands.

Good gracious.

I'll give you, I gave you a hint on one of them.

The one that's the hardest probably.

Do I really want a hint?

I don't know if I want a hint.

Okay.

Man.

I'll give you a hint that that covers all three, which is

probably just going to frustrate you.

So I just feel like.

Oh, that's even better.

Yeah.

Let's do that.

All three cars have Japanese designs, powertrains and

transmissions.

Okay.

So Mazda three.

Okay.

Two wheel drive, front wheel drive base car.

Actually it's not the base one.

It is the top of the line that to get the manual and

the Mazda three, you got to do the accurate thing.

You have to get the most expensive non turbo car to

have the option of the six speed.

Again, that's just stupid.

Nobody should buy that car.

I don't care how good the transmission is until Mazda

learns what people actually want.

Nobody should buy that car.

Okay.

And I would tell the head of Mazda North America if he

was on the podcast.

All right.

So that's 20.

You got two cars left.

So who am I missing from Japan?

I got.

You are going to slap yourself literally when I have

to tell you this.

I got Nissan.

Toyota.

I got Honda.

I got Mazda.

I got Subaru.

Who is left from Japan?

Two brand, two cars left.

Two brands left.

And they're both Japanese.

No, I didn't say they were both Japanese company.

Both of them have power trends and transmissions

that have our Japanese in origin.

But we already covered all the BMW cars of the manual.

Both of them have relationships with the second largest

automobile maker on the planet.

Integral relationships.

I don't know who else I'm missing.

It's driving me crazy.

We got BMW.

We got Porsche.

Mercedes is about said something not appropriate.

Mercedes is stop making fun cars.

Is there anybody else in Germany left?

I don't think so.

Got Japan.

Is there anybody in England?

Is many offer a manual currently?

Many does not offer a manual.

And many is owned by BMW.

Right.

No, but not in America anyway.

And Jaguar doesn't offer anything with a manual.

Jaguar doesn't even build cars at this point.

They are a lifestyle brand and a commentary on

modern cultural relativism.

Okay.

They said that and I don't believe that part either.

Yeah, you would be both.

And because if they did make that, it would also be broken.

Let's see Land Rover.

Range Rover doesn't have anything manual.

One of them is an icon and will forever be an icon.

The other is just an iconic brand.

Hmm.

You want to make a car faster, make it lighter.

Oh, Lotus.

That makes sense of why I would have a relationship with Toyota.

So I didn't even realize Lotus was still making cars.

So they're still making a car.

Yep.

The Lotus and Mira is actually not the most expensive car on this list.

And it is a Honda.

Toyota that go 3.5 liter v6 with a manual transmission

sitting in the back.

And they make it faster by putting the supercharged on.

It is the is the last one aerial item.

No, no, no, it's not.

What the heck?

You know what, I don't even want you to guess this and I want the

satisfaction of telling you what this is.

So I can see you be upset with yourself.

I'm definitely looking at you right now.

Mazda Miata.

Hmm.

Yeah, definitely should have got that.

The sports car icon.

Yeah, I mean, why was that?

I bet there are some people listening who are yelling at their devices.

Oh, man.

I mean, if you're looking for the definition of overthinking it.

Yes, yes, yes.

That might have been what you just saw.

The crazy thing is, if you're honest with yourself, if you're

your car dude, unless you own a Miata, that would have been

the car you would have overlooked anyway.

Because even car people overlook how fun and how much of a sports car

in the in the vein of sports cars that that car is.

Yeah, for sure.

I mean, if you can fit it, if you could.

So my guys from everyday drive, everyday drivers that the two

guys out in Utah, they had a letter come in.

And they were talking about in this pretty good video.

I might actually put a link of the video in there.

Or I'll just send it to you.

And they got a letter in there saying, hey, pick the the the

funnest car for it from each category.

$5,000.

$10,000.

$25,000.

$50,000.

And $100,000.

The Miata is in like almost all those categories.

No.

The one guy, I'm losing his name right now.

He was able to put the Miata in every one of those spots.

Wow.

Whose Miata is $100,000?

The is not a monster Miata, but it's the other company that

was put in Ellis Ellis engines in Miata.

It was that prototype car that they did all of that.

They sold it on bring the trailer for $99,000.

I mean, listen, I'm not going to say, I'm not going to say

he's wrong.

I'm not saying he's wrong.

But what I am saying is, I think I could have more

fun in a car for $100,000 than a Miata.

No, no.

He, those were the cars that he picked.

He's just, they have a mantra on there where there's

like, if you're looking for the fun car, the answer is

always Miata.

Just go get it.

If you want to have fun in a car, the answer is Miata

pretty much every price point.

And they just, he just want to see if a Miata actually

fit in every one of those spots.

And that is it.

And then he made a list.

Each of them made a list without including the Miata.

But yeah.

Wow.

So yeah.

So that was the thing.

And I only have one more thing.

And I guess we've been on here a long time, but Bill,

I think we have a renewed rivalry that we are not

paying attention to.

Okay.

What is it?

All right.

So I was looking around because, you know, I had

not a whole lot to do all week long.

It seemed like there's a rivalry out there that fits

one car fits you to the T and one car fits

me to the T.

And it's not the Corvette.

And it's not a 9-11.

All right.

That we should argue more about.

Matter of fact, we should probably in a different

world, you would definitely own one of these already.

You would own one of these cars and I would own

the other car.

And they are so similar that I did not realize it.

There was then $2,000 of each other brand new MSRP.

And that's the 2025 Golf R and the 2025 BMW M235

GranCoupe.

The Golf R has 328 horsepower.

The GranCoupe has 312 horsepower.

They have identical 360 which is a stat that we

really don't care that much about.

But they still measure it.

They are so similar in...

They are so much the kind of car that we would drive

because you are a hashback guy over a sedan guy

and I'm a sedan guy over a hashback guy.

We both appreciate both things and we do not

want necessarily big cars.

No, I don't like a small car.

So is the M235 GranCoupe?

GranCoupe.

So that's not an M2.

It's just an M packaged.

Yeah.

That car is based on...

And these chassis are used throughout both brands

because the M235 chassis is the Mini.

Yes.

Is the M235 GranCoupe...

Is it all wheel drive?

It is all wheel drive.

Is it available in a manual?

It is not.

So both cars are dumb?

Yeah, both cars are dumb.

But you know, as we age in life,

you have your manual car right now.

Yes.

But you know, if you had a 2025 Golf R right now,

I think you would drive it as well.

Obviously, you wouldn't drive to have fun with it.

You have your manual car.

But to be honest, on a long road trip,

or even like on a road trip,

or letting your wife drive it, I mean,

that car fits.

That would be the only to let my wife drive it.

So to give you a, for instance,

last, let's see,

I guess today's Friday.

I got to back up a whole week.

So not this past Sunday,

because we were at a cow show,

but the Sunday before.

It was a nice day.

It was a little cooler.

It wasn't crazy hot.

And the weather, it was just a nice afternoon.

We didn't have a whole lot going on on Sunday afternoon.

And so we decided we were going to go take the dogs

and go for a hike.

So we loaded up the dogs in the truck

and we took off and went for a hike.

So I was walking the younger dog

and I stepped over some rocks

or was kind of stepping down off of a rocky little area.

And I took a weird step with my right foot.

And this is a 45-year-old story.

You had an old man moment.

I worried about my right foot

and my right ankle and my metal leg

to the point of it made me take a weird step

and land with my left leg,

at which point I really tweaked something in my knee

and it hurt enough that I had to let Kendra

walk the dog out of the trail for like the last mile.

I just kind of hobbled my way out

and went home and was just basically walking

and went home and was just basically worthless Sunday night

and had to leave Monday morning

to go down to Savannah and work down in Georgia.

Well, actually I guess to go to Atlanta

and then make my way to Savannah.

And a few ways driven in Atlanta,

you know, that's not the best traffic for a manual

no matter the circumstances.

I don't know, is there a good road around Atlanta

besides road Atlanta?

No, it's the short answer is no.

So I woke up Monday morning and was like,

man, what do I do? Do I drive my truck

and have an automatic transmission for the whole week?

Or do I drive the Golf R?

And I really went back and forth

right up until about two minutes before I left that morning

and I finally decided that I was going to go out of the car

and get in the car and operate the clutch a couple of times.

And if it was just excruciating, then that's it.

I just, I drive the brand new truck, you know.

So I went out of the car and I got in the car,

pumped the clutch a couple of times and I said,

no, I'll be fine.

And so I drove the Golf R for the whole week

in Atlanta and Savannah.

And you know what? My leg was fine. I got over it.

And you know what? I was happy I made that choice.

It was worth a little bit of pain on Monday,

driving in Atlanta traffic with my knee hurting a little bit.

But I had a small car that I could get around through traffic

quickly in, park easily, and just generally have a good time in.

So that being said, I would never pick the Golf R,

brand new for myself, because there'd be no reason,

there'd be no justification for me to own that car currently.

None, zero.

If I'm going to give myself the free pass to own that car

with paddle shifters and an automatic transmission,

then I might as well just buy, I don't know,

a Lexus LS600 and just drive a big sedan around.

There's no motivation for me to buy that car.

All right, so I know you well enough to believe you.

However, I disagree.

I also know you well enough to know that you know me well enough

that I'm going to disagree with you,

that if both of those cars were sitting in that driveway,

that would have been a way harder decision to make.

Because I personally believe that you would fit,

if you had a 2025 Golf R in your driveway,

you would make it fun, because I've seen you drive a Saturn.

Oh yeah, fair enough.

I've seen you drive a TDI Jetta.

Yeah, I definitely could drive it.

I'm not saying I couldn't drive it.

I'm saying if you told me I had to go buy a new car

to do the same kind of thing that I do with my Golf R,

well, then it wouldn't be a Golf R.

And it wouldn't be a BMW M235 Grand Coupe.

And if both of those cars were parked in the driveway right now

and you said, hey, you can go drive either one of those.

You don't have a car payment associated with them.

They're just here for you to enjoy.

But heck yeah, I would drive them.

I would probably pick the BMW first,

because I could rip on it and break something.

And apparently it's not my responsibility to fix it.

So I don't have to worry about how expensive it's going to be.

Also, look, caveat, if any of you ever meet Bill,

he will definitely, intentionally dependent on the car

and unintentionally dependent on the car, break your car.

Yes, sure.

For sure.

But so the whole point is I was looking when I was looking

at the manual things, I actually like both cars.

Both cars are very similar.

Both of them have DSGs.

Both of them have decent, pretty good DSGs,

automatic manual, direct shifts, whatever, blah, blah, blah.

The reason why I brought it up to you is because,

I mean, you're a VW guy.

Yep.

And I'm a BMW guy.

Yep.

And the two top BMW slash Volkswagen's that fit us

in character the most are these two cars.

I would agree with that.

And we don't, and I did, for some reason,

I didn't realize how close these cars were.

I didn't realize the Golf R was almost $50,000.

I knew that the Grand Coupe was.

I didn't realize the Golf R was that close to $50,000.

And maybe it's just an oversight on mine, on me,

but $50,000.

Would you pick the $50,000 VW over the $50,000 BMW

that essentially all do the same,

the exact same things almost the same way?

Again, I wouldn't pick either one of them.

But if I had, if somebody had a gun in my head

and said pick between the two to pay $50,000

of your own money for and own and drive regularly,

I 100% would pick the Volkswagen every day

because I feel like I have the best or lowest risk

cost of ownership over the life of that vehicle.

Now, if that was, you have to spend $50,000

on one of these two vehicles.

It comes with a 300,000 mile warranty

that covers everything in the car, bumper to bumper.

That gets a whole lot harder of a decision.

I might would pick the BMW.

In this case of these two cars,

they do so much similar things.

I would pick the BMW because I just preferred to sedan,

but I would not kick the golf bar out of bed.

It would be a really, really hard decision

if I was buying a personal car.

So this is my situation.

It kind of goes back to what we were talking about

in the beginning and our pursuit of manual transmissions.

I think I've come to the realization

that I like the idea of a manual,

but I need one more car in order to pull that off.

I eat.

I need a vehicle that if I need to go on a trip long distance

and I do not want to worry about that car,

I need a car that, let me say,

I need one more really reliable car

that my wife can drive and I can drive

before I get a manual car.

The reason I came to that is because tomorrow

I got to head up to Charlotte to go to a game.

I went to the Panthers.com voice game.

If I had that manual accurate,

I would want to drive the monster on that trip.

Listen to me.

We want to drive that monster on the trip

because I'm not going by myself first.

I knew if I bought that TSX

that there were things that I needed to do to it

and I just don't want to deal with that problem

when I'm just trying to get to Charlotte on that trip.

If it was just a me for a fun drive,

that's a different situation.

If I had a newer car like your Golf R,

that's a different situation.

I didn't feel comfortable taking the monster

and leaving a manual car to drive with

that my wife could drive,

which made me think about it.

I need one more car before I can really do that.

Or I need her and I love my wife to death

to allow me to teach her how to drive a manual,

which this has not happened in 30 years.

I need you to teach her to drive a manual

because she definitely isn't listening to me.

Maybe that's an episode of the podcast

is we swap and I teach Giselle how to drive a manual

and you teach Kendra how to drive a manual

because I have been unsuccessful in 25 years

to teach Kendra how to drive a manual

and now we've just reached the point where she's like,

I don't want to learn.

She likes riding in my car.

Last Friday night, we went to a cruise in it,

but she just don't have any desire to learn to drive it.

That's exactly it.

When we were talking about it,

I was like, if we get this car,

you're going to let me teach you how to drive a manual.

She's like, no, you can't teach me that.

That doesn't work.

And then she just continued with her record

with whatever she was doing.

She didn't even turn her head and acknowledge.

She's like, no, you can't teach me that.

That's not going to work.

Maybe that's the thing that we should do.

Also, in my last little bit is

just so people understand why

I had liked this first generation Acura TSX.

I'm a sedan guy over a coupe,

over a convertible, over a hatchback,

through and through.

I like small sedans.

That is my forte.

The Acura TSX is essentially

buying a four door Honda trailer.

That's for sure.

That's accurate.

That's an accurate statement.

It's the Euro Accord.

Yes, it's the Euro Accord.

So it has a K24 in it.

It has the manual.

It has the brakes of the Prelude.

It just has two additional doors.

And coupe's just doesn't fit my lifestyle really.

I've never really been a coupe guy like that.

As much as I like Fox Body, my Sands and Corvettes,

and I would do a Corvette R911,

it's just,

Coupes don't really fit in my lifestyle like that.

You know, it is tough, man.

I mean, I really wanted to get that S2000.

I really like a 911,

but you're right.

I mean, maybe it's an old age thing,

but coupe's just don't, you know,

if somebody gave me a Mustang,

a dark horse tomorrow, would I drive it?

Absolutely.

And I'll be right there driving mine with you.

Somebody wanted to give me one too.

But, you know, but I just,

I think I'm with you.

The ownership of a coupe just doesn't really feel

like it's something I would seek out at this moment.

That might change in the future.

And I've given myself this five-year goal

of owning a Porsche,

which I've already given myself an Astericon

and said the only suitable substitute is if I buy

a Cobra replica, but one of those two cars.

Or you can just build a Cobra replica.

I'm just saying.

Yeah.

If I'm going to build my own,

I'm probably going to do a 356 beats to replica,

but I'm probably not going to build my own

because I don't even have the free time to,

it took me two months to troubleshoot

and inject her on my 80 series

because I don't have free time.

You're right.

But yeah, man.

Again, and this is all the last thing I'm going to say.

Well, I'm going to try to make up the last thing I think.

I think those two cars could fit in either one of our garages.

Would it be the first car in our garage?

No, but I think those two cars kind of can speak to us.

And I just was curious.

I just thought it was curious.

It's like, why don't we argue about these cars more?

I mean, because in our reality,

almost every Porsche nowadays is,

for lack of better terms, an automatic

and every Corvette nowadays is an automatic.

So, I mean,

it does make you sad, doesn't it?

It does make you sad, but I mean,

this is the world we occupy.

Yeah, makes me, you know, makes me sad.

I just, there's still a place in this world

for manual transmissions.

Obviously we discussed the 20 some odd good reasons

for a manual, but there should be more manuals.

Yeah, I agree with you.

I think it, I was looking at a video and some data

and it was talking about Gen Z kids seeking out manual

transmissions, which are making them harder to find right now.

That's awesome.

And looking around for a specific car with a manual

and cars that are in that vein with the manuals,

they are decently hard to find.

Yeah.

And it's not because they don't really exist anymore.

It's because people are vital.

And so, yeah, I mean, I don't,

the Civic SI, I'm speaking of which,

the Civic SI, which we talked about a little bit offline.

And the Integra, those, good luck finding the Civic

as I sit on the dealership.

Just good luck finding one, sitting on a lot.

Yeah.

Yeah, probably it probably ain't gonna happen.

There are 300 dealerships within 50 miles of me

and each of them have one.

And they don't want to move on the price,

which is why I had to cancel that idea.

They wanted $35,000 for that car.

I know, but I still think if you were gonna entertain

the idea of a payment on something,

then a new Civic SI with a warranty

is a pretty smart way to go.

Actually, I think I would go Integra over Civic SI.

Well, yeah, because you're old.

You're correct.

And I can't knock that.

I mean, I probably would go with the Integra also

because I like leather seats.

Yeah.

And, you know, when it gets a little cool outside,

which just doesn't really apply to you,

I like the term I see here.

I use mine occasionally for, you know, 10 to 15 minutes.

It's about all I can handle of it.

Of all the buttons in a new vehicle that you could possibly

own, seat heaters, lane censoring, and traction control

are the three least buttons you would ever touch.

Oh, yeah.

I mean, for me, as far as I'm concerned,

the three least buttons you would ever touch.

Oh, yeah.

I mean, for me, as far as that kind of technology,

let's call it lazy comfort technology,

my favorites are in this order.

Android Auto.

Must have in my book.

Go ahead.

Ventilated seats.

You get hot in 50 degrees.

So that's a must have for you.

Yeah.

Yeah, for sure.

And remote start stop.

Or not remote start, like remote, like keyless start.

Keyless start.

Yeah, keyless start.

That's what I meant.

My wife's favorite feature.

If it's 60 degrees outside, she's starting the car early.

I don't know why.

She could teach Kendra a thing or two,

because I constantly harp that the cars

need a three to five minute warm-up cycle.

Yeah.

So my daughter, she was getting in her car,

and actually she was driving the van.

And she started the car, and she wanted to put it,

just go ahead and put it in the gear.

Start the car and just put it in the gear.

And modern cars, they have a way to get around it.

You don't really got to let it warm up like back in the day.

However, I was like, hey, calm down.

Calm down.

You don't have to, but you should.

You should.

I was like, you hear that?

You hear how high the RPMs are?

She was like, what's the RPMs?

And first of all, I was like, I have failed you child.

And then second, I either failed you

or you paid no attention to me,

which I think is second.

I think that's, yeah, yeah.

And I was like, let it calm down.

Before you die, go put it in gear.

Just, just let it calm down.

Give it a second.

That's like, trust me, you're not going to be any later

than you already are.

I don't know.

One hour and 47 minutes of recording time.

I don't know exactly how long this episode is going to be.

I think that's, that's another one in the book.

I love it.

I love it too, man.

I love you to death, man.

And let's do this again.

All right.

I love you too.

Later.

Night, y'all.

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