Sometimes an insurance company recommends a specific repair shop. That can make the process faster, but it doesn’t guarantee the repair quality will be great. The speaker is saying they used the insurer’s recommended shop and still got a bad result.
A bonnet is the front hood of the car (the part you open to see the engine). If it doesn’t line up properly after a repair, it can mean the body panels weren’t fitted correctly. They also mention the insulation inside the bonnet was left loose.
A guard is the outer panel around the wheel—what many people elsewhere call a fender. After repairs, it should line up cleanly with the hood/bonnet and other panels. They’re saying the alignment was wrong after the guard was replaced.
The bumper bar is the main bumper structure behind the outer bumper cover. If it’s chipped or the wrong pieces were reused, the bumper may not fit right or protect as intended. They’re describing a repair that left visible chips and mixed old/new lower parts.
Term
mill
In bodywork talk, a “mill” usually means a thousandth of an inch (0.001 in), or it may be used informally to mean a very small measurement. When someone says “a couple of mill out,” they’re describing a tiny panel-gap or alignment error that still looks obvious up close. In practice, panel gaps are often measured in millimeters, but the speaker’s “mill” indicates a very small tolerance.
A “swage line” is a raised or creased line in the car’s body panels. It helps the car look sculpted and it should line up smoothly across neighboring panels. If the hood is slightly off, that line won’t match up the way it should.
Hyundai is the car brand. Here, the shop is saying they reported the bonnet misalignment to Hyundai, which usually means the problem goes through the official dealer/manufacturer process instead of just being adjusted and forgotten.
The Acura Integra is a compact car that’s made to feel sporty to drive. In the podcast, the speaker says they’ve been driving one and enjoying it. It’s being mentioned because it’s a fun, everyday-size performance car.
The Fiat 600 is an older, small car. The podcast is talking about differences in parts like brakes between similar small cars. It’s mentioned as part of that history of how these compact models were built.
The Subaru 360 is a very small, older-style car. The podcast is talking about how it had certain parts, and how other similar small Subarus had upgrades like disc brakes. It’s a historical example of tiny-car engineering.
Disc brakes use a spinning metal disc and pads that clamp onto it to slow the car down. They usually work more consistently than older drum brakes, especially when you brake more than once.
A station wagon is like a sedan, but with a bigger cargo area behind the back seats. It’s meant for carrying people and luggage without switching to a van or SUV.
Sliding side windows move left and right on tracks instead of swinging open. The hosts mention them because the station wagon version had them, but this particular car doesn’t.
Chrome wheel trims are shiny decorative pieces on or around the wheels. The hosts are pointing out that the station wagon version had these, but this car doesn’t.
Term
600 engine
“600 engine” usually means a small 600cc engine. The hosts are saying it’s surprising because this car model typically didn’t come from the factory with that smaller engine option.
A sports wagon is a wagon that’s meant to feel more sporty than a normal family wagon. The hosts are joking that this one is “sports” in name or vibe, but not in the usual way people expect.
Term
10 inch contesta mag wheels
“Mag wheels” usually means lightweight alloy wheels instead of steel. The wheel size matters because it changes what tires can fit and can affect how the car drives.
Term
booster motor
A “booster motor” here sounds like something added to help increase boost pressure. Boost is extra compressed air going into the engine to make more power.
“High boost” means the turbo is pushing more pressure into the engine than usual. More boost can make more power, but it also puts more strain on the engine and needs careful setup.
Concept
frightening people at the lights
This is basically the idea of making other drivers surprised when the light turns green. It’s about quick acceleration right off the line.
A Honda Jazz is a small hatchback that’s popular because it’s roomy for its size. Here they’re talking about an older, first-generation one that someone bought new in 2007.
Car
K 20 transplant
A “K 20 transplant” is when someone takes a Honda K20 engine and puts it into a different car. That’s a big upgrade because the engine is the heart of the car, and it changes how it accelerates and drives. It usually also requires extra parts and fitting to make everything work together.
Term
fully engineered
“Fully engineered” usually means the car wasn’t just modified with random parts. It suggests the changes were planned and set up properly so everything works together. In this case, it’s describing a serious, well-thought-out performance build.
Alcantara is a soft, suede-like material used inside cars. It’s used on things like the steering wheel and dashboard because it feels nice and looks high-end. It’s mostly about feel and appearance rather than speed.
Suspension is what helps the car ride smoothly and handle turns. If the suspension has been “done,” it usually means it’s been upgraded so the car feels more controlled and less bouncy. It affects both comfort and handling.
RTV is a type of silicone sealant used to help seal joints and prevent leaks. Here they’re talking about whether a certain car/generation used that sealant or not.
Term
V E / V F crewman
“Crewman” here is a specific variant of a vehicle, and “VE/VF” are codes that identify which version/generation they mean. They’re using it to explain that a certain sealing method wasn’t used on that variant.
“Type R” is Honda’s label for their most performance-focused versions of a car. When they say “Jazz Type R,” they mean a Jazz that’s been turned into a real hot hatch, not just a regular commuter.
Aftermarket support just means there are lots of extra parts and upgrade options made by companies other than the car brand. More support usually makes it easier to modify the car the way you want.
A “platform” is the shared underlying structure a car is built on. The host is saying they wish Honda had used the Jazz’s basic design to make a small convertible sports car.
The Honda S2000 is a small, fun roadster made by Honda. It’s famous for being light and for its engine that revs really high. Here, they’re talking about how expensive it was when new.
The Honda S 660 is a tiny, sporty roadster made by Honda. It’s the kind of car enthusiasts like because it’s light and handles well, and the hosts are talking about making it even more performance-focused.
Hot hatches are sporty, faster versions of small hatchback cars. They’re usually made quicker by adding more power and improving the suspension and tires.
The Fiesta ST is a sporty, performance version of the Ford Fiesta. In this discussion, it’s used to explain why a hot Mazda 2 would have been plausible.
A “platform” is the shared engineering base a bunch of cars use. If two cars share the same platform, they’re built on the same basic layout, so it’s easier to make one into a sportier version.
“Rear engine” means the engine is placed near the back of the car. That can change how the car handles and how power gets to the wheels.
Term
real drive
The speaker is talking about which wheels the car actually sends power to. A swap like this can change the drivetrain so it drives the “right” wheels for that engine layout.
The Renault Clio V6 is a special version of the Clio that uses a V6 engine. The podcast is talking about it as a specific setup rather than a normal everyday model. It’s notable because it’s an unexpected, high-performance twist on a small car.
Concept
opportunities for that
This is the idea that engine swaps and unusual builds are increasingly feasible because the parts and fabrication ecosystem exists. It’s essentially a “why this kind of project is possible” discussion rather than a specific component or car model.
Engine mounts are the parts that bolt the engine to the car’s body or subframe. If you put a different engine in, you often need new mounts so it fits and sits safely.
“Road legal” means the car is allowed to be driven on public streets. For engine swaps, that usually means it has to meet safety and emissions rules so it can pass inspection.
The Honda Civic Type R is Honda’s performance version of the Civic. It’s meant to be a serious hot hatch, and here they’re talking about how Honda kept that badge special over time.
The Honda Integra Type R is a special, enthusiast-focused version of the Integra. It’s the kind of car people buy when they want something more sporty and driver-focused than a normal Integra.
The Honda NSX is a sports car made by Honda. It’s known as one of Honda’s most serious performance cars. The podcast is comparing it to other high-end Honda models like the Integra Type R.
A rental fleet is the set of cars a rental company keeps and rents out to customers. It can make a model show up everywhere, even if it’s not the most exciting version.
Swindon is a place in the UK known for car manufacturing. The host is mentioning it to give background on where the Honda Jazz was produced for a long time.
Spoon (Spoon Sports) is a Japanese company that makes aftermarket performance parts. It’s popular with Honda fans who want better handling and a more exciting driving feel.
Mugen is a Japanese company that makes performance parts for certain Honda cars. People use their parts to make the cars feel more sporty and track-ready.
The Suzuki Swift Sport is a small car that’s tuned to feel sporty and lively. It’s popular because it’s relatively affordable but still feels like a performance car.
The Suzuki Swift 5-door is a small hatchback with extra doors for easier access to the back seats. The podcast is talking about it as a possible sporty compact option. It’s the kind of car people choose when they want something easy to drive and park.
Toyota has a performance brand called GR that makes sportier versions of normal Toyota cars. The hosts are saying Toyota is doing a good job with that approach.
Term
GR
GR is Toyota’s performance label. When you see it on a Toyota, it usually means the car is tuned to feel more like a sporty enthusiast car than a regular one.
The Toyota GR Corolla is a sporty version of the Corolla, made for more exciting driving. It’s a small hatchback that’s meant to handle well and feel quick. The podcast brings it up alongside other GR cars to compare Toyota’s performance lineup.
The Toyota GR Yaris is a sporty version of the Yaris. It’s designed to handle well and feel quick, inspired by rally driving. The podcast mentions it alongside other GR cars to compare Toyota’s performance lineup.
The Nissan Z is Nissan’s sports car. It’s meant to feel fun and engaging to drive, and in this chat they’re comparing it to the more hardcore Nismo version.
DSG is a type of automatic gearbox used by Volkswagen. It uses two clutches to change gears quickly, so the car feels more responsive than many regular automatics.
The Golf R is the sporty, higher-performance version of the Volkswagen Golf. Here, they’re talking about buying a wrecked one to take parts from and combine into another car.
The engine management system is the car’s computer that controls how the engine runs. If you swap parts between cars, you often have to get the computer and sensors working together correctly.
“Lowered” means the car sits closer to the ground than stock. People do it for looks and handling, but it can reduce ground clearance for bumps and speed humps.
The Mazda 2 is a small Mazda hatchback meant for everyday driving. Here, the speaker is basically saying they’ve been seeing brand-new ones recently, with very fresh-looking tires and clean wheel-arch areas.
The Honda Civic is a popular compact car. The podcast is talking about a wagon version, meaning a Civic with more cargo space than a sedan. It’s mentioned because some people prefer that practical wagon shape.
The Honda Accord is a common Honda family car. In some places, Honda also sold it as a wagon, not just a sedan. The podcast is referencing that wagon version and how it was offered for certain markets.
The Honda Odyssey is a minivan, which is a family vehicle built to fit more people and gear. The podcast is mentioning it as an option people consider when they want a lot of space. It’s often brought up because it’s designed for everyday family use.
Brand
B Y D C L wagon
BYD is a car brand (mostly known for electric cars). Here, the hosts are talking about a BYD wagon model and how good it looks—basically arguing that wagons are back in style.
The Ford Falcon is a Ford car model that was sold in Australia and became well known there. In the podcast, it’s being mentioned in the context of what Ford did—or didn’t—offer using that name. It’s more about the model’s role in that market than about a specific feature.
This means one car choice could take buyers away from another car choice that would have been sold in the same region. So instead of growing total sales, it just shifts demand around.
SUV means “sport utility vehicle.” It’s the taller, more upright kind of car that many people prefer today, and the host is saying that’s why wagons don’t always get made.
The Chevrolet Captiva is an SUV meant for carrying people and everyday gear. The podcast is mentioning it in the context of comparing different vehicle shapes that can serve similar purposes. It’s generally the kind of car people look at for family use.
They’re talking about a Mustang with four doors. Since most Mustangs are coupes, a four-door version would be a more practical take on the Mustang idea, and they’re reacting to the fact that it never really became a real product.
An inline-six is an engine with six cylinders lined up in a row. People like it because it can run very smoothly. Here, they’re saying Mazda’s new inline-six could power a more exciting two-door car.
The BMW M Coupe (E36) is a sporty BMW coupe made for performance. It’s part of BMW’s M performance line, meaning it’s tuned to drive more aggressively than a standard model. The podcast is talking about how it compares to other performance options.
The Holden Monaro is a performance coupe that was made for the Australian market. The podcast is describing it as being related to the Commodore, but in a shorter coupe body style. It’s mentioned because it’s a well-known local performance car.
The Volkswagen Golf is a small car that’s meant for daily driving. In the early years, the same kind of car was sold in the U.S. under a different name, “Rabbit.” The conversation is pointing out that naming difference.
The Volkswagen Rabbit is an older Volkswagen model name that was used in America. It’s essentially the first Golf generation, just sold under a different name. The podcast is pointing out that connection so people understand what they’re looking at.
The Volkswagen Caddy is a small van-like vehicle made for carrying people or cargo. The podcast is just pointing out the name used for it. It’s typically chosen for practicality and everyday usefulness.
The Ford Ranger is a pickup truck, meaning it has a cargo bed for carrying things. People often consider it for practical use like work or hauling. The podcast mention suggests the cost of owning one can be affected by taxes or fees.
“One ton payload” means the truck can carry up to about 2,000 pounds of stuff. It’s basically how much weight you can put in the back without overloading it.
Term
dual cabutes
“Dual cab” usually means a pickup with two rows of seats (front and back). The speaker is saying a smaller truck could be better for everyday use than the bigger double-cab style.
Term
utility youth
This sounds like the host is talking about a “ute,” which is a practical pickup-style vehicle. The idea is that a premium brand might not offer that kind of practical truck.
The BMW M5 is a fast, performance version of a BMW 5 Series. It’s made by BMW’s performance team (M) and is meant to be quick and fun to drive, not just comfortable.
“Four by two” means only two of the wheels are powered. Usually that’s the rear wheels, which can make the vehicle simpler and sometimes less expensive than a full-time all-wheel-drive setup.
The Toyota Land Cruiser 70 series is a tough, off-road truck/SUV that’s been around for a long time. People like it because it’s built for rough use and can be configured for work or adventure.
A “mini truck” is a custom look where a car is modified to resemble a small pickup truck. The idea is mostly visual—making the car look like a tiny truck.
The Mitsubishi Mirage is a small, budget-friendly car. In this conversation it’s mainly mentioned as one of the cars the speaker owned to compare driving feel.
A valve is like a gate inside the engine that opens and closes to let air in and exhaust out. If a valve “drops,” it can get damaged or hit other parts, and the engine can be ruined.
The Hyundai Sonata is a regular family sedan, usually chosen for comfort and practicality. The podcast is talking about adding a turbo engine to make it feel more powerful. That kind of idea is about turning a normal daily car into something sportier.
The Honda Fit is a small Honda hatchback. Here, people are saying the project should have been based on a Honda Fit (or similar) instead of the direction it took.
The Toyota Supra is a sports car built for performance and driving excitement. The podcast is talking about whether it should have had a V8 engine. That’s relevant because engine choice strongly affects how a car feels and sounds.
The Lexus LC 500 is a Lexus coupe that’s meant for comfortable, fast driving. It’s famous for its V8 and for looking really futuristic and dramatic compared to normal cars.
The Toyota GR GT is a name being talked about as a concept or possible performance direction. The podcast is bringing it up because it sounds like it belongs to Toyota’s GR performance family. It’s discussed more for what it could mean than for what you can buy today.
A V8 is an engine with eight cylinders. More cylinders usually means more power and smoother acceleration, which is why people often associate V8s with fast cars.
BMW’s M3 and M4 are sporty versions of BMW cars that are meant to feel more aggressive and fun to drive. Here, the person is saying they don’t like the current styling—especially the front grille—and would rather it looked cleaner.
Car
Mazda MPS
Mazda MPS is Mazda’s performance-focused trim line—think turbocharged, more enthusiast-oriented versions. The host wants Mazda to reintroduce that kind of “fun” model because it’s not as common anymore.
A “one-off” means there’s only one of that car. It’s usually built for a special reason, not for regular customers. Here, it’s describing custom Holden cars with unique styling and trim.
“Badging” means the stickers/labels/logos on the car that show the model or trim. Here, the special cars had extra badging to make them look unique. It’s one of the clues that they weren’t normal production cars.
Calais is a higher-end version (a trim level) of the Holden Commodore. A “one-off” Calais means it was built as a special single car, not something you could buy off the lot. The point is that it had extra features and styling.
A “limited edition” car is made in a small number, usually with special features. In this conversation, it’s being used to describe a very exclusive Holden Calais that wasn’t a regular model you’d see everywhere. It’s part of what makes the car collectible.
The Daewoo Statesman is a specific car model name mentioned in the podcast. The speaker describes it as a rare “one-off” kind of example, and suggests it was likely found used. It’s being brought up because it’s not a common, everyday model.
Embossed leather is leather with a pattern pressed into it so it stands up. In this segment, it’s mentioned as part of the special interior on the custom Holden. It’s a luxury-style detail that makes the car feel more “made for an occasion.”
Harrop makes performance car parts. If a build has “Harrop brakes,” it usually means the brakes were upgraded to stronger, more capable parts than the standard ones.
Toyota’s “GR” versions are the sporty, performance-focused Corollas. This “Corolla GR MN” is a new special performance variant Toyota says is coming to Australia.
A “four cylinder” engine has four cylinders that burn fuel to make power. People mention it because it affects how heavy the engine is and how the car delivers power.
A “final edition” is basically the last special version of a car before it’s replaced. Companies often make it feel more special by adding performance upgrades and sometimes removing weight.
“Bigger brakes” means the braking system is upgraded so it can stop the car more strongly and handle heat better. That’s especially helpful on faster, heavier-hitting versions of a model.
“Bigger wheels” usually means larger rims paired with shorter sidewall tires. That can make the car feel more responsive, but it can also make the ride a bit firmer.
This phrase means the car is being made faster in two ways: it gets stronger power and it weighs less. A lighter car usually accelerates and handles better, and extra power makes it quicker.
The Nürburgring is a very famous race track in Germany. Car companies use it to test and compare how well cars handle and how fast they can go, because it’s long and challenging.
This is a Toyota Hilux pickup that was tuned or packaged by TRD (Toyota Racing Development). They’re discussing a special version that was only sold in Australia for a short time, and they’re quizzing the exact years.
A facelift is when a car gets updated partway through its life. It usually means styling and feature changes (like lights, bumpers, or interior), not a completely new model.
The Lexus LBX is Lexus’s small crossover. It’s closely related to the Toyota Yaris Cross, just with Lexus styling and features. The discussion here is mainly about what the name “LBX” stands for and why it feels like a small Yaris-based car.
A manual transmission is a gearbox where the driver selects gears using a clutch pedal and gear lever. In this segment, the hosts mention that the Lexus LBX (specifically the Maritsu/“Maritsu” variant they’re discussing) can be had with a manual in Japan, but not overseas. That’s a meaningful market difference for enthusiasts.
The Toyota Yaris Cross is a small SUV. The host is talking about transmission options—specifically whether you can get it as a manual—and how the engine/drivetrain setup is tied to that choice.
This means the car uses a small 3-cylinder engine with a turbo. The turbo helps it make more power, but it can feel different than a non-turbo engine.
Car
Skoda Octavia
The Škoda Octavia is one of Škoda’s most important model lines, known for being practical and widely sold across Europe. Here, the host is using the Octavia as the specific car Škoda sold in Australia when they first entered the market.
Car
Skoda S110
The Škoda S110 is an older Škoda model. The host brings it up to explain what Škoda was selling in Australia after the Octavia.
Car
Skoda 120L
The Škoda 120L is an older Škoda model. The host says it was fun/characterful and then goes on to describe how its layout made it behave differently than most cars today.
A swing rear axle is an older rear suspension design. It can make the back of the car feel less predictable when you drive hard or when grip changes.
Concept
passenger side
The host is talking about driving-side differences between countries. Because some places are right-hand-drive and others are left-hand-drive, the same car design can end up opening/positioning things on the “wrong” side for the driver.
The Volkswagen Group is a big company that owns several car brands. The hosts mention it because Škoda’s relaunch in Australia happened under that ownership.
Four-wheel drive means the car can send power to all four wheels. That helps it grip better on wet, snowy, or rough roads.
Term
two-wheel drive transfer
This is about switching the car between using two wheels and using all four wheels. Two-wheel mode can be used for everyday driving, while four-wheel mode helps when traction drops.
Term
limited stiff differential
A limited-slip differential helps the car avoid one wheel spinning uselessly. It shares power more effectively when traction is different from side to side.
An inclinometer measures how tilted the car is. It can be used to tell how level the vehicle is or how steep the ground is.
Car
Daihatsu Rocky
The Daihatsu Rocky is a small Japanese 4x4 SUV. It’s built to handle rougher use and can be set up to carry people or gear, which matches the conversation about folding seats and cargo space.
The Toyota Crown is a Toyota model line that’s meant to feel more upscale and comfortable than a typical Toyota. Here, they’re describing one Crown’s features and drivetrain details.
“16-inch” describes the wheel diameter, and “alloy wheels” are typically lighter and more corrosion-resistant than steel wheels. Wheel size can affect ride comfort and steering feel because it changes tire sidewall height.
A 3.5-liter V6 is an engine with six cylinders arranged in a V shape. The “3.5-liter” part is how big the engine is overall, which affects how much power it can make.
Fuel injection means the car uses injectors to deliver fuel in a controlled way. It helps the engine run more smoothly and efficiently than older fuel systems.
Car
Mitsubishi Verada
The Mitsubishi Verada is a Mitsubishi model that was aimed at comfort and “luxury” features. Here they’re describing one with a V6 engine and an automatic transmission.
A four-speed automatic is a gearbox with four forward gears that shifts by itself. It’s an older style of automatic compared to today’s transmissions with more gears.
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Just myself.
And now we do the after hours.
General, what would you go for?
They see us in there.
Because it's not a super car.
It is.
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Welcome to Car Talk.
It's Tuesday night.
It's me, Matty J, online with Mr David Prince and Mr Rob Zadai.
How are you, gentlemen?
Very good. Thank you, mate.
How are you, Matty?
I'm definitely better.
I'm better than I was last week.
Lucky we had enough content to get us through for a couple of weeks.
Cracking content, if I say so myself.
I've had some good positive feedback from the event.
That was the podcast with Ed Odinsky, the two-parter.
Those three hours just flew by.
It felt like we were talking for two minutes, really.
It really did.
Have you heard it yet, Rob, those episodes?
No, I haven't had a chance to see it yet.
Great guy, Ed.
We're going to get him back on at some point.
I listened to the first one, which was great.
I saw you post yesterday about the second one was live,
but the link didn't work for me.
I thought it was like the services Victoria app
collapsing with everybody trying to get there.
Late on their radio.
Ed wouldn't open for me, but I'll have another go tomorrow.
That's really weird.
I want to try.
I went into Spotify and only the first one was up,
but anyway, I'm sure it'll be up tomorrow.
But it's worth it if you didn't hear it.
Absolutely.
The link worked this time.
Maybe there's a bit of an issue there.
Don't stress, but it's all good now.
It's good to see you guys.
Rob, you've been a busy man.
Let us the latest with the transit.
Oh, geez.
The story goes on.
I told you the first time I took it in to their preferred
repair and fit.
I went to the other one.
The last we heard about the transit.
We're getting to car updates and this is your car update.
Start of your car updates.
You were choosing whether to go through insurance
or not through insurance.
Anyway, car long story short, going through insurance.
The insurance provider said go to this such and such repair.
The repair goes now.
We can't do that.
It's too tall.
They didn't.
Really short panel beaters were they?
Yeah, they're short panel beaters.
They couldn't reach that jump.
So they didn't do anything.
So I rang them up and they said,
I go and see this other panel beta.
And they were pretty good.
They said come around the next day.
Had a look at it and it goes, we'll put in the application.
They'll be slack with the application.
And back to RACV.
But it finally went in on Saturday.
But somehow in between that,
I put Subin at Harley's car to get repaired as well.
Because he got a bit of a bingo.
And what the C63?
No, no, the Amrock.
Drive last Tuesday morning was foggy.
Car cut across three lanes.
Took out his front guard.
And a bit of the door.
So I took that car in a couple of days later.
A week later.
And it's already approved and it's going in tomorrow.
But my van's still being assessed.
So strange.
Maybe, you know, because it's my fault.
So I'm claiming for it.
Maybe there's an issue there.
I don't know.
We'll see what happens.
So that's pretty much the car updates with the van.
And now Harley's car.
But it's frustrating in trying to get it repaired and whatnot.
So it'll get done one way or the other.
Oh, that's another thing.
I went to S&M Ford to see if I can cancel all the parts.
Because I was going for insurance.
They're special order parts and we can't send them back.
But we still haven't got the parts.
They're still not coming.
So you need a wrong part for starters.
It doesn't.
And you still haven't got the corner piece, the crucial piece.
So it's the long plastic mold on the left hand lower quarter
and in the corner mold.
And they're going, yeah, we'll get it in for you,
but we can't cancel it.
How's that?
Have you paid for it already?
They won't take an order unless you pay for it.
Wow.
I'll never deal with them again.
And I'll never get my car service refested in Fort Eva.
That's just poor business, I reckon.
Did you tell the panel beady you ordered the parts?
Yeah, yeah.
And they'll look at the, they said they'll look at the price
and sort of lower.
I had a couple of little dints and a couple of other repairs
I need to do.
So they'll work in those other repairs with the parts.
So it'll balance out.
They're real good.
The panel bidders were good.
So they're just off assembly drive
in Keele Park there.
So they're close.
So the guy was real friendly.
The shop looks clean, looks good.
So I'm pretty comfortable and pretty happy with them.
So we'll see how they go.
Pretty good indicator, isn't it?
If you go to a place that looks like a bomb's gone off,
you sort of think, I don't know about that.
Well, funny you say that because
my niece's car got smashed a couple of weeks back
and got written off with the FedEx truck.
The cousin, the nephew was sitting at the driveway.
He's a massive driveway to a new data center.
And the truck, instead of going out onto the road,
he's cut across the driveway and took out his whole front guard
bumper bar bonnet the whole, the tray on the car.
Anyway, I took it to a panel shop in Thomastown.
Preferred recommended panel shop from the insurer.
Anyway, my sister and I went to pick up the car.
The actual bonnet didn't line with the right hand side,
sorry, the left hand side, passenger side.
Didn't line up at all with the guard that wasn't hit.
Didn't line up with the new guard that was put on.
Everything was all skew if and up high.
There was chips on the new bumper bar and it replaced
only one section of the lower plastic, so broken,
but put the old plastics in the lower part of the bumper bar.
Didn't even bother cleaning it.
And then when you opened up the bonnet,
the insulation on the bonnet was just hanging.
How do they give a car back like that?
I don't understand.
Where is your problem working?
I'll go to my sister.
We're just going to leave it here.
Just let them fix it.
So we're supposed to go and pick it up today,
but yesterday, but haven't had the call yet,
so I'm not sure what they're doing.
What sort of car are we here talking about?
It's a Vox Siri Golf 7.
Oh, yeah, yep, yep.
It's a comfort line or high line or whatever.
Model, up spec one.
So it's a nice car.
The niece doesn't look after it anyway.
She's like, you know, curbs the rims
and these little scuff marks on the sides
and it's just the cars, just the absolute mess.
It's, you know, all the make-ups in there,
the whole lot.
Just, you know, anyway.
So they probably looked at the rest of the car
and they go, the rest of the car looks pretty crappy,
even though it's a nice new car.
So they probably go,
eh, we're not going to worry about it too much either.
But that's not the point.
No.
You know, if, you know, you're replacing the guard,
the bonnet, the bumper bar,
you make sure it's all locked new.
And it wasn't.
So, yeah, we said we're not going to accept it.
And they go, yeah, no problems at all.
They were nice about it.
They were nice about it.
And they might have been pissed in the background
and upset that, you know, we're, you know, picking at it.
But when you see...
Maybe they knew.
A four-mil gap at the front.
And a one-mil gap, sorry,
a four-mil gap at the back and one-mil gap at the front
and you go, eh, nah.
I wonder how many people though would look at that.
You know, the last thing,
the time they saw the car,
the other front was hanging off it and, you know,
the lights were broken and the, you know,
it was all smashed and creased.
And they go back and they go,
wow, that looks so good, you know.
Yeah.
I don't think a lot of people,
once it's repaired, they think,
oh, great, it looks fantastic.
You know, I don't know a lot of people look that closely.
And that's why they probably weren't that fast.
You know, they thought,
oh, well, we're not going to get away with this one.
The guy's onto a sort of thing.
But how many others go out without any,
so much as a query, I wonder.
Yeah.
So anyway, when a car comes back,
I'll give it a nice clean in the buff.
And it's going in for a service on Friday as well.
So I had to book that for him because,
I don't know, anyway.
Because you're the car person in the family.
You know, a good uncle does.
Hands up all the car people in their families.
Probably want as big a car people as you two.
But anyway, I'm sort of any halfway there.
Yeah.
So I booked that in for this Friday
and then the Mustang in for the following Friday.
I haven't driven that much either, the Mustang.
I bet you that's not going back to S&M Ford, is it?
No, never.
No.
It's not going to S&M or Bayford.
So I'm running out of Ford dealers.
Yeah.
So run out.
I'm not going to Sumbri because of all the bad experience
I had with Sumbri Ford.
I'm not going to Bayford because of all the bad experience
I've had with the warranty on the transit.
You know, lack of communication, lost my keys,
all sorts of things happen there.
Oh.
And I'm not S&M Ford now.
I've done the dash with the spare parts.
Hang on.
Lost your keys.
Did they find them again?
They found them after a couple of hours.
Oh, OK.
Yeah.
Just hanging around, you know, waiting for keys.
Wow.
Yeah.
So that was an experience.
I'm possibly looking at retirement in a couple of months.
Oh, wow.
All right.
I'll have plenty of time to work on the Leyland and the SEC
because SIDS hasn't done anything.
You know, you've done a bit more high fill on it,
probably less than what was done on other people's cars.
But I'll just get stuck into it and get it done.
Yeah.
Because I'm waiting, I need to get it all back together
so I can take it to the postures and get all the interior re-trimmed
because all the seats are going hard in it
and all the fabrics and it's torn away at the stitches
and stuff like that.
So I'm just going to get it all redone
and freshened up inside the interior.
And my son's mate, his dad's an automotive trimmer
and he works out of Hoppers Crossing.
He's been doing, he's done some nice custom cars
like $100,000 car.
So like show cars.
So hopefully you'll do a good job of mine.
I'm sure he will.
So just, yeah, I want to get that together.
So once I retire in September,
I've got another couple of months.
Exciting.
I'll start working on the cars,
get the SCC out the way, get the P76 out
and get that cleaned up and get that on the road.
And I don't think I'll do the CE.
So that'll be good.
Yeah.
But yeah, that's it.
Yeah, awesome.
Very good.
We're welcoming Chad to the podcast.
How are you, Chad?
Hello, guys.
How are you?
Good, mate.
How are you?
I'm very good.
Thank you.
Good to see you, buddy.
Sorry for being late.
Mate, there's no time better than the present.
So we just had a car to a car scoop.
Rob retiring in a few months.
Yeah.
That's very exciting, man.
Awesome.
I thought, you know what?
I'm not going to be any richer in a year or two.
So, you know, life's too short.
So 61, so I think a good age.
And I'll still have a few good years ahead
and riding bikes, working on cars, going on holidays.
You've got to enjoy it, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Absolutely true.
Yeah.
Very good, man.
That's very exciting.
Yeah.
I wish I was 40 again, but hey.
30.
Oh, he's had the old good days.
Yeah.
Well, that's good.
David Prince, updates with you, my friend.
Been a couple at the first service done on the whole day
and had a recall, no, a campaign.
They don't call them recalls.
A campaign done at 1500 Ks.
There's been a fault software glitch reported in America,
obviously, because there's a gazillion of them over there.
Something to do with the emergency braking sort of thing
that can actually apply with that warning.
So evidently has to do that now.
So that's good.
Best case scenario.
That was very easily done.
The car was done in a, it was just an inspection of 1500 Ks.
And yeah, I had it there at 730.
It was done by nine and, and yeah, picked it up.
One thing I noticed when we did pick it up actually,
and I didn't know whether to say anything.
I thought, no, I blow it away as well.
The alignment of the bonnet wasn't quite right.
There was a couple of mill out and there's a,
there's a swage line that sort of runs from the front door
into the bonnet.
And as you drive in the driver's door,
when I opened it for the first time, I looked and I thought,
that's not, not lined up.
You know, and I took a photo of it.
And then I went and had a look on the other side, just casually,
nonchalantly.
And yeah, it was, it was also a little bit out on that side,
but not as, not as bad.
So anyway, he said, they said, no, no, that's, you know,
we should have noticed that, you know, we're,
it's not just a matter of the mechanic, you know,
loosening the bolts and moving the bonnet over.
It's, they've reported it to Hyundai and it'll have to go to a
panel shop and all those sorts of things.
So we're worried about that in time to come.
It doesn't stop the wheels from going around.
So that's completely fine.
I've been driving the Integra a bit, which has been really nice.
Have had that, that back to play with our clubs,
actually doing a 40th anniversary, the Integra morning tea,
you know, coffee and coffee and cars thing on the 21st of June,
down in Moorabbin.
So I want to have it ready for that.
So that's gone in today to have just a check over because it's
sort of sat for quite a while.
It's only done probably 500 Ks in the last two years.
So I just want to get it checked over and sort it out,
sort of fell into another scamp.
As you do.
Sort of.
Sort of.
Felling tight.
I don't go looking for these things, Rob.
I assure you.
He quite literally was walking in and was, oh, no, I fall in.
Oh, no.
Oh, no.
It's like, it's like those, those reels on Instagram where it's
just like, how did you end up buying this?
And it was just like walking in, falls over trips.
And he's, and he's like, card goes into the.
Yeah.
I was like, oh, I've ended up with a new car.
Yeah.
It's funny how that happens.
Funny.
Really funny how that happens.
I knew about this one a few years ago.
A guy in the club had bought a couple of cars from the other
side of the border, probably five or six years ago.
And disposed of running.
Sorry.
Mexico.
Mexico.
Yep.
Disposed to one of them through the club to a bloke then who
didn't ever do anything to it and then had to move house.
So that one ended up with my son.
And that's 90, 80% done.
And that's going to be probably one of the best in the world.
I reckon the way that he's gone to town on that.
And the other cars that he had to bring back on a trailer was
a shell of an LN.
So the van version of the scam, it was, had no engine in it,
had, didn't have glass in it.
And this, the fella that had that hung on it because he was
going to get to it, going to get to it, going to get to it,
realized he wasn't going to get to it.
So he was talking about selling it.
I thought I just can't, the thought of another project like
that, I don't really need it and have the space or anything.
So he sold it to a mate who's in another car club who's a
retired panel beater and mechanic.
And he, a bit like it, soon to be Rob.
So he had, but he also gave him a going 600 scams.
So the big block, 600 CC scams.
But that was, that was very rusty.
So fast forward a couple of years and the guy in our club
rang and said, oh, my mate who took the LN on us,
decided that he's found it.
I think he's in the BMC club and he'd found that he wanted a,
he'd found an MG midget or something.
Can't remember what it was, not important to the story.
And decided we'll, we'll, we'll move the LN on and my
mate wanted me to advertise around the club.
So send me some details.
So he sent me a photo of it running.
So it now has a 600 CC engine from the rusty car in it,
with a disc brake front end from the 600s that the 360s
didn't have.
He's put all the glass in it, got into your front window,
seal, fix all the electrics on it.
So it's a running going car just doesn't stop because the
brakes haven't been sorted out yet.
But I thought, oh, okay.
Well, that's a different proposition in as much as a lot of
the hard work's done.
So yeah, few discussions were had backwards and forwards.
And yeah, so now I've got that as well.
But the main reason I got it is because it's actually falls
into the class of very cool cars that everyone on the car
talk podcast loves to station wagon.
It's not a panel.
It's actually got a factory rear seat in it.
Having said that, the car's like three and a half meters long
if that.
So there's not a lot of room in the back seat, but it's all
factory.
And I didn't know that there were any station wagons in
Australia.
So I don't think I've ever seen one or a little picture of one
David Prince.
So I knew they did vans and I knew the normal ones, but I
didn't know they did like station wagons.
That's pretty cool.
Well, they're a Japanese brochure in English.
And I'm pretty sure we were the only market that got them
outside Japan is of the van version.
And there's one line in it that says also available as a
station wagon, which had had chrome wheel trims sliding side
windows, which this car doesn't have.
But yeah, I thought, okay, well, that's that's a different
proposition again.
So yeah, so surprise.
So we all know David Prince likes a set and you've got the
set now.
Yes.
So and being being so rare and unusual.
And the fact it has a 600 engine, which they never had from
the factory.
So it's sort of like a sports wagon.
Really.
You know, it's a scam sports wagon.
So I think sports wagons at your heart out.
Exactly.
Right.
Exactly.
Right.
So the the rarity of it allows for it to be somewhat
individualized.
So nice set of little 10 inch contesta mag wheels and
pubits.
My booster motor.
I think that's somebody who works on high boost, the
powered car, radical race cars.
So probably that wouldn't be a bad idea.
I think you would.
You would front a lot of people at the lights, David Prince
of your life.
Bloody hell.
What was that?
You would.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So that's that's that's sort of falling into my life too.
That's sort of that's sort of one month project.
That's a bit longer, but you know, Rome wasn't built in a
day, but talking about frightening people at the
lights, I'm about to send out around an ad.
We have a gentleman in our club who's come along to a
couple of events.
He has a first gen Honda Jazz that they bought new in
2007.
I think he said they drove it for four or five years.
Their son went to drive in and all that.
Then they parked it.
Sadly his wife who had driven the car passed away in
that time and they, but they couldn't park with the jazz
so they've, but he somewhat enhanced the jazz so that
it now has a fully engineered K 20 transplant.
Oh, so it's not so much a jazz as a sports jazz as you
like.
I suppose the theme of the night fully, fully engineered
a list of as long as your arm of applications, but done
absolutely superbly, like absolutely by the book and
completely.
It's got Alcantara, you know, dash and door trims and
steering wheel and stuff.
All the suspension's been done.
It's all Matt, all, you know, chip, you name it.
It's, it's got it.
Which gen is it David?
It's the first gen.
First gen.
So GED.
Also some photos.
Well, you'll see it.
It'll come around.
You'll see it, won't you?
They just a silver jazz.
You know, you'd look at and think, oh, that looks good.
That's got some nice wheels on it.
What you don't see is what's under the bonnet, of course.
He, it's, well, there's no secret because it's going to be in
the ad.
He's actually asking asking $60,000 for it, which is less
than what a better coin.
It's less than the receipts that he's got.
And I, just before we came on the podcast, I was checking out
Facebook, waiting for the, the invite.
I think I might let the guys from mighty car mods know about
it.
Something they're interested in.
Absolutely.
But yeah, he's, he's got receipts for quite a bit more than
that.
But that's what he's, I mean, look, it's a very limited
market.
Someone is going to spend that much on a first gen jazz.
But, you know, strange things have happened.
So did he do the swap him like he?
No, no, it was done by a workshop in Richmond in Ringwood
called Revzone.
Oh yeah, of course.
Yep.
All properly plumbed in all properly mapped.
You know, you know that it's, it's been done to it.
And he, the ad will just have the sort of the basics.
And if you want any more information, you know, you need
to let him know a bit.
Yeah.
It's, as I said, very limited market.
Someone prepared to spend that sort of money on a jazz.
But if that's what you, if that's the dream, you know, like
their, um, it's almost got a mighty car mods tax on it
before mighty car.
Yeah.
Even had one far out.
Like K20 has been done.
I've seen a couple of jazz like overseas.
I've never seen one in, in Australia done.
That would be, it'd be, that'd be such a quick car.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, what is a jazz way?
Like without, like a thousand Gila.
Yeah.
1100 maybe.
Okay.
1150 or 1050 or something like that.
Something.
Yeah.
Not a heavy car.
The first gens, you know, um, but a cracking little car,
very popular with, um, you know, nugget national nugget, nugget
races and stuff like that.
Very, very good aftermarket support for part.
Yeah.
Very cool little car.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
That is, that is cool.
Hold our thought about the jazz cause that's, that was going to be
one of our, one of our topics for tonight, but I'll talk, not the jazz
in general, but you'll understand why.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Yep.
Yep.
Hold that thought.
So there you are updates.
David.
They're my updates.
Thank you.
Chad updates with you, man.
Dopes with me.
Uh, I haven't really done a lot to be honest.
I've just been, um, waiting for parts to come in, uh, for the magna,
just bits and pieces.
Have you got your clutch fork yet?
No, it's on order.
It's, um, has to come from Japan.
Gold moxie places.
Yeah.
Look, I got an email from them, uh, uh, last week.
They said the part number that you've ordered is obsolete,
but they gave me a new part number and that seems to check out.
Okay.
You know, like for like type thing and, uh, still a Mitsubishi part
number.
So fingers crossed that is the right one.
I'm just going to wait for it to come in.
The ETA is the 30th of June.
Okay.
And so that's into their warehouse and then a shipping from them to
my address essentially.
Um, so I don't know.
I probably look at it mid July at this point.
Um, I'm waiting for the other part, which is a, the little, uh,
pivot mount or pivot, pivot ball.
I forget what they called, uh, waiting for that.
That got dispatched a couple of days ago or yesterday,
I think, and that seems to be a local part.
So yeah, I'm expecting that to rock up in the next week or so.
What else have I done?
Nothing.
It's been pretty quiet on cast for me.
Uh, I've, yeah, I've just been trying to find some time to work on
them and to blight life has been busy.
But otherwise, yeah, I've, you know, took, took my car to the
car wash on Saturday, Sunday.
And I gave it a nice little spray down.
And it immediately got, uh, um, you know,
destroyed by muddy, muddy rain and, you know, got new spray from
trucks.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And that's all for me.
Do you actually work out whether it was actually the freighter fork or
what was actually the problem with the, uh, not, not like a hundred percent,
but, um, the only thing we can think of, uh, is that it was, it's the fork
that's worn or it's the, the, the pivot ball that's inside.
That's worn.
Yeah.
Until I dropped the gearbox again and replaced those bits.
I'm not going to know.
I think it's all right.
They haven't collapsed or anything.
No, no, as far as I can tell, looking in there, it all looks still good.
But yeah.
And again, it's one of those things gearbox is going to come off to
actually inspect it properly.
So if it is a clutch, you know, spring issue or something, it's obviously
I've got to get the box off anyway.
So, um, yeah, it's, uh, just, yeah, waiting for parts.
And now I'll make some time to, yeah, to get the gearbox off again
and see how we go.
It'll be a 20 minute box out now.
Cause like you guys have done it by this point.
I mean, I feel like we can do it like a time trial and see.
Yeah.
Yeah.
See how quick you can do it.
Yeah, exactly.
It's going to, it'll be, we'll set ourselves a challenge.
We'll do it on the half an hour.
You know, that sort of thing.
Yeah.
You'd be, it'd be driving in an hour, in and out.
That's it.
Ah, well, jeez.
I mean, I hope so.
Yeah.
Very good job.
But yeah, we'll see what happens.
Updates with me, obviously been, been not able to do much.
Um, but Ed took me out on a Saturday.
He can pick me up and then said, said, you're getting out of the house.
And that was like community service, wasn't it?
It was literally community service.
So he can pick me up and went and did some stuff on the laser.
So did notice that it's had, had some, it's had paint on the driver's
side.
And when they've changed, when they've, when they've painted the doors or whatever
they've done, they didn't, they must have put like some cheap, when they've taken
the, like the inside of the doors out, they must have put some cheap door handles in
it because there was, there, I went to open the door when I was driving.
I was like, I almost cut my finger.
I was like, what the hell?
Like the, it was like the, um, the, uh, what's it called?
The silver plating sort of, the silver plating was chipping off and like, you know,
I was like, that's, I'm like, that's never happened on the, on, on, on, on.
And I checked the other side.
The other side were, were genuine Mazda parts.
These were cheap time and ease replicas.
So took one out of the one of ones I spare ones I had and bought another one and
installed that fixed the speaker because the speaker wasn't working.
So I think, um, maybe when it got hit or something, the speaker got damaged.
So I replaced the speaker, put a new plastic liner inside the door as well.
Nice.
Then I replaced the, the lights behind the dashboard, uh, in the center stack because
they were like, uh, one of them was blown.
So I just replaced them both, put that in, uh, replaced the gear knob gator and the,
and the, and the gear boot, I should say, put some pedal pads on it.
You know, like just, just did some little, you know, little tidy up jobs for the interior.
That'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, you know, make it worthwhile.
Uh, so did that.
And I think that's pretty much all I have done with cars.
I've just been, yeah, been not able to really do much with them.
So, so yeah, that's been my update.
So now getting back to what you were saying, uh, David Prince about the jazz,
a good friend of the show, Floyd, Floyd Haynes, who's, he's a listener of the show.
Um, lovely guy, big shout out to you.
He's, he's always asking or putting forward questions for the, for the podcast.
And he's like, and the question he asked is the following, what would,
what were the cars that the car company should have made?
So, and he's got, and he's given us a couple, uh, to start with.
He said, uh, an FG, RTV, because they didn't do an RTV in the FG.
Yeah.
V E slash V F crewman.
Cause they, they didn't do them in a, in a crewman.
And I was like, oh yeah, that, that's a, that's a great, that's a, you know,
that is a great topic to begin with.
He also mentioned the jazz.
He said, imagine a jazz type R.
I think a jazz type R like, like, or even like a jazz RS or something,
like a sporty, like a hot jazz, um, take on like a Suzuki sport, Fiesta ST,
I-20N, um, because, you know, they are, I mean, Chad, you'd know this,
especially like nuggets and stuff like that.
They are such a popular, you know, tuning platform.
The aftermarket support for that car is ridiculous.
So I didn't realize how, how full on it is.
You can, if you want it, you can buy it for that car.
I work with a guy that's got a really highly modified like first gen jazz
and yellow.
And, um, you know, he's, he's like, yeah, you can just buy everything for it.
And the fact that they didn't do one is, I thought it was probably a bit of a,
a bit of a misstep from, from Honda, because fundamentally it was a really,
really good car.
Definitely.
Oh, I totally agree.
The other thing I really wish they had have done on the jazz platform was a
little convertible like NMX five competitor.
I mean, it's such a, such a great chassis.
And, um, yeah, such a good size for that sort of thing.
Uh, it wouldn't, it wouldn't have been harder.
I mean, the S 2000 was quite expensive at the time when they came out,
but imagine a, imagine S 1500.
How much was an S 2000 when they were new?
They were like, like 60.
Yeah.
They were around that.
I can't remember exactly, but they were, they were not cheap.
And they're 60 now.
Yeah.
Um, so they came out in 2000.
Didn't they?
Yeah.
I think you're right.
2000 or not.
Yeah.
Um, cause the concept was, was mid 99.
99.
Okay.
What's the little two door sports version is the S 5000?
Is that what you got, Dave?
No, there's an S 660, which is a K car with the 660 DC engine.
Something.
They're cool.
Yeah.
But yeah, something in the middle would have been perfect.
You know, 15.5.
Uh, especially now they've got that 1.5 turbo.
Imagine graduating to the 1.5 turbo and a six speed.
Now that'd be,
Oh, that'd be like it.
Like they've got the fundamentals of that car there.
You know, like you've, it's, it, if they would have done a,
you know, what most car companies do to make a hot one,
like with the hot hatches, they put a bigger engine.
Like really, like it's, it's, you know,
lower the suspension a little bit and get some bigger wheels
and a body kit and happy days.
You know, send it off to the public.
You know, I think that that the jazz platform was,
there's been crying out for a, a hot one.
Yeah.
And I don't think, I don't think they've ever done a hot jazz.
No, there is an RS available in Japan.
There is now.
Yeah.
Well, from the GE there was as well.
Okay.
Um, but yeah, it's, it, it wasn't, um, it was,
you know, alloy wheels and fog lights pretty much.
So it wasn't like a hot, like a proper hot one.
It wasn't a proper hot one.
But for me, that, that's such a, that's such a big, big loss.
Like them and the Mazda two as well.
Like they never did a hot Mazda two,
which is, which is funny because that car is a fiesta ST underneath.
Like it's, it's the same, the same chassis.
Yeah.
So like they should, they share the, the, the B car platform.
And, you know, they could have just said, Hey Ford,
can we just borrow your person bits?
Yeah.
Because it's fundamentally the same car.
same color.
You say like you could get them in the same color.
Like, um, you know, they could, they could have just said,
considering how many Mazda twos they sold over fiesta's, they sort of,
I mean, it's not a lot of fiesta,
but they sort of crap time on Mazda twos.
Surely someone would have, would have bought a hot one.
Yeah.
Like it's,
I saw a jazz recently on one of the, the Facebook pages with an NSX motor
in it.
Yeah.
Bloody hell.
Wow.
So somewhere in Japan, someone's done it.
Wow.
That would be terrifying.
That's nice.
It's sitting inside the car.
Yeah.
Hang in the back of it.
Yeah.
It's like real R.
So it's rear engine.
And it's a real drive.
Yeah.
I don't think it's front wheel drive anymore.
It's a Clio V6, but in a, a jazz version.
In a jazz.
I just think there's so many opportunities for that.
Cause you know, it wouldn't, it wouldn't be that hard to,
to make cars like that happen because, you know, it's, it's been,
it's, you've got a little bits for it.
Just, you know, kind of engineer it to work a little bit.
Yeah.
If the, if the aftermarket and the tuning scene can make these things
happen, putting a K 20 in the jazz or putting a, you know, a 1.5
turbo energy, if that can be, be done by aftermarket
people who just said, oh yeah, we can make, we can make that work
and bolt it up to existing, you know, gearbox or putting,
whatever it is, you know, and making engine mounts and making them,
you know, road legal.
You know, surely there would have been people at the, you know,
I mean, Honda is near, I think now a quite a conservative company
in terms of the way they do things, but they've still got type R
program, you know, and the type, and the type R program is, is
really arguably, I think still one of the, if not the best,
you know, performance program in the thing.
Cause they don't water their brand down by just having an R line
or stuff like that, like other companies do.
It is a special car.
If it's a type R, you know, like if it's got an R badge,
it's a special car.
They could have, you know, the jazz is pretty much an EK9 size
really.
These days, you know, they've got, they've got all that, you
know, all that pedigree there, you know, they had the small one
in the Civic type R, then they had the slightly bigger one
in the Integra type R, the ultimate one in the NSX, you know,
the Integra R.
So I think that's, that's a real missed opportunity.
Yeah, missed opportunity, which is, you know,
consuming in the aftermarket how popular they are.
I think that's a big one.
It's funny.
I mean, they're huge in Japan in the rental fleet and the sort
of business, you know, fleet cars, sales reps and things like
that, especially the shuttles, the station wagon versions that
we didn't get here except now is Gray's, but it's funny.
In Europe, they're considered an old person's car.
So, you know, they, they produced jazzes in the UK for quite
a while at Swindon, but that was quite, it was a bit of a running
joke amongst people who had jazzes that they are just bought
by old people.
So yeah, there was certainly, they didn't think there was the
demand to do a hot version, I'm sure, given the demographic that
it was attracting.
But yeah, there's certainly, I mean, we're, we're different
sort of people, aren't we?
And that we want the sporty or the cooler version of most things
that we can get.
David, you, I mean, you say that, but like Japan, like Mugen and
Spoon, they all make parts for it there.
Like, you know, they've made their, their, their house, you know,
like they've made a Spoon, you know, jaz that or fit, whatever
it is called over there, which they, which they've been on a
race track and like, you know, you surely that they're saying,
oh, well, if the tuning companies are getting behind these, and
these are, these are massive names.
Yeah.
Like these, you know, Mugen and Spoon are like, arguably the
leaders in Honda, you know, tuning companies, the fact that
they're doing it, surely they would have said, you know, that's
actually not a bad idea.
Let's, let's, let's make our own one.
You know, they did city turbos, you know, that they're not
adverse to it to a hot, small car.
So yeah, I just think that's a really big missed opportunity
because, you know, the hot hatch or the affordable hot hatch,
you know, little segment is pretty much gone now.
Like there's, there's the only thing that's left is I-20N
or a Suzuki Swift Sport.
So yeah, kind of, kind of a real, real big sport in the new one.
I don't know.
There's not, they carried the previous shape sport over for a while.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I don't know if they're still selling it anymore, but like,
I know in Japan that they, like they're selling them side by
side.
So yeah, a bit of a sad one.
So I want to leave it in your cable hands, gentlemen.
What are some of the missed opportunities we can't go in there?
They don't have to be the hot one.
They could, they could have just been a really cool version of it.
I think Toyota are on the right track, aren't they with their GRs?
They are.
Yes.
Yeah.
Hopefully the other Japanese companies will follow suit.
Yeah.
It's interesting that, you know, that obviously you think of the GR Corolla
and the GR Yaris, but they actually now do it.
They do a GR Cruiser.
They do a GR Rev.
They do a GR, what's the baby crossover?
Yeah.
Yaris Corolla.
Yeah.
And they do a GR, no, a transgression.
Yeah.
But they're not, they're not as full on as the edging sort of thing.
They're not as full on as the Corolla and the Yaris.
And it's unfortunate.
Nissan don't have a large enough range to have a certain car to do that to.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, if Scotty was here, he'd talk about Ashes, not Nismo, no.
No.
They do them in other parts of the world, but yeah, they're just not choosing to do it here.
Okay.
That's not for like a try, I don't think.
Like, you know, the Nissan Z, you know, you know, it's a, it is a good performance car
and the Nismo, they've just offered it now with a manual, which is, which is what people
have been begging for, but watch it sell 33 versions of it.
Yeah.
You know, it's not for like a trying.
I just, I just think, you know, the demand of those things are gone.
You know, like it's as sad as it is to say.
So yeah.
Volkswagen did do a KERDI-R.
Did they do a KERDI-R?
No.
I'd like them to.
Have you seen the KERDI conversion, the R conversion on YouTube?
Oh, it's actually got all the R parts and fruit in the KERDI.
Wow.
The interior, the motor, the whole lot.
Wow.
Yeah.
Looks good.
Yeah.
That'd be cool.
That would be cool.
There you go.
There is one out there, but it's not factory.
So David Prince, when your DSG decides to file in, what we're going to do is we're
going to buy a wrecked Golf R and just, just, just combine.
Nice.
I'm sure it would work.
I'm sure it would just slide over the top.
There were a few little differences and there's a bit of work and getting it all working.
I think the actual engine management system as well was a bit of a sort of a, yeah,
hard thing to do, but I've got, I've got a red stripe across my grill.
So I'm halfway there and I've got the Highline Golf alloy wheels on it.
So it does look good with those wheels.
Actually, I'm not going to lie.
I washed it a couple of weeks ago and which is really hard this weather, trying to keep
it looking good.
And someone actually said to me, did you have a new van?
I said, no, no, this is now six years old.
I've had it, you know, like the same van.
Yeah.
So when it scrubs up, it looks good.
Have you got it lowered?
No, no, no.
It's going to get lowered.
It's going to get lowered.
My golf is the first thing I did.
Actually, the back part is lowered.
The back part, it does sit high in the front because I'm looking back.
All the archeological dig of stuff that I've got and layers of stuff I've got in there
that, oh, that's where that went.
You go in for like, you find things you haven't seen in six years.
Exactly right.
Because every time I do a deep dive into the back, it drops up really.
Oh, would you look at that?
Coming out with a hot car again.
What was that?
A rope?
Mazda.
Are they not coming out with a hot?
I think they've been talking that they've been doing this or doing that, but nothing's
really come to fruition yet.
I've seen two that the Mazda 2 ship must have come in.
I've seen two brand new Mazda 2s on the road in the last week, like brand spanking, you
know, a completely brand new plate that the inside the wheel arches is completely shiny
and tire black still on the car.
It's still the same car.
How long has that all been running like now?
That is an old, old design.
Isn't that great?
You can't have a date.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It still looks good, I've got to say.
I mean, there's nothing, nothing jarringly terrible about it.
But it's still a car now.
The price is all good at that.
Don't change it for 14 years or something.
If it ain't broke.
Don't fix this.
So what do we think?
So we've got to cut it off for David Prince, who would be the one and only buyer of that
car.
Him and everyone else that needs a, you know, wagon or sorry, a fast, a fast, yeah, like
wagon type thing will work then.
Get me there on time.
Absolutely.
I mean, me in general, I just wish there was a wagon version of every, everything ever
made.
Yeah.
I think that would make it, you know, just give us the choice.
Now, I'm guessing what Maddie said round earlier is type is AI.
Yeah.
Yeah.
My goodness, a type of civic wagon looked.
Oh, God, I look good.
Did you know that?
I'll show you.
This guy, um, mocked up a type R version of a, like a wagon type R.
Hmm.
Oh, okay.
It looked, it looked the business.
So it looked awesome.
Check this out.
Hang on.
Is that right?
That looks pretty cool.
It's better than the hatch.
I think it does too.
I think that looks, I think it looks epic.
Looks like it should be.
How much you'd say buying one of those instead of an M3 wagon?
Oh man, I'd have one of those all day.
I like the idea of an M3 wagon, but only for the first two years and then get rid of it.
That kind of reminds me of like, uh, how they made the accord euro wagon in the, in, for
the European market.
That's so good.
Um, and it kind of like, when I first saw one, I was like, man, that it's like such a natural
looking car.
Yeah.
That's how it should have been released everywhere.
Uh, you know, yet we didn't get that here, obviously.
A guy, um,
Considered too close to Odyssey.
They thought it would cannibalize Odyssey sale.
Whatever.
It's so weird.
It's just, it's like, I feel, I don't feel like it's even the new, uh, same market that's
looking at those two cars.
Not at all.
Not at all.
They're like, I don't see six Cedar, seven Cedar, a different configuration, obviously.
So no one's looking for a five Cedar wagon who's going to consider an Odyssey.
No, that's right.
It's just ranting.
I reckon, no, look, we're now population goes to, you know, 300 million the way we're going.
Uh, we'll have a larger selection of cars.
I think.
Yeah.
They'll all be Chinese.
Tell you what I do like.
I mean, this is kind of getting off topic, but, uh, the B Y D C L wagon.
I'm really into it.
Oh yeah.
I'm just glad that someone's making a wagon again.
That is a, that's a good looking car.
It's a good looking car.
And it's, it looks natural again.
Like it does just sit down and looks good.
But then you look at the wagon and go, yeah, why wouldn't it be a wagon?
You know what it means?
Like it's like people, um, it's like car companies have to think about making wagons.
But when they make them and like they hit the bright points and then you're like,
well, yeah, of course, you know, 100%.
Like, um, I think we mentioned that car a few times in this show, but like, you know,
it just, it's, it looks, I think it looks better in a wagon too.
Like, I think, I think it finishes off really nicely.
So, you know, Holden did it with the VE and VF that made the sports wagon.
And it's a good looking wagon.
Yeah.
And, and I said, I said to people before, you know, Ford should have done it with the Falcon.
Um, but they, they're like, nah, they would have taken it.
The same thing you said David about cannibalizing, you would have cannibalized territory sales.
That's right.
Territories are seven seeder, first and foremost.
And it's an SUV.
It's a hired seeding position.
Yeah.
Different market.
Different market again.
Like, why didn't they?
I mean, look, the, to be fair, the B series wagon was only ever sold as an XT or a Futura
from memory.
And it went into, it went into mark three, which the sedans didn't.
Um, and it sold alongside the, the, you know, the, the FG.
Um, but like, it was just from, and it was only sold to fleet sales and Telstra.
You know, they're the people.
Yeah.
But, you know, I think the hold in sports wagon proved that, and they, they saw that
alongside the Captiva.
Proved that, you know, a wagon was, was, was very much liked.
And the fact that you could get like an SS wagon and a manual, like, oh, yes, please.
You know what I mean?
There's a lot of car.
Oh my God.
Yeah.
So well, he's a Mustang four door.
I had that already, Rob.
I think it's called the E-Mac.
Yeah.
Oh, no, not like that.
That's crap.
The Mustang four door.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They have arrived.
Do you know what it was called?
No.
Falcon.
Falcon GT.
Bring it back.
Bring it back.
I agree.
Bring it back.
You know, I mean, they won't have a door, but there's been some renderings of a four door.
And have you guys seen the renderings of the four door Mustangs?
Like, like actually just, it's, it looks, it looks good.
I'm like, yeah, I get it.
Yeah.
Like it's, it should be done.
It'll work.
So yeah, I don't know.
That's pretty sad that that doesn't exist.
But Rob, correct me if I'm wrong, but they, they concept, concepted a P76 wagon.
Is that true?
They built two in the factory.
Yeah.
They used one as a workhorse.
Wow.
Oh, really?
And it really worked.
It was a much more, more, a much nicer.
Sorry, Rob.
That was a nicer looking car than the sedan.
I think so.
Yeah.
I agree.
I'll go to you.
With the 47 coupe too.
I think that was a nicer car too.
But the wagon, the wagon, it worked as a wagon best, I thought.
Really cool.
But I think, um, given them, you know, time, few model, you know, refinements, model changes
and, you know, get rid of some of the sharp edges and round things off.
Maybe they would have, you know, been a quite a nice car, but they didn't get that chance.
Unfortunately.
How long was the P76 on sale for?
About three years, 72 to 74.
See, it's not, it's not long enough for all that development costs and everything they
did to it.
Like it's just, it just isn't what happened to Leyland.
They'll go and bust in England and they pretty much shut everything down and sold everything
off.
Yeah.
Well, yeah.
That is a shame.
Time.
What other ones should they have made, gentlemen?
I think Mazda now, I think we talked about this engine the other day actually, Marty,
the new generation of their inline six engines.
I think they need to stick that in some sort of a coupe, two door thing, because how is
that not like, you know, a super competitor or a BMW M competitor?
Yeah.
It's the perfect platform, at least the engine wise, but I mean, you know, RX nine with an
inline six, I think would fucking sell, I think it would sell like hotcakes.
Absolutely.
Chad, we can tell.
I think, you know, I went to Chad, like, you know, it's funny, they've got platforms,
you know, if they based a new Mazda six platform as a real drive platform, they could shorten
it, make it a coupe, you know, and do all those things.
It wouldn't be hard.
I mean, if Australia can figure that out with the Monaro, you know, shortening a Commodore
essentially, surely Mazda with all their resources could could could produce something
because I said it a few times in the show in the last year or so, like Mazda is a kind
of a nothing company for me.
They're just hovering now.
Like they just they just there to make nine different SUVs.
And that's all they make.
Yeah.
Like that's that is it.
And they're bringing a 14 year old Mazda to round out the range.
Actually, that would be nice.
A Mazda three with a straight six and a bit like the BMW.
Yeah.
That would be a good combination.
That'd be a cracking.
It'd be a 130 up reliable.
It'll work.
Exactly.
No, I'm with you on that.
So I think there's, you know, they can do something there for sure.
I'm detecting a theme wagon manual.
Fast.
Fast.
Yeah.
Fast.
Hot hatches.
Fast.
I think, um, like, why don't we have a caddy youth here in Australia?
Well, you know, it started out as a youth.
Yeah.
Correct.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
Robert.
It was called a caddy.
Actually, the first gen golf youth in America was called the caddy.
Sorry.
The first gen golf in America was the rabbit, but it was cool.
It was just called Volkswagen caddy.
Yeah.
Like, I don't know why that isn't a thing.
You know, it's any of those, those little vent, you know, because, but, but again,
I guess with the compensating tax of owning a Ranger or something like that,
wanting to, to compensate for something, um, you know, you're, it'd be like,
I'm gonna buy that, that, you know, that small little car, but like, you know,
you'd say, I think there is nothing that has replaced a Falcon Commodore.
Really?
Is there like, there's nothing's kind of, nothing's replaced it.
And people love those when they, they were out, like, like,
10 years ago, all, all, all tradies were driving were, were, were youths or like,
like proper, like, like Australian made youths.
Only somewhere in dual cabs and the rest were in vans.
You know, like it's, it's, no one makes like a, a rancher or, or Camino or anything
like that anymore.
And like a car-based youth.
And in America, the Maverick, the new Ford Maverick's been a bit of a,
a success story because it's, it's like, the right size.
There's a small, you know, car-based, car-based youth.
You know, that's, that's such a, that's such an untapped market again.
Like if someone wants to bring it, bring a youth back, like a car-based youth that,
that can haul it, haul one ton, have a one ton payload, you know,
whack your tools in it, be far better drive than any of these dual cabutes.
And we,
Subaru are trying to bring something back, aren't they?
They've been talking, they've been talks about that, but I, like,
that's been like 50 years to, to bring a Bromby back and better commerce, but.
Yeah.
There's a Rev4 base youth to a big talk to that as well.
Yes.
I did see that.
Hmm.
And we touched on 12 no, no, concepts.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I just think that's, that's such an untapped market.
Like that's being, how I mean being,
because it's a premium brand, they wouldn't offer a utility youth.
But like, like, I mentioned a youth three series, like.
You know, there is a youth five series.
There is.
You would Apple be, the golfer actually had one made.
He did.
Yeah.
It's an M5 too, I think it was.
I think there was Middle Eastern country that didn't allow Mercedes to bring in Ford or
the Texas too high.
So they turned them into youths.
So there's actually factory built Mercedes youths.
Wow.
Built in the 60s or 70s.
Wow.
Yeah.
There's just so many options.
Floyd's given us a few more, which I'll go through with you guys.
And I'd love to get your opinion on these because these, these are quite,
these are quite great.
Great that he's mentioned.
He's like Mitsubishi should have offered a 380 wagon.
And he was like, he's like, that would, that would have maybe possibly helped it.
Land Cruiser 70 series four by two so that it could be mini trucked, you know,
like, cause, cause people, you know, people like that or like a,
like a, a work mate version of a, of a 70 series.
I think, I think that's not a bad idea to be fair.
I think that's, I think that's a cracking idea.
He also said a later model of territory F six X, which I,
which I actually laughed at.
I thought that was quite funny.
Um, he, um, you know, because he's like, can't see what other people think.
Imagine like a, a rally art Triton or a, or a Nismo, um,
Navarra, like, yeah.
Like, but like, but like a prop, probably done one.
You know, like, they've got the TRD highlights.
Like the TRD highlights. Absolutely.
What are you saying?
The, uh, Navara pro X warrior thing is not a performance.
You guys, what do you say?
Yeah, chat, chat, chat.
It's it.
The Azuzu D max max blade glow.
Is that a hot version?
Well, got stripes.
Yeah.
Black wheels.
Good stuff.
I just think that this, yeah, like, like that, that's a cool opportunity.
Like the last mirage they had, Rob, you, you had one.
Your, your wife loved it.
She and, and I know you liked it.
Um, you see, you saved my backside in that car.
Uh, 11 cold miserable.
Yes.
They've been breathing.
You know, imagine if they would have done like a fun one of that.
Like, you're like, uh,
They sort of did, but didn't get all the way there.
They, they done all the spoilers and all that and made it sort of look nice and sporty,
but they didn't do anything with the engine.
Yeah.
They should have done the cult, uh, rally art, but in a mirage.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, I'm pretty sure it's the same platform or very similar platforms.
There was a rally Atlanta for a little while.
There was.
Oh,
Yeah.
So it is you.
228.
Pick up.
I think you need one of those.
Well, how to be your perfect car.
I reckon.
Yeah.
No.
No.
There's a couple of guys, um, converted their P 76s into youths and they look
shocking.
Really?
You're bad.
There's a guy in America has converts.
Okay.
Civic sedans into youths.
Wow.
They actually look really cool.
Like to mini truck as they call them.
Mini truck.
Mini truck.
Sure.
Yeah.
Sure.
Yeah.
I always wanted to do actually.
I had a Suzuki Swift many years ago and that was fun, but it wasn't one of those hot hatch
versions.
That wasn't the GTI.
Um, but I always wanted to do a swap and turbo it.
No, never got a chance to do it.
I reckon that would have been fun.
Just a sleeper.
There's so much fun to drive.
They're like a go-kart again.
I used to love driving the old Suzuki Swift.
They're like that.
They're a,
we're cracking little car.
So out of the cars, I had the Swift, I had a gets and the Mirage.
I think the Swift was the best out of the three.
Oh, right.
Okay.
Yeah.
So I think the Swift was just a better driving car.
Mmm.
Keybox in the last long, but it was a good better car.
I've always liked the gets.
Imagine if they would have done a hot gets.
Ooh.
I'd be, I'd be all, I'd be all about that.
Are we considering the 1.6 big block, the hot one?
The 1.6, the big block, or they could have put a two liter from a, what's it called,
an Elantra or something?
Elantra.
An N swapped gets.
An N swapped gets.
That'd be nuts.
I mean, that's kind of like K20 swapping a jazz.
That's the same thing.
Someone's got to do it.
Man, maybe I'll be the first actually.
How much does it get?
You get like 500 bucks, man.
Like this, this, this, this.
I've got like,
I've got a gets for you.
It just blew up.
It actually dropped the,
the valve, the, the actual can.
Perfect.
Snapped and ruined the motor.
I can get one for 200 bucks if you, if you want it.
Oh, no gets.
You know what would go good in that?
Like a Sonata or a Elantra turbo motor,
like a two liter or 1.6 turbo.
Yeah.
Can I imagine that?
It would absolutely rip.
I've got enough projects.
Maybe in another lifetime.
Breaking stones.
Anything can happen.
Anything can happen.
Any last ones, gentlemen,
before we move on to the quiz.
Just cause I own one.
A 190 wagon.
That would have been great.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like a one W one 16 wagon.
A W one 40.
I mean, look, come on.
It's all, again, we just come back to wagons.
Yeah.
But, um,
I think they really missed the boat with that cause cause I made a 30s
and you know, you know, wagon.
Yeah.
So they rectified in the I two to the two 002.
You could get a wagon.
And I reckon the next wagons to W two to wagon.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
They did to you.
I reckon that'll be the next wagon to go once people remember them
after the 12 threes and the 12 fours.
I can't tell you the last one I've seen in a wagon,
like just don't remember.
Yeah.
They've got the two.
Oh three.
Is it the two or three C 36 wagon?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But did the two or two come in any hot version?
It did.
It did.
Again.
Is that C 32?
Yes.
36.
No, 32 C 32.
They in a two and talking in a two or two.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Two or two show.
They did a 36 and they did a 43 in a wagon.
Yeah.
Oh, I see 43.
Yes.
Wow.
Ed's main had one for years and he sold it recently.
I think.
Yeah, Benny Busu.
Oh really?
Wow.
Jeez.
12 years.
Apparently he loved it and he thought it was a great car.
I just drove a basic C class wagon with the current sort of,
I don't know, generation, whatever model that number that is.
And it was quite nice.
It's quite practical.
And it's set on auto bonnet 220 pretty nicely as well.
So they're a nice car.
I think anything in the wagon is good.
Yep.
No, I agree.
So car talk top tip.
If you are car companies want to impress us,
you've got to make a wagon.
You've got to make it manual.
It's got to go fast.
Absolutely.
It's got to go fast.
Straight six turbo like the Barris.
That's it.
Bring it back.
Bring it back.
I'm looking at some people I've mentioned in this idea.
A few people are saying there's a lot of Honda things that they,
they said it should have been a Honda Fit or Honda Jazz Si.
Would have been the spec against a Fiesta ST.
People said that a V8 should have appeared in a Supra.
I don't know how I feel about that one.
That's a Sora.
Yeah.
That is a Sora.
It's exactly what it is.
It's a Lexus.
Yeah.
Is it IS 500?
Is it?
Yeah.
Oh, the new ones.
Is there a V8?
Yeah.
Yeah.
IS 500.
It's a sedan.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That is a two door.
Is it LC 500 or something?
I'm sure.
Oh, LC.
Yeah.
That's like spaceship looking thing.
Yeah.
When's it coming out?
It's already out.
Is that LC 500?
Oh, it's LC 500.
Sorry.
Yeah.
I'll talk about that concept.
The GR GT, whatever it's called that.
Oh, that thing.
I mean, that is a, that's a super of a V8, isn't it?
It is pretty much, yeah.
Yeah.
Here's one for you, David Prince, before you, you are, what's it called say,
suckrelidge?
People are saying that they should have done it.
It's got a lot of likes, Honda S2000 Coupe.
Oh, yes.
Have you seen one with a hardtop?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Bloody hell.
Basically a Supra.
Yeah, LC 500.
Yeah.
Yeah.
One of my all-time favorite looking things is an S2000 with a spoon hardtop.
Oh, right.
I'll try and find a photo and send.
Man.
It is so cool.
It essentially just turns it into a...
I'll send it in the chat here, sorry.
Another person said,
the current M3 such as M4 without the stupid grill.
Yeah, I think we've got some really good options.
I think Mazda need to bring back the Mazda MPS.
I think their MPS range was kind of fun in their three MPS.
Give them as a three some sort of recognition again,
because it's a bit of a dying car.
I don't know if that's going to work.
It's expensive and out of reach now anyway, so it doesn't matter.
Yeah, that's true.
If it's 80,000, 70,000, 90,000, who cares?
Who's got that sort of money?
No, you're right. Absolutely right.
Yeah.
All right, well, shall we get to the quiz, gentlemen?
Let's go.
I want to leave this thought with you and see if we can...
if we can come back to it and have a think.
All right, let's get to the car quiz.
So, gentlemen, you know the rules.
10 questions plus some bonus questions.
I've got some couple of brochure questions in there as well.
We've only got three plays tonight, but that doesn't mean anything bad.
So, we've got David, we've got Rob, and we've got Chad.
Question one, Ford, doing nothing good for PI as usual,
have said that Kia and great wheel motors with GWM
are using what as a marketing ploy?
They've come out this week and really slammed GWM and Kia
for using something as a marketing ploy.
What are they using as a marketing ploy in Ford's eyes?
Is it their, like, Chad?
Is it their, like, EV range or something?
No, incorrect.
Oh, I have a guess. Fear.
Fear? No, incorrect.
Okay. I don't know.
I've got no idea.
They said it's a marketing ploy to use Australian suspension tuning.
Here's what they've said.
And I've said that that is absolutely ridiculous
because, like, at least they're not doing wet timing belts in their engines.
Insane.
It didn't range it to just bring out a new four-cylinder with a cam chain.
With a chain. They've somewhat listened, but it's got, like, a lot less power.
So, that's that.
She says like this.
So, yeah. So, Ford, you know, you're complaining that they're actually using Australian suspension tuning.
Get your body engineering right.
They also the same thing complained.
Well, the head of Ford, Jim Farley, complained that Australia's manufacturing cost,
like engineering costs and stuff are too expensive here.
And he's like, and he threatened Australia by saying, you know,
make it cheaper, otherwise we're going to completely pull out of Australia.
I'm like, who are you to say that sort of stuff?
Go and screw yourself, mate.
Question number two.
Holden built two one-off models for the 2000 Sydney Olympics to go to go again with their, you know, their Olympic edition cars.
What two models did they build a one-off special for of each?
Oh, that's a good question.
So the one-offs, but they never made production models. Is that right?
So no, it was it's based off a base of cars in the range, but they made like one of versions of it.
So like they had like upgraded interiors and like extra badging and stuff.
Chad, I'm going to guess a VT Commodore coupe.
Incorrect Chad. Good guess.
Damn.
It's Australian made. It's a good guess.
So there were two, right?
So, so that would have made for each a character and a Commodore.
I'll give you one point for the Commodore because it was bait.
It was like they did a limited edition one-off one Calais.
I'll give you one point for that.
There was another one of one they did.
I'll go. I'll go. I guess it was probably used.
It was not. It was a statesman.
They did a one-off one statesman and they did a one-off Calais.
Now, I will read to you what that car had because it was quite, you know, it was, it was quite a special, you know, thing made.
So there it is there. That's your, that's your.
Right.
Your statesman.
Yeah.
With all that badging and like embossed leather and stuff.
So it had in 2000 Holden quietly created two custom Olympic Holdens for the prime minister's Olympic dinner.
So it was made for, for a dinner.
And they sold for a, for a, I won't give the amount in one night.
So one-off builds for the city Olympics.
The cars was, it was called the Holden statesman was called the Olympic dream and the supercharged Calais was called the Olympic spirit.
So, if you want it, Rob's doing it. Well, he won't be doing it for much longer. So, if you want to
see me, he's doing it for a little bit longer. I might need to make an appointment with you,
a consultation appointment with you, Rob. Absolutely. I can show you how to feel
in this 34 form with my aged care and Centrelink and do all your asset assessments the whole
lot. Nice. From end to end, from retiring to aged care. Time to do a means test and all that.
Means yes, the whole lot. Way to go. You're the man. Rob, am I too early to retire, you reckon?
Just a touch. Give it a 10. Okay. I'll 45. I want to be retired. Yeah. Work at it. You
find a way. Shop a car. You'll be loaded. Absolutely not. You'll be loaded. That's crazy.
Stephanie's crazy talk. Buy a big house. No, sorry. Buy a small house, big garage. Big
house. We're going to have to make that. Chad, anything you want to plug? Chad's
bringing it. Just deliveries. Just order stuff. Stimulate the economy. Get stuff delivered.
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The conversation swings from “should have been made” car fantasies to real-world repair headaches. They compare what enthusiasts want—manual, fast wagons and hot-hatch/wagon variants—to how manufacturers and dealers fall short. Along the way, they swap stories about insurance-directed bodywork, parts that can’t be canceled, and misaligned panels after repairs. The show also covers projects and swaps (K20s, engine donors, DSG fixes), plus a quiz that lands on models like the Daihatsu Rocky and Mitsubishi Verada.
On this episode of Car Torque, Matty, Chad, Rob and David discuss their latest updates. The boys also discuss cars that should have existed, as missed opportunities are always discussed. As the saying goes, hindsight is a wonderfull thing!
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