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Okay, welcome back to another edition of My Car Guru.
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I do a lot of confessing on this show.
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It's a cleansing thing.
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It's kind of like washing your car.
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You got all that dirt and filth and you just got to get rid of it, got to wash it away.
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That's what I'm doing right now, so here goes.
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I do drive a little too fast.
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I also occasionally will text while driving, and in my career, I have sold cars to people
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who have no business buying the car that they're buying, and finally, I do get angry sometimes
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when I'm driving at other drivers who don't know that I'm angry, but I'm angry at what
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they do knowing full well that I probably do things that make them angry.
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So that's pretty much it.
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That's all the confessing for today.
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I can already feel like I have a weight lifted off my shoulders, but there's one more confession
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I have, I don't know how you say it, biases or biases.
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I've got bias against certain brands of cars, types of cars, and it's pretty evident,
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I guess if you listen to this program long enough.
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My daughter pointed out one, my youngest daughter, Audra.
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She said, Dad, you don't say really good things about Hyundai, and the way you say it,
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it's almost like you're making fun of people who drive Hyundai's.
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I know why people buy Hyundai's.
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I think that, hmm, let me think here just a sec.
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Oh yeah, they used to have really competitive pricing.
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They have very unique and innovative designs.
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So that's about all I can say about them.
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But you know, if you buy them, you got a good reason because they're pretty, right?
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I mean, is that a good reason to buy a car?
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I think for some people it is.
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And if you feel like you're getting a lot of car for the money, I mean, that's
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a great reason to buy a car if you ignore everything else.
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And over the years, I have developed some opinions.
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One of those I want to share with you today, I want to share with you the
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top 10 best American cars that have been sold since 1960.
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And I'm also going to talk about the 10 worst American cars since 1960, realizing full well
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that there's a lot of you that haven't been around since 1960.
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I was talking to somebody the other day.
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They're actually driving a car and they were born in 2008.
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I mean, to me, they should still be in diapers.
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But yeah, I was thinking about this the other day.
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My brother and I were having a little conversation trying to distract each other from our worldly
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And I said, well, if you could have, let's say that you had a 10 car garage, we like
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If you had a 10 car garage, what 10 cars or trucks or SUVs would you put in that garage?
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And this is all the vehicles that you will ever be able to have.
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And so we start naming stuff.
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And a lot of them are older stuffs, you know, not modern cars, just a few modern vehicles
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that that we really like.
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But you know, it's just the simple older stuff that really appeals to both of us.
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And you know, and that has an, I guess, an artistic component to it.
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So many vehicles just look so boring now.
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I mean, my grandson had a baseball tournament.
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So and it's exciting, believe it or not, you can go to watch a bunch of six year olds and
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seven year olds play baseball, actually followed the rules of baseball.
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The coach is pitching, but other than that, and it's pretty enlightening.
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I mean, like one of the games the score was like 14 to one.
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There was another one that was like 19 to 16.
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They ended up winning the tournament.
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And they actually know where to run.
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They know how to, whether they need to touch the base to get somebody out or they have
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Isn't that amazing?
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I don't think I could do that at six.
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I didn't have that much awareness.
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But one thing I am aware of, and that's how many boring cars there are in the
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parking lots, all of them are SUVs.
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And the ones that aren't SUVs are pickup trucks.
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I don't remember seeing a single car.
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I might have seen a Nissan Altima and a Honda Accord, but in a parking lot full of a
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sea of small SUVs, Toyota RAV4s, Honda CRVs, Hyundai Santa Fe's, Nissan Rogues.
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It's just, I mean, they're great vehicles.
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And I understand why they buy them too, but none of them are on my favorite list.
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And if I am a Nissan dealer, no, the things that turn us on as brothers are older stuff
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for the most part, but also ground breakers.
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And I'll get into that here in just a second.
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Okay, 10 best American cars since 1960.
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Number one, what would be your number one?
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Everybody that lived back then, mostly males probably, but some females will be able
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to pick something from the 60s that they really like, but really, probably one of the
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most successful cars of all time is the Mustang, the 1964 and a half Mustang, which was introduced
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at the New York World's Fair in 1964.
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I was there, my dad won a contest to take us there, and it was quite exciting, except
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he was a Chevrolet guy through and through at the time and could care less about Ford.
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That Ford managed to sell over 400,000 units in that first year, making it a record breaker
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for the Ford Motor Company.
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And the first pony car, that's what they call them, pony cars.
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It's the Ford Mustang, the Chevrolet Camaro, and the Dodge Challenger.
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Oh yeah, I forgot, the AMC Javelin, remember them?
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That was considered a pony car as well, but that all started with a car named after
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a pony, the Mustang, or a baby Mustang, or a very small Mustang.
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I don't know the difference between a pony and a Mustang.
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Okay, the second best car made since the 60s, 1963 Chevrolet Corvette Stingray.
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Corvette people refer to that car as C2, so it was the second generation of the Corvette,
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and it really cemented the reputation of the Corvette as really America's sports car.
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Because it was really much more of a sports car, faster car than the original Mustang
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was, but Mustang kind of caught up in certain ways, and they ended up racing a lot against
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Okay, number three, 2015 through 2023, this isn't biased, folks.
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This is fact, Ford F-150.
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And you know what really made it unique?
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A lot of people made fun of it, Chevrolet made fun of it, Ram made fun of it.
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They're not making fun of it now.
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It's made out of aluminum.
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The whole body's made out of aluminum.
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So Ford took a big risk, and it really paid off, and it helped them maintain status
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as America's best-selling vehicle.
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Okay, number four would be the 1984.
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This is surprising for some of you, but the Chrysler Minivans.
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The Dodge Caravan, the Plymouth Voyager, the Chrysler Town and Country.
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I mean, they invented, I say they, Lee Iacocca and his designing engineers, invented a segment.
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It saved Chrysler, and it changed the family vehicle forever.
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I mean, there aren't many, many van makers left.
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I mean, Chrysler still makes one.
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It's the only vehicle they sell.
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And then you've got Honda and Kia, and let's see, Toyota.
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So they're the ones making the minivans and making the money selling the minivans.
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The number five best vehicle, 2020 through 2024 Chevrolet Corvette.
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Yep, Corvette does it again.
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So what's the difference?
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Well, mid-engine layout.
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They talked about it since the 60s.
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At some point, they're going to put a mid-engine.
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And why is that such a big deal?
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It's because the fastest, most expensive sports cars in the world are mid-engine.
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If you look at Ferrari, Lamborghini, McLaren, all of those cars are mid-engine.
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Now no, the Porsche is not its rear engine, but the Corvette finally decided, you know,
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if we're going to capture this youth market and we're going to be able to beat everybody
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at the racetrack, we're going to have to slap a mid-engine in this thing.
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And it was courageous and it paid off.
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Now if you're wondering why there are things like Escalade's, GMC Denali's, Ford Expeditions
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with the King Ranch or the Platinum package, it's because of one vehicle.
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The 1991 Jeep Grand Cherokee.
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It was the first luxury SUV because they decided to slap leather in it, put a nice sound system
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in it, make it relatively comfortable.
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And really, it was the first one.
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All the others were pretty utilitarian up to that point.
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But the Grand Cherokee changed the segment.
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Number seven, Tesla Model S. You know, the first time I drove one, it was a guy that
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has a business up the road for me.
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And he's very successful and he was an innovator, is an innovator.
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And he had a Tesla Model S and they pulled up in front of Gateway Ford and I said, I don't
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believe what I'm seeing.
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And it was incredible from a power standpoint.
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But I mean, it sounded like it was going to fall apart.
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I've never heard more rattles and squeaks in a vehicle.
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And the fit and finish was terrible.
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But you know, Elon Musk figured it out.
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And that was a segment change.
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You know, if he hadn't done the things that he did politically, his company would still be
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doing incredibly well.
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Now they're getting outsold in certain areas.
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And I think this last month was the first month that Tesla was outsold in EVs by General
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I mean, what a turnaround in a bad way for Tesla.
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But they changed the game as far as EVs are concerned.
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Now the Trump administration has dialed it back and they're eliminating the $7,500 tax credit.
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So if you want an EV, you better jump in because it ends on September 30th.
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Not in 2032, like they had originally planned, like Biden had planned now.
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It ends this September 30th, 2025.
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So if you really want an EV, you better come down to Gateway Ford and get Wendy
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Sonning, get you one.
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That's a little bit biased.
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Another confession.
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Another great American car was kind of helped along by Mercedes-Benz.
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You remember when Mercedes bought the Chrysler Corporation or Daimler-Benz bought the Chrysler
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You probably don't.
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It was probably not even a blip on your radar screen.
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But in the auto industry it was a big deal because we thought, well, you know, maybe
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Mercedes will straighten out that company that builds, you know, substandard quality
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They had a good impact.
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Matter of fact, they came out with something called the Dodge Charger and the Dodge Challenger.
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And they were built on a Mercedes, or a shared Mercedes platform.
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I think Mercedes used it on their E-Class.
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I rented one of these cars.
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My wife and I were on the big island.
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And we were wanting to go see Kilauea, the big volcano.
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And so we rented, you know, I went to rent a car and they said, you know, what do you
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Do you want this or that?
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And that was a Dodge Charger.
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And I said, yeah, give me one of those.
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I've never driven one.
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I want to see what it's like.
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I can understand why the police like them so much.
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They make tremendous police cars.
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And I think they hold up pretty well.
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But anyway, they were going to eliminate the vehicle recently.
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And there was a big uproar from the dealer body.
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And they were going to convert the charger and the Challenger to electric.
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Didn't fly with the dealers.
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So they fired the CEO and they got a new CEO and they're coming back out with this car.
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So the Dodge Charger of 1969, when it first came out, was, it was a trend setter.
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And it set them on a path where they could be competitive with the Camaros and the
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Mustangs of the world.
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Okay, another Ford came along in 2005 and 2006.
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And that was pretty much it.
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It was called the Ford GT.
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And it had gold wing doors.
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It was the same Ford.
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Well, it was a copy of the Ford GT that won Le Mans back in 1966.
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They got first, second and third.
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It's what that movie Ford versus Ferrari was based on.
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Did you see that movie about Carol Shelby and Henry Ford or the deuce as his nickname
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was, Henry Ford the second, who was actually Henry Ford's grandson.
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Henry Ford's only child was Edsel Ford.
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Edsel Ford had several children and one of which was the deuce, Henry Ford junior or
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Okay, but the Ford GT was unbelievable that came out in 2005.
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I had one for a while.
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And I think that the retail price on it was somewhere around 130, 135,000.
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If I had that car today, I could put it on an auction website and in seven days I would
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have approximately $460,000 to $550,000.
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That's how much that car has gone up in value.
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What made it really innovative was the fact that it was put together by a team of engineers
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at Ford, but it was built by a company in Canada called Multimatic and they built
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race cars and they're experts in carbon fiber and racing technologies.
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And so they wanted this car to be a race car that you could drive on the streets and that's
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And it was very successful and now Ford has repeated that performance with the new Ford
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And you can buy those now.
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They're pretty cheap, 350 to 450,000 and they're ridiculous.
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But they're what they call halo cars and you have to apply to get the car.
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You have to be a regular racetrack user.
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You have to take your car to racetracks and use it on the racetrack.
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And you can't sell it for two years because there was a lot of speculation going on.
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People were getting Ford GTs and then immediately flipping them the last version of the GT that
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I mean, this is a car that would sell for $700,000 to $800,000 and they would flip
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it for a million and a half to $2 million.
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You know, you've got to have money to play that game and that's just not a
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game I'm qualified for.
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But yeah, it was a very innovative car.
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But number 10 on the list and probably one of the best cars ever made.
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This is no exaggeration because it fit the mission precisely.
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It did exactly what the company designed it to do and it filled a gap that nobody knew
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And that was the 1990 Mazda Miata.
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I will always be a Miata lover.
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I was a Mazda dealer where all my dad was since 1977.
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And then I came in in 1978 and we sold Mazda until 2010.
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Why'd you give it up, Liddy?
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Well, because we had gotten down to the point where we were selling between five and ten
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Mazdas a month and the Nissan franchise became available in our hometown and we felt
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like we could sell 30 to 40 Nissan's a month.
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So we gave up Mazda so we could get Nissan.
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Ford made us do that because we were going to put them on the same lot.
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Now you know the inside story and I'll be back in just one minute.
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Okay now it's time to talk about some of the worst cars since 1960.
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I got a problem with a few of these.
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Let's start at this list.
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This list I did not create.
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I got this from ChatGPT.
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Well if you've not heard of it you probably don't need to know it's AI.
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I just asked it what are the ten worst American cars since 1960?
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So what do you think was first?
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Well it came out in 1971.
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They sold them until 1980.
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There's no problem though.
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Exploding gas tanks.
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I never could understand why somebody wanted to buy that thing because it was all glass.
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It seemed like it just wasn't pretty.
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Like another car that's on this list, the Chevrolet Vega.
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I know there are many people who say that Vegas weren't any good either.
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Well they weren't any good but they look better.
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They just weren't quite as good.
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They look like a car instead of a spaceship especially from behind.
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And I kind of resent that a little bit because I love the Vegas.
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That was my first real car that my dad let me drive that was new.
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It was a Vega GT and now it didn't have much power.
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I think 98 horsepower is what it had but it had really cool looking gauges and it got good
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And it was fun to drive.
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It handled really well.
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And another car that was kind of a spinoff was on this list.
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I'm kind of surprised that ChatGPT even knew about this thing but it was a spinoff
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of the Chevrolet Vega and it was called the Chevrolet Monza.
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Now what they did is they took the Chevrolet Vega, redesigned it a little bit, put different
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sheet metal on it and slapped a V8 motor in it.
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And yeah, it didn't have a lot of power and it was very front heavy.
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It didn't handle that well.
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But a lot of people bought them and so General Motors thought it was a pretty good concept.
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So what did they do?
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They said, well Cadillac needs a small car.
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Let's turn a Chevy Monza into a Cadillac.
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Are you seeing a pattern here?
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They called that one the Cadillac Cimarron and it didn't sell very well.
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It just turns out that people that have money don't want to drive a Vega just
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because it says Cimarron on it and it has leather interior.
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Here's the funny thing.
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They thought it would compete with BMW.
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Can you believe that?
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It literally single-handedly destroyed Cadillac's luxury image for more than a decade.
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It drug the whole corporation down.
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Okay, let's pick on GM a little bit more.
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How about the 2001 Pontiac Aztec?
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It was universally mocked for its styling.
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It was built on a minivan chassis and Buick even had a version of the Pontiac Aztec.
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At least the Buick version looked semi-normal.
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The Aztec was just horrible.
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It had lines going every which way.
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It was almost like they had four different committees take a whack at this car.
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When they all came and met in one room, such a big argument, they just decided to incorporate
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all the ideas into the same vehicle.
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And the end of it was, what are we going to name this thing?
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Well, let's name it after some extinct civilization.
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So they came up with the name Aztec, which is appropriate.
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Okay, let's see what else.
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Oh yeah, the 97 through 2005 Chevrolet Malibu.
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I'm going to disagree with Chat GPT on this one.
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I thought it looked...
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Well, it was a close attempt at competing with Toyota and with a Honda Accord or a
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I mean, they say it failed because it was bland, cheap and uninspiring.
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Well, what is a Camry?
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I mean, the new ones aren't as bland as the old ones were, but back then they were
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Okay, what else is on this thing?
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Oh yeah, AMC Pacer.
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I didn't like them then.
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I thought they were ridiculous.
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The advertising theme was, well, let's just make it wider.
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You know, the small car that's wide.
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Not a great attribute.
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Not a great advertising theme either.
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A lot of people call it a fishbowl, but why do I like it?
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Because it made a great cars car.
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You remember the movie Cars?
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And my grandson's favorite car was the Pacer.
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And I was actually taking him home one time when they lived in Rogersville and there
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was a Pacer that was underneath the garage or underneath the carport.
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It was all rusted out and everything on the way.
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And every time we went past that, he got all excited.
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Pacer, pop, pop, Pacer.
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Looks back when he couldn't say it's ours.
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Okay, and ChatGBT, this is somewhat hurtful also to Ford dealers, although there aren't
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many Fords on here.
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The Pinto and the, yeah, and this one, 2002 through 2006, Ford Thunderbird.
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Now Ford owned Jaguar at the time and they were trying to consolidate powertrains and
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have common chassis and platforms so that they could get the cost down for Ford and
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for the other companies that they had purchased.
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And so the Jaguar X, I can't remember what the model was, but the version that Ford
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used was for the Ford Thunderbird.
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Now there's a lot of people think they look pretty cool, but the only people they
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ever bought them were over 70.
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And that's not necessarily the target audience for the Ford Motor Company.
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I've owned four or five of these just because I trade for them every now and
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But I'm pretty well with them because there's plenty of us geezers left that remember
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the Ford Thunderbird and it has a top that has the port hole in it.
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And it does look somewhat like the one from the 50s.
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So just because ChatGBT says something, folks, just keep this in mind, AI is not
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It may be someday, but it's not yet.
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Well thanks for listening to this edition of My Car Guru.
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I hope you don't mind the confessional and also ChatGBT's opinions and my opinions
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on the best and worst cars since 1960.
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So give me a call if you need me, 423-552-2020 or send me an email to
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LennyLawson2020 at gmail.com and I'll see you on the next edition of My Car Guru.