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After hours. With mr.
Adrian digiorgio, and from an airport terminal, who's flying overseas, mr. Alum deep Singh.
How are you fellas doing? Well.
Thanks Maddie. Hello?
Whoa, the place just outside this said.
Okay so you are flying into the motherland.
Obviously yes. Ma'am.
And only the Hindustan Ambassador.
You shall be brought in trouble. Isn't anything.
He just said very good and how you feeling?
How you feeling better from last week?
That's good. That's good to hear.
I putting you and your so you're going, you're going to to the Old Country, just for just for leisure or for any other reasons. Or just to see family sounds
good too. But if you come home with a
wife, will know, okay, well no, I think it's the pleasure.
It's a pleasure. There's a flight jump on it,
I'll be like, you know what, sure, I'll be on the next flight to India and then come celebrate with you and all and all those things so subtle things. Yeah, I had a percent, had a
percent but good to see you all. Good to see you.
Adrian, you're back. Now my friend, how are you?
I'm good man, I'm good. How are you?
Good brother, good, good to see. I know you choose a dancer.
A hard time to make it for you, but glad I got to make time for you, man. Miss you, I miss you too.
Guys can we all be a doors? Valentine's today is Valentine's
Day. Yeah, 100%.
Yeah. So you're my Valentine.
Thank you. Adrian.
You're mine and then Elementary's can like can share the love with Scott and then we can all we can all be happy as I see on sounds perfect sounds good sounds good well Happy Valentine's Day to all the humans out there even though you don't need one day to show your other half that you love them.
It is a nice thing to say that. Happy Valentine's Day.
Let's get into straight into Updates before we get into tonight's topic of the cars that car companies actually nailed, they got it right? And, you know, and the ones
hence making them really really desirable.
But we'll start with Adrian Bill.
All agencies to seeing you my friend update with you.
Any new Shenanigans what's happening?
Yes, a lot has changed. Okay, so you some of the M3, I
saw it recently, I drove past your work again, I was on my way to 20 guys. Dropping my mother off to work
as you need. Dad.
No, so during my dog off for something, but I was coming back and I was like I yeah. There's there's a, there's
Adrian's car. So I know you still work there
and he's shaking his head. I mean, you still don't come and
visit. I know, I was actually in a rush
had to get back to something, but I I know you still there with the m30, 3 is looking hot, by the way, it took a good hard part. Yeah, that's been sitting at
home for two weeks now. Okay, what's been happening with
that? What's been happening you, with
your updates, there's Nothing's Gonna If I honestly it just it just it. So now I don't really want to
drive it. Yeah, let it gather dust until I
wash it again. Okay.
Keep the kilometers below. Make it worth that little bit
more. How many cases are gonna yell
once 60-yard? Yeah, that's not too bad.
It's not too bad, I bought of 130.
Yeah, it's pretty good Sonia thing about three years, 30,000, cases up bad and twenty nine thousand of those cases with the new engine I'm assuming. So, Why good reliable?
No, no, it's goodbye. I have a daily, I've bought
myself, do cars, three cars, bloody hell.
All right, fill us in a drink, whatever you bought and why?
Well one's a parts car and another BMW was hearing, nope.
Okay, I've actually steered away from the BMW's guys, we finally got into him, we finally broke him.
Okay, I wouldn't go to say that you quickly, because You can allow for whatever got, but there's a reason behind.
Okay, you bought a magnet in you enough, click on the begin.
I wish it was a chilly, huh? It'd be in the garage and I'd be
staring at it right now. Those are doing that is exactly
right? Yeah, that's just a glorified
sports car. Here we go.
God break us. Tell us what tells me you got.
I can't like a Wait, any longer? I've actually stepped into the
realm of four-wheel drives, okay?
So I'm planning on going away. Either late this year or early
next year. Haven't decided went depends on
the cards free and like sorry, depends upon the cars.
Actually setting up and I'm happy with it, but I've got myself a disco one, all right, first a year later when Rover disco 1998 model. So it's the last of them.
Is it a petrol diesel? I've my main ones petrol, petrol
V8. Yeah.
But I bought it simply that one there specifically because of the factories completely stop. Never been operated owned by an
old lady. Funny enough.
Actually the only way of Lady and he has 180,000 case o'clock.
So I'm like surprised a lot about far.
Adrian being a million ropa. Yeah, I'm wait.
I Kapa. Haka from work.
There's a reason behind it. They is your sake of a
punishment. That's exactly, that's they're
cheap. And they were liable.
They're actually cheap and reliable measure.
Like what's the car triangle? It's it's cheaper.
The top reliable and fast and, like, you know, a lot /.
Stop. Oh, that's low.
It's like five horsepower. Going down a hill with the
Tailwind. No, wait in the car and meet me
outside the car. Trying to put it through.
Like it's got, you know, all Well, so is so you've gone the cheap and reliable option, which yes, it's cheap and reliable in the form of any Range Rover. Such Land Rover discussion isn't
really heard of. I have you ever heard of that of
course, going. And there is I don't think, I
don't think I deserve reason why.
And this is why it took me so long to actually get into something is I did a lot of research into what's worth getting what's not? You just everything about it.
And the more I I looked into work for the price range.
I wasn't going out with juice puggle.
It was what can I get cheap reliable and it's not going to break down as much. Now, when I looked into It,
Disco ones actually have the same drivetrain as one of the Defenders. And we all know Defenders are
one of the most reliable Vehicles going around.
They are so, yeah, it's just one of those things that I decided to pull the pin just get something like that.
And I picked it up for 4K. Okay.
So is it a manual order order? I want a border is.
I want to go off right away. I want to go stand driving and
all that. So what is it?
We're going on. Okay first.
Oh, so you bought an auto disco one.
Okay, cool. So that's, that's good.
So then you put your other two spare cars.
Now, I got another spare car. Okay, I bought a parts car for
it which again is another disco one that drives but it's diesel in order and a Kind of spirit. I didn't get a diesel.
I like the sound of the diesel option in Z because they drink like a fish. Those cars.
I'm not, it's actually not that bad.
It's not much more than what the inquiry is being dead serious.
Okay, yeah, I get up at the same fuel economy animal, but the, these are the only reason I like it is because that's got all the fruit on it. The problem is, this is a car's
done. Background is done, 400,000
cases, pass to around Australia, all that kind of stuff.
Ends. But that's Scott like the bull
bar roof rack all the pots on a date on it and with the snorkel was driving it back home and all you could hear just do the stalker, was the things with noise and then the shoe is just crass, but the order is going out of that one.
So I'm just going to get rid of it.
It's it's it's not worth keeping the body.
It's rusted. Yeah, too hard too.
Bring back the life. Do all the good bits off and
flog it off. Okay.
And then once it's all on my one, then I'm going to drive it for a while off, right? Bring in stuff like close by
nothing too, serious. Then once it's already, I'll be
going out. All different areas anywhere.
I can go very go over Torah than like proper offer.
And I So, but yeah, that's what I've been up to me and just and the third curve analysis to to that's right.
Did you just say what three girls are too?
I said, I swear, I heard you and then he's got three cars, three cars that makes sense, that makes sense.
Yeah, because I'm three still here.
It's just I haven't exactly unlock that and look inside Anytime recently, the that can stay there.
Is it in the garage that car or It's in the driveway.
Okay, it's in the driveway. So, yeah, I just kind of leave
it that. I've got to drive it again.
At least a little least to keep the battery charged, but I don't like driving it anymore Santa. I'll tell you what, like, going
to a bigger car. I just I love it travel along.
See, I've everything right at speed humps, they drive if it's more comfortable. You know, we could go over the
bumps and your back's Killin. You see, I'm really surprised
that okay, like, I know that you're a glutton for punishment at this point, but I'm surprised that you didn't go the Beamer and get a next five or well. I looked, I looked into X5 say
53's. I was going to go and get one,
but it was just a simple fact that they don't off road anywhere near as good as what I'm laying over does, correct?
Yeah. And yes, an 80 series is better.
Oh yes, 100 Series has been a, yes, A patrols been up here.
Talking twice. The three times, the money for
something decent. Yeah.
And as I said, I've looked into it.
I've been researching. When you've done the right
amount of mods to the Rover this a disco once especially disco one disco to had a lot more Electronics.
So there's a lot of issues with them and then it just yeah, snowballed from there. But with the Disco ones, the
right amount and the mods you can actually have a Is reliable and as capable as what an 80 Series has?
Well, I don't know that although it had a disco on at one point and like I drive that and felt like a truck drive but, you know, off-roading capabilities really good like that.
That's what I that's what they made to do.
Like, if you look at all for a capability between that and 80 series stock for stock, they're virtually the same.
Really like there's no difference.
I went off roading like that last weekend.
I think it was, we just went to let it a the four-wheel drivetrain. Sangram.
It was like night time, so, like Sunset, and the car still completely stock. Like I think I've got it all
drains on it, that's it. Stock size tires and so that I
forgot in the morning that it rained.
So the puddle was were quite deep and yeah, it's still just went through. It like was nothing and I'm just
like, yeah, I'm not going to stay tuned because I know what's going to happen. I'm going to get too cocky and
then border engines. Assault with, don't know.
So but yeah, like, that's seriously, it just been playing with that. I've already enjoying it.
I love it. Oh, well, I'm glad I'm glad.
Hopefully, it does you well, because if someone was to set of me, I've got a beamer and a Land Rover, I would look at them and be like, like, you are asking for just punishment, but from all accounts, this one seems pretty good.
So I think you've done a good by their urine.
Yeah, I looked I think this is the fifth car and look at that.
Yeah, we didn't test I have a bunch of them looking at him saying what breaks or thousand? Yeah it's got a little nibbly
things here and there but that's fine.
What about Scott? And it's part of the experience
of any winner of. Huh?
It's yeah it's a disco one. Another to correct.
This go to has a lot more electronic issues and are my Aetna. Been there done that.
No notice not notice CO2, I prefer the ones anyways.
Well yeah, gotcha. License plate.
Well done, good potential. Scotty do updates with you
updates. As me.
I have got the r31 is safely back home and under its car cover. Yes, everything.
With the whole front end is ticked off and all brand-spanking-new as it feels real tight. yeah, when I was
driving it, it was Yeah, I mean I didn't really hit many turns or anything. I was just kind of driving it
back because like what? Six seven minute drive back.
Yeah, not very far and yeah, the steering feels a lot tighter and just hitting those bumps. It feels a lot more solid
doesn't feel like that loose kind of Wala.
We feel when you hit him some speed bumps and things like that, you kind of hit him and then and that kind of just stops. Yeah.
You don't get that while we bouncy feeling or anything like that. So that's gone.
From the front. But yeah, when I was driving it
out the the guy said, you know, you just might need to Chuck some fuel in it. I thought it's got about a
quarter. He said, you know so I just got
20 liters, Chuck didn't put that in and started it up.
Starts up first go, they called it at the workshop.
The car is called horny because when I put the original steering wheel back on again, the contact To the horn is pushed in a little bit, so it keeps keeps going.
So you know with the gets hot, it kind of expands and they've gone past the workshop. People go.
No, I can hear a horn going off. Can your workshops like, yeah,
we know getting a cloth and shoved it in between in the Gap.
There into the steering wheel, start and stop on all the time.
It's only reason I knew it was doing that because when I was driving to drop it off, I was making a left hand turn, and I just heard this like Tooting and I'm like why is that car to being at me? I'm not doing anything wrong.
I indicated what? Yeah, and then it did it again,
I was like, oh crap, it's me drove the way the rest of it with my finger inside there, to hold it out.
Driving it with one hand, it's driving get back.
Do you ever do that? We had a, we had a yeah, racecar
that nugget Nationals. We had a we had a foamer, a fake
Momo steering wheel on it. For the first time, we drove
around, we got around the corner.
The quarters of the augmented bbbbb.
Like just district has read the whole jar.
We do end up getting Black Flag. The log like, dude, you were
like, yeah, we know. So we just, we just disconnected
the real life, it's just like that again.
Yes, I started up. It's still when it's cold, it's
still misses. There's a missing and I don't
know why I've changed absolutely everything I can think of.
So I think when it warms up it tends to clear or if I put my foot down, that little bit more because if I'm too, Two Gentlemen, Exhilarate, because Excel, or he's actually pretty stiff compared to any other kind of really driven.
It's pretty stiff. When I was rolling out and you
go off the accelerator, Jesus noisy and rattly, pretty sure the it's a problem with the tail shaft.
So the universal joints probably gone, and that's so that's just rattling away. Other than that, it's fine, I
mean, there's no real different wine, which they tend to have a problem. You can get a diff wine, but
mine doesn't do that. Yeah, I think it probably was
Shifting the best at first because I was being gentle an accelerator and for some reason doesn't like that.
So put your foot down that little bit more and get it going properly and slams into seconds. Just guys need to go straight
into it. But as I said I mean I'm not too
fussed about that. They've got a manual gearbox and
stuff to go in there. Anyway.
And then as I was saying in the chat, when I was driving it back, all the gauges were working.
Gosh. Okay.
Vito was working the fuel. Gauge was working.
Everything was working. I was like, what the hell
because when I was driving it there, nothing was working out again. The fuel gauge will kind of come
up and tell me how much, but then it goes back down oil pressure. One seems to work all the time.
What I think it is is what you want, cause sit for a while, like they and I'm a strong believer, this, you need to drive your car because if because, when it sits there like they go to crap. Yeah, like Well, I test I test
drive this this XJ Cherokee a couple weeks ago and it was a really clean air to enter car. The paint was a bit gone but the
rest of the couple's meant like I only had a hundred and ten thousand cases on it like something some something stupid, lo I start the car, the whole dashboard, go for driver, like this thick, nothing working on the cluster, my great, the under the other thing that was good because it's American.
Well, that's what it's been seeing this.
This cars been sitting there for the last six months, it was serviced and the owner that had it passed away.
So it's the deceased estate car and anyway, we get driving and I like your nothing's working but when the battery side because we have to jump it yet so when I bet you got when the best we've got go bit more charging it and all of a sudden I'm driving a, everything just came to life and I was like, oh, it's alive, you know, it working, and for the rest of the drivers, it works perfectly fine. So I think do sometimes like,
you know, especially if it's not getting driven as much it, you know, Terminals and things can just dry up and And just just not, not be the not contact as well as it should or your.
And the batteries aren't giving us much charge, you know, like 2:30. Also, the alternatives are
giving as much charge. So, you know, there's a whole,
but a whole bunch of things like that could there could be and it could be an issue there, but I think drop them or and you probably see it all come come back to life.
Yeah, I think so but we'll get driven be what I mean, it gets stuck out of that, you know, every few weeks and just let it run there and I don't want stuff like that.
But yeah, it's got to figure out this little Miss maybe just needs to be driven a bit more. I'll find out.
If it goes away. But yeah, I've pretty much
changed everything, maybe I'll just do spark plugs again.
This last time I did that was when I first got it.
That's probably, you know, four or five years ago, but hasn't driven anywhere. But still, I'll just say that's
a nothing to like it. Especially if it's if you
sitting there idling a cold, it's going to it's going to fill the lungs to very rich. So so yeah, maybe look at doing
a set of plugs but I think get it roadworthy first.
Get on the road, fix up that headlight issue.
And I think I think you're I think you're ready to go.
I mean, surely like they're not going to get anything else now, so I wouldn't think so. I mean it's the most, it's so
safe this car now. Yeah. 30 other cars that are
already out there on the road. Running worn-out suspension
stuff, everything gone. It's just brand-new brand-new
brakes bearings and full suspension and bushes.
Some. Come on.
Yeah, what else? I got remember I sort of flipped
a seat belt to well yes but I'm twist it.
Yeah, it was The belt untwist that belt that's going to be the main thing if I forget that one, there's instant fail.
But yeah, you did. He did some extra work to on the
past. So the front shocks didn't have
bump stops or dust covers, so he did that for me as well.
So I don't have to worry or think about that whatsoever.
Which is perfect. So that's yeah, the whole front
end does not need to be touched, lovely.
So, in other words, we're getting close.
I can I can see, I can finally see the end of this.
So, yeah, it's got, it just might be a small delay because our house is extremely close to being ready.
That's fair enough, man. That's a complete
congratulations. I just had the one of the
inspections and you know, where you go through everything, pick out all the bits and pieces to fix up and they're going to That over the next couple weeks and then we've got the second inspection. So if everything goes, well,
we'd be in like early March. Awesome.
That's so good, pretty soon. Hell yeah, congrats buddy, thank
you very much, Miss Ralston, man.
Speaking of rizz rizz ear us updates with you my friend, how you doing? Oh yeah, yeah, we come in live
with coming live from the Kia in Nero all-electric.
How is it? It is better than I thought it
was going to be. Okay, they've it's a conversion.
Of course, they've taken the petrol engine out and put in their electrical stuff and it seems to work pretty well.
It doesn't rock as much as the MG said, it best did because that I don't think I don't think.
Kim G's heard of a suspension tune but that's, that's all that's all sorted. But yeah, it's pretty good.
It does the range. It's doesn't stand out which is
also a good thing and so I've done about 700 case and it's so far know who the last couple of days and I'll have it till the first day. And then I give this back and
pick up Mercedes-Benz eqb 350. 4matic.
So, that should be, that should be cool for a week or so.
And then I give that back and pick up the ionic, five technique all-wheel-drive. First first batch for 2023 build
cars. No years old.
That's sort of the next couple of weeks looking like bit of this key. I would be, it would be good to
see what the dedicated EV platform from pie and Ikea looks like in code. Be a week and a half or whenever
I pick the other one up. But again overall things have
been good. Every time I drive these cars
of, I always think about my own car.
Yeah as you hand and just you just bought it on its want to get back in it because these guys are good but they re is behind. Hmm.
In the experience, the infotainment system.
A lot of the internals here, remind me of the Kia cerato that, you know, the famous Cerrado.
As fact, literally, your blah Lane, keep assist blind spot monitoring like the the time that it plays is exactly the same as the 2019, Kia, cerato over the safety back.
So anyway, that's that's what sort of, that's what sort of happening in my world but no. No updates phone my own cars as
such my man. Absolutely, I think I think
that's, I think that kind of particular is going to be pretty good. But I'm really waiting to see
like, out of all the cars are, like, you've tested the one that I'm waiting to see which I mentioned a few times.
Now, is the ionic 5, that is such a cool car.
I cannot wait to see your views on that card.
They took me cover this to me not much this week.
I should have been pretty busy with work, but what do you say?
About testing the Grand Cherokee, why, look another Grand Cherokee for what? I was going with a man who's
looking at buying one, we actually end up buying because it's a really good car and easy because I'm plenty of probably taking it off. Roading is like you can take it
for a big trip and I want to do like a big fool Drive trip.
So be cool cat attack which we could actually have to Yeah, do it together? Yeah, sounds good.
Sounds good. KakaoTalk off, road off road.
Who can get stuck? The biggest I've got that are
about that. I've never driven like, if
you're free set, though, I'm going on Saturday and then I am a bit more busy, but I will let you know if I can get some time, but we'll talk after the show. Yes.
Yes, let me know, but those are me.
I drove the MR2 virtually all week last week which was which was fun. It's actually fun being it, Bo
your daily broken, not only the lasers getting, it's a throttle position sensor TPS at that. It's been fitting.
But it's been playing up for like the last year and a half and I just never got around to it and he's like, yeah, we'll do it this week. Took it in are still working,
the parts is on back order. So the college the car just
sitting, not be able to move. So that's that's getting getting
repaired. The Scamp I started doing some
work on that. So I took the rear bar off
getting ready to to basically cut the rice out of the out of the back valence paint bhagat paint it get it ready for roadworthy then put the bar back on the forest of my sister was driving it the other day and she basically says you called me she's like a red lights. Come on the dash.
I'm like, oh God. So some, I pull over my mom,
like, I put a 10 gauge and I'm like, did you either tell me?
She's like, she's like, what's that?
I'm like the temp gauge on the side of the car.
The 10 gauge of the 10 kg, it's because it doesn't have a 10-gauge. I put one in it just like, oh,
yeah, it's 120. I'm like, get switch it off,
please. It's better to hot.
So lucky, she caught it in time. Turns out the, the radiator, top
tank, this the original 300,000 km always radiated, has decided to give up the ghost after you know, a bazillion heat Cycles.
So, top 10 cracked Got it, towed to run, as a putting your radio in today. Okay?
Did the test the leak down? Testing everything, no, head
gasket issues, but just crazy because it's a Subaru and she should be back on the road very, very, very soon but that's virtually it on my end now. Gentlemen, all move on to
tonight's topic of cars that car companies absolutely nailed like, they got them just right. They're going to imperfect and
the ones you say if you think of that car company anything of that kind you like gear down? That was a good car.
Like I really, really like Those cars for me, for me, you know, cars at that that have been now, like so well, our cars that we still talk about on the show quite often and and cars that and comes up when you, when you go to, like when you see one in pretty like, oh, that's one of those.
Are I really like that? Like that's such a cool car.
So we'll start with you Scotty? What do you think some cars that
that companies have now, absolutely gotten just right?
I'll sinking about its and the first thing that kind of Came to mind, I guess for everyday person like us is like that extra six turbo. Yeah I would agree with that.
Yeah. I think that just does
everything you want. It doesn't look terrible.
No one can look at it and go. That's the worst-looking car
I've ever seen. You know, if it's in.
It's fine. Big sedan.
You got the power to tow things if you want to easily.
It's very reliable comfortable. It's not really many things that
could go wrong. They just keep going.
And going I just think for nailed it with that.
I mean you can tell now by the engine, everyone once the engines they're all disappearing and heading off to America and things. But it's a solid a solid car for
anybody. Yeah, it's interesting.
When for brought out the ex SX Turbo in 2002, like, no one expected that to happen. Like no, no, everyone's like,
what is this, like, you know, this is not, this is not the V8, you know that everyone that everyone came to came to know and love it was quicker than the V8.
It was more reliable than the V8.
It went harder than the V8. You know, and everyone was like
wow this Dave actually come out of somewhere and gave forced induction to a six cylinder and made it work.
Made it really Good like first hit out of the park.
I think they are absolutely right.
So it is absolutely nailed our car and with less technical than the V8 at the time to that they had.
So, one thing I've always said, Ford always know like you had to make the six-cylinder better than what Holden did.
Yeah. But Holden, you can't beat their
V8 the heroes. Yes.
I Gates American but still you can't beat that VA dealer.
So they both do what? They're supposed to do.
Yep. But absolutely and here's the
thing to like getting we're getting withholding like my first pick was when they when they brought back the manaro.
Like that's still a good. Look at that.
I thought like holding that that whole, that whole era of Holden where they had that the manaro and tool isn't forward to it.
That was a bit earlier than that.
It was the it was like it was like VT.
I think it was here, it is. When they came out, I I can't
say I was a fan of when they first brought it out without the body kit. Well, with the GTO body kit.
Oh yeah. They look tough.
Yes. And he be 80 and everything
after we're gone. Yeah, my I would do bad bad
things to get a CV. I had said, you know, I live in
that light blue color to a gorgeous color that that all the Sunburst orange, whatever that was.
In all those colors and they nailed the design, like it wasn't over the top. It was a, it was a good sport
cars. What I was and it was a sports
car, it was a proper sports car, you know, you get what?
You know, LS1 manual manual gear change, real drive, you know, loves to get the back end out. Good proportions.
The right size, I think it's a better size in a Mustang to be honest with you. I think it's I think they nailed
the size on a dime and Ireland. I start, I'm gonna, I came into
work like a few weeks ago. And now is only look at
Mightyena. Still a good-looking car.
Like it's It just it looks right.
Like you could sell that ik would some bit more modern touches today. I reckon you can still sell it
today like it. So they absolutely nailed that
car. Like I to shame that they didn't
do it in the VF + ve series of yeah Holden because like the coop 60 if you guys remember that their concept car, that was all one the supernovas incredible.
Like the how God's eyes I love her but I actually saw a person for the first time a motorist couple years ago and just you look at it and it's just Just everywhere.
Just Beauty. It's better on.
Its better Empire. That an American?
Yeah, well, yeah, but like the coop, 16 person.
Like, I remember singing at the motor show, when I got when I got released, I was like, whoa, this thing's sick, like it, it looked hot. I'm, I'm like, this is the new
manari, like, why are they bringing this out?
Why are they doing it? And considering the Nora did so
quite, well, it was, it was a little bit little bit disappointing but but yeah, the menorah for me, was just something holding. Absolutely.
Now like they couldn't have done it any better.
I don't think they could have done any better.
The way there's on it, looked it looked at me.
It so mad props that props to them, would have been awesome if they supercharged, that would have been awesome if they would have had a. Imagine an ls9 powered manaro,
like something out of a Corvette said.
I wonder what he'll say, hello. Say, you want me lcls things are
more readily available than Alice.
Nine Bell. It's not a, quite a special
Squad special engine. But they like, I mean, people
are super charge of and done all sorts of things to them, but I just think I even think they'll for me, The perfect one is and it wouldn't, it wouldn't be one of the HSV ones.
I'd pick the C V8 Z in either blue or the that burnt orange because I love the wheels in a live.
How they FC V 8z in the wheels. You know how they got there?
They like they like Preston into onto one of the spokes and just just you know just with a nice exhaust and that is for me Perfection like that is that is a car that I could happily drive and be like, you know, this is a damn cool car but I respect the hell out of this car. Yeah, it's not many of them
around. I've Got a Brand.
In Sydney, who has exactly that Bloomin, r0.
C V8 said and he just, he loves it, he loves it.
I think it's, um, yeah, they're rare and that even that yellow, that, you know, there's a few of them running around, but a lot of them are not in As Good Nick anymore.
Yeah. But they have, they were
gorgeous car for their time. Think they've aged well like I
think of how local and I think the the good team, a good car design is if it holds up better in like 15 20 years time and now like they're you know, there are some of the early menorahs are pushing I think there are over 20 years now and like they would be so you know that's that's saying something like that.
Car. Still holds up today and making
and looks really, really good. What about you guys?
What else do you think that that companies have just absolutely nailed? I've got to say that the
American Lung voice. So like the caddies Okay.
Stuff like that is in Paula's. Like pull the wrong boy, cars.
You can't go. They just have a presence.
Is the only way I can put it? You see him coming and you just
stop and stare and you're like, that's just it just Beauty right there. So I do like them quite a lot.
Yeah, I would agree with that. Like like a old Impalas are
quite a cool car. Like it's just you're at they
have got presence and and they got a cool factor that that cars these days are still trying to replicate.
But they they can't quite match. That's the thing for me.
It's like so I went to the Jang motor and the fire Last year, I think it was here last year earlier this year.
I remember when it was, but I went to that and were cool, looking around all cars and will be, where was on the street parking and their head, like all Lambos McLaren's, like or all the super cars that were there, which all the young kids looking at because they look like it's a Supercar but as soon as this Impala rocked up like it just everybody just turned around and just staring at it because it's just just stunning you have for me for me like Look a like a 64 Impala like even on Hydraulics
or something like you know like food Snoop Dogg spec and Ice Cube's back that for me would snap would snap next more than more than like our there's another 458 like, you know, it's just it's for me that's it's got here that either of that era of like Chevy and we even had he done here.
I'm just like American cars. Is just, they got such style
where I think everything that were doing just fantastic.
They're looking really good. Do you remember the one meat
that they had a crazy bird? Adams.
It was like they were talking like years and years ago.
I think it's a good like Five Sixty plus years ago.
Mirror was at the pool. Walker me with cone AP?
No, not that one. Not that one.
Now, that was an essential. This is just another comment,
that was at the great and punish the first and last one they were done because people ruined it. But I got to remember that at
that meat, like it was all these nice cars and stuff and like what you're saying, those are hide Alex 64 Impala that rocked out. That was three wheeling, and all
that kind of stuff around the whole Kapa.
And you like, oh, where's it going now?
You just watch the crowd. The crowd is just falling around
the hall car park. It's just as I said, just a
presence. Absolutely it and they just cool
like they just a cool Colour. I yeah.
Massive respect like II every time I see you.
I'm like damn, that's cool. You know like him?
Yeah, I would all I wouldn't mind.
Having one of those in my in my driveway.
Why put it that way? Yeah.
So there are two cars that I can think of now go your way zeros one that has to RX-7. Yeah, I Timeless.
What is it Spirit one? What's that Spirit?
Are at all if they split up. Yeah.
Seriously that car is just Timeless.
If you see a mint one of those it still looks like it's Yeah.
It's just yeah, really thoughtful.
Yeah, if you notice if you're gonna make a series like it, like the facelifted version of that, like a spirit are in that beautiful blue that they coming up blue.
Yeah, it's just like that for me is arguably Perfection on four wheels? It just it every proportions
right he just looks right. Like it's you know whatever when
everybody says to me I was Skyline NSX GTR.
What I'm like, I'm like I'm like they well they're great cars for me. The one that I would always Has
probably go towards his in if they are seven and it just really just being just because I like it when it looks stunning.
But to, you know, everything about it is just just just Sublime II like, I mean, apart from the the maintenance behind it. But for me that'd just be very
broad. Every 150 gallons in case.
Yeah, yeah, it's got to become best friends with a rotary Guru mechanic. I can start.
Mer to me. Like hey guys we want to be my
friends. It's finding your mom's coming
in friend requests but yeah there's a reason that's that's when the the I would completely agree that was on my list of cars, like the the FDI 7 series eight.
Yep. Yep.
I'll give that a big tick and the second one is still in production. Originally came out in 2012, I
think we lost you there is what was that?
Can you hear me? You can hear me.
I can hear. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So produced first produced in 2012, had a refresh in 2021 but looks exactly like the 2012 model car and it is just the big Fu to everything that the automotive industry is ever done. And that's the Tesla Model S.
Yeah. Well you know I would I would
agree with you though. I actually think that they now
have straight out of the box that car like that.
It's it's weird that a car company comes out and then does a car like that. You know what?
It's a pretty, you know, pretty full-on move.
Like it's pretty. You got to you got to have a lot
of what would they say strong Ambitions, put it that way to come out and do a car like that and not feel and not feel kind of, you know, pressure to perform when straight out of the Those early ones are still on the road today and they're fine are holding up the test of time. And the new one is so in Europe,
recent couple of things now that they've started to release them in Europe, your group and cap did a test on the new one and they say this is the safest car we've ever tested.
This isn't too. Huh, that's that's actually
unbelievable. Like a third, pretty much 11
year old design and they have said that that is the safest car they've ever had a group of car journals.
Did some winter testing with it, in Norway and came out with everything. We W, all the other brands,
Lucid have cars there and said this is the Palm most efficient Electric performance car. That was well, it is the fastest
performance car that basically, Jay, Leno fronted on drag strips and it doesn't in under 10 seconds.
He does. It's, you know, he's not a light
man, you think that's. Yeah, I mean in terms of its
sleep Earnest, if you see one on the road you wouldn't really think twice about it and it's a Timeless design and So this to the RX-7 and the Tesla Model S. Yeah, I agree.
I think they now that car straight off the bat.
I think it's as it before like it's not often a card as a fresh sheet. You know, build and it's perfect
like just works off the bat which is which, you know, I give them. Give them a big thumbs up for
that. I think that's a really cracking
car. Remember Maddie, when we drove
it in 2001, was 18, I think. Yeah.
Yeah. Was, and it was a bit of a.
Even at that time I was just just mind blowing it what it could do. And yeah, all these years later,
you couldn't think that would improve that, but they've just done it in such a way that porch now with that I can is they're testing a tri-motor equivalent, okay?
But that won't be out for another two years and the model listed in 2021. Yeah.
But the tri-motor set up that does it in two seconds of whatever 0 to 100 and on the 10 second quarter miles and Can you can repeatedly do that and it wouldn't damage the battery.
So it's there still a bit ahead and yeah, look forward to getting the new models coming to Australia and hopefully we can get the carto crew around one of them when that lands.
Now, they'll be gone if you'd like to test drive your.
Let me see another one for me, speaking of sedans, kind of like that. They nailed like that was the
case Stinger. I think KN never really did
anything like that. Before came out of Producers car
and said we made his performance sedan, you know if despite the fact that the world was giving up on performance a dance or sedans in general and brunette the Kia Stinger, it's a bit of a bloody weapon and it's actually well-regarded car and I haven't really had any horror stories about them and nothing looks good. It's got to be the one of the
coolest things in car history Stinger.
Yeah. And and it's yeah, like I have
to sitting in one and I haven't driven on yet.
I'd love to but I from all accounts they are cracking thing to And just the fact that they came came on the scene and just netted like they like yet we're going to nail this car and they absolutely did. I think it's big big thumbs up
to care for that? Yeah, it's a fantastic car
because you know, it actually, when they announced recently, they were going to stop producing it.
I got a bit sad because I was like, that was another one of those cars that came at the end of basically all the big sedans that you could buy here and I think you can still buy them but maybe there's quite a bit of weight and I think that's it like they're not producing them much longer.
So yeah, really, really cool car.
Kind of sad to to be fair because it's only lasted one generation but I think we don't we haven't realized how good it is until it's gone and it's one of those cars are going to be like you know what, we should have bought more of these because they are there cracking car but we could have said that about you know tons it a lot of the other cars are that are on this list it currently but it's speaking about sedans.
Like I thought like these two cards in particular.
Like for me like my one of my favorite areas is the early 2000s, late 90s, kind of kind of, kind of era of of car and and Master would known to be just doing boring stuff except for the RX-7, really? And then they came out with
that, they had the 66 and then I came up with the name, the first Mazda6 and still today, I look at, as plenty on the road.
I saw still say when I can, it's a good-looking car, they drive?
Well, they handle well, they go. Well, they were liable for the
most part and, you know, I always say, you know, something like you get what you get one with like the like, like a luxury. You know, we're sport, we had
leather and and bodykit. They're good looking car and
they drive so well, I can see why they sold so many of them being in competition. They had the Honda Accord, Euro,
the seal nine, the first generation of that, and I thought the styling on that car still looks fantastic.
Today they Honda now that kinda and David were tested.
This many Honda dealers, still pick your people coming in every day saying, I cannot cry test. The new Honda Accord Europe,
they don't do anymore because because like that was so in love with their with their record Euros.
You know that they wanted to obviously move into another which says, a lot about a car to be honest with you because they are cracking cracking color, I owned one and I really are really really like that car. But I thought those two, I don't
know. I mean Scott, you were nodding
your head about the Mazda you you're in a grant with that.
Yeah. And I'm also in agreeance with
100 called, would you do that? Just it's just a good-looking
car. You can't.
Really fault it on the road. You see them everywhere and you
just go. Nice car completely agree.
What else is on your list, guys? What are the guys?
You think they absolutely? Well, I got jumping over to the
euro side of things I was thinking and, you know, even though they might not be reliable now, but when they first came out and even if you see one on the road now just an E46. Hmm.
Yep. There's a 3:30, it's just a
shape that's still look. Great.
Even today that, you know, doesn't age.
And again, is just saying early 2000s.
Yeah, and you, I guess even the E46 M3 that much power out of a straight-6 that they'll making 50/50 weight distribution.
It's just top top tier BMW, right?
It's a pretty car lights. It's one of those cars that
like, like, I buy as much as much crap as I give you Adrian about about E36 M3. S, I like an in that and they
are cheap and places and window regulators, I haven't gone surprise the, I don't know how you've lost it.
That long there must be better on the converts but basically, I still see what I'm like, damn, that's a good-looking car.
Like it's it's a sedans out of the issues.
Same as the x 5, this is because kids kids play with them.
But, you know, say earlier they're like about the Menara being the right size. I think that I think an E46 M3
Three is the right size but like three series.
Like it's it's not too big, it's not too small.
It's just it's just right? It's the Goldilocks of cars,
really are. Let us say after only one for a
while. Now, the only thing I'd have to
say what I don't like with them, it's just the power.
Yes, it's cool. What I did out of it and I six
cylinder but they should have at least supercharged alternate it's just it lacks that power. Let me go now.
Now it looks that power but back then that's like those big Power. You go up against it, like SS
called, all the stock is, in of the same generation to be why you won't beat it. Yes, you will.
It's got more power than if the stock is.
It doesn't. Yes, it does.
What time is it? I stock.
SS makes what true? Every wire says I want 220 kw,
right? Like they not then I'm not messy
power houses and E46 M3 makes months 250 km.
What was maybe? Nah.
Oh yeah, that's 347 horsepower. Yeah, they're made good power
like right. I think we're supposed to be 250
to but that's at the fly the fly.
Yeah and that's true. True 20 at the like to 2002 30
kilowatts at the At the, at the Fly for a, for a for analysis.
And every crew may be out of a cougar.
Yes, without of convertible. Well, yeah, that's because the
added weight. Yeah, it's actually 230 Killers.
Yeah, I think it adds far enough, but it's, it's something like 1,500 kilos to like 1730 or 1740.
Well, it weighs virtually the same as the, as the, as the typhoon, which is, which is, which is really it weighs as much as my mates. Liberty wagon.
Well, like that says something for you.
So yeah. I'm not a fan of them.
Although I have to say, the one thing that has come out and is absolutely Timeless, C63 AMG which one though?
W204, yeah, I would agree with that.
The first ones I come out on my card.
You just that shape is timeless especially when they've got the arrow kids on them. The sound that comes out of it
amazing II can't fault them apart from the price.
I'm jealous that my brother's got one because like every time I see him drive it in the noise it makes is just like the liquor by one. Yeah he's got one.
Yeah and he loves it. You ever see you ever seen that
Meme of Vine you first you by the day.
You then you bother daily for your daily, then you buy the daily for years daily daily. So like my community F6 of him a
car, he's like it's like man if Cecil race car at this point.
So he's so he's like I didn't buy him something.
I put my son in among are fair enough.
So he bought a C63 she kind of kid now.
He's got a kid down. Yeah, I'm an uncle.
Well I am so like out of it. Well, it's been a while now but
you're not. You know, I saw in the weekend
though. I saw a sorry.
Three wagon. I was about to bring the wagons
up to me that E63 wagons were at yes longer, but it's the same V8 sound that comes out of it and they still go like hell no.
Yeah, yeah. They said they said unreal.
Like they sound sick and the fact that a C63 I still can't understand this, but in a quarter mile, aw, 2004 C63 is quicker than a w205. Well, how does that you're
talking about 5.5 screen? Tablet compared to a 96.3.
It's, you know, it's I mean, the m156 engine.
Not that naturally, aspirated. 62 is just it's a complete
animal lights. I mean, technically that's a
race engine, right? You like, you guys know that?
It's actually a racecar engine. Like it's not, it's not, you
know, the reason why they had of, they have a few issues on the road is because they're not meant to be puttered around him interview thrash. Hushed.
That's yes that is an internet needs to be revved and needs Mama BMW boy through and through.
But I would go for a C63 in a heartbeat.
Absolutely love them. Nothing else.
But us talk about em else Scotty.
Like, I mean, I mean, back movies to work at Target when those things were still kind of on sale.
We talked about how much of a tank they were like, we do what we want from back then, yeah, they're just gone up in price to they have. Yeah, my brother bought them,
they were cheap and then they have gone straight back out.
So he's a, he's done quite well in his one actually, but another one. Yeah, go.
It's just thinking about it. The idea of this is my be a
little bit controversial. I hate crime.
Cherokee the new ones and the new ones.
I think it's quite a good-looking car.
What you're gonna say, just the older ones W J's, where it's at.
All right. It is time.
I shake really look. I know they don't stop and I
know that I don't stop, especially if you had the four-litre straight-six. Yeah, thank you.
Very forever and ever. That's what that's what it is
drive. It was an XJ for leader Sport
and they are actually Pretty, bulletproof car.
Like they, they are the seriously, they are like they go like clappers America, everybody loves them.
But to me personally, I like the 6.4 in.
Well, just because you work for him and all wheel drive, Or actually. So just quickly I just
remembered right now. I'd love to mention on the show.
Cool powder Park is back and I was I went to the drags a couple of weeks ago in the intimate. Not I think I still don't all
racing at see that it was the actual drag so I'm not actually on this Friday. Oh, okay.
I think my brother wants to take his F-16 anyone's that upset, some people, but we'll see what he is or that thing definitely would. Yeah, for how he got to do,
Rory. I think yeah I think of your Ric
is like now that he's got the the dog box it doesn't have to look he won't he won't lose boost out, you know like by putting the clutch and you'd just be ripping gears and it's nicer on all the drive line and stuff too.
Yeah. At least, you know, you're going
to break an axle. Something that that's exactly
it. But yeah.
Well I went to the drag so I haven't been worked it out with about 20 years since I've been to the drags but I was eight years old but so yeah yeah let's of the drags I want to fly made all these watching all the cars. Go faster.
It was awesome. Going to be cold.
So we went and got our jackets from the car went back and in the lanes, was two cars. I was just like, they should be
in the lanes to work, Utes. Hell yeah, just a single cab
jeehyun with the tool chest on the Back.
It was Trey was lifted, big fires and then there was next to that and Alan 106, my luck's saying please be seated, okay?
Well, if everyone's cheering it on with business as Laughing 21 and a half seconds for the gene. Yeah, and 22 seconds for that.
I learned when I was six, I was crying.
I just want to see the video that that would be funny that that should be on forbes.com will get back we'll get back to
him because I know he has got to go soon but R is any last one you want to do? You want to recommend before you
move on for the cars that you think that they just nailed straight off the bat look? I think even some of the like
the Toyota Supra. Hmm.
I think they did instead of Mark for the other J.J.'s
that idea. Yeah, to Jay said, yeah, now
they are still pretty tight, unless I know they're tried to do something with the new design with the new one that's out.
But those old ones if you see one that's quite clean.
That hasn't been wrapped around a tree twin-turbocharged.
That's they're, they're really really cool cars.
It's one of the icons out of the sports car error from Japan.
And ya know how many around and I don't even want to know how much they go for. These that is study may know.
Well, I'm yeah, well obviously scholarships important would definitely know that, but I'll just say to you now that they've brought out the new super in a manual and apparently it is brilliant to drive, you know it's just an M3 is it for its as its as its said for em. It's a it's going to be 58 but
it's got It's been revised by Toyota with in pretty much every facet and everyone's like this is the best driving BMW.
That became W makes It looks better.
I prefer the look of it. Absolutely.
I sing was singing One in person.
I'm saying I saw on the other, some of the other night that had set of teeth 37's else on there, I went up to it on my God it's a good-looking car. It actually it looks right.
And I'm like you know what, I think they now that car I was a bit skeptical at the start but now seeing them in person.
Again it's one of those cars look better and better in person and yeah and apparently every reviewer just says, the way they drive especially in the manual is like it's just it's just it's utter utter. Perfection.
It's wanted to go to cracking gasps.
Yeah, I think Toyota bill, you know, the because I sort of lost it did a lot of the fans that were looking for the manual to begin with, hopefully they're convinced some of them back.
And yeah, I mean, I haven't seen one in person or pest driven my own, but yeah, I reckon they would be.
I don't think that you can launch a product that is based off the, you know, the older Supra.
That is not great. So I think it's yeah, it's good
to see. Absolutely Another couple quick
mentions, I think how you, and I have nailed the N Division, I think they're just as big charted in division.
I think everything that that's got the badge is just with a cracking Drive. I think they, I think they
absolutely nailed it. But are we still trying to get
sponsored by? Have our because yeah.
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GT that? I don't know.
That poop SUV thing. It looks like a budget is 6, but
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I want to live in eastern mysticism, so bad.
I was gonna say also guys to add to that list Ethan you 9, M5.
I thought that car was just just yeah, 5-liter V8 manual only just a real like still today looking like a good In car, I was going to say also Lexus with the ongoing, the LFA back into the story, but that car they just nailed like in every aspect. And why is the look, the way it
drives like, if Jay-Z says, that the best guys ever driven, you know, that must mean something? How well, engineered that car
is. If, if you need a V10, it's the
Viper. I love the Dodge Vipers,
especially like the widow-makers, The Unbroken, the 95-81. Yeah, no traction control.
Well, they are absolutely weapon.
I know a guy that's got one and it's hilarious.
I I think I think your idea in if that's kind of like the thing that they now in every aspect, I think they did.
But yeah, I would agree. They do they do sound pretty
good to any last ones Ria's before you go.
Because I know you got to go my friend any other last one?
I think, from Australian car manufacturing point of view the last generation of the Toyota Camrys.
I mean, we know they're not as iconic as the Au Falcon true, but because that's a car that's Timeless, like high-end eyes.
Now, copying it in their bionics.
I would have said more, the The 90s one, I swear it's sad, but the 90s camera for still in the auto.
This is that god-awful green color.
You can hear the keys and driving a camera at the moment, you can see, you can see the rubbing, a camera, a camera.
Any last words from use Cody, and Adrian, before we move on to the quiz, and I know you're is you're going to go so we'll let you go. But any last ones?
Probably the revamp of the Mercedes A-Class?
Yes. Think that brought everything
all new era of hatchbacks. Yes, more back on the market.
You see them everywhere? They look great.
They do everything you want. You know, my parents have got
one. They've had it for many years
and can't fault. It is fantastic.
Yeah, I think they know that a class when I want to cover my, we're seeing when they first came out like that.
Is it like not not not their first generation.
The like, the last and the fan and the current, and I think they just got it spotted and they kind of really pushed forward the, the hyper hatch, with the A45 and things.
But but yeah, just as a hat, I think, I think there's a volume seller. That's they really did well with
that. Yeah.
Yeah Sam write a nice still look great.
Even if you just got like you know, the base model one, they sought really really nice. I've done well for for
hatchbacks, compared to the old, what the a class is used to look like and I remember those horrible things, holy yuck, boy, did I turn that around? And yeah, they did a great job.
What we should do is we should do an episode about car turnarounds. When were sober Add that they
they're like no we're going to nail it and they come back with which I think for didn't do with the be a falconer.
I thought they went backwards, you know.
Because they now that I'm the are you, it was perfect.
That's it. And then yeah, the be a was just
such a letdown comparing one example of backwards example, Adrian. Any last words from you my
friend, anything, but the IU falcon, No, I was actually gonna say funny enough. If we're gonna go hatchback,
blood, Focus RS. Yes.
The last ones I came out though, were actually not half bad.
Yeah, they now than they were bloody cracking car to drive, really, really good. You know, for do is make Duma
always have made a good hot hatch and, you know, the the whether it be focused, Fiesta, escort, whatever they've done it. Their they've always kind of
done. It really really well, they
would get a claim for it. So.
Yeah. But that aren't that last
generation Iris. Despite the first few having
head gasket issues with the wrong head, gaskets being used, they were quite a good car. So yes, I would agree with you
there. Actually, I'm going to say, I
don't know what I dislike more. And now you falcon or a 35 JDR,
tough cheese. Scotty, why would why do we
invite him back? Why do we keep inviting him
back? Like, I don't understand, hey,
you know, I'm not a massive fan of the very first.
D 5j. How and they first came out.
Yeah. Just 35 in general.
Not that, not that great. I mean, they pretty much look
the same. They're just trying to do what
Just not as good as what Porsche has done.
Hmm. Yeah.
I guess that would go into our list for today's talk to.
You have to be Porsche? Yes, you can't fall to go V.
Any of them. They fixed everything.
David showed you that. Something at putting an engine
on the rear, still works fine, and it's just brilliant watching. The career cups especially
hearing it in person. The Carrera Cup on my own on.
That is loud. It's like a whole A horde of
swarming angry bees. It's it is, it is insane.
I I think Maddie knows last year, I got to do a whole Drive day with Porsche and I drove the 2023 Porsche. 911 GTS in manual
and the pdk that manual is the most amazing manual car ever driven. Well, it is fantastic.
Like the wait, Shifts. And it's so clean.
You know, these days you got screenings like the take.
And I drove on that Dre had screaming from one end to the other. This only had a little
literally, a speedometer in the middle, and it shows you the gear you're in, on a digital screen in the middle of that speedometer. That's all it has.
And that was amazing. So that was the 911 GTS in
manual, but then Porsches head driver.
I took me around a private racetrack three laps in a GT2 RS, nor my God, and this guy, you know how an initial D you see like them sort of clipping, the gutters.
And those this guy was clipping cones on the track, he is he I think I can't remember his name is a bolder, t2x baathist, Finn, I can't remember his exact name, but he took me around this track and this GT2 RS I think it's 800 850.
Yeah. 150,000 in that in that similar to that manaro blue.
Yeah and he's just it's insane how fast and how quick they are even in the manuals. And yeah, Porsche you know, they
are the Kings when it comes to sports cars, agent.
May not think they're super cars but they do they do it.
Well, look, I do have to say after special Watching baathist.
That was on this year. Yeah, saying a Porsche coming
second when, after last year, they weren't even in the same class like they have drastically improved, so it might not be super card. I don't think just yet, but it's
certainly getting there. Now, there's certainly good that
I do have to agree. I do like, can I just say, is I
hate you? Because you went into my old one
of my old room, all-time dream, cars of GT2 RS.
Like It's just that is Automotive pornography on all sorts of levels in it. It's just an incredible car but
to I wanted to add in there. I think that they Porsha.
I like if you don't count the came in and the so that the, the cayenne and the endemic on and because they're just glorified, you know, Tiguan, that's nothing.
All right. It's like a camera.
Even a Cayman GT4 RS like from for all accounts that is just as quick as a GTS. Three Rs and and it's got, you
know, the engine in the back and it's a good.
They look at their company that do sports cars, like that's what they do like that. That's that you have to be good
at it and and I like everyone's at all Porsha Porsha Porsha Porsha. But you know what?
They deserve the accolades because they always they can kind of always manage and and I get why they have to sell the, the cat, the cayenne and stuff, which let's be honest, are not real Porsches, but you can is an awesome offer But it's not until it's a Tiguan in drag. I don't attend one now made the
bush is awesome. I would much rather take one of
those and, like, literally, anything else is there's a whole lot of disco on Adrienne, because they're reliable awful, just awful, I'll take it for straight away.
The canes are awesome and they sent absolutely magnificent.
They do, they do, I will agree with that?
I did Sarah, and let's be honest, your hard when it sounds wet. Let's be honest.
If we're gonna talk Porsches, okay?
The Cayenne I would much rather than any Boxster.
Was it the Cayman? I think it is the bottom of the
line? Once they're all terrible.
Now, then you're gonna go get a Porsche, get a real 1911.
Okay, we can debate this after after after the show Adrienne, but Cayman and a and a box that I've been show the same platform as the boxes. Only the convertible Cayman.
They are a proper driver's car. They are a proper sports car.
They act like saying an M3 is a proper M3 convertible as a proper driving this car? No, it's not.
No, it's not. Okay, it's a cruiser for the
people that want a real car. The kind of Ford, it may be more
expensive than the bloody sedan Coupe.
Did terrible 911. Let's go to help me out here,
mate. Please help me out, but be a
voice of reason. When I first came out, when it
first came out yourself for suffered, I like him and they are a lot better than a Boxster. Any day the week that get
anybody says, okay, I'll look how I was Not a fan of the original boxes, but Jesus will come a long way, but still want something that handles. Who would look really anywhere
else? I guess it depends what you're
driving at for. What are you done?
Yeah, yeah, that's exactly it. Yeah, understand what are you
looking at? What are you looking for?
What do you want it to do? And yeah, I think Porsche is.
Number one. They need to sell cars then.
We can have cars like the GT2 RS.
Correct. So we actually speak of that.
Did you see? I don't know if you guys watch
on. Adam has a and he's unfortunate
accident actually. Yeah, so there's another
YouTuber rebuilding the car. All right.
Which one is name's Ben Armstrong High.
Not too low virus. Had it.
It's in his shop. Yeah.
But Armstrong's from the UK and he went and bought it GT3 RS and he was saying like how much of a pain it is to buy parts in America for it. But man is that a beautiful car?
Got to say that that's one car that I do like was a beautiful girl, but that's another story raise.
I know you gotta go, my friend. Thank you job on the show
brother and we'll talk soon. new M5 competition, the
all-wheel-drive thing that was crashed and rebuilt it and he's his friend need of the car, which helps him out on the show.
So he, they rebuilt him as3. I think it was, which they've
done up to look like an Irish three of wide body Mustang.
Like, they don't all these different cars but it's just awesome to see like You wouldn't be able to do it here because everything would just cause like thousands of times more than what they are over there. Yeah.
That's like shipping costs for parts to yeah, there's that as well. But like you look at the
Murcielago that he's gone and done and with the Murciélago he just walked into lemming any instead I need these parts and they went and gave it to him. Okay, so here so it's like yeah,
like I love watching your stuff but he's rebuilding the GT3 RS at the moment and that's that things that I love it.
Hmm anyway well after what more of these videos I think highly recommend it. I think guys is real.
It's time for the quiz quiz it up.
I can already say studies one because I'm not I reckon it's going to be low scoring if we get 10 of us.
Real tough ones. I'm gonna say tonight on that
needs to be cockneys. Easy addition.
Easy addition. Well, let's get into the caucus
like one question. JDM additions.
One question. That's enough.
It's a what color is Adrienne's BMW?
M3. Oh, I don't at the moment.
Yeah, many. At the moment that.
Yeah, Yeah, good layer of dust. Some bonus questions.
Let's get into it. Question 1.
What does Mitsubishi actually mean?
Terrible car. No, Adrian.
The names been around for so long.
There's a lot to do with the name.
We're like originated from incorrect.
Mitsui means, 3, and b. She means choice water chestnut.
So the water just like it's like a propeller.
Yeah, that that's where it gets. The Mitsubishi level 3.
Got it. Yeah, I'm gonna ask you a
question. Yes.
How are we going to get that? It's commenting on.
He's not that name. Bonus question, what does
Mitsubishi not create out of the following options?
Hens, car's air conditioners printing.
Machinery. Footballs aircrafts are two
aircraft parts. But it doesn't create any more.
Yes, yes, Adrian, Adrian can I just ask was the first time.
Did you say hens pins as in pain?
Do you write with pins are pens? Is it just one that don't make?
Yeah, it's out of all those daily.
Don't let me make one of them. For pulse.
Well, that Adrienne correct that I make footballs, they make pins. They make pretty Machinery.
They make aircraft Parts. They make.
Hence they make pens. I've got them at work.
Question 2, let me guess. A leaks oil.
No it's actually quite good to be honest in their, he really good game with pain. Question to Hyundais new ionic
6, which is the IU Falcons replacement can charge 80% of its 77.4 kilowatt-hour battery in how many minutes.
Closest to will get will get the chocolate sighing.
I'll say 28 minutes, 20 minutes of Scotty 30 minutes there.
It says mr. Adrian the answer is 20 minutes
so Scotty gets got Leland. Well done pretty mean that's
that's not too hard. Yeah not too bad enough time for
you to go and have a scroll on your phone for a little bit of an Instagram. Yep.
Because ATMs in charge question 3 Miss Sadie's isn't here.
It's Lost v8-powered C63, what will it be called as an actual engine of the car, the name of the car, it's a C63.
What? I haven't seen this article know
they're doing on for the a class as well because it's there they lost power D class, V8, powered GT class.
Okay. Can you give us a hint in the
way? Is it something that was called
in the past? It's something that another car
that ended was called in the past.
But not a is it called the final Edition Collision is absolutely correct. Scotty, well, I'm glad you got
that. I still would've.
Got it bonus question. How much is it extra over?
The standard c63s, 1063 is like 190 Grand.
What's, how much extra do we think it is to have you there named final Edition written on the back of this car?
So how much extra on top of the 190?
Correct. I'll give a closest to its gonna
be like an extra 80 grand. 80 grams of Scotty.
I was going to say at least two hundred or two hundred thousand dollars, okay. Not with them at least two
hundred thousand dollars over the standard 60.
I know. So let me rephrase them saying
how do I say this out? I'd have to say that if you're
saying to the ship Haley, Grosvenor maybe 120, 120 extra.
It's only and it's a bargain. Another twenty eight thousand
four hundred dollars over the over the standard C63.
So I'm going to give a point five because you guys were way off school even though you get a point five thirty eight thousand dollar badge, badge or something.
Subaru, final Egyptian like three times more than what the normal one was. The a Mitsubishi Evo Foundation
was a A bit more expensive but they weren't like, but now they're going for way more than what they should be question for which Ford plant is currently being looked at by byd, also known as Bill. Your dreams to be purchased to
be protrude to help produce electric vehicles.
Hm, Adrian, is it kind of filled no inquiry, good guess though?
But incorrect. Was it one in Geelong incorrect?
It's the Saint Louis plant in Germany, where the Ford Focus is currently being made and won't be around much longer.
So maybe something here, we wonderful Square, something else. Yeah, we feel things happening
here. Will be great.
That would be would be awesome. Sorry.
But no, I'm far away. I guess that it's, they weren't
old enough charge to get better Services.
Question fought in which generation did the first V6.
Arrive in the Toyota Camry. Which year, which is which,
which generate, which generation racial?
Yes. Adrian Adrian, I'm Gonna Kiss
was a 90's one. No, yes.
I don't know which generation you have to give me a number of Jesus Christ. I caught in the generation of
number 3, incorrect. I don't know the Gen number.
I try to remember. What's that?
It was the ugliest. One, wasn't it?
The first one that came out that Jen, was it, I'll say, gen3 incorrect. You boasted gen3?
It was Gin to was the first one that I was killed as say.
That is all, I was gonna say, Jen for Christian.
The six, the highest spec of the Next Generation Ford, Mustang to arrive in Australia is called the what the what sorry The quit, the highest spec of the Next Generation Ford Mustang to arrive here in Australia is called the what scar.
It's got the black horse or something.
I'll give you a point. Five, you got horse.
White is a further word before that.
Oh I remember now. I know what it is Adrian.
This is just give it to her. I got no idea.
I was going to say the Prancing horse but that's a hard.
No, it's good. Is it was a dark dark horse here
today. Of course.
But I think your point five Scotty.
It's never black. Damn it bonus question.
What material is the manual shift not made out of that, they're really being oh, look what it's made out of.
Oh, want to say Alcantara. I know it's not that I don't
want to say so what do you what are you going to say that mr.
Mr. Mr. Giorgio beer cans, if only, it was better than old
people, pretty good horse. Cause lat.
Let's America because America Scotty trying to think of something that they haven't really used before, because it's not gonna be like titanium. I swear if it's bloody Alcantara
not because somebody saying is like, do something special.
So I'm trying to think of something.
Not seen my snacks, I don't really use much special things in the videos. It's special for Buster, he's
got he's so that's what I'm saying.
Like you think it's like A Mustang it's not have titanium, titanium is correct and it has four years.
Titanium Cannon exhaust is a bit of a very obscure question.
Now, hi brands are sold all over the world and for some reason, some countries prefer different brand, all this specific brand, which car company is being very proud recently about having sold the most cars in Turkey in 2022. I'll give you a hint.
It's a European car company. They're like look at are selling
so many. I'm gonna say it's not one of
the mainstream ones. Well, they're pretty mainstream.
Yeah. They're pretty they're pretty
well ended. They are sold here, they sold.
I mean I'm going to so many of them here but they are sold here. I'll give you a region, Italy.
Scott Scott just jumping. Yeah, it's a Fiat.
Fiat is correct. Scotty well done about to say
that the question 8, what was Australians top selling brand in 2022? Hmm.
I know it's not 30 anymore. Hmm.
Can you play the thinking music? While we decided I'll do the,
what's it called? The, the Jeopardy, music, turn,
turn, turn, turn, turn, Bonus question.
Is it beat Mazda its nearest competitor by how many cars closest to? So if Mazda was their closest
competitor in terms of cars sold how many more cars did hunt that Toyota beat Master, bi Oh, a lot.
Okay, a lot to give me, give me a number of a lot isn't exactly a number score. I'm gonna say 10,000. 10,000
cases, Scotty do. If they 800, I don't know.
Are you guys ready to fall off your chair?
It beat. Mesda in Australia alone.
Last year by 135 thousand, three hundred and thirty two cows.
What? That is grass, that is in same.
So I've got, I've got, I've got a deal for you, right?
This is, this is the, this is the sales Telly.
I felt my children when I was research, I was like you taking the piss Toyota sold last year too. 230 1050 cars, mesda its
nearest competitor in s. So 95 thousand, seven hundred
eighteen karat 78 3, 34th was Mitsubishi at 76 991 Hyundai 73.
3454 at sixty six and a half thousand mg. 49,000, Subaru, 36
hours, usually 35 and rounding out the top ten.
It was Volkswagen the top top car sold was see the Hilux followed by the Ford Ranger. That is absolute Insanity,
right? Like you never.
You didn't ever expect them to win by over 100,000 cars.
They not buy that much. I love Australia.
Wow. Toyota still popping out them
cars. Bloody hell, like I still like
it's a Hilux out of old. Ladies, I fell off.
I only do fell off my chair like I couldn't believe I couldn't really really know and it wasn't just like the Highlight.
So like this is that the highlights or 64,000 worth RAV4?
Store 34,000, worth crores, of 24,000, worth 25,000, linkers of 24,000 Prado? 21,000, you know, they just they
just the clue. That's all 12,000.
Like they just sold so many cars in Australia that, you know, there was a shortage of Land Cruisers.
Yeah, they still managed to beat everybody.
So that's as well. This is all you need to know.
It makes you think they're like As much as there was still a shortage, imagine if they wasn't a shortage like, how much would they have won by at that point? Because I know a lot of
dealerships were buying back cause if they sold like the year before like calling people out asking him, look, we'll pay you over retail. What you paid?
We just need to sell this car. Like seems science.
Interesting. Interesting to see.
But Chris is what I show, you know, neither of you deserve any marks on there because you guys want to go that far off.
Yeah. There's no one here at no, no
way. So 0 is worth before question 9
who owns Bentley currently Adrian Adrian?
Hang on, I know this one. All right because I had this
confusing one before roles is not owned by.
I've gone blank shit. I think Bentley's own by the Avi
video you guys right? Well then Volkswagen Audi group
bubble. Just I can't remember rose.
Rose owned by BMW these days bhima.
Yeah, that's what it was. Remember fishing 10 and the
final question of the quiz, how many generations of the Mazda to have there been? So I'm not including the 12mm
classifying when they've been called Meza to.
So since the early 2000s, I will say for incorrectly.
Did I just say? Yes, there's not a lot of them,
but yes, is not the other. We've got to get, I do now.
It's I'll tell you what, I dream, it's not for, and It's but it's either side of that number.
So, can you, can you guess what? Number that are?
I'm going to say 33 is correct. Well done, Adrienne one-off
Sports. God, is poured it into not
actually been watching. I want to go back on the last
question. Yep, the roles and the one I
don't deserve that because actually said, BMW, not be nothing. So I thought you said, I thought
you said being W, I'll be nice anyway.
Scotty, you're welcome Twitter or 123456.
Well that's got to thank you. It's got this like this here I
am thinking skirt is a great guys like now is monster had any while giving this will just be nice.
Nice! The great podcasts that I think
that that is a podcast. Do some plugs Adrian?
Got anything to play. Ugh.
But your your Adrian's spare parts and now Land Rover, parts to tutor. If you see me breaking down on
the side of the road don't stop nagging.
It's not that I need a plug part from Granada Quarter Park.
Enjoy it again while it's the long-term right now.
Oh my God on Friday night. Actually, that might be
benefits. The Roll Racing Friday night so
I'm not really interested in that one but I think I'd be too hot for running. It's a high 30s.
I'm pretty sure what to order. I do want to see my brother like
chop. Some people that would be put
that obeisance. Wait I want to see.
I need to send you the video of the Jeep you and the Hilux I have it on video. What was what will watch it
after the show? Scotty will get your golf tip of
the week alright? Golf tip of the week when you
are practicing try and practice on actual real grass.
The synthetic because sometimes when you're hitting the ball, even if you hit behind it, because with the irons you want to hit on top of the ball, but coming down on the ball and you dip, it should be after the wall.
You won't really feel it as much and your ball will still fly quite well, even if you're hitting the ground before it is a Synthetic Turf. So you get you might be hitting
well off there and when you go and grass you eating badly, that's probably the reason why it happens to me, too.
Would you say? Scotty good, place to practice
tight. Take your ball to a like a
secluded. Like Lord or sorry to add to it.
Like a big open Park when no one's there and give it a give it a whack even if peoples there.
It's okay. Yep.
Is it? You should definitely watch it.
Should be. All right.
There's a lot of driving ranges in that, where they've got like grass patches that you can use any way island Synthetic Turf.
But if you know if you just go and let a hit off the tee and driver and stuff, then there's no dramas or a few hits off the Synthetic Turf. But yeah, you just, you're not
getting that nice feel because I thought I was hitting them like awesome. Every single shot, you know,
nine out of ten of my shots were awesome.
And then I go on the grass. I was hitting before the ball
and I was going awful. So have to redo my swing and fix
everything up again soon. Yeah, you heard it here first,
guys, big, big important tip that with that, we get every week from from Scotty do Johnson, our good friend, Rosie, Ross, actor, or car Loop. If you want to have people
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as you see some of his Works written on the re driven, those are also hearing about them Sadie's to.
Yeah, yeah. Interesting to see what's going
on on the driven. He's doing a lot of work being
very, very interesting to see what he says about that.
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About this episode
A lively discussion unfolds around the cars that manufacturers truly got right, featuring hosts Matty J, Adrian, and Alum Deep Singh. They share personal updates, including Adrian's new off-road Land Rover Disco and Scotty's R31 project car. The conversation highlights iconic models like the Holden Monaro, Ford Falcon, and Mazda RX-7, while also touching on the merits of the Tesla Model S and the Kia Stinger. The hosts debate design, performance, and the nostalgic appeal of classic cars, making for an engaging episode filled with automotive insights and humor.
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BMW 6 Series
BMW M3
BMW M5
BMW X5
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Chevrolet Impala
Dacia SuperNova
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GMC Typhoon
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Jeep Cherokee
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Land Rover Range Rover
Lexus LFA
Mazda RX-7
Mercedes-Benz A-Class
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution
Porsche 911
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Toyota Camry
Toyota Hilux
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Toyota MR2
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Toyota Supra
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