The Jaguar Type 01 Is Here, New Lotus V8 Supercar, the Revuelto Market is Crashing!
THIS CAR POD! with Doug DeMuro & Friends!
The Jaguar Type 01 Is Here, New Lotus V8 Supercar, the Revuelto Market is Crashing!
THIS CAR POD! with Doug DeMuro & Friends! · May 15, 2026
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Term
electric DV
“Electric DV” means an early prototype electric car. It’s built to test the electric parts and how everything fits before the final production version.
Car
Jaguar Type 01
Jaguar Type 01 is Jaguar’s upcoming electric concept car. They’re talking about whether it’ll be a four-door and how well the doors line up with the body (the panel gaps).
Term
shut lines
“Shut lines” are the small gaps where a door (or trunk) meets the car’s body. If they’re “tight,” the door fits neatly and looks more precise.
Term
gullwing
A gullwing door is the kind that opens upward from the roof, instead of swinging out normally. It’s a signature feature you often see on exotic cars.
Term
horsepower
Horsepower is a number that describes how much power the engine can make. Higher horsepower usually means the car can accelerate harder, especially when paired with good traction.
Term
torque
Torque is the engine’s twisting force. More torque generally helps a car feel quick and responsive, especially when you’re not already at high speed.
Term
zero tailpipe emissions
“Zero tailpipe emissions” means the car doesn’t produce exhaust smoke or gases from the exhaust pipe while you’re driving it. Electric cars do this because they don’t burn gasoline or diesel.
Term
electric car
An electric car runs on electricity stored in a battery. Instead of a gasoline engine, it uses electric motors to move the car.
Car
Nissan Leaf
The Nissan Leaf is a common electric car. The hosts mention it to say that many EVs can end up feeling pretty similar to drive.
Concept
used market
The used market is where people buy cars that have already been owned. When the hosts say a car “tanked,” they mean it became worth less when resold.
Concept
spy shots
Spy shots are unofficial photos of a car prototype taken before the company officially reveals it. People use them to guess what the final car will look like.
Concept
ultra luxury electric sedan market
This is the market for very expensive electric sedans. The hosts are saying that category is getting bigger, even if some specific cars don’t sell well.
Car
Polestar 3
Polestar 3 is an electric Polestar SUV. The hosts compare it to the Jaguar Type 01 by pointing out a similar design detail: no rear window.
Car
Polestar 4
The Polestar 4 is an electric car. It’s shaped like a crossover but looks more sporty than a typical SUV. The podcast mentions it because it’s part of Polestar’s lineup of EVs.
Term
long lag
“Long lag” means the car doesn’t respond immediately when you press the pedal. You feel a delay before the power kicks in.
Concept
concept car
A concept car is a showpiece vehicle built to preview future design directions or technologies, often without being intended for immediate mass production. Concept cars can still include real engineering ideas—like packaging features—meant to demonstrate what could come later.
Term
front trunk
A “front trunk” is extra storage in the front of the car. Instead of using only the rear trunk, you get a second storage area up front.
Concept
build to order production
“Build to order” means the car is made after someone orders it. Instead of sitting on lots, the factory waits for the order, so fewer cars may be available right away.
Car
Nissan Z
The Nissan Z is a popular Japanese sports car that many enthusiasts follow. Here, they’re basically saying the newer Z isn’t showing up as often anymore, likely because Nissan is limiting how many they make or how they’re distributed.
Car
Toyota Supra
The Toyota Supra is a famous sports car that car fans love and often modify. In this segment, they’re using it as an example of a model that became rare/ended production, and they’re comparing that situation to what’s happening with the Z.
Term
allocation
“Allocation” is how car companies decide which dealers get the limited cars they build. If allocation is limited, some dealers (and customers) may not be able to get the exact car they want.
Car
Honda S2000
The Honda S2000 is a Honda sports car known for feeling sharp and revving high. In this conversation, they’re treating it as a sports car that was designed specifically for that job.
Car
Toyota MR2 Spider
The Toyota MR2 Spider is a Toyota sports car that’s built to feel light and playful. Here, it’s mentioned as another big Japanese sports-car that came out around the year 2000.
Car
Subaru WRX STI
The Subaru WRX STI is the more extreme, performance-focused version of the WRX. They mention it as a car that comes from a performance version of an existing model, and then they say you can’t really buy an STI anymore.
Car
Nissan Gtr
The Nissan GT-R is a fast Japanese sports car with a reputation for being seriously quick. Here it’s brought up as another example of Japanese performance cars showing up and sticking around.
Term
purpose built sports cars
A “purpose-built sports car” is made specifically to be a sports car, not just a regular car that got a performance upgrade. In this segment, they’re using that idea to compare the S2000 to other performance models.
Car
BMW M3
The BMW M3 is a high-performance BMW that’s based on the regular 3 Series, but tuned to be much sportier. Here it’s mentioned as an example of a performance version of an existing car.
Car
BMW M5
The BMW M5 is a very fast BMW sedan. They mention it alongside the M3 to make the point that some cars are performance upgrades of regular models, not purpose-built sports cars.
Car
Toyota Gr86
The GR 86 is a small sports car made by Toyota. It’s designed to be fun to drive, mainly because it drives the back wheels and feels lively. People talk about it because it’s a modern version of the kind of Japanese sports car enthusiasts like.
Car
Mazda MX-5 / Miata
The Miata is a small two-seat convertible made by Mazda. It’s built to be light and easy to drive, especially for people who like steering and cornering. The podcast notes it’s still being made today.
Brand
STEC
STEC makes protective film you apply to a car’s paint. The host is saying they trust STEC to protect their own car.
Car
Porsche Carrera
The Carrera RS is a special, performance-oriented version of the Porsche 911. It’s designed to be lighter and more focused on driving. The podcast mentions it while talking about how people maintain and protect their Porsche cars.
Car
Porsche Carrera GT
The Porsche Carrera GT is a rare, expensive supercar with an engine in the middle and a V10. Here, it’s mentioned because the host is using a protective film to keep its paint looking good.
Term
paint protection film
Paint protection film is a clear protective sheet that you put on your car’s paint. It helps stop rock chips and minor scratches from ruining the finish.
Term
self-healing properties
Self-healing properties mean the protective film can “recover” from small scratches. After some time (often with heat from the sun), the damage becomes less noticeable.
Term
Dino Shield technology
Dino Shield is the name for STEC’s particular protective film material. The host says it stays very clear and can help small scratches fade away.
Term
fashion films
Fashion films are decorative wraps/overlays that change how a car looks. In this case, they can add a color change or a carbon-fiber style while still protecting the paint.
Concept
hybrid V8 supercar
A hybrid V8 supercar is a high-performance car that uses a V8 engine plus an electric system. The electric part can help add power and make the car work more efficiently than a gas-only setup.
Term
horse motors
“Horse motors” here is the name the hosts are using for the company supplying the engine. They’re basically saying the car’s power system comes from another manufacturer.
Company
Renault Geely joint
They say the engine supplier is a partnership between Renault and Geely. That means the two companies teamed up to build parts for cars.
Car
Lotus Emira
The Lotus Emira is a Lotus sports car. They mention it because the announcement just happened that it won’t come with a manual transmission.
Brand
Mercedes AMG Turbo 4
Mercedes-AMG is Mercedes-Benz’s performance brand. They’re saying the Emira’s new engine is coming from that AMG performance ecosystem.
Term
turbo three liter V6
This is a V6 engine that’s about 3.0 liters, but it uses a turbocharger. The turbo helps the engine make more power by pushing more air into it.
Term
automatic transmission
An automatic transmission is the kind of gearbox that changes gears by itself. The hosts are pointing out that this new engine will only come with an automatic.
Term
CVT
CVT means continuously variable transmission. Instead of having set gear steps, it can smoothly adjust the ratio, which can feel different than a normal automatic in how the car accelerates.
Term
four speed automatic
A four-speed automatic is a gearbox with four gears that shifts by itself. With fewer gears than newer cars, it may not keep the engine in its best “sweet spot” as easily.
Term
turbo V6
A turbo V6 is a V6 engine with a turbocharger. The turbo helps the engine make more power by pushing extra air into it.
Term
overdrive
Overdrive is a gear that helps the car cruise with lower engine RPM. That usually makes highway driving smoother and can help fuel use.
Term
V6 engine
A V6 is an engine with six cylinders arranged in a V shape. It’s a common sports-car engine type, and they’re talking about how this one stacks up versus other V6s.
Term
European emissions regulations
These are the rules in Europe about how clean cars have to be. If an engine can’t meet the new limits, the company has to change it or stop selling that version.
Concept
manual transmission vs emissions compliance
They’re wondering if a manual gearbox makes it tougher to pass emissions rules. The reason is that manuals and automatics can make the engine run differently during the official emissions test.
Term
test cycle
A test cycle is the official “driving routine” and measurement method used to check emissions. Different transmissions can behave differently in the test, which can change whether the car meets the rules.
Term
manual cars
“Manual cars” means cars where you shift gears yourself using a clutch and gear stick. The point being made is that it can be expensive to pair new engines with a manual setup, so companies may avoid doing it.
Car
Lotus Amira
The Lotus Amira is a Lotus sports car. In this discussion, they’re saying the manual version will be the one people want, while the automatic version may not age as well with buyers.
Car
Jaguar XJS
The Jaguar XJS is a classic Jaguar grand tourer. Here it’s mentioned as an example of how a four-speed automatic can make a car less desirable later on.
Car
Lotus Evora
The Lotus Evora is a mid-engine sports car made by Lotus. Here it’s mentioned because its resale prices are holding up—around $60k, according to the hosts.
Term
four-cylinder
A “four-cylinder” engine has four working cylinders. The hosts are comparing it to a different engine type and saying the four-cylinder version makes the same power as the other one they’re talking about.
Term
Supercharged V6
A “supercharged V6” is an engine with six cylinders where a supercharger helps push extra air in to make more power. They’re comparing another car’s engine to this one and saying the power output is the same.
Term
depreciate
Depreciation is how the car’s price tends to go down as it gets older. Some cars keep their value better than others, which is why people talk about it.
Car
Lotus Elise SC
The Lotus Elise is a small, lightweight sports car that’s built to feel quick and nimble. “SC” means it’s supercharged, so it uses forced air to help make more power than the basic versions.
Term
Mileage
Mileage is how far the car has been driven. Lower mileage usually makes a car more appealing, but maintenance and overall condition are still important.
Brand
Mercedes-Benz Maibach
“Mercedes-Benz Maibach” is mentioned as the kind of person at Mercedes-Benz who would offer that paint color. It’s basically a reference to Mercedes’ color/design decision-maker.
Term
paint color
Here, “paint color” means the exact exterior color choice for the car. It’s being discussed as a standout styling option.
Car
Mercedes-Benz GLS
The GLS is a large luxury SUV made by Mercedes-Benz. It’s designed to carry more people and provide a comfortable ride. The podcast mentions it when talking about the big SUV category and when it was introduced.
Car
Lamborghini Urus
The Urus is Lamborghini’s SUV. It’s meant to be a luxury vehicle, but it’s also built to be very fast. The podcast is talking about whether there might be an even bigger or upgraded version called “Urus Plus.”
Car
Audi Quattro
Quattro is Audi’s system that helps send power to more than one wheel. The podcast mentions seeing it show up on the car’s display while braking. It’s basically a reminder that the car is using its traction/all-wheel-drive features.
Car
Audi Q5 Quattro
The Audi Q5 is a luxury SUV. “Quattro” is Audi’s name for its all-wheel-drive setup. Here they’re talking about a brake-light design that shows “Quattro” on the rear glass when the car slows down.
Company
Stalantas
They’re talking about Stellantis, the big company that owns brands like Chrysler, Jeep, and Ram. The point here is whether that company will sell a very cheap car.
Car
Dodge Dart
The Dodge Dart is a compact Dodge model. The hosts are saying some versions had serious engine and transmission problems, and they also mention a fun-sounding turbo/manual version.
Term
2.4 liter turbo
This means a 2.4-liter engine with a turbo. The turbo helps the engine make more power by pushing extra air into it.
Term
16 manual
This sounds like they meant a 6-speed manual. With a manual, you choose the gear yourself using a clutch and the shifter.
Car
Toyota Corolla
The Corolla is a very common Toyota compact car. It’s known for being practical and easy to live with. The podcast mentions it because there are a huge number of Corollas from that era.
Company
Stalantis
They’re talking about Stellantis (the big car company behind brands like Jeep and Ram). The point here is whether Stellantis makes cars that hold up well over time.
Term
Hurricane straight six
They’re talking about an engine called the “Hurricane,” which is an inline-six design. The hosts are discussing how strong it is and how it’s planned to be used.
Car
Toyota Grand Highlander
The Grand Highlander is a bigger Toyota SUV meant for families. It’s designed to carry more people and luggage than a smaller SUV. The podcast is talking about whether people will pay for expensive options on a vehicle like this.
Car
Jeep Grand Wagoneer
The Grand Wagoneer is a big Jeep SUV meant for comfort and lots of space. The podcast notes it’s very expensive, around $100,000. That’s why it comes up—because it’s priced like a luxury vehicle.
Term
extended range EV
An extended-range EV is an electric car designed to go farther than usual. It uses the battery, but it also has a backup way to keep power available for longer trips.
Term
plug-in hybrid
A plug-in hybrid is a car that has both an electric battery and a gas engine. You can charge it like an EV, and when the battery runs low it still drives like a hybrid.
Car
Jeep Wrangler
The Jeep Wrangler 4xE is a Wrangler that can plug in and use electricity. It’s still meant for off-road driving, but with a hybrid system that can run on electric power too.
Car
Jeep Grand Cherokee
The Jeep Grand Cherokee 4xE is a Grand Cherokee that you can plug in to charge. It’s also built to handle rougher roads thanks to four-wheel drive, while using a hybrid system.
Car
Kia Sorento
The Sorento is a Kia SUV for families. Depending on the version, it can be set up as a hybrid or a plug-in hybrid. The podcast brings it up while talking about which plug-in options exist in this kind of vehicle.
Car
Jeep Renegade
The Renegade is a small Jeep SUV. It’s meant for people who want a Jeep but in a smaller size. The podcast mentions it because the model names can be confusing when you’re trying to keep track of them.
Term
hybrid V12 power plant
This means the car has a V12 engine and also an electric motor. The battery and electric motor can help the car move faster and sometimes reduce how much the engine has to do by itself.
Topic
Pebble Beach
Pebble Beach is a famous car event in California. When a new supercar is shown there, it usually means it’s a big deal and gets a lot of attention.
Topic
quail
The Quail is another well-known car event near Pebble Beach. It’s where a lot of special car announcements and reveals happen.
Car
Chevrolet C8
The Corvette is a sports car made by Chevrolet. It’s built for performance, but it’s also meant to be driven normally. The podcast brings it up while talking about how certain sports cars are put together.
Car
Mercedes-Benz Clk Gtr
The CLK GTR is a very rare Mercedes supercar. It’s built for high performance and is closely tied to racing. The podcast mentions it while comparing how special cars feel and sound when you interact with them.
Concept
depreciation
Depreciation is how a car’s value goes down after it’s been bought. They’re saying these supercars aren’t holding their value as well as people expected.
Term
Sticker
“Sticker” means the official list price shown on the car’s window sticker. If they’re selling under sticker, buyers are paying less than that list price.
Car
Lamborghini Aventador
The Aventador is a Lamborghini supercar. The podcast is talking about how its price has stayed strong over time compared to some other supercars. In other words, it hasn’t depreciated as quickly.
Car
BMW 8 Series Grand Coupe
The BMW 8 Series Grand Coupe is a BMW with a sporty, coupe-like look, but with four doors. They’re comparing the new car’s likely shape to that kind of design.
Brand
Zagato
Zagato is an Italian company famous for making unique-looking cars. Here, they’re saying Zagato worked on a special project based on a BMW M4.
Car
BMW M4
The BMW M4 is a faster, sportier BMW version of a regular 4 Series. It’s made to drive more aggressively than a standard model. The podcast also mentions a special project built from the M4 by another company.
Concept
shooting brake
A shooting brake is a car shape that mixes a sporty coupe look with wagon practicality. Think: stylish front like a coupe, but with more space behind.
Car
Aston Martin Vanquish
The Vanquish is a luxury sports car from Aston Martin. The “shooting break” version is a special style that looks like a coupe but has extra cargo space like a wagon. The podcast mentions it because it’s an interesting, less common configuration.
Car
Ferrari 599 GT Z
This is another Zagato-modified Ferrari, this time based on the 599. The hosts are reacting to how extreme the styling looks.
Car
Aston Martin DB7 Zagato
This is an Aston Martin DB7 that was redesigned by Zagato. They’re praising it because the Zagato styling makes it look especially good.
Car
Chrysler New Yorker
The New Yorker is a Chrysler model name. It’s known as a comfortable, full-size car in the past. In the podcast, it’s mentioned because there’s an article or discussion about it.
Car
Lamborghini Countach
The Countach is a famous Lamborghini supercar. It’s known for its bold, unusual design that makes it instantly recognizable. The podcast mentions it because it’s such an iconic car to enthusiasts.
Car
Lexus LBX
The Lexus LBX is a small luxury SUV/crossover that Lexus sells in some countries, but not in the United States. The conversation is basically about how obscure it is to U.S. shoppers.
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Hello!
And welcome to this car pod!
I'm Kenan.
I'm Filippo.
I'm Doug.
And it's time for the news.
Ah!
Jaguar.
A beginning mistake.
Yep.
I think we've said all we need to say.
Yeah.
So what is the story?
Okay.
This car, which has been showing all around the world,
but not formally ready for production yet,
is now we know the name.
This is Jaguar's concept, the electric DV, new Jaguar.
Yes.
It's called the Type 01.
Type 01 type of one now.
Apparently it will be confirmed a four door,
which this, I don't know how many doors this has.
Right.
I'll tell you what, their shut lines have gotten really tight.
I can't even see where that is.
Well, quality phenomenon.
This may be a two door, but like this,
I don't know what this is.
And also, what if the door opens like a gullwing?
You know what I mean?
Oh.
The real one will not be that.
It's going to be a four door,
and it's going to be called the Type 01,
and it's going to have about 1,000 horsepower
and at least 960 pound feet of torque.
1,000 horsepower.
185.
But what this is, is the Cadillac Celestic
of the Jaguar world.
And I have a suspicion it were fair just as well.
Do you agree?
Equal success, I'm sure.
Yes.
How many Celestics have you guys seen on the road?
Try to count it out.
Let me carry the one of the none.
Yeah.
Oh, combined zero.
I also have not seen one.
So unfortunately, it's zero.
But one of our coworkers has seen them.
He lives in Detroit, but he has seen them.
I know a guy whose sister's uncle saw a Celestic.
There's a guy in the next town over.
He's seen one.
Jag says that the type connects to their heritage.
It does.
And then 01 points forward.
Zero tailpipe emissions and the first car of a new chapter.
01
Now, I think that the leading zero in 01 is ambitious.
I think we'll see.
I would have just called it the type one.
Anyway, what is it going to come out?
They said it'll be out.
It's going to be officially revealed later this year,
which means it's out maybe in a year.
Yeah.
27 is what they're saying.
I want you to know that per quote, per quote from the Jaguar head,
our engineers have achieved this with a vehicle that looks and drives
like no other electric car.
Unfortunately, most electric cars pretty good.
Well, and also, well, I wouldn't mean it drives like no other electric car.
Like they all, every electric car I've ever driven from the Nissan Leaf
to the Rimac, Nevada drove basically the same.
Nissan is thrilled by that comparison.
They're nine seconds.
Neither of those cars sold.
Both of those cars tanked on the used market.
So I have a suspicion what's going to happen.
It'll drive like no other electric car.
I think it will drive like most other electric cars.
And I wanted it.
What was the other thing it'll look like?
I mean, that's well, there is now spy shots of it.
And I'll tell you what, it looks like a celestic pull up.
Just type in Jaguar type one.
It's like wild how much it looks like a celestic.
It's like a car.
It sucks because that's spy shot.
It sucks because now the celestic has competition,
which is going to make it even harder to sell celestics.
No, a rising tide, you know.
The rising tide of the $400,000 ultra luxury electric sedan market.
By the way, I should note, we also now know that there's no rear window.
Oh, good.
Just like the Polestar 3.
Polestar 4?
Yeah, that's the one.
No one knows.
Then mount.
There's a rear photo.
There's a rear spy shot where it literally is.
They may have just done a celestic.
It's not that one, but it doesn't matter.
You get the idea.
Are you excited for this vehicle?
As excited as I am about any other Jag that's coming out.
As much as I am making fun of it, I am legitimately excited for it.
Well, I think this looks cool.
It looks cool.
That does look cool.
I always felt this look cool, or at least like new and futuristic and crazy.
And I loved, obviously, like everyone did.
I loved the video when they announced their rebrand.
Do you have a watch in a while?
We were so nice to it on the podcast when it came out.
And we had a bunch of people from Berlin that appeared.
It was good content people.
It was like a whistling video.
You never knew what was going to explode next.
That's true.
The purple road.
It was the brand primarily.
So anyway, this is going to be exciting.
And probably 400-ish miles of range is what they're targeting.
Three motors, 1,000-ish horsepower.
It's not going to sell.
But then they'll do lesser models, the Type 02 and the Type 03 and all that.
You know, Polestar has already backed themselves into the corner by numbering the cars because
the two is actually the flagship.
No, the four is now the flagship.
The two is more expensive than the four.
I'm sorry.
The three, the five.
The two is the sedan.
The three is the flagship.
The three is the smallest SUV.
That's the flagship.
No, the big sedan is the flagship.
Well, it's nice to know that it's easy to keep it straight.
What big sedan?
The one you reviewed.
The hatchback.
The one.
The four.
The four is cheaper.
Just throw out another number.
The four starts at 56.
The three starts at 68.
The three is the flagship.
My goodness.
You're right.
The three is the flagship.
Wow.
68 is so much more than that car should cost.
Well, I bet, I bet you can get deals.
Yeah.
I love how it looks, by the way, the Polestar 3.
And Jag is probably going to end up in the same situation unless, of course, the next
car is called something different.
Type 02.
I'm excited.
It's going to be very exciting.
We're going to see it later this year.
A thousand horsepower.
I mean, in all truth, no one is excited and I really think this is going to be a dud.
Yep.
Yep.
Also, it was revealed in 2025.
It's long lag.
Long lag.
Before seeing it in real life.
Like the hood.
Yeah.
Very long.
In the back, honestly.
What do you think is under the hood?
I hope it's a long story.
I hope it's a long story.
It doesn't look like it opens, so probably nothing.
The Celeste, well, it's a concept car.
The Celeste had a front trunk.
Okay.
On to our next new story, please.
The Z.
The new Nissan Z, which will soon become the old Nissan Z.
Really?
Well, it kind of already is.
The drive is reporting that the Nissan Z, which has just gotten refreshed, is going to switch
to going forward to a, there's apparently a leaked Nissan dealer bulletin that says the
Z is going to switch to a build to order production, which means that they won't just be stock
units at the dealers.
They're going to specifically like build them in theory when a customer orders them, but
probably dealers will order stock units.
Nonetheless, I think the point is that production is going to decrease even more than it already
is, which is significant because I saw one on the road the other day and I was thinking,
wow, that is really rare.
It is rare.
I do notice them when I see them.
Again, we live in Southern California, kind of the land where you can have sports cars
and new cars are very common.
Ever since they launched the new Z, I really just don't see them.
So going forward, the 27 updates, which are notable, they're going to be super rare.
This is going to be like the 98 Supra.
This is going to be the one that if you're a Mark IV man, I don't know.
If you're a Mark IV man.
Yeah, yeah.
Which everybody is.
Yeah.
The updates, the refresh for 27 is actually pretty good.
Manual on the Nismo version.
It's desirable, but if it is order only and then build to order, that doesn't really work
with the US dealer structure very well or getting sales.
My understanding, whenever car companies have more or less, whenever car companies have
done build to order in the past, the building was done by the dealers, not necessarily the
customers because of the way that allocation works.
So my guess is, is that there will still be cars.
I think what they're basically trying to say is, we're going to limit production even
more than we already are.
And so Nissan Z is becoming less common.
Supra just ended, right?
Didn't Mark V have Supra just ended?
We're on the final edition this year.
This is it, dude.
This is the end.
The Japanese sports car reared again in the mid 2020s will quiet once again, just like
in the 90s.
When there were so many Japanese sports cars, Ken's birth was heralded by the Japanese
sports cars.
His birth year in the lunar calendar, the year of the Japanese sports car.
And then it all came crumbling down.
And everything has.
The prelude those back.
The prelude those back.
The prelude is back.
I have this theory that I've been nursing and maybe I'll drop it here.
I don't think the Japanese sports car ever went away.
You know how everybody talks about they were in the 90s and then they died?
Yeah.
Well, there were a lot of them.
Okay.
Let me posit you this.
3000 GT went to 99.
Okay.
And the NSX went to 05.
So let's skip the NSX for a second, although.
They did sell six at its production end.
Yeah.
But there's a lot of 0205s out there.
All right.
99 3000 GT.
In 2000, the S2000 came out.
Right.
The Japanese sports car was alive and well.
But one.
And in 2000, another very important Japanese sports car came out, the Toyota MR2 Spider.
And so I think that the Japanese sports.
The six cylinder Japanese sports car died.
Then the S2000 went all the way to 09.
And by then the WRX and the EVO and the STI were already here.
The GTR was already back and boom.
The Japanese sports cars never went away.
Those were not purpose built sports cars.
The S2000?
The S2000 was.
But the WRX and the STI were based on other fast versions of pre-existing cars.
But that was through.
Like the M3 and the M5, those were not sports cars.
Don't you agree that they are now dead?
There's no STI sold.
There's no Mitsubishi Lancer period sold.
No, there's a BRZ.
Excuse you.
There is a BRZ.
There is an FRS.
Okay.
Same car.
That's not what it's called anymore.
There is a Supra.
GR86.
There is a Supra, which is incredibly Japanese.
The Supra is dead.
The Supra is an incredibly Japanese car.
Yep.
And is still around.
For one more year.
The Z is around.
Well, and the one to add to it.
Prelude.
Where do you say the R35 falls on that?
Oh, it's also dead.
There's been production for all of it.
It's dead.
Basic.
The R35 is barely dead.
It is coming back is what we've learned, right?
And to be fair, to your point, the GRGT.
The GRGT is coming back.
That's a thing.
Yep.
The Miata is still in production.
Never left by the way.
Another Japanese sports car that never left.
The Miata is always the answer.
It has never been out of production.
I'm telling you, the Japanese sports car never went away.
This is a lie that you're being fed by German sports car media.
That's right.
You want to say propaganda, but that's not it.
Well, I don't know.
I mean, it is a piece of propaganda.
All that to say that the last Z, last year's production.
We still have Civic Type R, Integrated Type S.
Good point.
Everything's rolling.
The only accurate left.
All right.
The only accurate left.
I mean, in front of me.
Think about it.
No, my neighbor's got like an 07 MDX.
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Oh, very dark purple Lotus.
Lotus Supercar.
I got to tell you something.
I walked in the office today and told me there was going to be a new Lotus Supercar.
I don't know anything about it and I'll tell you why.
Last time Lotus said there'd be a Supercar, it was the Avigia.
Do you remember the Avigia?
I do.
Do you actually?
I incredibly do, but I think it's not the Avija.
Dude.
It's pronounced.
It doesn't exist.
Okay.
I saw one ever and it was at Villadest two years ago in Lake Como and it was like doing
journalist drives and the journalists were gushing over it because they had been selected
to sit in an Avija and guess what?
It doesn't exist.
They made 130 units.
Well, they were going to make 130 units.
Yeah.
No coverage.
I remember vividly.
I remember then really contemplating the idea of is an electric Supercar going to be
something.
And since there have been many others and the Avija or Avija.
It's not discussed anywhere.
But they've said that they're building a hybrid V8 Supercar now.
So it's not electric.
Okay.
Hybrid V8.
A thousand horsepower hybrid called the Type 135.
Codename that.
Man, they're sticking with the English love thing.
Codename.
Codename that.
Codename.
It'll have at least, this is what they say, at least 986 horsepower.
Now, the Jag only has 986 horsepower.
So they saw Jag's thing and they were like, we're going to step in.
Yep.
Yeah.
Okay.
So are you excited or are we doing?
No, I think we're kind of excited.
Well, chances that this ever exists.
The engine is coming from horse motors.
Horse motors.
Does that real?
Get ready.
Cause we got another horse motor story here in a second.
Okay.
So horse motors for those that don't know, which is everybody is a Renault Geely joint
collaboration.
Geely being the Chinese manufacturer who also owns Lotus and Volvo.
And the Polestar 3.
They own every Polestar 3.
But it is actually fundamentally the engineers from the Renault like motor.
Okay.
Which has been known to build decent engines sometimes.
Okay.
They have a new hybrid V8 and it's Lotus kind of returning like moving away from their
all electric initiatives to create a V8 hybrid supercar.
Okay.
Okay.
Yep.
That is something Lotus is vapor where we don't know.
I want you to move on to the next new story, which Ken and I got, you're going to go nuts
when you hear that.
I will say if they can make this with a manual.
It won't.
I'd be really into it.
They cannot.
They can't.
They speak because.
A Lotus.
Because I know they can't make it with a manual because today, moments before filming this
podcast, it was announced that the Lotus Emira, which is a car that perpetually looks
like it's been in some sort of front-end collision.
The Lotus Emira.
You're not wrong.
I love the Emira.
Is ditching its Toyota V6 a beloved powertrain.
A good engine.
And it's Mercedes AMG Turbo 4 for a new motor from horse.
Yep.
So it's getting a horse engine.
A lot of horsepower.
That engine will be a turbo three liter V6 with 540 horsepower.
Okay.
It's big power.
Big power.
A lot more in the cars now.
However, it will only be mated to an automatic transmission.
But this is the big news.
This is horse.
This is a brand new joint venture between the high tech Chinese and some other company.
He said, take a guess.
The number of gears for this automatic transmission.
Oh no.
I'm very afraid.
I didn't look.
I'll tell you it's a CVT.
Take a guess.
So your guess is infinite.
My guess is infinite.
Or yeah.
What did Jason can we say last week?
Or one.
I don't know.
Whatever.
I think I have a weird feeling it's going to be a CVT.
You're joking.
It is a four speed automatic.
Four.
What?
So you felt that the Emira was a good car when it was had a manual transmission and
a good Toyota reliable Toyota V6.
Well, too bad.
Have I got news for you?
It's going to be replaced with a 540 horsepower turbo V6 made by horsepower trains which undoubtedly
will be just as reliable as the Toyota V6 made into a four speed automatic.
Like it's 1989.
Like it's 1989 and we're buying an XJS.
Free speed with overdrive.
In their defense.
There's no defending it.
There's no defending that.
Two things in their defense.
One is it weighs just 160 kilograms which is 10 pounds lighter than any other V6 on
the market.
I would take 10 pounds.
Sorry.
It's hard to find a 10 pound weight at the gym this whole life.
10 kilograms, 22 pounds.
Okay.
I spent two weeks at the gym.
Second, I bet that the motor serves as some supplemental gear.
Like the way that they have it set up, I hope.
It's an automatic.
88% of Emiras are sold with the manual transmission.
So that's the other thing.
In this press release, they say people told us that they love the V6 engine and the V6
version is the best seller in the U.S. market.
Yep.
Because the four cylinders are not available with the manual.
What a spin.
That is an unbelievable spin.
What's his fellow's name?
Feng is his last name?
That's incredible.
They love V6s.
What can we say?
We're going to do more V6s.
88% of Emiras are sold with the manual.
This is a bad...
We've known that that Toyota V6 was going to go away for a while.
We were hearing about it because it's not complying with new European emissions regulations
in this current form and they didn't want to redevelop it.
Fine.
So be it.
The fact that they're not finding a way to make this...
Find an engine that can be made into a manual is...
How hard can it be?
It already is.
I don't know this for a fact and I'd be curious if there's some viewer who's more of an expert
on this than I am.
But I wonder if there is a difficulty of meeting Euro emissions regulations with a manual transmission.
I wonder if the manual transmission specifically is making it difficult to meet risk.
I wouldn't be shocked if that's true.
If they can program the automatic however they want.
I wouldn't be shocked if the EU regulators have their own drop cycle.
I don't know what the test cycle is.
I don't know what they measured out and all that stuff.
I don't know this as a fact that I'm not saying that it is a fact.
But I am curious because we hear rumors about the next GT3 and that they made due to a manual
only for the US and then you start to wonder, well, they're not idiots.
They're not doing this because they want to.
There's obviously a need to do it.
The powertrain is of course the need, but I wonder if there's a reason beyond that.
I'm sure there is.
BMW has said that they're not really...
Their ability to have higher horsepower engine in their manual cars is limited
because they don't want to redevelop a full new manual for additional engines.
I do wonder if Lotus manufacturer is kind of small.
It doesn't have the purchasing power to...
Well, it's 88% of sales.
I mean, you're doing it or you're not doing it.
88% that should hit the Chinese especially should be like...
Oh, that is a sign.
That's a questionable joke.
They own the Lotus.
The Chinese own the Lotus and they're sitting here looking at this saying,
let's do a four-speed auto.
Anyway, I think it's a shame.
Amira is a great car.
Obviously, the Amiras that are built with the manual and all that
are going to be the ones that everybody wants.
The four-speed auto Amiras are going to go down like the four-speed auto XJS's.
Nice.
Poorly.
Poorly.
Well, if you thought the Amira market was strong, hold my beer.
It's going to remain that way for a while.
That's true and the Amira market is strong.
We sell them all the time on the cars in the biz.
With one or two weeks, yeah.
Those are going to be 90 grand forever.
Forever.
Like, Evora's still are 60.
Yeah.
It's pretty remarkable.
Look at these sales.
83, 89, 89, 93.
85 and 95,000.
The only one that hasn't sold in forever was an automatic.
Yeah.
Truly.
You have to keep going down.
I don't remember where it was, but it did happen.
And it was that four-cylinder auto.
Four-cylinder auto.
Despite the fact that the four-cylinder auto has exactly the same horsepower
as the Supercharged V6.
Somehow.
With both 400 horsepower.
Click on this one.
Look at that.
I'm telling you.
It looks like the car's been in a front-end collision.
And then the hood is wedged up a little because you're wedged under a truck or something.
Actually, that's a good angle.
That does kind of make it look good.
I love this car.
I love this car.
Well, I see them.
Well, I'm buying that.
I don't hate this powertrain either.
I think you just buy it whenever.
I think they're just going to make it the same.
Forever.
The point of this is I don't think they're going to depreciate like we thought the Elise has.
That got to a $35,000 car.
Although, did you see the Elise we sold today?
Pull this up.
Here's a news story for you.
Yeah.
We sold this Elise SC, which was 166 of 166 of these American for $65,590.
They're taken back up.
The nice Elise's are.
Mileage is a little low, et cetera.
And it's an SC, obviously, but like, damn.
You can still get into an Elise, right?
Between $35,000 and $45,000.
Yeah, you still can.
All day long.
Yeah.
But part of the reason they're so desirable is because they are Toyota-powered and manual
transmission, lovely things.
Move on to our next news story, please.
Ah, yes.
The Audi Q9.
We've been talking about how Audi is going to build a full-size SUV.
This is it.
It hasn't been fully revealed, but the interior has.
And apparently, the interior is the most luxurious Audi interior ever.
Wow.
Who said that?
An objective journalist?
Every journalist that saw the car.
You can take from that whatever you'd like.
This thing does look boss.
It does look good.
They should offer that.
Mercedes-Benz Maibach would offer that paint color.
And on the interior.
And on the interior.
They call it Hurricane or Twister or something like that.
And I'm glad for Audi that this is coming because, well, the Q7's been around.
Q7 is ancient.
Q7 is absolutely ancient.
And it's unbelievable to me.
It's came out in 17?
17.
17.
The current body Q7.
It may have been 2016, but I think it was 2017 Mali-er.
You know, it's amazing to me because that segment is still pretty hot.
That whole segment, full-size.
And GLS is came out in 20.
I know.
Q7 came out in 17.
X7 came out in 21 maybe.
Yeah, it was a 23.
It's the newest car.
And it's six years old.
Six model years old.
And the best thing that happened to any of them is that Justin Timberlake got arrested for a DUI in the X7.
The facelift X7.
He knew what to do.
He went and got the new one.
The Q9 though.
He'll be at a Q9 next summer.
See you in Sagaponic.
We'll be important for Audi certainly.
And so it's glad it's coming to fruition.
The interior, by the way, has a bunch of screens.
Doesn't have black, like the piano black plastic anymore.
It looks like every other...
Well, Audi's have been kind of killing interior since...
Totally.
They kind of went down for a little bit.
The B6 generation.
They got a little iffy for a bit.
Do we have a release date on this vehicle?
It's going to be revealed in full on July 28th.
Okay, so it'll probably go on sale this fall.
Yeah, yeah.
I assume so because this looks production.
This is real.
Yeah.
Heavy tariffs.
By the way.
We're going to pay $157.
A few weeks ago we did not talk about this,
but there's also a redesigned Volkswagen Atlas.
And that's all we're going to say about that.
The...
Presumably this will also spawn a Porsche variant.
Yep.
There will be a full-size Porsche SUV.
A Lamborghini variant.
The...
The Urus Plus.
No, probably not.
But there will be a Porsche based on this note.
There will absolutely be a Porsche.
Yeah.
And that's great.
Maybe it looks cool.
Maybe it'll be a new Q7 eventually.
Who knows?
I'm ready.
Or a Q8.
Who knows?
I'm ready and excited.
Ready to see them around successful suburban areas.
I do think it's wild that there hasn't been a new Q7 in however long.
And that the Q5 when you brake, it says Quattro.
I was behind on the other day.
You didn't watch my Q5 review?
No, incredibly I did.
The whole thing, the third brake light, when you stop...
There's Quattro.
Go to Q...
Audi Q5 Quattro brake light.
Type that in.
How do you know...
This is like the quirkiest thing that's ever happened.
No.
Q6 doesn't do that.
It's a normal car.
But the Q5 is a more normal car.
Quattro brake light is one of the things.
When you brake...
Oh yeah.
It says Quattro.
It literally reflects down onto the rear glass.
I do love that.
You haven't been behind a new Q5?
Apparently not.
When you get behind a new Q5, watch this.
It says a lot about it.
It's very clear what happens.
It says Quattro.
It's this whole big thing.
I love that.
It reflects from up here down backwards, reflects onto the rear glass so that people behind
you see that it's...
I have a true love of cars that have full width third brake lights.
And so does this count because it's not technically, you know, it's a projection?
Well, the brake light is also that.
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Next new story, please.
This is a good one.
The Chrysler Pronto.
All right.
So years and ago, there was a concept car that was called the Pronto.
I think that this is the Chrysler Pronto cruiser.
I think you're right.
And that the Chrysler Pronto was actually a had a front bar.
It was a it convertible Pronto Pronto.
That's what it was.
Okay.
So there was the Plymouth Pronto spider and it was like a mid engine two seat roadster.
This yeah.
Oh, they had done that.
It would have turned the whole company around.
That looks like a Saturn sky.
Well, there's some spiker in there.
It looks like a Vaxall VX2 20, which they did do.
And you know what?
It didn't change.
It didn't turn general orders around.
Yeah.
It doesn't look that.
Okay.
But regardless, this was a concept in the 2000s or late 90s.
They there was news this week that it last fall Chrysler showed their deep budget dealers
that they have a very low price around $20,000 MSRP concept that they're calling the Pronto.
And there's a concept for Chrysler.
There's also a concept at that price point for the Jeep and the Ram brands.
And so clearly, Stalantas is going deep on, Hey, should we be bringing a $20,000 really
affordable car to market?
Now back in the day, this was a sports car, but my presumption, although it has not no
more details have come out that I've seen, is that it's probably a compact car.
A compact car, really small SUV.
They have one that's shared with Jeep and Ram.
Now, with that in mind, do you remember the Dodge Dart?
Do I remember that?
What an insulting question.
How did that all go?
You know, except for the engine that had a lot of blow up issues and the transmission
that also blew up and a bunch of other liabilities.
That car only went out of production like yesterday and you haven't seen it in 10 years.
There was a version with a 2.4 liter turbo and a 16 manual, and that was a cool car.
It was cool.
It was.
I drove one of those from Atlanta.
I drove one of those from Atlanta, Charleston, South Carolina and back 13 hours in a Dodge
Dart.
It's a pretty good car.
Wow.
That's all you need.
It's a pretty good small car.
It was incredibly poorly built.
When I hear a $20,000 car from Chrysler, I remember the Neons.
I remember the Dart.
The Neons were reliable.
You've seen one?
Where is one?
They were all used.
Where is one?
They built Neons.
They were all built in 2010.
That was the last time you saw a Cavalier.
I see Corollas from that era, 20 million.
That's not what I asked.
I was very specific at my question.
You get my point.
Yeah.
Obviously, that's the caliber you see around.
I was just in Indiana.
I saw a lot of caliber.
You know, it is interesting.
You see calibers and you see patriots from that gen.
You do.
You see patriots.
Those cars were reviled when they came out, but they've actually ended up being pretty
reliable.
You know, I got to hand it to Stellantis.
I actually, I want to take back some bad things I've said.
We got a Julia in the office here.
Let me write the camera.
It's going to be short.
We got a Julia in the office here.
It's got 100,000 miles on it.
When that car came out, you and me went to outside D.C. and filmed the video on it.
10 years ago.
We sure did.
And at the time, the complaint about the Julia was that it was going to be trash because
it was built by Chrysler and Alpha.
And oh my God, this thing in the office, the interior has held that better than any car
with 100,000 miles that I've been in.
It's like perfect.
Have you been in it?
Yeah.
There's no where.
I challenge you to find where in that interior challenge me to find where.
I'm sure I can't accept for the driver's seat, which honestly looks like a normal worn
driver's seat and a 30,000 mile car.
I'll have a look.
The rest of the interior, there is no fading on the buttons.
There is no.
It's unbelievable.
I do know what you mean.
And it is a big surprise.
I now take back all the bad things I've said about Stalantis because of the caliber discussion
and because of the Julia.
They do build cars that last Stalantis forever.
You know, Lotus should think about a Stalantis powertrain in the mirror.
Can we talk about the fact that Jeep, can we talk about the what power, the, the, the
penistar hurricane straight six, baby.
They want to want a 270 horsepower penistar in their mirror.
Don't they currently have that?
It's like a 3.5 liter v6 supercharged.
Yeah.
Supercharged a penistar.
Hurricane, hurricane, hurricane, straight six, it's like 400 horse, hurricane, little
stretch.
The rare engine that's shared between a Ram, HRO and a mirror, HRO.
It's all right.
There's like two of them on the road.
So you're forgiven for the mistake.
That's what I meant.
Regar, I want to talk about the Patriot because you read it up.
The Patriot is dead.
It's been dead for forever.
Yeah.
But the compass lived on.
Yeah.
And Lotus should think that was a mistake.
The Patriot was a boxy one.
I remember.
The compass was the slopey one.
And they kept the slopey one.
I think that the...
The arrow of box.
In this era, I think the Patriot name would probably be better.
And it's boxier.
The compass had a better reputation.
It was the nicer of the two.
It was more expensive and more upmarket.
Boy, did I not think that was high.
It was.
The Patriot was the cheaper one.
The compass was the nicer one.
They're both trash-obvious.
That's pretty faithful.
But...
Regardless, the Pronto...
The caliber died, though.
The caliber died.
Thank God.
It was tough.
It was not a guitar.
Reliable enough.
If you want to see...
People that you know back in Ohio who had Calibur's Patriots are compasses.
Zero.
That can't be true.
I didn't get it.
No.
I didn't know it.
One of your neighbors had one.
No.
No, genuinely.
Because everybody...
I grew up in the era of the Odyssey and the Sienna.
Yeah, but Calibur's were around.
He grew up in the wealthy town.
I saw them.
In 2009, I probably saw them.
He was rich back in my town.
We were lucky if we could stretch to afford a caliber, I tell you.
Times were tough.
Yep.
Agreed.
The Pronto, though, will be some kind of probably sub-compact SUV if it happens, if dealers
were pushing for a sub-20K car.
I don't know if they were or not.
Margin would probably be really thin, and so there's a bit of a trade-off.
Get people in the door.
But if Jeep offer the 20K option, can they sell a Grand Highlander?
Who knows.
Regardless, maybe it will happen.
Maybe it won't.
What do you mean if Jeep offers a 20K car, can they sell a Grand Highlander?
They're trying to sell $100,000, sorry.
Grand Wagoneer is what I meant.
Sorry.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It would be like a wide...
I'm going to spoil the surprise on that one.
Even without a 20,000 car.
Jeep hasn't been able to successfully sell Grand Wagoneer.
What are you talking about?
The 2027 model of your Grand Wagoneer, after 2026, didn't exist.
Oh, really?
It's great.
It took the year off.
Took the year off.
There will be an extended range EV Grand Wagoneer coming in.
With 728 miles of range.
Wow, that's insane.
Really?
Yeah, yeah.
Because it's a normal fuel tank plus a battery.
All right.
I'm pro Grand Wagoneer.
This is another example of why I think Stalantis is off the hook.
They make great reliable cars that can go long distances.
Okay.
Credit to Stalantis.
A couple of fun facts.
First of all, they were the first and for a while the only people to have a plug-in
hybrid like SUV that wasn't like a German luxury car.
The only people that have a plug-in hybrid.
The Wrangler 4xE, the Grand Cherokee 4xE.
These were like real interesting, advanced plug-in hybrid vehicles.
Isn't there like a Kia Sorento when all that?
Oh, wait.
Off-road.
The Mitsubishi Outland.
Off-roaders is really what I meant.
The Mitsubishi Outland.
Off-roaders is what I meant.
Off-roaders is what I meant.
Off-roaders is what I meant.
I want you to make an issue an apology to Mitsubishi.
I'm pretty sure that they sold more Wrangler 4xE than Mitsubishi sold in the US for years
ever.
But also, they had cars like the Grand Wagoneer S which is the single fastest SUV under $100,000.
Now it was technically the Wagoneer S.
What did I say?
You said Grand Wagoneer S, which I think some of the issues today.
They have problems.
I'm having problems today.
I can't make a mistake.
Grand Wagoneer, Grand Cherokee, Cherokee, Grand Cherokee, Grand Renegade.
Nobody knows.
Grand Renegade.
This is the Grand Renegade right here.
Why don't they have one?
Move on to the next.
Just try it please.
The Grand Renegade is the Wrangler.
Thank goodness.
Moving on from slantist to something exotic.
This is the Lamborghini Fenomeno.
You're familiar with this car last year?
No.
It came out with a coupe version of this car.
No.
Sorry.
Go back to sleep.
You might remember this.
This is the limited edition Lamborghini based on the Veruelto.
It has that same hybrid V12 power plant.
This makes 1065 horsepower.
That car came out last year.
We saw that car at Pebble Beach.
Now they've announced they have a convertible version of it.
The coupe, they only built 29 examples of them.
They're going to build 15 of these.
I was there when they announced it.
What?
Yes.
You were.
We were there.
We were there.
We were there.
Yes.
At the quail.
At the quail.
You were not there.
We were all three there.
No, he wasn't there.
Is it Fenomeno?
I mean, it's Lamborghini.
So they do Spanish wins.
So I don't know.
Oh, so you don't know.
Oh, it's right.
How would you say it in Italian?
Fenomeno.
Fenomeno.
This is cool.
It's cool.
The things with the Roadster version of it, they tried to kind of hide some of the arrows
so they could maintain the same level of downforce.
So we're very careful about the rear treatment of the car.
Is this the Roadster?
This, for some reason, I produced this show.
I believe the coupe.
I was going to say.
I explicitly asked also for a picture of the window, which doesn't exist, but the window
is weird because it goes like this, but it goes down.
It's like this weird shape.
Yes, look at this window.
I love that.
Ridiculous.
So, I don't know.
It's like the Spiker C8 kind of.
No, that had a metal bar in the middle.
But there was window on top that had no frame.
That's true.
It didn't make a curve, but it's sort of like that.
The CLK GT-R is also like that.
I'll bet, though, when you close this, unlike the Spiker, when you close the door, it goes
boom.
I know no one has ever closed the door on a Spiker C8, but that's exactly what it does.
I want to talk to you about something.
Sure.
Lamborghini-wise.
But none, I mean, none of these are, like I said, limited edition cars.
Ravueltos are collapsing in the used market.
Are they?
Are they really?
So this might be the one that actually.
In the used market, the SF-90 Ravueltos price point just has not.
It's not been a place where the automakers are finding stability.
The 12-cylindries are also selling under Sticker, even though the car has been out for like
an afternoon.
It came out less than a year ago in the States.
That is interesting.
I do have to say with the Ravueltos, they've produced a lot of them and have gotten them
to customers very quickly, so certainly supply is not low.
Yeah.
Well, that's the problem.
But 700 Gs, there's apparently not support.
The Ravueltos done better than SF-90s so far, but they're.
More appealing product.
It is a more appealing product.
It's also put on the market for two years less, but.
Right.
That's true.
And so you wonder if we're going to see SF-90 type depreciation with the Ravueltos.
Aventador has held so strong.
They have and they made a gazillion of those.
So that is an interesting point.
If you combine.
All of the Bitzirini V12, is it all Bitzirini V12s or all Lamborghinis?
No, it's only.
The Bitzirini V12 power plants.
If you combine every Murakuntash Diablo and Mercy all together.
Probably in 350 Gt, I would imagine.
It's less than the production of Aventador.
That's pretty wild.
And when I think about it, how often do you see Aventadors?
Rare.
Yeah, I don't.
And even that is rare.
My wife sent me a picture 12 days ago on the 163.
Wow.
The 163 here in town?
Yep.
In the city?
Yep.
Or up there?
Down here.
By the zoo?
Yeah.
Oh, it's going to scare the animal.
It's not a question in town.
But yeah, that's a nonetheless like, I don't know, cool limited edition.
That looks really cool.
I think it's probably 5000000 and silly, but like, I think it looks cool.
Right.
I don't disagree.
But on the topic of new cars, there's another one.
So Villadeste is upon us.
I know.
I'm excited.
I know.
Why aren't we all there right now?
Imagine me at Lake Como.
I went two years ago and it was an amazing experience.
It's probably, I don't know, it's one of the best car events of the year for that question.
But at this event, a lot of new cars are announced and BMW Alpina will be announcing their new
cloud.
Now, Alpina has been involved with BMW for a long time, but now it's officially under
the BMW umbrella.
Well, this will be the first car that comes out as a result of that and they've teased
this silhouette of it, which is very long and swoopy looking and it kind of looks like
the eight series to me.
Do you think it's going to be like a four door AMG GT situation?
You don't think this is a four door car?
I think it's got to be a four door because you could, you could see where the door would
be and this would be a hatchback and like, I would imagine that's like an eight series
Grand Coupe.
Like that's kind of what I think it's going to be.
Do you remember the bovin seepin?
Is no.
Pull it up.
You want to help me get some spelling there?
Yeah, yeah.
It just spelled just like it sounds.
Bov.
Bov.
There it is.
Yeah.
Hey, that was pretty close.
This was an Alpina thing.
Wasn't it?
Oh, I do remember.
I think it looks amazing.
It was based on the M4.
I guess it's a Zagato thing.
I guess it's not really.
No, no, no, no.
It is because it's a family behind Alpina.
This is a Prist.
That has sold Alpina to BMW, but they made a standalone project based on the M4 with
Zagato.
I think it looks cool as hell.
I know.
A Prist at Zagato can actually make a good-looking car.
Excuse me.
Zagato has made hundreds of good-looking cars.
When you start to look into it, no, they have.
There are a lot of really hein Zagatos.
Okay.
What about the, what about, oh, the vanquish shooting break?
That is a good one.
I will counter it.
The Ferrari 550 GT Z by Zagato, which is one of the ugliest vehicles that have ever seen.
The overhangs are, wait, look at the side profile.
You ever see the 599 version?
599 GT Z?
No.
There is one?
Yes.
It's just as bad.
599.
Oh my God.
That's the life.
Those are the Alonzo edition wheels.
I think that's to say that's a $4 million car.
Oh, Kennan, but you know what was a good-looking car?
TZ3.
TZ3, the one that was based on the Viper.
Yeah, that was.
That was a good-looking car in person.
Oh, and how about the DB Aster, the DB Road?
The DB Air 1?
No, it was the coupe.
Wasn't it the DB7 Zagato?
I think it was just DB7 Zagato.
That was a beautiful car.
So take that.
I don't think the rear of that car is challenging to me.
I don't think that's a-
I think it looks great.
I don't think that looks good.
That's a beautiful car.
At that era, that was a beautiful car.
No, you know what was beautiful?
The normal one and the vanquish.
The normal DB7 was beautiful?
I'd like the DB7.
It was fine.
The front of this is just not good.
Beautiful iteration.
That gave us the vanquish.
That front end, this here is blobby.
Anyway.
I can't believe we're not talking about this.
Moving on from Seelon Sport also.
But Alpina, which is not related to Zagato.
Anyway, glad that we had that tangent, is rolling this out very soon on Friday.
We'll see what it looks like.
Of course, this video will be in this podcast.
You'll know already.
You'll know.
We do not-
By the time you're watching this, you'll see these idiots.
You might be in Vildesta already staring at the thing.
All right.
Are there other news stories?
Surely not.
Oh, yes.
The Fast and the Furious.
Last news story.
So there's news this week that there will be a Fast and the Furious TV show.
At least one.
At least one.
Vin Diesel is the executive producer of it.
He has said there will be four.
Nobody else has confirmed four.
Nobody else has confirmed there will be one.
But nevertheless, there will be some emerging one and four spin-offs that he's involved in.
This week to New Yorker, last week to New Yorker has a long-form article about the cultural
impact that the Fast and the Furious has had on Hollywood specifically.
But apparently there are actually books, one of which I bought but haven't read yet, about
the impact of the Fast and the Furious.
Massive.
Which, by the way, came out 25 years ago in about three weeks.
Really?
We should remember to talk about it.
June of 2001.
And one of the things that the New York article says was that the original title was going
to be Race Force.
Oh, man.
Because, you know, that was the thing in the desert that they were going to.
They were going to call it Race Wars.
The article also said that Universal has made, it's $7 billion, the movies have grossed.
Wow.
Surprise is not higher.
$7 billion.
And it's Universal's longest-running franchise ever.
Also, by the way, if you're curious.
Fast and Furious, folks, more than you can afford, pal.
If you're curious, you should look up why the naming structure is what it is.
It has to do with the rights that they had to use the Fast and the Furious as the name.
They could have reused it in that same way.
You know, I thought the whole thing was going to die after the third movie because the third
movie, all the main actors were gone.
And it looked like that was going to be the end.
But then they found a way.
They found a way.
It's like, it's a safe movie.
It comes back together.
It's like, I'm trying to start the Countach, you know?
And it's like...
And you're like, oh, is it going to happen?
You're pushing the gas.
And then it goes...
And it's about done.
And then it's...
And then it comes right back.
I hate to tell you.
Don't do that for me.
It starts every time.
Have you seen the third movie?
Yeah.
I've seen the first three.
And other than that, my seeing of the...
The fifth one is the best one.
I think the best one.
I've only ever seen the first one.
The first one is the greatest car movie of all time.
First one's a great car movie.
The fifth one, they drag us safe through the seats of religion era.
The first one is the greatest...
The first one is the greatest...
They're Volkswagen Twarr eggs.
The first one is the greatest car movie of all time.
It just is.
They're Volkswagen Twarr eggs.
The first one, folks, tell them.
In the comments, tell them.
I know there's a lot of great car movies,
but when you think about cultural impact,
and when you think about staying power,
and when you think about all those lines,
danger to manifold,
more than you can afford pal overnight parts from Japan,
all that stuff,
fast one is probably the most impactful car movie of all time.
But if you want to learn more about it,
there's a key channel video all about it.
This discussion brought to you by Filippo.
Summer is here,
which means I've got my annual cross-country road trip coming up.
And before I take off on any trip,
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You might have a trip coming up too,
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Okay, I want to move on to the talk car segment.
The talk car segment is brought to you by the new Lexus ES,
which I recently drove for a video.
You know what, you made a great point in our friend group.
You talked about this.
Why don't you have a Lexus ES?
I've never wanted a Lexus ES.
I don't buy sedans.
He's not...
I don't buy sedans.
Give him time.
I've owned one sedan.
It was a Kia Spectra 2003.
You don't understand.
The new Lexus ES is higher, like the crown,
so it gives an S...
No, in fact, incredibly, I do understand.
I actually, Filippo, I actually have a...
I actually have something for you about the Lexus ES
that I think that you will appreciate hearing.
This is directly from Lexus.
In a market overtaken by SUVs,
the ES meets the desires of guests
who are looking for something different
yet enjoy the spaciousness of an SUV.
And I want to make two points here.
First off, they call their customers guests.
I love that.
You call us the team members.
Team members?
I love guests.
I love guests a lot.
But I want our team members to feel more at home
and our community to feel more at home.
They're part of it.
They're not just guests.
They're not guests.
That's true.
The people who buy the cars,
if you're watching the video right now,
you're a guest.
How about that?
Well, move on.
It's not our audience.
They are our guests.
No, I don't like that.
And number two...
There are family, Doug.
Number two, you need to understand.
In a market overtaken by SUVs,
it meets the desires of guests
who want the spaciousness of an SUV.
Does it?
This is you.
I can't talk about it.
It's under a bar.
You're under a bar.
I can't talk about it.
But what I can talk about...
Is the Lexus TZ,
which is their new three-row EV SUV.
They did have that there.
That's not what I want to talk about either.
Believe it or not.
Can we please talk about
the actual things people care about?
No.
We're going to talk about something
that nobody cares about.
And it's called the Lexus LBX.
Have you ever heard of this car?
I have.
He's never heard of it.
Pull it up.
I looked it up when you put it in the dock.
The Lexus LBX is a Lexus car
that is not sold in the United States.
What a shame.
And it's a little luxury crossover.
And you're sitting here thinking,
I don't care about this.
I don't want anything to do with this.
It doesn't matter to me.
It's amazing.
You read my mind.
But it does.
Because there is a Corolla Cross.
There is, Kenan Perkup,
a Morizo edition of this.
Is it really?
With 300 horsepower,
all-wheel-drive manual transmission.
It's called the RR.
You are joking.
I'm dead serious.
What?
There is...
For one market?
For one consumer?
Do you believe this?
So this BS little car,
which is not Corolla Cross-based.
There is a 300-horse turbo three-cylinder
Morizo edition.
What?
To be honest, it looks pretty good.
It looks pretty good.
What?
With a manual transmission.
That's...
Bring that.
Here.
That is very cool.
That's pretty cool.
So the LBX is based on a Corolla.
Yeah.
Not a Corolla Cross,
like a GR Corolla.
It has to be honest.
Well, I think it's based on like the Yaris.
I think that motor is from the GR Yaris.
The motor is from the GR Corolla.
But...
Huh.
The GR Corolla.
I guess it's the same powertrain.
Those are the only three cars that use it.
Wow.
Think about that.
It's sold to Australia and Japan.
Globally, they sold it.
Globally.
And it's like globally, I'm on the globe.
If you spin a globe,
it's going to come to the Americas.
It shares the platform on the Yaris Cross.
There is a car out there.
A Lexus Sport Utility Vehicle.
The same company known for making vehicles
that put you to sleep.
That is a 300-horsepower manual transmission,
four-wheel drive, little hot hatch.
That is a small...
If it's based on the Yaris Cross,
that's so small it's not sold in the U.S. market.
Folks, the best hot hatch on the market today
is being made by Lexus.
Pull up an interior for her.
Let's see if it's any good.
I haven't done any research on this car.
This is incredible.
I have to say, if Lexus F is continued,
they want to elevate their brand
in terms of sportiness and all this.
They don't.
Well, they're claiming to by going racing and things.
If they bring this here.
A 16-manual, a first for Lexus.
That's incredible.
That's amazing.
I feel this car would do pretty well here
if they brought it here.
It's so small.
And also the entire Yaris platform is not.
I don't think it would do well,
but I'm sure they're cautiously awaiting
the sales results for the Acura ADX
to decide whether or not to bring it,
which is bigger.
Not much, if it's that size.
That is cool.
Yaris small.
Folks, you're missing out on this.
Right to your local Lexus dealership.
Does Lexus have a presence in Australia
outside of the LBS?
Lexus is a global brand, though.
They told me that ES is sold globally.
Europe, Asia, China.
I'm like, really?
Available globally.
It's sold globally.
Or two different savings.
That's sad, Fully,
but how can you say that about the poor Lexus?
What a great find.
How did you discover this?
Because I was looking to see,
I wanted to see how many sedans
Lexus had at one point had
and how many they've had down to now.
Five, by the way.
At one point they had five.
Now they have two.
They have two.
And the IS, who knows if that gets redesigned.
And then I was on the model line
and then I see this thing
and I'm like, what the hell?
This is incredible.
So I click on it thinking it's going to be boring,
which obviously most of them are,
and I discover this.
This is incredible.
And by the way, it stands for,
LBX stands for Lexus Breakthrough Crossover.
I do remember the game we did
for the Cars and Beds channel
where we had to figure out
what they were all after.
So I appreciate you mentioning that.
Lexus Breakthrough Crossover.
Anyway, Kennan, what do you got for us?
Ah, yes.
So I have a video out on my channel.
I did something.
You did something?
To my M5.
That's rarely happened.
Are you going to show this?
Yes.
This is terrible.
I would conceal it and pretend it never happened.
I tell the truth to people.
Nick Roshan would conceal it
and tell people it never happened
and then sell the car.
Yep.
Well, I'm never selling the car.
So this happens to my M5.
Can you even hit a small animal?
That's not true.
There are no small animals in San Diego.
There are no animals on the road in San Diego.
I hit a moose.
I hit a moose, yeah.
No, like the A-Class.
Anyway, so I pulled slightly over
a cement parking barrier
and it had two metal barbs sticking up.
I did not see that.
I also didn't hear it.
I have dash cam footage of this
and I backed up and just went...
Oh, how tragic.
My God.
And you can see me,
because of the dash cam is right there,
I get out of the car
and you can see me go like this, looking at it.
And it did quite a bit of damage,
which I'm going to...
Luckily none of it's serious,
all of it cosmetic,
but all of it very expensive.
The bumper, the belly pan.
You remember how I replaced those fender layers?
I was so proud of the big deal.
Yeah.
I had to do it again.
Why?
Because I snapped it.
This snapped the brake duct.
It snapped all of this stuff underneath.
I thought you just replaced the bumper.
No, I had to replace a lot
because it broke a lot of things.
This like got stuck and ripped all in one spot
and they're all attached there
and it ripped all of them.
But you were driving it around after it happened.
Yeah, because I removed all of that stuff.
Like I put...
Right there, I took off the belly pan.
I took off the bumper.
You know, a lot of folks say,
and I'm not one of them,
Filippo, I bet.
Yeah.
A lot of folks say,
if you remove that stuff
and then you drove around with it gone,
maybe you didn't need it in the first place.
You need it.
So I...
So I say that?
Let's take it out.
Nobody says that.
So yes, it was tough.
I did have to drive around with the car a little bit.
Nothing mechanical happened.
Luckily it didn't hurt the belly pan
or the oil pan rather for the car.
But nonetheless, it was really difficult.
But now I do have a new bumper,
new fresh paint on the front of it.
It looks lovely.
You know, I want to give some real advice to people
for whom this happens.
If you've driven over a parking curb
and you realize you drove over a parking curb,
the only thing to do in order to prevent this from happening
is to keep driving straight.
Go over the parking curb with the whole car
instead of backing up.
No, the only thing you can't...
I mean, because people say,
oh, you could pump up your tires and stuff.
It's like, this would not have been enough clearance
to deal with this.
Quick checks.
Yes, let me just grab those out of my trunk
because I carry those around.
That doesn't happen.
There was really like...
Also, I didn't know I had done it.
But if you do know,
do you agree you would have just kept going straight?
No.
It's a low car.
Of course not.
A rage statement.
When I could have done a work...
The car's the front's the lowest part.
I could have maybe found some wood
and put it on there and backed up
and that would have lifted the car.
Yeah, that would have been smart.
Maybe.
I like that.
But I was in downtown San Diego at my gym
where I'm going to go find some...
By the way, excellent parking quick checks.
Like it's like separated on both sides.
Well, that was the bad...
Well, that was one of the bad parts.
I pulled in the spot where I was thrilled
because I was blocked by a wall on the side.
It's the dream.
It is.
It's car enthusiasm.
Nobody condorred me.
Instead, I ripped its face off.
So it's like...
I can't win.
I should say it is back to looking great.
Yeah, the car looks amazing now.
I'm super happy with it.
But it was very expensive.
I go into all this in the video.
It was 15 seconds.
They cost me thousands of dollars.
How many thousands?
Almost four.
Damn.
But there was something I wanted to learn.
There was something I did want to point out too
because I worry about parts of this car
not being available.
Bumpers.
They did a whole set of bumpers in 2024.
There are thousands of them.
That's good.
So you can still get bumpers for this car,
which is nice.
I'm glad to hear it.
Other parts you can't.
But nonetheless, it was like...
Bumpers are important.
My point I want to make with this is
even as careful as I am,
things do happen to cars if you use them.
I've driven the thing almost 100,000 miles now.
And so, you know, stuff happens
and it's a car ultimate.
I repaired it and we move on with it.
But it was...
You want to talk about exposure therapy.
You remember how I was all upset
about the little scuff I had on the front bumper there?
It fixed.
This was much worse.
Yeah, but now it's gone.
So in a way, this is actually detrimental to you
because you got that fixed.
Yeah, but I had to live with no face
on the front of the car for a while.
That was worse.
It didn't have a face.
It'd be like if I took Filippo's jaw and just...
That's right.
Yeah.
So I was...
This was hard, but, you know,
it also was making me start to think about...
Selling the car.
No, about getting a daily.
Oh, my God.
About getting a daily and tucking this away.
Because it's like...
We're selling the car.
This just wasn't...
No, I did think about a couple of days ago.
I think maybe you should sell the car.
Were you really thinking that?
Yeah.
No, I'm not selling the car.
I'll get into it with you later.
Off camera.
Yeah, it's not going to happen.
You've tried.
There's no point.
Don't waste your breath.
Filippo, you want to talk about the...
You went to an event.
Yeah.
We at Cars and Beds were at a Cars and Coffee that we put on
alongside Tyraq and Walnut of America,
and the American Brandtium Association.
And I was there alongside a couple of folks from our team.
And it was very nice.
I talked to like hundreds of people from the South Bend area
that came down from like hours and hours away.
Hours and hours away, and they were all from the South Bend area.
Yeah.
Point taken.
It's a big metro.
It's a big metro.
It's a nice port.
It's Fort Worth.
It's Fort Worth.
We're doing concentric stuff.
I really appreciated talking to everybody there.
It was very nice.
There's some gifts that I need to give you one of.
Oh, that's wonderful.
From one of our viewers.
Somebody give a little pin for Ryan.
He have no AC, Ryan.
Ryan Lopez got something?
Yeah.
But it was very nice to kind of connect with so many people
and see you all.
What was the most interesting car there?
Anybody bringing LBX?
No, sadly.
But somebody did pull up in a Saturn Ion red line with his dad.
And his dad was like one of the chief engine engineers behind
the LS series of engines at GM.
And a bunch of other kind of GM engines that we know.
Oh, man.
He's a goddamn hero.
He pulled up in a four cylinder Saturn.
I'm still looking for an Ion red line to review.
Are you?
Oh, yeah.
Are you kidding?
Those cars are incredible.
The Ion SC just are cool cars.
Or a first year with the two tone upper and lower.
You know what the first years?
They have these removable body panes.
It's a whole thing.
I don't remember that.
No.
And four spoke wheels.
The Ion was cool when it first came out.
And they kind of like decontented it.
All Saturns were kind of great for a bit.
I love the series Saturn.
It was a short bit.
Unfortunately, we don't know that because I have a Saturn video.
I'm not releasing.
I don't want anybody to know what's in those files.
Can I talk about another event though?
Yes.
But for two seconds.
All right.
We have an event coming up at Velocity Invitational.
We have an incredible lineup of cars that will be there in person
and then ending on May 30th.
There's a link in the bio here if you're watching on YouTube.
Go to the page where we have all the auctions that are live.
By the time this podcast goes out, there will be 18,
if not a little more, auctions live with some truly special cars.
The cars we have at this are unbelievable.
How did you find these cars?
Did you do anything?
But mostly not.
No, I don't know these cars.
But we have a 430 Skud.
You should see.
Well, we have a Julia 2Z1.
Can I talk about?
I see the cars.
You may.
Well, yes, because one of the cars I am representing myself personally is there.
This Lamborghini Huracan Performante.
So this car is going to be there.
Will it be there?
Filippo will be there.
You did this one?
I am personally doing this one.
Yes, I did a video on this car and I'm representing it for the owner
and it will be there, which I'm very excited about.
Kenner went out to North Alabama.
Yeah, I did.
The other day I looked at Kenner's location.
She was in Florence, Alabama.
I was like, what in God's name is Kenner doing there?
This is what I was doing.
He was with this Performante.
Well, the owner of this car, I'm going to be helping him with several of his cars.
So he has this, a Guarda Superlegger, a Guarda LP550-2 Spyder, and he has an STO,
a really nice STO.
So you've got a bunch of Lambos.
And he's in Florence, Alabama, which, if you're not familiar,
is truly go to the middle of nowhere, turn left, and go some more.
That's Florence, Alabama.
So you've got a bunch of Lambos.
Does he have a Mark IV Super Turbo?
He does not have a Mark IV Super Turbo.
Okay.
This is cool.
The cars we have are unreal.
There's a 991 Speedster with no miles and a narrow body 1989 Speedster.
Fun fact.
You have an 89 Speedster.
I don't know anything about that.
Of course, Filippo brings up Porsches.
I got it.
And also, there'll be an incredibly low mile.
Zero RS Cosworth.
There'll be an incredibly low mile R34 GTR VSpec.
Midnight Purple.
Midnight Purple.
It's a special, special car.
These will all be live when you're watching this, by the way.
So go check them out.
Go check them out.
These are the coolest cars we've ever auctioned our entire life as an auction website.
It's a pretty serious group of cars.
Across the 18 cars I was doing the math earlier,
it's something like four and a half million dollars in cars.
Oh, damn.
Filippo is south.
Filippo, the math man is salivating at the revenue opportunity for cars and bids.
Our fee is capped.
And so our effective take rate will be very, very low.
And ours and bids make money.
But the cars and bids.
That's exactly what I said.
Filippo does when he goes home, folks.
It is my literal job.
I want to move on to the market report.
Speaking of this stuff, I want to move on to the market report,
which of course is brought to you by cars and bids.
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Sean's looking at me.
No, Sean.
Don't go back down.
Put the headphones back on.
Cars and bids is the finest auction platform on the planet for anything.
No, cars or not.
It's even better than all the other stuff.
Yeah.
We've auctioned other stuff.
We have auctioned a couch once.
There's even cars and bids.
There's now even cars and friends,
which is a great podcast.
It should be called Cars and Buds, but we'll move on.
I did a video recently with Jason Camisa,
and it was quite something.
I have yet to watch it, but I'm told.
It's great.
There's some controversial ones coming.
There's better ones coming.
That one was good.
There's better ones coming.
We even did a video.
Jason and Doug share their controversial automotive opinions.
Oh, man.
Please tease one.
Okay.
One of mine is that Filippo shouldn't be allowed to drive.
No, I'm a pretty good driver.
I've never been in an accident.
I've never got an experience.
I agree with that.
Never injured a car.
Okay.
I want to move on to the market report.
Eventually.
The market report actually, of course, is brought to you by the Lexus LBX.
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Filippo, give us one market report,
and then Kenan's going to give us one,
and then we're going to move on to the questions.
Okay.
Let's talk about things that I like,
which is cheap, full-size SUVs.
Let's talk about it.
All right.
No, no, no.
Start with the Q7.
You know what?
I gave you this XQ70.
You owe me big.
Okay.
We sold this Q7 for $16,000.
The Q7 is still the same as this generation.
Has it changed?
Not on top.
Does it play?
It looks great.
It has a bunch of legitimately good performance mods,
or 34 motorsports, like a good Audi modifier.
Modific.
This is a $16,000 car.
And it looks beautiful.
It's like 90 something thousand.
So the XC90 was even more.
The XC90, we failed to sell.
Failed to sell.
Although it is in the right ballpark for value,
because I've looked at XC90s.
So I sent the XC90 to Filippo.
I sent it to two people.
Filippo and my buddy, Perry.
And I sent it to both of them.
Why not just send it to us?
I don't know.
I don't know.
But I sent it to both of them.
We're on one text.
I sent it individually.
I sent it to both of them.
And I said, I can't believe it's a $15,000 used car.
And they both said, yeah.
And it almost looks like a brand new one.
It does.
And I was thinking myself almost.
I'm like, no, they both said no one can tell it apart from a new one.
Most people can't tell it apart from a new one.
I said, most people, I can't tell it apart from them.
I have no clue.
There was a facelift.
If I saw my neighbor get one of these, I was like, damn,
they just got a new facelift.
There was a facelift in 25.
Which looks worse, actually.
It is incredible.
So this is a $15,000 car.
It does not look like it.
2023 had a bunch of upgrades to the plug-in hybrid.
But nevertheless, incredible.
You could buy this and look rich today.
You would look rich and you'd be safe.
No, the point of this is, like I was talking about,
is a daily to retire to the M5 as a daily.
It's like, there are a lot of things.
You can't drive an XT9.
No, obviously I can't.
But there are appealing options out there.
Go back to the Q7.
The Q7, though.
I want to look at it again.
I've been to Q7.
I just want to see the general old.
Incredibly.
Just that one was a beautiful color.
Look at these results.
These cars, $13,000 for a 17.
I know.
It's appealing.
Wow.
$14,800 for this.
These are brand new looking cars.
It is truly incredibly appealing.
It's the current design.
Yes.
It's incredibly appealing.
We have our station wagon, which I love
and will keep for a long time.
But my wife has always wanted either a V6 RAV4,
that was her dream car for years,
or an XC90.
XC90 it is.
It could be something that we make happen
for $15,000.
Well, you can get an early XC90 for like two.
First gen.
Pull up XC90.
She's a second gen fan.
Order by lowest price.
Let's see how cheap these got.
Oh, free.
Look at this.
That is to this day.
I'm going to go out on a limb.
Click on that one.
That is to this day, the greatest looking SUV of all time.
E53 X5.
Yeah.
I'd put the X5 in there as well.
This is the greatest looking SUV of all time.
I do love this.
Also the Yamaha V8.
Yamaha V8 straight pipette.
Although there was a few years when it wasn't the Yamaha V8.
All right.
Kenan, can you give us a market report, please?
Yes.
I noticed something interesting this past week.
So we sold a car that I'm not sure it's going to come up like that.
It's sold.
So yes, for that more.
Oh, wait.
We have a lot of Chevy's already.
A lot of cars.
Really did not realize that.
It turns out also.
Oh, yeah.
Wow.
Oh, my goodness.
This closed three years ago.
There's 12.
Yeah.
We saw.
Did you see the result here?
Just so people know if they are.
We have 275 cars live in any given moment now.
We're only 55 a day.
Back in the day.
Six years ago almost.
So this is a 1922 Chevy 490 Touring.
So this is a pre-work car.
This is a brass here, which is completely incorrect.
That ended in 1915.
But this car, sold for $4,720 American dollars.
Now, here's the thing.
This is like a canary in the coal mine to me.
When I think about like, you know, a lot of people talk about it.
It's like, oh, car's in the 1950s.
The generation that appreciates those is diminishing, we'll say.
And what's going to happen to those cars?
This.
This is what is going to happen.
Type in Chevelle.
Type in Chevelle.
Yeah.
I had a buddy, a neighbor of mine sell his Chevelle.
This car, 47 he sold it for.
And he had bought it years ago and bring the trailer.
And he modded it and made it nice.
It's a really nice car.
It looks nice.
And he sold it for about what he paid for.
He put a lot of money and sold about what he paid for.
I think he was disappointed.
But I've been, I've been watching over at the bring the trailer,
the old Porsches.
It ain't pretty.
The really old ones.
Modern stuff.
The 993 is the modern air cooled.
And this is a trend.
This is, this is so clearly happening.
Yep.
This car is definitely like a bit of a bellwether because it's really old for
a grand.
I mean, come on.
It is non running, but car probably is four moving parts.
Right.
Yeah.
Let's say you double the amount that's into it.
I mean, you know what I mean?
It's not.
Yeah.
But that should now old 9 11's long hoods, the kind of stuff Sean's
into the, this world, this world is changing.
I agree.
The 60 stuff, the 50 stuff, the 20 stuff.
Right.
Right.
I realized this is a bit of a stretch, but my point remains.
Like I think this is a signal cherry.
And as you see all of these cars, modern Ferraris and all of
these more modern cars from kind of our era become expensive.
Yep.
The changing of the guard is happening.
And like, you know, even David Lee's 250 GTO result, like
people said that was low.
It's like, I don't know.
I think that's kind of.
Correct.
And probably falling.
Yeah.
Exactly.
There will be a time when the 250 GTO was not the world's most expensive
car.
Granted, it's that Mercedes that sold for 150 million.
But that was like a one of one.
Like the 250 GTO as a theme, I suspect will eventually get replaced by
vehicles such as the career GT with the formula one powertrain, which it does
not have, of course, but nonetheless an interesting case study.
It is an interesting case study.
Well, since we're out of Porsches, can I say one thing about Porsche market?
Okay.
Here we go.
Look up.
What tidbit are you going to hit us with here?
We haven't heard before.
We've got to talk about Porsches.
He's just a Porsche guy.
God, you know, him getting a 911 is the worst thing that ever happened.
That's a 2020 911, 10,000 miles, Miami blue sticker on it was 137.
Yep.
So with old Porsches going down, new Porsches, apparently, even though automatic
Super 2s that are so replaceable are at MSRP six years later.
It's because it takes no effort to own one.
I think that's part of it.
But there's like aerobility.
Even for an enthusiast, you know, that's a good daily.
Great daily.
It's a great day.
At MSRP six years later, if you, I don't get it.
If you've got something special in the garage, you want to preserve like a Mark
4 Supra.
It's a good daily.
Yeah.
By the way, obviously good photos, no reserve, et cetera, but still in good color and low
miles because it's not like they made money on it.
I mean, they only drove, they only got 10,000 miles out of six years.
So there was a barely driven car and it's still dropped.
But your point is well taken.
It's still dropped at MSRP.
You know, a Highlander.
Right.
You wouldn't have lost more money on a Highlander.
Oh, the Porsches are so expensive.
Well, actually TCO, the Highlander is more expensive.
Somehow.
Yeah.
Okay.
Time for the questions.
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We want your good questions.
This week they were pretty good.
So we're going to answer a few of them.
Starting with one US.
It's like Lewis, but the one is an L. The L is a one.
Hey, Doug, curious on pre-production cars after I saw the EX-60 video.
Do they let you drive it, just not review it?
When you do drive them, are they really rough?
No.
Usually the pre-production cars, when I get them to review, are actually production
cars that they claim are pre-production cars.
They usually are made on the assembly line.
They usually are made with basically all the same tolerances and stuff.
But there might be a few little things that aren't quite working perfectly.
The main reason that we're not allowed to actually drive or driving review pre-production
cars is it's an embargo thing.
They don't want me to have an advantage over other people, whatever.
They don't want to kind of piecemeal give out cars to people.
So there's going to be an actual launch where they actually have people drive the cars all at once
so they can do a true embargo release of all the reviews.
I remember the Ford Bronco for you being an exception to that, right?
There have been a few that I've done, like the cars that were basically concept cars
that weren't actually running.
But stuff like the EX-60, I've done it with a bunch of other cars actually,
where they're pre-production, but like the ID buzz I did a long time ago was pre-production,
but like it was production.
But they want to tell you that it's pre-production to kind of couch any potential issues.
Then there might be some potential issues, but usually the cars are pretty much ready to go.
They just, you can't, if you're going to release a car, you can't release it to one person.
You have to wait until all the production ready cars and all the people are at the same place
and that's just the fair way to do it.
We're all about fairness here.
Next question from Ryan D79.
This is for us.
Dude, Doug, in general, you seem to prefer unmodified cars.
During the WS6 video, though, you mentioned how good the aftermarket shift knob was.
Yeah, but you should see how good the OE one is.
What was your favorite modification?
Are there any modifications that you thought you would like that you did like?
I'm not opposed to modifications.
Particularly in the case of reliability, that's a big one, or usability.
So for instance, like adding a Bluetooth module to a car or something that gives you the ability to stream your phone on the car.
Fantastic.
Makes the user experience much better.
More or less all of my cars are modified.
That car's not, but the other ones, I mean, we added an axle lift and a Bluetooth and heated seats to the Carrera GT.
The Countach got a built motor.
Hell yeah.
Hell yeah.
The Ford GT's got stuff.
I mean, they all, the short shifter and exhaust, they all have stuff.
I'm not opposed to modifications.
I just, some people, and I'm not going to, to name anybody.
I don't want to embarrass Ryan Lopez, but some people take it a little far.
Well, when you completely transform the experience of the car in a way that makes it objectively worse and harder to use because it bottoms out on a leaf.
Like it just is not like reasonable.
Like I just don't like that.
Like I want to use the car.
I drive.
So like, exactly.
You know, I'm not about that.
I think that the modifications I don't like are the ones that either drastically change the look from a car, this look I already liked,
or ones that change the driving experience to make it significantly worse.
Now there's arguments over what worse could be.
Ryan would argue that his drift car is better because of how he modified it,
which may be true, but he also can no longer drive the car.
Right.
I have not seen it leave this office.
But a long time.
It sits over there.
But he can drift the car.
He can drift the car.
Also never seen him do that.
Never seen him do that.
Seen him driving cars and coffee.
And it sits statically there.
So that's where the, yeah, especially the reliability thing, because there's nothing less cool than breaking down in a car.
Yeah.
So I'm not opposed to mods.
I just, I would, I have a limit.
My limit is probably shorter than what most people's limit is, but all my cars are modded in some capacity.
I just get it.
You put the big wheels on and then this and then that and blackout stuff.
And it starts to be like, I'm not really into those kind of mods.
That's what I would say.
Yeah, exactly.
And neither is the market that will then buy your car after that.
They agree.
With some exceptions, yeah.
Right.
Yeah.
Very far in between.
And part of the question is, has there ever been a mod that you thought you wouldn't like that you did like?
There are some wheels that I think are okay.
Other than that, yeah, some stuff.
I mean, short trips, nothing that I go in thinking I'm not going to like.
No, there, yeah, there are definitely some mods.
I saw an R53 mini, just a nice little red one with white OZ wheels on it.
And it looked so nice.
I was like, that's cool.
I'm here for that.
There's also a lot of like exhausts that do actually sound good or open up an engine or whatever.
Yes.
There are some that are approved.
Yeah.
Okay.
Next question from Rex7277.
Dear Doug, what happened to the bloopers at the end of the videos?
The question for Nick, our editor, not crazy, Nick, who I wouldn't trust to edit a tin can.
Can you imagine?
I did a tin can.
I don't disagree.
I don't know what that means, but.
I do wonder.
I wouldn't trust crazy Nick to edit a voice message that James Engelsman sent me from Toronto.
Anyway, what happened to the bloopers?
The answer is I became a professional.
I don't have any bloopers.
Yep.
Next question.
The editor Nick is nodding.
It's very rare.
I used to have more, but like I'm pretty good at this now.
And it's actually very unusual that I like mess up.
And when I do, I usually just start again.
There's not much laughter and stuff.
Sometimes it happens, but it's rare.
It's rare.
The TZ.
We got an alpha TZ coming.
That's live right there.
That's live right now.
There's a blooper in this week's video.
Take that, Mr. Rex 7277.
Next question from Daddy Doug 26.
We're speeding through these to Daddy Doug and friends.
Carmakers saw how iconic the lightweight three-seater sports cars like the F1 and T50 are.
Why don't other automakers make them now that they see how Gordon Murray was able to do it?
Gordon Murray was not able to do it.
It's important distinction.
The T50 is not legal in the U.S.
It's only here under shore display, which is a law created for very special, very limited production cars to come in and be driven by rich guys.
And there are airbag regulations that prevent three-seater seating arrangement in vehicles.
The McLaren Speedtail had the same problem.
It also is a three-seater, one in the center, two on the sides.
The side seats, even though there are probably airbags somewhere in front of them,
are not close enough to the airbag to comply with U.S. regulations.
So the Speedtail also was a car that had to be brought in a shore display.
You cannot, the question is actually how, now that they've seen Gordon Murray has been able to mass produce it,
why don't other automakers do it?
There's no mass production of this.
The only way that these cars are allowed to be sold in the U.S. is through their shore display,
which hinges on their low production.
There will be no other cars unless they could figure out a way to get an airbag in front of those middle passengers,
those side passengers, but that's basically impossible because of egress.
Like, you'd have to put an airbag essentially where the door opening is to get to climbing inside.
I don't think it's possible.
Anything, Dan?
You wish they had them.
Oh, God, yes.
Next question from XT Ben.
This is one for Kenan.
Dear Doug, but it's for Kenan.
As you grow older, again, for Kenan, do you find that you have less patience for daily driving a fun car?
Will you not tolerate daily in-car with sporty suspension, for example, big bolstered seats, et cetera?
Yeah, well, I mean, luckily, my daily driver is pretty comfortable.
But if you, as you get older, you know, I have run into situations where I'm like,
this doesn't need to be a manual for this situation.
Wow.
Which is something I never thought I would say.
That said, I did buy an automatic and I was like, this is, what am I doing?
This is boring and I went back to having a manual.
So I'm not quite there yet.
I'm on the press.
But when you drive hard-edged cars, do you feel now different than you did when you were 23?
I've always felt like this.
Really?
Yeah.
When you drove those types of cars when you were young, like, you occasionally would get, you know...
You know, I like it on occasions.
Like, the four-day donut coupe that I drove, I mean, that thing was, I mean, that's a race car.
Make no mistake about it.
And I loved it.
But I'm like, this is great as a fifth car in your garage.
I would not want that as the second car.
And you've always felt this way.
This hasn't changed.
You've gotten older.
No, for me, no.
I've always liked it slightly more comfortable.
Felipe, you've never been into sports cars.
Obviously, for me, yes, deeply.
There's been a noticeable change.
Yeah.
Like, I had daily boring cars.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And that went through each one turbo.
I think the all-terrain was kind of like an eye-opening thing.
That car is just like, you didn't need the...
4 and a half seconds 0 to 60.
Yeah, remember, that car is faster than Nick's wagon, 0 to 60.
Yeah.
Especially with Nick Drive.
Yeah, but it's so comfortable.
And it's like, its purpose is just like, nice.
Everything about it is just nice.
Yeah.
For daily, that's what you want.
I've got more into that.
Can I share a story?
I mentioned a few weeks ago that my wife, who drives a lot, and in traffic, was getting
a little tired of having a manual transmission.
Today, she's in a Hyundai Elantra rental car, because a bunch of logistical reasons.
And she called me on her way up to work towards Riverside and complained that it wasn't peppy
enough and that it didn't handle well enough.
Wow, so why didn't it handle well enough?
What was she doing?
I don't ask why.
Tell me what she's doing.
She's got an experience in a GT.
Yeah.
She's white-line certified now.
Yeah.
So she doesn't feel that way.
We're going to do one more question, one more question.
Okay.
From InkDroid B.
Okay.
With BMW's stopping production of the Z4, Jaguar F-Type is gone.
Porsche's Boxster is gone.
Do roadsters have any hope in the U.S. market?
The Miata.
First off, not just the U.S. market, but globally.
The TT is not mentioned there.
That's also gone.
But it might be back.
Mercedes SLK is gone.
SLC is gone.
The CLE though is around.
Yes, but it's a question about roadsters, which I think specifically is referring to
two-seater.
We did forget to talk about the Z4 is dead.
The Z4 is dead.
We didn't talk about in the news, but.
Our roadster is gone.
I'll tell you this.
The most popular convertible on sale today.
Jeep Wrangler.
Jeep Wrangler.
Roadsters live.
It might be the Ford Bronco this year.
We don't know yet, but.
I do think that there is less and less of a market for those cars.
And the SUV killed them like it killed everything else.
I also think that part of the premise of a roadster is some relative affordability.
The people that want more luxury and higher end are probably going to want four seats or
more space.
The roadster specifically is an affordable segment comparatively that is also kind of
just gone.
I think so.
The new SL became a roadster.
That's not selling at all to utter trash.
I think that the market.
The Gran Turismo.
Four seats.
I think even then just convertibles.
I think that the market has generally sort of started to reject less practical cars.
Except for.
Except for the Mustang.
Except for two seats, manual top.
The Miata.
I mean, to a degree, I guess, you know, the Miata is in its 13th year in its life cycle
because there's not a lot of will to redesign.
Right.
I think that they will redesign, but like it's not like every.
It used to be where like, you know, there was a convertible version of the Chevy Cavalier,
the Toyota Paseo, the Honda Civic, like all these cars.
Yeah, dude.
The Civic convertible.
Look it up.
It was called the Delsal.
Well, yeah, that's why.
That was a separate model.
Oh, it was a separate model.
I was trying to think if there was ever, if it was ever called called the Civic convertible.
It was called the Civic Delsal.
Civic of the Sun.
That's true.
Civic of the Sun.
Point taken.
That's in this case.
Anyway, the convertibles are gone.
I do legitimately believe that the SUV played a big role in that.
I think that there used to be that in order to have any sort of performance,
you had to get sort of a sportier car.
And these days, everything has pretty good performance.
And also people want to set up high and have practicality.
And the fact that they're able to do all that in one vehicle,
as opposed to compromising on stuff that roadsters used to make you compromise on,
why not just get an evoke?
It's as fast as a roadster.
It's cool.
And it's also can fit all your friends and your dog and your frisbee golf.
I do miss frisbee golf.
You supply.
I knew it.
I knew it.
I never knew that.
I do think that I'm excited for Lexus' PR speak
when they reveal the ES convertible.
I can do everything a normal convertible can.
What Lexus should do is give us the LBX.
We want the LBX.
Start a letter writing campaign.
LBX.
Go to your Lexus dealer.
The Mariso edition specifically.
The regular trash.
Gotta say that.
Any final words?
Sean, do we have to promote anything that you haven't told us yet?
To promote?
We did it.
I'm pretty good at slipping those in.
Yes.
Filippo slipped it in.
Check out all the velocity cars.
Also, if you don't lock one, it's coming soon.
Yeah.
The velocity cars are so cool.
So cool.
Goodbye, everyone.
Goodbye.
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Jaguar’s new electric concept, the Type 01, takes center stage—four-door speculation, “tight” shut lines, and claims of “Zero tailpipe emissions” plus roughly “1,000 horsepower.” The hosts then pivot to Lotus’s hybrid V8 supercar plans and the messy reality of transmission choices, emissions rules, and resale value. Lamborghini Revuelto pricing is “collapsing in the used market,” while Nissan Z may shift to build-to-order. The back half broadens into roadster/EV market trends and a Cars and Bids market report.
2.4 liter turbo
airbag regulations
air cooled
allocation
all-wheel-drive manual transmission
automatic transmission
axle lift
Bluetooth module
build to order production
concept car
Aston Martin DB7
Aston Martin Vanquish
Audi Q5
Audi Q7
Audi Quattro
BMW 8 Series
BMW M3
BMW M4
BMW M5
BMW X5
BMW Z4
Chevrolet Chevelle
Chevrolet Corvette
Chrysler New Yorker
Dodge Dart
Ferrari 250 GTO
Ferrari 599
Ford Bronco
Ford GT
Ford Mustang
Gordon Murray Automotive T.50
Honda Civic
Honda S2000
Hyundai Elantra
Jaguar F-Type
Jaguar Type 01
Jaguar XJ-S
Jeep Grand Cherokee
Jeep Grand Wagoneer
Jeep Renegade
Jeep Wrangler
Kia Sorento
Lamborghini Aventador
Lamborghini Countach
Lamborghini Huracan
Lamborghini Urus
Lexus LBX
Lotus Elise
Lotus Emira
Lotus Evora
Mazda MX-5 / Miata
McLaren Speedtail
Mercedes-Benz A-Class
Mercedes-Benz CLE
Mercedes-Benz Clk Gtr
Mercedes-Benz GLS
Mercedes-Benz SL-Class (R231)
Mercedes-Benz SLK
Nissan GT-R
Nissan Leaf
Nissan Skyline
Nissan Z
Polestar 3
Polestar 4
Porsche 911
Porsche Boxster
Porsche Carrera GT
Porsche Carrera RS
Saturn Ion Sedan
Subaru WRX
Toyota Corolla
Toyota Corolla Cross
Toyota GR 86
Toyota Grand Highlander
Toyota GR Corolla
Toyota GR Yaris
Toyota MR2
Toyota Paseo
Toyota RAV4
Toyota Supra
Volkswagen Golf
Volkswagen ID. Buzz
Volvo EX60
Volvo XC90
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Chapters:
00:00:00 CAR NEWS
00:00:13 Jaguar Type 01
00:06:04 Built-to-Order Nissan Zs
00:08:30 Doug's Japanese Sports Car Theory
00:11:01 We're Partnering with Stek!
00:12:18 New Lotus Supercar
00:14:34 Lotus is Ditching its Toyota Powertrain
00:20:47 New Audi Q9
00:24:11 Warby Parker
00:25:33 New $20K Chrysler
00:33:33 Lamborghini Fenomeno Roadster
00:35:22 Revueltos Are Collapsing
00:37:03 BMW Alpina Vision
00:40:16 Fast & Furious Show
00:42:58 AutoZone
00:44:48 TALK CARS
00:44:51 New Lexus ES
00:46:29 Lexus LBX
00:50:12 Kennan Damaged His M5
00:54:55 Filippo's Cars & Coffee Event
00:56:32 Velocity Invitational Event
00:58:53 MARKET REPORT
01:00:14 Cheap Full-Size Luxury SUVs
01:02:57 What's Going to Happen to Vintage Car Values
01:05:41 New 911 Values
01:06:51 QUESTIONS!
01:07:18 How is the Quality of Pre-Production Cars?
01:08:46 What Are Your Favorite Modifications?
01:11:39 What Happened to the Doug Bloopers?
01:12:41 Why Not More Lightweight 3-Seaters?
01:14:05 As You Get Older, Do You Have Less Tolerance for Daily Driving a Fun Car?
01:16:19 Is There Any Hope for Roadsters?
01:19:15 Final Thoughts
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