The Shelby Cobra is a fast and stylish sports car that was made in the 1960s. It's famous for being very powerful and is loved by many people who enjoy classic cars and racing.
The Ferrari 599 Spider is a fancy sports car that can be driven with the top down. It's very powerful and designed for speed and luxury.
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Factory Five 1965 Shelby Cobra Replica
The Factory Five 1965 Shelby Cobra Replica is a car that people can build themselves to look like the classic Shelby Cobra. It's known for being fast and fun to drive.
Lemon law is a law that helps people who buy cars that have a lot of problems. If a car is really bad, the owner can get their money back or a new car.
Diagnostics is how mechanics figure out what's wrong with a car. They use computers to read codes that tell them about any problems the car might have.
GM stands for General Motors, a big car company that makes many different types of cars. They often need to fix problems with their cars, which can lead to recalls.
Memory foam seats are special car seats that mold to your body shape, making them more comfortable. They were first created by NASA to help protect pilots and passengers in case of crashes.
An anti-lock braking system (ABS) helps keep your car's wheels from locking up when you brake hard, which helps you steer better. It was inspired by technology used in airplanes to stop them from skidding.
Brake pressure modulation means changing how hard the brakes are applied to keep the car stable. It helps drivers steer better, especially when they need to stop quickly.
A head-up display shows important information right in front of the driver, like speed or directions, so they don’t have to look down at the dashboard. It’s like having a mini screen on the windshield.
Strength to weight ratio tells us how strong a material is compared to how heavy it is. Lighter and stronger materials help cars go faster and use less fuel.
Fuel injection systems help engines get the right amount of fuel to run efficiently. They make sure the engine gets the right mix of fuel and air for better performance.
Electronic fuel injection is a way for cars to control how much fuel goes into the engine using computers. This helps the car run better and use less fuel.
Tire technology is about how tires are made and improved to make cars safer and better to drive. It includes things like the materials used and the patterns on the tire's surface.
Tire construction techniques are the ways tires are built. This includes how different materials are layered together to make the tire strong and safe for driving.
Tread patterns are the shapes and designs on the outside of a tire. They help the tire grip the road and keep the car stable, especially in wet conditions.
Cadillac Ranch is a famous art site in Texas where old Cadillacs are buried in the ground. People visiting can paint on them, so the artwork changes all the time.
Gulf Coast Auto Shield is a business that helps protect your car's paint and windows. They have special treatments to make your car look new and keep it safe from scratches and damage.
Ceramic coating is a special liquid that is put on your car's paint to protect it. It helps keep the car shiny and makes it easier to wash without damaging the paint.
Paint protection film is a clear layer that you can put on your car's paint to keep it safe from scratches and damage. It helps your car look good for a longer time.
Nano ceramic window tint is a special film you can put on your car windows to keep the sun out. It helps keep the inside of your car cooler and protects you from harmful rays.
Exo Shield is a special film that you can put on your car's windshield to help protect it from getting damaged. It makes the glass stronger and safer.
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Welcome to another in-wheel-time podcast, a 30-minute minigurion of the in- wheel-time car show, that airs live every Saturday morning at 8.11 AM.팅. We're still coming up when you talk to a real lemon lawyer? What happens? When the cars we buy and hate so much? When we want our money back, what happens? Later Jeff has Car Tech that originated from the space program, and that weekend has 5 things about Rift 66 in Texas.
Texas. Howdy along with Mike out of this world bar as we always need more Jeff
Zeken Chief Engineer David Ainsley with us this morning. I'm Don Armstrong.
Glad you could join us today. I'm dying to get into this but before we move on
I have to get a pronunciation. Is it Havana's Margarian?
Oh he's muted. You got to unmute. You have to unmute yourself.
There you go. Havana's Margarian. Good morning. I'll say it again.
Havana's Margarian. I'm sorry I'm sure that I'm not the only person that
screwed up your name. Okay very good. So I have to ask you where are you and
how did you get situated in such a way that you are now known as the
lemon lawyer? So I'm in my garage. I'm I got situated this way because I've
been doing this for 20 years now exclusively litigating lemon law cases and
dealer fraud cases and class actions against car manufacturers and car
dealers. So during law school I was brokering cars I got to learn the
industry how car sales are processed and everything and all the good and the
bad side of the automotive industry and then right out of law school I started
representing consumers with claims against manufacturers and dealers and you
know it's been almost 20 years now that was 2006 and a few years back I had
this vision I've always hosted events I always I'm very social so I had
this vision to have a place where I can invite friends hang out have like a
men cave car collection area and an inspection area so I picked up these
properties so my law firm is actually next to this building where I'm sitting
right now and then this is my garage area and I'm going to sort of around the
other side is my office where I also have cars I usually have one or two cars
there behind me are my couple of my cars so the Mustang super snake the
Ferraris have 90 spider and then this is the factory 5 1965 Shelby Cobra
replica that we just finished building here actually so all those in shop so
we just got it back like two weeks ago so all of those have been involved in
a lemon law no these are my my cars I do have a Lamborghini outside that's
part of a lemon law case so occasionally when clients are pretty much fed up
with their car and they don't want to drive it anymore because it's unsafe
they I let them park it in my parking lot until the cases resolve so we usually
have a couple cars around that belong to clients that are defective but on a
typical day I have clients coming in with their paperwork and their cars
because we do inspect the cars here if we need to put it up on the lift we'll
do that otherwise usually we'll run diagnostics because we have all the
computers to run the codes to see what's going on we use that in between the
paperwork that the consumers get from the dealers because sometimes the
paperwork is detailed and thorough other times the dealers are skipping over
things and refusing to admit the effects so we run the codes ourselves so that
we know what's going on with each car so are all of these vehicles exotics or
is it just any vehicle that you represent so it's any vehicle no it's the
consumer laws applied to all new consumer vehicles so as long as it was
purchased brand new in California brand new in other states the used cars
may still be covered then you have certain rights and the way I explained
is this you get a car a new car they all come with warranties right so the
warranty says if something breaks will fix it so it's reasonable for a car to
have one or two issues minor issues but then there's the lemon mod that goes on
top of your warranty and says if the number of repairs the defects the problems
this car exhibits become unreasonable or the dealer takes too long to fix it and
the circumstances are unfair the code section says if the issues interfere with
the use or safety of the car then you may have a lemon locked claim where you
should get a refund so so that's where the kind of the defect heightens to the
level of necessitating review from us and then if it's a viable case then we'll
make the claim for a refund from the manufacturer now can you practice law
here in Texas technically right now no but I'm in the process of getting
reciprocal admission which means if you're licensed in California's in a
journey you can get automatic admission in Texas as long as you apply and you
qualify like you have no no issues in your records which I don't so I'm in the
process of doing that and we're looking into expanding in Texas in the near
future let's talk about the General Motors 6.2 liter V8 that has been recalled
but it didn't get recalled originally and all of these consumers were
having major issues with engine failure which is obviously the major
component of a car thousands and thousands of dollars and the engine didn't
work or it malfunctioned have you been involved in any of that yeah so we have
cases where the clients experience that issue usually whenever there's either a
mass recall or well we start with the mass defect right some component is
defective and then people start complaining as they start complaining we start
noticing a pattern at my office and we're filing individual cases initially when
it we feel like there's a peak like too many people complaining with the same
issue then we look into whether there's recall that's coming up or whether we
should file a class action to insist that the manufacturer issues a recall or a
repair on that component so so as far as my involvement I have cases I have
clients who have defected cars but we haven't filed a class on this one ourselves
and then now GM realized that it should the recall and what's interesting
about recall is a recall gives you a repair hopefully that where they replace the
part with something that works better or a new part but you may still have a
lemon claim because under the lemon laws if you've had the issue a couple
times or if it took a long time for them to repair it even once you may be
entitled to full refund so the manufacturers kind of chime in to do a recall to
prevent thousands of car owners from filing the lemon walk cases so that's
really their reaction to stop that so kind of to get people to the remedy
because they're worried that all these people are now going to start filing lemon
walk cases when you have when you have a problem with the vehicle and we get
into the lemon law thing do you notify NHTSA that you see this pattern happening
right now today and you filed all these cases and you guys need to get involved
in that do you do that? I don't I honestly my my approach is to just deal
directly with the manufacturer and see how they're going to respond and if
they're being unreasonable and I'll tell you why there is a subsection in the
at least in the California code section that says if they will fully refuse to
fix a car and offer a remedy like if there is a continuous defect then the case
becomes worth three times the amount of the claim so from the perspective of
representing my clients best interest I mean at some point we're pushing them to
repair the cars but then there's a turning point where we're done with that
and we're saying well this is our claim we want three times and if you're going
to be unreasonable and you're not going to admit the defect then so be it
will litigate we'll get to trial we're going to seek three times which is why a
lot of my recoveries are like I have record recoveries on cases where I will
litigate all the way and get ready for trial and then it's too late for them to
back out it's too late to offer a basic refund so then they have to pay me two
times or three times to settle out so for that purpose I don't get authorities
involved in that sense and also a long time ago I decided not to do that for
another reason I was doing a lot of dealer fraud cases suing dealers and we
noticed that when we complain to too many people then the dealers fold and go
bankrupt and then there's nobody to pay my client so I have to be kind of
careful not to put anybody out of business with my cases I'm kind of focused on
getting that client the remedy they deserve so how long does it take for a
start of a claim to resolution is there any time frame or are there all
different so the typical processes we assess the case couple days then we're
ready to go we'll do a full explanation to the client of what the merits are on
their case what the numbers look like in the high end low end and everything I
disclose everything and then we start the case a demand letter goes out giving
the manufacturer 30 days some manufacturers respond within two to three weeks
and if they're rational they'll say okay we got a deal we'll buy back the
card here's the calculation give us a couple more weeks we'll do the paperwork
so with those scenarios you're out of the car literally in about six to eight
weeks you're done your loan is paid off your refund is issued and then your
attorneys fees are paid separately in other scenarios where they're delaying
procrastinating or just flat out refusing to admit that there is a defect it
will we will end up filing the lawsuit after the 30 days expires I literally will
sue them the next day on the 31st day because I work very strictly I don't
mess around I don't just sit around and beg them for settlement so we will
sue them and then as soon as discovery starts we will start
propounding discovery they're you know requesting their paperwork requesting
their internal person most knowledgeable to be deposed and things of that
nature dealer personnel and then the reaction to that again depends on the
manufacturer and on the set case sometimes they will quickly respond saying okay
stop we've got a settlement we're going to take care of you let's look at the
numbers other times they will delay things and it's kind of sometimes it's
counterintuitive how they react although when we look at the bigger picture their
reactions are based on a lot of internal factors for example if they get hit
with a thousand five thousand losses this month and they don't want to pay
out a couple million dollars next month even if the lawsuits have perfect
merits they will still refuse to settle those cases so we see a lot of the
dynamics are a mix between the merits of the case and their business strategy and
their cash flow which a lot of times consumers don't realize or you know on
the individual side you don't really care what's going on at this
manufacturer you just want your refund but they're looking at as a big picture
and if we sue them unfortunately the trial date is going to be a year or two
out so they're looking at it saying well this liability is not really becoming a
big deal until a year from now so let's settle this in three months when we
have better cash flow then we don't want to settle it now do you have any
class actions going on now nothing that pops up in my mind I mean I've done a few
where like check engine oil over consumption things like that break issues and
a couple of couple things of that nature I haven't had anything interesting
exciting recently that I would focus on the you know and then as far as the
class actions the manufacturers actually benefit from the class
actions because what they try to do is the following they've got a car with a
defect they get thousands of claims for repairs and then the refund claim
start rolling in and they'll they're literally hoping somebody will sue
them as a class action so that they can settle everybody up and say okay
everybody's getting a thousand dollars for the inconvenience and everybody gets
to repair and everybody's claims are waived which actually on a grand scale is a
big settlement but a lot of times those class members have individual refund
claims for fifty hundred thousand dollars and those all get knocked out when
there is a class action settlement so so that's kind of the unfair side of
class actions okay so if somebody offers you let's say for instance that I've
got a 6.2 liter nobody's doing anything but there's a class action going on
I'm probably better off suing individually than I am getting joining a class
action yes so typically we'll review the paperwork if you have an individual
claim you're absolutely better off because the class is not going to be that
everybody's getting their hundred thousand dollar purchase price back it's
going to be everybody's getting a new engine a new warranty or extended
warranty or five hundred dollar credit but on the individual claim if you meet
the criteria then you're getting your refund so you're way better off if you
meet the parameters to do an individual claim to opt out of the class
action to get your eighty thousand dollar refund for example which is why the
manufacturers are pushing the class action and the settlement it's not they're
not doing it because they're nice they're just they're getting a slap on the
wrist for something that's a huge liability to them they're just paying out of
fraction of what it would cost to pay out all the individual claimants do you
have any do you have any dealerships that you are working with that are suing
manufacturers not really know because they're pretty much very dependent on
the manufacturers so they're complacent in the whole process they don't want to
bite the hand the feet right yeah yeah they'll they'll shut down the
allocations and then they'll be out of business so you don't have that you
know and typically dealers they know me but they kind of shy away from me
personally because I see the manufacturers a lot occasionally the dealers I get
these off-the-record referrals from all the dealers because they all know I
pretty much run all the cases most of the cases in California I'm very very
well established but they can't establish direct relationships with me
because it's going to be a conflict with the manufacturers that I'm suing
and occasionally I impose their people as witnesses so we can't have a formal
good relationship in most occasions although there are a lot of dealers that
are friendly they operate clean they don't do shady things so I'm very
I'm on very good terms with them and if something comes up
I have a very candid approach like if somebody has a claim things they have a
claim but you look at the merits that there is no claim I will turn that
consumer away I'll explain why they have no case maybe they're upset about
something but I'll tell them look don't don't do this there's no there are no
merits to your claim just go away let it go don't
file anything frivolous that's not what I'm into kind of
the same thing on the like the legal malpractice right there's it's a
separate it's an unrelated area but a lot of people don't do that I have a
tendency if somebody says this attorney did something wrong I go tell me what
they did let me go through the it facts with you
and then usually I'm like look it into anything wrong if it didn't do anything
I don't want somebody getting sued or attacked if they didn't really do
anything wrong I hate to interrupt but we're short on time here I
didn't want to ask you do you have a website that we can go to to get more
information or how do we get in touch with you or that's the best way is my
Instagram it's my name hovanis h-o-v-a-n-e-s dot
margarian m-a-r-g-a-r-i-a-n underscore e-s-q for s-quire so I'm very active on
Instagram I post the legal educational videos and then car content my wife does
the same thing she's an attorney we work together so that's the best way to
stay in touch and informed and then if questions come up just you that way you
can reach out to us and then when you want to have a fun time on a fun
car show you know us inwheeltime.com yes absolutely
hovanis thank you so much for joining today very informative and we really
appreciate you time best of luck to you stay in touch with us
all right thank you for having me thank you just ahead Jeff's car culture
today's car tech that we stole from the space program and Mars has five
things about Route 66 in Texas all that more right after this break on the
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car tech from the space industry you bet all right so here we go yes when NASA
engineers were busy figuring out how to land humans on the moon bring them
back safely they probably weren't thinking about your local daily commute
yet many technologies developed for space exploration have found their way into
modern vehicles making our car safer more efficient and surprisingly sophisticated
mic the first one memory foam seats NASA developed memory foam seats in the
sixties to improve crash protection for airline pilots and passengers the
materials ability to conform to the body shape while distributing weight
evenly made it perfect for the space applications
today's car seats use the same technology to provide comfort during log
drives and reduce pressure points that can cause fatigue how about that the next
one mike is anti-lock braking systems i didn't know this the concept behind the
ABS came from aerospace anti-skid systems designed to prevent aircraft wheels
from locking up during landing space shuttles needed similar technology for
the runway touchdowns where precise braking meant the difference between a
successful landing or disaster modern cars use the same principle for rapid
rapid brake pressure modulation to maintain steering control during emergency
stops now you see that in that picture that's the motorcycle hand grip or hand
brake same principle same principle so the next one mike is a head-up
display which i use in my car all the time
fighter jet spacecraft pioneers brought this display technology to keep
critical critical information in pilot's line of sight without forcing
them to look down at their instruments NASA refined this technology for
space missions were astronauts needed to have constant access to vital data
while maintaining visual contact with their surroundings modern luxury cars
project speed navigation and warning information onto the windshield
allowing drivers to stay focused on the road that's exactly what mine looks
like right there that's perfect the next one mike is advanced composite
materials space programs needed for lightweight yet
incredibly strong materials led to the breakthroughs in carbon fiber and
other composite technologies these materials had to withstand the extreme
conditions of space travel while keeping space
weight to a minimum today's high-performance cars use the same
composites in the body panels chassis components and interior trim
that they use in aerospace the materials provide
superior strength to weight ratios compared to traditional steel so that's
very important that's very cool next one Michael fuel injection systems rocket
to achieve optimal combustion efficiency and power output
NASA's on throttle control the fuel metering systems
for space engines is influenced by automotive fuel technology
and development modern cars can use electronic fuel injection systems
that trace their precision and efficiency back to rocket engine technology
i want to put that in a in a car just tub that out there you go
improved tire technology we all know this
NASA's lunar rover program required tires that could handle the moon's safety
information safety over rocky roads or airless environment
without failing research the tire compounds tread patterns and construction
techniques influenced the earthbound tire development so there you go i
wonder if there's still inflated up there on the moon
no they're wired they're like a mesh they're like a wire mesh from 1969
no there's no air it's a wire mesh yeah it's like a chain mail
yeah that's what the tires may not really yeah it's kind of like what you
wear on Saturday night yeah i've got the pair of underwear to match it
right now oh yeah the cha四 cha dot cha did cha appears mmm yeah but also
wire uh...
drill a battery operated drills i'm trying to vision that in my mind
please don't i'm gonna wear them next week battery operated drills
you know what technician doesn't have that in here you know a stuff like that
so very cool that is very cool that's a great story thank you sir
all right uh... let us do uh... driving destinations
And today it's going to be Route 66 in Texas.
Now almost everybody has heard,
if you drive cars or anything, you know what Route 66 is.
You know, the highway doesn't exist anymore.
Well, it exists in pieces,
but you know, it went from Chicago out to California
and it's how people got across the country for years
and it comes through Texas as well as several other states.
Now, I will admit upfront, it's only 178 miles
of it's in Texas, but there's a lot of stuff.
No, that's all, that's all there ever was.
I see.
So the first thing you're going to know,
everybody's kind of heard of the Cadillac Ranch
near Amarillo.
It's one of the Route 66 most iconic stops.
It was created in 1974 by a group of artists.
It features 10 vintage Cadillacs
buried nose first into the ground.
Travelers are encouraged to bring their own spray cans
to leave their marks,
making it ever changing canvas and cover.
So the attraction symbolizes freedom, creativity
and the road trips spirit.
Now, the next stop is going to be the do-drop-in
in Shamrock, Texas.
Now, this is a shining example
of art deco architecture, Long Route 66.
This was built in 1936.
They're building originally housed at Cafe and a gas station.
Been restored to its former glory and now serves
as a visitor center and museum.
It's got bold neon signage and unique design
that made it a model for Ramones House of Body Art
in Pixar's Cars movie.
Now, today it represents both history
and the modern nostalgia of the Mother Road.
Now, up in Adrian, Texas,
it's the midpoint of Route 66.
Now, it proudly marks the midpoint,
exactly 1,139 miles from both Chicago and Los Angeles.
The midpoint cafe celebrates the state of the nation,
serving classic American comfort food,
including the famous ugly crust pie.
Now, travelers stop here for photos
where the midpoint sign
to experience the two heart of the Mother Road.
Moving on to Vega,
you're gonna find the historic Magnolia gas station
that's been restored in Vegas.
I own the Vega one time, actually two of them.
And we'll see, you could go on here
and feel like you're gonna ride it, huh?
There's my Vega in Vega.
Now, it was built in the 1920s.
The small station provided fuel and service
for countless road travelers.
Today, it's been rebuilt and it stands
as historical landmark and photo opportunity,
representing a small town charm.
That's Define's Texas stretch of Route 66.
Moving on to Amarillo.
Amarillo, they have a lot of neon and motor courts there
and it preserves Route 66 classic roadside culture
with those vintage motor courts and neon signs
and diners along the historic Six Street District.
Now, you can walk this stretch
and so it feels like you're stepping back
in the golden era of American road trips
with retro motels and teak shops
and quirkie eateries along the route.
Now, this is the welcome travelers
just like they did years ago.
So if you wanna, there's a few more stops,
that's a quick look at Route 66
through the state of Texas.
I was at the Cadillac Ranch of about 17 years ago
because my Kylie, she was born.
I went there, I was on a business trip
and we went to Walmart, got shaker cans of paint.
We went out there.
You got a long walk from the road.
It's probably to the front of this property here
at Heminghyde, you had to walk out to the realest way.
There's a path and you jump up on them,
you start painting them.
Now, it's a little different.
They've got like a building
where you can go use the restroom,
like a little gift shop, gift shop stuff,
just down the road.
It's not their own property.
But yeah, I've been there.
It's pretty neat, if you don't know what to expect
but you're just static Cadillacs in the ground.
Why not?
Why not?
And it's about each one of them.
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About this episode
Navigating lemon laws can be complex, but Hovanis Margarian, known as the 'lemon lawyer', breaks it down. With nearly 20 years in the field, he shares insights on how consumers can claim refunds for defective vehicles. The discussion covers the intricacies of lemon law claims, including the importance of documentation and the potential for class action lawsuits. Additionally, the episode touches on notable recalls, like the GM 6.2-liter V8, and the dynamics between manufacturers and consumers. Listeners will gain valuable knowledge about their rights and the lemon law process.
Ever wondered what happens when your brand-new dream car turns into a mechanical nightmare? Hovanes Margarian, known as "The Lemon Lawyer," pulls back the curtain on the fascinating world of automotive consumer protection law in this eye-opening conversation.
From his unique garage-turned-law-office where client vehicles undergo inspection alongside his personal collection (including a Ferrari SF90 Spider), Margarian reveals the inner workings of lemon law cases that have defined his 20-year career. With remarkable candor, he explains how manufacturers often make strategic decisions about settling claims based not just on case merit, but on their own financial timing and broader liability concerns.
The conversation delivers surprising insights that every car owner should know. Margarian explains why class action settlements frequently serve manufacturers better than consumers, offering modest compensation while extinguishing potentially valuable individual refund claims. He also shares how the timeline from claim to resolution can vary dramatically depending on a manufacturer's willingness to acknowledge defects.
Beyond legal strategies, the episode takes fascinating detours into automotive technology and history. Jeff explores car innovations directly descended from NASA's space program – from memory foam seats to anti-lock brakes – while Mike guides us through the 178-mile stretch of Route 66 that winds through Texas, highlighting iconic stops like Cadillac Ranch and the official midpoint between Chicago and Los Angeles.
Whether you're dealing with a problematic vehicle or simply fascinated by the intersection of automotive culture and consumer rights, this episode delivers valuable knowledge wrapped in entertaining conversation. Follow Hovanes on Instagram @Hovanes.Margarian_ESQ for more automotive legal insights and subscribe to hear more from the In Wheel Time team.
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