"The Million Dollar Swing!" How One GM Drove $1M in Profit Growth in a Year & The Numbers Behind It | Frank Esparza, General Manager at Tracy Honda
About this episode
Frank Esparza, GM at Tracy Honda, breaks down how he took the helm on January 1, 2025 and drove measurable improvements over the next 18 months. He credits changes to “people process and pay plans,” enforcing minimum unit standards, and tightening sales execution—like early management intervention and higher back-end attach rates. On the finance side, he explains how Upstart’s AI underwriting and desking tool helped approvals at lower interest rates, while marketing and CRM discipline supported the growth.
pay plans
"One of the three P's obviously is people process and pay plans. Those are the things that drive [136.3s] the sales people and that what goes on in between the walls of the store."
A pay plan is how a car salesperson gets paid. It can be based on how many cars they sell and how much profit those deals make. If you change it, you can change what the sales team focuses on.
In a dealership, a pay plan is the compensation structure for salespeople—how their pay is calculated based on things like units sold and gross profit. Changing pay plans is often used to steer behavior toward higher profitability rather than just higher volume.
minimum standards
"We did. We did change plans. [145.2s] Like what was not working before that? [147.4s] We had minimum standards, but we were not enforcing minimum standards and making sure [152.5s] that you, you know, it's, it's mandatory, not optional and that you enforce the pay"
Minimum standards are the basic rules for performance that employees have to meet. Here, it sounds like they’re sales targets that must be hit consistently to keep the job.
Minimum standards are baseline performance requirements the dealership expects employees to meet. In this context, they’re tied to enforcing a specific sales quota so the store stays production-focused and profitable.
10 cars per month
"You know, you got to sell 10 cars. If you [163.0s] don't sell 10, you can't stick around."
That’s a sales quota: a required number of cars to sell each month. If someone doesn’t hit it, the GM says they can’t keep the job.
This is a dealership sales quota—an explicit monthly unit target used to measure whether salespeople are meeting expectations. The GM discusses how enforcing such quotas affects staffing and performance.
production based business
"But the reality is, is that we're, we're a production based business and [183.5s] you have to produce. Otherwise, unfortunately, we, we got to part friends, you know, so that [189.5s] is definitely what we see."
A production-based business model means the organization is judged primarily on output—here, the number of cars sold. The host is contrasting that with a more relationship-focused culture, emphasizing that sales volume is still the core requirement.
12 cars a month
"We're currently [215.6s] at 12. So the minimum standards is 12 cars a month in order to keep your job. So we've [221.7s] increased it by two in the last, you know, 18 months."
This is the newer monthly sales target the dealership expects. The GM says they increased it from the earlier number to keep performance standards high.
This is the updated minimum sales quota the GM says the dealership uses to keep employees. It’s part of a strategy of raising minimum standards over time as the team meets the initial targets.
internet manager
"“...I hired him as a salesperson, and I promoted him. The general sales manager that I have, I hired him as an internet manager.”"
An internet manager is the person at a car dealership who handles online leads. They help respond to people who contact the dealership through the website and guide them toward buying.
An internet manager is a dealership role focused on online lead handling—responding to website and internet inquiries, coordinating follow-up, and helping convert digital shoppers into sales. It’s commonly tied to lead-response speed and process.
General Sales Manager (GSM)
"“...The general sales manager that I have, I hired him as an internet manager. I promoted him to sales manager, promoted him to general sales manager.”"
A general sales manager runs the dealership’s sales operation. They’re responsible for how the sales team performs and usually help manage sales managers and targets.
A general sales manager oversees the dealership’s sales department, including sales strategy, staffing, and performance. In many stores, they manage or coordinate the sales manager(s) and help drive overall unit and profit targets.
finance department
"“...The finance department, two of the four finance guys that I have, I trained...”"
The finance department is where the dealership finalizes how you’ll pay for the car. They also handle financing paperwork and may offer extra protection products.
The finance department (often called F&I) handles financing and insurance products for customers after a vehicle is selected. This includes arranging loans/leases and selling add-ons like warranties or protection products.
training from within
"“...So I'm a real proponent of training from within and growing from within, we'd rather hire and train internally than train, bring somebody from the outside and train them on our process...”"
“Training from within” means teaching people the dealership’s way of doing things by promoting and developing current employees. The idea is they’ll follow your process better than someone new.
“Training from within” is an internal promotion and development approach—growing employees through the dealership’s own processes rather than hiring experienced outsiders. The GM argues it helps maintain consistent execution of the store’s sales workflow.
Prophecy Digital
"“...the marketing company that we decided to go with actually got from one of the other dealers in our 20 group. It's called Prophecy Digital.”"
Prophecy Digital is a marketing company. The GM says they helped his dealership’s results by running effective marketing work.
Prophecy Digital is the marketing company the GM says his dealership chose to work with. He credits their performance with helping the dealership’s sales results over the last 18 months.
podium
"“This episode is brought to you by podium. If you're like most dealers, you've probably tried some version of AI by now...”"
Podium is a company that provides AI tools for car dealerships. The pitch is that it helps with real dealership tasks (like sales and service), not just generic replies.
Podium is presented as a vendor for AI-driven dealership tools. The host claims it uses customizable AI agents to run sales and service workflows, implying automation beyond generic chat.
customizable AI agents
"“...thousands of their customizable AI agents are actively running sales and service workflows every day. What makes them...”"
Customizable AI agents are AI programs you can set up to do specific jobs. Here, the claim is that they help with real dealership tasks like sales follow-ups and service workflows.
Customizable AI agents are software “agents” that can be configured to perform specific tasks. In this context, the GM claims they actively run sales and service workflows rather than only generating generic responses.
voice AI
"especially voice into one customizable platform. So you're not stacking a bunch of disconnected [640.6s] systems and let's be real. The phone is still where a lot of money is won or lost podiums voice AI [646.8s] books appointments routes calls correctly and escalates when it should"
Voice AI is a computer program that can understand what someone says out loud. In a car dealership, it can answer calls, ask questions, and send the customer to the right place so leads don’t get missed.
Voice AI is software that understands spoken words and can respond automatically, often by using speech recognition and text-to-speech. In a dealership context, it can handle calls, gather details, and route customers to the right team without a human answering every time.
upper funnel
"What I would tell you is this, we've tried multiple [697.0s] companies. Just like you've said, we've gone to one, they they didn't work. We've tried another [701.9s] didn't work. We're moving around, always looking for a better mousetrap, right? And so [708.6s] when we came to this company, our COO, Ken Harvey himself actually said, Hey,"
The upper funnel is the early part of the buying process. It’s when people are learning about the dealership and becoming leads, before they’re ready to purchase.
The upper funnel refers to the early stages of the customer journey—awareness and lead generation—before someone is ready to buy. Frank is asking how to assign value to leads created earlier in the funnel, not just final sales.
Ken Harvey
"when we came to this company, our COO, Ken Harvey himself actually said, Hey, [714.7s] one of my other dealerships wants to use another company and you want to use these guys."
Ken Harvey is mentioned as the COO (chief operating officer) who suggested trying Prophecy at Frank’s dealership. His role matters because he’s the internal decision-maker driving the A/B testing approach.
AB test
"And so [720.7s] I said, Well, why don't we do an AB test? You let him do the one he wants to do. I'll do [725.0s] prophecy and we'll see how we perform."
An A/B test is a simple way to compare two options. You try option A with one group and option B with another, then you look at which one gets better results.
An A/B test compares two versions of a process (A vs. B) to see which one performs better on a measurable outcome. Here, Frank describes running two different lead/marketing approaches side-by-side at dealerships to determine which drives better results.
VLA
"He's very G4 analytical, [749.7s] wants the VLA's want and that's unfortunately not how they operate."
VLA’s is an acronym for a specific kind of lead or tracking metric. Frank is saying the vendor they tried didn’t measure or deliver results in the format that their team wanted.
VLA’s is an acronym in dealership marketing/analytics, likely referring to a specific type of lead or performance metric the COO wants. The segment implies it’s a measurable outcome that the other vendor’s process doesn’t support in the same way.
G4 analytics
"He's very G4 analytical, [749.7s] wants the VLA's want and that's unfortunately not how they operate. [755.9s] Prophecy, their mousetrap is built a little different. What we found out very quickly is [761.1s] we send it, we're spending a certain amount of budget on marketing that we really can't attribute"
G4 analytics sounds like a dashboard or reporting tool the dealership uses to track marketing results. The goal is to see which efforts actually lead to real customers, not just clicks.
G4 analytics appears to refer to a dealership analytics/reporting system used to measure marketing and lead performance. In the segment, Frank uses it to evaluate whether marketing spend can be tied to outcomes like appointments or sales.
UTM tags
"we found that out by looking at our G4 analytics and our UTM tags and everything"
UTM tags are like labels you attach to a website link. They help a dealership figure out which ad or campaign a customer clicked, so they can track what actually leads to sales.
UTM tags are tracking parameters added to URLs so marketers can identify where a click came from (like a specific campaign, source, or medium). Frank says they used UTM tags alongside analytics to determine how much marketing spend could be linked to measurable lead outcomes.
FNI process
"So what have you changed? Like we talked about outside the store or like online, but when it comes to actual in store, whether it be your FNI process, your sales, we said training, you've done training."
“F&I” is the part of the dealership where the paperwork and extra protection products are handled. It’s where you might hear about warranties or other add-ons after the main car sale.
In dealerships, F&I (often said as “FNI” in speech) is the finance and insurance side of the sales process. It covers how the deal is finalized and how add-on products like warranties and protection plans are presented and sold.
desking deals
"Do you have a traditional FNI box or how do you desk deals? How does your store? Yeah, we have a traditional FNI box. Our process is desking deals is done through VIN solutions."
“Desking” means the dealership sets up the deal and prepares the paperwork at the sales desk. Instead of waiting for finance to start, sales handles more of it up front.
“Desking” is a dealership workflow where the deal is structured and negotiated at the sales desk with the paperwork prepared early. The goal is to move the transaction forward faster and reduce handoffs between sales and finance.
traditional FNI box
"Do you have a traditional FNI box or how do you desk deals? How does your store? Yeah, we have a traditional FNI box. Our process is desking deals is done through VIN solutions."
A “traditional F&I box” is the usual setup where the finance team takes over later in the process. The host is saying their store does more of the deal work at the sales desk instead.
A “traditional F&I box” refers to a more separated dealership setup where finance handles the deal after sales, often with less early involvement from finance. The speaker contrasts this with their approach where deals are “bought at the desk” before finance finalizes the paperwork.
Vin Solutions
"Our process is desking deals is done through VIN solutions. We process deals just like everything's done at the desk."
VIN Solutions is a computer system dealerships use to handle car deal paperwork tied to a specific VIN number. Here, it’s the tool they use to process deals at the desk instead of passing everything to finance first.
VIN Solutions is a dealership software platform used to support deal processing and vehicle identification using the VIN (Vehicle Identification Number). In this context, it’s how they “desk deals” and manage paperwork at the sales desk.
backend products
"We have about a 60 to 70% sale rate of back end products in the front of the store. So we pitch warranty gap, low jack or paint and fab up front."
“Back end products” are the extras sold during the finance step, after the car price is set. Think warranties and other protection plans that add cost but can add coverage.
“Back end products” are the finance-and-insurance add-ons sold after the main vehicle sale, such as extended warranties, gap coverage, theft recovery, and appearance protection. Dealerships track these because they can materially increase profit per transaction.
warranty gap
"So we pitch warranty gap, low jack or paint and fab up front. And we have a pretty good success rate at throughput on those items before they get into finance."
Gap coverage helps if your car is totaled and the insurance payout is less than what you still owe on the loan. It covers the “gap” so you’re not stuck paying the difference.
“Gap” coverage (often sold alongside warranties) helps pay the difference between what you owe on the loan and the car’s actual cash value if the vehicle is totaled or stolen. It’s especially relevant for buyers with little down payment or longer loan terms.
Lowjack
"So we pitch warranty gap, low jack or paint and fab up front. And we have a pretty good success rate at throughput on those items before they get into finance."
“Low Jack” is an anti-theft recovery system. If a car is stolen, it’s designed to help authorities find it and recover it faster.
“Low Jack” refers to an aftermarket vehicle recovery system (commonly a stolen-vehicle tracking/recovery service). It’s marketed as improving the odds of locating and recovering a stolen car.
paint and fab
"So we pitch warranty gap, low jack or paint and fab up front. And we have a pretty good success rate at throughput on those items before they get into finance."
“Paint and fab” is a dealership add-on for protecting the car’s look—things like paint or interior fabric protection. It’s meant to reduce wear and help the car stay nicer longer.
“Paint and fab” is shorthand for dealership paint and appearance protection products, typically covering things like paint protection, fabric protection, or related surface-care plans. These are usually sold as add-ons to improve profit per deal.
FNI department
"Overall, my FNI department averages well over 2400 a copy right around 23, 2400 a copy. [1104.2s] On the topic of FNI, I saw you had one note here of your upstart deals."
In a car dealership, FNI usually means the finance-and-insurance team. They help customers get approved for financing and they also handle extra protection products that can be added to the deal.
FNI in a dealership context refers to the finance and insurance side of the business. It’s the team that structures auto loans/leases and sells add-ons like warranties and coverage products that sit alongside the vehicle sale.
upstart
"Well, I will tell you that our partnership with upstart has been really, really beneficial for us. And the reason is, is there are full spectrum lender just like everybody wants to be a full spectrum lender, but you have your, in reality, every bank says that, but they're not."
Upstart is a company that helps car dealerships arrange financing for customers. Instead of only using the usual banks, the dealer can send deals through Upstart’s system to get approvals and paperwork moving faster.
Upstart is a non-traditional auto-lending platform that dealers can use to submit customers for financing and receive loan decisions. In the transcript, the GM is describing how partnering with Upstart changed the dealership’s approval and processing workflow versus “traditional” lenders.
A paper
"you have your A paper, your B paper, your C paper, your D paper that run the gamut from, [1136.3s] you know, the big guys chasing cap one all the way down to the West Lakes and, you know, Santander."
In car financing talk, “A paper” usually means the best-quality loans—generally for customers with stronger credit. It’s part of a ranking system dealers use to describe how risky or favorable a loan is.
“A paper” is dealer-lending jargon for higher-quality loan paper—typically meaning loans with better credit risk and more favorable terms. The GM is using it as part of a spectrum (A through D) to explain how different lenders price and approve deals differently.
B paper
"you have your A paper, your B paper, your C paper, your D paper that run the gamut from, [1136.3s] you know, the big guys chasing cap one all the way down to the West Lakes and, you know, Santander."
“B paper” is a shorthand dealers use to group loans by risk. It usually means the loan is not the very best tier, but it’s also not the worst tier.
“B paper” is part of the same A-to-D loan-quality spectrum used in dealership finance. It generally indicates loans that are in the middle of the risk/terms range—less favorable than “A paper,” but not as risky as the lower tiers.
C paper
"you have your A paper, your B paper, your C paper, your D paper that run the gamut from, [1136.3s] you know, the big guys chasing cap one all the way down to the West Lakes and, you know, Santander."
“C paper” is a dealership finance label for loans that are riskier than the top tiers. That usually affects whether lenders approve the deal and what terms the customer gets.
“C paper” refers to a lower tier of loan paper quality within the A-to-D spectrum. In practice, it typically corresponds to higher credit risk and therefore different lender pricing/approval behavior than the top tiers.
D paper
"you have your A paper, your B paper, your C paper, your D paper that run the gamut from, [1136.3s] you know, the big guys chasing cap one all the way down to the West Lakes and, you know, Santander."
“D paper” is a shorthand for the riskiest financing tier in that A-to-D system. Deals in this bucket are more likely to be harder to approve and may come with tougher terms.
“D paper” is the lowest tier in the A-to-D loan-quality spectrum mentioned by the GM. It generally implies the highest credit risk, which can limit which lenders will fund the deal and often leads to less favorable financing terms.
desking tool
"If you don't want to use our desking tool, you sort of soft shoot us into it. Now we use their desking tool on almost everything, but initially that I was concerned about that."
A “desking tool” is a computer system dealerships use to set up financing deals. It helps figure out lender options and payment structures so the paperwork can be submitted correctly.
A “desking tool” is software used in dealership finance to structure deals—matching a customer’s profile to lender programs, calculating payments, and generating the paperwork package. The GM is saying they initially resisted using Upstart’s tool, but later adopted it broadly.
lending institution
"in turn, over time, what we've learned is that by sending everything to them, we're getting things done that we wouldn't normally think we could get done at a traditional lending institution. I'll give you for instance, gentlemen comes in"
Here, “lending institution” just means the usual places that provide car loans, like banks or credit unions. The speaker is contrasting them with Upstart’s process.
In this context, “lending institution” means the traditional bank/credit-union style sources that fund auto loans. The GM contrasts those with Upstart’s approach, implying different speed, approval logic, or workflow.
cross shopping
"it's a no brainer for them at that point because you're seeing your customers cross shopping. [1380.5s] Correct. So. Correct. And they're not utilizing the same lending institutions that we are i.e."
Cross shopping means the customer is looking at more than one deal before they buy. For car loans, that usually means comparing interest rates and monthly payments from different places.
Cross shopping is when a buyer compares offers from multiple dealerships or lenders before deciding. In car sales, it often shows up as customers requesting different loan or lease terms after seeing competing pricing.
interest rate
"a payment that was astronomically lower than what they've been shown previously at another lender [1400.6s] or their friends because a lot of our clientele shopping groups and they've got a friend that [1407.5s] bought a car at a higher interest rate."
The interest rate is the extra cost you pay for borrowing the money to buy the car. A lower interest rate usually means a lower monthly payment.
An interest rate is the percentage cost of borrowing money for a car loan. The segment emphasizes that even a “low teen” interest rate can be dramatically different from what customers were shown elsewhere, which changes the monthly payment.
captive lender
"Other than our captive, they're our number one lender. There are a number one lender other than [1433.1s] our captives and a lot of the captive is getting because it's a subvented interest rate or lease. [1439.6s] We obviously want to be at 40% lease."
A captive lender is the financing company connected to a car brand. If you lease through that brand’s program, the deal is usually financed by the captive lender.
A captive lender is a financing company tied to a specific automaker or brand, used to fund loans and leases for that brand’s vehicles. The segment explains that leases “automatically” go to the captive lender and that it’s their number-one lender outside of other options.
lease penetration
"We obviously want to be at 40% lease. We run between 25 and 30% lease penetration. [1446.5s] So leases automatically are going to go to our captive lender."
Lease penetration means what percentage of car deals are leases. If more customers lease, the dealership is more likely to use its lease financing partner.
Lease penetration is the share (percentage) of dealership deals that are leases rather than loans. The host says they target about 40% lease and currently run 25–30%, which matters because leases can route customers to specific “captive” financing.
Digital Dealer
"This episode is brought to you by Digital Dealer. Every unworked lead, every stalled service process, [1463.5s] every ad dollar that doesn't convert is money walking off your lot."
This part is a sponsor message for Digital Dealer. It’s about tools and strategies to help dealerships turn more leads into sales and reduce wasted effort.
This segment is an advertisement for Digital Dealer, focusing on lead management and dealership operations. It claims the product helps convert leads and improve service-process efficiency.
minimum tank cars per month
"you tweaked comp plans, you set some more goals you mentioned like minimum tank cars per month. [1495.3s] That was the decision you made and various other things."
This sounds like a monthly sales/inventory target the dealership set for a certain kind of car. The idea is to make sure they have enough vehicles moving through the store each month.
“Minimum tank cars per month” appears to refer to a dealership inventory/stocking target for a specific vehicle category (likely a transcription error for “units” or “tank cars” as a local term). In dealership operations, setting a minimum monthly unit goal is a way to control throughput and sales volume.
NADA
"The other component that we moved, we changed websites. We changed websites. I went to NADA,"
NADA is an organization for car dealers. People in dealerships use it for information about the car market and how pricing trends are moving.
NADA refers to the National Automobile Dealers Association, an industry group for car dealerships. Dealership leaders often use NADA resources for market data, pricing guidance, and industry benchmarks.
Motive
"we went to Motive as our website and Motive is a little different because they're not so big yet that, hey, okay, I'm going to get experience... With Motive, I can call my rep and go, hey, I want to do this and more importantly, we have access to the backend tool"
Motive is software dealerships use to run their website and help customers shop online. The idea is to make the experience smoother and easier to manage for the dealership.
Motive is a dealership software platform used for online retailing and digital customer journeys. The host describes it as having a backend tool, AI features, and responsive support—aimed at reducing friction during the shopping and follow-up process.
backend tool
"With Motive, I can call my rep and go, hey, I want to do this and more importantly, we have access to the backend tool where we can adjust."
A backend tool is the internal control panel the dealership uses to change how its website works. Instead of submitting requests and waiting, the dealer can make changes directly.
A backend tool is the internal software interface used by the dealership to configure and manage the customer-facing website experience. In this context, it lets the dealer adjust settings rather than waiting on outside specialists.
AI component
"It has an AI component that's constantly learning. If you're shopping on our website, it'll take you back to where you left off if you want."
The AI component is software that learns from how people use the website. In this case, it can remember where you left off so you can continue shopping later.
An AI component here means the system uses machine learning to personalize or improve the online shopping flow over time. The host specifically says it “constantly” learns and can resume where a shopper left off.
marketing funnel
"...given us an opportunity to catch people higher in the funnel and given us a better opportunity to create growth. Then going down the funnel..."
A marketing funnel is just the path from “someone first hears about you” to “someone buys.” If you reach people earlier—before they’ve already looked everywhere else—you have a better chance to guide what they learn and who they contact.
A marketing funnel is the sequence of steps potential customers go through—from first noticing a brand to researching and eventually contacting or buying. In dealerships, “catching people higher in the funnel” usually means reaching them earlier (before they’ve already visited big third-party sites), so you can influence their research and decision-making sooner.
SEO
"We also went with a new SEO and SEM company... Our organic search is up over 130%... search engine optimization, our website."
SEO means making your website easier for Google to understand and more likely to show up when people search for cars or services. If it’s done well, more shoppers find you without you paying for every click.
SEO (search engine optimization) is the work of improving a website so it ranks higher in search results for relevant queries. In a dealership context, better SEO can increase organic traffic—people finding the site without paying for ads—by matching what buyers search for.
SEM
"We also went with a new SEO and SEM company that has paid massive dividends..."
SEM is paying to show up in search results—usually as ads—when people type in certain keywords. It can bring in leads faster than SEO alone.
SEM (search engine marketing) is paid promotion in search engines, typically through ads that appear for specific keywords. For dealerships, SEM is often used to drive immediate leads while SEO builds longer-term organic visibility.
organic search
"...Our organic search is up over 130%. It's a company called Zing Metrics."
Organic search is the free traffic you get when your site shows up in Google results without you paying for ads. If it’s up, more shoppers are finding you that way.
Organic search refers to website traffic that comes from unpaid search results (as opposed to paid ads). When someone says organic search is up, they mean more people are finding the site through improved rankings and relevance.
LLM
"Zing is really good at engaging AI and LLM, which is huge in our market space right now."
An LLM is a smart text engine trained on lots of writing. It can understand questions and generate helpful answers, which can make customer interactions feel more natural than basic automation.
LLM (large language model) is a type of AI trained on huge amounts of text to understand and generate language. In marketing or customer engagement, LLMs can power more natural responses—like answering questions, helping shoppers navigate inventory, or drafting personalized messaging—compared with simpler automation.
AIS
"...Zing is really good at engaging AI and LLM, which is huge in our market space right now... next step is learning where you're actually have an employee that's an AI, not a bot that's an AI."
AI here means computer software that can learn patterns and respond in smarter ways than a simple script. The point is using it to engage customers more effectively, not just running a basic automated chat.
AI (artificial intelligence) in this context refers to using machine-learning systems to improve marketing and customer engagement—such as smarter targeting, content, or conversational experiences. The speaker contrasts an “AI” employee with a “bot,” implying more advanced, human-like interaction or decision-making.
hybrid line up
"Honda's said to us that they're going to expand the hybrid line. We currently have four models."
A “hybrid line” is the lineup of cars that use two power sources—gas and electricity. The idea is to get better efficiency than a gas-only car while still being easier to live with than a fully electric car.
“Hybrid line” means the set of hybrid vehicles a manufacturer sells—cars that use both an internal-combustion engine and an electric motor/battery. Expanding the hybrid line is often a bridge strategy while EV charging infrastructure and consumer EV adoption ramp up.
EV markets
"And so for us specifically, my market where I'm at in the Central Valley, we do a lot of commuting... And so for us specifically, the EV market is there, but it's more around us."
“EV market” just means how many people in that area are buying electric cars. If the EV market is strong, the dealership has to stock and advertise more EVs to match what customers want.
“EV market” refers to the local customer demand and sales environment for electric vehicles (battery-electric cars). In dealership terms, it affects inventory planning, marketing spend, and which powertrains customers are actively shopping for.
Honda e-cars
"I was really excited about Honda's e-cars, and they were coming out. I went to the show in Chicago, and they had them there."
“Honda e-cars” means Honda’s electric car lineup. The GM liked what they saw at a show, but they think hybrids will be the bigger near-term move for their customers.
“Honda e-cars” refers to Honda’s upcoming or current lineup of electric vehicles (EVs). The GM says they were excited after seeing them at a show, but they believe Honda’s near-term strategy will lean more heavily on hybrids for many customers.
Honda Passport
"such as the pilot, the passport, the Odyssey. I mean, the passport is, for all intents and purposes, as a home run. They've knocked it out of the park."
The Honda Passport is an SUV that many people buy for commuting and family use. The GM is saying it’s doing really well and that hybridizing it (or offering hybrid versions) is part of why it’s working.
The Honda Passport is a compact-to-midsize SUV positioned between the CR-V and larger three-row models. In this segment, the GM highlights it as a standout candidate for Honda’s hybrid strategy, calling it essentially a “home run” based on sales momentum.
Honda Odyssey
"such as the pilot, the passport, the Odyssey."
The Honda Odyssey is a minivan people choose for families. In this segment, they’re talking about Honda adding hybrid versions of it.
The Honda Odyssey is Honda’s minivan, known for family-focused practicality and comfort. Here it’s mentioned as another model Honda plans to “hybridize,” meaning it’s expected to get hybrid variants as part of the brand’s electrification roadmap.
hybrid variant
"And so it's really been a home run for us. And for us to get that in a hybrid variant would be, you know, crazy."
A hybrid version uses two kinds of power: a gas engine and an electric motor. That usually helps it use less gas and can feel nicer to drive, especially in stop-and-go traffic.
A hybrid variant is a version of a vehicle that uses both an internal-combustion engine and an electric motor/battery system. The goal is typically better fuel economy and smoother low-speed driving than a purely gas model.
Honda Pilot
"And then they're going to redo the Accord. It's going to pop off, baby. Yeah, they're going to redo the pilot in the near future."
The Honda Pilot is Honda’s bigger family SUV with three rows of seats. They’re saying Honda is updating it soon, which usually means a nicer interior and newer features, and sometimes changes under the hood too.
The Honda Pilot is Honda’s midsize three-row SUV, aimed at families who need extra seating and cargo space. The host mentions getting a “redone Pilot,” which points to a refresh/new generation that typically brings updated styling, interior tech, and powertrain tuning.
Honda Accord
"And then they're going to redo the Accord. It's going to pop off, baby."
The Honda Accord is one of Honda’s most popular everyday cars. Here they’re saying Honda is updating it with a redesign, which usually means changes to the look and features, and sometimes the engine and driving feel too.
The Honda Accord is a long-running midsize sedan/coupe line from Honda, known for being a mainstream “do-it-all” car. In this segment, the GM is talking about Honda redoing the Accord, which implies a new generation with updated design and likely powertrain/tech changes.
Honda Prelude
"The new Honda Prelude is a great look in car. I was just looking at it yesterday."
The Honda Prelude is a Honda sports-coupe name that has been around for decades. Here they’re talking about the new Prelude’s styling and how some people think it’s not powerful or smooth enough, even though owners who actually bought one seem to like it.
The Honda Prelude is a classic Honda sports coupe nameplate known historically for driver-focused styling and handling. In this segment, the GM is reacting to the “new Honda Prelude” design and comparing its rear look to the Acura NSX, while also acknowledging criticisms about power and shifting.
Honda NSX
"... it yesterday. I go, you know, this looks like an NSX from behind. And I know it's got its naysayers an..."
The Honda NSX is a sports car designed for fast, exciting driving. It’s built to feel responsive and perform well, not just to get you from place to place. People mention it because it’s recognizable and has a reputation for advanced performance.
The Honda NSX is a high-performance sports car known for its advanced engineering and driver-focused design. It’s significant because it’s a halo model—something that showcases technology and performance rather than just everyday transportation. The podcast context suggests it came up visually (recognizing it from behind), which is common when discussing how distinctive the NSX looks and why it stands out to enthusiasts.
test drive
"They're just speaking about the car, the way it looks, and maybe the way they took a test drive."
A test drive is when you take a car out for a short drive before deciding to buy it. The speaker is saying some critics judge the car from a brief drive, not from living with it.
A test drive is a short, controlled driving session a customer does before buying a car to evaluate things like comfort, visibility, and how the vehicle responds. In this segment, it’s contrasted with real owner experience.
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