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The notorious London Mud Club, getting a good deal with Larry the Land Rover and why BMW power is king with Johnathan East

The notorious London Mud Club, getting a good deal with Larry the Land Rover and why BMW power is king with Johnathan East

The LRM Podcast Jul 22, 2026 48 min
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Day two of the Big Land Rover Fest at Newbury Showground kicks off with award categories and General Tires sponsorship, then dives into the off-road course—looping layouts, Eddie’s bomb hole, and how rain can turn it “completely” different. The London Mud Club takes center stage: its “authentic off-roading” Series 1 vibe, a long, complicated application process, and mud-as-credibility stories. Larry the Land Rover guest shares a deal-hunting 110 build and why BMW power is king with Jonathan East, citing M57 reliability and driveline compatibility.

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Jeep Cherokee

"We have a member who, yeah, we have a member called Johnny Fartpants who for a while drove a Jeep Cherokee. A purple. A purple Jeep Cherokee."

The Jeep Cherokee is a popular SUV model from Jeep. In this segment, it’s just an example of what one member used to drive.

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David Maker

"Yes, David Maker put together an ex-ministry 110."

They’re naming the person who built the Land Rover. It’s relevant because it gives you context for who did the work and why the car is considered well put together.

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ex-ministry 110

"Yes, David Maker put together an ex-ministry 110. And 2.8."

“Ex-ministry” means it used to belong to a government fleet. So this Land Rover started life as a practical work vehicle, not a private owner’s car.

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straight six engine

"Three liter. Straight six. Straight six BMW engine."

“Straight six” means the engine has six cylinders in a single line. They’re saying it’s a BMW engine, which matters because it’s a swap that can make the Land Rover feel smoother and more capable.

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get muddy

"But basically, we like to get muddy. [839.7s] And as Conrad said yesterday, you said just now, [842.5s] use the landrovers for what they were meant to do, which is get muddy."

“Get muddy” just means driving in conditions where the car will pick up dirt and mud. In this context, they’re saying they actually use their Land Rovers for that kind of terrain.

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novelty tires

"Okay, I've stuck some novelty tires on it. But I've got a 500 quid Land Rover."

“Novelty tires” usually means tires that aren’t the usual everyday type. They’re often picked to help the car grip better for the kind of driving you’re doing.

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Land Rover Freelander

"And I think the fact that I drive around in a 500 quid Freelander kind of makes that point loud and clear at the start."

The Land Rover Freelander is a smaller Land Rover SUV that’s meant to handle rough roads but is easier to live with than the larger Land Rovers. Here, they’re pointing out that you can enjoy Land Rover ownership even if you buy one for relatively little money.

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Land Rover ownership

"And you're having probably equal amounts of fun at different price points in Land Rover ownership. Steve, absolutely."

They’re talking about what it’s like to own a Land Rover—how people can enjoy the brand whether they keep it mostly original or modify it. The episode’s message is that you can have fun at different budgets.

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CD player

"It's got air conditioning and a CD player, and it's relatively comfortable."

A CD player is the car’s stereo part that plays music from CDs. Older cars may have it built in, while others might not, depending on the version.

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air conditioning (AC)

"It's got air conditioning and a CD player, and it's relatively comfortable."

Air conditioning is what cools the inside of the car and helps keep the cabin comfortable. In older vehicles, it’s sometimes not present or not working, so it’s worth noting when it is.

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lift blocks

"It had a two-inch lift kit and then it had three-inch blocks on it."

Lift blocks are spacers that put extra height under the suspension. They can make the vehicle sit higher, but if you go too much, it can feel wobbly and less controlled on the road.

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lift kit

"It had a two-inch lift kit and then it had three-inch blocks on it."

A lift kit is a set of parts that raises a vehicle higher off the ground. People do it for off-road clearance or bigger tires, but it can make the car feel less stable when driving normally.

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precarious

"I'd imagine five inches of lift on a 90 would be quite precarious."

Here, “precarious” means it felt unsafe or hard to control. When you lift a vehicle a lot, it can become more wobbly and less steady, especially when turning.

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Toyota A90

"Probably for the best, to be honest. I'd imagine five inches of lift on a 90 would be quite precarious. It was bad enough being on the back of a trailer, to be honest."

The Toyota Supra is a sports car made for fast driving and good handling. In the podcast, it’s brought up in connection with how a car can feel unstable if it’s lifted too high or moved in a way that changes its balance.

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five-inch lift

"Like, I daily mine and I couldn't daily it with a five-inch lift. It just seems ridiculous."

A “lift” means raising the car higher off the ground. A five-inch lift is a big height increase, usually to clear bigger tires and handle rough terrain better, but it can make the ride and everyday use worse.

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36.5-inch extreme tyres

"As someone who's fitted 36.5-inch extreme tyres to their 19 the past, when, you know, youth gets the better of you, I can confirm they're not really designed to go to and from work and like ferry people around"

Those are huge off-road tires (36.5 inches tall). They’re made for rough terrain, not for smooth daily commuting—so they can be loud and less comfortable for everyday driving.

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green-laner

"So you kind of dialed it back a little bit and is it like a green-laner kind of camping setup now? Yeah."

A “green-laner” is someone who drives on legal off-road tracks in the UK (often called green lanes). It’s basically off-roading that’s allowed by the rules, not random trespassing.

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green lanes

"I've not been able to green-lane it as much recently, but I've sort of built it so that it will do a bit of both."

“Green-lane” means driving on legal off-road tracks in the UK. It’s off-roading, but usually on routes that are permitted and meant for vehicles like 4x4s.

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roll cage

"I put a roll cage in it, you know, because why the hell not? Because I think it just sort of..."

A roll cage is a strong metal safety frame inside the vehicle. It helps protect you if the car flips or crashes hard, and it’s often used on off-road or track-style builds.

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camping setup

"So you were telling us a little bit earlier about the camping setup because you're here with your family. You've got a roof tent on your 90 but also you've extended it."

A camping setup is the way you arrange your camping gear so your vehicle can work like a base. Here it’s roof sleeping plus extra covered space for the family.

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roof tent

"You've got a roof tent on your 90 but also you've extended it. It's like a house extension with an awning on the side."

A roof tent is a tent that sits on top of your car and pops up when you park. It gives you a raised place to sleep instead of sleeping on the ground.

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awning

"It's like a house extension with an awning on the side. How do you find that?"

An awning is a cover that sticks out to make shade and shelter. It helps you sit outside without getting rained on or baked in the sun.

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Land Rover 110
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Land Rover 110

"Yeah, what's next for you then with your Land Rover? ... Well, I've got another one at home. Have you? ... So I've got a 110 utility at home which I'm planning to convert into a county station wagon."

A Land Rover 110 is a longer-wheelbase version of the Defender-style Land Rover. Longer wheelbase usually means more room for passengers or cargo, which is why people use them for utility and conversions.

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county station wagon

"So I've got a 110 utility at home which I'm planning to convert into a county station wagon."

A “county station wagon” is basically a more comfortable, passenger-focused version of a Land Rover—closer to a regular family wagon than a stripped-down work truck. The idea is to make it nicer for everyday driving.

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utility

"So I've got a 110 utility at home which I'm planning to convert into a county station wagon."

“Utility” here means it’s set up more like a work vehicle than a comfortable passenger car. It’s the kind of Land Rover you’d start with if you want to modify it into something more personal or family-friendly.

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110 double cab

"And you're here today with your, this weekend in fact, with your lovely 110 double cab. [1954.5s] Yeah, so that's my personal dream Defender build, which is just a great all-rounder."

A Land Rover Defender 110 is the longer version of the Defender. “Double cab” means it has more seats in the back, so it’s not just a bare cargo setup—it can carry people and still be used for camping and off-road fun.

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dual carriageway

"The dog can go in the back and it's still fast enough to beat most things down the dual-carriage way. "

A dual-carriageway is a highway with separate lanes for each direction, separated by a barrier in the middle. The point here is that the Defender can still keep up with normal road driving, not just crawling off-road.

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eight-speed automatic

"BMW engine and eight-speed box. Yeah, so it's M57 twin-turbo, eight-speed auto, and that is the best part about it."

This is an automatic gearbox with eight gears. More gears usually means the engine can run in a better “sweet spot,” which can make the car feel smoother and more responsive.

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M57 twin-turbo

"Yeah, so it's M57 twin-turbo, eight-speed auto, and that is the best part about it."

The BMW M57 is a diesel engine. “Twin-turbo” means it has two turbochargers that help it make more power and pull harder, especially at lower speeds—useful in a heavy vehicle like a Defender.

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TD5

"A lot of people converting even TD5s and things like that to run them. Yeah, I've had quite a few people inquire about TD5s and eight HPs this weekend."

TD5 is a specific diesel engine used in the Land Rover Defender. People mention it because it’s a common starting point before doing an engine swap or upgrade.

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M57 setup

"Would you say the M57 setup is the ultimate engine for a Defender?"

Here, “setup” means the whole conversion package—engine plus the parts needed to make it work together. The question is whether that full BMW swap works best in a Defender.

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engine variants of engine

"I've had all Defender variants of engine. The 606 I did was 400 horsepower and I had it in there for two weeks before I removed it for a 300 TDI."

They’re talking about trying different engines in the same Defender. The point is that the engine choice can completely change how the truck feels and how dependable it is.

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606

"The 606 I did was 400 horsepower and I had it in there for two weeks before I removed it for a 300 TDI."

“606” is shorthand for a Mercedes diesel engine (OM606). People swap it into Defenders because it can make strong torque and power for a diesel.

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300 TDI

"The 606 I did was 400 horsepower and I had it in there for two weeks before I removed it for a 300 TDI. Really? I removed it for a 300 TDI."

The 300 TDI is a diesel engine that was used in Defenders. It’s often chosen because it’s generally considered more straightforward and easier to live with than newer, more complex diesels.

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six speed

"I have driven a few, not with the eight-speed, with the older six-speed, and the manual one as well."

A six-speed gearbox has fewer gear ratios than an eight-speed. They’re comparing it to show how the car’s response and “feel” changes with different transmissions.

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OM

"And I have to say, what I always found with the OM, and it's nothing against anyone that's done it, but it really lacks low down when you put it away."

“OM” is a Mercedes diesel engine family. They’re saying it didn’t have much low-end pull, so you had to rev it more to get the power you wanted.

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torque

"I'm running more torque in the M57 than I have in the OM6O build, but I haven't broken any drive-like components."

Torque is the engine’s “twisting grunt.” More torque usually means the car can pull strongly at low speeds—useful for mud, hills, and slow technical driving.

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water pump

"I've done 45,000 miles now and only had to change the oil and a water pump."

The water pump moves coolant around to keep the engine from overheating. They’re saying it was one of the few repairs they’ve needed.

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oil

"I've done 45,000 miles now and only had to change the oil and a water pump."

Oil is what keeps the engine parts from grinding against each other. They’re saying they’ve only needed normal oil changes so far.

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alternator

"I mean, I did kill the alternator building in the mudrun, but that's not really down to the part failing. That's more me getting stuck in the mud for a few minutes."

The alternator charges the battery and powers the car’s electrical system. They’re saying mud conditions can overwhelm or damage it during a mudrun.

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standalone controller

"That was with a Merc Auto, which had a standalone controller and actually had a Thrustmaster PC gaming simulator shifter."

A standalone controller is a separate computer that runs part of the car. In a swap, it helps the transmission or engine behave correctly even if the wiring isn’t stock.

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Thrustmaster

"and actually had a Thrustmaster PC gaming simulator shifter."

Thrustmaster makes gaming controllers. They’re jokingly describing using a gaming shifter as a real-world gear selector input.

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shockloaded the transmission

"So it was the auto box that had to be manually shifted and being a mechanical pump and a much older auto box, it just shockloaded the transmission so badly every time we changed gear and it just absolutely ruined the drive line."

“Shockloading” is when a car part gets hit with a sudden jolt of force. Here, the gearbox/shift behavior made those jolts happen every time they changed gear, which can be really hard on the drivetrain.

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conversions

"Like conversions have always been a bit of a passion of mine. It's, I find it fascinating because I know I personally couldn't do it."

“Conversions” here means taking a vehicle and changing its main mechanical parts—like putting a different engine/gearbox into it. It’s a big job that can take lots of time and testing to make everything work together.

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eight speeds

"I mean, it's like with the eight speeds. They don't even bolt up to the M57s. You've got to adapt all of that."

“Eight speeds” means the gearbox has eight different gear ratios. More gears can help the engine stay in the right spot, but it can be harder to fit into an older vehicle because the parts and electronics may not match.

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AHP

"But I think an M57 and the AHP is the ultimate usable combo in a Defender."

“AHP” is a code name for a particular gearbox/parts combination used in these swaps. The host is saying that pairing it with the BMW M57 diesel makes for a setup that works well in a Defender.

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triple locked

"You know, it's triple locked and it does get used and abused."

“Triple locked” refers to a Land Rover-style drivetrain setup where three different locking functions are engaged to maximize traction. Typically, that means locking the center differential and both axles, so the vehicle can keep moving even when wheels lose grip.

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auto box

"It's just always in the right gear and the auto box has become such a long way now."

“Auto box” just means an automatic gearbox. Instead of you changing gears, the car does it for you, which can help when driving off-road.

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manual transmission

"I don't think if I was to buy a modern car now, I would opt for any sort of manual transmission because we are as a nation getting lazy, aren't we?"

A manual transmission means you choose the gears yourself using a clutch pedal and a gear stick. They’re debating whether that’s worth it compared with an automatic.

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Range Rover

"I mean, it always confuses me when I see people driving a Range Rover that's got a vocal saying, you've got a manual one and you've got a Range Rover and you've got to change gear yourself."

Range Rover is a luxury SUV made by Land Rover. Here, they’re talking about whether a manual or automatic gearbox makes more sense when you’re driving off-road.

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gearboxes and engines

"How do you go about sourcing good donors for these gearboxes and engines?"

They’re talking about the big mechanical parts that make a car move: the engine and the gearbox. The idea is to find good used donor parts to replace worn units.

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eBay

"So there's a company that sells a lot on eBay, Global Water Parts. They're really reputable and they warranty their gearboxes."

eBay is a website where people buy and sell used items, including car parts. Here it’s mentioned as a place to find donor parts for repairs.

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Global Water Parts

"So there's a company that sells a lot on eBay, Global Water Parts. They're really reputable and they warranty their gearboxes."

Global Water Parts is a seller the host mentions for used parts. They say the company is reputable and warranties its gearbox sales, which can reduce risk when buying used.

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mileage

"Right. You get all the information of the cars and pulled out of the mileage, stuff like that."

“Mileage” here just means how much the car has been driven. Higher mileage usually means more wear, so it helps them judge what parts are still in good shape.

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donor cars

"And then for the donor cars, we will just buy like this. Depends really what the customer wants to do."

A “donor car” is basically a second car they buy just to take parts from. They can check the engine works first, then use it in the customer’s vehicle.

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200 TDI

"I mean, you might well have heard my chronicles of my 200 TDI, but even M57s, they're all 20-ish years old now, aren't they?"

“200 TDI” is a Land Rover diesel engine (a specific model of engine). They’re using it as an example of an older engine that people keep running by swapping parts or replacing the engine.

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ECU

"My ECU, we checked... Wow, me and my friend Harry were playing around with a map at Billing."

The ECU is the engine’s computer. It controls how the engine runs, and reading its data helps them see whether the engine has been behaving properly.

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map

"Wow, me and my friend Harry were playing around with a map at Billing. And we looked at the ECU info and it was on over 500,000 miles."

A “map” is the engine computer’s settings. It tells the ECU how to run the engine in different situations, and changing it can change how the car feels.

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engine rebuild

"They do last, but a rebuild is always going to be nice. And, you know, you use that way, you've got the peace of mind as well."

An engine rebuild means taking the engine apart and replacing or fixing the worn internal parts. It’s like a “major refresh” so the engine runs better and more reliably again.

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green laning

"One thing I do enjoy about what you do is you go green-laning. Or go and help out on some land or whatever and absolutely coat the Land Rover in."

Green-laning is when people drive off-road on rural dirt tracks and lanes. It’s a common hobby for 4x4 owners, but it can raise questions about protecting the land and whether access is allowed.

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KM3s

"Because you used to have big KM3s on it, didn't you? Yeah. BFG, if you're watching, can you please bring those back?"

KM3s are a type of off-road tire meant for muddy, rough trails. The speaker liked them because they work well when you’re getting the vehicle really dirty off-road.

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BFG

"Because you used to have big KM3s on it, didn't you? Yeah. BFG, if you're watching, can you please bring those back?"

BFG is a tire brand (BFGoodrich). They make off-road tires, and the host is saying the specific tires they liked were discontinued.

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400 horsepower

"But yeah, I mean, like you say, use it hard, use it. Yeah, I will use all 400 horsepower. And then give it to someone to clean it up."

Horsepower is a number that tells you how strong the engine is. If someone says they’ll use all 400 horsepower, they mean they’re going to push the car hard.

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clutch

"To be fair to the one I saw, actually it transpires that the clutch had gone on a Freelander, making it just a sort of two-wheel drive."

A clutch is a mechanical part that helps transfer power from the engine to the rest of the drivetrain. If it fails, the car may not be able to send power to the wheels the way it normally should—especially important for getting traction off-road.

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two-wheel drive

"actually it transpires that the clutch had gone on a Freelander, making it just a sort of two-wheel drive."

Two-wheel drive means only two wheels get the engine’s power. If you’re stuck in deep mud, that usually makes it harder to get moving again because you have less grip.

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series two

"I've got a series two and A. [2564.2s] Good stuff for what sort of thing."

The Series II is an older Land Rover model that’s built for tough, off-road use. Here it’s being set up with practical changes so it can be driven daily.

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Defender

"I actually had to jumpstart the Defender [2581.8s] because I got home from billing, left the fridge plugged in,"

The Defender is Land Rover’s rugged off-road vehicle. In this story, it wouldn’t start because something (a fridge) was left plugged in, so it needed a jumpstart.

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Isle of Wight

"So yeah, the speed limit on the Isle of Wight is 45, is it? ... So obviously, you have to battle the ferry crossings."

The Isle of Wight is an island near the south coast of England. They’re talking about driving there and how the ferry trip affects the timing and cost.

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