The Pits Are Open | Indy 500 Recap, McLaren Hospitality & Kevin Krauss
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Ford Ranger
The Ford Ranger is a pickup truck, meaning it has a cargo bed in the back for hauling things. It’s designed to be useful for work or errands while still being easier to drive than larger trucks. People talk about it because it’s a common, practical truck option.
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Lap 18
A “lap” is one complete circuit of the track, and “Lap 18” pinpoints the timing of an incident during the race. Using lap numbers helps fans and broadcasters reference exactly when something happened relative to the race’s total distance.
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Ryan Hunter Ray
Ryan Hunter-Reay is a professional IndyCar driver. In this story, he’s the driver involved in a big crash on lap 18.
Term
spun out
“Spun out” means the car loses grip and rotates uncontrollably, often ending up facing a different direction than intended. In racing, it’s a common precursor to a crash because the driver can’t maintain the planned line through the turn.
Person
Takuma Sato
Takuma Sato is a professional IndyCar driver. The hosts are describing an incident where he squeezed another car and later said he didn’t realize it was alongside.
Term
lap 150
Lap 150 is a specific stage of the race. The point is that the driver was doing well for a long stretch before the damage happened.
Term
side pod
A side pod is the aerodynamic bodywork on the side of an IndyCar that houses key components (like cooling and sometimes intake-related hardware) and shapes airflow around the car. In the segment, Ed Carpenter punctured/damaged Mikhail Oloshin’s side pod, which can hurt aerodynamics and cooling efficiency.
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duct tape
They used duct tape as a quick, temporary fix to keep the damaged car running. It’s the kind of patch you do just to limp back out, not to truly fix the problem.
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Race was official at that point
“Official” means the race results start counting once enough of the race distance has been completed. If the race ends early after that point, the results are still considered valid.
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raindrops
Raindrops mean the track is getting wet. Wet conditions make the car harder to control, so drivers have to adjust their driving and the team may change strategy.
Person
Joseph Newgarden
Joseph Newgarden is a professional IndyCar driver. Here, the hosts are talking about a crash he had during the Indy 500 and what caused it.
Term
rumble strip
A rumble strip is a rough, grooved strip on the track. If a race car hits it, the vibration and grip change can throw the car off balance.
Person
Alexander Rossi
Alexander Rossi is a professional IndyCar driver. The hosts mention him because he was hurt in an earlier crash and they’re comparing what happened to his injuries.
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Fast Friday
Fast Friday is a special high-speed practice day during the Indy 500. Teams push hard to get the car dialed in, so accidents can happen.
Term
yellow
“Yellow” means the race is under caution because something happened on the track. Everyone has to slow down and follow rules, and that can completely change what teams do next.
Person
Felix Rosenquist
Felix Rosenqvist is a race driver in IndyCar. In this story, he was leading late, but the race events changed the outcome possibilities.
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red flagged
A red flag means the race is stopped for safety. Cars have to stop, and teams get a chance to regroup before they restart.
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warming back up
After a stop, tires and brakes cool down. The restart period is used to get them hot again so the car grips and stops the way it should.
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one-lap shootout
A “one-lap shootout” means the race is basically decided at the very end, over just the last lap. With so little time left, drivers and teams have to make their moves immediately.
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David Maluchus
David Maluchus is another IndyCar driver mentioned as being in the lead late. The host is saying his car was extremely fast all day, which made the final finish dramatic.
Person
Armstrong
Armstrong is another IndyCar driver in the same close fight. The host mentions him because he’s right next to Rosenquist during the key moments.
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weaving
Weaving is when a driver moves the car slightly left and right. It’s a tactic to make it harder for the other car to get a good aerodynamic “slot” to run in.
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draft
Draft is when one race car follows closely behind another. The air behind the lead car is “easier” to push through, so the trailing car can go faster and try to pass.
Term
deploy
“Deploy” means the driver is triggering a boost system at the right time. The car releases stored energy to help with acceleration when it matters.
Term
electrical charge
The “electrical charge” is energy stored in the car. When the team tells the driver to deploy it, the car uses that stored energy to help it go faster.
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turn two
“Turn two” means a specific corner on the track. When something happens there—like a crash—it affects what drivers can see and how the race changes right after.
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infield
The “infield” is the space inside the race track. Teams use it as a hub for getting cars and people to the garage area.
Term
Sprinter vans
“Sprinter vans” are passenger vans used to move people around. Here, they’re being used to shuttle guests to the track’s inner area and team garages.
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garage area
The “garage area” is where teams keep the cars and work on them. It’s basically the team’s working zone during the event.
Topic
Indie 500
The Indy 500 is a huge American race where cars race around an oval track for 500 miles. The hosts are saying it’s doing really well and attracting more people.
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going back to the basics
They’re basically saying, “Don’t overcomplicate it.” If something is already working, don’t change it just for the sake of change—make small tweaks instead.
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new car coming up
They’re talking about an upcoming generation of race cars. The idea is that new technology could make the racing better, but you still shouldn’t disrupt what’s already working.
Topic
NASCAR
NASCAR is a major U.S. racing series, mostly on oval tracks, with a huge fanbase. The hosts are suggesting Indy could learn from or partner with NASCAR to grow interest.
Topic
IMSA
IMSA is a big U.S. sports-car racing series, often involving longer races. The hosts are bringing it up as an example of another racing world Indy could connect with.
Topic
Indie Car series
IndyCar is the main racing series for open-wheel cars in the U.S. The Indy 500 is the biggest race within that world, and the hosts are saying some new fans haven’t followed it before.
Term
green
“Green” is when racing resumes normally and cars can go back to full speed. It’s the opposite of caution.
Concept
stage racing
Stage racing breaks a race into sections, and drivers can earn points at the end of each section. It can change how people drive because they’re thinking about those stage results.
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fuel save mode
Fuel-save mode is when drivers have to drive more gently to make their fuel last. It’s a strategy teams use so they can still finish strong without running out of gas.
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pace car
A pace car is a car that leads the race during caution so everyone slows down safely. It keeps the cars spaced until racing can restart.
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safer wall
A safer wall is a type of energy-absorbing crash barrier designed to reduce forces on drivers during impacts. It’s engineered to help protect cars and drivers compared with older, more rigid barriers.
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bunched up restart
A bunched up restart means the cars are packed closely together when they start racing again. That can make restarts more chaotic and risky.
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caution
A caution is when the race slows down because something unsafe happened on track. Drivers have to go slower until officials clear the problem, and the race restarts afterward.
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fence was compromised
When the track barrier/fence is “compromised,” it means it’s damaged or no longer able to safely contain a car. In that case, race control may escalate from caution to a red flag because the risk of another car breaching the barrier is higher.
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Hey, everybody. Pits it open. Willem Roddy, your host, Alex Smith,
our resident Formula One expert and engineer.
Speaking of, I see some McLaren Orange.
They didn't do too well this weekend, but what's up with the orange shirt?
I'm glad you asked.
We will be talking about this at length with a guest at the bottom of the hour,
but I will give you a little hint that I had the most amazing time at the Indianapolis 500.
I was asked to host one of McLaren's hospitality suites.
The Tower Terrace suites are beautiful.
They are looking at the pits.
The Tower Terrace were the last two suites coming into Pit Lane,
and it was phenomenal. All McLaren sponsors, driver family, friends.
It was an amazing opportunity. I'm so grateful.
Actually, the person we're having at the bottom of the hour, Kevin Cross,
he was the originator of the idea.
He was busy working as well, and it was an amazing time.
Amazing time. I haven't had anything like this before.
I had to get up super early.
Now, I've been going there for so long.
I realized last year, I'm not the brightest bulb on the street,
I realized last year that driving your car into the parking,
even though we have always good parking passes, is just not a good idea,
because it generally takes you no matter where you are.
If you have a car, it's going to generally take you two hours to get outside of the track
and into the neighborhoods.
And again, the neighborhoods are old.
They're not set up for traffic, and so it's at least another hour, hour and a half
while you're trying to maneuver through the neighborhoods.
So it could be a 33 and a half hour ordeal to try to get out of the race
when it's over.
So I learned last year it was better to walk in, because I stay so close to the track.
And so I walked in last year, walked out about half the time.
So I said, okay, now I've got to be there extra early.
I've got to be in the suite.
I want to be there at 7.15.
So that means I'm going to have to walk, you know, all the way in,
few, several miles out to walk in.
So I started at 6.30.
No, I started at 6.15 walking, and I got to the suite actually at 7 o'clock.
It was amazing.
And then the same thing, they wanted me to stay half an hour after the race,
because I always leave after the race.
I get my flight out immediately as soon as possible.
I don't want to be home the next day.
And so I had to stay half an hour after the race,
but then the race was delayed because of rain, which we're going to talk about.
And so I ended up leaving late, but I made it to the airport with 20 minutes to spare.
So praise God, it was wonderful.
And I got home.
But it was one of the most, I was so honored.
You know, I mentioned Alex earlier, 350,000 people at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway,
and only two, as far as I know, only two were hosting McLaren hospitality suites.
And that would be our guest at the bottom of the hour, myself.
So it was a wonderful, we'll talk a lot more about it.
The race was, oh, many people have said, and I think it's true, it was a race for the ages.
It was remarkable in the sense that we did have some rain delay,
but it was extremely short-lived, and we were able to get on with the race.
And I gotta tell you this, folks, if you've never been to the Indianapolis 500,
now I'm assuming because you're watching the show on Speed Sport,
I'm assuming that you are a racing fan of some sort.
Maybe you're a driver, team manager, team owner, parent of a driver, whatever,
or just a fan, you love racing.
I gotta tell you, you owe it to yourself if you've not gone to at least one time in your life,
go to the Indianapolis 500.
There is nothing like it.
It is the most amazing place.
Speedway, Indiana, the home of the Indianapolis Motor Speedway,
probably has, on average, I don't know, 13 or 14,000 residents.
But in May, that balloons up to nearly a half a million people
between the Grand Prix qualifying and the race, and of course, 350,000.
Another sold-out year, two years in a row now,
that the television blackout was lifted in the greater Indianapolis area.
That hadn't happened, the last time it happened was 2016, for the 100th running of the 500.
So I gotta say, I think one of the greatest things IndyCar has done in a long time
is bring on Fox as an official partner.
Fox bought in, owns about a third of the series, I think a third of the track now with Penske Entertainment.
One of the most brilliant things they've ever done, because Fox knows how to get it done.
The name is Penske Entertainment, but Fox is really an entertainment corporation.
That's what they do, and they have done such a marvelous...
Oh, and Will Buxton, who is the call announcer,
I literally bump face-to-face into Will as I was getting ready to head to the suite.
And we talked for a brief moment until my name was Will.
His name was Will, it was fun.
Will Squared.
It was Will Squared, exactly.
So it was a great, gosh, it was just a great time.
So much to talk about.
I had the privilege of going to an unveiling of sorts on Saturday of last week,
the day before the race.
My good friend, Mike Lashman, who's been on our program, he's the president of Vintage Indy.
And they have a collection of almost 200, I guess,
pristinely restored IndyCars from the 30s all the way through the early 2000s.
And they were unveiling a restoration of a 1991 Lola
that Michael Andretti had driven to win the championship that year,
and the car was magnificent.
And it was a wonderful time, and got to see a lot of folks.
Got to see Ralph Shaheen from Speed Sport Ralph was there,
and his son Lucas was there, and so we got to chat for a while.
Gosh, it was just a great day.
But really, one of the greatest honors in at least my motorsports career
was representing McLaren.
And what a fun time.
What a fun time, meeting with sponsors and friends and family.
Now, the crowd was heavily pato weighted.
And I would say the next largest segment was Nolan Siegel weighted,
and then Ryan Hunter Ray, and very few that I met anyway, Christian Lungard folks.
So you can imagine when the race was over, the majority crowd was just not even unhappy.
I would say the only thing I could compare it to is like soccer,
where people get so emotionally wound up about it.
I mean, there's literally tears, there's crying.
And I gained a new respect, I have to say, I gained a new respect for a pato award.
You've got to be somebody, and he is as a personality,
you've got to be so amazing to get those kinds of, that number of people committed to you in that way,
that they would cry that you lost.
I would only cry if I lost.
Anyway, hey, we're going to take a quick break for a moment, a little commercial endorsement here,
and then we'll be back, and we're going to do a recap for you.
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Holy cow, Batman, IHRA has been growing by leaps and bounds.
They've started their own stock car series.
They have unlimited hydroplane boat racing.
They've purchased, gosh, it seems like 9 or 10 drag strip racing facilities.
Man, they are going at it with a vengeance and really growing, and I'm so grateful for our good friend,
Deena Parisi, who is the 2015 IHRA Pro Mod World Champion.
She's making a comeback, and she's really enjoying what's going on with the IHRA.
You know, I'll just say again, Indy is something you really need to participate in,
maybe bucket list kind of a thing.
There's nothing like, listen, I live in Connecticut.
My son and I love hockey. We go to a lot of Hartford Wolfpack games.
They are the New York Ranger affiliate.
But Connecticut and Indiana are two different places by cavern distance.
For instance, they're getting ready to do taps.
It's Memorial Day weekend, and they ask you to stand, move your cap, moment of silence.
It's the craziest thing. You're in a sea of 350,000 people, larger than most cities that any of us live in.
And it's like you could hear a pin drop. People respect those moments in Indiana.
And then, you know, the national anthem, Back Home Again in Indiana.
It's such an emotional thing. I mean, they were singing Back Home Again in Indiana.
This is my story, true story.
So there was another woman, a team up there, who was representing, they managed brands and sponsors.
And they were up there. It's probably four or five of those folks.
And Back Home Again was playing, and I get emotional with it.
So I just lifted my sunglasses for a moment to wipe some tears when it just happened to glance over.
And the woman next to me was also crying.
And we instinctively just came over and hugged each other because we were crying.
And I mean, it has that kind of emotional pull.
And there's a lot of wet eyes during those times, national anthem, Back Home Again in Indiana.
So it's an amazing time. It's
I just want to say, please, please, please do all you can.
If you can, go to the Indianapolis 500. You will not be disappointed at all.
I want to do a little recap for you because it was a fantastic race, one of the best races I've seen ever.
My first race, 1982, so I've been going for a little bit.
And we got some video on the show here.
The first one, this race started, it was a great start. Everything was going great.
Lap 18, we had our first incident.
And I'll tell you why it was so personal to me when it happened.
Lap 18, a veteran of the circuit, Ryan Hunter Ray, just lost it by himself, lost it, spun out, ended up hitting the wall.
But the people in the booth that I think everybody, all of us, what we saw first was Catherine Legg's car.
And we thought it might have been Catherine Legg.
Hey, Alex, let's go to that clip.
It was an amazing occurrence.
So here you see the smoke there, and you see that car sliding across.
That was Catherine Legg, but look up to the upper left-hand side wall there.
That was Ryan Hunter Ray, and he just lost it.
He lost it completely.
And thank goodness, Catherine Legg had the ability to immediately, and again, she couldn't see what was going on because there was all smoke around her.
So she cut hard left, and literally, by just feet, missed T-boning Ryan Hunter Ray, and really ruining her own race to maybe save injury for Ryan.
So hats off to Catherine Legg.
Ryan Hunter Ray, you have to wonder if he'll ever be back.
You know, there's, I love Ryan, but listen, time gets all of us in the end.
He's a champion.
He won the 500.
He's won championships, but maybe that was his last.
Now, let me tell you what's so personal.
So I'm up in McLaren Hospitality, and one of the companies that's represented there is a massive logistics company called GXO, and they were a primary sponsor, apparently, for Ryan's car.
And I was with several of their executives, and you could feel the, ugh, when Ryan hit the wall and was out of the race.
I tried to, I consoled them, but I have to say, they stayed the whole time.
They could have left at that point.
Their guy was out, but they didn't, they stayed for the whole rest of the race and had great attitudes.
And so I want to say, I want to, cheers to the, cheers to the GXO people doing a great job.
And I fell bad for Katherine Lake because it messed up.
Now she, you know, couldn't do the double.
I mean, she still went and ran at Charlotte, but I mean, to do the double, you have to finish both races and compete both races.
And so she got 18 laps in the 500.
All right.
So as time was going along, we had yet another significant crash, and this time was Ed Carpenter.
And Ed is a fan of favorite, driven many, many times.
He's already said, in fact, at the banquet, apparently, I didn't see him say that.
I was watching the banquet, but apparently he said to someone he would be back next year.
So we had a little incident.
Alex, let's, let's cue this up.
He had a little accident with Ed Carpenter.
There you see the car after the carnage.
What happened was Ed was, was driving and, and Sato, Takuma Sato kind of, kind of pinched him a little bit.
And Ed had nowhere to go.
And Sato later admitted he didn't know he was there.
And Ed was quite upset about it.
Ed was very upset about it and got out in the track and pointed to Sato.
It was kind of Alan Cerish, you know, back in the day, pointed to Sato as he went by.
And as it turned out, I almost wanted to post this on social media.
And I wanted to say, how does that feel, Ed?
Because in 2017, when we were with Schmidt-Petersen Motorsports, Marty Osport, we had sponsored,
portion sponsored the car driven by the mad Russian Mikhail Oloshin.
And Mikhail was in a top 10 all day until about lap 150.
And sure enough, Ed came down, Ed came down and really punctured, damaged Mikhail Oloshin's side pod.
And Mikhail came in, we tried to cover it with duct tape, but the arrow of the car was so ruined.
He still finished, I think, 12th.
So it wasn't a horrible time, but I felt like, how'd that feel, Ed?
I didn't remember that from 2017, but I didn't.
So as things went on, about 100, I guess, 106, 107 laps.
Race was official at that point.
Over 100, 101, more than halfway is official, 200 laps total.
And we started feeling the raindrops.
And you know what?
It wasn't really like a downpour to the whole track.
It was raining more in certain areas of track, but they brought the yellow flag out.
And right after that, hey, you know what, Alex, let's hang on there for a minute.
We're going to take a break and we'll come back to this way after the break.
You know, two years ago, we had a massive rain delay.
I think it was like six hours.
I don't know what it was.
I don't think we finished the race to like six o'clock, seven o'clock that night for yet.
So rain has never welcomed that Indianapolis.
And of course, they can't drive with these cars and these tires in rain.
If it was road course tires, rain tires you could, but they couldn't do this.
And so the rain came and as it came down, you know, we were getting ready to settle in for quite a delay,
but thank God it was a relatively short rain delay.
It was not a long rain delay, but you know, it changes.
It changes the dynamic of what's going on because now you've got the cars that are used to a track surface
at a certain temperature, rain cools it down a little bit.
Sometimes if it rains enough, I don't think it did.
It kind of cleans the track.
Some of the rubber gets kind of pushed off, cleaned off a little bit.
I don't know if that was the reason for what we'll show you when we get back,
but we had yet another crash after the rain delay.
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So rain came and rain stopped, track was dried, restart happens, and this happened at lap 126.
Now, some people are questioning whether or not Joseph Newgarden will be signed again to Penske.
Joseph has not had a good run.
He went back to back.
Since that time, he has not had good success in IndyCar, and you know how Penske is.
They cut power out and signed up David Malukas, which, oh, by the way, probably wasn't a bad signing,
but they don't waste time.
When they think they've extracted the most they could out of their driver, they move along.
So this is what happened around, I think it was lap 126.
Let's see that, the Joseph Newgarden crash.
Yes, sir.
That's what I think.
Let's see what happens here.
I think we'll see it at the end.
What we'll see is, okay, so he's already up against the wall.
This came, this happened in turn four, and it was a hard hit.
Joseph hit very, very hard.
In fact, here he is.
So he's coming through the corner, and in the bottom of the corner, there's almost like a rumble strip of concrete.
And if you hit that, you're tired too much on it.
It really can destabilize the car.
Watch this.
He comes in, he gets down low enough.
Yes, he hits that rumble strip.
Boom.
Oh, hard hit into turn four.
And so much so that he hurt himself, and we saw him yesterday walking around with a boot similar to Alexander Rossi.
And by the way, is there a greater hero than Alexander Rossi?
Here he is hurt.
He got tremendous crash.
And on Fast Friday, we had no incidents at the track prior to that.
We had a huge crash on Fast Friday with Alexander Rossi, and he hurt his wrist and his ankle, and it was his right foot.
It was his gas foot, and he still competed and did a great job.
So we really admire and appreciate Alexander Rossi.
And Joseph's okay, but he had the boot on, so we'll see if he makes it back into Detroit.
Now, the race progresses, and it starts turning into a fuel battle, and it was primarily a fuel battle between two cars.
It was primarily between Felix Rosenquist and Pato Award.
And of course, you know, all of the fans where I was up in the hospitality suite in Tower Terrace, they were, it was electrifying because they thought this was Pato's chance.
And as things turned out, oddly enough, on lap 192, maybe the biggest crash of the day.
Alex, that's the collect crash.
Let's go to Kyle Collette, a rookie who would have been otherwise rookie of the year probably, just completely devastated his car.
Let's, you're going to see it go.
Here he is, here he goes.
Hits the, oh, hits the wall.
Oh, look at the flame.
Oil fire kicks off immediately, and it was a big, big hit.
Debris scattering all over the track.
Fortunately, no one else hit him.
He heads to the grass.
Well, not that he tried to because he only had one wheel on the front.
Comes into the grass.
The fire eventually extinguishes itself, and fortunately, he was removed from the car and he was fine.
But it brought, not only a yellow out, it brought out the red flag.
Now, I got to tell you, your host here, I'm not a big red flag person.
NASCAR does it all the time.
They have this overtime rule which is so contrived.
I hate artificial nonsense in racing.
I just let the boys race, and girls race.
That's why this show is called The Pits Are Open.
There used to be a time when the pits just stayed open.
Then they started closing the pits.
Formula One does it.
NASCAR, I guess, does it now.
IndyCar's done it for a long time.
I understand why they do it.
I just don't like it.
It would change.
It would cause more excitement in terms of strategy.
And so, as time goes on, certainly in all forms of racing, IndyCar, we're getting away from tradition.
There was a time, if there was 456 laps left in the yellow, they just would run it out.
And whoever was in lead wasn't out.
In this case, on lap 192, guess who was in lead?
Felix Rosenquist.
And, well, that just didn't work out.
So, we red flagged it.
We're going to come down.
Now, we waste another five laps warming back up again.
It's going to come down to a one-lap shootout.
And the last lap, Felix Rosenquist gets back in a position that he could possibly win,
although David Maluchus was in lead and in turn.
Maluchus had a rocket ship all day.
Let's go to that last clip, Alex.
Here it is.
Here they're coming now.
This was amazing.
Coming out of turn two, you've got Rosenquist and you've got Armstrong.
They are completely tied up.
You see the weaving on the back stretch.
Maluchus is trying to break the air flow so they can't get a chance on them.
The two MSR teammates, side by side, Rosenquist goes on the outside.
Look at us.
Two by two racing.
Rosenquist comes on the outside.
He catches the draft at the last minute.
He breaks outside.
Here he goes.
And you can hear the engineer going, deploy, deploy, deploy, which is the electrical charge.
And I think that might have made a difference.
And Rosenquist wins the race by the closest margin in the history of IndyCar.
And we were screaming, going crazy, except for where I was.
The Pato Lord fans were not very happy.
I apologize for that.
I try to console as many as I could, but I have to say, I love Felix Rosenquist.
I think he's a great champion.
I'm glad.
It's only a second win, but I thought it was an exciting race.
I thought it was a wonderful, and boy, you want to talk about guts.
That last lap, I don't know that I've ever seen anybody drive with more intestinal fortitude
than Felix Rosenquist.
He was throwing caution to the wind.
He was going to do whatever it took, and it was exciting to watch.
It was a thrill as it turned out.
And David Maluchus, as you could imagine, was heartbroken.
I mean, very much like Pato was two years ago.
I mean, tears crying.
I understand it.
I can get it.
I understand the emotion of it.
But it was a race for the ages.
It was such a great race.
And again, I just want to tell you, if you ever have a chance, you need to go,
even if you don't like racing.
Listen, it's better than the Super Bowl.
It's better than the Kentucky Derby.
It's better than the Final Four.
I mean, you might have your own particular sport, but there's nothing.
Even, listen, I was surrounded by F1 fans in the suite that we were in Sunday.
And even the F1 fans were saying, this was something.
This was an amazing event.
There's nothing like it in F1.
There's nothing like it in stock.
Daytona, I've been to Daytona.
I love Daytona 500.
It doesn't come a close second to the AD 500.
There's nothing like the AD 500.
And I had the incredible privilege of being the host for a McLaren suite.
Our next guest coming up after the break is really the reason why I had that incredible opportunity.
So don't go away.
We're going to take a quick break.
And when we come back, the host of the greatest spectacle in podcasting,
Mr. Kevin Krause will be our guest.
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Hey, welcome back.
Petrope and one more out of your host, Alex Smith, our engineer and resident F1 expert.
I'm glad we had somebody F1 because I am not an expert at all.
I want to just give you the top 10 order as it finished.
Felix Rosenguiz, first place.
David Malooka, second place.
Penske.
Scott Mulglock, the third Penske.
Potto Award.
Great run for Potto.
Errol McLaren.
Marcus Armstrong, who is the teammate to Felix.
And those two guys were going side by side in Nerves of Steel.
I couldn't believe it was so wonderful.
Renas Vique, who I like a lot in the little independent team.
Uncos Hollinger did a great job.
Alex Polo, I think we all expected better from Alex Polo.
He finished seventh and it was a disappointment.
Alex Polo is seventh.
Connecticut's own Santino Verucci set a record.
I think 95 hundreds.
He's been in the top 10.
He's finished in top 10 of every one of them.
Amazing.
Roman Grosjean, very good ninth place for Dale Coyne Racing.
And then the very irritating Takumasato, at least red carpet there.
Takumasato for Ray Hall letter of finished tenth.
All right.
Our next guest, he's a great podcaster.
Again, he has the seventh gear over of podcaster.
Greatest Spectacle in podcasting.
He's become a good friend.
And I'll let him tell the story of how both of us ended up
in very unique positions race day in Indianapolis, Indiana.
Kevin Kraus, ladies and gentlemen.
Let's welcome him back.
Kevin, how are you?
Will, it's always a pleasure to be back with you, my friend.
Thank you so much for having me on again this week.
I feel like, and I don't know about you, but even though it's two days removed
from the 110th running of the 500, I still feel like sort of
a simmering level of depression and hangover from the 500
because it was such a great race.
But it's great to see you.
I know we touched base a little bit this past weekend,
but thanks for having me back on.
Yeah.
So tell the folks, I'm so indebted to you for how this thing rolled out.
Tell the folks the story of how you and I both ended up being hosts
for McLaren sponsors and executives and in your case, board members.
How did that all happen?
Well, it was kind of ironic because the last handful of years,
I've done hosting for McLaren, I've done things for them at the 500
in the very suite that you were in this weekend, Will,
as well as like the velocity historic events and that sort of thing.
But it's typically only once or twice a year that I am part of the McLaren family.
Sure.
But I'm grateful that they continue to call.
Well, so our mutual contact there said, hey, are you available for the 500 again this year?
And I said, yeah, no problem.
I was hoping you would call and I'm looking forward to it.
I think it was a great event last year and I think it went well.
And he's like, yeah, we'd love to have you.
And by the way, we're having, we're doing another venue.
I think they called where I was at the trophy club and you were up in the
suites there off of turn four.
So we need another host.
Do you have any other recommendations?
And I was like, okay, I thought about it a little bit.
And I was like, Will would be perfect for this.
Will having been a team owner and the passion that he's got for the sport
like that said, hey, Rick, you need to, you need to give this guy a call.
Will, I think he'd be perfect for it.
And so obviously I shared your contact information or his contact information
with you guys connected and Rick got back to me and he said, Will's perfect for this.
He will be the perfect fit.
And so you're going to be in turn two.
And I was like, turn two.
I didn't, I wasn't the only one I've known was the club five building,
the big black building that's inside of turn one.
So I just assumed that that's what he meant.
Maybe he had misspoken.
I'm like, I don't know why, why they're moving me.
So I get there on Saturday just to get our kit, you know, our uniform kit and everything.
And I said, I jokingly sent Rick a text.
I said, Hey, Elvis is in the house.
And he's like, well, Elvis is in the house.
He's in the wrong house.
I'm like, what?
He's like, I'm over in the turn, in turn two.
He's like, but don't worry.
I got a car.
I'll come get you.
Yeah.
And so he got me.
And we were just literally on the end of the turn two suites headed into the backstretches
where our, our venue was.
And it wasn't until that day, I kind of understood what my assignment for race day was going to be.
And he's like, yeah, by the way, this is going to be basically all the board members from a player racing.
He goes, it's the biggest of the big.
And Zach has told us that we need to get these people to like the Indy 500 and like the Indy car series.
And I, yeah, I had this almost panicked conversation with you.
I was driving to the chat that day when I found it out.
I'm like, I'm used to this, but holy crap.
It's just occurring to me that I'm dealing with the board of directors or McLaren racing.
No pressure.
And thank you.
Thanks.
Thanks to you.
Well, you kind of talked me off the ledge there and I kind of settled in.
No, it's, you know, it's funny because what, where they sent you, McLaren, you know, again, has, has a lot of research.
They build, they build this temporary hospitality facility.
It's a, it's a gigantic two story, um, like aluminum frame, fabric.
Uh, it says arrow across the top and they bring in these gigantic portable air conditioning units.
And, and they make their own hospitality suite.
And it's, it's incredible.
I've been in it before.
It just, it's beautiful.
And, and that's, that's where you ended up with your vantage point.
I mean, that's an amazing thing.
How did you find, I mean, I think we probably had about 140 people, uh, up where we were.
And it's, and by the way, they have a tower of chairs there at the end of the tower chairs.
So that last week you get to see coming out of three, the short suit turned four.
I mean, it's beautiful, beautiful setup.
The foot, I don't know if this is true with all racing like this.
Come, but I, I mean, I've been in some hospital.
I've been around Indy for a long time.
Boy, does McLaren take it up a notch with their.
Oh, yes they do.
Holy cow.
Uh, well, and I think a lot of that has to do with the effort and the, the, the degree
of importance that they've placed on the F1 program.
And now of course that's paid, paid dividends, right?
Because they won the constructors in the drivers championship last year.
And I think they're trying to bring that same level of, you know, dedicated
involvement to the IndyCar program.
And I know they've been making some changes internally.
They moved into the new shop that used to be Andretti's old shop and remodeled that
whole thing.
And they started bringing in some, you know, former college, you know, football
players and NASCAR guys to do the pit stop work to kind of try to shave some time
there.
They've got Tony Cannan dedicated in his team principal role.
So did I get a definitive answer as to, you know, what the fallout would be if we got
all the McLaren board members to, to like what they saw?
Because like you, most of those folks that I dealt with, you know, over in the Term
2 building, they were very effluent centric.
Most of them had flown here from England.
I picked a couple of the people that I knew and talked to were the chief marketing
officer for McLaren, the advice, the race team, as well as the chief financial
officer.
Fortunately, they remembered me in a good way.
So we were, we were pretty good there.
But it was odd because they, we were told that they were going to come in waves and
they said to expect about 100 people.
Ultimately, I think we had probably more like 75 ish.
But they didn't come in waves.
They all came at once at like 815.
Boom.
They all showed up.
Oh, you're kidding me.
Really?
Okay.
Yeah.
Not, not our experience at all.
Yeah.
Right.
You kind of probably had people kind of trickling in and out throughout the day.
If it's anything like it was for me last year.
Yeah.
So we had them all show up at once.
The way our setup was is they came in, you know, they sort of got cleared by our, our
sort of reception girl, I guess is the best way to phrase that.
And they had, they had the little bar right there with TVs where you get your cappuccino.
You can get your mimosa.
You could do whatever.
Sure.
And then it was almost like the building was split almost by like a race team hauler
where you had to kind of walk up some stairs and then go to the other side, which was the
tide facing the track, which is where they served breakfast and lunch and snacks.
And they had the TV and then they had the little PA system for me to use to continue
to kind of keep people up to date on what's going on with the race.
But, and then we had the second story sort of mezzanine seating, which was an even better
view because we were literally right up against the fence.
And also as you and I talked literally right at the spot where Alex Rossi had his crash
at Monday's practice.
Right.
But you could see them, you know, midway through turn two.
And they were literally right in front of us.
Like when, when Ryan Hunter Ray crashed on what was at lap 18 or whatever, the smoke
started right in front of us, you know, and then later on the race, that's when Kyle
Colette hit right about there as well.
So our view was fantastic.
But the conversations that I wound up having with everybody throughout the day was fantastic.
And then so it was about 9am by the time everybody had kind of gotten situated.
And then I finally did my, my, you know, announcement to introduce myself so they knew who I was and,
you know, that I was there to help help answer any questions that they had because like I
said, they were, they were mostly on the F1 side, you know, so they, and many of them,
and I'm sure it was probably the same for you in the suites is that they had never even been to
the Indy 500.
I couldn't believe the number of people had never seen an Indy car race and never been
to the 500.
As you said, I mean, I was stunned by that.
Same.
And it just goes to show you, you know, just how, how big F1 is, especially on, you know,
from McLaren.
And I know they're, you know, they're back in the, in the sports car business, you know,
with the World Endurance Championship and that sort of thing.
But then they had it set up to where the whole group could leave.
We had some Sprinter vans set up for them to take them to the infield so they could go to
the garage area.
And I guess at that point, you know, Zach came in and talked to them for a little bit.
And then the drivers were there.
And then so they had about an hour between like 9.30.
I think they left at actually 10.30 and they were back by 11.45 so we could be there for
the rest of the flyover and everything leading up to the start of the race.
And to almost to a man, and I tried to talk to everybody and I think I did talk to everybody
at least a couple of times, maybe not, you know, consistently, but even the hardcore
F1 people that were part of the team that had flown over from England, the number one thing
that they said to me was that they were blown away by the level of accessibility that they
could get here in IndyCar compared to F1.
Even one of the guys that's a regular part of that is like, you know, I'm getting frustrated
with it because now that F1 drivers, they have bodyguards and you've got fans.
I'm not making it any easier by trying to force their way in to get something or whatever.
And he's like, I'm getting frustrated with it.
I said, you know, you thought this was accessible at our biggest event of the year.
Go to Road America.
Go to Arlington.
Go to Milwaukee.
Go to any other race.
Anywhere.
And you can go right up to the trailers where they're working on the cars and they'll talk
to you.
They'll sign autographs.
They'll take pictures.
This is for as crazy as accessible as you thought it was now.
It's even better anywhere else when there's not, you know, 350,000 people.
Hey, Kevin, hang on to that thought.
I got a lot more to talk about.
We're going to take a quick break and then let's talk more about that.
And let's talk about why we don't want IndyCar to become like Formula One.
So hold on right back.
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By the way, the jerky was fabulous.
Kevin Krause.
I love it.
See, it's a win-win all the way around.
We get to work together.
You get to taste the Krause Meats products and you liked it.
So what's not to like?
Other than maybe if we were behind the wheel of one of those 33.
Exactly.
It tasted so much like real meat.
I don't know how else to describe it.
It was so...
Of course, I have a bent toward teriyaki.
I love the teriyaki especially.
But even the regular, your regular flavor, it just was so...
I don't know how...
It tastes like meat.
I don't know how else to describe it.
It was so good.
Really...
Well, and I thank you for that.
Well, I appreciate that.
And the good news is, is that it is real meat.
So you don't have to worry about eating any substitutions.
Because I can promise you, when I'm not doing race cars stuff, I'm the one hand trimming
because it's all made with eye of a round beef.
And I trim every bit of fat off of it.
And regardless of what flavor it is, we have five different flavors right now.
And we're testing a couple more probably this week.
But they all marinade in whatever recipe we're using for 36 hours before it goes through
the drying process.
And then we package it.
And the teriyaki, that's one of your favorites.
And I think I told you this, but on our website, we call it Mama Krause's teriyaki drink.
Because we use my late mother's teriyaki marinade.
And we've tried a couple of other teriyaki test batches and they don't hold the candle.
Don't change the recipe.
Just keep it...
Right.
Hey, listen, so I want to make a statement here.
This is not a commercial for McLaren, although you and I were both contractors for McLaren
over the weekend.
Right.
And it's not a commercial for Krause Meats, although I love your teriyaki, alright?
You know, I was surrounded by a group.
I'm going to say a dozen, 15 people all from Mexico, mostly from Monterey, where Pato was
born.
Pato's from?
Sure.
And Die Hard.
Die Hard, love Pato.
Also Die Hard F1 fans.
Most of them never had been...
I loved it because I felt like, boy, I mean, I was expecting all these highly technical
people, like I was going to have to really pull out of the memory banks, a lot of my
Indiecore knowledge.
It was easy because I've never been to a buy one of them before.
So it was a much more laid back experience than I had anticipated.
So I will say that.
You were in the Shark Tank.
You had all the board directors.
They were probably a different deal for you.
But everybody said the same thing.
It's so cool.
It's so different.
There's so much access.
But yeah, I feel like, again, not to be critical, but I feel like there's an attitude among the
leadership of Indiecore that they want to make it more exclusive.
They want to make less access.
And I'm thinking, guys, don't change the recipe.
The teriyaki is good the way it is.
Leave it alone.
What do you think?
Well, I was just going to say, and honestly, I started watching...
When I got back from the track Sunday night, I started watching the pre-race, the broadcast
version of it.
And then I watched the race itself on Monday because by that point, you're just...
You're talked out.
You're flapped out.
You're tired.
You need a rest.
You had to get on a plane and fly home.
But it's like, Fox is doing a great job on the broadcast.
And it's continuing to enhance the footprint of the series and the popularity is growing.
And I really believe this...
We often say, and I know you and I had this text exchange the other day, it's like all
of those prior things that we've done have led us to this moment.
And that's kind of where the trend of Indiecore right now.
And I don't think, at least in terms of the Indie 500, the Indie 500 has never been healthier
than it is right now.
So this is one of those where like kind of going back to the basics, you don't change
the recipe.
You don't fix what's not broken.
Now, are there other things that they can do from with the new car coming up in some
of the technical things to maybe improve the racing or look at other events or partnerships
like they doubled up with IMSA or NASCAR, things like that.
But they've got a good thing going right now.
And they're, especially this last weekend, they turned on a whole new segment of fans
that didn't...
They may have heard of the Indie 500 and the Indie Car series, but they didn't really
know.
And I was telling the people in our suite, they weren't that familiar with it.
I said, you have no idea what you're in for.
This is...
You think...
And I've been to F1 races as well.
And it's like, yeah, it's cool and it's exclusive and everything, but there is nothing.
And I do mean absolutely nothing.
Like everything that builds up, the lead up to the start of the 500 and everything that
goes through the race, there's no F1 race, Monaco included, that holds a candle to what
we all, 350,000 plus however many millions watched on TV, got to witness for themselves
on Sunday.
So I sincerely hope that they don't fix it just for the sake of trying to fix something.
I mean, they've already taken care of the officiating and the yellow flag thing from the Rossies
deal and all that.
Let the boys and girls race, just let them race.
Don't play with it.
That's right.
You've planted the seed, just water it.
We don't have time for a proper discussion about this, but let me talk about the red
flag.
You know for the longest time in Indie Car.
I hate contrived, you know, stage racing, you know, overtime.
This isn't baseball.
It's not football.
It's car racing.
Leave it alone and let it be car racing.
I don't want to be NASCAR.
I don't want to be Formula One.
I was a little concerned about 8 laps to go with the red flag and here's why.
I know both sides of the argument.
Oh, there was so much to pre-on track, you have to clean up carbon fiber, blah, blah.
Listen, those guys at Indie, they are the best.
They can clean up better than anybody.
Everything about Indie is top shelf, right?
So then I say, well, it's Fox.
You know, Fox wants the excitement of the last and it was exciting, but I just hate
it when we're breaking tradition because Felix was in the front when that red flag
came out.
In the old days, they probably would have ran it out and maybe had two laps of green
or they would have let Rosenquist win under yellow.
I don't have a problem with that, but again, I'm a purist and it bothers me when they
start monkeying around with stuff, but I just don't want them to ruin the sport.
No, and I can well appreciate that and I feel the same way too.
It's like, you know, the whole, you know, stage racing over time, it's like, that's
how NASCAR lost me when they when they went into this whole stage racing deal.
I'm like, I'm out now as it relates to Sunday.
You know, we, as you know, because we were all thinking, OK, Pato's got to save fuel.
You know, everybody's in this massive fuel save mode to have a shot at the end.
But so when Kyle Collette hit the wall there with eight to go, I was a little bit surprised
that they were so quick to throw the red.
I thought there would have been at least a couple of laps under yellow.
And then if it was bad enough, then they could have red flagged it.
But that said, it was a big hit.
It was a good job.
They must have seen something to where, OK, maybe maybe they had to check the integrity
of the safer wall, you know, to where if these guys are bunched up because it would have been,
it would have been a bunched up restart.
It had they just left the yellow anyway.
And you know, as well as I do, and I told my group this as well on Sunday, it's like
caution's breed caution.
So that's entirely possible that at the restart had it not gone red.
Yeah, they could have had another crash there.
And if the fence was compromised in some way, shape or form, now now it's shame on
any car and there's a bigger liability as well as the speedway.
So I while I wish it would have gone yellow for a couple of laps and then make the decision
on the red, I don't entirely disagree.
Yeah, but what I will say is I was a little bit surprised at the yellow that they threw
with what was it, five laps to go, four laps to go when when mixed just brushed the wall.
Yeah, yeah.
But then again, it's kind of like we were saying a minute ago, you know, it's almost
as though we asked for it, right?
When everything happened with Rossi being left on the front straight away at the GP
and they didn't didn't throw it right now.
It's like they've overcompensated the other way.
Yeah.
So I mean, you know, I think the thrilling finish at the end of the day,
there was the greatest finish in the history to 500 and none of us were
disappointed. It's like it all worked out in the end, right?
At the end of the day, they call it the greatest spectacle in racing for a reason.
And that certainly I told my people to I'm like, if nothing else, this is it right here.
This is what we all come here for.
This is what so many of us dedicate our lives to is because this is the greatest
spectacle in racing and the greatest event anywhere in the greatest race track in the world.
Amen.
Amen to that.
Kevin, thank you so much.
You opened the door for me to have that that once in a lifetime opportunity with
McLaren. Thank you so much.
I appreciate you so much.
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Thank you so much for coming on today.
And I love being your co-worker at least for the day at the Indianapolis 500.
It says, I told you, Will, I couldn't have thought of a better person than you for it.
And I'm so glad it worked out.
And yeah, I mean, we're anywhere is that, you know, the old lucky strike
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So thanks so much.
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Thanks, Kevin. We'll see you soon.
You got it. Well, thank you.
Hey, that's it for us.
That's a wrap, Alex.
Great job today.
Thank you.
We'll be back next Thursday for Speed Sport, folks.
And then we'll also be airing pieces of this program on our social channels.
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Thanks so much. God bless you.
We'll be right here. Love you guys.
We'll see you next week.
About this episode
Hosts kick off with pit-stop basics—“Change all four tires, fill the fuel cell and make needed adjustments.”—then zoom into their Indianapolis 500 weekend hosting McLaren hospitality suites overlooking the pits. They compare logistics and crowd scale, note a brief rain delay, and walk through a chain of early and late incidents (Lap 18, then Lap 192, plus a restart after rain). Between crashes and race-control debates, they also cover IndyCar’s media footprint, fan access, and why they don’t want IndyCar to become like Formula One.
Original notes
The Indianapolis 500 never disappoints, and this year's race delivered everything from dramatic crashes and strategy calls to emotional highs and heartbreaking moments.
On this episode of The Pits Are Open, Will Marotti and Alex Smith look back on an unforgettable Month of May and break down one of the most exciting Indianapolis 500s in recent memory. Will shares his unique experience serving as a host inside McLaren's exclusive Tower Terrace hospitality suite, spending race day with sponsors, executives, board members, driver families, and racing fans from around the world.
The conversation covers the incredible growth of IndyCar, the impact of FOX's coverage, and why the Indianapolis 500 remains one of the greatest sporting events on the planet.
- Hosting guests inside McLaren Hospitality on race day
- The atmosphere surrounding the 110th Running of the Indianapolis 500
- Ryan Hunter-Reay's early exit
- Katherine Legge's incredible save
- Ed Carpenter and Takuma Sato's incident
- Joseph Newgarden's crash following the rain delay
- Kyle Kirkwood's late-race accident
- The dramatic closing laps and race-winning move
- Why IndyCar's fan accessibility remains unmatched in motorsports
- The continued growth and momentum of the IndyCar Series
Later in the show, Will is joined by Kevin Krauss, host of the Seventh Gear Over Rev podcast and fellow McLaren hospitality host during Indy 500 weekend.
Together they discuss:
- Behind-the-scenes stories from McLaren's hospitality program
- Interacting with McLaren executives, sponsors, and international guests
- How Formula 1 insiders view the IndyCar experience
- The unique culture of the Indianapolis Motor Speedway
- Why IndyCar offers a fan experience unlike any other racing series
- Opportunities for future growth in American open-wheel racing
Kevin also shares his perspective on representing McLaren during race weekend and the lasting impact that Indianapolis has on first-time visitors from around the world.
This episode is a celebration of the Indianapolis 500, the people who make it special, and the future of IndyCar racing.
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