The Racing Gene: Pro Porsche Driver Sabré Cook & Hall of Fame Dad Stacey Cook
To All The Cars I've Loved Before: Classic Car Restoration, JDM, and Automotive History
The Racing Gene: Pro Porsche Driver Sabré Cook & Hall of Fame Dad Stacey CookTo All The Cars I've Loved Before: Classic Car Restoration, JDM, and Automotive History · Jun 23, 2026
The DeLorean DMC-12 is a sports car with a very unusual look, including a stainless-steel body. It’s famous partly because it’s been featured in popular movies. People often bring it up when talking about car history and recognizable automotive icons.
Sabré Cook is a pro race car driver who is also a trained mechanical engineer. She's the first woman to compete in the Porsche Carrera Cup North America, a prestigious racing series, and before driving full-time she worked designing parts for a Formula 1 team.
JDX Racing is the professional racing team that Sabré Cook drives for in the Porsche Carrera Cup — a one-make racing series where everyone competes in the same Porsche 911 GT3 Cup car.
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Porsche Carrera Cup North America
The Porsche Carrera Cup North America is a race series where every driver competes in the same car — the Porsche 911 GT3 Cup — so the results come down purely to skill. Sabré Cook was the first woman ever to race in it.
Suspension components are the parts that help the wheels stay in contact with the road. They affect how the car turns, brakes, and rides over bumps. The host is pointing out that Sabré Cook designs these parts for race teams.
Renault's Formula 1 team is one of the top racing organizations in the world. Sabré Cook — beyond being a professional driver — actually worked there as an engineer. She has a Mechanical Engineering degree and used it in F1 before returning full-time to driving.
The 911 GT3 Cup is a race-only version of the Porsche 911 built purely for track competition. Sabré Cook was the first woman to race one in the Porsche Carrera Cup North America. Unlike almost any other professional driver, she also has an engineering degree and worked for a Formula 1 team. She can literally take the car apart and put it back together herself.
Stacey Cook is Sabré Cook's father. He was a professional motorcycle racer who later channeled that expertise into getting Sabré into karting at age eight — and has been in her corner ever since as a mechanic and coach.
Back in the early days of racing, someone would actually ride in the car with the driver. Their job was to tell the driver where other cars were, since there was no modern communication equipment.
A lap belt is a seatbelt that goes around your waist. The episode is saying that in the 1950s and 1960s, that was often the only restraint used, even though it doesn’t protect you as well as newer harnesses.
The HANS device is a safety system that helps protect your head and neck in a crash. It connects your helmet to your seatbelt so your head can’t whip forward as easily.
A five-point harness is a multi-strap seatbelt used in racing. It holds you at the shoulders and hips (and between the legs) so you’re less likely to slide around during a crash.
The Datsun 620 was a small, tough pickup truck made by Datsun (which later became Nissan) starting in 1972. They were famous for running forever even with huge mileage — Stacey Cook's was already at 200,000 miles when he bought it for $800.
The Chevrolet Corvette is a sports car made by Chevrolet. It’s known for being fast and for having a recognizable look. People often talk about it as a dream car, even if they end up choosing something else.
A Chevy Equinox is a regular everyday SUV. The point here is that it was chosen because it was dependable, got good gas mileage, and handled snow well. The speaker even named it “Pudge.”
Aerodynamics is how the shape of a car interacts with the air as it moves. It matters because it can make the car use less energy and feel more stable at speed. Here it’s being brought up as part of the safety conversation.
The Ford F-100 is a pickup truck made by Ford. The 1975 single-cab version is a classic style of truck with a simple, traditional layout. It’s the kind of vehicle people remember because it can be used like a work truck and is also popular for restoration.
The Toyota RAV4 is a popular SUV that’s meant to be reliable and practical. Here, the host is talking about what it’s been like to own it for years, including a paint problem they connected to a recall.
Spec Miata is a racing series where everyone competes in nearly identical early Mazda Miatas. The strict rules keep costs low and the cars equal, so it's one of the most affordable ways to go wheel-to-wheel racing.
A go-kart track is a place designed for racing small cars (karts). The host is using it as an example of where someone brought a super-fast car to drive.
“Naturally aspirated” describes an engine that draws air in without a turbocharger or supercharger. The speaker is contrasting it with a “supercharged” version, implying the car’s power delivery would be more straightforward and less boost-based.
“Supercharged” means the engine has a device that forces extra air into it. More air usually means more power, and it can make the car feel punchier when you accelerate.
A “turbo” is a device that uses the engine’s exhaust to spin a compressor. It squeezes more air into the engine, which can make the car feel stronger when you accelerate.
A kit car is basically a car you build from a parts kit instead of buying fully assembled. The question here is whether that specific model could be purchased that way.
An open-wheel car is a race car where the wheels are out in the open. You’ll see this on many formula-style race cars because it helps them move through the air efficiently.
VIR stands for Virginia International Raceway, a well-known road course in Virginia. It's mentioned here as the North American base for TMI Auto Tech, which builds Ariel Atoms under license from the British manufacturer.
Ariel Motor Company is the small British company that makes the Ariel Atom. In the US, a company called TMI Autotech builds them under license at a racetrack in Virginia.
Lotus is a car brand that’s famous for making cars lighter and focused on handling. The host is saying Lotus’s approach is basically: fewer pounds usually means better driving feel.
IMSA is a big organization that runs sports-car races in the U.S. It includes long-distance endurance events where teams race for hours, not just minutes.
The 24 Hours of Daytona is a famous race where teams drive the same car non-stop for 24 hours. It's one of the biggest endurance races in the US and a dream event for professional racing drivers like Sabré Cook.
The Nordschleife is a very famous, very challenging part of a race track in Germany. It’s known for being long and twisty with big elevation changes, so it’s a real test of driving skill.
Tesla makes electric cars. The point here is that they’re fast and convenient, but the host feels the driving experience can be less exciting than cars where the driver has more direct involvement.
STI is Subaru’s performance version of certain models. The host is saying that when their Tesla arrived, other fast Subarus (STIs) pulled up too, but they didn’t think it was worth trying to race.
Autocross is a timed driving event on a closed course made with cones. You drive your car through a bunch of tight turns and try to be as fast and smooth as possible.
Karting is racing in small go-karts. Many drivers start here because it’s a great way to learn how to drive fast and handle a car in traffic and corners.
A simulator is a racing video game setup that you can practice with. It helps you learn tracks and driving habits without paying for real track time every time you want to practice.
The 1990 Miata is the original first-generation Mazda Miata — a small, fun, affordable two-seat convertible that became one of the best-selling sports cars ever made. Simple, light, and rear-wheel drive, it's beloved by driving enthusiasts.
Track days are events where you drive your car on a real race track. It’s a structured way to learn how your car handles at speed without risking public roads.
A “spec Miata” is a Miata set up to match a specific racing rule set. It helps keep costs down and makes races more about driving than spending lots of money on custom parts.
Sim racing is racing in a video game with real steering wheel and pedals. People use it to practice driving techniques and learn tracks without going to the track every time.
Gran Turismo is a PlayStation racing game series famous for being very realistic. Many professional racing drivers — including Formula 1 drivers — have cited it as part of how they learned to drive fast.
In the podcast, “DLS” is mentioned as part of a “9-11 DLS Stinger,” which sounds like a specific model called the Stinger. The speaker is saying it’s their dream car and imagining it in a certain color. Without more details, it’s best understood as a particular, named car variant.
Singer is a company that builds highly customized Porsche 911s. They take classic cars and update them with modern parts while keeping the original look.
The Ariel Atom is a tiny, ultra-light British sports car with no roof, doors, or body panels — basically a roll cage on wheels with an engine. It's famous for being insanely fast because it weighs almost nothing.
The Indianapolis 500 is a famous 500-mile car race held annually in Indiana since 1911. It's one of the biggest sporting events in the US and a bucket-list race for any professional driver.
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Welcome back to All the Cards I've Loved Before, the only podcast that shares life lessons through the rear view mirror of your favorite cards.
It's time to get a little grease under your nails, grab your favorite card being teacher hat, and jump into our Devorean kind of game, get it up to ED, and get back to that first sense of your freedom.
The windows down, the music tag, and the best friend file.
Every card tells a story, whether it's the forgotten beater or the one that got away.
We're diving into the personal history behind the metal, so let's get into it.
Hello again, Doug.
How is everything going in your world?
Doing great.
Great to be back here with you, Dave.
It's always good to sit down and have conversations with new friends.
I see you have uh you have your textbook and and kind of trademark Back to the Future DeLorean swag on today.
Yeah.
In addition to my Dearan picture in the background.
A little fuzzy on the camera, but we know it's there.
That's all that matters.
Yeah, we got the Flying DeLorean from Back to the Future.
Perfect.
Yes.
All right.
It coincides with the passing of James Tolkien.
Hopefully I'm saying his last name.
He played Principal Strickland in the Back to the Future franchise.
He passed away at age 95 just a couple days ago.
So that's a great long life.
That's actually news to me.
I didn't hear that, and I'm sorry for the loss of his family and friends and and the loss to the the movie community.
But yeah, he did a great job as in his roles.
So he he was also in Top Gun.
He was the commander on the on the aircraft carrier.
He had a lot of other roles, but those are two of the popular ones I can think of from the 80s.
I was gonna say, uh out off the top of my head, I didn't even realize like they were the same.
Like, you know, thinking back, I've seen both movies multiple times.
I don't think I've ever connected the dots.
Huh.
Now I gotta go re-watch them.
In remembrance.
That's your mission.
Yeah, well, I'll have some downtime soon.
Maybe.
We'll see.
Well, on our last and latest episode with our 45-year veteran automotive journalist Matt Zio, it just dropped.
And Matt was the former editor of Road and Track and Auto Week magazines, the author of the book Mercedes AMG Race Bread Performance.
He is also the editor-in-chief of tightwadgarage.com.
And if you if you've been influential and has been influential in automotive media since the 1980s.
So if you're hearing this episode, go back, listen to that one.
That was a great interview.
So that being said, I also have some updates from a recent review on Apple Podcasts.
Carly said that I enjoy tuning in for the variety of guests this podcast has.
The beginnings finds it finds me in nostalgia land for car memories.
You would not be able to guess the humble beginnings that many guests started with.
So thank you, Carly, for that wonderful review.
And if you're enjoying the podcast, please leave us a review.
It's the best way that we can get our name out there and get some more listeners in to enjoy the stories just like we we like making them.
We love listeners to come back and say how much they're enjoying them too.
So that being said, Doug, please introduce our guest.
Tell me and the listeners how we found them, how they got into our virtual garage.
Sure.
You bet.
So getting more involved in motorsports, we've talked about me doing the sim racing and whatnot, and just trying to think of what else I can do with cars.
You can't go very far without hearing about Miss Saber Cook, especially with her unique background as mechanical engineer and growing up with Stacey Cook as her father.
And we're super excited to hear that.
It's another family duo, one of one of many we love having.
And these are the stories our listeners want to hear.
So, with that, a little by way of a little more background, we're joined by this duo that has the obsession with speed in their genetic code, it seems.
So, first up we have Saber Cook.
And if anybody follows Portia Carrera Cup North America, you know her as the powerhouse behind the wheel for JDX racing.
She's not just a driver, she also is a mechanical engineer who has designed suspension components for the Renault F-1 team.
And she's one of the few people on the planet who can build a car, break it down, and then go out in the field in a 500 horsepower 911 GT3 cup car.
And with her virtually, we have her man, her father, pardon me, the man who started it all, Stacey Cook.
Stacy is a Colorado and was inducted in 2023 into the Colorado Motorsports Hall of Fame.
He made his name on two wheels, not four, as a professional motocross and supercross rider back in the day.
He's the one who traded his handlebars for a wrench to help Saber get her start in karting at the early age of eight.
And he's been in the corner for every championship and podium since.
So here we have family history.
We're going to talk.
We are really excited to have this duo.
So Saber and Stacey, how are you?
Good morning.
Doing great.
How are you guys?
We're great.
We're going to have you.
Yeah, absolutely.
Thanks for having us.
Yeah.
Wow.
Well, thanks for the introduction, Doug.
I just want to say thank you both for being here.
Thanks for coming on our humble little show to get your your story out there.
That's what our show is all about is the stories that brought us to where we are today and the cars that got us there.
So thank you all for being here.
I'm I'm super looking forward to hearing about the humble beginnings and and the successes you've had, especially the Motorsports Hall of Fame for Colorado.
That's amazing in itself.
So congratulations on that.
Thank you.
Yeah, thank you guys.
Happy to be here and excited to kind of share share our stories and get to know more about you guys as well.
Yeah.
So we have something new we've added to the last couple episodes where we do a trivia question.
Stacy, Stacy and Saber, even if you know the answer, we're going to hold it till the end.
But the trivia question for today's episode is we talk a lot about keeping your eyes on the road, but in the early days of racing, drivers had to rely on a riding mechanic sitting alongside them to yell where the competition was.
Obviously, that's changed a lot in modern days, but this goes back to the very first Indy 500 back in 1911 when the driver, Ray Haroon, hopefully I'm saying his name, without a mechanic.
So to save weight and see what was behind him, he bolted a very specific household item to his dashboard.
And so the trivia question is what common car feature did Ray Haroon invent that day?
And we'll we'll get to that towards the end of the episode.
So probably the answer.
But can you imagine having to have somebody along with hey, there's a guy there?
Now you have your crew chief maybe helping you just in case.
But yeah, I mean, there are more wild things, I guess.
If it's like that is totally normal.
And then like nowadays, we're like, they were crazy.
So I'm just excited to see like in another hundred years, like, you know, what are we doing now?
That's just absolutely diabolical that they're gonna be like, what were they?
Yeah, what were these people?
They weren't they were dreaming, like taking their lives in their own hands.
Well, especially looking at the safety aspects that we have today in both just regular civilian cars versus race cars and and everything, and how you know, like it was just the regular lap belt back in the the the 50s and 60s, and they're like, I put a helmet on, and you know what I mean?
Like that was it.
Now we have roll cages and five-point harnesses, and you know, the oh the Hans device for your neck.
I mean, like so much stuff that they wasn't even thought of back then, and they're like, Well, I had a lap belt and a helmet, I'm fine.
But the cars were made different than two, so we you everything goes in consideration.
Well, speaking of cars, I would like to to start with Mr.
Stacy.
What was your first car?
And tell us a little bit about it, please.
Oh boy, you're you're not you're gonna be extremely disappointed.
It was an old like 1972 Dotson pickup with about 200,000 miles on it.
That's not disappointing.
I bet it if if you still had it today, it would still be running.
Because the old Nissan's Dotsons, Hondas, like those are all those old things, man, they were built for for longevity.
Oh they were.
How did you come about obtaining this this uh Dotson pickup?
Well, of course, you know, it's back in the day when when you're turning 16 years old, I mean, you're you're ready to get your license immediately.
So, you know, I saved up money mowing lawns and doing whatever I could, and I think I paid $800 for it.
And when I turned 16, and first thing I did is take it to the car wash and open both doors and wash all the junk out of one side out the other side, because it was it was pretty rough.
And and but I drove the wheels off that thing for a couple, I don't know how many years and probably put another 200,000 miles on it.
Did your motorcycle fit in the back?
Yeah, motorcycle in the back.
It was a two-seater, of course.
You remember the old Dodson stick shift pickups, and and we would pack three or four people in there, and and of course all the races were over in Denver, which are you know 250 miles away, and we'd put two, three, four people in a Dotson pickup and two or three bikes in the back and and make our way to Denver and not no money, no nothing, sleep under the truck when we got to the track.
And and so lots of great memories there.
So that's that's amazing.
If you don't mind me asking, what what bike did you have back then that you can remember the you know, like the specific bike that you're putting in the back and going to these these places with?
So that back then that day would have been a 1978.
Would that have been a 78 Suzuki?
Arm 125.
Wow.
I think is the is what that was.
Now I'm trying to remember.
Might have been a 79 Honda because I went to Honda in 79.
Wow.
And obviously we've already talked about a couple things that make you smile, but like looking back, what makes you smile when you think of that truck in particular?
Oh, just the incredible adventures and fun we had, and you know, and and uh just great memories.
You know, just so many great memories with friends and my brothers, and you know, just uh and you guys understand the racing, you know, the environment and the racing family, which consists of motorcycle people and mo, you know, auto people, and it's just an amazing group of people.
And and so those memories you can just never you can never replace, and and so grateful, you know.
16.
I can't believe our parents, of course, you know.
I I couldn't imagine, of course, my daughter's so hard-headed and independent that, you know, at 16 she'd have been fine going on her own.
But, you know, being kids and and our parents just letting us leave the house and drive 500 miles round trip to go race motorcycles with no no idea how we were gonna get home.
It was it's just a lot of fun and a lot of great memories.
Yeah.
Yeah, in that time when there was no there were no cell phones, there was no GPS, there was nothing.
Like you were just, well, let's go figure this out together.
And you would like freedom.
You had a you had a map, a book with a map.
Yeah, the old Atlas, Rand McNally Atlas.
I do have one in my car just in case.
Like the world stopped and I know my phone no longer worked.
In the zombie apocalypse, you'll be able to navigate.
Yes.
I love it.
Well, one last question about that that old pickup.
Like, what happened to it?
When did you get rid of it?
Where to go, kind of thing.
I don't know if I can say that on paper.
Cover your ears.
No, you can I I'm I'm interested.
Go ahead.
What happened to him?
Well, I I unfortunately I had uh my dirt bike in the back and was out one night and running up and down.
We have a local strip here called North Avenue, and that's where you run up and down, you know, as a young kid looking for girls and whatever trouble you can get in.
And unfortunately, I rear-ended another car of girls, and my bike flipped up over the top, landed on the hood, caved the hood in, busted the radiator.
Yeah, so needless to say, I I was carless there for for a bit, and then had to try to figure out how to piece together enough parts to get it running again.
I ended up just running that thing until the motor just finally blew up.
And I think I took it to the salvage yard.
So well, that's that's a really expensive way to meet a car full of girls.
It was.
It was very expensive when did you get a date out of it at least?
Well, yeah, but I don't know if that was good or not.
Well, yeah.
Oh man.
Well, that's an amazing story.
Well, you know, you know, Dave, we like to say that this podcast asked people what's the first begs to ask the question, what was your first car?
Maybe this is the first one.
Well, I'd asked him like what it what it was in the past, and he told me, Oh, I had a little dots of pickup truck, but I never got to know like the the details of this.
So this is it's fun for me to hear it as well.
Yeah, yeah.
No, we're we're glad you're enjoying it.
I'm enjoying it, especially because you're enjoying it.
Just in your face, you're like, just mom know about this?
He could write a book.
So I hope one day that he does.
I hope he does too.
I'd love to read it.
Yeah.
Well, there you have it.
So you see, we got three right three readers there if you want to get started.
We should probably advertise some more too.
We love having authors on, so you would be our our first guest slash author, slash motorcyclist, there you go across, slash father of professional race car driver.
So that's well that let's do it.
Okay, it's a deal.
Saber, you just gotta keep stay on him, stay on your dad for that.
Yeah, that's that's the hard thing, is yeah, I think I'm pretty sure he probably has undiagnosed ADHD.
So getting him to probably put the book, I don't know.
We'll see.
He probably knows it at this point.
He doesn't know.
No, he's totally aware.
Yeah, like many of us.
Too many years the landing on my head.
Yeah.
So, Saber, I'm gonna ask you the first question about your first car and how'd you get it?
Mine is way less cool.
I wish I had a cool story, but I would say, I guess, like one thing I want to give background on is my dad, he grew up, you know, in like he he grew up from like nothing.
Like trailer park fought his way, tooth and nail, built himself up to eventually being, you know, an amazing real estate broker and has created a lot of success.
And that was after the racing, obviously.
But like something that I just want to call is how appreciative I am of having a dad who who fought tooth and nail to come from nothing.
And then by the time I was in a position to be 16, I didn't have to worry about going and paying 800 bucks to get a Dotson pickup truck.
Thankfully, we were in a in a good enough position to where the deal was if I got straight A's all the way until I was 16.
My parents said, okay, if you get straight A's, then we'll we'll buy you a car.
So, but also they didn't disclose that they also get to choose the car.
So it wasn't gonna be a Corvette.
Oh no.
Which I didn't want it to be.
I mean, I didn't need it to be anything fancy, but my mom was pretty intent on making sure it was also something that was not fast, which was probably a good thing because I probably would have got a lot more speeding tickets.
So when I was 16, we went and we tried a few cars and it we found something that was very dependable, very good on gas mileage, great in the snow.
And it was a Chevy Equinox.
So nothing, nothing crazy fancy, just got me to and from where I needed to go.
Very safe.
It was it was decent in the snow, not bad, but yeah, not not as an exciting of a story as my dad's.
Did the car have a name?
It did have a name.
I named it Pudge.
The fish off Lilo and Stitch that eats the peanut butter and jelly sandwiches because he's he's kind of pudgy.
He's got like a fat face, and so the Chevy Equinox, like the front bumper, is very like round.
And I was like, that's its name.
Perfect.
I love it.
So I did want to ask you, Saber, just given your background and now having looping back to your dad's first car as a mechanical engineer, like thinking about the difference between his first car and your first car.
What's your feeling on safety and aerodynamics?
And obviously, obviously you have a unique perspective given your background.
Well, obviously the Dotson pickup one because it's much older is gonna be way less safe.
There's a lot less mass to it.
There's a lot the safety ratings were a lot different in the 1970s than they were when I got my car in what was it, maybe 2010-ish.
So quite quite a big gap in the development of consumer cars.
I'm sure I probably there's I don't even know what the airbag ratings were for you guys back then with that kind of truck.
No idea.
Yeah, I was like, I don't even know if you guys had that.
Like not until like early 90s, and it started like with a driver airbag and then eventually a passenger airbag, and then kind of group it.
So yeah, much mu I was in a much more safe cocoon, which is exactly what my mother wanted.
So she she reachieved that.
And then aerodynamic-wise, though, maybe the Dotson might be better because I'm sure it actually has a lot less, maybe has less surface frontal area than Chevy Equinox.
Chevy Equinox, I mean it's a small SUV, so it's gonna have a lot more surface area in general, so probably a lot more drag than the pickup truck, I would think.
And and think it back to those Dotsons.
I mean, those were small.
Correct me if I'm wrong, Stacey.
Those were small pickup trucks.
And they had three across, maybe middle seatbelts.
I don't even I don't think it didn't.
If it had seat belts, we never used them.
Okay.
So seatbelts seat, we were talking about airbags, so seat belts optional on that class of car as well.
I was kind of hoping that those were at least like a given, but I guess that.
Yeah, I think they did seat belt had to be in the car in '68, I think is when they came out with the actual like mandate of the seatbelt has to be in the car, but they didn't actually mandate laws to use them until the mid 80s, late 70s, maybe early 80s.
80s, yeah.
Dave, your your law enforcement background's coming out.
Yeah.
I didn't even we didn't even tell them.
Like, we didn't tell them.
I'm a cop.
Like, that's the scary part.
Yeah.
I don't I don't judge racers for how they got their experience.
Oh, good.
It's still a great story about if it had seatbelts.
Never street raced, so uh Well, you can't get a ticket on the track, is my understanding.
That's true.
You can get a penalty, yeah.
Penalty demerit.
Awesome.
Ultimately cost money too.
So it all is just lighting money on fire, pretty much.
And and for the fun of it.
So, Dave, I think you wanted to ask Stacey about his second car in compared to the first one.
Given the lack of uh seatbelts and all.
Yeah.
Maybe the second car had seatbelts.
What was the second car?
What do you remember moving on to from the the Nissan or the Dotson?
Sorry, I keep saying Nissan because my brain hears Dotson automatically goes to Nissan.
But what was what did we move up to or laterally to from the pickup?
I made a really big move up after the Dotson.
I went to another used Dotson that was orange again, but it had the little extended cab behind the driver's seat.
Remember those?
They had to do it.
Did it have those back seats?
Yeah.
Yeah, the little, yeah, and I mean nobody could, but I would force my brothers to ride in those back seats all the way to Denver so we could fit more people in the Dotson pickup.
And and so I made quite an improvement when I moved to my second Dotson pickup.
And yeah, of course it was the same color and and probably ended up in the same scrapyard as my first Dotson pickup.
So my whole life evolved around being able to carry my motorcycle in whatever car I had and going to the races.
So yeah, it was a utility vehicle for you and you had some fun with it though.
Yes, it was.
Yeah.
I remember those little fold-down seats of some of my friends, and it was it was like rock, paper, scissors of who was not gonna be in the back because those seats were the most uncomfortable.
But you had to get to where you were going and you wanted to spend time with your friends, so 100% exactly awesome, awesome.
Yeah, and I love that you stuck with the color because I actually had an orange pickup, and when I was so technically it would have been my second car, it was an orange, but it was a Ford F100, 1975 Ford Fund single cab, and it was orange.
They loved their oranges in the 70s, so they did, yes, they did.
Was it like like fluorescent orange or just like a normal orange?
No, not a fluorescent, it was more of a normal orange, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, not not super, but nothing, nothing crazy, and not the burnt oranges like they have nowadays.
It wasn't this matchbox over my shoulder, it's not that orange, it's more of like the background of this one here, kind of orange.
Yeah, more that color, yeah.
Yeah, but that's at least mine was.
But yeah, thank you for sharing that little bit to this information.
I appreciate that.
And Saber, what about uh what about your second car?
What did we move from the equinox?
Or are we still rocking the equinox?
No, we're not rocking the equinox.
I uh it's actually so much cooler and faster.
It's uh Toyota RAV4, it's still still my car.
I got it in college.
It has 118,000 miles now on it.
So, you know, it's just broken in for a Toyota.
So currently I'm having a slight issue with my paint peeling off.
It's because there was like a recall on the paint, but long story short to it, it doesn't want to cover it.
So it's uh it's been it's seen better days at this moment, but it gives it a little bit of character, but it's uh all over the country in it, got me all through college.
It's great in the snow, so I I can't complain, and it doesn't go very fast, so it keeps me out of trouble.
Yeah, that's probably the best thing, is like when your car won't go over this posted speed limit, you can't get a ticket that way.
Exactly.
I mean a lot more distance and time to build the momentum.
So it's adding up on that.
So we talked about speed and we talked about safety.
What is the most dangerous car you would consider yourself have ever been in?
Like what if you think back of like this is probably not the safest time for me, what where would that be?
Anytime I'm receiving as the coach, but probably the the the the the most dangerous would probably be seating when you're coaching someone that's an am and one of them would be like I I got to receive in an aerial atom, which is they're insanely fast.
That's one of that's on the list of my dream cars.
Yeah, it's there's one in junction, the guy out at Spec was it Spec Miata Dad that built one or had one, and he brought it to the go-kar track.
Yeah, that's what.
Yeah.
And but other than that, I got to ride in oh my gosh.
I can't remember the name of it right now.
It's not a Morgan.
Basically, like a really old British sports car that has no to it.
Yes.
Yes.
So you're old and British and up there with the Ariel Adam.
It had to be the Caterham, or I don't know how they pronounce it.
Of course, I am American, so I don't do accents really well, but it's Caterham 7.
And it's also on the list of cars that I would love to either drive andor own.
But being that I'm a blue-collar worker, I'll probably never own it.
You never know.
You never know.
Like, I mean, I I don't I it was it's cool.
I don't know if I would ever buy one, to be honest.
It it was neat.
It was a neat experience, but I vividly remember being in the seat as I'm coaching this guy, and I'm like, holy shit, if we crash, like I'm gonna die.
Not the the the highest in the safety protocols for that either.
One question about the aerial before we move on, because like I said, dream car.
Was it the supercharged version or was it just a natural aspirated version?
I think it was just a natural aspirated.
Still fast, not this was forever ago.
Honestly, it's so hard for me to even remember.
This was like I love the idea of that open like exoskeleton of the car.
Like that that's what drew me to that in the first place.
But yeah, I don't think it had a turbo because I I don't remember the feeling of the supercharged.
Sorry, I don't think it was.
Yeah, I don't think so.
Was that car available as a kit car?
Like I I remember seeing those on Motor Week actually, and part of me wonders if they were built in Maryland for some reason.
I don't know why.
I have no idea.
Okay.
Is that the one?
Yeah, Ariel Adam.
Yeah, so so the Ariel Adam that she that she was talking about, a local guy here in Grand Junction bought that car, and it was the car, it was the Ariel Adam that they had on top gear.
No kidding.
It was that car.
And so a guy here, matter of fact, I played golf, I see him golfing once a week, and and he bought that thing and then brought it out, ran it at our racetrack that we have here, and and and it was terrifying.
And poor Sabra had to ride with him in it.
And I mean, it was fast.
It was really cool.
It was really fast.
That's all I remember about it.
I was probably like, what, 15 at the time?
Yeah, yeah, and it was fast, and it was yeah, and and I think he ended up ultimately he crashed it and destroyed it.
It's the car that like completely distorted Jeremy.
And that was that things, yeah.
Yeah, that was the one that totally was distorting oh, what's his name?
Jeremy Clarkson.
Yeah, yeah.
Wow, yeah, it was pretty funny.
Matter of fact, he the guy that bought it went to Montreal, the F1 race, to watch Sabre race last year, and they flew out there and watched her race.
That was that was Ricky Hootrest's Saber that she with the car.
Oh, that that okay, gotcha.
Yeah, that was Ricky's car.
Wow.
Awesome.
Yeah.
And I I was I was just reading because I I knew I was wrong on so many facts.
This is an open-wheel car made by the British Aerial Motor Company based in Somerset, England, under license in North America by TMI Auto Tech at VIR.
Maybe they make them in Virginia.
Maybe they that's where they're looking.
There have been eight generations to date.
And uh looks like the most powerful version had about 500 horsepower.
They were really light too.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Really light.
Yeah.
Doesn't have the uh let's see, wait, wait, wait.
It felt like a go-kart when we were riding in it.
So curb weight 1,349 pounds.
So yeah, wow.
What it comes down to is just a road legal golf go-kart at that point.
Yeah.
That's all.
Yeah.
It's uh tuned by Lotus and you Lotus always had the philosophy, suspension-wise, do more with less.
So the lighter the better.
So definitely fits in the Lotus formula.
Absolutely.
So what was the most dangerous car you've been in, Stacy?
Okay.
So well, I have I have one of the new Corvettes, but that thing's just absolutely incredible.
And of course, I got uh Sabre set up last fall, opportunity for me to go drive her cup car for a day, which was unbelievable.
But but those two cars, I mean, they're just absolutely incredible vehicles and and handle and of course the Porsche is just But they're not really dangerous.
No, they're not dangerous.
But I had a so I during my career, you know, after my Dotson experience, and then I went from two Dotson pickups to a I was a proud owner of a of a a Conoline Ford van that I built out so I could put my bikes in the back and I had a sleeper in the front so I could sleep in the front.
And that's what I kind of took to start traveling, you know, doing the national stuffs in the beginning.
And but during that time period, I started making a little bit of money, you know, racing, and and for some dang reason, I ended up owning a 1963 Corvette coupe.
And honestly, those things were terrifying.
I did, they didn't handle well.
They I mean it was they were great for straight line.
That's they were, but man, I'll tell you what.
It yeah, it and of course, you know, it I never did actually crash it.
I had a wheel fall off at about 121.
So real of course I had eight girls in the car at the time.
So Saber is learning a lot about her dad.
Yeah, unfortunately.
No, I'm not I'm not sure.
I could tell it's not your shock face.
You're like, really?
Another one?
Another story to but it was that car was scary.
I mean, it was you know, fast and and uh but ill handling and just and of course I barely had enough money to put gas in it, so I shouldn't own it.
They call that being carpour, or is it crap?
Carpour, yeah.
So that was definitely my most terrifying car.
Yeah, and that was the uh split window.
It wasn't a split window.
Oh, it was not.
Yeah, no, it was it wasn't the split window.
It was actually it was a 65, not the 63.
Okay.
65 coupe, and you had the pipes down the side, and and it was red.
And of course, you know how those things are, those those cars are you and your colored cars.
I feel like that's just like a little target a little bit.
I had two red cars, and I think it was the second one.
I got like two speeding tickets in the same week, and I've never owned a red car since then.
They say that.
Of course, we got we we got a police officer here.
He can tell us if those are I don't know if he's allowed to tell us what they look for.
Like do you profile car colors, Dave?
Colors, no.
Depending on like where you are in the world, then maybe you know, it's like there's so Kiyas and Hyundai's uh or Hyundai's, however you want to pronounce it, those are the most commonly stolen vehicles.
So like we look at those closer.
Why are they the only stolen?
Are they easy to break into?
Yeah, easy to steal, as they were.
So like just you know, but those things.
But when it comes down to to colors, obviously colors draw your eye, but at the same time, like I end up I probably if I was gonna go through the statistics of the cars that I've stopped, I think I've stopped more white and silver vehicles than anything.
Wow, yeah.
It's like those two colors seem to be the the speed demons in the road, at least.
Silver my favorite color, or it was until I learned this.
So I drive pretty slow these days, but that's that's fine.
So speaking of speed, we want to talk about motorsports, if you will, with both of you.
You both got really unique backgrounds.
Stacy starting it and Saber, of course, taking it on, growing up with it and taking making it your own.
So, question for Stacy.
You started with the, and correct me if I'm wrong, I don't know bikes.
You started with a 60cc mini bike in Colorado, dirt bike, I guess.
And when did you realize that you weren't just a kid on a bike, but you were gonna be or felt like a professional racer?
Oh boy, probably so here in Colorado, and where we live in our local community here, we have we have a thousands of acres of open riding area out here, and so they always had motorcycle events out there and and as a kid, and and uh and I had a neighbor that was racing, and he would sign me up, he would sign for me to l so I could race.
So I raced a few different times without my parents knowing.
Wait, was this Raleigh?
Who was this?
No, it was his name was Melvin Cobb.
And I was like 12 years old, so I was, you know, and so my parents finally found out, but then they started getting behind it, you know.
Once they started seeing that, you know, I went I went to the 125 class and started, you know, winning through that and and and then made our first trip.
So we're racing locally and we're you know just a little podunk race with 50, 60 people, and and and we made our first trip to to the eastern slope to Denver Car Springs.
That's where all the big races were, and they'd have, you know, four to six hundred riders.
And of course, I went the first time and and got whooped pretty good.
I made the main, but I I got whipped pretty good and and mainly because I was scared.
I just had never been around that many riders.
And uh so then I gotta go back finally, you know, and and compete.
And and and suddenly, and it was the only time my dad in his entire life ever got mad at me because he could tell that I was just being so cautious.
And he he said something to me after the first moto when, you know, I was scared on the starts, and and he got a little mad at me, you know.
He goes, We're not gonna waste our time coming over here if you're not gonna give it a hundred percent.
And so the very next moto, I went out, pulled the whole shot, and won by a mile.
And and uh and it and then it was just like a trigger for me.
It was like, this is what I'm gonna do.
And and and then it was just I was gonna be a ski racer, you know, up to when I got into the motorcycle world.
I was gonna be a ski racer and I'd go to Aspen and and you know, stay up there in the winters a lot and ski race and and do different things.
We had friends up there, and and then when I once I discovered motorcycle racing and and just I was so addicted to it that from that point on that's all I did.
I 24 hours a day, seven days a week, I lived and breathed racing.
And you know, I so it everything my whole life was evolved around that.
I just everything I did was so that I could be better on the track, and which was a good thing.
But then, as Sabra will tell you, and you guys probably have seen, when you get where you just are so committed to a sport and to succeeding like that, your social life, your friends, everything, you have none of that.
You were it's seven days a week, 24 hours a day, if you're gonna be good and you're gonna be competitive.
And and that's just how we were.
That's just our whole life evolved around what we ate and you know how we trained.
And and of course, back then it was nothing like what Sabra and these motocross guys are doing now.
These guys, you know, their training is so much more sophisticated and focused.
And but that was my trigger.
That was at that point I knew I'm I'm gonna be a motorcycle racer.
And I wasn't smart enough to do anything else.
Yeah.
He says that, but he's pretty he's pretty smart.
You can pick up on it that he's holding back.
But just because he'd be if he didn't get hit in the head so many times, too.
Is that true, Stacy?
Hit in the head?
Yeah.
Well, landed on my head.
Landed on his head definitely too many times.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know how it is.
It comes with the territory.
That's part of part of the racing.
That's it.
That's the one downside of motorcycle racing is it's not if you get hurt, it's when and and how serious.
And you just you you know that.
And it's just uh But you're willing to take that risk.
It's amazing how you just are willing to to step up and take the risk and ride injured.
And, you know, you watch these national guys now, and it's just incredible, you know, some of the crashes they take, they get back up, and they're riding with, you know, with continuous injuries and and just but it's what you do.
You just are so obsessed with it.
It's just amazing.
Yeah.
And now you get to live live through your daughter.
Well, that's a hard the first time she ever really got in a car was at Homestead, and she did a skip barber test in a formula car.
I can't even remember what it was.
The skip barber old formula cars.
They weren't the F4 cars like they are now.
It's like the Barbara Dodge stuff.
Yeah, but she came by me on the straightaway the first time, and I literally had a panic attack.
And and suddenly I'm like, oh my god, what have I done?
And and and so it did, it scared me.
I mean, it it just really uh all of a sudden I realized that, you know, my my daughter is in love with this sport that is, I mean, it it could be fatal.
I mean, it you know, you you have to really think about that.
And as a parent, I'll tell you what, it's different when it's yourself because you know, but when it's your child, oh my gosh, it just But the the carting stuff never scared you?
No, carting stuff never no.
From from me coming from racing motorcycles and getting into a go-kart, I felt like I had for I could just I felt so safe compared to a motorcycle.
And and so I felt much safer with her carting than I definitely did when she once she got in a car.
That makes sense.
It does make sense, but I'm sure that it's like a double-edged sword at the same time because you're so proud and you know, you want to shout her from the rooftops like that's my daughter, and then you're thinking to yourself, she's in a position that could, you know, detriment her life, but at the same time you want her to keep pushing, you know?
Yeah, and you know, as she's so determined and just tenacious, you know, she just she just 24 hours a day, seven days a week, she lives and breathes racing and does whatever it takes to to accomplish that.
And and and and then I also knew coming from my background, uh, the downside of that.
You know, she's not gonna have this social life, she's not gonna go on family vacations, she's not gonna, you know, she is gonna be consumed because she's so driven that it will be her life.
Seven days a week, that's all she'll think about, and she'll live it, breathe it, and and and that is the consequences and the downside of of these athletes and these race car drivers, you know, that are trying to make it.
They they don't have a life outside of that.
And and you know, now that I'm out of racing and and I haven't been on a motorcycle since 1997.
And almost 30 years.
Yeah, yeah.
And I'm one of those guys, I mean 100% in it or I'm a hundred percent out.
And and I just couldn't do it for fun.
I couldn't, I just had to walk away from it.
And and but, you know, the day that she finally retires and and you know decides to become somewhat of a normal person.
I don't know if she'll ever be normal, but we knew that was coming.
But for her to enjoy just everything else lives has after racing, you know?
That's you know, that as a parent, that that's something that when that it comes, I'll be very happy.
So well, Sabra Sabra, we've been talking about you like you're not sitting there.
Let's bring you into the conversation a little bit.
Uh-huh.
You've conquered engineering and you've conquered some of the the the Porsche Cup.
If you could check one ultimate box in your career, what is a specific track or championship or milestone that you want for yourself?
What are you working towards like even now?
What is your do you see it happening for you?
For in the next few years, I'm focused on entering into IMSA or WEC full time and doing like for me, I really want to do 24 hours of Daytona, 24 hours of Lama, and 24 hours of Nerbergreen.
Wow.
Wow.
I've done some endurance stuff, but never full time in the series.
I did I've done two races on the Nordschleifer as well.
So I'm I'm working my way there.
It just unfortunately takes a lot of sponsorship to get there.
Yeah.
You'll get it.
You'll get it.
Yeah, you it's one of those things where anything anything is possible if you have the the drive.
And I feel like as far as you've come already, you obviously have the drive.
You'll figure out a way to get there for yourself and for your team and everybody.
So just keep working.
It might not, you know, it might not be tomorrow, but I I bet it'll happen in your in your future for sure.
That that's the plan.
I uh my motto, I feel like, ever since I was a kid was I'll figure it out.
So that's what I'm planning on doing.
That's awesome.
I love that outlook too.
It's like, you know, it's one of those you're not a quitter, so you know, it might not happen today, but we'll figure it out.
And I love that.
I love that.
And for someone who builds and drives these machines, do you think the soul of racing is safe as we move towards a more digital and electric future?
I'm not sure.
I would like to think that the recent surgence of the popularity of like F1 motorsports in general is kind of helping people understand why why we love it so much and why it needs to stay around.
But, you know, we are seeing in a unique situation right now, especially in Formula One, where it's, you know, it's kind of an in-between.
It's a lot closer to Formula E than it used to be.
And a lot of people are not happy about that.
So I guess maybe a good indication of what the trajectory is going to be is how things develop after this season in Formula One if they continue to if they'll change the regulations to go back to a little more traditional, or if we're going to keep going down this path.
But I I I don't get super excited about the idea of watching a bunch of AI robots race around against each other.
Because ultimately, like the reason why people watch sports and and everything is they they get very invested in in the story, and I think it would be hard to be invested in a robot story.
So I'm hoping that the that everyone just kind of wants to continually at least if the cars change, whatever, if the technology keeps adapting and becoming more sustainable, that's fine.
But I I just hope that we don't we don't remove the driving.
Yeah.
I like that answer.
So because I mean it's it's one thing watching drones race, but it's if they're doing it autonomically, it's not as fun because it's computer learning and not somebody somebody behind the controls.
So I love that idea.
Yeah, I mean the whole whole idea behind sports is we we love them and we get inspired by them because it's the it's the peak of humanity.
It's like we always are we want to be impressed and inspired by what a human can achieve.
And I think that if we take the human element out of it, we we lose that.
Yeah, 100% for sure.
Yeah.
I I I agree wholly and I I think about my daily driver, Tesla.
Super fast, it does everything great.
It's really pretty boring to drive.
Totally boring.
Other than when you can accelerate.
I mean, that that's fun, but I feel like it would probably maybe get old after a bit.
Yeah, it gets old.
I drive in chill mode because even in the standard mode, it just it it just maybe maybe I'm showing my age and like, what's the point?
And I I was telling somebody when I got my first Tesla, I remember Subaru STI, WRX STIs pulling up next to me, and I'm like, dude, you didn't even want to bother.
Like, no, it's not even worth it.
You can't even trust it.
And it takes and it takes the fun out of things for sure.
Like to your point, where where's that human element?
Or I love I wrote down what you said about sports being the, you know, it shows off the peak of what humanity is capable of.
Yeah.
It is interesting because a lot of motorsports they uh with the cars getting better, it does allow like, you know, the the bronzes and the ams to be closer to the pros, which in some ways can be great, but it also it does take away the when someone is truly talented and can really extract the performance out of a out of a difficult vehicle.
So it's it I guess there are pros and cons to all of it.
So so on on that topic, uh closing out the our motorsports part, what advice would you have?
And I'm thinking about cars and about families, what advice would you have for somebody who's interested in getting into motorsports who doesn't have maybe the background that your that your father has, right?
Which obviously very valuable to somebody, but somebody who's thinking about it, maybe they just want to do a weekends thing, maybe they're they're me, they're in their early 50s, and by go do, go do.
I have done autocross, but I think I'm gonna get into some track stuff that requires a car.
So I get excited about that.
But for for anybody who, whether they're starting out, whether they're live in, let's say, Colorado, and they just have access to that that type of environment.
So you're asking specifically as a driver, not just in general?
I would say as a driver.
Okay.
So as a driver, obviously sometimes it kind of depends on your age and what you have available to you.
But I I do think carding is still an amazing initial pathway.
But not just carding.
I think it's it's really critical.
Like whether you're someone who wants to eventually become a pro or you want to do it for just for fun, I think it's important to either start in carting or, you know, like you mentioned, go do an autocross.
Have find local car clubs, car groups that can get you connected to people that are in the space, love the sport, and you can learn quickly because you know, there's there's a lot to learn.
So surrounding yourself with good people initially is very, very important, just so you can make sure you're on the trajectory and you can get where you're going quickly.
But I also highly recommend getting a simulator because the seat time in real life, unfortunately, costs a lot of money.
But a sim, once you have the sim and you've got your iRacing or your Recetto course, and once you have the software, then you know, there is no additional cost in theory on top of doing as many laps as you want to.
And there's a lot of skills that you can build through a simulator.
So I think taking advantage of that is also really important as well, if you want to get really get into it and take it seriously as a driver.
Yeah, I was I was gonna ask you about sim racing because I now that once I did it and I did it on an MX5 Cup League, I only went once just because of time.
But I got hooked and I'm immediately like, man, I know somebody who has a Miata for sale.
I wonder, or it's not for sale, but it's been sitting a long time.
You'd probably sell it to me for some Miattas are great.
I know Miata's always the answer.
Yeah, I I I actually have a 1.6
liter spec still that's it's sitting at the track in Colorado.
It is for sale, that's it.
Well, yeah, 1990 Miata was my first convertible, and I I love that car.
Yeah, they're they're great cars.
They're a hundred percent recommend.
Like if that's it, that's a perfect route for anybody that's interested in getting started track days.
You can get a you can get a decent spec Miata and it's pretty cheap to maintain and run, and there's places you can race them all over the country.
So it's it's a good way to get into it.
Okay.
I will I will blame you, but not really blame you because something something's gonna happen soon.
And I know where one is, only a few blocks from my house.
It's been sitting.
I think he needs to part with it.
But th thank you for that.
Yeah, I have to say the the sim racing and We were gonna actually have the the co-founder, co-owner of the local sim racing place in Annapolis, Maryland on the show soon.
He participated in the uh Gran Turismo Academy.
So he like that movie Gran Turismo, he was actually one of those guys who won in I wanna say he said 2014, but uh it was just so much fun.
And being in the sim races are impressive.
Yeah.
And being in a league and just, hey, I'm passing you on.
I got passed a lot, so I heard that a lot in my headset.
But man, it was so much fun.
And just what the the amount of feedback you get from those rigs, a good one, is off the charts.
Well, we've talked about how technology can be a hindrance but also a help.
And then and as far as technology has come, the amount of actual physics that are implint implanted into these simulators is like so crazy where because you can learn how the car in real life will react because the amount of time they put into the physics where it's not it's not the old N64 where the car will just you know hug a curve like they've put in gravity and and ever and you know tire wear and everything into it.
So it can help you in the long run train and it's a lot cheaper, like Sabre said.
You can do lap after lap after lap, it's not gonna cost you any money.
But yeah, and I'll I'll I'll add to that, Dave.
Sorry, you got me you got me going that uh like one day I did a FDRX7 and you know I'm just the the owner said, you know, these cars don't have a lot of torque, so make sure you you know rev it up, dump the clutch, and he's like burn the brakes.
And I'm like, wait, he just told me in a simulator how to drive, how drive the car like you would a normal car.
And then I drove a Miata and like just the big differences between the two and what as you you know, physics that are factored into the software themselves.
So well, obviously, we've been talking for a while, and I don't want to keep these lovely people from their actual lives.
So the last question we always ask everybody, and I'm can't wait to hear your guys' answers.
This is for both of you, and you guys can pick who wants to go first.
What is your dream car?
We already know that on my list is uh an aerial atom.
So what is what is y'all's dream car?
Do you want to go first, Ed?
No, go ahead.
Okay.
My dream car is a 9-11 DLS stinger.
I think I would probably want it in peppermint green.
It's ironic because I don't know if the if at nobody could probably see this, but I am wearing a peppermint green shirt today.
So it's like one of my favorite colors.
But yeah, that's that would be my dream car.
It's you know, just a casual, like probably two million dollars.
So we're we're gonna work up to that.
But those are great cars, just taking that 964 and reimagining it as Singer would say.
Reimagined by Singer.
How about you, Stacey?
Well, I'll tell you, I I became a pretty big Porsche fan after driving her car for the day.
So now my my I guess my dream car is the new Corvette, the new ZR1 or the ZR1 X.
And I've been trying to figure out how to get my hands on one, but of course haven't been successful.
But that thing is amazing, I think.
So that's that's the one to have, one to do incredible.
You guys had that like in the chamber ready to go, and I love that because a lot of people are like, well, no, you guys knew.
So I want this and I love it.
And with determination, those are both a chain of obtainable goals.
So I I hope you both see that happening.
Probably more obtainable than me getting an aerial atom.
But never never knew, Dave.
I'll find one in a junkyard and put it back together.
That's how that's gonna go.
We knew we know a guy who can help you.
We asked the question in the first indie 500 in 1911.
What did the driver put household item on the dashboard?
Did you guys want to take a stab at it?
Your question is what is the item or who was the driver?
Because you you already said it was Ray Haroom.
Yeah, so the driver we yeah, that was in the question.
The item.
What was the I I mean, I know what it is, but I don't want to spoil it if my dad doesn't.
Do you know what it is, then?
Well, to me, it would either be a mirror or uh guess, Stacey.
Oh yeah, I want to know what the other one is.
Well oh well, I'm trying to think.
Okay, if it if it's not an actual you know, glass mirror, what could they use?
You know, a stainless steel something.
I mean you have quite sure what all that you're you're on it.
Yeah, it was the rear view mirror, and specifically it was a three by eight inch mirror intended for horse carriage.
So remember, it was 1911.
So like there wasn't a lot of options, yes.
That's hilarious.
I know why didn't they think that through?
Like the uh the so the car that he won in, the Marmon Wasp is actually in the center of the roundabout that's like maybe 10 minutes from my house.
It's like a a statue, so he's like forever immortalized in.
Okay, awesome.
Small world around the corner from your house.
And that was not intentional to ask a question about that particular driver for your episode.
So I mean, I'm in Indianapolis, so it is like the odds of there being something tied to it is is pretty large.
It's pretty close, yeah.
Well, as we gently steer the podcast into the the pit lane, we wanted to thank our fantastic guests, Stacy and Saber, for truly sensational duo, for being a truly sensational duo.
We all want to see our kids have the best opportunities in life and the more than we did.
And I would say that this father-daughter team honors that spirit 100%.
So thank you guys for being here.
And for you guys, where is the best place for our l listeners to find you in the online and or offline world?
Where you like, where can we follow your career?
Well, for me, it's sabercookracing.com.
From there, all my socials are linked.
And there is a special Easter egg for anybody that wants to go and find it.
If you click on my about page, there's a picture of me on my dad's motorcycle when I was three months old.
So you can see see him.
He's on a vintage one, though.
It's not one of his like it wasn't one of his current race bikes, but it is it is an adorable photo.
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About this episode
Back-to-back stories connect motorsport engineering, family racing roots, and classic-car memories. Saber Cook is introduced as “a mechanical engineer” who designed suspension parts for the Renault F-1 team and can “build a car, break it down” and drive a 500-horsepower 911 GT3 Cup. Stacey Cook shares a terrifying 1963 Corvette coupe moment (including a wheel “fall off at about 121”), plus early dirt-bike progression, road-trip navigation without GPS, and how modern safety gear evolved from riding mechanics to HANS.
A Father’s Day Special: The Unbreakable Bond of a Racing Family
Happy Father’s Day! This week on To All The Cars I've Loved Before, we are celebrating the ultimate father-daughter racing duo. We’re sitting down with Sabré Cook—a mechanical engineer and professional driver for JDX Racing in the Porsche Carrera Cup North America—and her dad, Stacey Cook, a former professional motocross rider who was inducted into the Colorado Motorsports Hall of Fame in 2023.
In this episode, we dive deep into the Cook family’s high-octane history. Stacey shares his incredible journey from racing a $800, 200,000-mile Datsun pickup across Colorado with dirt bikes in the back, to the terrifying realization of watching his own daughter speed past him in a formula car. Sabré discusses her disciplined path to the driver's seat (which required straight A's just to get a Chevy Equinox!), her ultimate goal to race in the 24 Hours of Le Mans, and why she believes a $2 Million Porsche 911 DLS Singer is the ultimate dream car.
Whether you are looking to get into track days yourself or just want to hear a heartwarming story about a father who supported his daughter's drive to the top, this episode is packed with life lessons, laughs, and serious horsepower.
In this episode, we cover:
Stacey's wild early days: Street racing a 1965 Corvette and surviving cross-country trips in an orange Datsun.
Safety Evolution: The shocking differences between a 1970s Datsun and Sabré's modern safety cocoon.
How to start racing: Sabré's advice on using simulators (like iRacing and Assetto Corsa) and buying a Mazda Miata to build track skills on a budget.
The emotional toll of motorsports: Stacey opens up about the sacrifices Sabré makes to be a pro driver, working 24/7 with little social life.
Trivia: What common safety feature was invented out of necessity at the very first Indy 500 in 1911?.
Follow Sabré Cook: Check out her website and find the hidden Easter egg photo of her at 3 months old on her dad's vintage motorcycle: sabrecookracing.com.
