They Think He's a Righteous Dude! - DWA! Podcast Ep. #920
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Unimog
The Unimog is a special truck made by Mercedes-Benz that can drive on rough ground and is used for many different jobs.
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FJ40
The FJ40 is an older model of Toyota's Land Cruiser, famous for being tough and good at driving off-road.
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Honda Civic
The Honda Civic is a small car that many people like because it's dependable and gets good gas mileage.
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Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution
The Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution, or Evo, is a fast car that was designed for racing and has a lot of fans. It's known for being powerful and fun to drive.
Car
Hyundai Santa Cruz
The Hyundai Santa Cruz is a smaller truck that looks like a mix between a pickup and an SUV. It's great for people who want the benefits of a truck but don't need something too big.
Concept
Zagato
Zagato is a company in Italy that designs special car bodies. They make cars look unique and often lighter, which can help them go faster.
Part
plexiglass panel
A plexiglass panel is a clear plastic that is strong and light. It's often used in cars to cover things like headlights, making them look good while protecting them.
Term
Euro H4 lenses
Euro H4 lenses are special headlight covers that help you see better at night. They are often used on European cars and look good too.
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E30 M3
The E30 M3 is a special version of the BMW 3 Series that was made for racing and performance. It's known for being fun to drive and has a strong following among car lovers.
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Volvo 240
The Volvo 240 is a classic car made by Volvo that was popular for its sturdy build and unique shape. Many people appreciate it for its reliability and vintage style.
Car
Volvo 242
The Volvo 242 is a small car made by Volvo that was popular in the late 1970s and early 1980s. It's known for its unique shape and is considered rare today.
Term
turbo
A turbo is a part of some car engines that helps them go faster by pushing more air into the engine. This allows the engine to burn more fuel and create more power.
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Volvo 850 R
The Volvo 850 R is a special version of the Volvo 850, which is a family car. It's known for being fast and fun to drive, while still being practical enough for everyday use.
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BMW 325i
The BMW 325i is a car known for being fun to drive and having a comfortable interior. It's part of the BMW 3 Series, which is a line of cars that many people like for their sporty feel.
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BMW 325
The BMW 3 Series is a small luxury car that is known for being fun to drive and comfortable. It's been around for a long time and is popular among people who like sporty cars.
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Saab 9-3
The Saab 9-3 is a car made by the Swedish company Saab. It's known for being stylish and having powerful engines, making it popular among car lovers.
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Nissan 300 ZX
The Nissan 300 ZX is a cool sports car from the late 80s and 90s that is known for being fast and stylish. It's part of a family of cars called Z-cars that many people love.
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Saab 900 Turbo
The Saab 900 Turbo is a car made by Saab that has a turbocharged engine, which gives it more power. It's known for its unique look and was popular for many years.
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Lotus Esprit Turbo
The Lotus Esprit Turbo is a fast sports car made by Lotus. It's known for its stylish look and great handling, making it a favorite among car lovers.
Term
Radwood era cars
Radwood is a term used to describe cars from the 1980s and 1990s that people love. It's like a celebration of the cool cars from when many of us were growing up.
Car
Chevy Malibu Max Super Sport
The Chevy Malibu Max Super Sport is a sportier version of the regular Malibu. It has features that make it look and feel more athletic while still being a practical car for everyday use.
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Porsche Carrera GT
The Porsche Carrera GT is a supercar made by Porsche, famous for its speed and handling. It has a unique engine and is highly sought after by car enthusiasts.
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Porsche 911
The Porsche 911 is a famous sports car that looks really cool and drives fast. It's been around for a long time and is loved by many people for how well it handles on the road.
Term
rebuilder
A rebuilder is someone who fixes car parts to make them work like new again. They take apart the parts, fix what's broken, and put them back together.
Term
remand
Remand parts are used car parts that have been fixed up to work again. Sometimes they are not as good as new parts, and you might not know if they are reliable.
Car
Jaguar Mark I
The Jaguar Mark I is an old luxury car from the 1950s that is known for looking very stylish and being a nice car to drive. It's one of the early models that helped make Jaguar famous.
Car
Porsche 914
The Porsche 914 is a sporty car from the 1970s that has its engine in the middle, which helps it handle well. It's often seen as a more affordable option for people who want a Porsche.
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Chevrolet Monte Carlo
The Chevrolet Monte Carlo is a stylish two-door car that was popular for many years. It's known for being comfortable to drive and has a classic American car feel.
Car
Porsche Cayenne
The Porsche Cayenne is a fancy SUV that can drive well in snow and other tough conditions. It's a good choice for people who want a powerful car that can also carry passengers and cargo.
Term
all-wheel drive
All-wheel drive means that all four wheels of the car get power from the engine at the same time. This helps the car grip the road better, especially in bad weather like snow.
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Porsche Panamera
The Porsche Panamera is a fancy car that has four doors and is designed to be both fast and comfortable. It's like a sports car but with more space inside.
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Audi Rs3
The Audi RS 3 is a fast and sporty version of a smaller Audi car. It's designed to be fun to drive while still being comfortable and luxurious.
Car
Porsche 959
The Porsche 959 is a super-fast sports car from the late 80s that had some really advanced features for its time. It's famous for being one of the quickest cars you could buy back then.
Car
Audi Quattro
The Audi Quattro is a sporty car that was one of the first to have all-wheel drive, which helps it grip the road better. It's famous for winning races and is loved by car fans.
Concept
mechanical sympathy
Mechanical sympathy means having a good understanding of how machines work and taking care of them properly. It’s about knowing what a machine needs to run well.
Term
rev limiter
A rev limiter is a safety feature in cars that stops the engine from spinning too fast. If the engine goes beyond a certain speed, the rev limiter kicks in to prevent damage.
Car
Ford Explorer
The Ford Explorer is a big family car that can carry a lot of people and stuff. It's been around since the 1990s and is known for being useful for road trips and everyday driving.
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What about the people that put their fingers over the license plate?
Keiichi Tuchiya.
Those cars have such a cute little face, you know?
It's like a little salamander or something, you know?
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My name is Warren.
I'm Lane.
And I'm Mark.
Who we I was a, I don't know.
Best morning motors ever.
I'm just going to say it after every one ever.
I think you might be right, dude.
I the yeah, dude, it was like the, it was like that Ferris Bueller,
like the dweebs, the dickheads, the boner, you know, it's like all the good,
the goos, the punks, they all adore.
They like, there was these like cool little niches everywhere
and everyone got along and there was like no real shenanigans.
It was a really good show, dude.
Morning Motors is a righteous dude.
Yeah, yeah, he's a righteous dude.
Yeah, because we've been overwhelmed by certain groups of cars,
which is inevitable, like they're just going to come rolling hard
and that looked almost like it was going to go that way.
I was like, oh no.
And then it was a really great mix.
I had a great time.
I had to leave early, but I saw that you took some great photos, Lane,
and it looked like it just stayed solid.
Yeah, dude, there was a Land Rover contingent on that front,
like a patio area and like off-roaders.
There was that, what's it called?
The big wagon, the German wagons, Unimog and that parked like right in front,
you know, it kind of like parked in the driving road area, the parking lot,
and right in front of like a GT3 RS.
So that was a nice little juxtaposition.
And then there was a couple old Land Rovers, FJ40 over there.
And then there's like the sedan boys with like the Lexuses and stuff
and the Hondas, Honda Civics, just a perfect amount, dude.
Yeah. And then there was all the VW guys rolled in.
You know what's weird is I got there early-ish and you were kind of...
Yeah, you were there really early.
Yeah, so we were kind of setting up and stuff,
but usually by eight o'clock, there's about 15 cars, 12 cars, something like that.
There was like nobody there, maybe like two cars.
830 is still pretty quiet.
Then like right at nine, it was just packed.
You know, it's like one of those things, steady stream of cars.
So it was an unusual timing of arrivals, but that was a good time.
No, it was good, dude. Ruben rolled through and is in his Evo.
There was another Evo there.
There was like that crazy wild, that white thing that always has a crowd around.
It came at the end.
It's a Mesa.
Mesa one.
Mesa one.
It's so freaking cool.
I mean, I got to say though, you guys did get a ton of variety and like it sounds like
you got checked a lot of boxes, but no soshis, no greasers, no jets.
Dude.
Well, Lane was there.
There was Azante, so that was there.
Azante, there was that, you know, that Thunderbird always.
Oh yeah.
That thing is freaking.
What do you call that thing?
Crop tops and big blocks.
It says on the side of it.
Hell yeah.
That's very, very Santa Cruz though.
I feel like that might be our version or our generation's version of the double
stacked bus, the hippie bus.
Like yeah, you might be right.
It has a vibe.
It's cool.
It's a good fun car to like photograph and be around.
Yeah, it's there was a little like like a Hoonigan little kids Jeep in a spot.
It's kind of funny.
Huh?
I took a picture of it.
I saw them getting that off the truck.
Yeah.
Getting ready.
There was a that cool alpha dude, that blue alpha with the body by Zagato.
Yeah, there's a little group of classic alphas that make the track and I talked
to them right when he arrived.
They were early and said, what's up?
And they said, yeah, drove great and happy to get it out.
So yeah, little Zagato body thing.
Yeah, those are cool.
Did it have the headlight covers on it?
Yeah, it did.
Yeah.
It's a nice look.
I mean, it's kind of a cool option.
You could, you could see like an E 30 pulling that off pretty well.
So it's a plexiglass panel that goes across the entire grill and headlights with some
like air vent holes punched into it in a cool way.
That's really neat.
Yeah.
There's the color.
It was like a little bit darker than the Laguna Seca blue kind of.
Yeah.
There's a, I don't know if I don't think it was DTM.
It might have been a BTCC where E 30.
Some E 30s ran a plexi cover on the on the lenses or I mean on the headlights.
I've considered doing it.
It just screws directly into the black portion of the grill.
Yeah.
And there's some kits out there because it, especially for the rallies, you know,
like the 30, like my, my glass, you know, I have Euro H four lenses on there.
They're getting beat up.
So it makes a lot of sense.
It looks good.
I deleted those fog lights and just put the covers, which I think look good.
It kind of clean.
It's a clean look.
If you want to go that route, but because they're just going to get thrashed for sure.
Makes sense.
Yeah.
I have a 36 and so I, I think I told you guys that real quick on the,
the M tech air dam has the, you know, there's unique fog lights.
And I think, you know, that this kit is a replica, just the air dam.
So the fog lights, they provide a really chintzy, like Chinese ones that are like all
clear, like, you know, not, they don't look right.
So I just like, I'm like, you know what, I couldn't get a hold of the E 30 M three
ones, which is what fit in there.
So I just put grip tape over them.
So I put the Chinese ones in there, but so you can't really tell that it's not a
cover, like at first glance and I take a bunch of pictures of it.
No one notices.
It's like really hard to tell.
And yeah.
And it's very rugged too, right?
So I like it.
It's my, my fog light delete.
Nice.
Did you want to cover more of your day there, Lane?
Or do you want to get into some questions?
I mean, we can, I mean, after the show, it was kind of like, we always, you know,
a group of people always go to like it beers or whatever.
Usually it's like humble seat on the street or something like that.
But it was, you know, we end this thing at 10 30.
So it was pretty early, dude.
And like a lot of places aren't open.
There's that gap where you have to like kind of go, well, everything opens 11.
We've done it like a parish.
Exactly.
So we'll be like, yeah, should we hang around a little more or whatever?
Yeah.
We did parish a couple, like last month or something.
So when we got Seabright Motors last month, we ended up going to Brady's Yacht Club
for a bit and everyone seemed to be enamored by it.
So they're like, let's go to that place we went to last time.
So we all went to Brady's Yacht Club at 11 a.m.
And yeah, it was a good 15 people already getting smashed.
That's late.
I know, dude.
Actually, there wasn't anyone really that smashed was just like, you know,
and it wasn't that busy sat out of the patio like perfect sunny.
Yeah.
It ended up being a perfect day.
It was awesome.
It was supposed to be really overcast.
The day before was like the best, nicest day ever.
But this ended up being almost that and sat on the patio and then walk next door
and got sandwiches at Seabright Deli.
It was like, it was a good afternoon.
And then I was two blocks away from my house.
So I just went home.
It's perfect.
Okay.
I have to share something about warning motors.
I was looking at the pictures.
I love that Ruben is so like not like a car show person.
You know, he just like drove in like nosed in like whatever.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's all dirty.
Like yeah.
It's like it's one of the most prominent spots to read at this entrance
there on the left.
Yeah.
And Thomas Illek dude.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
Well, it was it was full dude.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
So he came.
He's not on Instagram anymore, but I had he I saw him at a morning motors like a few
months ago and then I saw him at capital cars and coffee recently.
But yeah, he was kind of out on the street and then he actually moved it into the main
lot later when there was room.
Hell yeah.
I was leaving.
He was on mission going to the show and he was racing a newer BMW three series.
No way.
Stoplight to stoplight allegedly like full blast.
He won't hear this anyway, but I think it's awesome to see.
And then I will say I've looked around at 240 Volvos.
Like I have a search.
I always kind of keep an eye on them.
Not that I'm going to buy one, but just like old Volvos in general.
And yeah.
A early 240 like he has.
He has a smog example.
He has a 242 specifically 242 Volvo.
Yes, but a early 75.
I think yeah.
It's like a 74.
Anyways, it's they are so rare.
I don't know how he found that car.
Like that is the like honestly, I've only seen one other for sale and it was roached out
like not even worth looking at, but he really has a super unique car.
It's like that just unique year.
There is a is it a is it a 242 GT?
Like that, that one edition they made in 79 racing stripe on it.
And it's got a bunch of cool little things, right?
Like different steering wheel and like performance mods.
I'm not power, but just like, you know, upgrades.
Yeah.
There's one that I see that I drive by like at least, you know, like twice a week.
And I have no interest in it personally, but as you're saying, I know how rare those
are and I wonder if they know what they have because it's like street parked
and like they use around, but it's like a car that the person drives regularly.
So yeah, we had a customer, but my old, my first shop and we worked on a lot of
Volvos and there's just a guy that that was his car and he just kept it going and
it would yeah, that thing will go forever.
Obviously we all know that, but they're cool.
And I think if you were to modify one and make it interesting, it could be
something, but it always feels like with those cars, you're behind the eight ball
so hard.
Like just right off the bat, even even the turbo is just a heavy, heavy car.
I do.
I was just going to say, I saw an 850 R wagon.
There's a white one in town, Lane probably knows it too, but it was driving down West
Cliff and I was like, man, that looks good.
I do love it.
Yeah.
I do love those.
But also somebody's car, just like a, yeah.
It's a family that lives in midtown and the wife drives it most of the time,
but I see it just around and it's yeah, just a car.
They also have a two, a 240 turbo wagon as well.
By the way, I will mention, so I on, on Radwood's Instagram, I posted a Volvo ad
from like the, from 94.
Yeah.
I don't know if you saw it first BMW, it's rad.
It's Donald Sutherland.
Supposedly Donald Sutherland took that job pro bono because a Volvo saved his life
and he was in a bunch of Volvo ads in that period of time from like 93 to 97 or
something.
But you know, it's him talking about how it's faster than a BMW 325 I and like,
and the BMW is saying like, I'm fast and all this and they're like, okay,
I work faster.
All the comments are some of the comments that BMW fanboys are so fucking ridiculous,
dude.
They're like, they're like, that's bullshit.
A three thirty I would smoke that thing.
You're like a three thirty I you mean E forty six that came out where they were
supposed to predict the future, dude.
This is an ad from 94.
They're like, oh, I always found it funny.
They didn't put it up against an M three like there wasn't an M three, dude.
Like it's so like all this shit.
I frustrates the hell.
Well, you know, it just goes to show that over here on the dwa side of things,
we have a much, much more hardcore like car like nerd community, right?
Whereas like Radwood encompasses like a lifestyle and there are car adjacent
people that are into cars, but not as much as we are.
And like, yeah, it's it is it is funny.
There there's some ignorance out there.
But yeah, I did appreciate that ad.
It's super rad.
I also like the crazy people one that you threw up.
But yeah, dude, crazy people has so many good ones though.
Like it doesn't fit Radwood, but there's that the guy that's obsessed with sob.
Yeah.
And like all he wants is a seventy seven sob nine.
What?
What is that a nine ninety nine or whatever that?
That's so good.
And then like the Porsche ads actually pretty good Jaguar is great, but you can't,
you know, it's like it's talking about getting jerked off into Jaguar.
So it doesn't really work for Radwood Instagram or anything.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So in the Porsche, the other Porsche one is like you can't.
It's too small to have sex in, but you'll have sex the second you step out.
That doesn't really work.
You know, it's a little too.
Yeah.
A little racy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But I like it's funny because it's like there's a few people that have posted on
those are like, dude, I never saw that movie and now I watched it and like, you
know, they never saw a rad before when I posted a rat and then they've they've
never seen it looks.
That's cool.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Kill one was great too.
And it looks like kills just like all time, dude.
Those cars, like how good is that scene, dude?
Like sob 900 turbo, 300 ZX and a Lotus a spree turbo.
Shout out to people making a really expensive detailed movies for 12 year olds
dude straight up.
Yeah.
The next level when you're like your audience is literally an 11 year old boy.
Yeah.
They're like, we want to make James Bond, but for 11 year olds.
Yeah.
And then call these two Ace Ventura.
It's like that is not for adults.
No, not even close.
We're young at heart.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's crazy that those were made.
All right.
Question time.
You have questions.
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If you guys ever want to ask us a question driving awesome on Instagram
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Richard Chen are Chen.
So sorry.
That lucky bastard's going to retro retro mobile currently.
I believe anyhow.
He says your daily driver must prominently display a bumper sticker.
What will yours say?
Hashtag coexist.
All right.
I got two for you and I don't.
I don't like bumper stickers as you might know.
I don't really put stickers on my car unless I have to or really want to,
but I usually I'll put it on a glass.
I'm a window sticker guy, but bumper sticker.
How about this one?
Beef.
It's how the West was one.
You've seen those just like beef.
That's all it says.
And then how the West was one.
That's a solid one.
And then this one, this is the, I hate this bumper sticker,
but a tear a lot of people up is the one that says earth,
but art is like highlighted because it's in the word.
Oh yeah.
You could use that one just for yourself.
That'd be good.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like on a water bottle or something.
Shoot man.
That's pretty good.
Yeah.
I'll see if I can find that for you art because I know you've probably been
looking.
I do.
It's been years.
Yeah.
So I've found one.
Um,
I think our wants.
I eat ass probably.
I should also say that my daily driver is a truck.
That's where the beef thing gave it a play.
Dude.
I actually, I was, I was, dude, I was going to go with beep.
If you boop, you know, um, no, but, um, you know, I already do it.
I kind of already have it.
Like I would do a two, no, no crust one, but I already have a license
plate frame.
Like I would rock a two, no, no crust bumper sticker.
But the other one that I would want is because it,
it resonates with me so much.
Like as a kid seeing visual visualized world peace.
I love that one so much.
I would totally rock that cruise.
So wait, you got to explain the two, no, no crust for people that
don't know what it references like me.
Dude, people don't know.
I don't really know.
No, come on.
I know it's fast and furious, but I don't know like,
well, it's so, it's a scene where Paul Walker is he,
he orders a character named sandwich at this place and it's the
little store and that's where, where, um, let he works and you
know, and it's, there's a little chemistry there and then the
brother walks in and he's like, like bullshit.
Like no one likes tuna here, you know, and, and so it's just,
this is weird, funny, stupid, like, uh, you know, um,
very tacky scene.
Um, and then, um, yeah.
And then they proceed to get into a fist fight, which is even
more hilarious.
Like the whole lead up to that is really funny.
Um, but it's a, yeah.
So it's just like him like, it's like him like basically saying,
like, no, I, I, I, I not only do I like the tuna here, give me one
tuna, no crust right now, order it.
Um, but it's just a stupid line.
World peace, tuna, crust, Lane, your daily driver.
Oh yeah.
It's a poll star.
Huh. That's kind of like, that makes it a little like, how about
I bought this before Elon, Elon went crazy.
I've seen that on Jaguar's and it's pretty like different,
different ones.
You're like, okay.
Okay.
How about Elon poll star crew or whatever?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That would work pretty well.
I mean, I was going to say, I was just like Cowboys, butts,
drumming nuts, but that's a good one because I always, I've always
partial to that one.
What about save a horse ride a cowboy?
Oh, that one's really good.
That's pretty good.
How about gas or cash?
Well, no gas on that one.
You need.
I know.
I know.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't know what else to say.
Oh, I like the president one.
So maybe like Dan Gurney for president.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Exactly.
But I would put it would be like Ralph Nader for president,
right on the poll star.
Right.
Oh, excuse me.
That'd be really awesome.
That'd be really lame.
Yeah.
Very lol.
MPG.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Bay Area pro for X says, do you see a future where the age limit on
Radwood era cars advances because I want to bring a Chevy Malibu
Max super sports.
They made a super sport.
I'm going to look that up.
What's a super sport?
That's the hatchback thing.
Isn't it?
Yeah.
That is.
You don't want to know.
It's too.
It's too racy for this podcast.
That's kind of sweet actually, dude.
It looks very European.
It's good.
This could be an opal or something.
Yeah.
It's like they just need to reduce all the surfaces by like 10%.
Well, especially tighter.
The eyes and the tail lights are always too big, right?
It's like very.
I always think of like Pixar when I see these cars, like they're so
exaggerated.
Those are lights actually.
They're not eyes.
Yep.
Well, yeah, it's answers question though.
Radwood is Radwood, right?
It's a specific era, but we are looking at celebrating, you know,
more modern classics in a different way.
And that'll be announced very soon, but it is.
I don't think Malibu Max is going to make the cut this time around.
Or is it?
I don't know.
Ward.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I don't know.
Oh yeah, it will.
Definitely could.
So that would be the type of cars and it would have to be a Malibu
Max SS.
That's the one they have.
Hey guys, count me out.
No, we're going to get you.
We're getting you in there.
You're going to have your Carrera GT.
Yeah.
We'll get you in there, buddy.
911 Decoto.
Decoto.
Am I saying that right?
Sure.
With aftermarket parts being questionable these days,
does it make sense to find rebuilders either local or within the
states rather than resort to remand items from overseas,
even if the part is an improvement?
For example, a lighter 911 high torque starter.
I'm getting mine rebuilt at San Jose starter and alternator.
Yeah, I think if you have good rebuilders in your region area and
you have a huge pain in the ass, absolutely.
Like that we used to use that for all alternators all the time.
There's a place in, I think it was just called Oakland,
Oakland alternators or can't remember,
but that was a place that we would send stuff to all the time.
They would actually even come and pick it up and deliver.
And you know, a lot of that stuff,
transmissions and things like that are usually better to go to a
really skilled rebuilder rather than a,
buy a new crappy one or remand.
Cause Lane, you just went through some remand.
I mean, the remand stuff is horrible.
Like I just think that's just, yeah, they're painting over grounds.
They're, they're grinding off parts of it.
Yeah, they're not replacing some parts cause they can't literally
can't get them or they, you know, they can't do it on scale.
Yeah. They're just putting stuff together broken.
They're kind of like forcing stuff together.
It's just all bad.
Yeah. And it's all regional, right?
Like a place like Southern California or, you know,
probably in Texas or something,
there's a lot of that just industry still going.
It's getting less and less, but you have options.
Whereas if you live somewhere that doesn't have that stuff,
it makes it really challenging, expensive,
shipping things off and, you know,
shipping an alternator back and forth kind of sucks.
So it just depends on where you're at.
Yeah. I also just had my, so I actually just had my distributor rebuilt
by a dude up in the Bay Area.
So it was kind of the same style, you know,
rather than buying a new one. Yeah.
That's just what they do, right?
I like that. I like that option.
Uh, any thoughts? Art, you want to move on?
No, no thoughts. Just say just for the businesses that are
doing this because yeah, as you said, man, dwindling, I think,
like, especially like here, you, you named one for very specific,
like thing. I imagine that Oakland one probably
services half of California. Yeah.
Totally. And I don't know if they're still around.
It was already like the guys that were doing it were in their,
you know, late sixties. This was 15 years ago.
Yeah. I love me like also a dedicated radiator shop.
Like that's also a rare bird these days, right?
Like big time. Yeah. Recoring a radiator rather than buying
some crappy piece of junk.
Dude, they radiators are the same thing, right?
The junkie want, they just always go bad. Yeah.
They're just cheap, thin metal, bad fittings, the tanks are plastic.
Yeah. Yeah. All of it.
Uh, Fidel lighted says Fidel lighted says, uh, thoughts on having
events such as the Radwood festival of speed and using Laguna
Sika corkscrew as a hill climb. Sounds like the perfect
mishmash, mishmash of the Rolex motorsport reunion meets Goodwood
festival of speed, but Radwood era cars only man.
This guy is very smart. I like this question.
I would love this. The amazing. Um, yeah, I don't know.
Not much else. It's the original dream, right? Yeah.
It's very high up there. Like that is, uh, would be amazing.
And we have talked about this maybe on the podcast, but doing
like a Radwood nationals where you feature, you know, it's more
of like a bigger festival that people come to somewhere in
the middle of the U S like they do for autocross and then having
like, uh, a bigger motorsport component would be so rad.
Laguna Sika would be awesome. Yeah.
I mean, we're making baby steps, but definitely that is, you
know, quite frankly, uh, Fidel lighted Fidel lighted is we have
to make a very strong business case because that's the way
it works. Uh, and so we have to prove the model through other
means first by sampling kind of motorsport elements into our
event and then like dedicating to a full scale thing like this
is definitely the dream, but we're, yeah, we're right there
with you. Yes, exactly. And I think it would be really fun.
A lot of people would be into it. It would be awesome. Great.
Um, automotive omnivore, by the way, I'm stoked that John can
come on the rally. This will be. Oh yeah. He says questionable
mods. We all did them at one point before we knew better.
Soon it will be our kids turn. Do you put your foot down and
attempt to stop it? Advise against it, but don't stand in
the way or help them install it and let them learn the pros
and cons of the aftermarket through their own experience.
Great question. Dude, Lane, you're going to have her like,
like, uh, overclock the, the, uh, motor dude, get more juice out
of the Polestar. Straight up, dude. I know. Unfortunately,
I mean, unfortunately or fortunately, I don't think my kids
are either of them will go down that route, but mine definitely
will. If they would, I would probably, I would be on the, I
would be on the side of like telling them they're stupid and
not to do it. Probably like, let's say, let's say the pole
star beer can Adam. Yeah. Your daughter takes the Polestar
or whatever said basic car and she wants to put on chrome
rams them rams. Yeah, they're going to fit, but they're going
to look ridiculous. However, she's an artistic kid, maybe
wants to express herself. Where do you say not under my roof?
Okay, she's going to college now. Well, then she can do what
she wants. Oh, but she's using money for no, she's using
her tuition money. Hell no, and she's got some weird boyfriend
that's telling her what to do. No, dude, like oh fuck hell
though, dude. I'm way too like it would hurt me inside for that
to happen, dude. It would be too painful. What if they're
spinners though, Lane? I mean, now you're getting, now you're
going, getting so much. Foot's going down. You're saying hell
now. Yeah. Yeah. How about you dude? Well, I think it would
come down to mods that are annoying like exhaust, for example,
like if, if Andrew to the rest of the world, yeah, and just in
general, like as a person to be in the car or outside of the
car, really loud exhaust, anything like that, I would be very
strongly against. However, I do like John's comment of like,
kind of let them learn, you know, like, all right, you really
want that loud exhaust, like good luck, and maybe it would be
an instant like, oh crap, I blew it, or they, he might not
mind. And then I got to deal with a drone. Interesting. Yeah.
Fart can. Well, I think it's a, it's a, it's a, what do you
call it? It's not this black and white, right? Like I feel
some things that could be a little too extreme, right? Where
they're unsafe and or extremely annoying that you're going
to be having to have conversations with your neighbors,
which I want to avoid. Exactly. Maybe a super loud exhaust
versus like something aesthetic cosmetic, like, you know, like
tint or shit like that, right? Like I think for the most part,
though, overall, like my parenting style is very much the
ladder. Like I always work through them with stuff and like
try to make them understand how things work or why you shouldn't
do stuff. And as opposed to be like, no, don't do that, right?
No, you're using kid. You're using kid gloves. That makes
sense. Yeah, kid gloves. But I also think that you're approaching
it softly. I think that I say no. You're saying, well, how
about if you did this? Right? Right? I think our kids are
probably at least Andrew would be more interested in what we
had to say about it, what we think is cool to then start
there. And you know, it's just all factors of like who's
influencing them and the boyfriends, right? The girlfriends
of the world. And then, you know, slippery slope.
Early relationships, man, just making their kids put like racing
slicks on their car and when it's damp out, it's not a good idea.
Totally some fricking stick on port holes, you know, and oh,
okay. What about no fear? How about no fear? Your kid rolls up.
That's still around. No fear. I gotta put my foot down.
Yeah. A big Johnson sticker on the back. Matt Tures says,
thanks for hosting a great morning. Motors was my first time
back in Santa Cruz since I was probably a teenager. So hung
around afterwards with the wife and played tourist hitting a
verve in the Patagonia outlet. My question this week is
hypothetical. You can be gifted the Japanese car of your
dreams, but you have to put a giant Itasha style decal of some
fictional character on it. Do you do it? And which character
are you picking? You can't ever take the decals off or sell
the car for money. Holy crap. Do you guys? So first of all,
let's start with your dream. Is it just like the like manga
like little girl or whatever? It's those anime stickers that
cover the entire car basically. It's like a like a fucking
drifter rap situation. Massifaria style or whatever. Yeah.
Yeah. Why didn't Matt Tures say hi to us? I don't even know
who Matt Tures is. He was busy being a tourist dude. So first
of all, start with the Japanese car of your dreams. I'm just
thinking was that the last time he was there, it might have
been the murder capital of the world, dude. So he's I know dude.
I don't think it's that Japanese car of your dreams are this
is it. You know, all coming down. There is there is an angle
here. What if you are become like a midnight run guy and you
only drive it at night when there's no one around and you
get to enjoy the car, but it looks like shit. So no one sees
it. Such a great situation except for the couple buddies that
you go out on a drive with and they they they're in the know
they know what's up. You know, you made this sacrifice because
Matt Tures made this proposal and then he took you up on it
and one day he rolled up with like a, you know, like an R
33 400 R, but it's like wrapped in like Gundam or something.
You know, so yeah, this is tricky. I don't see myself enjoying
this vehicle very much. I mean, we all love driving cars, but
we clearly enjoy looking at them. That's a big part of it.
I'm thinking of like an NSX type R with left hand drive and
then a huge crappy sticker all over it would really suck. Yeah,
it's pretty terrible. Yeah, bum me out. Like, I don't know.
Just like everyone looking at me. First of all, that's a bummer
and then when I get out of the car and look at the car, I want
to take pictures of it bummer. It doesn't match any of my
interests at all. So I know I'm a pass on it. I'm a passing.
So that's like the Aztec princess riding a sword, right?
That's what we're looking at right now. Kind of like that, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. All that's right. Just basically shows
his is what he's doing. See, so that's what he has on his
card. No, it's like Gandalf holding a staff while smoking a pipe
and like in the back is, you know, some warrior princess. Yeah,
but in Japanese style. Yeah, I just remember like it was
Fast and Furious where I first saw that, you know, I was like,
is that really a thing? Like, because we never saw that
around here. Yeah, even though that culture was like no one
was doing that stuff, but I've seen it, you know, yeah, I mean,
I don't even have a dream Japanese car, but when art said
400 R, I was like, I get down with a 400 R for sure dude.
There you go with an ass with an Aztec princess on a sword.
He said, I'll fucking take an Aztec princess. Hell yeah.
I'm going Japanese anyway. I think it's pretty fascinating.
Actually, yeah, like what if I went opposite under the
spectrum, like the raddest high a surf and then some crazy
that almost works. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that almost that works
better almost. You know those trucks, the Dekatora trucks,
which are actually pretty sick. Like that kind of goes with
that aesthetic. So you can rock one of those. It's a sticker
part of it that just kills me. I don't mind all the Chachis
and stuff as much, but the like, yeah, I'm just picturing
this thing, this huge graphic. It's usually reflective to
you, which is even totally totally. So you just see him like
just parts of it where it'll be like in one window, like saying
hi or you know the back of the car or something, but this
out of the door belt or the where it was. Was it called?
This is this is over the whole car. So yep. It's not. I mean,
yeah, I'm in dude. Matt chores. I'm gonna. I'm just gonna go
one midnight. I'll drive up Gibraltar, like rip around the
hills up here. No one's around and then I'll just at the gas
station. Occasionally I'll get caught and I'll just have to
have a conversation. Everywhere you park, there'll be pictures
of the car and dude, I'm going in. I'm not even hiding it, dude.
I'm just going full. Yeah, I love it. 400R 400R. Let's do it.
I don't know what the fuck I'm going to put on there. I said
Gundam, but that's not necessarily what I want. I was thinking
of like a probably, you know what? One of my favorite
animes is ninja scroll. Look this up. It's a pretty legendary
one. Not looking it up. I would rock a ninja scroll, dude,
because it's also very like inside baseball, you know, like
it's like, it's like a really, really like good anime. That's
not like, you know, cheesy and it's also like you have to be
kind of nerdy to know it. It's a little bit art house, if you
will. So, you know, well, if you have that on your bingo, if
you have that on your bingo card folks, mark it down. I would
go fist of the north star, but that, I mean, fist of the north
star is kind of, it's more, it's even, it's just too silly.
Let me ask you this. Does Akira, the movie count in this
fashion? I mean, you can do whatever anime you want, right?
A box van with the, like the motorcycle on the side and
Haneda is standing next to it. Yeah, but it's also like very
hyper sexualized. Like if you look at it, it's always like
literally means like painful to look at vehicle. Like it's
like I'm back out folks. Yeah. So that's why it's, it's not
great. There's no way to get around it.
If you're going to do it, go for like full, go full, you know,
like you want to go over the top. Totally Akira wearing a
bikini dude on the bike. No, I'm out back out. Alright, Bobby
read with the car says, do you have any reoccurring car
related dreams? If so, what do they look like? I used to have
a weird dream that was like a car going down the road and
then like driving off a cliff. It was like very kind Tony, but
this was a long time ago and you know, dreams are weird, but
you need to talk dude. After the show, we can have a conversation.
No, I think it's, it's all good. I'm good. Lane, you'd be a
great therapist. Better health with Lane Skelton. I'm like
fucking just shut up and shut the fuck up dude. I'm like other
other people has way bigger problems than you. You need to
stop being a little bitch. Exactly. Actually, I think that is
probably pretty helpful to hear. I think it probably is right
or do you have a dream of owning a Cleo V six? Is that what
that dream looks like? I do. I do have a dream of owning a
Cleo V six. Yeah, I actually I used to have one, but it was
literally just like driving on a specific road and it wasn't
anything noteworthy. It was just like having a fun drive, you
know, and that was that was kind of it. There's it's a section
of San Francisco where like near where I was in school up
there and I remember just having like this dream of like
driving down this one road and that was a recurring dream. I
don't know why, but nothing noteworthy. I've had like really
really cool car related dreams but not recurring. Unfortunately.
Gotcha.
Pedal commute. I'm laying. I'm assuming you don't have any
recurring car dreams. I definitely don't. Okay. Pedal
commute says lots of engine swaps at morning motors this week.
What motor would you swap into your car smog exempt? Lane, the
9 11 warren the van again art question mark. I have a feeling
Lane and mine are going to be pretty similar answers. I mean
yeah, I don't I really actually I don't even really have. I
mean what would I do? I mean yours is trickier than mine. Mine
super take yours. You just do like a Porsche or Subaru. I
would do the smoothest quietest flat six that Porsche makes.
It's going to be plenty of power. It's going to rev quickly.
It's going to be, you know, awesome. I don't need it smog exempt.
I'm not trying to build a hot rod. So I want he did say smog
exempt. So that's true, but maybe maybe he was just saying that
it could be smog exempt. And in fact, it probably wouldn't. It
wouldn't work for smog anyways because I'm read. I have to
completely redo intakes and exhaust to make it fit properly
and wait. So just to be clear, he said that this is any engine
swap and smog wouldn't be a thing, right? Yeah. If you want
it. Yeah. And I have to go pre smog. I would just build like this,
you know, perfect. I guess it'd be like an ed pink, you know, flat
six cause worth whatever the hell option, but I want it to
be quiet and smooth. I don't need it to be raucous. Yeah. And it's
going to be four times the power of the van already has even in
like a stock configuration. So yeah, kind of where my mind goes.
I feel like with mine, I can't go with a Porsche engine. If it's
a swap, you can't just be like, Oh, let's get an older six cylinder
with like a four liter or whatever. You know, this feels like
a easy way out. So I don't know. I thought about this another way
too with my van. It's like when you come down to power and like
smoothness, I mean, even just like a modern four cylinder engine,
not a flat four, but something, anything like a Honda, you know,
yeah, something would be great, but the configuration is weird. So
case off that thing, dude already. Why are you not case off again?
It's too tall. It's too tall. Come on, dude. No, you can put a bump.
You don't make you a fiberglass bump back there, dude. Lovely lady bump.
Yeah. Yeah, dude. Yeah, I don't. I think I don't know, dude. I
feel like you got to go. I got definitely don't want a Chevy
engine. Dude, no, sure. That was like the thing. Remember back in the day, 914s
with the short block. Yeah, exactly where they put the, they put the
what's it called? I said short block instead of small block. I got one
for you. Yeah. I don't know if it would fit. It'd be tight as ice, but
flat 12, Testerosa. Okay. Now we're talking, dude. That's pretty good.
Maybe like remove the firewall, move it forward a little bit, you know, and
that might be what's up, dude. That's kind of sick actually. Yeah. Yeah.
I like that. Why don't you just go LMW two style, dude? No, but I'm thinking
you can't go poor. I can't go porches when I'm kind of thinking, you know, so
flat 12 like that. 002 is a V 12 Lane. I have an answer for you and it's
right under your nose. You're just looking too far ahead. You go
tag V six formula one turbo.
That hard to argue. Good fucking answer, man. That's the one. I mean, I always
kind of forget that was a, you know, that different configure. Yeah. Yeah.
That's perfect. Yeah. For the E 30.
Shit. Yeah. Cause I mean, I cut, I put the motor that I want in there because
it's, it's exactly what I seek out of that chassis, but like, I know that S
54s are popular now and, but that's like, you end up with a drift car. So I
still want like something that's high revving. That's like very usable in that
car. So what could that be? Could it be like maybe go with
go for a GE style like an 86 and do like a super high revving 20 valve
motor? Like, uh, that would probably be cool. Um, or what if you went like with
a really early, trying to think the smallest engine with the most amount of
cylinders, like for weight wise, but a tiny displacement. Oh, like I would do
like V four or something or yeah. Yeah. Like something really small and light,
but oh, but you're saying more displacement like to, you have that sound and, um, yeah.
Yeah. I wouldn't want to go with an old engine though. That's the thing is like
going with an old, you know, Ferrari V 12 or something doesn't. Yeah. That's the
move. You know what could be interesting is that little two liter V six that came
in the, um, what is that? What is that Mazda is that MX three?
Yeah. Like a super hopped up version of that could be really cool. A really
small displacement V six like that. Um, that revs really high. Um, I don't know
people fucked with Honda gold wing motors and cars. Oh wow. I've seen a like, um,
like tiny grand pre-car, you know, almost like models that they've used for that
reason. Yeah. It's a, it's a cool idea. Flat six. Right? Yeah. I'm like trying to
see what is the displacement? They're like a thousand CCs, right? The original
one's probably a little more. All right. Yeah. Probably more like 13, 12 or 13
hundred. Yeah. Yeah. I can, maybe one of those like a little beef. And I think
the last ones are almost two leaders. Aren't they like big, big boys? Yeah.
That's a great answer though. Cause you get this really a smooth, high-reving
power plant. It's not big. It's fits in a motorcycle for Christ's sake. And, um,
yeah, that'd be, talk about a crowd. I don't know if it's a crowd pleaser, but
it's a crowd. It's a crowd something. Something it's a, you would win cars
and coffees. What are you saying? You would win cars, but yeah, it definitely needs
to be hopped up though. Cause I mean, I'm sure they're pretty anemic in the 80s,
you know, or night, or I guess how, as you say, I guess they still make them,
right? So I could go with one of the later ones. Um, yeah, but definitely would
want to like make compression and a bunch of shit with that.
Really fascinating to look at a new gold wing in person. I think Lane and I saw
one at the quail not too long ago, maybe like three years ago, and they had a
display with their new bikes and, um, man, they are just unbelievable. The amount
of stuff packed on those things air conditioning, cruise control, uh, you know,
obviously stereo traction control and reverse heated butt, heated grips. Yeah.
Yeah. I usually say heated seat. I don't really say he did, but so much depends
who you're talking to. I just realized something that is embarrassing that I
didn't even consider is like, I'm sure there's like a really awesome BMW like
sport bike motor that would be badass in this thing. And I didn't even consider
that and you keep it BMW. So that's probably that's the answer. I don't know
anything about like, there's a dude that goes to like the local little gatherings
in town and his bike is like, like he was saying that it's, it's like a homologated
bike. So it's basically what they race in WSBK or whatever. I don't know if it's a
MotoGP equivalent, um, but it's like all carbon fiber everywhere and it has this
like beefy motor. And I think it's a 1300. Um, but yeah, I think there's other
opportunities there to keep things, you know, on brand BMW ish. Yeah.
I like it. Uh, John rise says with most of the country digging out from a big
snowstorm, myself included, what car or vehicle would you want to have on some
snowy roads, row ads? Well, uh, the Monte Carlo rally is happening as we speak
or maybe I think it already wrapped up, but, um, those are some fun snow cars.
It was very snowy this year at Monte Carlo and, um, these guys are getting pretty
wild with it. I never think of that stuff like being something I would actually
want to go. What kind of cars they roll in the, what are they driving these days?
I need to watch that. I was citrons and Volkswagen's and Ford's hatches. Yeah.
Toyota. Yeah. Like all that stuff. Don't, don't quote me on those. I haven't
watched this year's and they changed actually, there's like, I think it's new
for next year. They're going to start having a, um, it's a stock car. So it's
basically like a chassis that then you can put, make it look like a Toyota or
make it look like a Ford, but they're going to start from this, uh, you know,
homologated thing that has all the same jack points and suspension mounts and
roll cage and everything. And then from there, you would like add a motor and
all that stuff. So it's supposed to make the field way more even and affordable.
So I don't know. I just saw an article about it recently and it looked cool.
So they're all going to be the same car though. Well, the chassis kind of lame.
I know. I think it's all about the engineering and stuff and like building
up like, like, and having different, I don't know. Like you think about like
back in the day when it was like Audi versus Lancia and it was just like mid
engine versus front engine versus, you know, like, I agree. Cool.
I think they were having trouble fielding competitive teams and it's just started
to get to a point where it's expensive, huh? Yeah, it's like definitely best.
Well, they should just price cap it then and you like still make your own car,
but just like Formula one's done price cap and everybody. Yeah.
I think naturally for the most part, people will, you know, veer towards some similar
attributes or setups, right? Cause they know what's most effective and then, but then you still
have that freedom, right? To be creative around it.
Or something like that. But it's going to feature a common two-wheeler space
frame chassis at 1.6 liter turbo engine, roughly two and two 90 to 300 horsepower,
four-wheel drive, five-speed gearboxes and simplified aerodynamics,
cost cap, 345,000 euro. So that's how they're going to go forward.
Standardized space frame and motor it sounds like.
I don't know. Remains to be seen. I mean, that'd be cool to then you're like,
takes manufacturers out of it though. Like, well, I think they'll still
have the ability to tune the cars and then obviously like
some other arrow and now you're talking about who is the best driver, right?
Like now you're on a way more even playing field. It's kind of like
what NASCAR does, right? I mean, those cars are exactly what NASCAR does.
They're so similar, but they have some ability to tweak things and it's
very competitive. So I don't know. That's for next year.
Cool, dude.
What's your snow car?
Snowy. This is assuming just like a daily
or are we talking fun car or both? What do you guys think? I guess whatever comes to mind.
Whatever you're feeling here. Dude, well, I feel really close in my heart
that my wife's car is a fantastic snow car. I've driven
that Cayenne a ton of times in the snow and it is like
cake. It drives really, really well in the snow.
The all-wheel drive system is killer. It has plenty
of traction. It handles well. It has good brakes.
It's literally like cheating driving
that thing in the snow. So if I needed an actual daily
to deal with, that would probably be my choice just because
I think it checks a lot of boxes. I imagine that a Panamero
would probably do a really good job too, but
that's my daily choice.
And fun toy,
I mean, I'm thinking maybe like
an RS3.
That would be pretty sweet. Yeah, can't go too wrong there.
I was thinking vintage utility, which there was just a G-Wagon that sold on
Bringen trailer. It was a backdated G320
and it just kind of checked all the boxes. It was cloth interior
here. They did a really good job with all the
back dating stuff, but it's all like car play and some other things like that.
So that's where my mind goes is more just survive,
get to places easily and
also have a little bit of style with it too.
Maybe a little bit like in there.
Totally some gnomes.
I'll go 9.5.9 dude.
Oh dude, 9.5.9.
I wonder how those do in extreme cold.
You do not want to car spec.
It's all for hot weather. It's all dealing with get as much air into that thing as possible.
You want like Siberian.
That's like when you have a race in the cold, you cover all the radiator
openings and you make it so no ice can build up.
I guess 9.5.9 is still, it is a water cooled and air cooled.
Well, it's air cooled, water cooled heads, but it's an air cooled car.
You're saying rally, just rally spec 9.5.9.
But I'm saying like rally spec with like suspension, the car, the car suspension.
Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Got it. It's a good, it's a good choice.
Dang. I didn't think of it. I thought this was like a realistic thing.
Come on, dude. Lane won the lottery. So yeah, dude, he's, he's stepping up.
Dude, because if that was the case, then I'm going straight to like sport quattro, you know, or something.
Yeah, or a quad. Yes, exactly. I mean, there's
yeah, also a Subaru 22B, like that would be awesome.
That would be sick. Maybe like a Bugatti Turbillon.
Oh, shit. Look at you. Urbina.
As the production gave says, can you please reflect on the concept
of mechanical sympathy? Warren's more mechanically
sympathies.
I think it's a full philosophy. Go into any
living creature or mechanical creature and you have
some connection to it. You'll have that sympathy built in. Some people have more than
others. But is it like, is it, what do you feel you're doing
if you drive the car hard? That is like you're against.
I don't know. I just think that
if you, I think it's like, it's almost
like compassionate driving.
I mean, because the car has a soul, I mean, just trying to understand like
yes, like some like the Buddha says
even killing an aunt is taking a life. Dude, well
the only reason that I, the way that I make sense of mechanical
sympathy is just like if, if one, if your car is not built
up to the task to do what you want to do with it or two, you know, it's going to be
expensive because you're going to wear the wear and tear is going to come back and hit you financially.
So like there's that. So I drive my cars
really hard, but I also build them for that purpose. So like they
like, you know, like that's hard on Sunday, win on
Monday or whatever. Exactly. You know, you got to win the rally. You got to win the cars and coffee. You got to win
all the stuff. So, so I have beefed up suspension brakes, you know, all the stuff
in high revving. So I have a motor that specifically for that, that has a very high
tolerance for that and is known to be reliably a high
reverber, I guess. So those things I feel like make me
I don't really feel like I should do it and enjoy the car less, but
I don't know. I don't, I don't think because the car is in a living
thing, man, like the ant or the butterfly
Lane, can you explain mechanical sympathy?
Yeah, I mean, I know mechanical sympathy. It's like
not like not dumping your clutch. It's not
like shifting as fast as you can and dropping the clutch every, every gear.
But I mean, I think it's different for every vehicle, right? It's like
not forcing things that don't want to be forced. So if your car is meant
to rev to 9,000 all day long, then I think that's your
you don't, you shouldn't be probably much kind of please sympathetic in that way, but
but there's also straight abuse. If your car
like, if your car sounds like shit and you're like, Oh, it really runs about above five grand
and you're taking it to 65 all the time. It's like, that's not being
sympathetic. Right. There's also abuse, right? Like straight up abuse, like, like
just like slam, like just sliding it around everywhere and bouncing on the rev limiter all day
and then just as you said, like hard shifts. Yeah, like just like, or maybe flat
shifting it just because you want to do like all that kind of stuff is abusive. Like
I stomping on the gas pedal. That means my car will break
and I don't want my car to break. Right. So like that's where I would
I would also look at it this way where as a race car driver,
some drivers have very smooth inputs. They're, they're
like on the limit, but their inputs are calculated and smooth and then
many of drivers that are just as fast that are sawing at the wheel and you know,
much more physical. That's the Santa versus Prost thing. So like
that's what like Joe Ramirez, if you read like, you know, Joe Ramirez was the
not the manager, whatever he was at the McLaren team
when they were together. And he talks
about like Santa's cars at the end of the race being completely clapped out.
Like they were just like trash, like unusable and Santa and Prost
car had like another full race on it. Like, you know, and because
of their driving style, right? So like Santa extracted every little ounce out of it
a certain way with the way he drove and like Prost drove extremely smooth
and was very, very, very good at driving that way. But also like some will argue
that, but if he was a little more aggressive, maybe he would have like, you know,
been whatever. So there is that. But yeah, yeah.
I mean, there's a famous, you know, driving test where this guy named
cold trickle. He went out, did a couple of laps his way and
the tires were done. Then he went out and did it their way.
Tires still had tons of tread left and he was faster. That's mechanical sympathy.
That old trickle Andrew underscore T for
r says any device any advice for people trying to mingle
or make new friends during events like morning motors. Oh, that's
that's an interesting one.
I was going to say like
have a very interesting t-shirt on
something that some obscure car t-shirts that only the
people you want to connect with would know. It's a good call. It's like a
like maybe like a ninja scroll shirt or something like that.
No, just have it say art house fist of the north star
film noir.
That'll get you far.
Just a tiny desk and see what happens.
I mean, that's a good call. I mean, that's a really
I think yet stand by your car with your head up.
Oh, no, negative. Well, that's Stan.
You'll find all the wrong people.
I always I'm just reflecting on morning motors. I feel like that was the best
that's like the best car hang in maybe in
northern 21st century. Yeah, it was just perfect.
It was perfect. I got to tell you. It's a great, great group.
Andrew, it's a good question, man. And I think, you know, introduce yourself
to some of the people in the community like the folks at Beeline or Dragon Well Awesome.
I didn't get to meet you, but then we can tell you more about stuff going on
and from there you might get deeper and grain into this community because
as much as we like driving and stuff, it really is all about the people.
So come hang. Yeah. One easy way to do it is
to ask any car person about their car. Like they're
they're going to be stoked to talk to you about their car. So and if you see someone
hanging out like with their hood up just standing there, you know, just approach them.
Not necessarily that, but you know, if you see someone hanging out by their car and you know it's theirs,
you know, that's the that's a really easy way to engage with people. And
especially if you, I mean, if you're like a Toyota guy, it looks like like
walk up to another Toyota homie who's got a sweet, you know,
set of wheels on his truck or
or come to a rally sometime and meet a bunch of people
and basically he drives a Toyota four runner, you know
other cars to buy and come on events with but
yeah, just keep at it. Don't be a stranger. That's all I can say
is at that time boys. Yes, it is
do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do.
It's trivia time. I'm going to say a word here
and I want you to tell me what it is.
Are you ready? Lane, you look ready ready as I've ever been
art. Okay. It's also wearing a roof hat for those
interested four night. Oh, that's that
it's the old paint from the Ford paint job
and they make it into like and then they make like watch. You guys are good
jewelry too. Otherwise known as Detroit
Agate or Motor City Agate. All right. This is
one of those things where I go. I've seen this around and didn't think much of it
and then I go on the Wikipedia page and then I'm now it says that
it's a lapidaeist term for polish pieces and I go
what the fuck is lapidaeist? So then I click that and it says lapidae
is the practice of shaping stone, minerals or gemstones and decorative items
such as cabochons and I go, I don't know what the fuck that is. Let's go to
cabochons. A cabochon is French for head
caboché. I don't know probably butchering this
gemstone that's been shaped and polished as opposed to faceted
yeah. A cabochon is like on a Cartier watch. It's that little
like jewel that little jet, the little stone on the
on the crown. Okay. It's not faceted. It's like
just polish and smooth. Sometimes faceted I think but yeah.
So anyways, you guys are good. You win the trivia. Fordite for those
that aren't familiar is a lapidaeist term
for polish pieces of finely layered paint masses from
automotive factories. So it's like in the paint booth
at Ford. It's straight up Ford dude is why it's called Fordite.
Yes. And there's other, I think there are other people that are other companies that
can produce such a thing but this is interesting. If you look at Ford
ITE at the end, people are selling it on eBay in different
sizes and shapes and colors and it's kind of cool.
I could see this being used in all sorts of stuff.
Definitely a jewelry because it's small chunks but it's also not cheap which is
weird. You'd think this is like, they'd have so much of it, right?
But yeah. And do you think it's still available on
modern factories because
they're so clean now. I don't think they have this like paint that's
like just dripping constantly under spots. I don't think it's like that
dude. They're not walking around on six inches of fucking old paint.
And even though they do paint millions of cars a year
hundreds a day, there's going to be some
build up of paint that isn't getting onto the car.
But it's so much more efficient now. That's key, right? Whereas before it was dripping all over the
place. So I don't know if it's still a thing that you can get
from a current factory. Maybe
you can farm it dude. What if you have like a plate that is under the car?
Oh, you definitely. But the thing is
so I don't know though, because
when you paint a car, it's not really paints, not really dripping.
So I don't even understand like the only way you could build up something like this is like
it feels like if you have something
on like a rack, you know, or something you put a part on a rack
and it's on the rack because you're literally painting it. It's not going to be
on the ground dude. That's not how it's sucking down anyway.
And it's just going to be dust dude. It's not.
So I think it has, it has to be like, and then
when you see them paint cars, now they're like suspended and
like there's not like a big, I don't know. I feel like
there isn't a lot of like room for this stuff to happen. Well, that's what I mean.
You have to really like, you know, be purposeful. You have to try to make it.
Like you have something where you as the arm passes,
you know, the robot arm passes the body, like it sprays onto this thing
and then you basically like collect it after a year or something
and then you have that all of the years. Yeah. So you could definitely make it
but the cool thing about the original like Fordite stuff, which is like
these Arkana watches did the Fordite dial
and it was like they'd have like a 1993 Ford
Explorer, you know, TL and then there would be this other color.
Oh, damn. That's super fancy. Ninety three. So this says
that electrostatic spring, which is now the new, you know,
the norm bonds the paint to the metal way
more efficiently. So it's not dripping, but the best of the
would never drip, dude. That's like drips the wrong word just over
spray. There was there's no over spray anymore because it's like sucking it to the metal now
but in the best Fordite to find
is sixties and seventies because they actually had cool colors. So now
nowadays it'd just be white, black, white, you know,
gray and silver. Kind of wouldn't look that cool. They used to have it
all the way from the twenties and 40 through the forties. The colors were pretty dark and
muted and then the best is the sixties and seventies.
I'm already and dude, let's let's reach out to a Chinese like contract manufacturer.
We're going to make fake Fordite dude and like we'll have
it. We'll choose the colors from the sixties and seventies and we're going to throw it into the
market. We're going to mess this the whole thing up, sell it as authentic.
We can make billions, dude. I love it. It's lapida
we're going to be shot a charcuterie or whatever the other one was.
That's a that's trivia for you. Fordite. Now if Porsche
offered this, it'd be worth so much money. So much money.
Can you imagine Porscheite dude? Oh my god.
It's paint the sample light. Oh, that would be pretty dope.
Do you paint the sample light dude?
Yeah, I mean, I think they are people are just making it nowadays and they're
using like they're making it to be this. So they're probably adding
even more resins and the pain, you know, like I'm like making more of a resin than
a normal paint because you want it to be more stable, right?
Here's one for you. The harder the stuff
I guess from whatever era has led in it. So it's not even. Oh, right.
Yeah, for jewelry reasons, not the best
options. So anyhow, that's it. And that's all
thanks for joining us. See you next time later.
Bye.
About this episode
A lively discussion unfolds as the hosts reflect on a recent morning motors event, sharing their experiences and the eclectic mix of cars present. They dive into various automotive topics, including engine swaps, car modifications, and the unique charm of classic vehicles. The conversation also touches on the community aspect of car events, with tips for mingling and making connections. Listeners can expect a blend of humor, personal anecdotes, and insights into the automotive culture, making for an engaging episode filled with camaraderie and car talk.
all wheel drive
Euro H4 lenses
mechanical sympathy
plexiglass panel
Radwood era cars
rebuilder
remand
rev limiter
turbo
Zagato
Audi Quattro
Audi RS 3
BMW 3 Series
BMW M3
Chevrolet Malibu
Chevrolet Monte Carlo
Ford Explorer
Honda Civic
Hyundai Santa Cruz
Jaguar Mark I
Lotus Esprit
Mitsubishi Lancer
Nissan 300 ZX
Porsche 911
Porsche 914
Porsche 959
Porsche Carrera GT
Porsche Cayenne
Porsche Panamera
Saab 900
Saab 9-3
Toyota Land Cruiser
Volvo 240
Volvo 242
Volvo 850
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