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Hello everybody and welcome back to the Fast and the Curious and our final race preview of the season.
03:00
Oh, it's a big one as well, isn't it? Three potential title winners and it all comes down to one race in Abu Dhabi.
03:06
Let's get into it. I'm Betty Glover. Hello Christian Hugill in Abu Dhabi who has been moaning that it is too hot.
03:13
Well, I'm sat here in Manchester seven degrees and it's absolutely f***ing it down. Christian, no sympathy.
03:20
No, moaning is a strong word. What I did say was going from the UK where it was so cold,
03:27
then having a quite lengthy plane delay, which I basically had four hours sleep and not complain.
03:32
I'm aware I've got a wonderful job. No complaint at all.
03:35
But going on no sleep plus really cold weather to really hot.
03:40
I think it's really confused my body. So I sort of woke up with no sleep arrived when it's dark,
03:45
like walking like out the hotel this morning and I've been like, oh my God, where am I?
03:51
What am I doing? It's hot. It's summer. Yeah, I'm just in a very confused jet lag state.
03:56
So forgive me if words are slightly hard to come by.
03:59
Oh my God, I feel so sorry for you Christian. Going from winter to summer, it must be so tough.
04:06
Yeah, right. We need to get straight into it because what a weekend we've got in store.
04:10
This is how it stands everybody. If you don't know it already, I'm sure everyone's memorized this anyway.
04:15
Lando Norris leads Max Verstappen by 12 points.
04:18
Oscar Piazza is a further four points behind. So it means this.
04:22
If Lando finishes on the podium in Abu Dhabi, he will be world champion for the first time.
04:29
It wouldn't matter where the other two come. All he needs is a top three finish.
04:33
It's a little bit more complicated for Max and Oscar. If Max wins, Lando needs to finish fourth or worse.
04:39
Oscar said himself he needs a lot of things to go his way to be in with a shot.
04:44
He can only win the title if he takes the checkered flag first or second with the other two not making the podium.
04:51
Christian, do you understand?
04:53
I do. Thank you for clarifying, Betty. I do understand.
04:57
Surely, surely Lando is the clear favorite here, Christian.
05:02
Yeah, listen, the McLaren car has been overall the quicker package across the season.
05:09
So he's got the car to do the job, you would think.
05:13
It's a car that worked well around this circuit last year and he works well around this circuit.
05:20
He's not always had a car that can win here, but he has stacked up really well against teammates here.
05:27
And his race win last year here was one of his best.
05:31
It was a really good win where he looked fantastic.
05:35
As you say, Betty, he just needs to finish on the podium and he has got the tools and the capabilities to do that.
05:43
Because, listen, Oscar was so brilliant in Qatar. He was absolutely fantastic.
05:50
Max is Max, right? You can never rule that.
05:53
Max must happen even if he doesn't have the quickest car.
05:56
But as you say, Betty, the thing is, well, he can be beaten by them.
05:59
So for that reason alone, he has to start as the favorite.
06:03
And that's not just because he's got the most points.
06:06
It's a good position for Lando to be in.
06:08
But of course, to quote the great Murray Walker, the legendary Formula One commentator,
06:13
anything can happen in Formula One and it usually does.
06:18
You say Lando's in the best position and obviously he is.
06:22
However, with that comes, I guess, pressure and expectation.
06:27
With great power comes great responsibility.
06:31
But Oscar's going to be coming into this thinking, I've got nothing to lose. I'm going to go for it.
06:36
Max is probably thinking, I've got nothing to lose. I can go for it.
06:40
Whereas Lando, arguably, as the leader, has everything to lose.
06:44
So I'm intrigued to know how mentally he's going to cope with that.
06:48
I think he's going to cope really well with it because I feel like his mentality has changed halfway through this season.
06:54
Yeah, I think he's in a really cool place.
06:56
I've said on the podcast a few times recently, I've been really impressed with how he's recovered from setbacks.
07:02
He seemed really chilled, really happy.
07:05
Well, there's been chaos around him.
07:07
He's just been quite chilled.
07:09
So I am not expecting a fraught, stressed Lando Norris going into this weekend.
07:15
Again, that's so easier said than done.
07:18
You know, he will be hard to beat this weekend.
07:21
Well, will he beat himself?
07:23
That's so often the case with top-level sports people that actually it's not their opposition that beats them it's themselves.
07:29
You know, could that happen to Lando this weekend?
07:31
Personally, I agree with you, Betty. I don't think so.
07:33
I think he's heading into this weekend in a really good mental place.
07:36
He's got the car. He's got the ability.
07:38
He is the strong favourite.
07:40
What he can't control is chaos around him.
07:43
And what I think he does need to do is get off the line well.
07:47
You know, he's lost a place to Max Verstappen off the line a couple of times recently.
07:52
It's something that has been levelled at him in his F1 career before that he doesn't get off the line too well.
07:57
But he's then recovered from that.
07:59
But that's if there's been a chink in his armory in this recent surge of form that getting off the line well has been it.
08:08
I said in Vegas how impressive his pole position was.
08:11
It was a brilliant performance against Max Verstappen in tricky conditions,
08:16
beating Max to pole in the West huge, but then he didn't get off the line well.
08:19
And of course, you know, let's be honest, that wasn't what lost them the race in Qatar.
08:23
It was the McLaren rules strategy.
08:25
Well, actually I say that. No, I say that. I'm slightly wrong though, aren't I?
08:28
Of course, Lando not getting off the line well really, really didn't help again.
08:32
So didn't help at all.
08:34
No, no, that is where that's going to be the thing that is that's the chink in his armaments going into this.
08:39
But again, let's be honest, so long as it doesn't go disastrously wrong and so long as qualifying is in a good place,
08:44
he could him qualifying first and ending up third in the first corner to those two.
08:49
Again, you could be like, well, this is fine, you know, it's still fine to win the championship.
08:54
But that is what that's something he needs to look out for.
08:57
Let's talk about Max Verstappen because like you said, you cannot rule him out.
09:02
You would be an idiot to rule Max Verstappen out of this.
09:05
He's won four times in Abu Dhabi.
09:07
He's got the best history on this track compared to Oscar and Lando.
09:11
How much of an advantage do you think that is going to give him?
09:15
Yeah, what we've often seen in recent years, even in more Mercedes dominant years,
09:20
is the Red Bull car coming into its own here.
09:23
As you say, he's done well and then in the Red Bull dominant years, Max did well as well.
09:30
So I guess what I'm saying is that if you know with Max, if he's got the car,
09:34
he will convert it into a win round here.
09:37
But as I say, it's a good Lando Norris track as well.
09:40
But I'm sort of at the point where we could be on talking or whatever preview podcast we like,
09:45
we could be in Belgium, Bahrain, Abu Dhabi or Silverstone.
09:51
Max Verstappen is Max Verstappen.
09:53
And so rarely this year has he looked like anything other than being sensational.
10:00
We've said in the debrief of the last race, it's maybe like Barcelona where he lost his head a little bit.
10:05
Other than that, he's looked almost unbeatable.
10:08
So it wouldn't surprise me at all if Max Verstappen wins the race.
10:12
He will be there to pounce.
10:14
He is the warning sign from McLaren that if you faff about too much guys
10:18
and make life too complicated for yourself, he will punish you.
10:23
We've run out of things to say about Max Verstappen.
10:26
He is for me operating at the best level in Formula One.
10:30
So therefore it's not a surprise if he wins this.
10:33
I think if Max Verstappen wins this, he will become Formula One's greatest of all time.
10:40
Or he'll be up there. He'll be up there.
10:42
He'll be the Formula One guy because the fact Christian that he's still in contention,
10:46
heading into the final race speaks absolute volumes.
10:50
And anybody that was sort of questioning him as a driver after 2021,
10:54
well, Max is just in the fastest car. That's the only reason why he's winning.
10:58
Turns out, guys, it's not just about the car.
11:01
No. And Formula One fans who've been in, you know, fans of the sport
11:06
for a long time, like my good self, have always said,
11:08
oh, it's just you've got the quickest car.
11:11
And Max Verstappen is the slam-dunk argument against that.
11:14
It's like, well, no, he won last year's championship
11:16
and he didn't have the quickest car pretty much from Miami onwards.
11:19
I don't like the historical comparisons and I do get very bored
11:23
of people going, well, Fangio was better.
11:26
It's so hard to compare different drivers in different areas.
11:30
You can't. But I broadly agree with you, Betty.
11:34
To me, I'm struggling to remember a Formula One driver
11:39
who is capable of eking out so much more than their car offers the Max.
11:45
And there's been people who've said to me across this season,
11:48
oh, is that the quickest car of all season?
11:50
No, he's not. Like he factually hasn't.
11:53
You know, analysis has been done.
11:55
McLaren has broadly across the season been about two-tenths quicker on average.
11:59
Of course, that comes with flash points where, you know,
12:01
oh, this car goes well in this particular circuit.
12:04
But this is the year that the car was nowhere near.
12:07
There was turmoil behind the scenes.
12:09
And yet, by being consistent, by being Max Verstappen,
12:12
by being a rock star, Max has kept himself so stubbornly in it,
12:16
he's clung on like a child on a climbing frame,
12:20
just clinging desperately on as they try and grapple and climb higher.
12:24
That has been Max stubbornly refusing to let go of the climbing frame
12:28
that is the title battle.
12:30
Can you tell I'm tired?
12:31
It's the end of the season because my analogies are running out.
12:34
He's just always clung on.
12:36
And if he wins it, if he defies all the odds to win it,
12:41
it will be one of Formula One's greatest ever World Championship victories.
12:45
It will be unbelievable because he's got no right to win this championship.
12:50
And it's not just, although this is a significant part of it,
12:55
it's not just McLaren holding the door open.
12:57
It's Max's supreme brilliance as well.
13:00
Also, let's not forget, three months ago, he was 104 points behind.
13:05
That is ridiculous.
13:06
The gap that he has closed to get to this point is insane.
13:10
Let's talk about Oscar Piastri then.
13:12
He seemed back to his competitive self in Qatar.
13:15
You said that he had a brilliant weekend in Qatar, didn't you?
13:18
Really frustrating for him in the end, though.
13:21
How do you think he's going to approach this one?
13:24
All Oscar can do is go.
13:26
I went out in Qatar.
13:28
I certainly answered a few of my critics here
13:32
and I put in an unbelievably good performance.
13:36
That's all I can do.
13:38
So all he can do is go out there and do the same again.
13:43
The rest of it is unfortunately Oscar's control,
13:46
out of Oscar's control.
13:48
It's almost sort of one of the simpler positions to be in.
13:52
Just go out and be quick.
13:53
Let the rest happen around you.
13:55
There's nothing else he can control.
13:57
And he was so good in Qatar.
14:00
And we also, I think, so often expect perfection in Formula One
14:05
because we've spent so much time watching the likes
14:07
of Verstappen and the likes of Hamilton.
14:10
But the level of improvement from Oscar Piastri's
14:12
second season in Formula One to his third
14:15
has been sensational considering this is still a driver
14:19
only in his third season of F1
14:21
that his two title rivals have got many years on him.
14:24
Oscar has been brilliant this year.
14:26
His comeback in Qatar was brilliant.
14:28
And regardless of what happens this weekend,
14:31
his future is incredibly bright.
14:33
So all Oscar can go and do is go.
14:36
But I absolutely bloody rocked it in Qatar.
14:39
So let's go and do the same again
14:41
and see what the gods have got in my favor.
14:44
Let's not forget that Sebastian Vettel won the championship
14:48
having not led all season.
14:51
And I know Oscar has led for a chunk of the season,
14:53
but what I'm saying is Seb went into that race
14:56
as, oh, well, it's highly unlikely.
14:59
If podcasts were a thing back then,
15:01
all the preview pods would have been going,
15:03
well, yeah, it's going to be tricky for Seb.
15:05
Stranger things have happened, my friends,
15:07
than an Oscar-Piastri win.
15:09
So all he can do is go out to use the old cliche,
15:12
do his best and see what the formula one gods
15:16
are thinking for him.
15:18
That's a nice way of putting it.
15:20
I still think if... Thanks, mate.
15:22
If I was Oscar, I still, I think,
15:24
well, this is why I'm not professional sports person.
15:26
But I would be going into this weekend
15:28
still absolutely livid, I think.
15:29
I think I just wouldn't be able to get over it.
15:31
But you can't do that
15:32
because we love a football analogy, don't we, Betty?
15:35
That's where you go into a match-to-hept-up
15:37
and get yourself sent off by doing a two-footed tackle.
15:40
Oh, yeah, I'd have a red card.
15:43
I'd be sat in the dressing room.
15:44
Yeah, what you've got to do is put that behind you now,
15:48
They'll have had their DVDs, they'll have had their talks.
15:50
If you said in the last podcast, Betty,
15:52
hopefully they'll have learned from their mistakes,
15:54
hopefully they will have,
15:55
you've got to put all that behind you
15:57
and just start again.
16:00
You know, there is such merit in the old cliche
16:03
of take a long season like this one weekend at a time.
16:06
And this is perhaps the best example of that.
16:09
Let's talk about papaya rules, then,
16:11
the thing that everybody is thinking about.
16:13
Everyone trying to work out how on earth
16:15
are McLaren going to manage this?
16:17
So the question is, will papaya rules come into effect here?
16:22
Or are McLaren going to say, excuse me, Oscar,
16:25
if you're third and Lando's fourth,
16:27
you're going to have to let Lando pass
16:28
so he can win the championship?
16:30
Well, let's address that one.
16:32
I still think that's not a controversial call.
16:36
If Oscar can't win it in that situation,
16:41
then that's basic Formula One team orders.
16:45
McLaren would rather Lando win it than Max win it.
16:48
And I think Oscar would rather,
16:50
well, regardless of what he'd rather,
16:52
he's paid by McLaren.
16:53
So in that situation, yes,
16:56
that's not a complicated one.
16:59
I think the more complicated one
17:02
is saying Max is out the question.
17:05
I just, McLaren have had the admirable approach
17:10
of wanting to keep both drivers in it.
17:13
So many people have said in the paddock
17:16
across the season that I'm lucky enough
17:18
to go into regularly and you hear the talk.
17:20
Oh, it'll get tricky towards the end of the season.
17:23
Here we are right at the end of the season.
17:25
This will be so tricky for them to handle
17:27
because they've got themselves into a situation
17:29
where what's fair and what's not.
17:31
So to my mind, the only way they can do it this weekend
17:37
with now they've got to the end of the season
17:40
with both drivers still in contention,
17:42
which is sort of what they wanted.
17:44
To my mind, the only thing they can do is go,
17:47
let's see what happens, guys, away you go
17:49
and not get involved.
17:52
Just treat it like a normal Formula One race weekend
17:55
to try and win the Grand Prix for one of their cars.
17:58
To me, that's all they can do
18:00
because the alternative to that gets mind bogglingly
18:04
confusing and complicated.
18:06
Betty, do you agree with me there?
18:09
Well, Zack Brown has said before
18:11
that he'd rather lose the title than issue team orders.
18:14
But obviously the first scenario that we said
18:18
if Max is in the lead,
18:20
then he's going to be in the lead
18:22
because of his third and Lando's fourth.
18:24
We know Lando, if he's not on the podium
18:27
and Max wins, then he can't win it.
18:30
So in that situation you might as well, yeah, yeah.
18:33
But Woody though, I don't know.
18:35
I don't know if he would and I don't know if he should.
18:38
I mean, he should because it's a team sport
18:40
but I don't think it's as simple as that, is that?
18:42
Because if you've been saying all season,
18:45
just race and there's no team orders.
18:47
You can't just suddenly bring in team orders
18:50
I mean, any other Formula One team in history
18:53
would say we want one of our drivers
18:56
to win the championship.
18:57
So it would be a no-brainer.
18:58
But as you said in the last podcast, Betty,
19:00
nobody's ever quite approached it like this.
19:02
I would like to think that Oscar would want to see
19:07
a McLaren driver win it.
19:10
And I would like to think as well from Lando
19:13
that if the situation were reversed,
19:15
this won't happen mathematically, it's not possible.
19:18
But if there was a situation where Lando's going,
19:22
I think he would help Oscar.
19:24
The thing is, I've been asked so many times this season,
19:27
do the drivers get on well?
19:30
My belief is the same as is widely reported
19:34
from any journalist who is lucky enough
19:36
like me to spend time in McLaren at race weekends
19:38
to speak to both drivers regularly,
19:40
to speak to people who work with them directly,
19:42
to speak to people that know them.
19:44
They do like each other.
19:45
They respect each other.
19:46
They get on really well with each other.
19:47
They're not friends.
19:48
They're not going round each other's for dinner
19:50
because it's so hard to do that in this situation.
19:53
They might well be friends when they finish racing,
19:55
but there is a genuine like and mutual respect there.
19:58
And when I see them interacting, it's genuine.
20:01
It's not awkward like we've seen from other Formula One drivers
20:03
in the past with their teammates.
20:04
It's not like, oh, these two hate each other.
20:07
So I for that reason think there would be.
20:10
And I also think if you Oscar Piatri,
20:14
I don't know to have in that situation,
20:18
we're hyper-theta sizing a very specific situation here,
20:21
which I don't want to do too much,
20:23
but would you want to go into a new season
20:28
sort of being like I went out my way
20:31
to block a driver in this team from winning the championship.
20:34
I think you put yourself in a very difficult position there
20:36
and undermine the whole point of all of this in the first place.
20:38
So yeah, I don't want to dwell too much on this,
20:40
but if the broad answer to your question, Betty,
20:43
how I would approach it and how it seems logical to me
20:45
to approach it would be just let them race
20:50
and let them be and let it happen on track now.
20:55
You've sort of done what you can, McLaren, just let it go.
20:58
On that, I also think just very quickly
21:01
on that specific example,
21:04
I think Oscar would make that call himself anyway
21:09
before getting told to do it.
21:11
If he knows that he's not going to be able to win it,
21:14
if he's in third and all he has to do is swap with Lando,
21:17
I think he would make that call personally.
21:19
Yeah, because he's part of a team and he's, sorry, Betty,
21:22
he's part of a team and he also would see the effects
21:26
of a McLaren driver not winning the title.
21:30
He would see the effect that would have on the team around him
21:33
who work across both cars.
21:35
You know, he would have to deal with that.
21:37
So he'd put himself in an impossible position.
21:40
Yeah, I do think Oscar would help Lando if he was out of it.
21:45
If Oscar even has the tiniest chance,
21:48
I would like to think McLaren wouldn't ask him
21:51
to sacrifice his own race and I would like to think
21:53
he wouldn't do so even if they did.
21:55
And that's why, to go back to my original point,
21:58
if both drivers are in with a chance, just let it happen
22:00
and treat it how you treat a normal race
22:02
would be my surely only way of approaching it.
22:06
Fascinating, though.
22:08
I've got two questions from listeners on this subject.
22:11
Lewis says, would ignoring team orders
22:13
hurt Oscar's career at McLaren?
22:15
Yes, as we've sort of just discussed,
22:17
but also I think it would damage his reputation
22:20
in Formula One as a whole.
22:22
If he was in a point where he couldn't win it,
22:24
but he blocked his teammate from winning it,
22:26
that potentially stops you, you know,
22:29
being signed to a team in the future.
22:31
That would come into people's questions.
22:33
That would be an act of self-sabotage for Oscar
22:35
that I don't think he needs.
22:37
Totally agree, because other teams will look at that
22:39
and think, oh, he's not a team player.
22:41
Christina says, are there rules to stop RB
22:44
asking V-Carb to impede or crash into the McLarens
22:52
I don't have the sporting regulations in front of me.
22:55
I've had to rush to do this podcast,
22:57
to rush to leave the circuit, et cetera.
23:02
Teams go racing in a certain spirit, right?
23:05
And I don't think for a minute, Red Bull,
23:10
you can't instruct a car to deliberately crash
23:13
in the spirit of racing and put drivers' lives at risk.
23:17
We did see it happen once in Formula One in the past
23:20
with the Singapore Grand Prix, Crash Gates,
23:23
Google that if you want to review it,
23:25
but that is out of the question.
23:27
That would not happen.
23:29
But would the B team be used potentially
23:36
in an on-track battle to try and help?
23:38
Well, it's only natural that it would,
23:40
because if you're part of the Red Bull setup
23:43
and you see that there's a McLaren behind you,
23:45
you know you're part of the Red Bull family, right?
23:47
So you would naturally do that.
23:49
So we could see a version of that.
23:53
I don't know what the rules say specifically.
23:55
Apologies for that.
23:56
You would see a version of that inevitably,
23:58
but don't expect anything dramatic.
24:00
Like, oh, we'll just take them out,
24:02
because that's not in the spirit anybody wants to go racing.
24:04
And it would be so damaging to the Red Bull Grand Long Term
24:08
that it's just not worth thinking about.
24:10
No, we wouldn't see any crashing,
24:12
but maybe they can help strategically try
24:14
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24:17
Yeah, and to my mind, there's no specific rules against that
24:21
because we've seen it in the past, you know.
24:24
So teams can be teams, and that is part of, unfortunately,
24:28
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24:31
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24:33
Other people will have no issue with Red Bull earning two teams,
24:36
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24:38
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24:40
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24:43
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24:44
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Christian is in Abu Dhabi, wiping sweat off his brow.
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Yeah, sorry about that.
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Okay, Christian, I am worried about you in that heat.
31:36
It must be really tough.
31:38
Yeah, I'm about to go into the circuit.
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I'm loitering outside by the bay,
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and my phone is so it doesn't overheat in the shade
31:47
So it's fine, but I can wipe for free.
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The phone braking would not be for free.
31:54
So the phone is taking priority here.
31:56
You are looking a little bit red as well, I think.
31:58
Yeah, I genuinely forgot to put some cream on my face this morning as well,
32:01
which I always do on a hot race.
32:03
So yeah, I'm all over the shop, frankly.
32:05
I thought I'd sleep you looking. I'm standing.
32:07
Well, I know you are wobbling a bit.
32:09
And you should always put SPF on, Christian.
32:13
I've literally, I forgot.
32:14
I put it on every morning normally
32:15
when I'm in warm-ish countries and I forgot.
32:18
No, no, you should wear it every day anyway,
32:23
And I do when I forgot.
32:25
I've had four hours of sleep.
32:26
I mean, just let a man live.
32:29
I normally put it on every morning.
32:35
It's a little long.
32:41
I think I've broken him.
32:43
I think I've broken him.
32:48
Let's get on to Izakhaja then.
32:49
22 seats have finally been confirmed for next season.
32:52
Thanks to Red Bull for finally making up their minds.
32:55
This was a big shock, wasn't it?
32:57
Izakhaja is promoted to the main Red Bull team.
33:00
It means Lawson keeps his place at Racing Bulls.
33:02
An 18-year-old Arvid Lindblad joins him.
33:05
It also, therefore, means that Yuki Sonoda is dropped
33:08
altogether but stays with the Red Bull setup
33:11
as test and reserve driver.
33:15
Let's talk about Izakhaja first
33:18
because you said when we spoke about this earlier in the season
33:21
that you'd have been tempted to leave Yuki in at Red Bull
33:24
for next season and keep Haja where he is
33:27
for one more season.
33:29
That hasn't happened, Christian.
33:32
My logic in that was that we're going into a new rule set.
33:34
Yuki is an experienced Formula One driver
33:36
and maybe it would have helped them get used to the new rule set.
33:39
And I did think that earlier in the season.
33:41
You're absolutely right.
33:42
I've changed my mind.
33:44
Yuki has not shown anywhere near the pace needed
33:47
and therefore it makes sense to invest in the future
33:50
and give a young driver the chance to get used to a car
33:54
in the new rule set from the off.
33:57
So I've changed my mind.
33:59
I think Red Bull have done exactly the right thing
34:01
and I think I'd have come to that decision
34:03
towards the end of the season.
34:05
He said, middle of the season, when we spoke about it,
34:07
he was sort of leaning towards.
34:09
And part of my reason for changing my mind
34:11
is that he's continued to be more and more impressive.
34:13
I think he can cope with it.
34:15
I think he is ready.
34:16
I think the new rule changes will put him
34:18
at less of a disadvantage than other new people
34:21
in at Red Bull because we've seen with signs
34:23
at Williams with Hamilton at Ferrari
34:25
how difficult it is in the current rule changes
34:27
to move into a team when your teammate
34:29
has had a car for a long time.
34:31
How difficult it is to get used to that.
34:33
That's exaggerated at Red Bull
34:35
because Max has got such a unique driving style.
34:38
So getting someone young and talented in early doors
34:40
makes a lot of sense.
34:41
I just hope Red Bull stick with him for a bit
34:44
and give him the time if it doesn't start well.
34:46
I would be saying to him, don't worry.
34:49
You've got time here.
34:50
We know it's a new rule set.
34:54
If they don't, then they'll just start
34:56
going on the same cycle they've had before
34:58
and nothing will change.
35:00
I think if they are making Isaac feel comfortable
35:04
and happy and secure,
35:07
it will work out well for them
35:09
and there's the potential there to have the strongest line-up
35:11
since Verstappen and Ricardo at Red Bull.
35:14
I just hope they give him time if it doesn't go well
35:17
because this is a guy that can win races in my view.
35:20
He's the most impressive Red Bull driver
35:23
to come into the Red Bull for probably
35:25
since Verstappen for my money.
35:27
So I really hope they look after him.
35:31
Definitely is one of the best rookies
35:33
in their first season.
35:34
He's been brilliant.
35:36
You just watch him and you think, oh, yeah,
35:38
you've got something a bit special there.
35:40
I just worry about that second Red Bull seat
35:42
because we know it's a little bit cursed.
35:44
Don't we, alongside Max Verstappen?
35:46
But the two of them together,
35:47
that is going to be fascinating, Christian.
35:51
And I think he also, Isaac needs to go in
35:54
and this is tricky for some teammates
35:56
when they're going up against a real great
35:58
to be like, look, you're not going to be on his pace.
36:00
And I think the sooner people like
36:02
Max with Hamilton and Perez with Verstappen have accepted that
36:05
the results came better.
36:07
You're not going to be on his pace.
36:08
All right, it might be long term.
36:09
You won't be in the future.
36:11
So I think play the long game
36:16
from both driver and team perspective.
36:18
Do you feel sorry for Yuki Sonoda?
36:20
Do you think this is quite harsh?
36:24
Yuki's a really nice guy
36:26
who I've enjoyed interviewing,
36:28
and has got a good reputation in the paddock.
36:30
I don't think he comprehensively
36:32
beats his teammates enough
36:34
at Alcatari RB as it's been.
36:38
I think that was a main part of the reason why
36:42
Red Bull didn't think he was up to that seat
36:46
and only really bought him in
36:47
when they'd explored all other options
36:49
and made this, in my view,
36:50
too premature move to drop Lawson.
36:53
I think he's shown flashes of speed over his career,
36:55
but it's not been consistent enough.
36:58
Did he spectacularly outpace
37:00
the likes of Ricardo Lawson?
37:02
I mean, he was roundly beaten by Gasly.
37:04
No, and has he performed well enough
37:06
in the seat this year?
37:08
No, even with what we know
37:10
in the trickiness of the seats.
37:11
I've seen a lot of people going,
37:13
oh my gosh, poor Yuki.
37:14
I think they're basing that off
37:16
a likable, enjoyable personality
37:18
and character rather than
37:20
his sheer driving ability.
37:22
I think certain Formula One drivers
37:25
come and go and Yuki Sonoda has reached
37:28
competed in Formula One really,
37:31
and has had a solid F1 career
37:33
and will rightly go down
37:34
as someone that made it to Formula One
37:37
But these drivers eventually fall off
37:40
and for some it's too premature.
37:42
For some they stay too long.
37:43
For Yuki, it's about right for me.
37:45
This is about the right time
37:46
for Formula One to say goodbye
37:48
He's a solid backup option.
37:49
You would put him in the car absolutely
37:51
if one of the four other drivers
37:53
became ill, injured.
37:54
There was a last minute change needed.
37:56
That makes perfect sense
37:57
to keep him in the team,
37:58
to keep him in the setup.
38:00
That'll be tricky for him,
38:02
But no, I think it's the right decision
38:04
and I think Red Bull
38:06
have made the right decision
38:07
all around with not putting Yuki
38:09
And also, what other team would go,
38:11
do you know what we think
38:13
I don't see it happening.
38:15
I think it's the right time
38:16
and I get no pleasure in saying that
38:17
because Yuki's a nice guy
38:18
but I think it's on track
38:22
you would rather invest
38:23
in a younger driver at this point
38:26
and allow them to develop.
38:28
You sort of maybe feel like
38:30
Yuki's possibly hit his ceiling.
38:32
Is there much more to come from him?
38:34
So I can understand
38:35
the decision for sure.
38:36
Let's talk about Liam Lawson
38:38
because there was a lot of
38:39
question marks over what
38:40
his future was going to be.
38:42
Would he be staying on?
38:44
Does he deserve to stay on?
38:46
He is in fact staying on.
38:47
What do you think about that?
38:48
I think it's the right move
38:51
he's had so little stability
38:53
in his career coming in
38:57
being bought back in,
38:58
getting promoted to Red Bull,
38:59
being dropped from Red Bull.
39:01
He deserves a little bit of stability
39:04
and actually if he does perform well
39:06
I think what could happen ultimately
39:08
is what happened to Gasly
39:12
and that he was dropped
39:14
from the Red Bull fold
39:15
and picked up by another team.
39:17
I don't think that's going to happen
39:19
but with a stable season behind him
39:21
that still might just happen
39:24
It's a make or break year.
39:25
I think he needs to do really well
39:29
If he doesn't, I think this will be his,
39:31
20-26 will be his last season
39:33
but I think he deserves one more
39:35
shot and I think he gets a bit
39:37
of a harsh press, Liam Lawson.
39:39
He's had to scrap for his
39:40
Formula One life all the time.
39:42
So yes, he's been a bit
39:43
overly aggressive at times
39:46
I've interviewed him a lot of times
39:47
and he's a nice guy.
39:48
I think some of the sort of stuff
39:49
you hear about Liam is not fair
39:51
and I think, yes, he might have been
39:53
guilty of over scrapping
39:54
a little bit sometimes
39:55
but that's the position,
39:56
that's the cards he's been dealt,
39:57
that's the position he's been putting
39:58
in his Formula One career.
39:59
So he deserves this.
40:00
It's a good decision from Red Bull
40:02
and please for Liam
40:03
but next year is a really big year for him.
40:06
Arvid Limblad was born in 2007.
40:10
Does that make you feel a bit sick?
40:12
Makes me feel sick.
40:13
Yeah, but I'm used to
40:14
feeling old by now.
40:15
He's so young, Christian.
40:18
He's for, you know,
40:20
since last season I heard
40:22
it's been when the Paddock whispers
40:24
started to get really strong
40:26
Like they did with sort of
40:27
Antonelli's of this world
40:28
that Red Bull have got another one.
40:29
They're really excited about Limblad.
40:31
They want to put him in the car.
40:32
His junior series record is impressive.
40:34
He's been impressive in Formula Two.
40:36
He's coped with the promotions well.
40:39
With every step on the motorsport ladder
40:42
He's done very, very well.
40:44
So he's somebody that I think, yeah,
40:46
this is not a surprise to me.
40:47
He deserves this shot at Formula One.
40:49
And I'm really excited to see
40:51
And it's a really good barometer
40:52
if you're up against it.
40:53
It's similar to Bearman at Haas.
40:55
You know, if Bearman goes and stacks up
40:58
well against Dockon, which he's done,
40:59
you think hello a minute.
41:00
This is somebody that can be
41:01
an F1 for a long time.
41:02
Well, if Limblad goes and beats Lawson,
41:04
that'll work really, really well for him.
41:07
So, yeah, good move.
41:10
We won't have the raft of rookies
41:12
we've had this season
41:14
or next season like we've had this season.
41:17
We've got another one in there.
41:18
And it's always nice to have a rookie
41:19
and it's good for the sport.
41:21
And I think he deserves it.
41:22
So, yeah, looking forward to seeing
41:23
what he's got to offer.
41:24
Five Brits next season.
41:26
Our British bias is going to be
41:27
through the roof Christian.
41:28
How are we going to come?
41:29
Yeah, I'll be just predicting them
41:30
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Kimmy Antonelli, Christian.
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Mercedes said he received death threats
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43:28
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43:31
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43:35
This was after Max Verstappen's race engineer
43:37
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43:39
said on the team radio, sorry,
43:41
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43:43
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43:44
Red Bull have since said that they regret
43:47
but I just think this was just
43:49
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43:50
What is wrong with people?
43:51
Also, Kimmy Antonelli is 19 years old.
43:54
Can you imagine dealing with all of this?
43:58
there's a few things I want to say on this.
44:01
We expect a lot of people involved
44:03
in Formula One that they're very off the cuff.
44:06
comments are broadcast around the world.
44:08
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44:10
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44:12
and it can be so easy to forget that this can be
44:14
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44:16
But it's a reminder to those guys
44:20
So shame Red Bull didn't go as far as to say,
44:22
we're sorry, you know, but fine.
44:24
It's certainly a reminder to the likes
44:26
of Helmut Marco as well,
44:27
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44:28
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44:30
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44:32
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44:33
I have sympathy for those reasons.
44:36
It's also a reminder to the abuse that Kimmy got
44:40
from the wider internet.
44:42
I'll be the first to admit, right?
44:45
This year, we've seen a rise
44:49
in the popularity of this podcast.
44:52
And with that has brought lots of lovely new listeners.
44:55
The rise in as someone that I come on
44:58
and I give my honestly held F1 opinions.
45:00
And I've struggled this year at times.
45:02
Better you know this because we're such good friends.
45:04
I've struggled sometimes with getting stick and abuse.
45:06
It's been a bit the step up in popularity.
45:08
The podcast has has brought with it
45:11
more scrutiny on the words I say
45:14
I've had more social media abuse across the board
45:16
and I've sometimes found that a real adjustment.
45:18
I'm okay at the minute, you know,
45:20
but I've there's been moments this year.
45:22
I've really struggled and I'm hosting a,
45:24
you know, two comparatively small
45:26
Formula One podcasts, right?
45:29
So I can't imagine how that feels
45:33
to be a Formula One driver.
45:35
Because if someone like me,
45:36
I'd like to think a fairly mentally strong person
45:38
has found the adjustment tricky as a broadcaster.
45:41
I can't imagine the level
45:45
that it's been with for someone like Antonelli
45:48
who is also so much younger than me, right?
45:50
So it's, I just think it's a little reminder
45:53
that you might be listening to this
45:55
and you might have sent stick abuse
45:59
what you think as banter thinking they won't see it.
46:02
It doesn't count because it's online.
46:04
It does. People see these things.
46:06
People read these things.
46:08
Your words do have an impact,
46:09
even if you're sending them anonymously,
46:11
even if you're behind a screen,
46:13
it can be really, really hard.
46:15
So I think it's just a little,
46:16
this is a little, of course,
46:17
Kimmy did not give up a position on purpose.
46:20
I think it's, I think it's just a little reminder
46:23
to people that we need to be careful
46:25
about the words we use
46:26
and that we're supposed to watch this sport
46:28
for fun and enjoyment
46:29
and be in awe of the people
46:31
that have this talent that we get to watch
46:34
and sometimes things will happen you disagree with,
46:37
but let's just keep into perspective that it's a sport
46:39
and these are human beings.
46:40
I think it was just a little reminder to the F1 world
46:42
that sometimes things have got a bit too heated
46:44
across the board this year
46:45
and we all need to remember there are humans
46:46
at the centre of all of this.
46:48
Well, it's also sport, guys.
46:51
The passion is incredible from these fans.
46:53
I love to see all of the passion.
46:56
and people really support their drivers,
46:58
but also it is sport.
47:00
Let's not forget it's sport.
47:01
It's entertainment.
47:02
It's supposed to be fun
47:03
and you do not need
47:06
to take certain actions to heart.
47:08
You do not need to say horrible things
47:11
to people on social media
47:12
and also if you're not willing
47:14
to say it to their face,
47:15
don't say it on social media.
47:16
It's as simple as that.
47:19
Horrible, horrible for Kimmy Antonelli
47:21
to have to deal with,
47:22
especially when he's had such a good season
47:25
and for it to end like this
47:27
to the point where he has to change his profile photo to black.
47:32
On that note, let's move on.
47:35
That was a bit dark.
47:37
We have got plenty of questions in.
47:42
We've got loads of questions in from you guys,
47:45
so let's go through some of them.
47:47
Reminder, by the way,
47:48
that we are on Fast Curious Pod on your social.
47:50
So if you've ever got anything that you want to say
47:52
or any questions, whack them over.
47:55
what are your final world championship
47:58
standing predictions?
48:02
I'm only going to go top three
48:03
and I'm going to be really boring
48:05
and I think Landau will do enough.
48:07
I don't think he'll win the race,
48:08
but I think he'll do enough.
48:13
Oscar was great last weekend
48:15
and the level on points.
48:16
So I'm going to go Landau, Oscar, Max.
48:20
That's what I was going to say as well,
48:21
but I'm going to change it now.
48:22
Actually, I'm going to go
48:25
Landau, Max, Oscar,
48:27
which I'm not happy about,
48:28
but I'm going to say it.
48:30
Actually, if Landau wins,
48:31
I'm really happy for that.
48:32
I don't know why there's so much rhetoric
48:35
Like he's actually getting a lot of
48:37
sort of bad stick for winning this championship,
48:39
whereas it would be amazing if he won it.
48:41
Anyway, Jenna says,
48:43
how do I watch the race start without fear
48:45
and Nat says, how am I supposed to breathe?
48:49
You don't watch the race start without fear.
48:52
You savor the fear.
48:55
You savor the nerves and the excitement.
48:57
It's a reminder that you're alive
48:59
and a reminder that you're passionate about something
49:01
and a reminder that it's something you love.
49:03
Revelling it, basking it, soak it up, enjoy it
49:06
because this is why we love Formula One
49:08
for moments like this.
49:10
Also, how lucky are we
49:13
that we have got a final race of the season
49:16
and three people could possibly win it?
49:19
This is what sport is about.
49:21
This is F1 at its absolute best.
49:23
Don't fear it, Jenna.
49:26
And also, Nat, breathe in through your nose
49:28
out through your mouth.
49:29
Thomas says, which rookie has impressed
49:31
or surprised you the most this year, Christian?
49:34
Oh, God, it's a really tough one.
49:36
I'm going to bottle it and say
49:38
they've all had really good seasons.
49:40
Bortoletto has not always had the car
49:42
but has shown plenty of fight and spirit.
49:45
I would probably put the other three slightly above him
49:48
and let's not class Lawson as a rookie for this.
49:51
Hadja, I discussed, has shown such sheer pace
49:55
and that's really, really impressive
49:57
and also maturity and ability to battle at times.
50:00
Berman has recovered from being a bit mistaken
50:03
to, again, his sheer pace at the end of the season
50:06
has been really impressive
50:08
as is his overtaking as well.
50:10
And Antonelli, who started the season so well
50:13
and I was so impressed with his start,
50:16
I was so impressed the way he's recovered
50:18
from the dip in the middle,
50:19
considering how much younger he is,
50:21
I've been really impressed with all of them
50:23
and it says a lot that they're all sticking around.
50:25
So, yeah, really, really impressed with all of them.
50:28
I think mine would be Oli Berman
50:30
because that fourth place finish in Mexico,
50:32
he nearly made it onto the podium.
50:35
Jess says, what unhinged prediction
50:37
would you like to see come true on the final race?
50:40
Well, I would like to see come true on the final race
50:43
as an unhinged prediction.
50:45
Yeah, just an unhinged thing.
50:47
Is a one-two for...
50:49
Lewis Hamilton on the podium.
50:50
I was going to say a one-two for Ferrari.
50:53
It is unhinged, but I'm just so sad
50:57
at seeing Charlotte and Lewis sad
50:59
and as Charlotte and Lewis being able to smile
51:03
at the end of the season
51:05
would see me into the Christmas break
51:07
with a bit of warmth in my heart.
51:11
It is unhinged because I don't see it,
51:13
but I'd love a positive weekend for Ferrari.
51:18
as all three drivers could win the Drivers' Champ,
51:20
will they treat Turn 1 differently this year?
51:23
Yeah, so Turn 1 here is one of those
51:26
You can get incidents.
51:30
We saw it last year.
51:33
So, will they treat it any differently?
51:38
I think, yeah, I think if you're...
51:42
It depends on qualifying, basically.
51:44
It's what I'm trying to say.
51:45
It's really difficult for me to answer that before qualifying.
51:48
If you're in a position where you've got nothing left to lose
51:50
and you fight for the championship,
51:52
sod it, I'll have a go.
51:53
So, therefore, it could be a bit different.
51:55
If you might think if you only need to come third
52:01
shall I go for this move for first in Turn 1?
52:04
Possibly, I'll be a bit careful.
52:06
The challenge of that, the danger of that,
52:09
is that if you even 1% go a little easy,
52:14
you could potentially, that 1%
52:17
heed you less than you expected
52:19
and you get flooded
52:20
and all of a sudden it's gone wrong
52:21
and you curse yourself for being overly cautious.
52:23
The answer to the question is,
52:25
I can't answer that because I'm not a racing driver.
52:28
There are merits in going easier if you've got more to lose.
52:31
But actually, this is why they're paid the big bucks.
52:34
This is why they're super talented.
52:36
The balance of that is a ridiculously tricky balance.
52:40
But to not duck the question
52:42
and to be a bit more precise,
52:45
I'd be very tempted to be a touch more cautious
52:48
into Turn 1 because is it possible to win the race
52:53
Well, possibly, but it's a lot more possible to lose it.
52:56
To lose a wheel, to lose a...
52:58
to get a puncture, to have contact.
53:00
That's why I potentially err on a touch of a side
53:03
of caution into Turn 1
53:04
if I was fighting for a championship.
53:06
It makes sense for Lando to be a bit more cautious
53:08
because he's in the best position, right?
53:10
He could finish third on the podium
53:12
and still win the championship.
53:13
Whereas for Oscar and Max,
53:15
you probably think they're going to be less cautious,
53:17
obviously, depending on where everyone starts.
53:19
But they're going to have to go for it, aren't they?
53:21
We will be on your feeds on Sunday evening
53:24
straight after the race.
53:25
It's going to be Christian and Greg, everybody.
53:27
Make sure you enjoy it.
53:29
Save it every moment.
53:30
Let's hope it's a good one.
53:32
we will be all over social media as well
53:34
across the weekend at Fast Cures Pod.
53:36
Drop us a follow there if you don't already.
53:38
And again, feel free,
53:39
send in any questions that you want.
53:41
We'll be back after the race on Sunday.
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