Title Battle Decider & Papaya Rules Dilemma | Abu Dhabi GP 2025 Preview

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Hello everybody and welcome back to the Fast and the Curious and our final race preview of the season.

Oh, it's a big one as well, isn't it? Three potential title winners and it all comes down to one race in Abu Dhabi.

Let's get into it. I'm Betty Glover. Hello Christian Hugill in Abu Dhabi who has been moaning that it is too hot.

Well, I'm sat here in Manchester seven degrees and it's absolutely f***ing it down. Christian, no sympathy.

No, moaning is a strong word. What I did say was going from the UK where it was so cold,

then having a quite lengthy plane delay, which I basically had four hours sleep and not complain.

I'm aware I've got a wonderful job. No complaint at all.

But going on no sleep plus really cold weather to really hot.

I think it's really confused my body. So I sort of woke up with no sleep arrived when it's dark,

like walking like out the hotel this morning and I've been like, oh my God, where am I?

What am I doing? It's hot. It's summer. Yeah, I'm just in a very confused jet lag state.

So forgive me if words are slightly hard to come by.

Oh my God, I feel so sorry for you Christian. Going from winter to summer, it must be so tough.

Yeah, right. We need to get straight into it because what a weekend we've got in store.

This is how it stands everybody. If you don't know it already, I'm sure everyone's memorized this anyway.

Lando Norris leads Max Verstappen by 12 points.

Oscar Piazza is a further four points behind. So it means this.

If Lando finishes on the podium in Abu Dhabi, he will be world champion for the first time.

It wouldn't matter where the other two come. All he needs is a top three finish.

It's a little bit more complicated for Max and Oscar. If Max wins, Lando needs to finish fourth or worse.

Oscar said himself he needs a lot of things to go his way to be in with a shot.

He can only win the title if he takes the checkered flag first or second with the other two not making the podium.

Christian, do you understand?

I do. Thank you for clarifying, Betty. I do understand.

Surely, surely Lando is the clear favorite here, Christian.

Yeah, listen, the McLaren car has been overall the quicker package across the season.

So he's got the car to do the job, you would think.

It's a car that worked well around this circuit last year and he works well around this circuit.

He's not always had a car that can win here, but he has stacked up really well against teammates here.

And his race win last year here was one of his best.

It was a really good win where he looked fantastic.

As you say, Betty, he just needs to finish on the podium and he has got the tools and the capabilities to do that.

Because, listen, Oscar was so brilliant in Qatar. He was absolutely fantastic.

Max is Max, right? You can never rule that.

Max must happen even if he doesn't have the quickest car.

But as you say, Betty, the thing is, well, he can be beaten by them.

So for that reason alone, he has to start as the favorite.

And that's not just because he's got the most points.

It's a good position for Lando to be in.

But of course, to quote the great Murray Walker, the legendary Formula One commentator,

anything can happen in Formula One and it usually does.

You say Lando's in the best position and obviously he is.

However, with that comes, I guess, pressure and expectation.

With great power comes great responsibility.

Well, yes, quite.

But Oscar's going to be coming into this thinking, I've got nothing to lose. I'm going to go for it.

Max is probably thinking, I've got nothing to lose. I can go for it.

Whereas Lando, arguably, as the leader, has everything to lose.

So I'm intrigued to know how mentally he's going to cope with that.

I think he's going to cope really well with it because I feel like his mentality has changed halfway through this season.

Yeah, I think he's in a really cool place.

I've said on the podcast a few times recently, I've been really impressed with how he's recovered from setbacks.

He seemed really chilled, really happy.

Well, there's been chaos around him.

He's just been quite chilled.

So I am not expecting a fraught, stressed Lando Norris going into this weekend.

Again, that's so easier said than done.

You know, he will be hard to beat this weekend.

Well, will he beat himself?

That's so often the case with top-level sports people that actually it's not their opposition that beats them it's themselves.

You know, could that happen to Lando this weekend?

Personally, I agree with you, Betty. I don't think so.

I think he's heading into this weekend in a really good mental place.

He's got the car. He's got the ability.

He is the strong favourite.

What he can't control is chaos around him.

And what I think he does need to do is get off the line well.

You know, he's lost a place to Max Verstappen off the line a couple of times recently.

It's something that has been levelled at him in his F1 career before that he doesn't get off the line too well.

But he's then recovered from that.

But that's if there's been a chink in his armory in this recent surge of form that getting off the line well has been it.

I said in Vegas how impressive his pole position was.

It was a brilliant performance against Max Verstappen in tricky conditions,

beating Max to pole in the West huge, but then he didn't get off the line well.

And of course, you know, let's be honest, that wasn't what lost them the race in Qatar.

It was the McLaren rules strategy.

Well, actually I say that. No, I say that. I'm slightly wrong though, aren't I?

Of course, Lando not getting off the line well really, really didn't help again.

So didn't help at all.

No, no, that is where that's going to be the thing that is that's the chink in his armaments going into this.

But again, let's be honest, so long as it doesn't go disastrously wrong and so long as qualifying is in a good place,

he could him qualifying first and ending up third in the first corner to those two.

Again, you could be like, well, this is fine, you know, it's still fine to win the championship.

But that is what that's something he needs to look out for.

Let's talk about Max Verstappen because like you said, you cannot rule him out.

You would be an idiot to rule Max Verstappen out of this.

He's won four times in Abu Dhabi.

He's got the best history on this track compared to Oscar and Lando.

How much of an advantage do you think that is going to give him?

Yeah, what we've often seen in recent years, even in more Mercedes dominant years,

is the Red Bull car coming into its own here.

As you say, he's done well and then in the Red Bull dominant years, Max did well as well.

So I guess what I'm saying is that if you know with Max, if he's got the car,

he will convert it into a win round here.

But as I say, it's a good Lando Norris track as well.

But I'm sort of at the point where we could be on talking or whatever preview podcast we like,

we could be in Belgium, Bahrain, Abu Dhabi or Silverstone.

Max Verstappen is Max Verstappen.

And so rarely this year has he looked like anything other than being sensational.

We've said in the debrief of the last race, it's maybe like Barcelona where he lost his head a little bit.

Other than that, he's looked almost unbeatable.

So it wouldn't surprise me at all if Max Verstappen wins the race.

He will be there to pounce.

He is the warning sign from McLaren that if you faff about too much guys

and make life too complicated for yourself, he will punish you.

We've run out of things to say about Max Verstappen.

He is for me operating at the best level in Formula One.

So therefore it's not a surprise if he wins this.

I think if Max Verstappen wins this, he will become Formula One's greatest of all time.

Or he'll be up there. He'll be up there.

He'll be the Formula One guy because the fact Christian that he's still in contention,

heading into the final race speaks absolute volumes.

And anybody that was sort of questioning him as a driver after 2021,

well, Max is just in the fastest car. That's the only reason why he's winning.

Turns out, guys, it's not just about the car.

No. And Formula One fans who've been in, you know, fans of the sport

for a long time, like my good self, have always said,

oh, it's just you've got the quickest car.

And Max Verstappen is the slam-dunk argument against that.

It's like, well, no, he won last year's championship

and he didn't have the quickest car pretty much from Miami onwards.

I don't like the historical comparisons and I do get very bored

of people going, well, Fangio was better.

It's so hard to compare different drivers in different areas.

You can't. But I broadly agree with you, Betty.

To me, I'm struggling to remember a Formula One driver

who is capable of eking out so much more than their car offers the Max.

And there's been people who've said to me across this season,

oh, is that the quickest car of all season?

No, he's not. Like he factually hasn't.

You know, analysis has been done.

McLaren has broadly across the season been about two-tenths quicker on average.

Of course, that comes with flash points where, you know,

oh, this car goes well in this particular circuit.

But this is the year that the car was nowhere near.

There was turmoil behind the scenes.

And yet, by being consistent, by being Max Verstappen,

by being a rock star, Max has kept himself so stubbornly in it,

he's clung on like a child on a climbing frame,

just clinging desperately on as they try and grapple and climb higher.

That has been Max stubbornly refusing to let go of the climbing frame

that is the title battle.

Can you tell I'm tired?

It's the end of the season because my analogies are running out.

He's just always clung on.

And if he wins it, if he defies all the odds to win it,

it will be one of Formula One's greatest ever World Championship victories.

It will be unbelievable because he's got no right to win this championship.

And it's not just, although this is a significant part of it,

it's not just McLaren holding the door open.

It's Max's supreme brilliance as well.

Of course it is.

Also, let's not forget, three months ago, he was 104 points behind.

That is ridiculous.

The gap that he has closed to get to this point is insane.

Let's talk about Oscar Piastri then.

He seemed back to his competitive self in Qatar.

You said that he had a brilliant weekend in Qatar, didn't you?

Really frustrating for him in the end, though.

How do you think he's going to approach this one?

All Oscar can do is go.

I went out in Qatar.

I certainly answered a few of my critics here

and I put in an unbelievably good performance.

That's all I can do.

So all he can do is go out there and do the same again.

The rest of it is unfortunately Oscar's control,

out of Oscar's control.

It's almost sort of one of the simpler positions to be in.

Just go out and be quick.

Let the rest happen around you.

There's nothing else he can control.

And he was so good in Qatar.

And we also, I think, so often expect perfection in Formula One

because we've spent so much time watching the likes

of Verstappen and the likes of Hamilton.

But the level of improvement from Oscar Piastri's

second season in Formula One to his third

has been sensational considering this is still a driver

only in his third season of F1

that his two title rivals have got many years on him.

Oscar has been brilliant this year.

His comeback in Qatar was brilliant.

And regardless of what happens this weekend,

his future is incredibly bright.

So all Oscar can go and do is go.

But I absolutely bloody rocked it in Qatar.

So let's go and do the same again

and see what the gods have got in my favor.

Let's not forget that Sebastian Vettel won the championship

having not led all season.

And I know Oscar has led for a chunk of the season,

but what I'm saying is Seb went into that race

as, oh, well, it's highly unlikely.

If podcasts were a thing back then,

all the preview pods would have been going,

well, yeah, it's going to be tricky for Seb.

Stranger things have happened, my friends,

than an Oscar-Piastri win.

So all he can do is go out to use the old cliche,

do his best and see what the formula one gods

are thinking for him.

That's a nice way of putting it.

I still think if... Thanks, mate.

If I was Oscar, I still, I think,

well, this is why I'm not professional sports person.

But I would be going into this weekend

still absolutely livid, I think.

I think I just wouldn't be able to get over it.

But you can't do that

because we love a football analogy, don't we, Betty?

That's where you go into a match-to-hept-up

and get yourself sent off by doing a two-footed tackle.

Oh, yeah, I'd have a red card.

Yeah, yeah.

I'd be sat in the dressing room.

Yeah, what you've got to do is put that behind you now,

move on.

They'll have had their DVDs, they'll have had their talks.

If you said in the last podcast, Betty,

hopefully they'll have learned from their mistakes,

hopefully they will have,

you've got to put all that behind you

and just start again.

Just take it.

You know, there is such merit in the old cliche

of take a long season like this one weekend at a time.

And this is perhaps the best example of that.

Let's talk about papaya rules, then,

the thing that everybody is thinking about.

Everyone trying to work out how on earth

are McLaren going to manage this?

So the question is, will papaya rules come into effect here?

Or are McLaren going to say, excuse me, Oscar,

if you're third and Lando's fourth,

you're going to have to let Lando pass

so he can win the championship?

Well, let's address that one.

I still think that's not a controversial call.

If Oscar can't win it in that situation,

then that's basic Formula One team orders.

McLaren would rather Lando win it than Max win it.

And I think Oscar would rather,

well, regardless of what he'd rather,

he's paid by McLaren.

So in that situation, yes,

that's not a complicated one.

I think the more complicated one

is saying Max is out the question.

I just, McLaren have had the admirable approach

of wanting to keep both drivers in it.

So many people have said in the paddock

across the season that I'm lucky enough

to go into regularly and you hear the talk.

Oh, it'll get tricky towards the end of the season.

Here we are right at the end of the season.

This will be so tricky for them to handle

because they've got themselves into a situation

where what's fair and what's not.

So to my mind, the only way they can do it this weekend

with now they've got to the end of the season

with both drivers still in contention,

which is sort of what they wanted.

To my mind, the only thing they can do is go,

let's see what happens, guys, away you go

and not get involved.

Just treat it like a normal Formula One race weekend

to try and win the Grand Prix for one of their cars.

To me, that's all they can do

because the alternative to that gets mind bogglingly

confusing and complicated.

Betty, do you agree with me there?

I think so.

Well, Zack Brown has said before

that he'd rather lose the title than issue team orders.

But obviously the first scenario that we said

if Max is in the lead,

then he's going to be in the lead

because of his third and Lando's fourth.

We know Lando, if he's not on the podium

and Max wins, then he can't win it.

So in that situation you might as well, yeah, yeah.

But Woody though, I don't know.

I don't know if he would and I don't know if he should.

I mean, he should because it's a team sport

but I don't think it's as simple as that, is that?

Because if you've been saying all season,

just race and there's no team orders.

You can't just suddenly bring in team orders

and say, well, no.

I mean, any other Formula One team in history

would say we want one of our drivers

to win the championship.

So it would be a no-brainer.

But as you said in the last podcast, Betty,

nobody's ever quite approached it like this.

I would like to think that Oscar would want to see

a McLaren driver win it.

And I would like to think as well from Lando

that if the situation were reversed,

this won't happen mathematically, it's not possible.

But if there was a situation where Lando's going,

I can't win it.

I think he would help Oscar.

The thing is, I've been asked so many times this season,

do the drivers get on well?

My belief is the same as is widely reported

from any journalist who is lucky enough

like me to spend time in McLaren at race weekends

to speak to both drivers regularly,

to speak to people who work with them directly,

to speak to people that know them.

They do like each other.

They respect each other.

They get on really well with each other.

They're not friends.

They're not going round each other's for dinner

because it's so hard to do that in this situation.

They might well be friends when they finish racing,

but there is a genuine like and mutual respect there.

And when I see them interacting, it's genuine.

It's smiling.

It's not awkward like we've seen from other Formula One drivers

in the past with their teammates.

It's not like, oh, these two hate each other.

So I for that reason think there would be.

And I also think if you Oscar Piatri,

I don't know to have in that situation,

we're hyper-theta sizing a very specific situation here,

which I don't want to do too much,

but would you want to go into a new season

sort of being like I went out my way

to block a driver in this team from winning the championship.

I think you put yourself in a very difficult position there

and undermine the whole point of all of this in the first place.

So yeah, I don't want to dwell too much on this,

but if the broad answer to your question, Betty,

how I would approach it and how it seems logical to me

to approach it would be just let them race

and let them be and let it happen on track now.

You've sort of done what you can, McLaren, just let it go.

On that, I also think just very quickly

on that specific example,

I think Oscar would make that call himself anyway

before getting told to do it.

If he knows that he's not going to be able to win it,

if he's in third and all he has to do is swap with Lando,

I think he would make that call personally.

Yeah, because he's part of a team and he's, sorry, Betty,

he's part of a team and he also would see the effects

of a McLaren driver not winning the title.

He would see the effect that would have on the team around him

who work across both cars.

You know, he would have to deal with that.

So he'd put himself in an impossible position.

Yeah, I do think Oscar would help Lando if he was out of it.

If Oscar even has the tiniest chance,

I would like to think McLaren wouldn't ask him

to sacrifice his own race and I would like to think

he wouldn't do so even if they did.

And that's why, to go back to my original point,

if both drivers are in with a chance, just let it happen

and treat it how you treat a normal race

would be my surely only way of approaching it.

But who knows?

Fascinating, though.

Some questions.

I've got two questions from listeners on this subject.

Lewis says, would ignoring team orders

hurt Oscar's career at McLaren?

Yes, as we've sort of just discussed,

but also I think it would damage his reputation

in Formula One as a whole.

If he was in a point where he couldn't win it,

but he blocked his teammate from winning it,

that potentially stops you, you know,

being signed to a team in the future.

That would come into people's questions.

That would be an act of self-sabotage for Oscar

that I don't think he needs.

Totally agree, because other teams will look at that

and think, oh, he's not a team player.

Christina says, are there rules to stop RB

asking V-Carb to impede or crash into the McLarens

to help Max?

Forgive me.

I don't have the sporting regulations in front of me.

I've had to rush to do this podcast,

to rush to leave the circuit, et cetera.

So forgive me.

Teams go racing in a certain spirit, right?

And I don't think for a minute, Red Bull,

you can't instruct a car to deliberately crash

in the spirit of racing and put drivers' lives at risk.

We did see it happen once in Formula One in the past

with the Singapore Grand Prix, Crash Gates,

Google that if you want to review it,

but that is out of the question.

That would not happen.

But would the B team be used potentially

in an on-track battle to try and help?

Well, it's only natural that it would,

because if you're part of the Red Bull setup

and you see that there's a McLaren behind you,

you know you're part of the Red Bull family, right?

So you would naturally do that.

So we could see a version of that.

I don't know what the rules say specifically.

Apologies for that.

You would see a version of that inevitably,

but don't expect anything dramatic.

Like, oh, we'll just take them out,

because that's not in the spirit anybody wants to go racing.

And it would be so damaging to the Red Bull Grand Long Term

that it's just not worth thinking about.

No, we wouldn't see any crashing,

but maybe they can help strategically try

and stop X, Y and Z go past or whatever.

Yeah, and to my mind, there's no specific rules against that

because we've seen it in the past, you know.

So teams can be teams, and that is part of, unfortunately,

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Who knows?

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Christian is in Abu Dhabi, wiping sweat off his brow.

Yeah, sorry about that.

Okay, Christian, I am worried about you in that heat.

It must be really tough.

Yeah, I'm about to go into the circuit.

I'm loitering outside by the bay,

and my phone is so it doesn't overheat in the shade

and I am not.

So it's fine, but I can wipe for free.

The phone braking would not be for free.

So the phone is taking priority here.

You are looking a little bit red as well, I think.

Yeah, I genuinely forgot to put some cream on my face this morning as well,

which I always do on a hot race.

So yeah, I'm all over the shop, frankly.

I thought I'd sleep you looking. I'm standing.

Well, I know you are wobbling a bit.

And you should always put SPF on, Christian.

I know, I know.

I've forgotten.

I've literally, I forgot.

I put it on every morning normally

when I'm in warm-ish countries and I forgot.

Yeah, forgot.

No, no, you should wear it every day anyway,

even in winter.

Anyway.

I know.

And I do when I forgot.

Leave me alone.

I've had four hours of sleep.

I mean, just let a man live.

I'm sorry.

I forgot.

I normally put it on every morning.

It's there.

It's on the sink.

I forgot.

I'm sorry.

It's a little long.

Wow.

I'm sorry.

I think I've broken him.

I'm tired.

I think I've broken him.

I forgot.

Right.

Let's get on to Izakhaja then.

22 seats have finally been confirmed for next season.

Thanks to Red Bull for finally making up their minds.

This was a big shock, wasn't it?

Izakhaja is promoted to the main Red Bull team.

It means Lawson keeps his place at Racing Bulls.

An 18-year-old Arvid Lindblad joins him.

It also, therefore, means that Yuki Sonoda is dropped

altogether but stays with the Red Bull setup

as test and reserve driver.

Poor old Yuki.

Let's talk about Izakhaja first

because you said when we spoke about this earlier in the season

that you'd have been tempted to leave Yuki in at Red Bull

for next season and keep Haja where he is

for one more season.

That hasn't happened, Christian.

No.

My logic in that was that we're going into a new rule set.

Yuki is an experienced Formula One driver

and maybe it would have helped them get used to the new rule set.

And I did think that earlier in the season.

You're absolutely right.

I've changed my mind.

Yuki has not shown anywhere near the pace needed

and therefore it makes sense to invest in the future

and give a young driver the chance to get used to a car

in the new rule set from the off.

So I've changed my mind.

I think Red Bull have done exactly the right thing

and I think I'd have come to that decision

towards the end of the season.

He said, middle of the season, when we spoke about it,

he was sort of leaning towards.

And part of my reason for changing my mind

is that he's continued to be more and more impressive.

I think he can cope with it.

I think he is ready.

I think the new rule changes will put him

at less of a disadvantage than other new people

in at Red Bull because we've seen with signs

at Williams with Hamilton at Ferrari

how difficult it is in the current rule changes

to move into a team when your teammate

has had a car for a long time.

How difficult it is to get used to that.

That's exaggerated at Red Bull

because Max has got such a unique driving style.

So getting someone young and talented in early doors

makes a lot of sense.

I just hope Red Bull stick with him for a bit

and give him the time if it doesn't start well.

I would be saying to him, don't worry.

You've got time here.

We know it's a new rule set.

You've got time.

If they don't, then they'll just start

going on the same cycle they've had before

and nothing will change.

I think if they are making Isaac feel comfortable

and happy and secure,

it will work out well for them

and there's the potential there to have the strongest line-up

since Verstappen and Ricardo at Red Bull.

I just hope they give him time if it doesn't go well

because this is a guy that can win races in my view.

He's the most impressive Red Bull driver

to come into the Red Bull for probably

since Verstappen for my money.

So I really hope they look after him.

He's up there.

Definitely is one of the best rookies

in their first season.

He's been brilliant.

You just watch him and you think, oh, yeah,

you've got something a bit special there.

I just worry about that second Red Bull seat

because we know it's a little bit cursed.

Don't we, alongside Max Verstappen?

But the two of them together,

that is going to be fascinating, Christian.

Yeah, it is.

It is.

And I think he also, Isaac needs to go in

and this is tricky for some teammates

when they're going up against a real great

to be like, look, you're not going to be on his pace.

And I think the sooner people like

Max with Hamilton and Perez with Verstappen have accepted that

the results came better.

You're not going to be on his pace.

All right, it might be long term.

You won't be in the future.

So I think play the long game

from both driver and team perspective.

Do you feel sorry for Yuki Sonoda?

Do you think this is quite harsh?

No, I don't.

Yuki's a really nice guy

who I've enjoyed interviewing,

enjoyed talking to

and has got a good reputation in the paddock.

I don't think he comprehensively

beats his teammates enough

at Alcatari RB as it's been.

I think that was a main part of the reason why

Red Bull didn't think he was up to that seat

and only really bought him in

when they'd explored all other options

and made this, in my view,

too premature move to drop Lawson.

I think he's shown flashes of speed over his career,

but it's not been consistent enough.

Did he spectacularly outpace

the likes of Ricardo Lawson?

I mean, he was roundly beaten by Gasly.

No, and has he performed well enough

in the seat this year?

No, even with what we know

in the trickiness of the seats.

I've seen a lot of people going,

oh my gosh, poor Yuki.

I think they're basing that off

a likable, enjoyable personality

and character rather than

his sheer driving ability.

I think certain Formula One drivers

come and go and Yuki Sonoda has reached

Formula One,

competed in Formula One really,

really well

and has had a solid F1 career

and will rightly go down

as someone that made it to Formula One

and was brilliant.

But these drivers eventually fall off

the conveyor belt

and for some it's too premature.

For some they stay too long.

For Yuki, it's about right for me.

This is about the right time

for Formula One to say goodbye

to Yuki Sonoda.

He's a solid backup option.

You would put him in the car absolutely

if one of the four other drivers

became ill, injured.

There was a last minute change needed.

That makes perfect sense

to keep him in the team,

to keep him in the setup.

That'll be tricky for him,

I'm sure mentally.

But no, I think it's the right decision

and I think Red Bull

have made the right decision

all around with not putting Yuki

back in RB.

And also, what other team would go,

do you know what we think

we want Yuki?

I don't see it happening.

I think it's the right time

and I get no pleasure in saying that

because Yuki's a nice guy

but I think it's on track

the right move.

I also think that

you would rather invest

in a younger driver at this point

in that team

and allow them to develop.

You sort of maybe feel like

Yuki's possibly hit his ceiling.

Is there much more to come from him?

I don't know.

So I can understand

the decision for sure.

Let's talk about Liam Lawson

because there was a lot of

question marks over what

his future was going to be.

Would he be staying on?

Does he deserve to stay on?

He is in fact staying on.

What do you think about that?

I think it's the right move

because I think

he's had so little stability

in his career coming in

as a super sub,

being bought back in,

getting promoted to Red Bull,

being dropped from Red Bull.

He deserves a little bit of stability

and actually if he does perform well

I think what could happen ultimately

is what happened to Gasly

and that he was dropped

from the Red Bull fold

and picked up by another team.

I don't think that's going to happen

for Snoda

but with a stable season behind him

that still might just happen

for Lawson.

It's a make or break year.

I think he needs to do really well

and beat Limblad.

If he doesn't, I think this will be his,

20-26 will be his last season

in Formula One

but I think he deserves one more

shot and I think he gets a bit

of a harsh press, Liam Lawson.

He's had to scrap for his

Formula One life all the time.

So yes, he's been a bit

overly aggressive at times

but I like Liam.

I've interviewed him a lot of times

and he's a nice guy.

I think some of the sort of stuff

you hear about Liam is not fair

and I think, yes, he might have been

guilty of over scrapping

a little bit sometimes

but that's the position,

that's the cards he's been dealt,

that's the position he's been putting

in his Formula One career.

So he deserves this.

It's a good decision from Red Bull

and please for Liam

but next year is a really big year for him.

Arvid Limblad was born in 2007.

Does that make you feel a bit sick?

Makes me feel sick.

Yeah, but I'm used to

feeling old by now.

He's so young, Christian.

He's so young.

It's a good move.

He's for, you know,

since last season I heard

it's been when the Paddock whispers

started to get really strong

about Limblad.

Like they did with sort of

Antonelli's of this world

that Red Bull have got another one.

They're really excited about Limblad.

They want to put him in the car.

His junior series record is impressive.

He's been impressive in Formula Two.

He's coped with the promotions well.

With every step on the motorsport ladder

he's promoted.

He's done very, very well.

So he's somebody that I think, yeah,

this is not a surprise to me.

He deserves this shot at Formula One.

And I'm really excited to see

what he's made of.

And it's a really good barometer

if you're up against it.

It's similar to Bearman at Haas.

You know, if Bearman goes and stacks up

well against Dockon, which he's done,

you think hello a minute.

This is somebody that can be

an F1 for a long time.

Well, if Limblad goes and beats Lawson,

that'll work really, really well for him.

So, yeah, good move.

Excited to see.

We won't have the raft of rookies

we've had this season

or next season like we've had this season.

But it's nice.

We've got another one in there.

And it's always nice to have a rookie

and it's good for the sport.

So, yeah.

And I think he deserves it.

So, yeah, looking forward to seeing

what he's got to offer.

Five Brits next season.

Our British bias is going to be

through the roof Christian.

How are we going to come?

Yeah, I'll be just predicting them

for a top five every week.

Week in, week out.

Yeah.

Definitely.

When we're back

we'll be answering all of your questions.

And we're going to talk about

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Welcome back everybody.

I really want to talk about

Kimmy Antonelli, Christian.

Mercedes said he received death threats

after the catargo on pre.

He had to change his Instagram profile

to black on Monday

after just receiving a host of messages

on social media.

This was after Max Verstappen's race engineer

said the team radio,

said on the team radio, sorry,

that it looked like Kimmy had pulled over

and let Norris through.

Red Bull have since said that they regret

the comments,

but I just think this was just

so horrible to see, wasn't it?

What is wrong with people?

Also, Kimmy Antonelli is 19 years old.

Can you imagine dealing with all of this?

I think it's,

there's a few things I want to say on this.

We expect a lot of people involved

in Formula One that they're very off the cuff.

He to the moment,

comments are broadcast around the world.

So, you know, a team,

a race engineer can be speaking to a driver

and it can be so easy to forget that this can be

instantly clipped up and sent around the world.

But it's a reminder to those guys

that that happens.

So shame Red Bull didn't go as far as to say,

we're sorry, you know, but fine.

It's certainly a reminder to the likes

of Helmut Marco as well,

just to be a little bit careful

with your words sometimes.

But again, he to the moment,

heat of top level sport,

I have sympathy for those reasons.

It's also a reminder to the abuse that Kimmy got

from the wider internet.

I'll be the first to admit, right?

This year, we've seen a rise

in the popularity of this podcast.

And with that has brought lots of lovely new listeners.

The rise in as someone that I come on

and I give my honestly held F1 opinions.

And I've struggled this year at times.

Better you know this because we're such good friends.

I've struggled sometimes with getting stick and abuse.

It's been a bit the step up in popularity.

The podcast has has brought with it

more scrutiny on the words I say

and more and more.

I've had more social media abuse across the board

and I've sometimes found that a real adjustment.

I'm okay at the minute, you know,

but I've there's been moments this year.

I've really struggled and I'm hosting a,

you know, two comparatively small

Formula One podcasts, right?

So I can't imagine how that feels

to be a Formula One driver.

Because if someone like me,

I'd like to think a fairly mentally strong person

has found the adjustment tricky as a broadcaster.

I can't imagine the level

that it's been with for someone like Antonelli

who is also so much younger than me, right?

So it's, I just think it's a little reminder

that you might be listening to this

and you might have sent stick abuse

what you think as banter thinking they won't see it.

It doesn't count because it's online.

It does. People see these things.

People read these things.

It does.

Your words do have an impact,

even if you're sending them anonymously,

even if you're behind a screen,

it can be really, really hard.

So I think it's just a little,

this is a little, of course,

Kimmy did not give up a position on purpose.

I think it's, I think it's just a little reminder

to people that we need to be careful

about the words we use

and that we're supposed to watch this sport

for fun and enjoyment

and be in awe of the people

that have this talent that we get to watch

and sometimes things will happen you disagree with,

but let's just keep into perspective that it's a sport

and these are human beings.

I think it was just a little reminder to the F1 world

that sometimes things have got a bit too heated

across the board this year

and we all need to remember there are humans

at the centre of all of this.

Well, it's also sport, guys.

The passion is incredible from these fans.

I love to see all of the passion.

People love it

and people really support their drivers,

but also it is sport.

Let's not forget it's sport.

It's entertainment.

It's supposed to be fun

and you do not need

to take certain actions to heart.

You do not need to say horrible things

to people on social media

and also if you're not willing

to say it to their face,

don't say it on social media.

It's as simple as that.

It really is.

Horrible, horrible for Kimmy Antonelli

to have to deal with,

especially when he's had such a good season

and for it to end like this

to the point where he has to change his profile photo to black.

It's disgusting.

On that note, let's move on.

That was a bit dark.

We have got plenty of questions in.

Bit cheerful.

We've got loads of questions in from you guys,

so let's go through some of them.

Reminder, by the way,

that we are on Fast Curious Pod on your social.

So if you've ever got anything that you want to say

or any questions, whack them over.

Georgie says,

what are your final world championship

standing predictions?

Ooh.

I'm only going to go top three

and I'm going to be really boring

and I think Landau will do enough.

I don't think he'll win the race,

but I think he'll do enough.

So I will go.

And you know what?

Oscar was great last weekend

and the level on points.

So I'm going to go Landau, Oscar, Max.

Yeah, I agree.

That's what I was going to say as well,

but I'm going to change it now.

Actually, I'm going to go

Landau, Max, Oscar,

which I'm not happy about,

but I'm going to say it.

Oh, I am happy.

Actually, if Landau wins,

I'm really happy for that.

I don't know why there's so much rhetoric

around Landau.

Like he's actually getting a lot of

sort of bad stick for winning this championship,

whereas it would be amazing if he won it.

Anyway, Jenna says,

how do I watch the race start without fear

and Nat says, how am I supposed to breathe?

You don't watch the race start without fear.

You savor the fear.

You savor the nerves and the excitement.

It's a reminder that you're alive

and a reminder that you're passionate about something

and a reminder that it's something you love.

Revelling it, basking it, soak it up, enjoy it

because this is why we love Formula One

for moments like this.

Also, how lucky are we

that we have got a final race of the season

and three people could possibly win it?

Guys, this is it.

This is what sport is about.

This is F1 at its absolute best.

Don't fear it, Jenna.

Enjoy it.

And also, Nat, breathe in through your nose

out through your mouth.

Thomas says, which rookie has impressed

or surprised you the most this year, Christian?

Oh, God, it's a really tough one.

I'm going to bottle it and say

they've all had really good seasons.

Bortoletto has not always had the car

but has shown plenty of fight and spirit.

I would probably put the other three slightly above him

and let's not class Lawson as a rookie for this.

Hadja, I discussed, has shown such sheer pace

and that's really, really impressive

and also maturity and ability to battle at times.

Berman has recovered from being a bit mistaken

to, again, his sheer pace at the end of the season

has been really impressive

as is his overtaking as well.

And Antonelli, who started the season so well

and I was so impressed with his start,

I was so impressed the way he's recovered

from the dip in the middle,

considering how much younger he is,

I've been really impressed with all of them

and it says a lot that they're all sticking around.

So, yeah, really, really impressed with all of them.

I think mine would be Oli Berman

because that fourth place finish in Mexico,

he nearly made it onto the podium.

Love it.

Jess says, what unhinged prediction

would you like to see come true on the final race?

Well, I would like to see come true on the final race

as an unhinged prediction.

Yeah, just an unhinged thing.

Is a one-two for...

Lewis Hamilton on the podium.

I was going to say a one-two for Ferrari.

It is unhinged, but I'm just so sad

at seeing Charlotte and Lewis sad

and as Charlotte and Lewis being able to smile

at the end of the season

would see me into the Christmas break

with a bit of warmth in my heart.

So, I'd love a...

It is unhinged because I don't see it,

but I'd love a positive weekend for Ferrari.

Yeah, Andy says,

as all three drivers could win the Drivers' Champ,

will they treat Turn 1 differently this year?

Yeah, so Turn 1 here is one of those

because it's wide.

You can get incidents.

We saw it last year.

So, will they treat it any differently?

I think, yeah, I think if you're...

It depends on qualifying, basically.

It's what I'm trying to say.

It's really difficult for me to answer that before qualifying.

If you're in a position where you've got nothing left to lose

and you fight for the championship,

you sort of think,

sod it, I'll have a go.

So, therefore, it could be a bit different.

If you might think if you only need to come third

and I'm in second,

shall I go for this move for first in Turn 1?

Possibly, I'll be a bit careful.

The challenge of that, the danger of that,

is that if you even 1% go a little easy,

you could potentially, that 1%

heed you less than you expected

and you get flooded

and all of a sudden it's gone wrong

and you curse yourself for being overly cautious.

The answer to the question is,

I can't answer that because I'm not a racing driver.

There are merits in going easier if you've got more to lose.

But actually, this is why they're paid the big bucks.

This is why they're super talented.

The balance of that is a ridiculously tricky balance.

But to not duck the question

and to be a bit more precise,

I'd be very tempted to be a touch more cautious

into Turn 1 because is it possible to win the race

in Turn 1?

Well, possibly, but it's a lot more possible to lose it.

To lose a wheel, to lose a...

to get a puncture, to have contact.

That's why I potentially err on a touch of a side

of caution into Turn 1

if I was fighting for a championship.

It makes sense for Lando to be a bit more cautious

because he's in the best position, right?

He could finish third on the podium

and still win the championship.

Whereas for Oscar and Max,

you probably think they're going to be less cautious,

obviously, depending on where everyone starts.

But they're going to have to go for it, aren't they?

We will be on your feeds on Sunday evening

straight after the race.

It's going to be Christian and Greg, everybody.

Make sure you enjoy it.

Enjoy it.

Save it every moment.

Let's hope it's a good one.

In the meantime,

we will be all over social media as well

across the weekend at Fast Cures Pod.

Drop us a follow there if you don't already.

And again, feel free,

send in any questions that you want.

We'll be back after the race on Sunday.

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