The episode features a mix of racing talk, personal stories, and fan reactions. Highlights include reflections on family moments at races, superstitions like haircuts for good luck, and humorous fan calls reacting to recent events. A notable guest, Magnum TA, shares a harrowing story about his 1986 car accident and recovery. The discussion also covers NASCAR's stance on driver altercations, fines for fighting, and how drivers might send messages on track in the future. There's also nostalgia around throwback paint schemes and lighthearted skiing mishaps.
We managed to jam-pack this episode of the Dirty Thirty with highlights from SIX of Dirty Mo Media's shows this week. Our hosts need to stop making it so hard to pick with these banger moments — this show is only thirty minutes, guys!
First up, Denny Hamlin predicts where his final win total lands and talks about what it meant to have his family in Las Vegas for victory number 61.
A day later and possibly a dollar shorter from an extra night on the strip, we hear from the fans of Door Bumper Clear in Reaction Theatre, where Wood Brothers Racing President Jon Wood shares what he would personally do to will Josh Berry into some better finishes.
After that, legendary wrestler Magnum T.A. describes the circumstances surrounding the car wreck that almost took his life, and still affects him to this day.
In Dirty Air this week, Dale Jr. reacts to the news that Carson Hocevar will run a throwback scheme of his dad's — and it just so happens to be Jr.'s favorite paint scheme of the Intimidator's.
Speaking of favorites, our favorite power couple came back from spring break, so you know Dale & Amy have tons to discuss about skiing, falling, and laughing all the way.
Lastly, Jeff Gluck interviewed Ricky Stenhouse Jr. to get some insight on what goes into (and comes out of) throwing a punch, after Daniel Suarez & Ross Chastain almost got physical on pit road last weekend.
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"And Dick Murlock rode back with me when I had a 9-11 turbo Porsche. It was my dream car from when I was a kid. I'd bought it."
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"And I hit that water in a hydroplane. And I've hydroplane so many times I can't even tell you other times in my life."
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"But, I mean, I hit it so hard it knocked the half shafts out of the motor."
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"My C5 rear-brake explodes. Can't move anything from my neck down."
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"...as a student on his way home, found me and called 911. And they used the jaws of life, cut the top of ..."
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"...That's hilarious. So look, this is my favorite Dale Earnhardt paint scheme. It's the 1981 car and it gets no love because 81 was a lost year..."
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"...they've got blue tape on the valence. And so it's a yellow nose."
The valence is a part at the bottom front or back of a car that helps with airflow and looks. Sometimes people put tape on it to change how it works or looks during races.
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"Some fans out there believe that throwbacks are gone, like the idea of running throwbacks are gone. And so I'm reading on social media... fans are like, well, I wish throwback weekend was still a thing."
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"Nobody could do a throwback anymore any good. So I just find it... NASCAR basically, I don't know if their messaging wasn't good enough or whatever, but what probably should have been said was we're shifting our focus away from the idea of focusing on the throwback paint schemes."
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"Teams are still doing them, obviously, a lot of truck teams, Xfinity teams, Cup teams. It's just no longer going to feel like this sort of forced campaign that you're kind of going to if you don't, and you're criticized if you do."
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"Teams are still doing them, obviously, a lot of truck teams, Xfinity teams, Cup teams. It's just no longer going to feel like this sort of forced campaign that you're kind of going to if you don't, and you're criticized if you do."
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"Teams are still doing them, obviously, a lot of truck teams, Xfinity teams, Cup teams. It's just no longer going to feel like this sort of forced campaign that you're kind of going to if you don't, and you're criticized if you do."
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Hey everybody, I'm Dillon Hart, Jr. And this is the Dirty 30, the best highlights from all of our podcast this week.
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Hey guys, welcome to Action and Detrimental after Las Vegas.
We've been on this train of get to 60 wins for a few years. Now you're at 61. You kind of know where the checkered flag is on your career.
Right. I thought that realistically it was, I think I'm going to fall at 67. That's where I think it ends more than likely.
In the next year, more than likely 67. That's just by the numbers. That's not any, oh I feel this, I feel that.
That's just where the numbers land, averaging what I average three, four wins a year.
What did the embrace with your mom mean?
Yeah, it was great. I mean, she went to Daytona. I don't know about any others. I can't remember. Really can't remember.
She did go to Atlanta. But none of my family, mom, dad, fiance and kids, none of them were at the 60th.
West Coast races, it's really hard with the kids because you got school and stuff the next day. It's just impossible.
My typical rule of thumb, if I can't get them home by 7, 8 o'clock on a Sunday, they're not going to go to the race because I just got to get up.
Got to go to school the next day.
While it's cool to be able to FaceTime them, like we probably did in Victory Lane at Vegas in the fall, it just nothing beats when they're actually there because they get to create that memory.
They're not going to remember watching 60 on TV because I can assure you three minutes later, they were probably gone and doing something else.
You know what I mean? The memory was them riding in the car and Molly picking up the confetti in Victory Lane and throwing it.
That's where the memories kind of get made is when you're in that moment.
It was really fun that I had everyone there for this latest.
That hasn't happened ever?
I don't remember. That's a good point. I don't know that I've ever, not I have, but I can't remember the last time we had everyone there at the same time.
My mom travels as much as Jordan does, but not always the same weeks.
But I also mean Taylor and Molly have never ridden in the car to...
Taylor has.
They have once before.
That's why in the group text I said, in the group text I put, I said, we just passed tech, we're good.
And that's what I said in post race media says, Taylor's got to enjoy this and the one time she did, they took the trophy from me five hours later.
Like, that was bull.
You didn't think like, Taylor, I can't have you get in this car?
No, I just, you know, especially Molly, she hadn't got to do it before, but it was so cool because, like, I didn't tell Molly to hold that flag out.
Like, she just naturally did it. So it was very cool.
I love their reaction.
They got in. When they got in, they were like, oh my God, it's hot in here.
Like, damn right it is.
Hey, what's up everybody? Welcome back to Door Bumper Clear.
It's time for a reaction theater where fans can call in and voice their opinions from this weekend's race.
Hey, I saw Freddie doing a video the other day, a promo or something, and he didn't have his hat on.
And I thought, my God, I thought Wolfman Jack was dead.
But then I got to looking into that full head of hair, and I thought, my God, I wish I had that hair.
I had that much hair in that beautiful head of hair.
I'd be getting more ass, and I told it.
Somehow I knew that was coming.
You kind of like broke the internet with that photo of you.
I mean, I don't know what the problem is.
It looks like the baby Grinch.
Tell them why.
So my dad had a superstition when I was growing up that every year on opening night,
you had to have a fresh haircut and a new pair of sneakers.
That was their superstition.
Whatever it was, him and Tommy Ryan had the same thing every year.
I never seen Tommy clean.
Every right before we leave for Daytona every year, I always go get a haircut the day before.
And that's been my good luck charm.
And we've always run fairly well, never won.
So it's obviously not that good luck charm.
So this year, couldn't go, the girl canceled the day before or whatever.
So I was like, oh no, I'm not going to get a haircut before Daytona.
And then my lovely wife, Megan knows how superstitious I am.
She's like, well, what are you going to do if you guys run well?
You know, like you're going to have to keep not be able to cut your hair.
And I was like, well, that's not, yeah, whatever.
It's fine.
So here we are six weeks later and I'm second in points.
And now I'm not going to be able to cut my hair for a while, apparently.
So hopefully, I mean, hopefully I don't cut it for the next, I don't know,
six months.
We'll see what that looks like.
But I would imagine I'm waiting for, I think I've decided.
I think like if we don't have a top 10 points day is where I'm going to draw the line.
So hopefully we keep it up.
And he keeps top 10 every race so far.
We finished 11th at Kota, but it was, we had stage points.
It was like, we were like seven, three eighth and points that day.
So you're going to count that.
So I'm going to count that one.
Yeah. Top 10 points.
If we're in the top 10 points.
So did you get new shoes?
Yeah.
I get new shoes all the time.
The company I work for has a pretty good shoe.
That guy's got sneakers.
So a haircut is the secret.
Oh, here we go.
That's how, that's how we have, I mean,
when we go to these meetings, the analytics meeting,
I shaved my legs to not be where I'm at right now.
You heard everybody heard that, right?
Everybody heard.
Let's see a video.
You're going to shave your leg.
Top 10 this week.
You heard it here first.
We go to these analytics meeting.
They're talking about all these numbers.
I'm just rubbing my hair.
I'm like, guys, I don't know if you know this.
Yeah, I don't know.
You can talk about whatever you want.
As long as I don't cut this, we're going to run good this week.
All right, Austin Powers.
If we won a Riley race and you start putting people into the corner
like your Dr. Evil or something.
Should you be penalized for that?
Yeah, baby. Yeah.
He's talking about Sheldon Creed.
Oh, calling him Austin Powers.
Are these real calls?
That's Dawson.
You guys got quite the production.
I don't know.
Yeah, I did see.
I didn't know what led up to that.
Like if it had happened multiple times in the race,
it looked like a little bit of overkill to me.
I don't know if you saw it, but the 54th or a little bit of a block
and Sheldon kind of just went in there and wiped him out.
I don't know that that was necessary,
but again, I don't know if it happened.
Even if it happened five times in the race,
I still don't think you need to wreck the guy to get your point across.
But whatever.
Maybe he didn't mean to do it.
I don't know.
Maybe he probably hates that it happened like everybody else does.
Hate that it happened.
Yeah!
You chase sex was f*** you!
What did he say?
Chase sex was f*** you, he said.
Yeah.
He must be happy.
Chase been a second.
Oh, Denny beat him?
Oh, no, wait.
Chase.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
He made the Den- yeah.
No, he's happy that Denny won,
so he's talking f*** to the chase sexual.
Oh, okay.
I think I pieced it together now.
Can you play that again?
Sure thing.
I didn't hear what he said the first time.
Yeah.
Yeah!
You chase sexual is f*** you!
Yeah, yeah.
Yep.
Yeah, he's a Denny fan.
Yep, yep.
Do you know what a chase sexual is?
I don't.
That's a Chase Elliott fan on Double McLeer apparently.
They've named themselves over here, so that's like he said.
Our crowd is a little different.
I mean, I'm talking about shaving my legs.
Yeah, yeah.
Not one to judge.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You've been here an hour, now look at you.
Here we go.
Yeah, we're about 34 bush lights deep, and we're just wondering about the race, you know?
I would say Hung Money has stepped on his pecker for the third race in a row.
And what would you say about Denny Hamlet?
I think Denny Hamlet, he had a good race, you know?
But you know, I wish Kyle also had a little good race after yesterday, but you know, it's
okay.
That is what Reaction Theater is for.
That's Reaction Theater.
Denny Hamlet drinking 34 bush lights and calling in.
Did they know Denny even won?
That sounds like a mid-race.
Yeah.
That was a mid-race call, I think.
That's what happened.
We've got a great guest coming in, stepping outside of the racing industry for a minute.
Terry Wayne Allen, also known as Magnum TA.
Okay, let's talk about the accident.
1986, October.
You're on your way home from a match.
Do you remember that day?
October 14th.
I was coming, I wrestled Jimmy Garvin in a Lumberjack match in Greenville, South Carolina.
And Dick Murlock rode back with me when I had a 9-11 turbo Porsche.
It was my dream car from when I was a kid.
I'd bought it.
I'd had it about four or five months.
And it was pouring down rain.
And it was just horrible out.
And we get all the way back to Charlotte and we stop it up.
The Benningons was like the watering hole where we all hung out when we got back to town and
we got back before it closed.
And I lived literally 10 minutes from there.
Man.
And I said goodnight to him.
I was heading home.
It was coming down Sardis Road and back then that was a two-lane road over there where
Charlotte Christian School is.
And there was a little dog leg turn in the two-lane road and there was a dip in it.
And it was raining so hard that the water had gathered really heavy.
And so I'm running faster than I should.
I'm running like 55 miles an hour in a 35.
But in that car it felt like you weren't moving, right?
And I hit that water in a hydroplane.
And I've hydroplane so many times I can't even tell you other times in my life.
But I've never done it in a rear-engine car.
And when I let off the gas and went to turn into it to catch it, it didn't catch.
And then in a middle of a second I said, you know, they told me you had to drive these
things out of a problem when you got it.
Well, when I got back in it, it spun the tires.
The turbo kicked in and I spun the other way.
And I broad-sided the telephone pole.
You know, no telling with the whip that it made.
How hard I hit it.
But, I mean, I hit it so hard it knocked the half shafts out of the motor.
The motor never turns off.
I compression fracture my head on the roof.
My C5 rear-brake explodes.
Can't move anything from my neck down.
I'm driven down in the floor of the car.
And, you know, there I lay for what seemed like forever.
A young man, he was a student on his way home, found me and called 911.
And they used the jaws of life, cut the top of the car off and take me to...
They couldn't air lift me out because it was raining so hard.
And I got to get to the hospital and all of a sudden I got this, you know, the surgeon
standing over me telling me I've got a million and one shot of air walking again.
Damn it.
And, you know, like you said, on the precipice of the biggest time in my life, career-wise.
When do you start to realize, you know, what you got, right?
I realized when he told me, because first of all, I didn't hurt.
And I didn't have a cut on me.
I had a little scratch on my head, but I just hit my head on the roof and like I said,
the pressure drove me down.
And so I wasn't in pain, but it was a horrible feeling.
You know, I didn't know why I couldn't move.
You know, I always thought if you broke your neck, you were dead.
I didn't know you could break your neck and survive.
And so I wasn't putting it all together, but I was five months in the hospital.
I was 30 days in ICU and then another four months in the hospital and rehab in Charlotte.
And it was just the most brutal battle of my life.
Just trying to get back where I could breathe off a respirator and, you know,
start getting some movement.
I had a decompression surgery done within eight hours of the accident.
So I had fragments in my cord, my disc was pushed all shape up against the cord.
They didn't know if I was going to make it overnight, much less anything else.
So it was really touching go.
And, you know, I mean, they snuck.
Dusty got the Doug Dillinger, who did our security, was also a Charlotte police officer.
And he made him a way to get Flare and Aaron and Tully and them up to come see me
because they didn't know if I was going to make it.
And they all came to see me in the ICU.
Do you remember that?
Do you remember them?
Oh, yeah, I remember it well.
And I couldn't talk because I had a trach.
And it was the most helpless feeling imaginable.
Can't move, can't talk, can blink.
And you see the pain on everybody's faces looking at you.
A worry and concern, I'm sure.
You know, you talked about how long it took you to sort of rehab.
What are some of the milestones or some of the breakthroughs, I guess, that you recall having where you're thinking?
Well, immediately after the surgery, I could bend my left arm.
So that was a big deal.
So I got some immediate return, you know, instantly.
I think, and so moving my arm and then the first time they set me up.
Oh, goodness, I felt like my whole body was full of just made out of Jell-O.
Because all my, because all those, once all the muscles are turned off,
even if you have a return going back to them, you have to re-educate them
and do all kinds of things to get things working again.
And so, you know, it was, it was that is being able to, you know, feed myself at first and sit up.
And then I think two months in, I actually was able to take some steps and five foot of water.
And that was a big thing.
But my right side was much weaker than my left.
I have what they call as a Brown's Accord injury, meaning my motor nerves were damaged on my right side.
But I can feel better on my right side that doesn't work as well.
And the same thing vice versa. This side works better.
It's still not a hundred percent, but it's all functional to a degree.
And I just started to wrap my head around what it was I could actually do.
Everybody kept saying, oh, you got to come back.
I was trying to figure out how to come back to life.
I wasn't even thinking about, I knew what it took to do what I did in the ring.
I had no earthly thought in my head that I'd never be able to do that again.
Right.
Our next question, people will know your reaction.
Have you seen Carson Hosevar's Darlington car?
I saw us like the unofficial fan photo from inside the garage.
Oh, so yeah, I haven't seen this. Check this out. That's hilarious.
So look, this is my favorite Dale Earnhardt paint scheme.
It's the 1981 car and it gets no love because 81 was a lost year.
Dad started the season driving for Rod Australin.
Rod would sell the team to JD Stacey,
which dad would race for four races before leaving to go to RCR.
And then at the end of the year, leaving there to go to Bud Moore for two years.
So the 81 year is forgotten, lost, unappreciated, but the car is underrated.
That yellow nose with those old vintage stripes is just, in my opinion, straight badass vintage.
It stands out.
Yeah.
And so I've ran that scheme a time or two.
You ran it at Daytona?
Yeah, we did.
And so we ran it on Martin Tricks' car at Darlington when he won the championship in the Chance 2 deal.
I was so pissed off.
I'm like, I've got Martin Tricks Jr. in the car that is my dad, my favorite scheme of my dad's, right?
We're going to Darlington with a chance to clinch.
And I'm on the pit box and I must have been practicing or something because I didn't see the car before they put it on the grid.
But he pulls out on the racetrack to do his pace laps and they've got blue tape on the valence.
And so it's a yellow nose.
And I'm like, I was, I don't know why that's hilarious to me today that I was so annoyed by that.
But I was madder in hell that Bono Manion had put blue tape on the valence of the yellow nose race car.
I wanted yellow.
Yeah.
Right?
And I was like...
They did a poster for this car too.
Do you see that?
They remade the poster for like the race.
Yeah.
And they actually like, I thought the detail was actually really good because I think they changed.
Back then it was the, the back stretch was the front stretch, right?
And they actually changed and made the poster.
There it is.
So if you look at...
Dude.
Yeah.
So that's how it looks now in the old, they have a comparison of the old one.
It's right here.
It's right here.
The poster's right on the wall.
We see the...
I like to see the grandstands.
You can't see it, but you can't see in the camera shot, but...
Yeah.
I thought the detail was really good.
That's awesome.
So this is awesome.
I love this design.
I love this paint scheme.
They had to obviously slide the 77 back a little bit, which getting that number back to the
senator doors where it belongs is awesome.
Mark Martin, shout out.
The other thing that I love is, and I said this on social media.
So some fans out there believe that throwbacks are gone, like the idea of running throwbacks
are gone.
And so I'm reading on social media, and as Bob Pocrus and some other people were talking
about how they're going to celebrate some of the past champions and legends of the sport
at Darlington.
And fans are like, well, I wish throwback weekend was still a thing.
And I don't know why they got rid of throwback weekend.
And then there's other people that are saying that throwback ran its course.
Nobody could do a throwback anymore any good.
So I just find it...
I don't know where people got the idea that anyone said you can't do throwbacks or we're
not doing throwbacks.
NASCAR basically, I don't know if their messaging wasn't good enough or whatever, but what probably
should have been said was we're shifting our focus away from the idea of focusing on the
throwback paint schemes.
We're shifting the focus actually to the physical people and legends that had drove those cars.
They have had a lot of people come into Darlington in the past, so this is not nothing new.
They celebrated the 75 greatest drivers of the sport on stage on the front straightaway
there last year or the year before.
And so they've had a lot of historic guys come to this particular race for years.
Every time I say that.
Yeah, so that's what they're going to shift the focus toward that.
No one ever, ever, ever, ever said we're no longer doing throwbacks.
And I think that was something that kind of got lost in the whole conversation.
Teams are still doing them, obviously, a lot of truck teams, Xfinity teams, Cup teams.
It's just no longer going to feel like this sort of forced campaign that you're kind of
going to if you don't, and you're criticized if you do.
Now if teams want to do them, they can do them.
I busted my ass on the ice too.
Yeah, we did fall a little bit or slide a little bit of ice.
I fell down on my left knee.
Well, you're lucky.
I am lucky.
My kneecap was not in a million bucks.
That was day three.
He f***ed as he was heading up towards where we have all the skis just hanging out on the
little rack.
So it's like, there's this patch of ice, and he slips and falls into it, and the only
person with him is Isla, and she loves it when people fall down, like loses her mind
laughing.
She's like, she's horse laughing at him as he's on the ground trying to figure out if
his kneecap's broken, and he turns around and goes, you know, I'll laugh with you.
But can you make sure I'm okay first?
He was so mad at her for laughing at him.
It was like the third or fourth day, and Isla had never skied before.
I'd only skied four or five times in my life and had been six years since I'd skied, so
I was a little nervous about it, but it came right back.
And Amy got to ski as well, but I'm really, really proud of Isla because she's learned
to ski well enough that we get to go ski together down the greens and a couple blues
and stuff.
So I'm super pumped, and it's just me and her.
And she, I'm trying to get, there's this giant storage container where we keep our
skis at night, and it's right next to the snow, I mean, it's all very convenient.
But there's this little strip of about two foot of a sheet of frozen ice.
It is like three inches of water that is solid as a rock.
And I didn't see it because it's between, I mean, it's like gravel, you know, gravelish
pavement, snow, and Isla's right there.
And I'm looking at her, watching her as I'm walking toward her to like talking to her.
Hey, I like, I'm still here.
We're coming.
And I put one foot on that ice went straight down on my knee and on and it, I thought immediately
I was like, I don't know, like I've really, this is something hurt.
I busted my kneecap.
I've done something.
It was, I went, every bit of me went down on that ice on the top of my knee and big tree
fall hard.
So I was thinking for sure I'm hurt and there were so many people walking by and I know
not one person was like, Hey, man, you either not one person, you know, if you see somebody
on the slopes out there, you usually kind of ski over and go, man, y'all good, you know,
you need some help getting up or is everybody okay?
Hell, this is on the base at the ground.
Nobody, I mean, this is eight o'clock in the morning and everybody's just kind of showing
up.
They air for all the people walk by me and I mean, I'm laying there in real pain.
It must not have been as dramatic looking as you felt like it was, you know, they're
looking at me.
Well, I guess they could see that you weren't crying.
Oh my God.
I was in pain.
It's still sore now.
Like it's bruised on his leg.
So I started laughing and I'm like, I'm not going to get mad at that.
I get up.
I'm just thankful.
Like, am I going to get to ski today?
Do I got to go get my knee looked at?
So after a few minutes of figuring out the knee was fine.
I said, I love, I said, I don't mind laughing cause that's funny, but check on
me first and then we'll laugh.
I'll laugh with you.
And she was like, all right, yeah, she's not going to do that.
She loves it when people fall down, but we had a damn good time.
We had a damn good time.
She, the girls did ski school for like two and a half days.
So we had plenty of time to like ski, especially the first day.
We went really hard the first day.
Oh my God.
First day we get on the damn chairlift and go up.
I fell off the chairlift.
He and I are on there together.
It's just the two of us riding along and I'm five three.
I'm not super tall.
So like chairlift is like an active thing for me.
Like I have to get my mind right, get ready to jump off basically.
Well, his skis tapped mine.
He didn't do anything wrong, but like his skis tapped mine as he's jumping off.
So like it threw me back in the seat a little bit.
And so my ass wasn't coming out.
And so I rode, I started going this way and I just jumped off.
They had to stop it.
I'm like, oh my God, this is how it's going to go.
This is the tone we've set for me being on skis.
It's going to be a disaster.
So let's hear now from a man who knows all too well about the consequences
of a NASCAR fight and bringing Ricky Sinai, Jr.,
who I talked to just a few moments ago.
You were the last driver to throw a punch in NASCAR and the explanation
from the drivers we've heard over and over since then is about the steep fine
you've received and you pointed out that out again this week.
So what what is the truth?
Do you think like are these fines actually preventing drivers
from having physical altercations?
I'm not sure where Daniel got his $50,000 from, but I wish that's all it was.
No, I mean, it's definitely, you know, in your mind.
You know, for me going forward, you know, definitely
would be in the back of my mind before, you know, I pulled a trigger on that again.
So and I'm sure again, I'm sure everybody else is thinking that as well.
Obviously, you heard Daniel's words, you know,
watching the whole thing just from clips that I've seen from, you know,
people posting, I'm not sure anything warranted, you know, a punch.
I'm sure they had a disagreement, but, you know, I obviously their history
goes way back being teammates and things like that.
So, you know, I, you know, I guess kudos to NASCAR,
you know, because I definitely think the fines are in the back of everybody's mind.
Well, I'm a little bit torn on it, right?
Because I think everybody wants to see, you know, you see the impact
that like your, your moment goes viral, right?
And like you see all this, we see the Kyle Busch, Joey Logano stuff
replayed nine years later all the time when we went to Vegas last week, you know,
and it's like, OK, clearly these are moments that give publicity to the sport.
But also I'm aware that drivers could get hurt.
I mean, Brad Moran says this week, hey, like there's concrete on the ground.
Some of the drivers are different size.
And so he kind of indicated that outright fighting is still found upon.
Pushing and shoving is OK.
What's your reaction to them trying to protect you guys?
I mean, I don't think it's protection in my opinion.
I think we all can handle ourselves out there.
So I mean, we drive race cars at 200 miles an hour, you know,
getting an altercation after the race is safety is definitely not a concern of mine.
You know, I guess it could be used for them to as why they, you know,
find us for it or, you know, why it's frowned upon.
So yeah, I don't know.
I didn't see his comments.
But yeah, to me, it's not it's not about safety really.
I guess it's more of, you know, what they feel like they want the sport to be.
And, you know, if they opened it up,
I don't know if you have less altercations or more, you know, because,
you know, there's there's definitely drivers that probably wouldn't go
confront somebody if they knew for sure that it was kind of wide open and game on.
You know, so I don't know which way it goes.
So if you're not allowed to fight technically or you're going to get fined for it,
you're not allowed to intentionally wreck someone.
You're not allowed to use your car as a weapon.
How are drivers in 2026 supposed to send a message
if another driver did something that is they feel is like not acceptable
and will not be tolerated?
You got me, you know, I don't know.
I mean, I think with this car, you can definitely still put people in bad spots.
You know, kind of like, I guess, you know, Daniel and Ross off the term too.
You can get close enough to them that, you know, they get tight and probably hit the fence.
You know, not near as, you know, you can't manipulate the other car near as much as you could
with the old car as far as, you know, getting them loose and getting their left
or quarter or bumper, you know, through the corner like we could back a few years ago.
But you can still put drivers in bad spots and you will continue to do that,
you know, weekend and week out if you have the opportunity.
You know, I guess, you know, it sounds like Daniel is going to, you know,
race Ross a little bit differently weekend and week out.
You know, I don't know if that's the case or how he'll do that.
But you can definitely put drivers in bad spots still.
So, you know, I guess you just continue to do that and not give an inch to them,
you know, for for weeks on end, I guess.
I don't I don't really know what else, you know, you could do.
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