Exploring the critical topic of rust proofing, this episode delves into the best practices for protecting your vehicle from corrosion. Niall shares personal anecdotes, including his experiences with various rust proofing products, emphasizing the importance of choosing the right type that doesn't harm your car's integrity. He debunks myths surrounding electronic rust busters and highlights the significance of regular maintenance. Listeners will gain valuable insights into effective rust prevention strategies and the long-term benefits of keeping their vehicles in top shape.
Rust doesn't ask permission-it destroys structural integrity, weakens your frame, eats floors, and can send a perfectly good vehicle to the crusher long before its time. Today , Motormouth tackles the big question: Should you rust-proof your vehicle, or skip it altogether?
1) You'll hear real-world proof from the shop floor:
2) Which rust-proofing products actually work
3) Which ones are a waste of money
4) What signs to look for before choosing a service
5) The traps, gimmicks, and sprays to stay far away from
6) Why structural integrity is EVERYTHING-and how to protect it
If you want your vehicle to last, stay safe, and avoid having your driver's seat land on the blacktop because the floor fell out, this episode gives you the answers you need for 2025 and beyond.
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"A 1999 Honda Civic DX, two door hatchback, five speed stick, air conditioning and everything works, all of it."
The Honda Civic DX is a version of the Honda Civic from 1999. It's known for being reliable and good on gas, making it a popular choice for many drivers.
The Honda Civic DX is a trim level of the Honda Civic, known for its reliability and efficiency. The 1999 model is part of the sixth generation of Civics, which are popular among car enthusiasts for their tunability and practicality.
"the headliner was starting to sag. I found one from the exact same car in the US."
The headliner is the fabric that covers the inside roof of a car. Sometimes it can get old and sag down, so people replace it to make the inside look nicer.
The headliner is the fabric material that covers the interior roof of a car. It can sag over time due to wear and tear, and replacing it can improve the car's interior appearance.
"...I actually have a trunk light. Yeah, so I have a 08 Nissan Rogue"
The Nissan Rogue is a small SUV that's great for families or anyone needing extra space. The 2008 version is one of the earlier models and is known for being reliable and fuel-efficient.
The Nissan Rogue is a compact crossover SUV that has been popular for its practicality and efficiency. The 2008 model is part of the first generation, known for its spacious interior and good fuel economy.
"...I just discovered it has a trunk light. And I'm like, yesterday is a matter of fact."
A trunk light is a small light that turns on when you open the trunk of your car. It helps you see what’s inside the trunk when it’s dark.
A trunk light is a light located in the trunk of a vehicle that illuminates the cargo area when the trunk is open. It helps users see inside the trunk, especially in low-light conditions.
"It's not for sale. That has almost 300,000 K on it. Our 2007 Toyota FJ Cruiser."
The Toyota FJ Cruiser is a rugged SUV designed for off-road driving. It has a unique look and is built to handle tough terrains.
The Toyota FJ Cruiser is a retro-styled SUV known for its off-road capabilities and distinctive design. It was produced from 2006 to 2014 and is popular among off-road enthusiasts.
"...That's the newest. Well, no, that's not true. The 2008 Nissan Rogue, that's almost brand new. That's almost a ..."
The Nissan 200 SX is a small sports car that was made in the 1990s and is loved by many car fans for its fun driving experience. It's known for being easy to modify, which means people can change it to make it faster or look cooler. People talk about it because it has a special place in the hearts of those who enjoy sporty cars.
The Nissan 200 SX is a compact sports car that was produced in the 1990s, known for its lightweight design and rear-wheel-drive layout. It gained popularity among car enthusiasts for its tunability and performance potential, making it a notable vehicle in the tuning community. Discussions around the 200 SX often revolve around its classic status and the nostalgia it evokes among fans of Japanese sports cars.
"The 08 Nissan Rogue has to have rust proofing application, a full rust proofing application now that all the repairs and maintenance are done."
Rust proofing is a treatment that helps protect cars from rust. It's important for keeping the car in good shape, especially if it’s exposed to wet or salty conditions.
Rust proofing is a process that involves applying a protective coating to a vehicle to prevent rust and corrosion. This is especially important in regions with harsh winters or where roads are salted.
"It has to be safety inspected. And it's in line to get that done."
A safety inspection is a check-up for cars to make sure they are safe to drive. It looks at important parts like brakes and lights to ensure everything works properly.
A safety inspection is a thorough examination of a vehicle to ensure it meets safety standards. This process checks various components like brakes, lights, and tires to ensure the vehicle is safe to drive.
"...you want it to creep into every nook in cranny your vehicle has because there's a lot of areas on automobiles where that's where the rusties start..."
Creep means how well a product can move into small spaces. For rust proofing, it's important that the treatment can get into all the tiny areas of your car to stop rust from forming.
In the context of rust proofing, 'creep' refers to the ability of a rust proofing product to flow and penetrate into tight spaces and crevices of a vehicle. This is important for effective rust protection.
"...eats body caulking, seam sealer, door seals, and also transmission bushings, sway bar bushings, motor mounts, because there's rubber on them."
Transmission bushings are parts that help hold the transmission in place and reduce noise and vibrations. They make sure everything runs smoothly in your car's transmission system.
Transmission bushings are components that help support and isolate the transmission from the vehicle's chassis. They play a crucial role in reducing vibrations and ensuring smooth operation of the transmission system.
"...sway bar bushings, motor mounts, because there's rubber on them. And petroleum eats the rubber and rots it out."
Sway bar bushings are parts that connect a bar in your car that helps it stay stable while turning. They help reduce how much the car leans when you go around corners.
Sway bar bushings are rubber or polyurethane components that connect the sway bar to the vehicle's chassis. They help reduce body roll during cornering and improve handling stability.
"...motor mounts, because there's rubber on them. And petroleum eats the rubber and rots it out."
Motor mounts are parts that hold the engine in place in your car. They help keep everything steady and reduce noise and vibrations that you feel inside the car.
Motor mounts are components that secure the engine to the vehicle's frame and absorb vibrations. They are crucial for maintaining engine alignment and reducing noise inside the cabin.
"...the rubberized rust proofing product, or undercoating, we use to call it, if there's any moisture on the metal and you spray the rubberized undercoating on it, it seals the moisture in like a skin, like a barrier. So what happens..."
Rubberized undercoating is a type of spray that protects the bottom of cars from rust. It's important to apply it only when the metal is dry, or it can cause more damage by trapping water underneath.
Rubberized undercoating is a protective coating applied to the underside of vehicles to prevent rust and corrosion. It creates a barrier that can seal out moisture, but if applied over wet surfaces, it can trap moisture and lead to rust problems.
"...and a gentleman that would come into our shop, the Hamilton Mountain, and he had a Ford Aerostar..."
The Ford Aerostar is a type of minivan made by Ford. It was popular in the late 1980s and 1990s for its roomy space, making it great for families.
The Ford Aerostar is a minivan that was produced by Ford from 1986 to 1997. It is known for its spacious interior and versatility, making it a popular choice for families during its production run.
"...the floor of the van, structural integrity was compromised on that Aerostar van front to back..."
Structural integrity means how strong and safe the car's body is. If it's damaged, it can be dangerous to drive.
Structural integrity refers to the ability of a vehicle's body to withstand intended loads without failure. Compromised structural integrity can lead to safety issues and reduced performance.
"...I took some pictures of a Dodge Caravan in Cheek DeWog in New York on one of my clients at the time in their shop. They were changing the engine cradle..."
The Dodge Caravan is a type of minivan that many families use. It's designed to carry people and their belongings comfortably, making it great for road trips or daily use.
The Dodge Caravan is a minivan that has been popular for its spacious interior and family-friendly features. It has been in production since 1984 and is known for its versatility and practicality.
"...They were changing the engine cradle. It was completely rotted out. The motor and transmission were falling out of the van..."
The engine cradle is like a frame that holds the engine in place in a car. If it's damaged or rusted, it can cause serious problems with how the car runs.
The engine cradle is a structural component that supports the engine and transmission in a vehicle. It is crucial for maintaining proper alignment and stability of the drivetrain.
"...one of those rust busters on it, the electronic ones..."
Electronic rust busters are gadgets that help stop rust from forming on metal parts of cars or ships. They send out electrical signals to keep rust away.
Electronic rust busters are devices that use electrical currents to prevent rust and corrosion on metal surfaces. They work by creating a protective electrical field around the metal, reducing the likelihood of rust formation.
"...some pictures on our website of a 2009 Hyundai Accent that had one of those rust busters on it..."
The Hyundai Accent is a small, affordable car that is good on gas. The 2009 version is one of the older models, and it's known for being economical and easy to drive.
The Hyundai Accent is a subcompact car known for its affordability and fuel efficiency. The 2009 model features a simple design and practical features, making it a popular choice for budget-conscious buyers.
"...the electrodes or the, what they call anodes, were fastened to the strut towers under the hood..."
Anodes are special pieces used to stop metal from rusting. They get worn out instead of the metal they are protecting, helping to keep things like cars and ships safe from rust.
Anodes are components used in cathodic protection systems to prevent corrosion on metal surfaces. They work by sacrificing themselves to protect the metal structure from rusting.
"...the strut towers under the hood, the strut towers were rusting..."
Strut towers are parts of a car's structure that help support the suspension. They are important for keeping the car stable and handling well on the road.
Strut towers are structural components in a vehicle's chassis that house the upper mounts of the suspension struts. They play a crucial role in maintaining the integrity of the vehicle's suspension system.
"...the fella in the FNI department wanted me to push those at the service department..."
The FNI department at a car dealership helps people with money matters when buying a car, like loans and insurance. They make sure buyers understand their payment options.
The FNI department, or Finance and Insurance department, at a car dealership is responsible for handling the financial aspects of vehicle sales, including financing options and insurance products for buyers.
"...the concept works if you're an ocean liner. That's what they use to slow down the rusties, but it's a different system with the same concept. It doesn't work on cars..."
Rust prevention is about keeping metal parts from getting rusty. There are different ways to do this, but not all methods work well, especially for cars.
Rust prevention refers to methods and technologies used to protect metal surfaces from corrosion, especially in vehicles. While some techniques are effective, others, like certain electronic devices, may not deliver the promised results.
"You know, they don't want you keeping your vehicles long term. They don't. Car manufacturers want you in a new car at if at all possible, every three to five years maximum."
New car incentives are discounts or special offers that car companies give to help sell their new cars. They might lower the price or offer better financing options to make it easier for you to buy a new vehicle.
New car incentives are promotions offered by manufacturers to encourage customers to purchase new vehicles. These can include cash rebates, low-interest financing, or lease deals that make buying a new car more appealing.
"So this is your way of coming against that like I do and you can keep your vehicle as long as you want. Even if it gets to a point where you know what the motors getting tired, transmissions getting tired..."
Deferred maintenance means putting off repairs or services that your car needs. If you wait too long to fix things, it can lead to bigger problems later on.
Deferred maintenance refers to the practice of postponing necessary maintenance on a vehicle, often due to cost or time constraints. This can lead to more significant issues down the line if not addressed promptly.
"...you only get 60,000 kilometers warranty or whatever occurs first the time or the mileage that's that's lifetime warranty. You have to know and understand that lifetime warranty is the day or the mileage that voids it..."
A lifetime warranty sounds like it lasts forever, but it usually has limits like how many years or how many miles you can drive before it stops being valid. So, it's important to know those limits.
A lifetime warranty typically covers a product for the duration of its useful life, but in automotive terms, it often has specific limits such as time or mileage. This means that if you reach the mileage limit or the time limit first, the warranty is voided.
"...you're far better to buy a pre-owned vehicle..."
A pre-owned vehicle is just a fancy way of saying a used car. It's usually cheaper than a new one and can still be in great condition.
A pre-owned vehicle is a car that has had previous owners, often referred to as a used car. Buying pre-owned can be more economical than purchasing a new vehicle.
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matter of fact. I'm going, wow, how cool is that? Yeah, it's right on the hatch so
that when the lid is up, it's actually illuminating right where you're working.
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I always have booster cables on board for two reasons. One, if I do something crazy
and leave something turned on, I'm usually pretty good at making sure that I shut down
the vehicle just like I would if I was landing an airplane, you're on the runway,
you've applied the brakes and the flaps, you come to a stop, now you're turning,
you're going into a terminal. And once you get there, if you watch pilots, and I'm very intrigued
by watching pilots and flying aircraft that, you know, planes, trains and automobiles,
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Is I like watching the pilots, everything, they're in sequence, they're shutting the plane down,
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on. And I'm an interior light. I don't know what, I think it's, I mean, centric.
Even if it's on a timer, I still wait to watch that it goes out. It's just me. That's just,
am I the only one that does that? Yeah, I think some people go, what are you doing,
motor off? You coming in? I'm just checking the rotary and the end girder thingy right now.
And I'm just watching to see if the interior light goes out, because that's caught me a couple
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100% winter related. They're just tech tips. So I'll share some of those with you as well. So
let's jump into the today's topic, which I promised the other day, the other day being Friday, to
talk about rust proofing. And it is one of each and should be one of your if you didn't listen
to Friday's topic, which was automotive automotive New Year plan, the plan to help you to keep your
vehicle rolling, regardless of mileage, but having a game plan that you follow exactly like I do.
And that's how I explained in Friday's program. A 1999 Honda Civic DX, two door hatchback, five
stick, five speed stick, air conditioning and everything works, all of it. And it's not rotted
out. How about that? It's still once when it's washed and it's clean, it's red. I call it the
rocket. And it looks amazing. In this past summer, I pulled all the interior out the headliner was
starting to sag. I found one from the exact same car in the US. It was exact identical. It was red,
same gray interior, two door hatchback, and I scarfed a whole pile of parts. I got a perfect
headliner out of that car. So this past summer, I put that in and cleaned the whole car out and
I took it to a car show. And the young fellas, they were all over it. You're like, you want to sell
this? No. How am I going to get home? Yeah, I can't do that. Give me a ride? No. Well, then I'm not
selling it. There you go. It's not for sale. That has almost 300,000 K on it. Our 2007 Toyota FJ
Cruiser. 2007. That's the newest. Well, no, that's not true. The 2008 Nissan Rogue, that's almost
brand new. That's almost a new release when it comes to, you know, videos. Almost a new release.
The 07 has, we're three quarters of the weight of 400,000 kilometers. And the body's not rotted out.
The 99 Honda Civic TX is not rotted out. The 08 Nissan Rogue has to have rust proofing application,
a full rust proofing application now that all the repairs and maintenance are done.
It's got some dry areas underneath. It has been done with something at some point in its life,
because there are holes, plug holes, where product has been installed. But there's a lot of dry areas
underneath because the vehicle sat for about a year, not being used. It was just parked. So that's
the next, two things have to happen. It has to be safety inspected. And it's in line to get that done.
The shops are just overwhelmed right now. And still installing winter tire packages.
I think that's fabulous. But just the same, it needs two things, safety inspection and a
full application of rust proofing. So let's jump into that. Because that is the number one
maintenance. If you do that every year, if you don't do it every year, at least do it every 18
months. That's my suggestion. And it works like a charm. That's a full application. Well, how do
you figure out what is a good product and what is it? We're going to break that down and talk about
including the electronic rust busters. Yeah, not a good idea. But I'm going to break that out for
you so that you get a clear understanding that yeah, it's snake oil. It really is. The science
is sort of there, but not for cars, for ships. The concept comes from ships, but it doesn't
work for cars. So let's jump into, first of all, let's cover the reasons why you should deeply
consider annually rust proofing your vehicle. If you're a takeout window guru or groupie,
that's your thing every single day. I am not. If it were for, you know, places like Timmy's
in all of those places with takeout windows McDonald's. I really like McDonald's coffee.
You know, I cannot drink Timmy's coffee. There's something in it doesn't work for my system.
I don't know what it is, but it doesn't work for me. I mean, if I'm if I'm very desperate
for a cup of Joe, and there's nothing around, I would do a small and water it back. But there's
something in it just doesn't work for me. But if it were for the takeout windows to
selling coffee every day, counting on me to to boost their profit margin, not going to happen.
I take my thermos with me on the road. I make my own gourmet coffee and it costs me like 15 cents
a cup all in. I don't need any sweetener, just cream, real cream. So I say that to say this,
take the cost of one cup of coffee, one every week, and put that into a jar. And you'll have
more than enough money to cover paying for rust proofing application, not a full application of
partial. Now, if you want the full application, which I call that the bloop factor, they laugh at
me when I take a vehicle in I did just a couple of weeks ago, and say just tie the rope on the back
of it and just bloop that puppy right in there, you know, like a teabag in the water bloop. Yeah,
the reason being is you want a rust proofing product that's going to protect every nook
in cranny of your vehicle, not just some areas you want it to creep into every nook in cranny your
vehicle has because there's a lot of areas on automobiles where that's where the rusties start
because you can't access those areas. So if you're not using a product that creeps,
it's only going to go where the person who's applying the product sprays it. So if he goes
over here, that's where it stays. Over here, that's where it stays. Those products, no good. So
whether it's rubberized, or it's oil based, no oil based, not good. If it's a petroleum based
rust proofing that eats body caulking, seam sealer, door seals, and also transmission bushings,
sway bar bushings, motor mounts, because there's rubber on them. And petroleum eats the rubber
and rots it out. So then you're when you're spraying it to protect it from the rusties,
you're also creating damage at the same time. So those products petroleum based or have wax in it,
no good. If it's a product that sprays on and drips off, here's my here's my key tech tip for you.
If it drips, it's junk. Okay, that's simple. If it's rubberized,
rust proofing, it's junk. If it has wax in it to hold it there. And then it does ooze off. Because
it was a product way back in the 90s I used to use. I think it was called lubricate or something
like that at beeswax in it, it would glob out my doors and I ruined several pairs of really nice
slacks. No good junk. If it is, like I said, petroleum based wax, any kind of oil, any kind
of petroleum whatsoever. If it's fish oil, no good. If it drips, it's no good. If it's rubberized,
here's what happens with the rubberized stuff. So fellas, listen to me here. If you're wanting to
put a product underneath on, say, a special project car that doesn't come out in the winter,
you got to make sure that the body metal, there's no moisture anywhere.
Because the rubberized rust proofing product, or undercoating, we use to call it, if there's any
moisture on the metal and you spray the rubberized undercoating on it, it seals the moisture in
like a skin, like a barrier. So what happens, and we saw this, I'll never forget,
and a gentleman that would come into our shop, the Hamilton Mountain, and he had a Ford Aerostar
van. From the ground up from the outside, the van was mitt, and I mean it was clean, clean, clean,
inside and out, and he took care of all the mechanicals. And the one day I got it up on the
hoist because he saw stuff falling off, he had it rubberized undercoated. There were holes
in behind the rust proofing, the size of my fist, the size of a 12 inch baseball.
Because moisture was trapped behind the rubberized barrier, the undercoating, and ate the body out
from underneath the vehicle. The guy was so upset, he was standing right there,
and it was falling off in sheets and in behind there, the floor of the van, structural integrity
was compromised on that Aerostar van front to back. It was sad because the rest of the van was
mitt, inside and out and mechanical. Now there's holes everywhere underneath behind the rust proofing.
You poke just lightly and materials falling off and great big chunks of rust. And in behind it,
a hole. Now let's jump into, so keep in mind, what you want from a rust proofing product
are a few things, and I'm going to share them with you right now. It does not drip.
It is not petroleum based. It creeps. So 40 degrees and above, the product creeps along
your vehicle because of the electronic theory. Your vehicle is negatively charged, the product
is positively charged, positive electrons chase a negative electrons, right? Unlike charges attract,
like charges repel. So this is how the product works. A good product works. It chases the negative
electrons. Come on, sweetie. Give me some sugar, honey. And it chases it all around the car,
into every nook and cranny that we can't get into. So if you spray the product here, it ends up over
there. But I didn't spray it there. How did it get there? It creeps. That's what you want. Number two,
it does not drip. Number three, it neutralizes the acids from road salt and the wickedly corrosive
salt brine. So when the product, if the product is already on and it's still creeping and it finds
some acids from road salt, it neutralizes it so it doesn't eat the body metal.
Chaching, that's money in your pocket. So I've covered it all. It doesn't harm electronics,
the product, it doesn't harm door seals, weather stripping, any kind of rubber, transmission mounts,
engine mounts, sway bar pushings. It doesn't damage any of that. And will not, will not,
void your factory warranty. And I've heard some stories where people are told, oh, no, never,
Russ, proof it. It voids your factory warranty. No, it does not with the product that I use.
And I'm not going to endorse it here on the radio because they don't pay for the show.
It's not their show. It's not their time. But I'll tell you how you can connect. I've made it simple
for you so that you can get to using the same product I'm using. Because as far as I can see
out there, it's the best product I've ever seen. And I've been using it 12 years now. I used another
product before that goes on and it drips. It's part of its base is fish oil. No good. So all those
products, rust proofing products, if it drips, it's junk. Again, if it has petroleum base in it,
it's junk. If it has wax in it, it's junk. If it's rubberized, it's junk. It has to be a neutral
product that dispels water. That's the other thing that you want in a rust proofing product.
And the one I use does that. It pushes moisture out of the body metal. It doesn't hide it
and mask it. It pushes it out. So if moisture is being pushed out, less chance of rust.
Absolutely. And the product does work. I buy it in aerosol cans. I have it in the shop. In fact,
I just used it yesterday to lubricate some hinges on that 08 Nissan road because they were a little
tight. The rear hatch wasn't lifting up with the shocks by itself, sprayed them up, worked it in.
Now you unlock the hatch. The gas charts support struts lift it right up. So the product works.
And it will creep along now. I've sprayed there. So now let's talk about these electronic
rust busters. We shot a video. In fact, it is on our website. If you go to carconnectionbusinessnetwork.com,
ccbusnet.com, it is under the category of tech tips.
There's, they were, it wasn't a video. It was actually a series of photos with explanation.
And there's showing some, I took some pictures of a Dodge Caravan in Cheek DeWog in New York on one
of my clients at the time in their shop. They were changing the engine cradle. It was completely
rotted out. The motor and transmission were falling out of the van. It was incredible. So I took some
pictures. So if you go to our website, you click on tech tips, you'll find it. You'll find it. And
we will do a video at some point, just not yet, not right now. So let's talk about these electronic
rust busters. Number one, they're going to cost you about a thousand bucks if you get it at a dealer.
Right? That's their rust proofing. There's also some pictures on our website of a 2009 Hyundai
Accent that had one of those rust busters on it, the electronic ones. And right where the electrodes
or the, what they call anodes, were fastened to the strut towers under the hood, the strut towers
were rusting. So the lady asked me to take a look at it. And I said, she goes, I go, why did you buy
one of those? Well, when I went to buy the car new, the fella that came with me said, oh, you got to
have that. Yeah, I said, well, I'd be packaging that up and saying, you know, you owe me a thousand
bucks jump. Thanks for coming with me. But it's a useless piece of junk. Yeah. On ships, they use
those electronic rust busters in a big way. So there is a voltage signal being sent through the
entire ship all the time to prevent rust particles from developing. That's where they got the concept
from. It works on ships because it's a whole new ballgame for that. On the car, the rust buster
is only working when the car is running, not when it's turned off or vice versa. One or the other,
I can't remember now. It might be, is it when it's running? No, true, opposite. When you shut the
vehicle off, the rust buster is powered up, then it's sending a milliamp voltage signal through
your entire vehicle. So when the vehicle's not running, it's not protected. It is protected.
When it's running, it's not. I got I'll get this right here in a minute. So when it's car is off,
rust buster is apparently working. When the car is on, it's not working. So the product that I
have applied to my vehicle works, whether I'm sleeping, whether the car is parked on the north
side of the house or the south side, whether it's the car is going down the road, or whether it's
turned off, or whether it's sitting for several weeks before it's used again, the rust product
that I have applied to my vehicles is constantly working. 365, 24 hours a day, seven days a week.
Rust buster, no. Piece of junk. Good money maker for somebody. And what I did for this
particular lady was I took it to the selling dealer, we're too bought it brand new, and had them
open the hood and said, why is there rust here if that thing's working? Well, that shouldn't be
happening. I go, well, well, it is. What are you going to do about it? So this lady feels she got
hosed, and I showed him my mechanics licenses, and I go, yeah, the gig is up. I said I worked
for a corporate car manufacturing corporation, and I was sent to a dealer where they the fella
in the FNI department wanted me to push those at the service department, the rust electronic
rust buster. And I said, I love you, but I cannot sell something and promote something to people
when I know it doesn't work. I said, I know you have to make money, and profitability is not a
dirty word if it's come by honestly, but that would be dishonest of me to help you and push
these in the service department so that you can make money. Well, you know, it's for the dealer's
behalf, I go, it's dishonest, and I won't do it. I got myself into a pretty deep hole and I just said,
no, I wouldn't sell it to you, your family, or anybody because that would be dishonest. It does
not work. Doesn't work. The concept works if you're an ocean liner. That's what they use to slow
down the rusties, but it's a different system with the same concept. It doesn't work on cars. So I'm
probably going to get some hate mail, but I don't care. Show me the science that it works.
I saw that it didn't and I have pictures to prove it. And I still have that electronic rust buster.
We call it the rust buster 2000. And you can see that on our website at carconnectionbusinessnetwork.com.
ccbusnet.us isn't samnet.com. Click on the motor mouth tips is there. I can't remember the button,
but you'll find it. And then have a look. And there is sort of a likeness of me many years ago.
There's some stuff that's still posted there. And I've left it there on purpose as a reminder of
when we asked when I many years ago attempted to shoot some YouTube videos and I wish I had
stayed with it because today it would have made things all we would have been well on our way
and able to to help people and fix your cars for free. Yeah, the widows and orphans and single moms
and seniors and those who are just struggling to keep the car going. So let's stay on track with
the rust proofing as I wrap it up here. I'm going to bring it home. So if you go to our website,
carconnectionbusinessnetwork.com ccbusnet.us isn't samnet.com. You will see a logo for a corrosion
product. And I'm going to call it CF. Okay.
Click on it. You will open the profile page and then you can click through visit the product,
see it applied and make a judgment for yourself. That's the product I've been using for the last
12 years and we have nothing rusting out. No, nothing rusting out. Even if you have some
rusties on your vehicle, if it's not heavy scabby rust, the product will get right through there
and it will protect the body metal. I've seen it and that's why with the aerosol cans, if I see a
little spot somewhere that something's breaking out, I'll spray it with the aerosol can of the
product and it shuts it right down. It slows the rusties down to a snake to a snail's pace
and we'll keep it at bay till you can get that area fixed up. So just so you know,
it works. It works very, very well and no, I'm not and I'm not paid by them whatsoever. They don't
support the podcast. They don't support the YouTube channel. It's the only product I know out there
for a simple reason. I use it myself and it works exactly the way they say and tell you it works
and you need to do it at least once a year minimum or every 18 months. So either or. I just make it
as a habit because the first and foremost thing that you need to protect on any vehicle to ride
that thing off into many sunsets and as many kilometers as you can put on it is you've got
to protect the structural integrity. It's a maintenance. I call it an annual sport. You've
got to keep the structure solid and everything else is replaceable. It's everything else that's
broken is replaceable or serviceable. But once the structural integrity is gone, it's over and
you know, as they say, the fat lady is singing. And when that happens, it's done. It's going to
the crusher when it doesn't have to. So I'd like you to think hard on that because it doesn't void
this product I'm talking about doesn't void any factory warranty whatsoever. And if they say it
does tell them to put it in writing. And I'll tell you right now they won't because it's just a load
of baloney. You know, they don't want you keeping your vehicles long term. They don't. Car manufacturers
want you in a new car at if at all possible, every three to five years maximum.
That's why they don't push service as much as they used to my tech buddies and I
have been talking about that for the last 1015 years we're seeing services service being kind
of reduced to next to nothing at a dealership level because they want you out of it and into another
one as quick and as soon as possible. It's that simple. So this is your way of coming against
that like I do and you can keep your vehicle as long as you want. Even if it gets to a point where
you know what the motors getting tired, transmissions getting tired, the bodies in mint
condition top bottom and sideways. It's far cheaper put another transmission in
or another engine than to go to the car lot and spend 60 some odd thousand dollars for a vehicle.
It's crazy. It's a touch of madness. And then you only get 60,000 kilometers warranty
or whatever occurs first the time or the mileage that's that's lifetime warranty. You have to
know and understand that lifetime warranty is the day or the mileage that voids it. So for example
if it's three years 60,000 kilometers and in two years you hit 60k that's your lifetime warranty is
over. That's their back door. Lifetime doesn't mean what we think it is a lifetime sentence
in jail is not lifetime on a car. It's the month or the mileage whatever you hit first. So it's up
to us to be a prosumer not a consumer. A professional consumer when it comes to your automobile. So
keep the structural integrity of your vehicle maintained. You can keep that sucker as long
as you want. And that's what I do. I'm not I'm not an advocate for paying making car payments
and paying interest. You know what you're far better to buy a pre-owned vehicle
that's got lower mileage and then the day you own it start seriously taking care of it from the day
one and watch what happens because when you turn that key and you're not paying interest and you're
not in partnership with the bank it is a great feeling. And our certified financial planning
professionals if you were to sit down with them they'll both tell you Tony Miele and Larry Teechal
best car in the driveway especially right now in today's economy is the one that's paid for.
Treat it with utmost respect and you know what you're going to save money. That's right sweetheart
you'll be able to get another pair of shoes if you have a shoe collection. Yeah you'll save
enough money to go you know what I really like those and you'll be able to buy them.
So that wraps us up on rust proofing if you have any questions whatsoever and I will work diligently
to put together a rust prevention video for our YouTube channel. I got to create a couple of test
pieces to show you and also some of the products that I tell you that don't work. I can't show you
what they are name wise but I'll be able to use the product and demonstrate and show you what I'm
talking about and you'll be blown away. When I talk about a product that creeps you'll be absolutely
blown away by what I show you the product that I use can do because I won't think of you I'm not
thinking of using anything else because I know it works. So till next time thank you for supporting
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