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Hello and welcome to this car pod I'm Flippo and there's a lot to discuss starting with
Bugatti the very coolest car ever this is so cool so this is the Bugatti FKP homage
which stands for Ferdinand Carl Pieck one of our favorite automotive dynasties he is
an absolute killer a legend a legend absolute legend in the automotive business but this
car pays homage to the Veyron which has been which came out 20 years ago which is over
20 years ago which is hard to believe but this is a one-off based on the Chiron but
it's supposed to look like a Veyron and they're only building one of these and it has some
annoying details that you would hate like it has like an AP Royal Oak clock on the dash
and stuff like that but the big news is that it really looks like a Veyron down to the
wheels like the original wheels we love so much this is the coolest thing this is so
cool have you seen this yeah of course they you know every every we all agree that the
Chiron is better but the Veyron is cooler yeah absolutely boom yeah problem solved that
is so cool I saw the picture of this last week after we did our pod and I thought it
was just the absolute coolest thing I've ever seen in my life I couldn't agree with you
more it is such a neat idea to take the Veyron which was a compromised car in a lot of ways
it's technically it's very expensive to own very difficult to own and now starting to
get dated and to modernize it and update it with all these with the Chiron improvements
but to like keep the look it's like all those BS companies that are making retro versions
of like the Diablo and the 550 and the 355 and all these things except Bugatti did it
and well right exactly it is weird to think the Veyron is now a throwback car yeah but
it is I mean it's been up for a long time but I agree I do wish that it were the blue
the blue and black color that's my favorite on the Veyron but nonetheless like they really
went they explained they went into a lot of detail to make sure everything was as close
as they could get it but just looked a little bit more modern like the the front grill is
different but they were really careful about that and they paid a lot of attention to their
heritage which I respect I'm actually surprised they were able to get this emolligated for
road use I'd be a little curious to know the story obviously this car was commissioned by
the one person who has it and I'm wondering what their country's roles are in the US this
car would have to be re-certified because it's like a completely different design it's not
just a slightly different body panels I mean it's like a totally different look you have
different angles and different dimensions and materials are different and I'm really really
surprised that this was able to just sort of happen I am not sure I don't I don't believe it was
for a US customer they said that this cost 10 million euros so I suspect that it's probably
staying well yeah and I think if you look at the picture of his because that's the one that's
not a US car because it doesn't have the orange marker DOT markers that's right I love this car
and I love Ferdinand Pieck and right up until this point the only other car to pay tribute to
Ferdinand Pieck in its name was the Lamborghini Scion which was technically called the Lamborghini
Scion FKP 37 which was a reference to his initials and his birth year right it just rolls off the
tongue needless to say no one knows that's what that car is called but that was technically its
full name this yes very cool execution on that car very cool execution on this one this one better
this is I think one of the coolest cars in existence and if it only costs 10 million euro
that's crazy to me like she owns regularly sell for 4 million euro this car is obviously going
to be a tremendously special collectible one day yeah this car is a reason to get rich
hmm I sure they weren't a lot of things out there that are reasons that you really want to be
this car is one of them that's like people think there's a lot oh I don't want to fly
pride all that stuff is either overblown or dangerous or bad or stupid or it comes with
headaches but this car this is the thing having a new Bugatti that looks like an old
that's the reason to get a slightly a slightly not type 37 just 20 years ago I just think it's
so cool I also love these bespoke cars like Ferrari's doing this now too and obviously lamb
Bugatti's done it and Lambo's done it a little bit doing these like one-off things for like
people who are just willing to pay for them that's like what what we what we are so into
that the salt and the brunei did back in the day and these companies are still like letting it
happen within reason and it's kind of cool to see it okay you got 10 million dollars yeah 10 you
could buy one yeah I would you buy that over anything else for 10 million well I only have
10 million to spend on one car is this one of those stupid I live in Singapore in my garage
only one space but the time you get to this you've owned all that other yeah this guy ate
other cars yeah exactly he has this one to be clear and apparently the watch that's in it is like
he the owner collaborated with by the way which is a very rich guy I think I don't even think that
the watch is silly even though I hate that you don't know because like this is all about like
bespoke one-offness like that it should have like really cool details to be clear for everybody
it's a royal it's a royal oak tourbillon a royal oak which is a very David Lee hook me up with one
of those yes probably all right give us our next news story oh all right good the new sevens
apparently BMW dealers are starting to really request and push BMW corporate for an x9 so
BMW's lineup has x1, x2, x3, x4, x5, x6, x7 but then it stops there's nothing bigger than x7
let me ask you this why aren't they pushing for an x8 you know they might because the x8 would be too
koopy because historically the the even number is the coop version of the odd number the x2 isn't
koopy it is koopy compared to the x1 no yes that's their naming structure the evens are
i know that but the x2 is not have you seen it they look like a have you seen it pull up an x2
please i'm sorry can we have to get this right for our listeners the x2 isn't it doesn't have a
sloped roof it just has the two bmw logos on the outside i'm not wrong about this is that not a
sloped roof how would you describe that that's the new box yes what do you think we're talking about
i'm trying to say original i'm sorry do you think that we're not talking about the new car
we're off the rails the point is they want to do an x a larger they want to like an escalate
competitor if you look at the if you look at the dimensionally the x7 is smaller than other cars in
its segment yep as a three row however it's also been out for six years i would argue just let them
redesign it we don't necessarily need a lot i mean what are we talking about like a suburban they
they want like an escalator tahoe size vehicle which is 10 inches longer than an x7 well they
so they failed with the the xm going for a gwagon competitor so now they want to choose an escalate
competitor that's their target i mean i'm not surprised that american bmw dealers want something
that competes with that kind of top tier it doesn't make sense for me gls is only two inches longer
than an x7 sure but an escalates eight inches longer than that well what's a tahoe tahoe
tahoe is eight inches longer than an x7 great they don't want a gls competitor they want a tahoe
they would have a gls competitor in the x7 they want something even bigger because they need to
sell cars in texas i just it seems odd to me why not just make the x7 a little bit bigger and
solve both i think they would be okay with that too give it a bad time they just want more suv's
and they want more larger suv's to keep the x7 is small it came out at a time when the three row
segment was kind of birthing it's q7 size even yeah it really was but now things are bigger in
general let's give us another a larger xi i'm not surprised the dealers wanted i hear bad things
about the third row in the x7 as far as usability i will also say there was news this week that
volvo is considering a vehicle larger than the xc 90 and so i think there is a little bit of a push
to go larger the xc 91 xc 110 i guess it's better there aren't odd i guess 60 is odd xc 100 no but
but the odds have historically been my take on bmw's naming structure is correct it's generally
right but the original it's generally right it is at this moment you know you know where the
yeah but you admit the original x2 looked normal is there a new x4 uh i think so i think they did
do a new x4 although that car has not been successful you know why they're not calling it x8
because any badge that's ever worn in eight and bmw's history has not been commercially successful
what about the new eight series the latest eight series the one called a huge commercial success
no it isn't it already failed yeah um anyway the point is love v31 everybody wants big vehicles
everybody wants suv the more suv's the merrier yep factually accurate that's just the truth
everybody's upset about this cannon's upset about this all the bmw people bmw has left behind
well look what buyers have left you behind well yeah i don't care i tuned out a long time ago i'm
not buying new ones i want to keep the old ones around you know it continues to hit me as i think
about this when when my mom bought an azuzu rodeo off the showroom floor from jerry roth azuzu
in aurora colorado in 1992 brag about it yeah with a stick shift and steel wheels
brag worthy that car didn't have intermittent wipers yeah you had to there was there was an
individual like one wipe and then there was on and off and so you had to just turn off the level
that's what we could afford anyway the point is um
back in that era making buying an suv were acquired real compromise yeah and now it just
doesn't and so like the reason that all these people have been left behind with their sedans
is like you can get you can sit up higher and still have the same driving dynamics the same
acceleration the same nvh it didn't used to be that way with suv's and so the you know what your
new car is x5 m yep yeah nah let's stick with my old one there is there was a cannon out there
who's seven right now who the x5 m is going to be his e39 m5 or you can just have a regular x5
because it has the best bmw in line six the b58 yeah b58 i got behind a rear wheel drive one
today did you and that's a that's drive 40 that's drive 40 yeah i understand things like things have
changed and the younger demographics will laud these cars that are out now i'm just sticking
with my e39 i'm happy with that well the rest of the world wants their sport utes in fact right here
on behind me oh it's gone is an x5 okay next news story please uh all right oh volvo must be
believe volvo v 60 volvo had said that they're done they're done with wagons but in a series of
interviews the chief strategy and product officer michael fleiss uh said that yes he thinks that
there's a market segment in the u.s for wagons and i quote even interestingly china is coming up
with wagons it's hot right now so people are really liking wagons that is a direct quote
so there's a chance of volvo wagons will continue and we'd all be thrilled wagons are hot dude i was
the last holdout i have never not had a wagon i was the last holdout i currently own a wagon i thought
it was he had come down to a trickle it was down here it was at the very and i got one of the last
ones in existence i got the outback here you know the outback is now taller than a rav four
taller in height than a rav four that's not a weather roof rills that's not a wagon anymore i
didn't get into the specifics because i think the point is made the outback is eight inches taller
than my e450 the wagon and your e450 is like three inches taller than my actual station wagon the
wagon is dead yeah but it might be back so who's still doing wagons out he's got the a6 and the
and other markets there are other manufacturers not many because all of the main european manufacturers
have a wagon i know but every time i go to europe which is every two years or so it's suv since
sad it looks like america it's really sad smaller suv though no x smaller suv's no x9's you never
see x7 like an xc90 is a huge luxury vehicle in europe as a kid when the q7 came out first on q7
it looked so incredibly giant yeah you would see some 20 you know he tries to play this off he
claims he moved to the united states in like 2000 but now he's over here when the q7 came out
when i was a boy i would go back 2007 yes i would still go back to he's tries to play both sides
of this whole thing is he italian is he american we don't know he's an enigma uh yes okay fine
thrilled to have volvo wagons they're all gonna be electric i mean yeah yeah but i'm thrilled to
have volvo wagons they make nice looking cars like i'm wagons are nice i'm hopeful i've never
did this day had a volvo station wagon have you no sadly do you ever have one who of course
obviously who in who in who in your circle of friends when you were a kid had a volvo wagon
we had one my buddy bret shea his mom had one it wasn't common in the midwest it was odyssey's were
really popular at that time that was like yeah you you're too you're too young like it was
you're a little post volvo wagon nattison wisconsin wagon central gotta have a couple friends of the
v 70s had a couple legitimately two different friends with stick legacy wagons the 09 generation
oh wow yeah uh when i was there were wagons when i was like 20 my best friend joe in denver had a
v 70 cross country yeah and we took that to car week one time really i was driving around a car
week in a v 70 cross country 2000 collect the box well what was the top white with black on the
bottom oh black but it wasn't this wasn't the next gen this was like a 99 this is like the first boxy
one you said v 70 xc of course i know yeah although the first two years of the then next
generation car was also called v 70 xc they didn't come out with xc 70 for like two or three
model years after the 2001 model came out that's something for you to look up uh we're deep into
volvo wagons now i'm right about this you can look on our side i bet we sold a bunch we haven't
sold that that's a shame all right let's keep going what's our next news story oh yes burtona so
for those of you unfamiliar bro tony bro tony was a design house from well yeah it still is then
still is they got bankrupt a few times they're around exactly like all good italian design houses
they've come bankrupt a couple times kind of but they've recently released this they're calling this
their neo retro rebirth of the auto bianchi a 112 runabout which originally debuted in 1969
and looked insane this is this is a little bit different uh in that that car was gave birth to
the fiat x19 yeah this is i don't really this is this is kind of from the side it looks like a little
like wedgie the same way that x19 did and the original runabout definitely but unlike that car
which was powered by a very small fiat engine made 50 horsepower this is powered by a 3.5
liter supercharged v6 with 468 horsepower and a manual transmission and dug is looking at volvo
wagons i'm wrong and i apologize to everybody apologize to everybody yeah now it's it's based
on the yeah it's based on the exige architecture underneath but i think this is so cool they're
with a camry v6 but the thing that's one of the things there's a lot that stands out in the car
but one of the things to me is that it has pop-up headlights which i think is fascinating because
i thought those were not when you're only selling 25 cars and they're never going to see the road
yeah if they if that can be done then i want to see when when your picture is a i you can
have anything else right you got this guy looks like george flooney quite a bit yeah i think it's
super cool i mean they never got to make the original runabout because it became x19 but
they never made the right about and now they can make the runabout i actually think it looks
almost cooler than the original they're making 25 but this isn't a news we're never gonna see these
things there's also some for like was it conceco conceco what's it called the conciso conciso
yeah there's a little bit of that in there too this we're never no one's ever going to see this car
it's not a thing 25 units is it a manual uh yes six speed manual transmission damn i want one now
pay the 390 euro sorry dollar's a little weak right now it's not going to be first be sold in the
u.s the property of course xz is going to drive like it's going to tighten a little bit of a huge
drive poorly no but it's like wow like you hear brittona you hear italian you want some leather
you want some you want more you want a little more to it you want a little more car you want
a little more quality we think but it goes in different ways well have you ever been in xz it's
not that have you ever been in a fiat uno turbo no leather there no but like when i think of an
italian sports car an xz is just like a buzzy little lightweight thing that was never italy's
thing when it came to sports cars my fiat 500 bar cabriolet begs different that's not a sports car
first off a sports car by definition is rear wheel drive or all wheel drive i mean the honda prelude
begs different yeah dude yeah there's a real sports car twice like what the wx si i'm looking at
different or all the drive that's not a sports car a sports car by definition two doors two doors
that's trump trump right he's not wrong a sports car is a two door rear wheel drive but but
increasingly i'll accept all wheel drive because manufacturers have gone there but a sports car
needs to be two doors and rear or all wheel drive that's what's out of the sport car not sports car
it's always right it's available from a drive yeah the front wheel drive one is a is a golf
wearing a dress the the yep and this is the wx si is a performance car oh well this is a sports car
and it looks delightful it doesn't have to be comfortable uh anyway it's show it's in 25 units
this is a news story like does anybody care about this if you care about this we talked about one
of one car and the bubble wagons which they're gonna sell 2000 we haven't actually covered any news
today it's like relevant to anybody x9 would sell the x9 would sell but they're not gonna make
so that's zero well i'm into this and george cluney's time into it too i think it's cool
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our show and let them know that we sent you this is the biggest news of the week truck walla which
is a racetrack in the middle of nowhere is apparently for sale for 26 million dollars
i'll tell you this five 26 million i would buy that bucati twice like walla two and a half times
i wouldn't need two of them i would only need one because you can only drive one car at a time
and so truck also show and i saw the drive posted this you know the drive over there i'm familiar
yeah they post this on their instagram and i was reading the comments and the comments were all like
oh god another racetrack is going to be ripped from our hands oh no developers are coming for a
racetrack folks i'm be honest with you developers aren't coming for this okay it's way too there's
nothing near there but you you've ever been to truck walla you'll know why this will only ever
be a racetrack right you pass nowhere and you keep going but no one's living here this this is like
good as it gets for about 500 miles by the way it does include the airport and the airports
include in the sale by airport i want to be clear there's a runway there's a runway it's a long
flat piece of unimproved pavement which you probably can't land a real airplane at apparently
it's a good condition good condition but i'm sure the desert sun will change that right okay so
can you imagine weeding that runway out there no like the amount of amount of what is it called
like it's the raid away you're probably not probably in california it's been wrapped up for
rounder yeah they go to arizona they get like they have gear just real size
that's where you buy right exactly right uh or uh well this is well this is that we've been out
you and i've been to chuck walla you guys you've been a couple times we did a track video on it
we saw nick right here in this corner spin out and almost going to the wall
by the way this is just a picture there's an actual race track if you're a potential buyer
don't worry it's not just a parking lot tire thing there's a real race track we should talk
about why this might actually be somewhat notable i don't think it's notable at all someone else is
going to buy it it's going to be great okay so the concern is willow springs got bought by
private equity and it's going to be great the concern is that the price per track day the
price per rental has reportedly double tripled in the time they've owned it willow yeah which is
reasonable because well they wanted to make money all the more reason all the more reason to buy
chuck walla willows three times as expensive to attract a then start advertising all the willow
people get them down here so there are some concerns that whoever buys it will want to
modernize it maybe they'll want to make it safe maybe they'll want to have food maybe they'll
want to have bathrooms i don't know they may want to do crazy things to make livable and
then it'll be expensive and we will be out of reach for people in LA
or anywhere else it could be improved could be improved like the thing about chuck walla i love
it dearly and it's great and some of my greatest memories of chuck walla in addition to the track
day when we rented it out for a private track day for just us yeah video i also chuck walla was
where we did the strato launch and that changed my life you know i was at the strato launch and one
of the pr people comes up to me and it's a woman and she says hey nice to meet you and i you know
people always come up between these things like oh and then you know and she says hey you know
as she goes uh my dad has a career gt i'm like wow most people are like oh i got a miata yeah
yeah yeah i'm like oh my god i still remember that it's never happened before um regardless
it's for sale i hope that something cool happens with it and doesn't make it what's gonna happen
it's gonna still be a racetrack i agree that it's still be a racetrack out of reach however when
we went out there for our track day we had to stay in palm springs which was like two hours away
yeah and wake up at five in order to drive out there and get there for the call time i drive back
yeah and then it's like was like six hours back we all went in my station right because none of us
wanted to drive that far in any of our sports cars it's far it's far but i there's obviously
some concern like thermal is members only now like there's concerns become not attract the
there is no situation in which people will pay for private memberships no not out there to this
facility well if you live in palm springs it's only two hours yeah but thermal is right there
and i don't even think that this is dramatically further out than um willow is like they're all
out there for san diego this is this is a good track if you live in blithe it's nearby if you're
in blithe and you have a chimera you they do have a drag strip the the airport serves as a drag
really i don't know that they have staging lanes for that's how they keep a quarter mile yeah
shan shan we gotta get out here we gotta rent this place out what the hell we're running this
place out folks it's not selling before we gotta run it up now our beloved track is going away
we're gonna build condos we're gonna build condos assuming they can have sewers reach there assuming
they can build it the irony is the idea of them building condos if you wanted to build condos you
you'd buy the plot of land next door which is undeveloped and free it is literally free
yeah uh lake tomart lake tamarisk all right next news story please
ah yeah speaking of tracks so there is a sale right now there's a dealer believe in the uk that
has these two cars a downdraft maimbergini conchesa 5000 qv and this this is the lotus type
102 f1 car race in the 1990s 1990 specifically and what's notable about it is that it's powered
by a lamborghini v 12 now which one so it's which v 12 le 35 le 3512 which stands for lamborghini
engineering 3.5 liter v 12 so the le 35 12 lamborghini engine 3.5 v 12 engineering i think that
it stands for we're still trying to figure out what lmo 2 stands for right no but it's
just lmo that's all it stands for um but the reason i bring this up i mean it's a very it's
it's very cool this to be clear the engine this one car was terrible it had zero wins it had zero
pole positions it had one podium in its history not a good engine however one podium is real
right it's bad it was a bad engine but my point with this is that you have often incorrectly
asserted that the career gt has a formula one engine which it does not because it was never
in a formula one car however this engine which is slightly related to the kuntosh's v 12 was
a formula one car and so you know what very big you know what i get out of this yeah you know what
i get out of this they added a couple leaders leader in half here's what i've learned um here's what
i've learned my career gt has a formula one engine it does not sure now we know that my
kuntosh also has a formula one engine wow it does the other formula one engine in our group
nix p 38 has a formula one engine our friend nick roshan was a p 38 range over the here okay here's
this tie in if i ever have you heard this right thankfully i've not all right here's the deal
the land rover v8 of that era was derived from a general motors v8 that was produced between 1953
and 1981 it was the buick v8 and that was sort of derived that was how land rover got its v8
now smarter than to use one from the 60s that would list gets it for 20 years and then make it
unreliable yeah somehow they managed to screw it up but the rover v8 was based on this gm v8
also based on this gm v8 was australian formula one team rep co uh they they used the old
mobile the vehicles will be able to v8 uh it was in a brabham vehicle brabham no one cares
and it won the 1966 formula one world championship with the buick v8 and i had it that engine in
my yellow land rover defender so i would argue i i've had three formula one engine i don't argue
that the career gt is not a formula one engine you have a failed formula one engine in your
Lamborghini and nick is the only one who's won a world championship with his engine wait a minute
what do you mean failed they had a podium you said they had a podium yeah of the 80 races it
entered it only had 49 successful starts that's pretty oh start i didn't say they started before
635 percent of their races the engine is interesting though i just believe it or not
lamborghini had a handshake deal with mclaren to test this engine and senna actually drove her car
powered by this engine wow liked it he made some suggestions he said that he wanted a less brutal
top and a fatter midrange um but ultimately the engine was just not reliable and ronda
rondas decided to go with the pujo v10 according to reports senna even wanted to race the engine
at the japanese grand prix believing that well reliability might be a problem according to
mclaren's engineers they the most they got out of any powertrain before uh failure was just 19 laps
at silverstone yeah exactly uh it described it as a lot of a lot of sound not a lot of go
i think was the end that's the coontosh and that is the coot so it all was like it's all perfect
and i do like that the coontosh is finished in the same livery as the car does it bother you
do we agree that they're using models for those these are not real no no they're the pictures
are these pictures look like models i agree something about the coontosh looks too small yeah
does it bother you i agree with you does it bother you that i have all these four cars with
formula one engines um no doesn't that doesn't bother you no you ever watch an f1 race probably
as a kid probably in Italy oh well you're at month but my my uncle who lived about a mile away from
the month of circuit uh would watch them every time they were on every sunday whenever it was
that they're on who knows whenever they're on that's like moto gp so you you get exposed well moto gp
too you get exposed in italy to racing you know i've i've biked over the f1 track that's cool
here's something i didn't know that when could the konigsig ccr set the world fastest production
car record in 2005 it was using a version of the ford modular i was wondering where we're
going to get here which is the engine in the ford gt and it broke the record from the mclaren f1
which was a lesser car so i would argue that my my vehicles the fastest the formula one is
whatever makes you sleep better at night babe i'm surprised it took that long to get
to the module of v8 because surely that's been used in like stock car racing and NASCAR like i'm
sure it's that has other uses in america i think that by the time those kind of engines were out
you couldn't put engines like that in racing cars like they were there was different stuff going on
nonetheless uh nonetheless still uh i still have all of the great engines you know you could buy a
formula one car and actually have the engine turns out you get both of these well you formula
one cars aren't that expensive right trash formula one cars from like the 80s are probably pretty
cheap i wouldn't i'm gonna use them yeah well i feel use them i mean people put an ls in a formula
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engines of formula one cars he bought that formula one car that's right oh my god whistlin my hero
oh he was apparently arrested at the airport i seen coming back from dubai
and at bna you think they arrested him yeah so what happens next i i apparently he was released
on a bond about an hour later this was related again to the tax evasion on the montana plate
thing his his instagram post was basically they still didn't send me a letter they had
like an additional issue and so they send 20 agents to arrest me when i landed uh he's wearing
a la hat which seems surprising yeah this is tough because um it's tough to hear about your hero
getting arrested a second time a second time first time easy it it it who are your heroes
it's it's exclusively cody that weiler no mine is cody who was your like who would you be sad about
harry maccalf harry imaginable harry got arrested that that it's be like that for you like he's too
charming to get arrested to varish that'd be tragic tragic wouldn't be that surprise
arrested big love ready love him uh okay let's move on to the talk car segment the talk car
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but ineffective um the lamborghini i i my talk car segment is only related to the lamborghini
john tamarian i had it for a couple days as a press the temerario yeah the temerario that's
what it's called yeah yeah they gave it to me as a press car how was it fine when when's the review
coming out but i don't know all right great review thank you for it thank you for like
i leveled down with something we did what we needed to do um i i will say i saw it in your garage
yeah it's a big car it's big the temerario is almost a footy longer than the hurricane
that's a large year like generation or generation now lamborghini's generations are
ten years but if the x seven became a foot longer it's exactly what you want well no it'd be even
it'd be too big it'd be like bigger than an escalate it's a foot longer than the hurricane
it is 600 pounds heavier it's got a lot it and it is a thousand pounds heavier than some versions
of the hurricane like the lightweights it is like three inches wider which is also pretty real in
car width that's a lot car width is kind of gate kept at a certain width for regulatory purposes
so it's really a much bigger car it's 20 inches longer than a kuntash it's kind of unfortunate
because my god like i loved it and i love driving it but you kind of see
you kind of see like car design is going in this way that i'm not like as an enthusiast of the kind
of cars that i'm an enthusiast of i'm not that into right like the cars are getting bigger yeah
some in part necessitated by adding plug-in hybrid and electric technology but then in
order to overcome the weight difference that you've created you then have to add more power and so
every subsequent car is way more powerful way heavier and way larger than the previous one
and if the temerarios numbers i think from a percentage basis are probably up there with
some of the largest increases over its previous model but there's been a lot of talk about the
m5 same deal they add a plug-in hybrid system they add weight they add complexity well then they
have to add power to make up for it and i was just driving the new 992 turbo and that car is the same
sort of situation it's just getting bigger and bigger and bigger it's amazing driving that back
back with my 993 turbo which despite the name is actually 30 years sooner and all these cars and
they all do an incredible job of of engineering out the the issue with adding weight but they
have to engineer it out the way that they did it back in the day was the car just didn't weigh
that much so it felt tossable and now the cars still feel tossable but that's because there's
enormous complexity in trying to overcome thousands of pounds and in extra inches and feet in some
cases of extra size you know it's just a shame it's like kind of it's kind of sad if you like a car
that is like a tossable fun but powerful car the modern stuff has left you behind period well i
think it just draws more of an interest to the stuff that's slightly older i mean that car makes
the garter look so svelte and like delicate comparatively and driving wise it's like when you
drive a lot you can do a lot to hide the weight but ultimately driving a lightweight car just
is so pure okay you can do a lot to hide the weight and they do an amazing job i agree but it just
isn't the same by the way temorario four inches longer than murcia lago whoa that's nuts the
place where that falls apart a little bit i was just looking this up and assuming you trust google's
ai overview the karara t the 992 karat t is lighter than a base 997 karat t is such a great car but
even though the 992 turbo s which has a hybrid component it's only 200 pounds more than the 997
turbo this yeah but these grown that much only three inches longer and a little bit heavier so
that yeah but the actual weight the actual weight of a 992 dot 2 turbo s is 38 29 so i was looking at
dot one number okay well and it's that's an important distinction because the hybrid system is at it
and that's part of my point all the cars we're sitting here talking about that are growing part
of a reason that they've been growing so much in weight is because all three of the cars i just
mentioned the m5 the temorario and the 992 have added hybrid componentry yep and in order to then
counteract the hybrid componentry then you have to do this and that and you're just ended up you
ended up with a 4 000 pound 9 11 and and a long 9 11 like the 99 it's it's it's it's gotten to
180 inches long my little baby 993 is like what i want yeah but it doesn't exist they can't do it
anymore yeah the driving a tossable car is like there's something really fun about just like a
hydraulic at it there is relatively light tossable car that's why i took that car and then added a
large glass roof right with a point so yeah just add weight up high do you want it add weight and
all the drive that's what you need a 993 i would love a 993 but speaking of the 993 nice transition
i recently got to spend a long time in a 993 i drove a thousand miles back from
oregon in a 993 car 95 993 car being sold by a car by motor cars great seller on the
site it's going to end up on cars in bids relatively soon i completely agree with everything that you've
just said driving a lightweight simple car that i drove it over to the pch and carmel and drove
from carmel down to cambria and then i got to do the drive i got to do the drive it's it's open for
the one month of the next decade it'll be open exactly i haven't been able to do this in five years
same i haven't done it since 17 it's it's wonderful i did a whole video on it's on my youtube channel
i'm really proud of it i put a lot of like editing into it i had a lot of drone there's no drone i
haven't gotten to that's that level of production already have a drone do i look like scrap man to
you that man has a drone thanks and so does everybody kevin has a drone um but my point
getting to drive it on those roads it's like this is everything i want it's small it's lightweight
it's tactile it's analog it's simple it's relatively reliable it just did everything and it made me
realize like those cars are worth a lot of money for a reason i know i deserve to be i've been making
fun of my car for its its value but the more time i spend especially in modern yeah i'm just like
you know there's something to this yeah there really is and like one of the things i talk about
is just like i i know that air cool cars are a little bit more to take care of than some of some
other cars but nonetheless it did it i turned the key drove a thing a thousand not one issue it
just the car drove flawlessly and my car which is undergoing a significant service so i call them
that it's gonna be another week um yeah nonetheless was driving just fine yeah we're just taking care
of some leaks after 30 it's longevity you'll do that and it will the difference with those cars
is you put the money in and it lasts that's the beauty of those kind of old german cars but
nonetheless it made me develop a real appreciation for the 993 like i and it just it as cars get
bigger and heavier like you said it just that ear is really special can you describe the transition
from the light tactile analog 993 to your SL65 which is a little opposite of all this because
the career the 993 is not base prayer does that make you want to get out of the SL65 i mean i know
you're gonna get out of the S65 anyway but does that make you want to get out of it and get into
something that's a little bit tighter littler honestly uh yes i i now that said you know you
could do the german-clarke chain thing where you say well if you lived in a gorge in southwest
france then yes you want the lightweight nimble thing but most people don't and the reality of
this is like around here unfortunately the way you'll use a lot of cars is on highways like to
get to good driving roads takes effort and the really tight twisty stuff is like an hour and a
half away realistic it's an hour away 45 how long mountains an hour that's an hour and it's snowing
right now so you can't do it anyway or maybe you can i would but it made me appreciate that
93 turbo i have to say the 993 i would really love to have one of those cars in my garage
because i there's a classic you can use every day if you want to we really are a Porsche
podcast i know i hate to say it i'm gonna i'm gonna make a promise to you right here and right now
on this podcast today i will not buy another Porsche that's such an easy promise to make
maybe a 996 gt2 one day or but i will not buy another Porsche or 911st 911st or i'm not interested
i'm not going to buy a 911st i'm not spending 600 on that crap it's a cool car it's not 600
i you i can't even explain to you the number of cars i would rather have before i put it on
it's a great car i will not buy another Porsche i'm saying it to you here i am committing to you
that i am leaving Porsche guide them behind with just two of them in your garage well i got seven
dude you know what you know what hit me are you seven you know what i've got are you up to seven
you know what i've had more cars more more than Porsche that had more toyotas i've had more toyotas
i had a gen one Prius never forget that i got about the gen i had an 80 series i had a 200 series
i have a sequoia i had some sort of lexus because we're not counting the Porsche corporate cars
well those weren't mine i would they would have been nice they were rentals in the meantime for
six months it weren't my what am i supposed to do i mean i can't i'm gonna buy three in the next
year he's gonna buy 993 he's gonna buy kyan turbo if he'll buy a macan turbo honestly if i had the
money right now this this car wouldn't even end up on cars and fits i would just buy it it's so
lovely i am ripped apart to hear this we cannot be a Porsche podcast spikes already gotta let
him figure it out i am promising you here today except for the 996 gt2 i will not buy another
Porsche i'm not saying ever but i'm kind of saying ever i won't have him appeal to me i'm not sitting
here looking at 911 ours a little appeal i've still never owned one to be clear i've only owned
bmw's for one Ferrari in a Mercedes so like i still haven't owned like i feel very lucky but i
still haven't owned a Porsche i would like to and they're books that i would like to experience
but there are other cars i still love to i just think that like that one deserves a spot in my
garage jealous of that experience it was wonderful it's a highway part it's a thousand miles fine
it did fine it is definitely nvh has changed a lot in the 90s it was it's still loud and buzzy
which i didn't really mind i had you know i i you wear a pot at this point i had air pods in
exact i didn't have them muted but i had like just music on that way and um but yeah it just
just driving it through carmel and just almost twisty roads it was so perfect it was so great
i'm jealous it's a nice car it's a it's a great shifter clutch it's uh it's really
tossable very predictable car Porsche had done a great job of developing the 911 and then that
car was like the ultimate refinement of the original absolutely with a lot of stuff that they
had learned but the multi-link suspension made a big difference on that car it just
is so much more sure like Filippo's car as much as i love it the 997 definitely has more of a
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we could own filipo yeah i he did a thousand miles in a 993 i did a thousand miles in a pacific
hybrid and honestly it was great 30 over 30 miles per gallon across that drive it's a drive i do
often i get like 25 in the wagon 35 in the gti and i had a huge china cabinet in the back
got 30 miles forgot it was delightful it's a shame nobody can own one because they're
problematic i don't understand i had two two issues for you such a car issue number one um
what do you mean it's not ownable you did a thousand miles that's pretty good they have a bit
of a reputation for having yeah but a thousand miles i do any problems how how what do you take
it to the dealer every thousand miles you did you got a thousand miles done boom probably maybe i
will own one i love the pacific hybrid so good yeah plug it man plug it you like how it looks
i actually do think it's a good looking minivan it's the best looking of the minivan and it's
a comfortable enough and quiet enough and carplay works at least 70 percent of the time and you
connect this works 70-ish percent of the time too we're good chrisler it's such a shame chrisler
makes a bad car but it's such a good car i know also it's no longer sold what oh yeah they no longer
sold they got rid of all their plugins it's that uh by the way i was driving the pacific
hybrid to pick up a china cabinet but also to go to our event in scotsdale and i think wait
pictures i'm not done i want to ask another pacific a hybrid question you on this very podcast
said that you were going to drive that pickup truck and the china cabinet back from arizona
with a u-haul look what happened look some things happened that i thought i could get the truck
started and load it onto the trailer i couldn't also the trailer's a little bit too short i didn't
end up running it i did i when i had come all of these things were said to you what i had committed
last week uh was that i was i was trying to hire a shipper to do it and what happened uh it turns
out very few people want to go to northern arizona okay so you're gonna you're gonna get a non-op truck
you're gonna get the truck running in arizona i'll do something about you're not gonna think
about it right now have you considered the problem will be solved in the next week just yeah have you
considered getting an fkp homage no i saw that news decided don't care i'm gonna just keep putting
starter fluid in this car so so so you got it how worked you haven't got it running or you
have got it running i could get started but going further than that required more than i could do
in the back driveway in rural arizona didn't you tell me there was a timing issue the timing isn't
fully set but it's close enough i think that it would that would not be the only blocker to
running i can't get fuel in like fuel isn't going through a carb i imagine you clean the
carb and maybe they'll work it's i'm not a professional i don't know how to do anything i
called our co-worker colton who is a who's one of our auction managers and was a mechanic
and i called him and he guided me through some early steps and then i ran out of ability
tools and it was sudden it was before you said that our producer was just shaking his
we all knew that all of this was gonna happen i had given up on the u-haul plan and i had put it
out to get a shipper to do it uh and it was just really hard to find somebody to do it what a struggle
so you still don't have anybody to do it no okay uh if you live in northern arizona and you have a
flat uh flatbed trailer or a flatbed tow truck and you want to haul something from northern arizona
to san diego send us an email sean at cars and bids dot com that's s e a n at cars and bids dot com
and felipa will pay you how much we pay we'll see felipa will pay you twenty six hundred no
oh
pay you ten percent below market rate market rate well you just said you can't find it but
to do it so market rate is whatever the even at market rate it's real hard okay tell us about the
event you went to an event did you go to mickey's i did not go to mickey's i think we have something
to slide did anybody ask you to go to mickey's with them nobody asked me to go to mickey's but
i did start in a guy who has a youtube channel about a sob 900 i did like a pretty long interview
about sob with him in the parking lot so what kind of stuff did you say did you get into your
favorite sob the 97x i saw my favorite sob really what i'm a pre-gm sob guy really you're gonna
you're gonna be a priest he was there in a sob 900 an og sub 900 not an ng sub 900 obviously
that he had manual swapped because it's not hard well we're all manuals you have surprised
you see found an automatic but cool guy uh so we talked about the history of sob one of the cars
showed up give me some cars all right so the event that we were at was in collaboration with
avance and the warehouse uh and inside there were a bunch of gray cars scp euro brought a couple of
cars uh but but tim from from bbi out of sports brought a couple of his cars there were a bunch
of other really really cool cars including a series one e type uh but then outside the in the parking
lot there were some real cars i expected a cl3 cl type s six speed no not that real there there was
like a Bentley unadier mm-hmm no like an Audi q7 v12 sadly no but there were a lot of gc3s
like a front-wheel drive loader salon no that we have one of those here in the office like a
mazda navajo no we did have a v across them that's the navajo of the next generation there were
truly the parking lot became a little bit more of a car show than i than i thought it would be
i guess it makes sense people that are coming to a car van go on to the lot and like crack open a
beer and say oh look at this jeep grand Cherokee freedom edition there were like a lot of really
really nice cars in the parking lot two police officers from the mesa police department stopped
by so one guy pulled up and i thought he was gonna kind of be a little upset by people blocking
traffic turned into a lot but no he just pulled over came out and wanted to talk about the cars
in the parking lot and then go inside and check them out what is that buddy what was his personal
car an infinity j-30t i didn't ask him i should have though yeah i should have yeah the guy who
was there was a guy that was assigned by the warehouse there's like a really cool artist car
space uh that was directing traffic in the parking lot and he had a Ford Mustang gt
hmm did a Volkswagen carato s lc show up sadly what about a g 60 carato g 60 yeah no
boy all the cars i want to see they were legitimately like the vent inside was absolutely
incredible some really cool car really cool people and the parking lot was surprisingly like
strong as a showing nice that's there was a nice alarm clear in there
in the pacific hybrid did it have a function it had sultanary was functioning at the time um
apparently not can it can you tell us about the dino situation uh yes so i have a video that's
going to be coming out next week on my s l 65 i took it for a dino test which is really cool
and my car had rent tech badges with hang on a dino is a machine that measures horsepower or a large
prehistoric creature but this one's but the spelling is different and it's pronounced dino
in your language but i took my dino sauro so yeah so anyway i um i want to i was curious
because i've been told the car has a rent tech tune on it but i have no i have documentation
for everything else i have no documentation verifying that it was added when it was added
or what was added do you have documentation for the badges no nothing related to rent it
it also has the lowering module allegedly but i'm too afraid to mess with that but um
so i was curious what it what power is making so i took it to a dino test and i'll reveal more
there but the the biggest show i ran into was that the speed that has the speed governor on it
still so at a hundred and but it's not supposed to the rent text it's not supposed to but the numbers
are confused i get into it more in the video it's like do like a special sequence in the keypad in
the center dash to enter rent tech mode that would have been a good idea had they done that but
they didn't you know i um yeah i've never i've never i know it's a pretty good point i've never
dinoed an auto car so yeah well i mean it has a manual mode you want to get to where the the
gearing is one to one which is fourth gear and so you slowly build up to that and then you go for it
the one thing i will say that was interesting you see in the videos there's a guy who had to sit on
the back of it because the car doesn't have enough weight over the rear tires and just spins him on
the dyno that's what aero is for you know that car famously doesn't have well especially not when
it's not moving right that makes it harder once it starts moving though he can get off i assume
the guy stayed on the back of the car the entire time but it was a really cool experience i've never
done a dyno before i am kind of curious now what the m5 is making so i might do a video on that
yeah and that will be easy to do with the man it's uh kind of sketch and my car does not my m5
does not have a speed limit it is a little sketch because the car is doing about 160 miles an hour
sitting still and you're like them wheels are spinning quick and it's loud and it's and it's
it feels like it feels like some turbine is spinning at some speed where even a little faster
and some thing is going to explode and you have there are videos on the internet of dyno is exploding
seen in many times or cars exploding and they they even told me it's like yeah you can film everything
just stand over here so if something does go it's going to go past your head and i'm going to get
pregnant um but i'm excited to watch this it was yeah it was very interesting i have to say so
yep that video goes up on tuesday of next week so on mckinnon rolls on youtube yes on the youtube
okay we got to go to mark report mark reporters course is brought to you by cars and bids the
single finest auction platform in the history of auction platform yeah yeah take that uh i don't
okay well said really stuck it to the man uh i want to talk about the allero can you pull up
the allero this is this is something with allero yeah well i got a point to make here we just sold
an allero i think today uh for 4100 bucks this is five thousand three hundred five thousand miles
oh the survivor era is gone that's the thing everybody's like oh that's such a cool survivor
car there's no market for them not anymore no one is actually looking for a base model
even if it has five thousand original miles it is just not all that appealing to people and i
continue to see this with survivor cars and some of me actually wonders like if you're just looking
for a used car that will run why not buy a survivor on cars and bids like presumably this has
another 10 years left in it 15 years left in it and you just spent four grand
this is better than any civic you're gonna find on craigslist am i wrong
it's not a bad car to buy except for the fact that it was a bad car to buy yeah sure but like
for 4100 bucks if you just want a car to get you to work that everything is like all the rubber
presumably that hasn't oh you know what everybody says this i used to say this but i've driven some
low mileage cars and have it in no leaks and no issues and no nothing this is like
old mobile look i under this is a 3100 isn't it is it a 30 yeah i think it's oh 2.4 that's
probably why it's so low i have heard this argument 3100 would have been 20 grand i understand by
design it might have some leaks because it was badly engineered but like i'm i haven't run into
this like all the rubber shrinks and at least problem that people talk about a lot more on
low mileage cars all right fair there was a brief period of time go to mechanical photos
we'll see we'll take a look at the rubber we'll take a look at the rubber we'll assess it right
now i think there was a break when it could have been clean clean yeah it's a 5000 mile car
there is not a single gm 2.4 liter that still looks like this normally the alternators are
completely rusty or caked with salt oh they replace the oil and filter good that's all you need
oil and go this car like every allero is going to make it to 60 70 000 miles before the transmission
fails i think you're going to be just fine man that car got to 5000 miles they had a 5000
mile service in february of 2020 excuse me 2003 they drove 3000 miles in the three years
and zero so where is it where in florida man that's so florida uh i just think survivor cars are
a bargain i truly believe this for $4100 you cannot buy a civic or corolla like it doesn't exist it's
ratty car or you can go buy an undriven allero and in all honesty the gm cars this era were pretty
reliable they truly were gm had kind of worked the stuff out it was a pretty it was not a good
car dynamically it was bad the tech is not good but i bet you this car if you wanted to date start
dailying it today could last you longer than any equivalent $4100 car you could buy it's a very
and that's true of a lot of survivor cars that we sell there's just no market it's a gm product so
ac is probably pretty good okay okay well that was interesting thank you for that thank you so much
that is a reputation only correct thing all right move on to uh i want to talk about the nsx and
then the amirah situation let's talk nsx yeah we sold the nsx that's right behind you behind me uh for
$80,567 that's 321,000 miles just about uh that's off to ryan for taking these pictures
photos look great the you did a really great night drive video in it you get a review of it
321,001 owner miles and it got all the money now part of it is we did a top end rebuild
that helped certainly but you know the person i spoke with the the buyer obviously were arranging
when they'll come pick it up uh he didn't look at the service documentation he just wanted the car
damn he got a great car then he got lucky he was like does it need any work look at the service
we made this guy uh we because we were selling alongside coinbase put in a lot of money to make
sure it was perfect for the next buyer yeah so we lost all through lost money but obviously every
other reasonable human that would have purchased it would have made a little bit especially the next
yeah but it's such an incredible car i'm kind of jealous you the i saw the buyer comment that
i'm taking this to 500,000 yeah he he also has an avor gt that is the same colorway memory serves
colorway red black damn i'm here for that oh that was let's let's that by the way was previously
jlm's press car hit signed by jlm colorway instead of spec i live in the i live in the watch world
i'm already used to yeah he's getting there that thing looks so good there look at that
that is a really cool look it's such a good car it's sad to see it just turn around it's
literally i know but that photo this is why you got to take good photos because i see it sitting
there i'm like that's pretty cool then i look at that photo and i'm like damn i want that i like
that but i want that exactly like i said on my tombstone it will say here lies ken and he asked
for better pictures so that thing was a big sale uh i was really happy to see that also because of
our nsx love recently we've had a bunch more nsx has come on the site a couple live right now
there's like there's two live right now that couldn't be more different it's literally the
opposite of the nsx world one is a late model stick and the other one is a early year your tip
both are appealing cars though this car at 42 is pretty appealing like get in and drive it as a
commuter it can do 320 000 miles that's an interesting point that's an interesting point
like i think this car is cool as hell well you also have to imagine whoever buys it's to be manual
swapped immediately maybe yeah you don't have to deal with the snap ring thing on this 91 tip
nice you're all good folks you should come in the auction be like does it have snap ring can i
say about the the buyer of the one that we just sold he also he told me on the phone that he has
a z31 and a z32 oh wow z31 wow wow right he has a he has an an fdr7 damn he's doing that he's got
he's a 90s man as a questionable choice this guy has a taste but he's got a taste he's a 90s
guy get him get him into a mega dude a mega cruiser would work he did say he has an enius
grandeur so maybe a mega is like a upgrade enius grandeur is like a mega for people who aren't
ready i mean i i mean aren't ready to aren't ready to not be able to do the speed limit
i drove the speed limit at a mega it has a 90 downhill with wind it was it was a lower speed
road yeah that's right you did it but remember the guy who bought the mega that i reviewed drove
it from denver to seattle yeah just because he did it didn't mean it was fun or enjoyable i think
about that like pretty often i thought about it yesterday just like he came into my mind that
guy drove that mega from denver to seattle how far into that drive do you think he was in he was
like oh man i've made a mistake should have shipped this thing he's a little tent when he was in
okay the other thing we're talking about is ameiros can you hit me with an ameira yeah all right
ameiros ameira 85 grand is what an ameira is just regardless of how you spell it 85 grand that
is what a manual ameira is they're all between 85 and here's a here's an interesting lotus that's
too much thought okay keep on the company has been in bankruptcy or near it since i've been alive
the cars all are incredibly desirable i know how does it retain their values obviously msrp was
higher msrp was in the low 100 sorry this for this specific car that one that sold for 86
msrp was 96 so they've lost a little bit they're not above mark crazy or above
figure that this car is gonna i really wanted it too because i really want an ameira yeah i also
none of them are selling for no the chews only was an automatic that that failed to sell at 82
which honestly seems like i just i mean well part of it is i think it is a really good car it is
everybody fourth on there that should have sold yeah that should have everybody i have talked to
who has one loves it yes they're good and like i genuinely think they're good car so i think the
market is clearly speaking like they are desirable yeah it's weird because then why do we always hear
that lotus is going out of business gone out of business dying the company poorly manages its
finances the product is good but how they spend their money it's so funny even avoras hold their
value like no it's really annoying for gt's and avora 400s which are the ones you want are too
expensive i want any avora and they're all that's a zuki every sorry i don't know i take that off
a two plus two or an s uh which were the early ones are in the 40s and 50s that's real money though
a gtman 70 this is more money than a cayman from this era an 11 cayman is yeah 43 thousand dollars
they've retained their value too well it's really annoying as somebody that wants a cheap one just
43 thousand i think it's because they're just like decent but especially the gt and the 400s are that
looks so valuable that was a wrap yeah i love that but i didn't they do that that's cool that should be
oe lotus's hold their values lotus is exactly of course for the esprit elitra that has an oldest
value new actually that's going to hold this value pretty well based relative to the transaction
price there's a 250 sticker but they're going to transact at 80 they can't because lotus has
to pay 125 grand in tariffs to import it it's going to be tough for them to sell it it is crazy
expensive i do think that a huge part of why these cars hold their values so well is the
toyota powertrains or in the case of the amira it's a toyota powertrain or a mercedes one right
um depending on which version you get competent real sports cars but even by your definition
from earlier they're real sports car they all look very exotic yeah this is not my definition
like i just made it up a sports car is two doors rear or all-wheel drive and in my opinion it should
be two seats should be two seats should not sports car should be two seats should be rear
wheel drive but i make exceptions when i need to on the all-wheel drive and on the two plus two
but they all have two doors there is no three-door sports car sorry rx8
every dodge challenger v6 sports car no i didn't say every uh i didn't say every just to be that
to be that it has to be that doesn't mean that why isn't a v6 challenger sports car it's not a
sports car why because listen philippo i know when i see you okay you're helpful why don't you go
car by car i'll tell you what's a sport car what's not all right it's not this is like a bad idea
we're here we're going to get emails park is back to the mgs okay those were sports cars they were
two-seat two-door rear-wheel drive that was a sports car now we've expanded the definition a little
bit over the years every car basically was rear-wheel drive and were they two seat in two doors
many were many were like mgs and they were convertibles you know i at some point had a purest
definition of what if sports car should even be a convert it had to be a convertible but i've let
that go even though i still think that preferably a sports car has an open roof really the miata is
lots of the roof is off on any of your cars what do you mean 4 gt every week uh all right
ken and speaking market port what do you got uh yes so i recently did another video on the cars
and vids youtube channel on this jaguar xk 140 the one now this is an s e which is very special
so the s e sensor special equipment uh in the u s they're all called something slightly different
but this one was actually called an s e but the big thing this one got is got the jaguar c type
head which is very desirable the way you can tell it's got the c type has this right in the middle
it has a c that's cast it they're all red at the end there's also some markings on it that shows
that it's got a c yeah i took a picture of it it's in here somewhere but this car i was shocked i have
almost completely ignored cars in the 1950s because i don't know there's not like particularly
interesting to me then i drove it and i'm like this is such an experience there is it is so raw
but and it's just so beautiful and so fun and it's like i understand that like and i say this in
the video i understand that like modern younger enthusiasts like i mean from financial constraints
alone like having one car is enough having two is kind of like untenable for a lot of you and i
totally get that i only own four cars right now but if you have a little bit more money right exactly
i'm fleet was rich over here but if you if you have a lot of if you have more room in the garage
and a little bit more money to spend this offers an experience like nothing else and i think that
these are relative bargains given how cool they are i think it's one of those beautiful cars it's
historically important it was fun to drive it's relatively quick and it just i was shocked at
how much i enjoyed it good cars i also kind of turned my back on a lot of 50 60 stuff but good
cars in the air are really good yeah a gold wing is like a really good car i still haven't driven
one so i can't say but it's the same kind of idea like cars that were good that were well engineered
are good they may not be as usable like the Daytona that was a special like that these there
there are cars in that era that i now even look at and think should i yeah if it has really the
coontosh opened our eyes to the older cars true no one in our friend group had a car that old or
even close to that old until i got the coontosh or would have even considered but now it's like i
look at and then it's like well if i'm already dealing with carbs you know yeah what else should
i you know how it hasn't been so bad like what else is out there and then you start thinking
about Daytona's then you start thinking about these then you start thinking about dino's on
that the e-type that you recently did a video like that car i was shocked at how nice that car drove
like they really it also underscored at one point jag was making some of the best cars in the world
yeah they really were because they won them all in 1951 and 1953 with the c-type this car was one
of the fastest cars on the planet it was just like so far ahead of its time yeah my favorite thing and
this is likely to talk about this car forever in the 1950s jag was really into setting speed records
they really wanted to like prove that the cars were durable reliable and fast and one of the
things they did with an with an xk was they took it and a guy had driven it for i think it was a
100 miles an hour over 100 miles an hour for 24 hours only stopping to change the the driver
like they changed it and one of the drivers got and said this car is so salty you can do this for
a week and so jag was like you know what let's do it and so they did exactly that and they drove one
for it an entire week uh and i think at one point it had suspensions but they just kept going
and it's it's it's 17 000 miles but it was constantly running for a week only stopping for fuel
and to change drivers that was it wild yeah now when we think jag it's like reliably doesn't
like is not but at the time it was like and this should have been the e-type was great
and if only they continued that upward trajectory but they lost the plot somewhere after the xj220
like i think after the xj220 they definitely lost the plot late in the e-type i think the
for me i think it was the xjs is where the xjs came out it was it was kind of the beginning
of the infrared work but i've been a lot of political change i mean that there was a fuel
shortage that life was different definitely but i can recognize that the the uh the xj220 and like
the xj are 15 are very special really incredible automobiles as is the xe project eight yes harry
matt kaff but i think but this to me was just such an experience and a lot of people commented
it's finally nice to see kind of review from his era which i yeah i don't disagree i'm glad you
liked it so much i totally agree i think that really well done cars from this era uh are do really
are surprisingly enjoyable it's an era that i had completely cast aside until i actually drove some
well done cars from this era and you remember people drove these yeah like around like it's
now it's looked at as such an imposition to drive an old smelly car but actually these were people
drove them like it was doable and you could do it again if you care this is my uncle's first car
was an xk1 really which was having driven i was like i don't know how the hell he drove that every
day nice yeah well uncle chuck he's he's a killer but yeah go check out this auction go watch the
video and uh this is also from car by motor cars another great seller so all right we got to move
on to questions questions questions folks we had great questions this week and you too can ask us
questions you go to cars and bids dot com you click on the community tab there's the cars and
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ask your question you might be answered i asked i'm answering some questions this week they got
zero upvotes whoa we're going controversial here we're going i just wanted to get the good stuff
Sean's coming to kill us uh first question from big boy car lover big boy car lover
douglas you take pride in having owned a wide range of vehicles but there is something you've
never had a pickup truck if you had to buy a truck older new to go with your current fleet
what would you get i want to be clear i is it is it true that i'm in a pickup truck that might be
true but i had a Hummer wagon yeah but you know guys in pickup trucks are driving a Rolls Royce
compared to that thing what would you have you'd have a ridge line oh we forgot to talk about the
ridge line um no i would never in my life ever consider a Honda ridge line what about a Subaru
Baja what about brat no what about a Hyundai um Toyota trucks i i sometimes think about
a four or Tacoma four i like the new frontier kind of i like a small mid-sized kind of Japanese
truck i like the new frontiers great i'm not i don't need a big trial like i can't justify or
need a big i like the ranger a lot the new one and the ranger is good the one that came out in
nineteen and well the one that came out of nineteen really came out of like 2012 yeah but
that was a great truck yeah it was a great power came out that turbo four was a great engine diesel
colorado i don't know Chevy's the Chevy trucks have never been as appealing wow you're a Ford
man Dodge Dakota I mean he's a Toyota man for dodge yeah i would get a Toyota convertible uh no
no no the fleet was genuinely upset about this i've never seen him so pull up the Dodge Dakota
convertible if i would if i had to buy any of the full-size trucks yeah i'd probably get an f150
over over a Silverado yeah who wouldn't and and i would probably get a ram over both of them if
it wasn't we've wasn't so many yeah i don't know yeah a ram is the ram shall be Dakota is a different
situation that's that's legit you know one thing that is never really appealed to me has been um
the pride performance trucks like i've never like nick wants a ram srt-10 rath or trx i like all those
it's not you never really been into like the concept of actually going your your SUVs have
camel fenders but you're not that generic sex right right right right right i'm trying to think
is there anything else that i should be thinking of oh an x-class no pull up an x-class oh i'm
familiar with the x we don't talk about the amorak the x-class i would buy it was based on the amorak
right no it was based on the nissan navara that's right it was based on navara but isn't the amorak
also based there's a lot of like development sharing in the european you know where i saw what
college about that about you know where i saw one of these brought a slava wow really i saw one in
you gotta be pretty legit i have one for you to be seeing an x-class and brought a slava
any of you viewers out there ever seen an x-class and brought a slava shout out to brought a slava
you know what they make in brought a slava the cayenne all right let's move on to the next question
let's pull up with like 2000 fiesta strada oh yeah i do like the little trucks the little
mexico trucks the little latin america trucks i do like to look at that that yellow one far left
i don't like those but oh no they're atrocious what's the the ram 700 or the ram rampage you
know how the it's the ram 1500 yeah in mexico they sell the ram 700 and i actually really legit
like that yeah it's cool truck that's also the fiesta strada right uh yeah that's a cool truck
but we only think about the 2000 oh i like the maverick a lot i like a hybrid the maverick is
great there's a lot of the trucks i would get it's just never happened but it will someday i love that
range we know it won't really why would it why would it happen because dude i gotta transport
materials all right next question from robio math doug philipo and kenan uh let's hear how fast
you've driven and what vehicle you were driving the fastest you've driven uh in mexico of course 160
miles an hour in the uh in the sl 65 you drove you've been 160 in your sl 65 yeah in mexico
oh my god close by it's easy it moves you're insane it's fast that my m5 is not far behind i have
done 150 something i'm gonna kill somebody nah i'm just gonna wait around what about you i don't
know i can't think of there's not like a number that's sticking out of my mind i did 160 on the
autobahn on a cayenne turbo oh i did clatter into the limiter a couple then world's 155 is where the
x3 limit x3 m50 i on the autobahn that's fast head 150 kilometers many times i'd tell you something
160 is a lot i did it in a cayenne turbo i did it like three times in the same cayenne turbo um
which was actually let's check this out it was actually a gen nine five seven or whatever the
enthusiasm nine pa is correct it was like a 2010 so a faith lift first gen first gen turbo s
on the autobahn going a five-speed automatic yeah yeah i'm stunned it's geared high enough to do that
it goes it goes and i had an open stretch i was there i was with some sort of business trip with
and they gave us that was like our car that we all were sharing the four americans who had come
and i got it for some for some afternoon they all had some meaning that i didn't have and i took it
out and passed duke art out into the country and i just let it go and i got up to 160 no exactly the
stretch you did it on it's like terrifying i think it's great i didn't find anything scary
but it was the winter and um that okay all right so you're doing a snow tires that are rated to go
120 you know i didn't think about that it probably was on snow tires that literally didn't cross my
mind until this moment yeah it was also there definitely was yeah it's as required i don't
go that fast very often but as you before i do like i do a whole series of checks and like make
sure it's like there's a lot like you do you put the speed key in if it had one unfortunately it
doesn't but i would if it did i like procedure boy is that true uh question for doug kennan
from little bubba what's your favorite car movie or car movies i i don't know if it counts but i
feel like it does because the car is such a character movie my favorite movie of all time is
ferris bueller's day off and the car is like obviously a pretty cal spider yeah repped cal
spider but amadna which we've sold a number of those on the side for big money for real money
which is another topic altogether my favorite i love gone in 60 seconds dearly strong yeah however
fast and furious you've only seen the first three yeah but one i'm only talking about number one
to be clear i'm only talking about number one they become less about cars as they go fast and
furious one is the greatest car movie of all time period you know it's pretty good the remake of the
talent job with mark wallberg yeah it's a mini movie right i don't do minis i think i agree
and something to then okay that's not enough they're over defenders family man's another good
one that 550 550 not a lot of 550 marinella movies not many that was a nice one too yeah
calico was good yep i can't think of anything that i know you know it was great the charlie's
angels movies like not great movies but ferrari sponsored them at the time because ferrari wants
like for advertising and so they have like enzo the cow spider like tons and tons of like
36 i came in diaz's character driver 360 um and i because i believe i can't remember who it was but
like they like the actress has got to drive the enzo before any journalist i get at the time
because there's one scene i can't remember for i don't want to say elizabeth hurley but that's
not right there's this girl's getting out like she was opening that demi more there's demi more
thank you demi more was getting like i came out of the ocean with like her surfboard and she goes
to like get in the car and it's an enzo i'm like open the door and she drove it and so she drove it
before that's incredible but it's like demi more at a more more into the ocean with your surfboard
yeah more informed position than any automotive journalist i we should probably call out the
daniel craig james bond movies for deep forward sponsorship they they highlighted a fusion they
highlighted a car they're really they went big yeah that's true they went deep forward because
although the the the ones were ford owned astin and jaguar there were one was it dine other day
where there was the green xkr and the start of one of them has a chaser that includes a julia quad
um it's so funny when i think james bond i think of the dvs and casino royale you
really i think of the the ford fusion in that same movie i think i still think of the bm the ranger
i still think of the bm oh yeah of course when i think of james bond i think of pierce brosnan who
in my opinion was the best james bond although they're pretty assured by nobody no i agree
which i think were the best i have a license plate designed by pierce brosnan keep that in mind
the best i think the best james bond usually is the james bond that was james bond when you
grew up and in our case it was pierce brosnan okay we got two more questions uh next question is
from doug's nissan cube will shon ever appear on the pod would be interested to hear about his 360
and g 63 ownership first off shon doesn't have a g 63 he's got a bad color g wagon it's a regular
g 550 uh and he's not cut out telling it
he keeps having all these problems that like you can chalk up to just he's not ready like he
needs a grenadier honestly is what he needs no he needs like a newer car with a warranty think
about how much he'll complain his 360 ownership has been great he won't appear on the pod shon
is an old friend of mine i've he's been in production for a long time he produced worked on
a lot of shows you've seen if you're in the car world however he doesn't like to be in front of
the camera which is shame because it'd be nice of him right there he says he'll come on the pod
eventually if you wanted to come on the pod write to him at shon at cars and s e a n at
cars and bids dot com s e a n at cars and bids dot com and if he doesn't reply to you just email him
again uh yeah just keep sending him notes sign him up for stuff i was like i was gonna say that
but i was thinking uh okay next question i'm gonna do actually two more mouse cop very important
question for Doug why do you no longer get the back seats of cars that you review this is a question
i get a lot i i have back trouble serious real back you do um that um i try to avoid doing crazy
stuff with my back i have little kids now and i want to play on the floor with them and i don't
want to have back trouble i had uh some real incidents with my back that really caused some
problems and i have it for a while now and i'm just trying to avoid anything like that so i don't do
it anymore uh which i'm sorry i saw you in the backseat of a haunted prayer i did get in the
backseat of that video i did yeah i don't do a lot that my job is more physical than it looks
it's not anymore because i shoot everything in here but like for a long time i was like in i was
like five hours in the sun every day you know i'm doing down a lot why you didn't just sit on the
box like i do for others just i'd never i never bring a box like the difference between me and you
is you have a box yeah i have a backpack but i i try to be as as as slim and as easy as possible
because when you start adding stuff it means you got to add stuff and and one thing keep it in and
then something doesn't fit in most cars it does it's not look at it it's not very large it's
it there's literally a backpack next to it it's barely taller than that massive cano it doesn't
fit my 4g t anyway the point is nothing doesn't have a trunk well there you go the point is uh
i don't kill myself for this job anymore i only sit yeah like i did for so many years
toiling laying brick out in the hot sun i was digging holes and something appropriate somehow
i was i was digging holes and framing houses for so many years i can't go anymore now i sit here on
this podcast in an air-conditioned space with filipo yep it's a shame we are underground
uh that's our big who do you think dug the foundation it was me by hand with a steam shovel
yep definition of by hand there uh well but the steam shovel also requires a lot of work it's not
like you just it's not like modern technology that he uses you gotta you know don't forget it's
powered by steam you gotta have someone to feed the fire the steam and then burn my skin i came in
at night with burns you know who would do that really well you would be really good at running a
steam locomotive you know yes i'd also be a good lighthouse keeper i've been told like a lot of
victorian era things i would keep pretty good okay last last i'm gonna do two more but i'm doing
very so quickly that it's gonna feel like one douglas and filipo would the new prelude actually be
compelling at the pre-tariff price point no not what impact of that price no except now they may
because there are there's talk of additional tariffs on japanese vehicles the president
has announced additional tariffs will that happen the prelude it would have been everybody's
talking about price point it would have been so much easier to just give them more power
like the whole problem could have been solved with 65 more horsepower and in and so everybody's
like oh make it cheaper i don't think it's compelling at 38 like i think it's compelling it's
how much is this specific hybrid yeah that's the problem like civic hybrids are 34 brz is i mean i
would rather have a brz and that's like 33 or something the prelude would be more comfortable
if you want that you get my point yeah but i don't want that no one in a coop segment wants that
anymore i don't disagree like the the plr we're talking about a court hybrid for 34 yeah it's a
good vehicle that same mpg as a prelude so the answer is no i truly think that the way to remedy
the prelude is not to make it cheaper which is what everybody's saying it's to give it more power
it's to give it the power that it actually should have you know it's funny honda's like oh we're
bringing back this name plate that everybody loved from back in the day well the people who loved it
were people who were 17 in 2000 those people have enough money now to go out and buy but they also
have expectations of performance that have changed from when they were 17 in 2000 and 200 horsepower
felt fast and honda hasn't delivered that and so they hit the nostalgia crowd with something they
don't want i don't want to actually go back to high school i want to go back to what my high school
self wanted yeah and it is not a 200 horsepower prelude uh hard to argue with that okay last
question from my cash viper doug you mentioned during your reviews that a certain car drives better
or worse than a similar car in the second segment as a journalist to make sense to say these comments
but how do you remember when you have driven so many cars in your lifetime this is my job
of course i remember doug has any for those that don't know doug person he has an exceptionally
good memory but also which like does matter this is what i do every when your job you probably
remember how to what do people do in their jobs i don't know index match in excel would you look up
philippo can do a pivot table philippo can do a pivot table like that you ask him to a pivot
table doesn't sleep doesn't use the mouse he just uses the keyboard shortcuts okay no that's
that's the equivalent okay i went to the heart doctor i got some heart thing i went to the
heart doctor and i wore like a heart patch you know for like a three weeks or something
and i went in there and i said yeah here's the data and he said oh this is nothing i said and i'm
looking at it right and it's like this right right and i'm like oh how do you know he goes
i've been doing this election yeah i think you're right like it is your job to remember
how those cars drive to pay really close attention to that this is what i do it's the only thing that
i do i'm gonna keep that clip uh all right do we have anything else philippo do you have any
final thoughts for the audience no but keep checking out our events if you missed the one
in uh phoenix we're gonna have an event here at our office with avance if you're an avance
san diego member should go check that out sign up if i'm an avance san diego member my member on
the all the avances i believe so i don't know that's a question for the avance folks sorry the
answer is yes to that you you got any parting he's just gonna promo us and i can't take it anymore
you got it part of the car so the avance you talked to our friend kevin yay signed up uh yes
just check out my i've got a lot of cool youtube content coming to go go check this thank you i've
been trying to why wasn't i invited what we'll do something together but go check out my youtube
channel it's ken and roulson i want to be clear not to be in it but to just see a diner i'll
invite you for the these guys are promoing stuff i'm not going to promo anything i'm only going
to say one parting thought which is send us an email sean at carsandbids.com just to check in
s e a n at carsandbids.com goodbye everyone goodbye goodbye january
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00:00:12 The New Bugatti Veyron
00:05:12 BMW X9
00:10:23 Volvo Wagons
00:13:45 Bertone Runabout
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00:30:34 WhistlinDiesel Arrested... Again
00:31:53 Talk Cars
00:33:13 Doug Drove The New Lamborghini
00:37:50 Kennan Drove A 993
00:44:47 Filippo Drove A Pacifica
00:51:12 Kennan Put His SL65 On A Dyno
00:53:46 Market Report
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00:57:02 Acura NSX-T
01:00:45 Lotus Emira
01:04:50 Jaguar XK-140
01:09:27 Community Questions
01:09:59 What Pickup Truck Would Doug Buy?
01:13:27 How Fast Have You Driven?
01:15:37 What Is Your Favorite Car Movie?
01:18:31 Will Sean Ever Appear On The Pod?
01:19:36 Why Doesn't Doug Get In The Back Seat Anymore?
01:22:04 Would The Prelude Be Better Pre-Tariff?
01:23:39 How Do You Remember What Every Car Drives Like?
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