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Hello and welcome to this car pod I'm Flippo and there's a lot to discuss starting with
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Bugatti the very coolest car ever this is so cool so this is the Bugatti FKP homage
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which stands for Ferdinand Carl Pieck one of our favorite automotive dynasties he is
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an absolute killer a legend a legend absolute legend in the automotive business but this
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car pays homage to the Veyron which has been which came out 20 years ago which is over
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20 years ago which is hard to believe but this is a one-off based on the Chiron but
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it's supposed to look like a Veyron and they're only building one of these and it has some
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annoying details that you would hate like it has like an AP Royal Oak clock on the dash
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and stuff like that but the big news is that it really looks like a Veyron down to the
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wheels like the original wheels we love so much this is the coolest thing this is so
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cool have you seen this yeah of course they you know every every we all agree that the
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Chiron is better but the Veyron is cooler yeah absolutely boom yeah problem solved that
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is so cool I saw the picture of this last week after we did our pod and I thought it
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was just the absolute coolest thing I've ever seen in my life I couldn't agree with you
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more it is such a neat idea to take the Veyron which was a compromised car in a lot of ways
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it's technically it's very expensive to own very difficult to own and now starting to
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get dated and to modernize it and update it with all these with the Chiron improvements
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but to like keep the look it's like all those BS companies that are making retro versions
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of like the Diablo and the 550 and the 355 and all these things except Bugatti did it
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and well right exactly it is weird to think the Veyron is now a throwback car yeah but
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it is I mean it's been up for a long time but I agree I do wish that it were the blue
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the blue and black color that's my favorite on the Veyron but nonetheless like they really
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went they explained they went into a lot of detail to make sure everything was as close
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as they could get it but just looked a little bit more modern like the the front grill is
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different but they were really careful about that and they paid a lot of attention to their
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heritage which I respect I'm actually surprised they were able to get this emolligated for
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road use I'd be a little curious to know the story obviously this car was commissioned by
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the one person who has it and I'm wondering what their country's roles are in the US this
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car would have to be re-certified because it's like a completely different design it's not
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just a slightly different body panels I mean it's like a totally different look you have
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different angles and different dimensions and materials are different and I'm really really
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surprised that this was able to just sort of happen I am not sure I don't I don't believe it was
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for a US customer they said that this cost 10 million euros so I suspect that it's probably
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staying well yeah and I think if you look at the picture of his because that's the one that's
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not a US car because it doesn't have the orange marker DOT markers that's right I love this car
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and I love Ferdinand Pieck and right up until this point the only other car to pay tribute to
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Ferdinand Pieck in its name was the Lamborghini Scion which was technically called the Lamborghini
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Scion FKP 37 which was a reference to his initials and his birth year right it just rolls off the
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tongue needless to say no one knows that's what that car is called but that was technically its
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full name this yes very cool execution on that car very cool execution on this one this one better
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this is I think one of the coolest cars in existence and if it only costs 10 million euro
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that's crazy to me like she owns regularly sell for 4 million euro this car is obviously going
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to be a tremendously special collectible one day yeah this car is a reason to get rich
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hmm I sure they weren't a lot of things out there that are reasons that you really want to be
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this car is one of them that's like people think there's a lot oh I don't want to fly
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pride all that stuff is either overblown or dangerous or bad or stupid or it comes with
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headaches but this car this is the thing having a new Bugatti that looks like an old
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that's the reason to get a slightly a slightly not type 37 just 20 years ago I just think it's
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so cool I also love these bespoke cars like Ferrari's doing this now too and obviously lamb
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Bugatti's done it and Lambo's done it a little bit doing these like one-off things for like
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people who are just willing to pay for them that's like what what we what we are so into
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that the salt and the brunei did back in the day and these companies are still like letting it
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happen within reason and it's kind of cool to see it okay you got 10 million dollars yeah 10 you
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could buy one yeah I would you buy that over anything else for 10 million well I only have
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10 million to spend on one car is this one of those stupid I live in Singapore in my garage
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only one space but the time you get to this you've owned all that other yeah this guy ate
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other cars yeah exactly he has this one to be clear and apparently the watch that's in it is like
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he the owner collaborated with by the way which is a very rich guy I think I don't even think that
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the watch is silly even though I hate that you don't know because like this is all about like
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bespoke one-offness like that it should have like really cool details to be clear for everybody
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it's a royal it's a royal oak tourbillon a royal oak which is a very David Lee hook me up with one
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of those yes probably all right give us our next news story oh all right good the new sevens
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apparently BMW dealers are starting to really request and push BMW corporate for an x9 so
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BMW's lineup has x1, x2, x3, x4, x5, x6, x7 but then it stops there's nothing bigger than x7
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let me ask you this why aren't they pushing for an x8 you know they might because the x8 would be too
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koopy because historically the the even number is the coop version of the odd number the x2 isn't
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koopy it is koopy compared to the x1 no yes that's their naming structure the evens are
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i know that but the x2 is not have you seen it they look like a have you seen it pull up an x2
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please i'm sorry can we have to get this right for our listeners the x2 isn't it doesn't have a
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sloped roof it just has the two bmw logos on the outside i'm not wrong about this is that not a
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sloped roof how would you describe that that's the new box yes what do you think we're talking about
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i'm trying to say original i'm sorry do you think that we're not talking about the new car
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we're off the rails the point is they want to do an x a larger they want to like an escalate
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competitor if you look at the if you look at the dimensionally the x7 is smaller than other cars in
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its segment yep as a three row however it's also been out for six years i would argue just let them
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redesign it we don't necessarily need a lot i mean what are we talking about like a suburban they
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they want like an escalator tahoe size vehicle which is 10 inches longer than an x7 well they
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so they failed with the the xm going for a gwagon competitor so now they want to choose an escalate
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competitor that's their target i mean i'm not surprised that american bmw dealers want something
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that competes with that kind of top tier it doesn't make sense for me gls is only two inches longer
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than an x7 sure but an escalates eight inches longer than that well what's a tahoe tahoe
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tahoe is eight inches longer than an x7 great they don't want a gls competitor they want a tahoe
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they would have a gls competitor in the x7 they want something even bigger because they need to
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sell cars in texas i just it seems odd to me why not just make the x7 a little bit bigger and
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solve both i think they would be okay with that too give it a bad time they just want more suv's
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and they want more larger suv's to keep the x7 is small it came out at a time when the three row
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segment was kind of birthing it's q7 size even yeah it really was but now things are bigger in
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general let's give us another a larger xi i'm not surprised the dealers wanted i hear bad things
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about the third row in the x7 as far as usability i will also say there was news this week that
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volvo is considering a vehicle larger than the xc 90 and so i think there is a little bit of a push
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to go larger the xc 91 xc 110 i guess it's better there aren't odd i guess 60 is odd xc 100 no but
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but the odds have historically been my take on bmw's naming structure is correct it's generally
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right but the original it's generally right it is at this moment you know you know where the
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yeah but you admit the original x2 looked normal is there a new x4 uh i think so i think they did
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do a new x4 although that car has not been successful you know why they're not calling it x8
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because any badge that's ever worn in eight and bmw's history has not been commercially successful
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what about the new eight series the latest eight series the one called a huge commercial success
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no it isn't it already failed yeah um anyway the point is love v31 everybody wants big vehicles
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everybody wants suv the more suv's the merrier yep factually accurate that's just the truth
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everybody's upset about this cannon's upset about this all the bmw people bmw has left behind
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well look what buyers have left you behind well yeah i don't care i tuned out a long time ago i'm
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not buying new ones i want to keep the old ones around you know it continues to hit me as i think
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about this when when my mom bought an azuzu rodeo off the showroom floor from jerry roth azuzu
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in aurora colorado in 1992 brag about it yeah with a stick shift and steel wheels
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brag worthy that car didn't have intermittent wipers yeah you had to there was there was an
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individual like one wipe and then there was on and off and so you had to just turn off the level
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that's what we could afford anyway the point is um
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back in that era making buying an suv were acquired real compromise yeah and now it just
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doesn't and so like the reason that all these people have been left behind with their sedans
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is like you can get you can sit up higher and still have the same driving dynamics the same
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acceleration the same nvh it didn't used to be that way with suv's and so the you know what your
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new car is x5 m yep yeah nah let's stick with my old one there is there was a cannon out there
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who's seven right now who the x5 m is going to be his e39 m5 or you can just have a regular x5
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because it has the best bmw in line six the b58 yeah b58 i got behind a rear wheel drive one
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today did you and that's a that's drive 40 that's drive 40 yeah i understand things like things have
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changed and the younger demographics will laud these cars that are out now i'm just sticking
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with my e39 i'm happy with that well the rest of the world wants their sport utes in fact right here
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on behind me oh it's gone is an x5 okay next news story please uh all right oh volvo must be
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believe volvo v 60 volvo had said that they're done they're done with wagons but in a series of
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interviews the chief strategy and product officer michael fleiss uh said that yes he thinks that
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there's a market segment in the u.s for wagons and i quote even interestingly china is coming up
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with wagons it's hot right now so people are really liking wagons that is a direct quote
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so there's a chance of volvo wagons will continue and we'd all be thrilled wagons are hot dude i was
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the last holdout i have never not had a wagon i was the last holdout i currently own a wagon i thought
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it was he had come down to a trickle it was down here it was at the very and i got one of the last
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ones in existence i got the outback here you know the outback is now taller than a rav four
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taller in height than a rav four that's not a weather roof rills that's not a wagon anymore i
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didn't get into the specifics because i think the point is made the outback is eight inches taller
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than my e450 the wagon and your e450 is like three inches taller than my actual station wagon the
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wagon is dead yeah but it might be back so who's still doing wagons out he's got the a6 and the
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and other markets there are other manufacturers not many because all of the main european manufacturers
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have a wagon i know but every time i go to europe which is every two years or so it's suv since
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sad it looks like america it's really sad smaller suv though no x smaller suv's no x9's you never
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see x7 like an xc90 is a huge luxury vehicle in europe as a kid when the q7 came out first on q7
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it looked so incredibly giant yeah you would see some 20 you know he tries to play this off he
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claims he moved to the united states in like 2000 but now he's over here when the q7 came out
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when i was a boy i would go back 2007 yes i would still go back to he's tries to play both sides
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of this whole thing is he italian is he american we don't know he's an enigma uh yes okay fine
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thrilled to have volvo wagons they're all gonna be electric i mean yeah yeah but i'm thrilled to
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have volvo wagons they make nice looking cars like i'm wagons are nice i'm hopeful i've never
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did this day had a volvo station wagon have you no sadly do you ever have one who of course
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obviously who in who in who in your circle of friends when you were a kid had a volvo wagon
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we had one my buddy bret shea his mom had one it wasn't common in the midwest it was odyssey's were
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really popular at that time that was like yeah you you're too you're too young like it was
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you're a little post volvo wagon nattison wisconsin wagon central gotta have a couple friends of the
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v 70s had a couple legitimately two different friends with stick legacy wagons the 09 generation
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oh wow yeah uh when i was there were wagons when i was like 20 my best friend joe in denver had a
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v 70 cross country yeah and we took that to car week one time really i was driving around a car
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week in a v 70 cross country 2000 collect the box well what was the top white with black on the
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bottom oh black but it wasn't this wasn't the next gen this was like a 99 this is like the first boxy
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one you said v 70 xc of course i know yeah although the first two years of the then next
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generation car was also called v 70 xc they didn't come out with xc 70 for like two or three
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model years after the 2001 model came out that's something for you to look up uh we're deep into
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volvo wagons now i'm right about this you can look on our side i bet we sold a bunch we haven't
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sold that that's a shame all right let's keep going what's our next news story oh yes burtona so
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for those of you unfamiliar bro tony bro tony was a design house from well yeah it still is then
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still is they got bankrupt a few times they're around exactly like all good italian design houses
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they've come bankrupt a couple times kind of but they've recently released this they're calling this
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their neo retro rebirth of the auto bianchi a 112 runabout which originally debuted in 1969
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and looked insane this is this is a little bit different uh in that that car was gave birth to
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the fiat x19 yeah this is i don't really this is this is kind of from the side it looks like a little
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like wedgie the same way that x19 did and the original runabout definitely but unlike that car
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which was powered by a very small fiat engine made 50 horsepower this is powered by a 3.5
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liter supercharged v6 with 468 horsepower and a manual transmission and dug is looking at volvo
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wagons i'm wrong and i apologize to everybody apologize to everybody yeah now it's it's based
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on the yeah it's based on the exige architecture underneath but i think this is so cool they're
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with a camry v6 but the thing that's one of the things there's a lot that stands out in the car
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but one of the things to me is that it has pop-up headlights which i think is fascinating because
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i thought those were not when you're only selling 25 cars and they're never going to see the road
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yeah if they if that can be done then i want to see when when your picture is a i you can
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have anything else right you got this guy looks like george flooney quite a bit yeah i think it's
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super cool i mean they never got to make the original runabout because it became x19 but
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they never made the right about and now they can make the runabout i actually think it looks
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almost cooler than the original they're making 25 but this isn't a news we're never gonna see these
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things there's also some for like was it conceco conceco what's it called the conciso conciso
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yeah there's a little bit of that in there too this we're never no one's ever going to see this car
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it's not a thing 25 units is it a manual uh yes six speed manual transmission damn i want one now
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pay the 390 euro sorry dollar's a little weak right now it's not going to be first be sold in the
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u.s the property of course xz is going to drive like it's going to tighten a little bit of a huge
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drive poorly no but it's like wow like you hear brittona you hear italian you want some leather
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you want some you want more you want a little more to it you want a little more car you want
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a little more quality we think but it goes in different ways well have you ever been in xz it's
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not that have you ever been in a fiat uno turbo no leather there no but like when i think of an
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italian sports car an xz is just like a buzzy little lightweight thing that was never italy's
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thing when it came to sports cars my fiat 500 bar cabriolet begs different that's not a sports car
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first off a sports car by definition is rear wheel drive or all wheel drive i mean the honda prelude
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begs different yeah dude yeah there's a real sports car twice like what the wx si i'm looking at
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different or all the drive that's not a sports car a sports car by definition two doors two doors
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that's trump trump right he's not wrong a sports car is a two door rear wheel drive but but
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increasingly i'll accept all wheel drive because manufacturers have gone there but a sports car
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needs to be two doors and rear or all wheel drive that's what's out of the sport car not sports car
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it's always right it's available from a drive yeah the front wheel drive one is a is a golf
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wearing a dress the the yep and this is the wx si is a performance car oh well this is a sports car
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and it looks delightful it doesn't have to be comfortable uh anyway it's show it's in 25 units
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this is a news story like does anybody care about this if you care about this we talked about one
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of one car and the bubble wagons which they're gonna sell 2000 we haven't actually covered any news
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today it's like relevant to anybody x9 would sell the x9 would sell but they're not gonna make
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so that's zero well i'm into this and george cluney's time into it too i think it's cool
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our show and let them know that we sent you this is the biggest news of the week truck walla which
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is a racetrack in the middle of nowhere is apparently for sale for 26 million dollars
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i'll tell you this five 26 million i would buy that bucati twice like walla two and a half times
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i wouldn't need two of them i would only need one because you can only drive one car at a time
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and so truck also show and i saw the drive posted this you know the drive over there i'm familiar
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yeah they post this on their instagram and i was reading the comments and the comments were all like
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oh god another racetrack is going to be ripped from our hands oh no developers are coming for a
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racetrack folks i'm be honest with you developers aren't coming for this okay it's way too there's
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nothing near there but you you've ever been to truck walla you'll know why this will only ever
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be a racetrack right you pass nowhere and you keep going but no one's living here this this is like
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good as it gets for about 500 miles by the way it does include the airport and the airports
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include in the sale by airport i want to be clear there's a runway there's a runway it's a long
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flat piece of unimproved pavement which you probably can't land a real airplane at apparently
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it's a good condition good condition but i'm sure the desert sun will change that right okay so
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can you imagine weeding that runway out there no like the amount of amount of what is it called
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like it's the raid away you're probably not probably in california it's been wrapped up for
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rounder yeah they go to arizona they get like they have gear just real size
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that's where you buy right exactly right uh or uh well this is well this is that we've been out
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you and i've been to chuck walla you guys you've been a couple times we did a track video on it
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we saw nick right here in this corner spin out and almost going to the wall
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by the way this is just a picture there's an actual race track if you're a potential buyer
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don't worry it's not just a parking lot tire thing there's a real race track we should talk
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about why this might actually be somewhat notable i don't think it's notable at all someone else is
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going to buy it it's going to be great okay so the concern is willow springs got bought by
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private equity and it's going to be great the concern is that the price per track day the
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price per rental has reportedly double tripled in the time they've owned it willow yeah which is
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reasonable because well they wanted to make money all the more reason all the more reason to buy
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chuck walla willows three times as expensive to attract a then start advertising all the willow
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people get them down here so there are some concerns that whoever buys it will want to
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modernize it maybe they'll want to make it safe maybe they'll want to have food maybe they'll
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want to have bathrooms i don't know they may want to do crazy things to make livable and
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then it'll be expensive and we will be out of reach for people in LA
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or anywhere else it could be improved could be improved like the thing about chuck walla i love
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it dearly and it's great and some of my greatest memories of chuck walla in addition to the track
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day when we rented it out for a private track day for just us yeah video i also chuck walla was
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where we did the strato launch and that changed my life you know i was at the strato launch and one
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of the pr people comes up to me and it's a woman and she says hey nice to meet you and i you know
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people always come up between these things like oh and then you know and she says hey you know
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as she goes uh my dad has a career gt i'm like wow most people are like oh i got a miata yeah
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yeah yeah i'm like oh my god i still remember that it's never happened before um regardless
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it's for sale i hope that something cool happens with it and doesn't make it what's gonna happen
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it's gonna still be a racetrack i agree that it's still be a racetrack out of reach however when
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we went out there for our track day we had to stay in palm springs which was like two hours away
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yeah and wake up at five in order to drive out there and get there for the call time i drive back
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yeah and then it's like was like six hours back we all went in my station right because none of us
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wanted to drive that far in any of our sports cars it's far it's far but i there's obviously
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some concern like thermal is members only now like there's concerns become not attract the
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there is no situation in which people will pay for private memberships no not out there to this
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facility well if you live in palm springs it's only two hours yeah but thermal is right there
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and i don't even think that this is dramatically further out than um willow is like they're all
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out there for san diego this is this is a good track if you live in blithe it's nearby if you're
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in blithe and you have a chimera you they do have a drag strip the the airport serves as a drag
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really i don't know that they have staging lanes for that's how they keep a quarter mile yeah
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shan shan we gotta get out here we gotta rent this place out what the hell we're running this
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place out folks it's not selling before we gotta run it up now our beloved track is going away
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we're gonna build condos we're gonna build condos assuming they can have sewers reach there assuming
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they can build it the irony is the idea of them building condos if you wanted to build condos you
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you'd buy the plot of land next door which is undeveloped and free it is literally free
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yeah uh lake tomart lake tamarisk all right next news story please
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ah yeah speaking of tracks so there is a sale right now there's a dealer believe in the uk that
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has these two cars a downdraft maimbergini conchesa 5000 qv and this this is the lotus type
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102 f1 car race in the 1990s 1990 specifically and what's notable about it is that it's powered
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by a lamborghini v 12 now which one so it's which v 12 le 35 le 3512 which stands for lamborghini
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engineering 3.5 liter v 12 so the le 35 12 lamborghini engine 3.5 v 12 engineering i think that
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it stands for we're still trying to figure out what lmo 2 stands for right no but it's
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just lmo that's all it stands for um but the reason i bring this up i mean it's a very it's
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it's very cool this to be clear the engine this one car was terrible it had zero wins it had zero
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pole positions it had one podium in its history not a good engine however one podium is real
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right it's bad it was a bad engine but my point with this is that you have often incorrectly
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asserted that the career gt has a formula one engine which it does not because it was never
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in a formula one car however this engine which is slightly related to the kuntosh's v 12 was
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a formula one car and so you know what very big you know what i get out of this yeah you know what
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i get out of this they added a couple leaders leader in half here's what i've learned um here's what
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i've learned my career gt has a formula one engine it does not sure now we know that my
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kuntosh also has a formula one engine wow it does the other formula one engine in our group
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nix p 38 has a formula one engine our friend nick roshan was a p 38 range over the here okay here's
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this tie in if i ever have you heard this right thankfully i've not all right here's the deal
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the land rover v8 of that era was derived from a general motors v8 that was produced between 1953
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and 1981 it was the buick v8 and that was sort of derived that was how land rover got its v8
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now smarter than to use one from the 60s that would list gets it for 20 years and then make it
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unreliable yeah somehow they managed to screw it up but the rover v8 was based on this gm v8
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also based on this gm v8 was australian formula one team rep co uh they they used the old
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mobile the vehicles will be able to v8 uh it was in a brabham vehicle brabham no one cares
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and it won the 1966 formula one world championship with the buick v8 and i had it that engine in
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my yellow land rover defender so i would argue i i've had three formula one engine i don't argue
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that the career gt is not a formula one engine you have a failed formula one engine in your
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Lamborghini and nick is the only one who's won a world championship with his engine wait a minute
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what do you mean failed they had a podium you said they had a podium yeah of the 80 races it
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entered it only had 49 successful starts that's pretty oh start i didn't say they started before
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635 percent of their races the engine is interesting though i just believe it or not
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lamborghini had a handshake deal with mclaren to test this engine and senna actually drove her car
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powered by this engine wow liked it he made some suggestions he said that he wanted a less brutal
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top and a fatter midrange um but ultimately the engine was just not reliable and ronda
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rondas decided to go with the pujo v10 according to reports senna even wanted to race the engine
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at the japanese grand prix believing that well reliability might be a problem according to
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mclaren's engineers they the most they got out of any powertrain before uh failure was just 19 laps
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at silverstone yeah exactly uh it described it as a lot of a lot of sound not a lot of go
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i think was the end that's the coontosh and that is the coot so it all was like it's all perfect
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and i do like that the coontosh is finished in the same livery as the car does it bother you
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do we agree that they're using models for those these are not real no no they're the pictures
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are these pictures look like models i agree something about the coontosh looks too small yeah
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does it bother you i agree with you does it bother you that i have all these four cars with
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formula one engines um no doesn't that doesn't bother you no you ever watch an f1 race probably
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as a kid probably in Italy oh well you're at month but my my uncle who lived about a mile away from
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the month of circuit uh would watch them every time they were on every sunday whenever it was
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that they're on who knows whenever they're on that's like moto gp so you you get exposed well moto gp
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too you get exposed in italy to racing you know i've i've biked over the f1 track that's cool
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here's something i didn't know that when could the konigsig ccr set the world fastest production
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car record in 2005 it was using a version of the ford modular i was wondering where we're
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going to get here which is the engine in the ford gt and it broke the record from the mclaren f1
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which was a lesser car so i would argue that my my vehicles the fastest the formula one is
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whatever makes you sleep better at night babe i'm surprised it took that long to get
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to the module of v8 because surely that's been used in like stock car racing and NASCAR like i'm
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sure it's that has other uses in america i think that by the time those kind of engines were out
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you couldn't put engines like that in racing cars like they were there was different stuff going on
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nonetheless uh nonetheless still uh i still have all of the great engines you know you could buy a
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formula one car and actually have the engine turns out you get both of these well you formula
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one cars aren't that expensive right trash formula one cars from like the 80s are probably pretty
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cheap i wouldn't i'm gonna use them yeah well i feel use them i mean people put an ls in a formula
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we got any more news yeah you have one more uh whistlin was arrested again speaking of putting
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engines of formula one cars he bought that formula one car that's right oh my god whistlin my hero
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oh he was apparently arrested at the airport i seen coming back from dubai
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and at bna you think they arrested him yeah so what happens next i i apparently he was released
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on a bond about an hour later this was related again to the tax evasion on the montana plate
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thing his his instagram post was basically they still didn't send me a letter they had
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like an additional issue and so they send 20 agents to arrest me when i landed uh he's wearing
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a la hat which seems surprising yeah this is tough because um it's tough to hear about your hero
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getting arrested a second time a second time first time easy it it it who are your heroes
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it's it's exclusively cody that weiler no mine is cody who was your like who would you be sad about
31:38
harry maccalf harry imaginable harry got arrested that that it's be like that for you like he's too
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charming to get arrested to varish that'd be tragic tragic wouldn't be that surprise
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arrested big love ready love him uh okay let's move on to the talk car segment the talk car
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but ineffective um the lamborghini i i my talk car segment is only related to the lamborghini
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john tamarian i had it for a couple days as a press the temerario yeah the temerario that's
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what it's called yeah yeah they gave it to me as a press car how was it fine when when's the review
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coming out but i don't know all right great review thank you for it thank you for like
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i leveled down with something we did what we needed to do um i i will say i saw it in your garage
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yeah it's a big car it's big the temerario is almost a footy longer than the hurricane
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that's a large year like generation or generation now lamborghini's generations are
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ten years but if the x seven became a foot longer it's exactly what you want well no it'd be even
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it'd be too big it'd be like bigger than an escalate it's a foot longer than the hurricane
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it is 600 pounds heavier it's got a lot it and it is a thousand pounds heavier than some versions
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of the hurricane like the lightweights it is like three inches wider which is also pretty real in
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car width that's a lot car width is kind of gate kept at a certain width for regulatory purposes
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so it's really a much bigger car it's 20 inches longer than a kuntash it's kind of unfortunate
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because my god like i loved it and i love driving it but you kind of see
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you kind of see like car design is going in this way that i'm not like as an enthusiast of the kind
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of cars that i'm an enthusiast of i'm not that into right like the cars are getting bigger yeah
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some in part necessitated by adding plug-in hybrid and electric technology but then in
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order to overcome the weight difference that you've created you then have to add more power and so
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every subsequent car is way more powerful way heavier and way larger than the previous one
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and if the temerarios numbers i think from a percentage basis are probably up there with
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some of the largest increases over its previous model but there's been a lot of talk about the
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m5 same deal they add a plug-in hybrid system they add weight they add complexity well then they
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have to add power to make up for it and i was just driving the new 992 turbo and that car is the same
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sort of situation it's just getting bigger and bigger and bigger it's amazing driving that back
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back with my 993 turbo which despite the name is actually 30 years sooner and all these cars and
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they all do an incredible job of of engineering out the the issue with adding weight but they
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have to engineer it out the way that they did it back in the day was the car just didn't weigh
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that much so it felt tossable and now the cars still feel tossable but that's because there's
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enormous complexity in trying to overcome thousands of pounds and in extra inches and feet in some
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cases of extra size you know it's just a shame it's like kind of it's kind of sad if you like a car
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that is like a tossable fun but powerful car the modern stuff has left you behind period well i
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think it just draws more of an interest to the stuff that's slightly older i mean that car makes
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the garter look so svelte and like delicate comparatively and driving wise it's like when you
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drive a lot you can do a lot to hide the weight but ultimately driving a lightweight car just
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is so pure okay you can do a lot to hide the weight and they do an amazing job i agree but it just
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isn't the same by the way temorario four inches longer than murcia lago whoa that's nuts the
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place where that falls apart a little bit i was just looking this up and assuming you trust google's
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ai overview the karara t the 992 karat t is lighter than a base 997 karat t is such a great car but
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even though the 992 turbo s which has a hybrid component it's only 200 pounds more than the 997
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turbo this yeah but these grown that much only three inches longer and a little bit heavier so
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that yeah but the actual weight the actual weight of a 992 dot 2 turbo s is 38 29 so i was looking at
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dot one number okay well and it's that's an important distinction because the hybrid system is at it
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and that's part of my point all the cars we're sitting here talking about that are growing part
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of a reason that they've been growing so much in weight is because all three of the cars i just
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mentioned the m5 the temorario and the 992 have added hybrid componentry yep and in order to then
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counteract the hybrid componentry then you have to do this and that and you're just ended up you
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ended up with a 4 000 pound 9 11 and and a long 9 11 like the 99 it's it's it's it's gotten to
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180 inches long my little baby 993 is like what i want yeah but it doesn't exist they can't do it
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anymore yeah the driving a tossable car is like there's something really fun about just like a
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hydraulic at it there is relatively light tossable car that's why i took that car and then added a
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large glass roof right with a point so yeah just add weight up high do you want it add weight and
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all the drive that's what you need a 993 i would love a 993 but speaking of the 993 nice transition
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i recently got to spend a long time in a 993 i drove a thousand miles back from
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oregon in a 993 car 95 993 car being sold by a car by motor cars great seller on the
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site it's going to end up on cars in bids relatively soon i completely agree with everything that you've
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just said driving a lightweight simple car that i drove it over to the pch and carmel and drove
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from carmel down to cambria and then i got to do the drive i got to do the drive it's it's open for
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the one month of the next decade it'll be open exactly i haven't been able to do this in five years
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same i haven't done it since 17 it's it's wonderful i did a whole video on it's on my youtube channel
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i'm really proud of it i put a lot of like editing into it i had a lot of drone there's no drone i
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haven't gotten to that's that level of production already have a drone do i look like scrap man to
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you that man has a drone thanks and so does everybody kevin has a drone um but my point
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getting to drive it on those roads it's like this is everything i want it's small it's lightweight
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it's tactile it's analog it's simple it's relatively reliable it just did everything and it made me
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realize like those cars are worth a lot of money for a reason i know i deserve to be i've been making
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fun of my car for its its value but the more time i spend especially in modern yeah i'm just like
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you know there's something to this yeah there really is and like one of the things i talk about
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is just like i i know that air cool cars are a little bit more to take care of than some of some
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other cars but nonetheless it did it i turned the key drove a thing a thousand not one issue it
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just the car drove flawlessly and my car which is undergoing a significant service so i call them
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that it's gonna be another week um yeah nonetheless was driving just fine yeah we're just taking care
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of some leaks after 30 it's longevity you'll do that and it will the difference with those cars
39:42
is you put the money in and it lasts that's the beauty of those kind of old german cars but
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nonetheless it made me develop a real appreciation for the 993 like i and it just it as cars get
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bigger and heavier like you said it just that ear is really special can you describe the transition
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from the light tactile analog 993 to your SL65 which is a little opposite of all this because
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the career the 993 is not base prayer does that make you want to get out of the SL65 i mean i know
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you're gonna get out of the S65 anyway but does that make you want to get out of it and get into
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something that's a little bit tighter littler honestly uh yes i i now that said you know you
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could do the german-clarke chain thing where you say well if you lived in a gorge in southwest
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france then yes you want the lightweight nimble thing but most people don't and the reality of
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this is like around here unfortunately the way you'll use a lot of cars is on highways like to
40:28
get to good driving roads takes effort and the really tight twisty stuff is like an hour and a
40:32
half away realistic it's an hour away 45 how long mountains an hour that's an hour and it's snowing
40:37
right now so you can't do it anyway or maybe you can i would but it made me appreciate that
40:41
93 turbo i have to say the 993 i would really love to have one of those cars in my garage
40:47
because i there's a classic you can use every day if you want to we really are a Porsche
40:51
podcast i know i hate to say it i'm gonna i'm gonna make a promise to you right here and right now
40:55
on this podcast today i will not buy another Porsche that's such an easy promise to make
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maybe a 996 gt2 one day or but i will not buy another Porsche or 911st 911st or i'm not interested
41:08
i'm not going to buy a 911st i'm not spending 600 on that crap it's a cool car it's not 600
41:12
i you i can't even explain to you the number of cars i would rather have before i put it on
41:16
it's a great car i will not buy another Porsche i'm saying it to you here i am committing to you
41:22
that i am leaving Porsche guide them behind with just two of them in your garage well i got seven
41:29
dude you know what you know what hit me are you seven you know what i've got are you up to seven
41:33
you know what i've had more cars more more than Porsche that had more toyotas i've had more toyotas
41:38
i had a gen one Prius never forget that i got about the gen i had an 80 series i had a 200 series
41:42
i have a sequoia i had some sort of lexus because we're not counting the Porsche corporate cars
41:49
well those weren't mine i would they would have been nice they were rentals in the meantime for
41:54
six months it weren't my what am i supposed to do i mean i can't i'm gonna buy three in the next
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year he's gonna buy 993 he's gonna buy kyan turbo if he'll buy a macan turbo honestly if i had the
42:02
money right now this this car wouldn't even end up on cars and fits i would just buy it it's so
42:06
lovely i am ripped apart to hear this we cannot be a Porsche podcast spikes already gotta let
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him figure it out i am promising you here today except for the 996 gt2 i will not buy another
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Porsche i'm not saying ever but i'm kind of saying ever i won't have him appeal to me i'm not sitting
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here looking at 911 ours a little appeal i've still never owned one to be clear i've only owned
42:29
bmw's for one Ferrari in a Mercedes so like i still haven't owned like i feel very lucky but i
42:34
still haven't owned a Porsche i would like to and they're books that i would like to experience
42:38
but there are other cars i still love to i just think that like that one deserves a spot in my
42:42
garage jealous of that experience it was wonderful it's a highway part it's a thousand miles fine
42:46
it did fine it is definitely nvh has changed a lot in the 90s it was it's still loud and buzzy
42:52
which i didn't really mind i had you know i i you wear a pot at this point i had air pods in
42:56
exact i didn't have them muted but i had like just music on that way and um but yeah it just
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just driving it through carmel and just almost twisty roads it was so perfect it was so great
43:05
i'm jealous it's a nice car it's a it's a great shifter clutch it's uh it's really
43:10
tossable very predictable car Porsche had done a great job of developing the 911 and then that
43:16
car was like the ultimate refinement of the original absolutely with a lot of stuff that they
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had learned but the multi-link suspension made a big difference on that car it just
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is so much more sure like Filippo's car as much as i love it the 997 definitely has more of a
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we could own filipo yeah i he did a thousand miles in a 993 i did a thousand miles in a pacific
44:59
hybrid and honestly it was great 30 over 30 miles per gallon across that drive it's a drive i do
45:05
often i get like 25 in the wagon 35 in the gti and i had a huge china cabinet in the back
45:11
got 30 miles forgot it was delightful it's a shame nobody can own one because they're
45:16
problematic i don't understand i had two two issues for you such a car issue number one um
45:22
what do you mean it's not ownable you did a thousand miles that's pretty good they have a bit
45:25
of a reputation for having yeah but a thousand miles i do any problems how how what do you take
45:29
it to the dealer every thousand miles you did you got a thousand miles done boom probably maybe i
45:34
will own one i love the pacific hybrid so good yeah plug it man plug it you like how it looks
45:38
i actually do think it's a good looking minivan it's the best looking of the minivan and it's
45:41
a comfortable enough and quiet enough and carplay works at least 70 percent of the time and you
45:46
connect this works 70-ish percent of the time too we're good chrisler it's such a shame chrisler
45:51
makes a bad car but it's such a good car i know also it's no longer sold what oh yeah they no longer
45:57
sold they got rid of all their plugins it's that uh by the way i was driving the pacific
46:01
hybrid to pick up a china cabinet but also to go to our event in scotsdale and i think wait
46:06
pictures i'm not done i want to ask another pacific a hybrid question you on this very podcast
46:12
said that you were going to drive that pickup truck and the china cabinet back from arizona
46:17
with a u-haul look what happened look some things happened that i thought i could get the truck
46:21
started and load it onto the trailer i couldn't also the trailer's a little bit too short i didn't
46:25
end up running it i did i when i had come all of these things were said to you what i had committed
46:30
last week uh was that i was i was trying to hire a shipper to do it and what happened uh it turns
46:36
out very few people want to go to northern arizona okay so you're gonna you're gonna get a non-op truck
46:40
you're gonna get the truck running in arizona i'll do something about you're not gonna think
46:45
about it right now have you considered the problem will be solved in the next week just yeah have you
46:49
considered getting an fkp homage no i saw that news decided don't care i'm gonna just keep putting
46:57
starter fluid in this car so so so you got it how worked you haven't got it running or you
47:03
have got it running i could get started but going further than that required more than i could do
47:08
in the back driveway in rural arizona didn't you tell me there was a timing issue the timing isn't
47:14
fully set but it's close enough i think that it would that would not be the only blocker to
47:18
running i can't get fuel in like fuel isn't going through a carb i imagine you clean the
47:23
carb and maybe they'll work it's i'm not a professional i don't know how to do anything i
47:27
called our co-worker colton who is a who's one of our auction managers and was a mechanic
47:31
and i called him and he guided me through some early steps and then i ran out of ability
47:37
tools and it was sudden it was before you said that our producer was just shaking his
47:41
we all knew that all of this was gonna happen i had given up on the u-haul plan and i had put it
47:46
out to get a shipper to do it uh and it was just really hard to find somebody to do it what a struggle
47:51
so you still don't have anybody to do it no okay uh if you live in northern arizona and you have a
47:57
flat uh flatbed trailer or a flatbed tow truck and you want to haul something from northern arizona
48:03
to san diego send us an email sean at cars and bids dot com that's s e a n at cars and bids dot com
48:10
and felipa will pay you how much we pay we'll see felipa will pay you twenty six hundred no
48:19
pay you ten percent below market rate market rate well you just said you can't find it but
48:25
to do it so market rate is whatever the even at market rate it's real hard okay tell us about the
48:30
event you went to an event did you go to mickey's i did not go to mickey's i think we have something
48:34
to slide did anybody ask you to go to mickey's with them nobody asked me to go to mickey's but
48:39
i did start in a guy who has a youtube channel about a sob 900 i did like a pretty long interview
48:46
about sob with him in the parking lot so what kind of stuff did you say did you get into your
48:51
favorite sob the 97x i saw my favorite sob really what i'm a pre-gm sob guy really you're gonna
48:57
you're gonna be a priest he was there in a sob 900 an og sub 900 not an ng sub 900 obviously
49:03
that he had manual swapped because it's not hard well we're all manuals you have surprised
49:09
you see found an automatic but cool guy uh so we talked about the history of sob one of the cars
49:13
showed up give me some cars all right so the event that we were at was in collaboration with
49:17
avance and the warehouse uh and inside there were a bunch of gray cars scp euro brought a couple of
49:22
cars uh but but tim from from bbi out of sports brought a couple of his cars there were a bunch
49:27
of other really really cool cars including a series one e type uh but then outside the in the parking
49:32
lot there were some real cars i expected a cl3 cl type s six speed no not that real there there was
49:39
like a Bentley unadier mm-hmm no like an Audi q7 v12 sadly no but there were a lot of gc3s
49:48
like a front-wheel drive loader salon no that we have one of those here in the office like a
49:55
mazda navajo no we did have a v across them that's the navajo of the next generation there were
50:01
truly the parking lot became a little bit more of a car show than i than i thought it would be
50:05
i guess it makes sense people that are coming to a car van go on to the lot and like crack open a
50:09
beer and say oh look at this jeep grand Cherokee freedom edition there were like a lot of really
50:18
really nice cars in the parking lot two police officers from the mesa police department stopped
50:22
by so one guy pulled up and i thought he was gonna kind of be a little upset by people blocking
50:27
traffic turned into a lot but no he just pulled over came out and wanted to talk about the cars
50:31
in the parking lot and then go inside and check them out what is that buddy what was his personal
50:34
car an infinity j-30t i didn't ask him i should have though yeah i should have yeah the guy who
50:40
was there was a guy that was assigned by the warehouse there's like a really cool artist car
50:44
space uh that was directing traffic in the parking lot and he had a Ford Mustang gt
50:49
hmm did a Volkswagen carato s lc show up sadly what about a g 60 carato g 60 yeah no
50:57
boy all the cars i want to see they were legitimately like the vent inside was absolutely
51:02
incredible some really cool car really cool people and the parking lot was surprisingly like
51:07
strong as a showing nice that's there was a nice alarm clear in there
51:12
in the pacific hybrid did it have a function it had sultanary was functioning at the time um
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apparently not can it can you tell us about the dino situation uh yes so i have a video that's
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going to be coming out next week on my s l 65 i took it for a dino test which is really cool
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and my car had rent tech badges with hang on a dino is a machine that measures horsepower or a large
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prehistoric creature but this one's but the spelling is different and it's pronounced dino
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in your language but i took my dino sauro so yeah so anyway i um i want to i was curious
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because i've been told the car has a rent tech tune on it but i have no i have documentation
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for everything else i have no documentation verifying that it was added when it was added
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or what was added do you have documentation for the badges no nothing related to rent it
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it also has the lowering module allegedly but i'm too afraid to mess with that but um
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so i was curious what it what power is making so i took it to a dino test and i'll reveal more
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there but the the biggest show i ran into was that the speed that has the speed governor on it
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still so at a hundred and but it's not supposed to the rent text it's not supposed to but the numbers
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are confused i get into it more in the video it's like do like a special sequence in the keypad in
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the center dash to enter rent tech mode that would have been a good idea had they done that but
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they didn't you know i um yeah i've never i've never i know it's a pretty good point i've never
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dinoed an auto car so yeah well i mean it has a manual mode you want to get to where the the
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gearing is one to one which is fourth gear and so you slowly build up to that and then you go for it
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the one thing i will say that was interesting you see in the videos there's a guy who had to sit on
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the back of it because the car doesn't have enough weight over the rear tires and just spins him on
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the dyno that's what aero is for you know that car famously doesn't have well especially not when
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it's not moving right that makes it harder once it starts moving though he can get off i assume
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the guy stayed on the back of the car the entire time but it was a really cool experience i've never
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done a dyno before i am kind of curious now what the m5 is making so i might do a video on that
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yeah and that will be easy to do with the man it's uh kind of sketch and my car does not my m5
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does not have a speed limit it is a little sketch because the car is doing about 160 miles an hour
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sitting still and you're like them wheels are spinning quick and it's loud and it's and it's
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it feels like it feels like some turbine is spinning at some speed where even a little faster
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and some thing is going to explode and you have there are videos on the internet of dyno is exploding
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seen in many times or cars exploding and they they even told me it's like yeah you can film everything
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just stand over here so if something does go it's going to go past your head and i'm going to get
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pregnant um but i'm excited to watch this it was yeah it was very interesting i have to say so
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yep that video goes up on tuesday of next week so on mckinnon rolls on youtube yes on the youtube
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okay we got to go to mark report mark reporters course is brought to you by cars and bids the
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single finest auction platform in the history of auction platform yeah yeah take that uh i don't
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okay well said really stuck it to the man uh i want to talk about the allero can you pull up
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the allero this is this is something with allero yeah well i got a point to make here we just sold
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an allero i think today uh for 4100 bucks this is five thousand three hundred five thousand miles
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oh the survivor era is gone that's the thing everybody's like oh that's such a cool survivor
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car there's no market for them not anymore no one is actually looking for a base model
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even if it has five thousand original miles it is just not all that appealing to people and i
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continue to see this with survivor cars and some of me actually wonders like if you're just looking
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for a used car that will run why not buy a survivor on cars and bids like presumably this has
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another 10 years left in it 15 years left in it and you just spent four grand
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this is better than any civic you're gonna find on craigslist am i wrong
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it's not a bad car to buy except for the fact that it was a bad car to buy yeah sure but like
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for 4100 bucks if you just want a car to get you to work that everything is like all the rubber
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presumably that hasn't oh you know what everybody says this i used to say this but i've driven some
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low mileage cars and have it in no leaks and no issues and no nothing this is like
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old mobile look i under this is a 3100 isn't it is it a 30 yeah i think it's oh 2.4 that's
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probably why it's so low i have heard this argument 3100 would have been 20 grand i understand by
55:26
design it might have some leaks because it was badly engineered but like i'm i haven't run into
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this like all the rubber shrinks and at least problem that people talk about a lot more on
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low mileage cars all right fair there was a brief period of time go to mechanical photos
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we'll see we'll take a look at the rubber we'll take a look at the rubber we'll assess it right
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now i think there was a break when it could have been clean clean yeah it's a 5000 mile car
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there is not a single gm 2.4 liter that still looks like this normally the alternators are
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completely rusty or caked with salt oh they replace the oil and filter good that's all you need
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oil and go this car like every allero is going to make it to 60 70 000 miles before the transmission
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fails i think you're going to be just fine man that car got to 5000 miles they had a 5000
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mile service in february of 2020 excuse me 2003 they drove 3000 miles in the three years
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and zero so where is it where in florida man that's so florida uh i just think survivor cars are
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a bargain i truly believe this for $4100 you cannot buy a civic or corolla like it doesn't exist it's
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ratty car or you can go buy an undriven allero and in all honesty the gm cars this era were pretty
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reliable they truly were gm had kind of worked the stuff out it was a pretty it was not a good
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car dynamically it was bad the tech is not good but i bet you this car if you wanted to date start
56:47
dailying it today could last you longer than any equivalent $4100 car you could buy it's a very
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and that's true of a lot of survivor cars that we sell there's just no market it's a gm product so
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ac is probably pretty good okay okay well that was interesting thank you for that thank you so much
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that is a reputation only correct thing all right move on to uh i want to talk about the nsx and
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then the amirah situation let's talk nsx yeah we sold the nsx that's right behind you behind me uh for
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$80,567 that's 321,000 miles just about uh that's off to ryan for taking these pictures
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photos look great the you did a really great night drive video in it you get a review of it
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321,001 owner miles and it got all the money now part of it is we did a top end rebuild
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that helped certainly but you know the person i spoke with the the buyer obviously were arranging
57:39
when they'll come pick it up uh he didn't look at the service documentation he just wanted the car
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damn he got a great car then he got lucky he was like does it need any work look at the service
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we made this guy uh we because we were selling alongside coinbase put in a lot of money to make
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sure it was perfect for the next buyer yeah so we lost all through lost money but obviously every
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other reasonable human that would have purchased it would have made a little bit especially the next
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yeah but it's such an incredible car i'm kind of jealous you the i saw the buyer comment that
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i'm taking this to 500,000 yeah he he also has an avor gt that is the same colorway memory serves
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colorway red black damn i'm here for that oh that was let's let's that by the way was previously
58:29
jlm's press car hit signed by jlm colorway instead of spec i live in the i live in the watch world
58:34
i'm already used to yeah he's getting there that thing looks so good there look at that
58:37
that is a really cool look it's such a good car it's sad to see it just turn around it's
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literally i know but that photo this is why you got to take good photos because i see it sitting
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there i'm like that's pretty cool then i look at that photo and i'm like damn i want that i like
58:50
that but i want that exactly like i said on my tombstone it will say here lies ken and he asked
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for better pictures so that thing was a big sale uh i was really happy to see that also because of
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our nsx love recently we've had a bunch more nsx has come on the site a couple live right now
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there's like there's two live right now that couldn't be more different it's literally the
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opposite of the nsx world one is a late model stick and the other one is a early year your tip
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both are appealing cars though this car at 42 is pretty appealing like get in and drive it as a
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commuter it can do 320 000 miles that's an interesting point that's an interesting point
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like i think this car is cool as hell well you also have to imagine whoever buys it's to be manual
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swapped immediately maybe yeah you don't have to deal with the snap ring thing on this 91 tip
59:37
nice you're all good folks you should come in the auction be like does it have snap ring can i
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say about the the buyer of the one that we just sold he also he told me on the phone that he has
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a z31 and a z32 oh wow z31 wow wow right he has a he has an an fdr7 damn he's doing that he's got
00:01
he's a 90s man as a questionable choice this guy has a taste but he's got a taste he's a 90s
00:06
guy get him get him into a mega dude a mega cruiser would work he did say he has an enius
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grandeur so maybe a mega is like a upgrade enius grandeur is like a mega for people who aren't
00:15
ready i mean i i mean aren't ready to aren't ready to not be able to do the speed limit
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i drove the speed limit at a mega it has a 90 downhill with wind it was it was a lower speed
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road yeah that's right you did it but remember the guy who bought the mega that i reviewed drove
00:32
it from denver to seattle yeah just because he did it didn't mean it was fun or enjoyable i think
00:37
about that like pretty often i thought about it yesterday just like he came into my mind that
00:41
guy drove that mega from denver to seattle how far into that drive do you think he was in he was
00:44
like oh man i've made a mistake should have shipped this thing he's a little tent when he was in
00:49
okay the other thing we're talking about is ameiros can you hit me with an ameira yeah all right
00:53
ameiros ameira 85 grand is what an ameira is just regardless of how you spell it 85 grand that
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is what a manual ameira is they're all between 85 and here's a here's an interesting lotus that's
01:05
too much thought okay keep on the company has been in bankruptcy or near it since i've been alive
01:11
the cars all are incredibly desirable i know how does it retain their values obviously msrp was
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higher msrp was in the low 100 sorry this for this specific car that one that sold for 86
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msrp was 96 so they've lost a little bit they're not above mark crazy or above
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figure that this car is gonna i really wanted it too because i really want an ameira yeah i also
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none of them are selling for no the chews only was an automatic that that failed to sell at 82
01:38
which honestly seems like i just i mean well part of it is i think it is a really good car it is
01:43
everybody fourth on there that should have sold yeah that should have everybody i have talked to
01:48
who has one loves it yes they're good and like i genuinely think they're good car so i think the
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market is clearly speaking like they are desirable yeah it's weird because then why do we always hear
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that lotus is going out of business gone out of business dying the company poorly manages its
02:03
finances the product is good but how they spend their money it's so funny even avoras hold their
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value like no it's really annoying for gt's and avora 400s which are the ones you want are too
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expensive i want any avora and they're all that's a zuki every sorry i don't know i take that off
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a two plus two or an s uh which were the early ones are in the 40s and 50s that's real money though
02:27
a gtman 70 this is more money than a cayman from this era an 11 cayman is yeah 43 thousand dollars
02:33
they've retained their value too well it's really annoying as somebody that wants a cheap one just
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43 thousand i think it's because they're just like decent but especially the gt and the 400s are that
02:43
looks so valuable that was a wrap yeah i love that but i didn't they do that that's cool that should be
02:48
oe lotus's hold their values lotus is exactly of course for the esprit elitra that has an oldest
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value new actually that's going to hold this value pretty well based relative to the transaction
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price there's a 250 sticker but they're going to transact at 80 they can't because lotus has
03:05
to pay 125 grand in tariffs to import it it's going to be tough for them to sell it it is crazy
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expensive i do think that a huge part of why these cars hold their values so well is the
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toyota powertrains or in the case of the amira it's a toyota powertrain or a mercedes one right
03:20
um depending on which version you get competent real sports cars but even by your definition
03:24
from earlier they're real sports car they all look very exotic yeah this is not my definition
03:29
like i just made it up a sports car is two doors rear or all-wheel drive and in my opinion it should
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be two seats should be two seats should not sports car should be two seats should be rear
03:42
wheel drive but i make exceptions when i need to on the all-wheel drive and on the two plus two
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but they all have two doors there is no three-door sports car sorry rx8
03:55
every dodge challenger v6 sports car no i didn't say every uh i didn't say every just to be that
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to be that it has to be that doesn't mean that why isn't a v6 challenger sports car it's not a
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sports car why because listen philippo i know when i see you okay you're helpful why don't you go
04:13
car by car i'll tell you what's a sport car what's not all right it's not this is like a bad idea
04:18
we're here we're going to get emails park is back to the mgs okay those were sports cars they were
04:23
two-seat two-door rear-wheel drive that was a sports car now we've expanded the definition a little
04:27
bit over the years every car basically was rear-wheel drive and were they two seat in two doors
04:33
many were many were like mgs and they were convertibles you know i at some point had a purest
04:39
definition of what if sports car should even be a convert it had to be a convertible but i've let
04:43
that go even though i still think that preferably a sports car has an open roof really the miata is
04:48
lots of the roof is off on any of your cars what do you mean 4 gt every week uh all right
04:55
ken and speaking market port what do you got uh yes so i recently did another video on the cars
04:59
and vids youtube channel on this jaguar xk 140 the one now this is an s e which is very special
05:05
so the s e sensor special equipment uh in the u s they're all called something slightly different
05:09
but this one was actually called an s e but the big thing this one got is got the jaguar c type
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head which is very desirable the way you can tell it's got the c type has this right in the middle
05:17
it has a c that's cast it they're all red at the end there's also some markings on it that shows
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that it's got a c yeah i took a picture of it it's in here somewhere but this car i was shocked i have
05:29
almost completely ignored cars in the 1950s because i don't know there's not like particularly
05:33
interesting to me then i drove it and i'm like this is such an experience there is it is so raw
05:40
but and it's just so beautiful and so fun and it's like i understand that like and i say this in
05:45
the video i understand that like modern younger enthusiasts like i mean from financial constraints
05:50
alone like having one car is enough having two is kind of like untenable for a lot of you and i
05:54
totally get that i only own four cars right now but if you have a little bit more money right exactly
05:58
i'm fleet was rich over here but if you if you have a lot of if you have more room in the garage
06:02
and a little bit more money to spend this offers an experience like nothing else and i think that
06:06
these are relative bargains given how cool they are i think it's one of those beautiful cars it's
06:09
historically important it was fun to drive it's relatively quick and it just i was shocked at
06:15
how much i enjoyed it good cars i also kind of turned my back on a lot of 50 60 stuff but good
06:20
cars in the air are really good yeah a gold wing is like a really good car i still haven't driven
06:24
one so i can't say but it's the same kind of idea like cars that were good that were well engineered
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are good they may not be as usable like the Daytona that was a special like that these there
06:35
there are cars in that era that i now even look at and think should i yeah if it has really the
06:40
coontosh opened our eyes to the older cars true no one in our friend group had a car that old or
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even close to that old until i got the coontosh or would have even considered but now it's like i
06:49
look at and then it's like well if i'm already dealing with carbs you know yeah what else should
06:53
i you know how it hasn't been so bad like what else is out there and then you start thinking
06:57
about Daytona's then you start thinking about these then you start thinking about dino's on
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that the e-type that you recently did a video like that car i was shocked at how nice that car drove
07:06
like they really it also underscored at one point jag was making some of the best cars in the world
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yeah they really were because they won them all in 1951 and 1953 with the c-type this car was one
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of the fastest cars on the planet it was just like so far ahead of its time yeah my favorite thing and
07:23
this is likely to talk about this car forever in the 1950s jag was really into setting speed records
07:28
they really wanted to like prove that the cars were durable reliable and fast and one of the
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things they did with an with an xk was they took it and a guy had driven it for i think it was a
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100 miles an hour over 100 miles an hour for 24 hours only stopping to change the the driver
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like they changed it and one of the drivers got and said this car is so salty you can do this for
07:45
a week and so jag was like you know what let's do it and so they did exactly that and they drove one
07:49
for it an entire week uh and i think at one point it had suspensions but they just kept going
07:55
and it's it's it's 17 000 miles but it was constantly running for a week only stopping for fuel
08:01
and to change drivers that was it wild yeah now when we think jag it's like reliably doesn't
08:07
like is not but at the time it was like and this should have been the e-type was great
08:12
and if only they continued that upward trajectory but they lost the plot somewhere after the xj220
08:18
like i think after the xj220 they definitely lost the plot late in the e-type i think the
08:22
for me i think it was the xjs is where the xjs came out it was it was kind of the beginning
08:27
of the infrared work but i've been a lot of political change i mean that there was a fuel
08:31
shortage that life was different definitely but i can recognize that the the uh the xj220 and like
08:37
the xj are 15 are very special really incredible automobiles as is the xe project eight yes harry
08:44
matt kaff but i think but this to me was just such an experience and a lot of people commented
08:50
it's finally nice to see kind of review from his era which i yeah i don't disagree i'm glad you
08:57
liked it so much i totally agree i think that really well done cars from this era uh are do really
09:02
are surprisingly enjoyable it's an era that i had completely cast aside until i actually drove some
09:07
well done cars from this era and you remember people drove these yeah like around like it's
09:11
now it's looked at as such an imposition to drive an old smelly car but actually these were people
09:16
drove them like it was doable and you could do it again if you care this is my uncle's first car
09:19
was an xk1 really which was having driven i was like i don't know how the hell he drove that every
09:23
day nice yeah well uncle chuck he's he's a killer but yeah go check out this auction go watch the
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video and uh this is also from car by motor cars another great seller so all right we got to move
09:32
on to questions questions questions folks we had great questions this week and you too can ask us
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10:02
Sean's coming to kill us uh first question from big boy car lover big boy car lover
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douglas you take pride in having owned a wide range of vehicles but there is something you've
10:13
never had a pickup truck if you had to buy a truck older new to go with your current fleet
10:19
what would you get i want to be clear i is it is it true that i'm in a pickup truck that might be
10:23
true but i had a Hummer wagon yeah but you know guys in pickup trucks are driving a Rolls Royce
10:33
compared to that thing what would you have you'd have a ridge line oh we forgot to talk about the
10:37
ridge line um no i would never in my life ever consider a Honda ridge line what about a Subaru
10:43
Baja what about brat no what about a Hyundai um Toyota trucks i i sometimes think about
10:50
a four or Tacoma four i like the new frontier kind of i like a small mid-sized kind of Japanese
10:56
truck i like the new frontiers great i'm not i don't need a big trial like i can't justify or
11:01
need a big i like the ranger a lot the new one and the ranger is good the one that came out in
11:05
nineteen and well the one that came out of nineteen really came out of like 2012 yeah but
11:10
that was a great truck yeah it was a great power came out that turbo four was a great engine diesel
11:15
colorado i don't know Chevy's the Chevy trucks have never been as appealing wow you're a Ford
11:20
man Dodge Dakota I mean he's a Toyota man for dodge yeah i would get a Toyota convertible uh no
11:30
no no the fleet was genuinely upset about this i've never seen him so pull up the Dodge Dakota
11:34
convertible if i would if i had to buy any of the full-size trucks yeah i'd probably get an f150
11:39
over over a Silverado yeah who wouldn't and and i would probably get a ram over both of them if
11:43
it wasn't we've wasn't so many yeah i don't know yeah a ram is the ram shall be Dakota is a different
11:48
situation that's that's legit you know one thing that is never really appealed to me has been um
11:54
the pride performance trucks like i've never like nick wants a ram srt-10 rath or trx i like all those
12:00
it's not you never really been into like the concept of actually going your your SUVs have
12:05
camel fenders but you're not that generic sex right right right right right i'm trying to think
12:11
is there anything else that i should be thinking of oh an x-class no pull up an x-class oh i'm
12:17
familiar with the x we don't talk about the amorak the x-class i would buy it was based on the amorak
12:21
right no it was based on the nissan navara that's right it was based on navara but isn't the amorak
12:25
also based there's a lot of like development sharing in the european you know where i saw what
12:30
college about that about you know where i saw one of these brought a slava wow really i saw one in
12:37
you gotta be pretty legit i have one for you to be seeing an x-class and brought a slava
12:42
any of you viewers out there ever seen an x-class and brought a slava shout out to brought a slava
12:47
you know what they make in brought a slava the cayenne all right let's move on to the next question
12:51
let's pull up with like 2000 fiesta strada oh yeah i do like the little trucks the little
12:57
mexico trucks the little latin america trucks i do like to look at that that yellow one far left
13:02
i don't like those but oh no they're atrocious what's the the ram 700 or the ram rampage you
13:08
know how the it's the ram 1500 yeah in mexico they sell the ram 700 and i actually really legit
13:13
like that yeah it's cool truck that's also the fiesta strada right uh yeah that's a cool truck
13:18
but we only think about the 2000 oh i like the maverick a lot i like a hybrid the maverick is
13:22
great there's a lot of the trucks i would get it's just never happened but it will someday i love that
13:26
range we know it won't really why would it why would it happen because dude i gotta transport
13:30
materials all right next question from robio math doug philipo and kenan uh let's hear how fast
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you've driven and what vehicle you were driving the fastest you've driven uh in mexico of course 160
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miles an hour in the uh in the sl 65 you drove you've been 160 in your sl 65 yeah in mexico
13:50
oh my god close by it's easy it moves you're insane it's fast that my m5 is not far behind i have
13:57
done 150 something i'm gonna kill somebody nah i'm just gonna wait around what about you i don't
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know i can't think of there's not like a number that's sticking out of my mind i did 160 on the
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autobahn on a cayenne turbo oh i did clatter into the limiter a couple then world's 155 is where the
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x3 limit x3 m50 i on the autobahn that's fast head 150 kilometers many times i'd tell you something
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160 is a lot i did it in a cayenne turbo i did it like three times in the same cayenne turbo um
14:23
which was actually let's check this out it was actually a gen nine five seven or whatever the
14:29
enthusiasm nine pa is correct it was like a 2010 so a faith lift first gen first gen turbo s
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on the autobahn going a five-speed automatic yeah yeah i'm stunned it's geared high enough to do that
14:43
it goes it goes and i had an open stretch i was there i was with some sort of business trip with
14:50
and they gave us that was like our car that we all were sharing the four americans who had come
14:54
and i got it for some for some afternoon they all had some meaning that i didn't have and i took it
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out and passed duke art out into the country and i just let it go and i got up to 160 no exactly the
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stretch you did it on it's like terrifying i think it's great i didn't find anything scary
15:09
but it was the winter and um that okay all right so you're doing a snow tires that are rated to go
15:14
120 you know i didn't think about that it probably was on snow tires that literally didn't cross my
15:18
mind until this moment yeah it was also there definitely was yeah it's as required i don't
15:24
go that fast very often but as you before i do like i do a whole series of checks and like make
15:29
sure it's like there's a lot like you do you put the speed key in if it had one unfortunately it
15:34
doesn't but i would if it did i like procedure boy is that true uh question for doug kennan
15:43
from little bubba what's your favorite car movie or car movies i i don't know if it counts but i
15:50
feel like it does because the car is such a character movie my favorite movie of all time is
15:54
ferris bueller's day off and the car is like obviously a pretty cal spider yeah repped cal
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spider but amadna which we've sold a number of those on the side for big money for real money
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which is another topic altogether my favorite i love gone in 60 seconds dearly strong yeah however
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fast and furious you've only seen the first three yeah but one i'm only talking about number one
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to be clear i'm only talking about number one they become less about cars as they go fast and
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furious one is the greatest car movie of all time period you know it's pretty good the remake of the
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talent job with mark wallberg yeah it's a mini movie right i don't do minis i think i agree
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and something to then okay that's not enough they're over defenders family man's another good
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one that 550 550 not a lot of 550 marinella movies not many that was a nice one too yeah
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calico was good yep i can't think of anything that i know you know it was great the charlie's
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angels movies like not great movies but ferrari sponsored them at the time because ferrari wants
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like for advertising and so they have like enzo the cow spider like tons and tons of like
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36 i came in diaz's character driver 360 um and i because i believe i can't remember who it was but
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like they like the actress has got to drive the enzo before any journalist i get at the time
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because there's one scene i can't remember for i don't want to say elizabeth hurley but that's
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not right there's this girl's getting out like she was opening that demi more there's demi more
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thank you demi more was getting like i came out of the ocean with like her surfboard and she goes
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to like get in the car and it's an enzo i'm like open the door and she drove it and so she drove it
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before that's incredible but it's like demi more at a more more into the ocean with your surfboard
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yeah more informed position than any automotive journalist i we should probably call out the
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daniel craig james bond movies for deep forward sponsorship they they highlighted a fusion they
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highlighted a car they're really they went big yeah that's true they went deep forward because
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although the the the ones were ford owned astin and jaguar there were one was it dine other day
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where there was the green xkr and the start of one of them has a chaser that includes a julia quad
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um it's so funny when i think james bond i think of the dvs and casino royale you
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really i think of the the ford fusion in that same movie i think i still think of the bm the ranger
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i still think of the bm oh yeah of course when i think of james bond i think of pierce brosnan who
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in my opinion was the best james bond although they're pretty assured by nobody no i agree
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which i think were the best i have a license plate designed by pierce brosnan keep that in mind
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the best i think the best james bond usually is the james bond that was james bond when you
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grew up and in our case it was pierce brosnan okay we got two more questions uh next question is
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from doug's nissan cube will shon ever appear on the pod would be interested to hear about his 360
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and g 63 ownership first off shon doesn't have a g 63 he's got a bad color g wagon it's a regular
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g 550 uh and he's not cut out telling it
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he keeps having all these problems that like you can chalk up to just he's not ready like he
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needs a grenadier honestly is what he needs no he needs like a newer car with a warranty think
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about how much he'll complain his 360 ownership has been great he won't appear on the pod shon
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is an old friend of mine i've he's been in production for a long time he produced worked on
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a lot of shows you've seen if you're in the car world however he doesn't like to be in front of
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the camera which is shame because it'd be nice of him right there he says he'll come on the pod
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eventually if you wanted to come on the pod write to him at shon at cars and s e a n at
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cars and bids dot com s e a n at cars and bids dot com and if he doesn't reply to you just email him
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again uh yeah just keep sending him notes sign him up for stuff i was like i was gonna say that
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but i was thinking uh okay next question i'm gonna do actually two more mouse cop very important
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question for Doug why do you no longer get the back seats of cars that you review this is a question
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i get a lot i i have back trouble serious real back you do um that um i try to avoid doing crazy
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stuff with my back i have little kids now and i want to play on the floor with them and i don't
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want to have back trouble i had uh some real incidents with my back that really caused some
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problems and i have it for a while now and i'm just trying to avoid anything like that so i don't do
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it anymore uh which i'm sorry i saw you in the backseat of a haunted prayer i did get in the
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backseat of that video i did yeah i don't do a lot that my job is more physical than it looks
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it's not anymore because i shoot everything in here but like for a long time i was like in i was
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like five hours in the sun every day you know i'm doing down a lot why you didn't just sit on the
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box like i do for others just i'd never i never bring a box like the difference between me and you
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is you have a box yeah i have a backpack but i i try to be as as as slim and as easy as possible
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because when you start adding stuff it means you got to add stuff and and one thing keep it in and
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then something doesn't fit in most cars it does it's not look at it it's not very large it's
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it there's literally a backpack next to it it's barely taller than that massive cano it doesn't
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fit my 4g t anyway the point is nothing doesn't have a trunk well there you go the point is uh
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i don't kill myself for this job anymore i only sit yeah like i did for so many years
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toiling laying brick out in the hot sun i was digging holes and something appropriate somehow
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i was i was digging holes and framing houses for so many years i can't go anymore now i sit here on
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this podcast in an air-conditioned space with filipo yep it's a shame we are underground
21:29
uh that's our big who do you think dug the foundation it was me by hand with a steam shovel
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yep definition of by hand there uh well but the steam shovel also requires a lot of work it's not
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like you just it's not like modern technology that he uses you gotta you know don't forget it's
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powered by steam you gotta have someone to feed the fire the steam and then burn my skin i came in
21:54
at night with burns you know who would do that really well you would be really good at running a
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steam locomotive you know yes i'd also be a good lighthouse keeper i've been told like a lot of
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victorian era things i would keep pretty good okay last last i'm gonna do two more but i'm doing
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very so quickly that it's gonna feel like one douglas and filipo would the new prelude actually be
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compelling at the pre-tariff price point no not what impact of that price no except now they may
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because there are there's talk of additional tariffs on japanese vehicles the president
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has announced additional tariffs will that happen the prelude it would have been everybody's
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talking about price point it would have been so much easier to just give them more power
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like the whole problem could have been solved with 65 more horsepower and in and so everybody's
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like oh make it cheaper i don't think it's compelling at 38 like i think it's compelling it's
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how much is this specific hybrid yeah that's the problem like civic hybrids are 34 brz is i mean i
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would rather have a brz and that's like 33 or something the prelude would be more comfortable
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if you want that you get my point yeah but i don't want that no one in a coop segment wants that
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anymore i don't disagree like the the plr we're talking about a court hybrid for 34 yeah it's a
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good vehicle that same mpg as a prelude so the answer is no i truly think that the way to remedy
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the prelude is not to make it cheaper which is what everybody's saying it's to give it more power
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it's to give it the power that it actually should have you know it's funny honda's like oh we're
23:13
bringing back this name plate that everybody loved from back in the day well the people who loved it
23:18
were people who were 17 in 2000 those people have enough money now to go out and buy but they also
23:23
have expectations of performance that have changed from when they were 17 in 2000 and 200 horsepower
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felt fast and honda hasn't delivered that and so they hit the nostalgia crowd with something they
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don't want i don't want to actually go back to high school i want to go back to what my high school
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self wanted yeah and it is not a 200 horsepower prelude uh hard to argue with that okay last
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question from my cash viper doug you mentioned during your reviews that a certain car drives better
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or worse than a similar car in the second segment as a journalist to make sense to say these comments
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but how do you remember when you have driven so many cars in your lifetime this is my job
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of course i remember doug has any for those that don't know doug person he has an exceptionally
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good memory but also which like does matter this is what i do every when your job you probably
24:07
remember how to what do people do in their jobs i don't know index match in excel would you look up
24:13
philippo can do a pivot table philippo can do a pivot table like that you ask him to a pivot
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table doesn't sleep doesn't use the mouse he just uses the keyboard shortcuts okay no that's
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that's the equivalent okay i went to the heart doctor i got some heart thing i went to the
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heart doctor and i wore like a heart patch you know for like a three weeks or something
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and i went in there and i said yeah here's the data and he said oh this is nothing i said and i'm
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looking at it right and it's like this right right and i'm like oh how do you know he goes
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i've been doing this election yeah i think you're right like it is your job to remember
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how those cars drive to pay really close attention to that this is what i do it's the only thing that
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i do i'm gonna keep that clip uh all right do we have anything else philippo do you have any
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final thoughts for the audience no but keep checking out our events if you missed the one
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san diego member should go check that out sign up if i'm an avance san diego member my member on
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the all the avances i believe so i don't know that's a question for the avance folks sorry the
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answer is yes to that you you got any parting he's just gonna promo us and i can't take it anymore
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you got it part of the car so the avance you talked to our friend kevin yay signed up uh yes
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just check out my i've got a lot of cool youtube content coming to go go check this thank you i've
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been trying to why wasn't i invited what we'll do something together but go check out my youtube
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channel it's ken and roulson i want to be clear not to be in it but to just see a diner i'll
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invite you for the these guys are promoing stuff i'm not going to promo anything i'm only going
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to say one parting thought which is send us an email sean at carsandbids.com just to check in
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s e a n at carsandbids.com goodbye everyone goodbye goodbye january
