Used Car HORROR Stories: Scams, Nightmares & Stolen Cars | F_cking Cars Podcast Ep. 3

Hey, f***ing cars!

Yeah, so I was thinking we could talk about some of these, like, buying car horror stories.

Yeah, I only have a couple, like one for myself.

That's, I mean, it's really nothing too crazy.

I have one with another buddy of mine that it's a pretty good story.

Well, they don't know how to be ours.

What happened to your buddy?

Yeah, right. Yeah, for sure.

He, so we went up to, I think it was like Tomahawk or rent.

It was like an hour and a half or hour 45 away.

And there's like a Volkswagen or an Audi, like an late 80s, early 90s.

It was just a real shit box, right?

But we get there and he's like, yeah, we're just going to drive it home.

And we get going and there's like literally no brakes at all.

There's like just a faint amount of what, what was left of the e-brake.

And it was an hour and a half, hour 45 minute.

It was a diesel too, so it was just smoking like crazy.

It was, I have faint memories of it, but it was just, I'm just glad he was driving because it was very not, it was not safe at all.

I don't recommend.

I've lost brakes on quite a few cars, so I kind of get the feeling.

Yeah, I mean, you can navigate it without traffic, but with traffic.

If that's a pretty hard thing to do.

Was it a manual at least?

Yeah, it was a manual.

So I mean, you could at least grab a gear and slow down quite a bit, but it wasn't stopping.

Yeah, that's not good.

Speaking of losing brakes in my tundra, just over a year ago, I was working about a half an hour from home and I was driving down the highway in the morning, you know, 70 miles an hour.

And I, there, there's like, we're starting to get into like a school zone, not school zone, but where the buses were picking kids up and the bus was pulling over.

So everybody, of course, like locks up their brakes in front of me because they see the lights come on in the bus.

And so there's like three cars ahead of me, they all just slam the brakes, the bus lights come on in the other lane.

I go to hit the brakes in the tundra and foot goes to the floor.

I blow a rubber brake line on the front end and I had to, because I'm like in a 4600 pound truck.

I had to quick weave out into the lane because there was like telephone pole on the right side in the ditch.

So I had to weave into the middle of the road and then like squeeze between the bus and the cars.

And then I went around the front car and kind of like just put it into the ditch and pulled over and there was just brake fluid everywhere in my wheel.

Well, my wheel was soaked that blew a rubber line.

I was only like two miles from work.

What a dick driving like a dick.

Well, I made sure to pull over and like have my flashers on and wait for everybody to go by.

So it was like obviously I was fixing something and then or there was a problem.

And then after everybody passed and I felt shameful and then all the kids at the other bus stop were still staring at me.

I just limped it to work like the two miles and just drove real slow, but the tundra's an automatic.

So of course I'm like driving the column shift three, two, one.

And then just like trying to only use rear brakes to park it.

You have to drive in through a dealership parking lot to get to the body shop and you're like trying not to hit any expensive new cars.

But borrowed my managers.

I borrowed my manager's coven and the comments went and got a brake line, changed it and bled it on lunch and then I was good to drive home.

Oh, nice. Roadside. Roadside stuff. That's always fun, right?

Oh, yeah.

We bought a 38 two door sedan.

Me and my wife did. It was just going to be a personal project four or five years ago or something like that.

And I was all excited about it. We went to go pick it up and it wasn't like super nice car.

It was just something that we could I wanted to turn it into a coupe and chop it and stuff.

So we go to pick it up and the guy that we bought it from he's got this homemade crane on the back of his pickup.

And it's like, it's janky, right?

We basically he basically lifted the whole because the car the wheels wouldn't turn in and they used to turn, you know, that old story.

So, yeah, rear ends completely locked up.

So he's like basically lifting the entire car up onto this trailer.

It was very, very sketchy. And then the roads on the way home where there were no shoulders at all.

It was dark, dear everywhere.

So we can only go like 40 miles an hour tops on the way home and it was like a two hour drive on a good day.

So it was a I think we got home in like midnight or something, you know, those rides go.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, we've had plenty of those.

When I was a teenager still in high school, a friend of mine saw this pair of Jeep Cherokees, like the early 90s XJs, like 89, 90.

And stopped at the lady's house and knocked on the door because they just had for sale on them.

They didn't say any information.

We're like, hopefully they're cheap.

So she sold us two XJs, both running and driving for $1,000.

Because this was like 2006, 2007.

And so my buddy paid 600 for the nice one. I paid 400 for the less nice one.

And on the drive home, we, how did we do that?

I think, I think we, since we had a drive there in a vehicle, we took his vehicle home and then we went back and got the second Jeep for me.

And on the drive home, I'm doing 45 miles an hour on a county road.

And right as I cross a bridge, all of a sudden, bang, I go down the wheel hops up in the air, the front wheel, and it just passes me going down the highway.

And then I lock up the brakes as hard as I can.

And I ground the rotor for about like 50 yards down the road and then pulled off onto the shoulder on three wheels.

And then we couldn't find the wheel.

It had rolled like almost a mile.

It went over, it went over a railroad track.

It went through like three people's yards and then it hit a tree right before it went in the Wisconsin River.

A guy saw us on the side of the road and he's like, what are you doing?

And I was like, oh, we lost a wheel. I can't find it.

And I was trying to figure out how to jack the vehicle up and all that.

And so he got on a four wheel and rode around.

He goes, I found it about like 20 yards from going into the river.

It was leaning on a tree, but I think thankfully our chase vehicle had a floor jack in it

or we had to call somebody or whatever.

And then we went around and there wasn't any tight lug nuts on the whole Jeep.

So I called the lady and she goes, oh, you know what?

My son did change the wheels on it a while ago.

So of course I tortured everybody that rode in my car.

Every time we'd drive past that spot, I would go, hey, my wheel fell off here.

And then I'd point out the grind, the grind line and the thing.

And so I got to the point where it was like a regular joke.

Like anybody that was riding with me, they'd be like, hey, did your wheel fall off here?

Oh, that's so funny.

It's like old people stories driving down the road and you get the same story every time,

but you're like not old.

I don't know. I feel old.

I had another one of those stories where you tell somebody every time you go by there.

It was, we were out in one of my, I think it was my first 240SX and my friends and I,

we used to go out on Friday night and there'd be like all the street racers in town

meeting up and driving around and stoplight to stoplight cruising grand avas that we used to call it.

And I pulled up, I pulled up in my primer 240SX and this catfish style 4th gen Camaro pulls up next to me

and he's revving it up and revving it up.

The light goes green. We both floor it and right after we floor it in the oncoming lane

on the other side of the split road, cop lights go on.

He saw us both tear out of the stoplight and this Camaro is like loud as can be.

So we go tear it off. I see the lights because my passenger spotted it

because I was like, you know, trying to go forward and not hit anybody.

My passenger spots, he goes, there's a cop.

So I quick dive off the road while the Camaro thinks we're still racing

and I go like a block back. I take a left. I take a right on the next one

and I just ended up stuffing it at the end of a dead end road and like parking in between the cars

and shutting all the lights off and we all reclined our chairs and laid back

and then the cop, we see him, the lights go cruising

because it's dark enough you can see him kind of above the houses and whatever.

We see the lights go cruising. He chases the Camaro down

and we waited like a good 10, 15 minutes and then pulled out and drove real quiet, real slow

and drove home and then on the way home we see the cop had a couple of motorcycles pulled over.

He must have not caught the Camaro but it was ticked off enough that he pulled somebody over.

He had like two motorcycles pulled over on the side of the highway.

So after that, anytime we drove through that intersection, I'm like, hey, I ran from the cops here.

Nice.

Yeah, I don't have any other like buying car stories.

I do have other stories of being like stuck on the side of the road for sure.

Like the truck I had air ride on, we, at one point I redid something with the air ride

and I ended up, the brackets I welded onto the frame for the air tank broke

or I can't remember how something broke or it broke off the air tank.

Somehow the air tank fell.

I don't remember how it all happened or whatever but it ended up grinding off the petcock on the bottom

and I was like totally out of air on the side of the road.

I laid out and this was a body drop.

So it was laying rocker on the side of the road.

That was a really good time.

People had to go back to Fleet Farm which was like our, it was probably 30 minutes away

just to get some fittings and like luckily I didn't have the bed enclosed

because if the bed was enclosed, I have no idea how I would have gotten it together.

Like I have no idea.

It'd still be sitting there maybe, I don't know.

It lives there now.

Right.

Yeah.

I don't know how many side of the roads.

I mean I had like a, yesterday we saw a guy pushing a motorcycle so we'd quick pulled over.

You know we looped around to see if he needed anything.

My wife goes do you want to see if he needs a hand?

I was like well maybe he's out of gas or something.

It looks like a pretty nice bike.

But I said yeah because there's been times when I was in Wyoming

pulled onto the highway on my KZ1000 Cafe Racer and it dies

and I had to push my motorcycle five miles down the side of the highway

because there's nothing in Wyoming.

There's nobody that's going to stop and then I just, I had to push it to the next exit

and it was five miles was the closest one.

So I had to push it all the way down and it's a 1979 Kawasaki 1000.

It's a heavy bike.

So it took me like, it took a good chunk out of my afternoon just pushing it

and then I get to this gas station.

I call some friends off the gas station phone and then they come out there

and of course when they get out there right before we load it onto their truck

I go to start the bike, it fires right up.

Ended up finding out the gas tank.

The vent wasn't working and so it was like vacuum sealing.

I'd get running for a while and it'd like vapor, vapor lock.

So to fix that I took a screwdriver and I took the cap off

and then I took a Phillips screwdriver and I hit it with a mallet really hard

and popped a hole right on the covered part of the top of the gas tank

and that made my vent.

But yeah, this guy we saw pushing the bike we're like, you need a hand?

He's like, no, no, no, I'm all good.

And I was like, okay, he's like, yeah, my bike's just so loud.

I'm going to get away from the apartments before starting it up.

That's so weird.

I would just think the neighbor's got to get used to it, but whatever.

It's just trying to be polite.

Yeah, right.

Oh man, that'd be rough having to push your bike away from the house.

It'd be really rough.

Bikes getting pushed.

Hard times and circumstances.

So I feel like I vaguely remember a car before the style line that you got now.

What did you have before that one?

Oh, I had a white Roadster thing.

It started as a 39 Chevy pickup.

And some dude like caught the roof off of it and made it a Roadster.

I traded, I got, I had a 52 Olds that I traded for that thing.

I don't know why I ended up doing that.

That was a running driving car.

Probably that's why it was.

And then I kind of, it was really ugly.

The Roadster was ugly as hell.

So I did a bunch of stuff to change that up.

Bringing that home was, I brought that home in the rain.

That sucked.

It was a Roadster.

But that was like, it was kind of rat roddy, not a rat rod,

but it was rat roddy kind of.

I don't know.

It was looking back.

It was like kind of cringy, but whatever.

It's just what I had at the time.

It was, it was fun.

You know, riding around the Roadster in the round town is pretty fun,

but it's a fair weather car.

So that straight up through this thing,

which was not running my 46.

So that's, it was a good trade, but it was still running,

trading a running driving car for a non-running car.

That's cooler is not recommended for the automotive enthusiast.

Oh, so you actually traded it for the one you have now?

Yeah.

Yep.

But it was, I put everything in.

I mean, there's no wiring that's original.

I pretty much emptied the whole car out.

You said that you were working at that last body shop before you

started your shop to get a drivetrain for this car.

What do you have in there for,

or what did you pick up for a drivetrain?

It's just a 350.

I bought a 350 for my buddy of mine for a couple hundred bucks.

It was like a nineties van motor.

There really wasn't anything too special about it.

But I got some Vortech heads and it's got a carburetor for barrel

carburetor intake with a holly on it.

And then it's got a 700 R4 overdrive transmission.

And so it's got Mustang two front suspension with just coils.

And I want to bag the front, but the back has got air ride with

a four link.

Eventually I want to air ride the whole thing,

but I want to do an engine driven compressor instead of doing

like the electric pumps that sound like crap and make a bunch

of noise and they cause a lot of, I mean,

the engine driven compressors are just like better, faster.

You can't hear.

Yeah, I can see that.

I can see that.

Yeah, I just got to plot out some time now to get some of

that stuff welded together on it because it was just now

I'm making the best out of the bad chop that the last

guy started.

And I kind of halfway finished it so I can make it a driver and

now I'm trying to make the sheet metal in the rough right.

And while I'm doing this, you can do, you know,

while I'm doing this, you might as well cut this up.

And while I'm doing this, you might as well cut that up,

you know, and then it's snowballs and now you have a

running driving car that the sheet metals all cut up.

It's like, I don't know if this is a good idea or not.

Yeah, I can see that.

So do you actually like change the chop angles and stuff like

that?

Or do you just cleaning up the work you have done?

The only thing I didn't change from the last guy was the

windshield opening.

So the windshield opening was just chopped five inches.

The whole thing was chopped five inches from that guy.

And it was actually pretty square.

Like to his, it was actually square.

So it's, it wasn't the end of the world as far as like

redoing everything, but it was just the car that these

cars themselves are very humpback.

It's not like a Buick or a Cadillac of that era where

they're a little more tucked in in the back.

Right.

The front, the front windshield, like I said, we chopped it

five inches, but I wanted to hard top it.

So you cut the top of the door off and then you

have this gap on top, this, you know, two inch gap on

top of where the door was where the roof should

probably be now.

So you hard top it and then it's, you have that

gap missing.

So I'm like, well, let's chop it some more.

Right.

So the side is chopped two more inches.

I brought the roof down on the side, the window

openings on the side.

And then the back, we tilted the, the trunk down

from the taillights down about three inches and

then moved the belt line up about 11 inches.

So it, and then put a 38 Buick back window in it,

which it's just like a 30s GM split window.

All the GMs use the same split window, I think.

The sheet metal anyways, but so it's tucked up

really, you know, really far and nice and it

looks really good.

It's just a matter of getting the, I just got

to get time on it to get the sheet metal

done.

It's just, it's right there.

It's just a matter of working on my own

stuff, you know.

Yee-haw.

Yeah.

You don't make money on your own stuff.

No.

Man, I got to, sometimes I just got to like

get it out and turn it around so you can

get a different view and like fall in love

with it a little more again, you know, that

kind of stuff.

I like how the front end's real big and

then it looks like, you know, the car's

kind of dragging away and like, you know

what I mean?

Like it's the size of it all slopes away

and like a backwards wedge.

Yeah.

It's like, it's definitely got the

speedboat stance, you know, the tail

jager speedboat.

Yeah.

So that's definitely the, I dig that a

lot, but I dig all kinds of different

flavors of stuff.

Like, I mean, like I'm definitely not a

Mustang guy, but this Mustang we're

building here is like, if I were to

have a Mustang, this is probably what

it would look like pretty close anyway,

you know.

Have you done anything on that this

week?

Yeah.

We finished up the backing plates

and just getting the little

duct in here for, I got this,

got a fill in a couple of little pieces

here for the passenger side to get

the connection up behind the

passenger headlight.

But yeah, I got that pretty much

wrapped up.

The next thing, we got the clutch

put in the, put in the Coyote

Tremix setup there.

My buddy Trapper in TC Fab right

here.

Oh, got the merch.

He's a pretty smart guy.

Yeah, yeah.

He's a pretty smart guy.

He likes Volkswagen, Audi stuff.

Like he's really into that.

So he makes me feel like I could buy

an Audi and I'd have a resource

that would like, here, just take it

to him and take care of it, you know.

I would never, usually not like a

foreign guy, but he makes me have

a little more faith in this stuff.

Yeah.

I get a little nervous about the

Euro cars.

Yeah.

Sometimes he's like, yeah, they're

terrible, but I know how to fix it,

you know.

I mean, we also had a Passat

wagon that lasted forever, but I

think, I think with the European

cars, you got to pick like, there's

certain really reliable engines

and transmissions and stuff like

that.

And you just got to make sure they

pick from one of the many options.

No doubt.

Yeah.

Trapper's like a, he's like an

old guy, I'm like, oh, I'm

going to get out the other yesterday

and it was like an hour later, we're

still, still BS.

And I was like, oh man, we got

stuff to do.

We got cars to build.

So, had to get back to work.

Is that the main thing you've had

going on in the shop this week?

Just forming some brake

cooling ducts and stuff.

Yeah.

I got that done.

I was working on this model

A. We have the four inch chop

just trying to get the roof

clico together.

So we can start moving forward with

like welding some of the parts

together.

I did get some, did get it that far

to where it's shaped is really nice.

Everything's fitting really well.

So a couple of the corners I can't

really fabricate yet until some of

the outside pieces are welded together

so you know exactly where they're

going to be in layout.

Otherwise you're just changing a

part that you made a couple different

times depending on how the roof lays

out once it's all welded together.

This is together.

It should be in the next this next

month just at least getting the

roof at least tacked together and

some of it welded together.

A little more established and then

we got to move on to the rest of

the body.

It's got some enough work to do on

the rest of the body to sheet

metal wise.

Is that the one that you're

putting the Mustang roof skin on?

Yeah.

Yep.

Mustang roof skin backwards and

it's fitting pretty well that

tip the edge on where the flange

where it would attach to the back

of the Mustang where it would be

spot welded on.

Just tip that down to meet the

header panel and I think I'm

just going to scribe it

and like

butt weld it to that front

header panel and I think it's

going to be blended in really nice.

You're not even like it's going to

be seamless.

It should be pretty awesome.

You got to take the wind every

once in a while.

Yeah, it's definitely something

I didn't realize you could

use the front or the whole front flange

and I set it on their backwards with the flange

and I'm like, oh man, that kind of looks good

and the customer was like, yeah,

it's got a look.

So I dig it.

Does that have like a radius to it

where it crowns up in the top

or is it a pretty straight across

frame?

No, the 28, 29 is that

the cowl kind of has that big

swoop across it and it's still

it's not very straight across the top.

It does have a nice radius that kind of

it's not exactly the same as the row or is the cowl

because it would be too way too bubbly but

does have a nice radius that makes it

it makes it look like it's supposed to be there, which is

the stuff I really dig doing.

Right. Yeah, you don't want

to have like one thing be kind of just

a little weird so you're always focusing

on it every time you look at it.

Yeah, even if you're working on other

cars, just sometimes you're looking at

your other projects making like just

over at whatever point of

vantage point you have just to make sure

even some of the styling stuff you're doing is

like if you have it laid

out, sometimes I'll lay something out

style wise and then

like punch out of that one work on other

cars just to be able to

look at it from different vantage points to make sure this is the

direction we want to go

specifically on this Mustang just because

it's when you're building stuff out of sheet metal

I mean it's you only want to build it once you don't want to

build it modify it modify it modify

you know so it's just making sure you're

moving forward

accurately I guess.

Yeah, I found like a lot of

the stuff where I'm actually like

restyling something or

you know even sometimes with paint when you're laying

lines out to go with the car.

Sometimes the more time you have

between starting it and actually

like laying it out really can refine something

just by staring at it and getting like that

time you know to reflect on it

and think about something else and then kind of come back

to it and you just catch something like oh maybe

that just needs to be moved a little bit more

definitely

definitely there's times where it's

five o'clock or a little after five

or something and I'm done working

and I'm punched out but I'm just sitting here

staring at specifically this Mustang

because there's so many different variables

as far as like

the systems in the front end

making sure there's room for everything

and then while we're doing all this

it needs to look beautiful as well

so it needs to everything's got to flow

and fit together and the lines need to look right

and if you're sitting too

close to the car you're never

I don't think you're ever going to get the

the proper view and you're never

going to portray it right because you're not standing back

where everybody else that's going to be

looking at the car sees it back first

so it's got to look great from

30, 40, 50 feet

away and it's got to look even better

when you get closer.

Sometimes when you're working in like a garage

or a car outside and stare at it

you know because you need that different perspectives

for sure

roll it out look at it turn it around

and bring it back in and then stare at it

stare at the back of it for a while

you know

yeah

I was uh

digging through some old car photos

and stuff I worked on

and uh I know I mentioned before

that I think I mentioned that I put a

rocket 350 in a Toyota Supra

oh yeah nice

I found some videos of that car

um

like running and whatever

and like pictures of it with that

just a goofy big old cast iron

v8 in it but uh

speaking of

car buying horror stories

there was this one field

farmer's field we knew to go to that this guy had

you know

60 something cars out in the farmer's field

everything from like little dots and b210s

to

he had a 1950s Chrysler 300

which are like super rare now

but you know all this stuff just laying

laying out in this field

pretty much rotting away even though it's not getting

salted just years of being wet

and in the shade

he had an ario speed wagon like

one of the farm trucks and stuff like that

and uh

that's where I learned that the band was actually named after

a truck

but uh

we went down there because there was this

72 cutlass there cutlass supreme

I think

and it had uh

7000 miles on it

and we're like oh it's crazy

we're looking at it

and the whole body and the frame and everything is just

shot but

we're looking at it and we're like well

you know 7000 miles on a rocket 350

that's

you know that's a new car pretty much

even for an old small blog that's

looking in

so we

we worked with the guy and we were like we want to buy the

cutlass

and he's like okay uh 300

I think we paid 350 bucks or 500 bucks

or something like that because they had such low miles on it

on the motor so we're buying a motor

he had to put it on the trailer with

his tractor and

while he was putting it on the trailer the body

came off of the frame

and so like just the front

body mounts were holding it and he was like

cross to the car trailer

and we got it back

and uh

my brother was the one that bought it for the motor

at the time and uh

so we were like in a rush he was only visiting for a little while

we wanted to get this motor out so

we get it unloaded or we get it loaded

at like noon we drive it to our shop

which was

almost an hour drive

we tear the motor and the tranny out on the trailer

with a cherry picker and like just a lot

of maneuvering and

we get it on the ground

and start hauling

or we get the motor out and we start hauling to the junkyard

because we wanted to scrap this thing before they close

at five o'clock well we have we call on the way

we're like we're five minutes away

can you just hang out for us we're just going to drop this car

off or whatever

so the junkyard's like okay whatever

we're you know we'll leave the gate open

we pull in with this 72 cutlass

for them and uh we had

the guy gave us a title with it

and we go up they they drag it off the trailer

with the uh loader

and he goes up

to it and he's holding the title and he looks

at the dashboard and he looks at the title

and then he pops the hood open

and he looks at the firewall

and then he's still kind of looking weird

and we're all standing there getting ready to leave but we need him to give

our paperwork so we can get our 50 bucks

for scrap or whatever for this rotten car

and he's looking and then he's got the door

open he's in the car and he's looking

around and he goes he comes up to us

after after like five ten minutes

of deliberation he goes hey um

the VIN number does not match

the the VIN on the dash the one on

the title doesn't match the one on the dash

and the dash doesn't match the firewall

and the firewall

doesn't match the door

he's like you got four or five

different VIN numbers here on one car

and so we're going

so we're going wait a minute

7000 miles

and it was stuffed in the back of a farm field

this must have been a stolen car

or something at some point

oh my gosh

we had a title and it's like

there was no car there left there was no value

there and the guy just kind of looked at us

and maybe this is past the statute

of limitations this is all allegedly

this is a fictitious story

but the guy goes you know what

it's already 20 after 5

this thing is not worth anything to anybody

and clearly it's been sitting for a long time

so if somebody was looking for it

and the ship is sailed he goes

I'm crushing it first thing in the morning

just get out of here and it's even

it's even shadier it happened after hours

yeah

never checked the VIN on the engine to see if it matched

any of them but

it's still pretty funny

it really depends on the car you know

yeah so I don't know if it actually

ever had 7000 miles on that

portion of it for all I know the guy turned

the dashboard back and or it was out of

a different car or you know who knows

I would assume the cluster is probably out

of a car that was

let's make this car worth as much as we can

here it is you know

yeah it was like a hideous gold

with a green interior

the green vinyl interior

landow roof

that sounds beautiful

oh yeah

they don't make them like that anymore

but

yeah

it's pretty exciting for a little bit there

to figure out if the junkyard guy

is going to call the cops on you

right

but we decided not to

go back to that farm to buy any more cars

right

oh man

so what are you working on do you work on

your control arms this last week get them all finished

up jazzed up

I was cutting yesterday I was

plasma cutting out some shock tabs for it

and make it all the layouts

for that because you got a

part of the long travel and all the math on it

for the geometry you got to set the distance

between your pivot point

and your shock mount point

and then you know obviously there's from

your pivot point to where the

spindle bolts to the end of control arm

or where the ball join us and

all that changes the leverage

that the shock has on it you know they call

it a motion ratio

so

I was just making sure I'm laying that out right

and I calculated my spring rates all based on

a certain motion ratio

so I got a you know I jigged out the lower control arms

when I made them and now I'm basically

making sure I have the

shock points at the jigged out place

so and just like where we were talking

about with your roof and stuff like that

I had a shock tab in mind

and then I realized in the time

between

you know conceiving the idea

and making them I found a stronger way

to weld them on there

is just going to be more surface area weld

instead of just the tab laying on top of it

like every other control arm has it done that way

but like I said if I'm jumping

a 4600 pound truck if I can maximize

you know strength of everything

that's taking that impact the better

so I did that

cutting out lay or the overlay

panels moving slow on it

but I'm slowly taking along

on the long travel

hey

moving forward is moving forward

right

do you have to install that lower control arm to do that

like have everything like

installed in the proper spot

to like

I have not so I basically

have them

you know I have a lower control arm it's a completely

welded I have not put it on the vehicle

one time

it's all just math and measurements

the truck right now has a rough country

lift on it and that has a drop

cross member because it's like a differential drop

set up and so I would have to

actually like remove

all of that to mock them up

and so I'm just going to run on

good measurements and blind faith

in that I got it right

and

I mean

measuring is measuring I trust

it so and then I jigged them out so they

should go right in and then

I

should be pretty should be pretty straightforward

I'm going to have to cut the shop the upper shock mounts

and then

well then new extended ones when I'm

putting the control arms in but

hopefully that can all just be in like a three

or four day install

nice nice

I dig it

trying to decide if the upper control arms I'm going to do

tubing

or if I'm going to build them out of plate

like a plate work style

I haven't a hundred percent decided

yeah I guess

really not an advantage or disadvantage

as far as I don't know

there's less cutting and welding

with tube

yeah you didn't bend it I guess

I just don't have a tube but it's going to

bend thick enough tube

yeah I was looking up one the other day

but I have to

have to take care of the stuff I have right now I can't

buy any more tools right now

there is something fun about getting new equipment though

it's like yeah it's

addicting you want to get the new tools to

do all the cool things

and sometimes you just don't have enough

room I mean we have

6,000 square feet and I feel like I'm running out of room for

tools but there's

people that do a lot more with a lot less

you know so

yeah you

get used to having space to walk around

between things

yeah

last winter it was

we were jam packed in here because we brought in some projects

for the winter so it was

full my god it was jam packed

and you could barely walk in here for

a couple months it's nice that

it's actually cleared up you know

some say a pack shop is a

productive shop

I don't know about that

it's all in the eyes of the

holder you know

what do you got going next week

we got up the front floors

of that Brookville

I don't know if they normally

sell them

install wood up front

in front of the seat

but we're going to

I just got to get some more sheet metal here

on Tuesday

and build the front floor for

that and the transmission tunnel it's

there's really it's almost no hump

they sell an

there's a company that sells like direct sheet metal or something like that

that sells a front floor but it was

looked like way too big of a transmission hump and it was just like

seem like it's going to be

way easier just to make it so

we're going to make get that made

and finish up the welding on that Brookville

ASAP

and then jump back that would

be getting sanded down and hopefully

into epoxy then and then

get working on this mustang as well

I got to work on this

69 mustang as well that

got to work that thing in sometimes this next month

but I don't know if it's not going to be this next week at all

definitely going to jump in on that

Brookville and get the floor banged out

and get the welding done on that so

that's my goal

I can see that

we

so when I moved

from Wisconsin to Florida

I had this 93 Toyota

pickup that I was using as a daily driver

I bought it for a couple hundred bucks and

it was like I bought it for a beater

and then I fell in love with it one of those cars

$200 truck changed my whole

view on vehicles

because those like

it's got a 22 RE in it

it's a five speed manual

it's got manual locking hubs it's

four wheel drive and it's just like

it's low powered and over

built trucks so it just never

ever had a problem

and but it was super rusty

so when I moved I sold it to a friend

and then a couple years

after I moved he moved down here

and he was just making a trip up there

and he knew I was

planning to build some sort of buggy or

you know smaller

pre-runner or you know something like that

other than my truck for my kid and

I don't know

I know taking this

putting this coyote in this

Mustang is not going to be very fun

because we have to

all the headers are built and everything

but they were built so tight

that when we unbolted them

they just stayed there

there's like not a lot of movement

so we have to like dent them and ding them

and you know get all the clearances

and stuff but the starter

and the header have to go on at the same time

as the motors like

almost in but not all the way in

so it's like

it's going to be a whole thing

trying to get this thing put back together

and then I have to get the headers

chewed to the flange

chewed up so

everything is going to seal up nice and tight

so that's going to be

getting that back in there is going to be nice

but it's going to be a lot for sure

yeah they never thought there would be

a quad cam v8 in that car

mm-mm

yeah it's pretty tight

everything is very very tight that's why

the inner

the inner fender wells are unboltable

so you get removable so you can

access stuff but man it's still

like

there's still a lot of parts you need to install in the car

so we need to get the motor and transmission back in it

and then do all the fuel

pedal is like a modular

fuel pedal

it's all electronic

but there's not enough room physically

for it to be mounted

like where your foot is, like right above your foot

because it's got electric

assist steering so that motor

takes up that room and the motor had been

the engine

transmission had been moved back from factory

about three inches or so somewhere in there

so it's really the only spot that it fit

so that limits you

on your space so now I have to

cantilever

that fuel pedal

up on the day I have to have that mounted

up underneath the dash and then have another

like

carbureted style I guess you would say

fuel pedal and like push on it and have a little link

in between it's going to be a whole thing

yeah that's just to get the throttle

to work you know there's just no room for

stuff

how many times do you think you're going to have to have this engine in

and out before you're

done with the thing

I mean right now

we got the clutch and everything put in

the billet oil pump is

installed that the right injectors

so I mean hopefully

aside from fluids

and stuff

you know I want this to be

at least a fireable

maybe not fully operational

car but like

make sure that systems are checked and

possibly done

before we tear it apart

for body and paint so

this motor going in I would

love for it to be going in

and being you know

installing some more parts and doing some wiring

and it being a you know

fireable thing but

you know it's one step at a time

what are you doing for wiring

this custom stuff

Otsuka

um

American auto wire

harness I think I think that's what it is

I'm bad with remembering names of all this stuff

so I think it's American auto wire that we have

so that's something I'll be

you know able to go in

pretty easy and then come out before paint

and all that stuff and then go back in

yeah nice to have the harness made

you know the it doesn't need to be like

loop together but at least you know the corners made

for the harness so you can just you're literally pulling

out a harness and you're putting it you're

reinstalling it and it's it's it's done

kind of a thing it's just the car is at

that level where you got to install

some stuff I mean it's been taken

apart so far it was literally

an outside shell that was floating on

a frame that that was

never you know made by Ford so

just like installing some of the

Mustang Ford parts like

window trim and all this stuff like you

need to make sure all that stuff still fits

because I didn't it was originally

a coupe car and had

been converted to a

fatback not by me

it was by the last shop so

there's like you know like window

opening stuff it made me to make sure that

this the side glass

side window trim

over the over the door and all that stuff fits

good so that stuff can change if you don't

have the or just needs

to be tweaked you know the holes there the trim need to be

moved a little bit or something there's always something small that needs to happen

when you're doing roof conversion

stuff yeah I wanted to get into that I had a

67 coupe for a bit but

finding a good roof is

not an easy thing to do anymore

yeah it's spendy you probably

spend two three four five grand on a good

roof depending on how nice it is and then installing

it's a whole another thing too but

they're really not that bad like the roof conversions I remember doing a few of them

that one shop we worked at and

actually kind of phone there because they really don't go

too slow I mean usually you're cooking pretty fast on

it'd be nice if you just replace the outside rocker panels with

or the outside quarter panels with like

fastback quarter panels but if I could understand some of

those but if I could understand stitching it together you know stitching the two together down the

making a big seam down the center

cost is a factor but it was

always pretty pretty straight

forward as far as like making a coupe

fastback

yeah I mean I'm sure Ford when they made it they tried to

have as much continuity car to car so

as far as on the assembly line it would go

you know smoother

yeah I don't think they're like that anymore

no no everything's got its own specific part

but yeah

I don't know

definitely a lot of trim like even the side windows

we it's got like like the Hertz rent-a-cars had

the glass quarter windows

or not they weren't glass or plexiglass but the instead of the louvers so

we like that idea but the our

our openings were routed out so

if we're gonna make you know they don't sell the kit anymore

the kit was really cheesy and cheap

for the Hertz rent-a-car windows

so we're gonna make them out of flat glass

and recess them in a little bit and then when we were

making the putting the windows in it was like well

if we're gonna make a window it might as well make it make it fit the car

a little better so we just made the opening

follow the quarter panel down a little bit and then

move the front of the window to match the back

back glass trim so it'll basically look like a straight line

all the way up and around the car

it's a really cool effect but now we have to

we need to make trim for the

for the side window so it's basically a piece of aluminum

that's gonna be probably

it's it's it's three-quarter trim

three-quarter inch trim that goes around pretty much the all the windows so

need to make one that's cut out the side window and then

it's gonna be flat to the glass on the bottom side and then it'll be

sanded down to the shape of the body on the outside

so that's something I got to get done yet but it's just

you know all the

how do you eat an elephant one bite at a time right

so is that like an aluminum extrusion you buy and then you just form it into

what you need or is there like some sort of actual trim

probably gonna have to have

probably gonna have to have like it

like I don't know it's gonna have to be out of like a billet

pretty much I would suspect like

laser cut or

or a water jet it out of something like flat

flat plate I would think suspect

that's probably gonna be the easiest route just give them like a template

you cut it up they have a shop in town cut it out

and then I'm just gonna mount the glass and then

sand like basically shave the outside down to

to the body to get that the same effect as the rest of the trim

that's pretty sweet it's all the little touches that

my plan

yeah

so I put a post out on our on the podcast

Facebook page saying what are you working on

and we got some we got some interesting ones that people are people put in

somebody's doing a 76 280 Z

and a 93 Toyota Land Cruiser

they say they're both restorations but they run and drive

but they could definitely both use a hug

but I think we've all had cars like that

I need a hug too

right I actually

I think I responded couldn't we all use and use a hug

and then we have

we had somebody put a laundry

list of vehicles

1974 high boys

that's getting an engine axles cab and frame

a 70 a 77 C 10

needs rockers

a 51 Plymouth Cranbrook

that's it

that needs a needs a carburet build

and a new driveline made

a 67 Chrysler Newport

which he needs

a new rear axle bearings

but it drives wonderful except for that

a new rear axle bearing

but it drives wonderful except for that

a 1953 Ford Golden Jubilee

do you even know what that is

what if it's a tractor

what if it's a tractor Ford tractor

53 that's about right

I mean

we're gonna just go on

that sounds like

we're gonna go on that it's a tractor for right now

so he says that

he said that it needs rear axle seals so bad

it makes the Exxon Valdez

look like a minor leak

and then also a

rainbow

and then also a 62 inter

national harvester travelette

don't get me started on this

that one he's mad about

but he said at least

they've got a Toyota 4Runner

so they have something reliable

it sounds like this guy knows

how to dig a hole if you know

must have some land or something

he's got some cork

right

yeah I need to consolidate a few of those projects I think

we got another guy looking to do

a manual

Nissan Juke build

that'd be a little different

yeah

and then we had

you'd have to go on the facebook and look

but we had the guy that remember I was talking about

how I got my old Datsun out of a

1800's cheese factory

the guy that I got it from

actually posted the 59

Austin Healy Bug Eye Sprite that I painted

and he said

that since I've painted it

it's been

backed into twice

I don't know how somebody hits

a Viper Red Austin Healy Bug Eye Sprite

it's like a beacon of light

in the parking lot

but

I'm guessing because

the old British car is only about

24 inches tall you know what I mean

they're about this big

they look like something

Stuart Little would drive

but so I imagine in like all these

big American cars you can't even see

it behind you

yeah

you probably have two of them stacked on top of one another

and you still never see it over an escalate hood

right

yeah

two of them stacked together is still only 50 horsepower

I'm pretty sure

downhill with the wind yeah

so we'll keep

putting posts up like that you guys share stuff

we'd love to talk about whatever you're working on

we're getting stuff out there

on Facebook, Instagram

you know wherever you want to look

I don't think we've quite committed ourselves

to the TikTok yet but

we're in other places

yeah

we'll see

yeah you can only spread yourself

so thin

oh man I seen a C8 the other day

yesterday

marketplace that I really want to buy

but

it's like got a matte grey wrap on it

oh looks so good

I'm just

I really like those cars I don't know why

did you see

the concept car that Corvette came out with

yeah

the what they call it the vision

or something like that

well I think

it's called the concept CX or something

oh yeah the X yeah I'm thinking of something else

the gas part

the gas portion

of because I think it's a hybrid

I don't know if the streetcar is a hybrid

or it's just electric and then the race car

was the hybrid

but whatever the gas portion they were using

was a 2 liter

V8

dual overhead cam

twin turbo

making 800 horse

2 liter

I have to say I

I love small displacement

V8

I know I want to hear that thing

that sound like an F1 car

yeah that sounds

yeah it's got to it's got to sound

just nuts

imagine that with like zero

like just zero is also just like wide open

it's got to sound bananas

I think I was just super excited about that

because it's the styling what it is

bananas like

like

the future is now

those guys at Corvette

yeah I mean

a dream job would be working at some place like

Corvette where you can just

let's make the coolest thing we possibly can

like and here's all the

resources in front of you you ever would need

that would be bananas

but then you're just stuck

with like Corvettes too right I don't know

I don't know if that's the answer what do you think

I think they

fun did you I think they

they beat the with the ZR1 didn't they

beat the Nuremberg ring production car

time and they didn't even

have a race car driver driving the car

in the record lap

yeah they had an engineer driving

and they I think it was they beat

the GTD

oh yeah it was the American

car that they beat

but okay there is there's some

like discrepancy I've seen it

is where the

supposedly

the the ZR1 was on a

wet lap it was like a wet lap so it

was they said it was like even

10 it should have been 10 seconds faster

but it just barely beat this GTD

but

I think it's really weird like this Mustang

it's not they call it a Mustang

this GTD but it's not it's a purpose

built must it's a purpose built race car

it's not really a there's nothing really

Mustang about it except for how it looks

$315,000

or something

and I think it was you can buy it you can buy

a 06 Corvette and a ZR1

Corvette for the price you can buy a GTD

like I don't know

if the value is there if a ZR1

kicking this thing's ass and you can buy

another car on top of it

like that's Benaz

well there's your diehard Ford guy

today

BA and ANES

I guess that

yeah right

when had it right man

when had it right

yeah

what is it about the C8s that gets

you so much

I don't know

I've always loved like

I've loved

Ferraris like

I've always loved Ferraris since I was a

kid every like every new one that came out

and I not every model but like

the rear engine Ferraris they just

I don't know why they do it

for me the shape

just like you seeing it go down the road

it doesn't look like traffic it looks

like it looks like a race car

going down the road like anything

mid-engine is really really cool to me

it's just a matter of what's obtainable

and what's

what's a good

driving obtainable

mid-engine car

the reason that car specifically speaks

to me is

if I you say you're buying a used one

for let's say you can buy use them for like

60 grand I don't think I could

build a car that could do what that car

does for 60 grand and this is just

something that's a base model that come

you know you can buy it and it's

you're driving it it's done

so it can only improve from there as far

as a driving experience from my eyes

as long as you're okay with it being

a paddle shift and not a fully manual transmission

which I hear they might

come back with in the

in the next generation or something like that

but I'm not really sure anyways

that it's not really

a make or break for me as far as being a manual transmission

or not the paddle shift is really really cool

you're not I don't think depending on who you are

or what who you talked to I don't think you're

able to shift as fast as a paddle shift

transmissions you know double clutch paddle shift

transmission but no way

it's like a stock C8

it's like almost 500 horse

in the motors behind you you're kicking ass

you're kicking a lot of cars ass just

with a stock C8 you know

and it just gets better from there I don't know

I just I really really dig it and then this

the specifically the

the C8s that are that still

have the pushrod motor in it it's like

some of them like

they still sound like the old Corvette

and in like an American car but it has

when it drives on the road it looks like a Ferrari

now granted the

06s and the ZR ones they sound

exotic but it's almost

like getting too far away from like it to me

the the pushrod C8

is like a middle ground as far as like

sounding like an old Corvette

and looking like something

way way farther forward

than what you know what it sounds like so

I think it's just a cool balance

of all the worlds

that I kind of dig you know

it's gonna sound really really

really rowdy and look really really

nuts I

I don't know I want to slam it have a lot of exhaust

you know all the cool stuff

cool kid stuff

the pushrod motor keeps it the American

supercar American I think you know

yeah

yeah I mean as for as much as I

love these flat-plane crank

motor dual rear cam motors they sound

really really cool they crank they rev like

crazy but

you know it's just the to me I like

the mix of

the old and the new to me that's like

my version of the old and the new as far as that car

goes you know it's just one car

not like

there's usually a lot of hate with the

Corvette owners as far as like if either you

love the C8s or you hate them you know

I don't

I don't hate them but I am going to bang the gavel

and say that I have decided

that they call

it a Corvette but it's still just a

125 Pontiac

yeah yeah definitely I kind of wanted

to like take the badging

off and put fiero on it just to see if

people would be like

what is that I'm like that's just a new fiero man

it is

just a new fiero space frame rear engine

come on her mid engine

they start on fire

hey now that was just

actually that's kind of funny

no they actually

had stop stop sale on

06 and ZR ones because they start on fire

there's an intake

that's right below the

fuel neck

and it stays on if it's hot

and you turn the vehicle off so people

are drip you know a little bit of dripper or

gas vapor and it'll start up it'll

light up

I have a fiero starting on fire

first-hand story

oh

so I

worked at a body shop and

like a smaller small town

body shop and I

walk around with this fiero emblem

tattooed on the back of my leg so everybody

kind of has an idea that I may

have been a fiero guy at some point

and

kind of you know

back backwards with guns and stuff somebody

came in to get some work done on

their fiero that they got

I think they got rear-ended in it

and

they didn't really know where to go and they

came to the shop and they were talking to the owner

and he goes I have

the definitive fiero guy

working here so he was like we can take care

of this I'm sure he can handle whatever your car

needs so

they brought this fiero

and the guy had to come and talk to me talk fieros

for a while just feel out if I had a clue

or if I just was some you know one

of the many people with fiero tattoos

out in the world and

he brought the car

he brought the car in and I

had to do a bunch of stuff just to

freshen it up because it was a

86

I believe

or an 85 GT or something like that but

I didn't headliner

in it and you know took care of some wiring

on the inside and just did little

stuff and then

obviously the paint and body work but I had it

on the frame rack and I was

pulling the frame out on it

and when I was

pulling the frame on the frame rack

there was apparently some wires pinched and when

I was pulling it loose

one of the positive wires grounded

and it was not fused it was like something

the owner had put in and it

lit the wire

wiring harness on fire

and I'm the only person in the shop

everybody else it was kind of like

I could tell stories about that place but it was

like a little gang and so they all

would like go to lunch together

and I'd be working

and whatever and I was on the frame

rack this thing lights on fire I'm the only person

in the shop I go get

a fire extinguisher

and I put the fire out because

there's a wiring sometimes

water isn't the best for electrical fires

so I

put the fire out disconnected the battery

and

they get back from lunch and I go

they're like what's that smell and I was like

freaking Fiero lit on fire on the frame rack

surprise surprise

and the owner actually chastised me

for putting the fire out he goes

if there's a fire in this shop you let it

burn down and it's worth more insurance money

than it is

together

that's funny

not funny but Jesus that's terrible

I will advise you though

if you fix a man's Fiero

and he finds out where you live

because I used to live on a pretty

busy corner so

everybody like always saw my stuff sitting outside

but if you fix a guy's Camaro and you live

on a busy corner he will just surprise

show up at your house all the time

just to talk

so keep an eye out

for that

okay we'll keep the Fiero

people at bay

yeah nothing like having

your wife and your mother-in-law

in the garage and you got some old guy pulling up

in a Model T and talking

and making comments about how women need to be

in the kitchen and the garage is for men

and stuff it's really

super comfortable situation

for everybody

yeah

so why don't you tell everybody

where to find you online if they want to see

what you're doing at Hungry Hollow

oh yeah

I have Instagram

Hungry Hollow Customs

we do have a Facebook page but my personal

Facebook page is linked with my Instagram

so Quentin Strack on Facebook

if you want to follow me there

I also have a YouTube channel

Hungry Hollow Customs

we have a few videos up

videos we did

on the Mustang here

other than that

right here on fucking cars

haha

alright and then you can catch me on Instagram

TikTok

Facebook

YouTube definitely

Tereshark TV easy to find

there's a lot of stuff on there

I've been doing a lot of live stream so if you're just bored on a weekend

you want to see some guy

working on something a lot of times I'll just

while I'm filming a video

I'll also have a live stream going so I can kind of chat

with the people that tune in

talk about what's going on

you're a YouTube pro

I am going to attempt to be a YouTube

pro so

I think I have more subscribers

than there are

I think I have more subscribers than there are people

in the town I live in

so that's a start

well

yeah hell yeah

we're going to keep fucking with cars so you should too

yeah keep fucking with cars people

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