Car buying horror stories take center stage as hosts share their wild experiences with used cars, from brake failures to unexpected VIN discrepancies. Listeners will hear about a friend's near-miss with a faulty Audi and a comical tale of a 72 Cutlass that turned out to be a stolen vehicle. The episode is filled with relatable anecdotes, laughter, and a few lessons learned about the perils of purchasing used cars. The hosts also touch on their current projects and the challenges of automotive restoration.
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But it doesn’t stop there—after the horror stories, we shift gears and talk about life after the breakdown: the junkyard finds, parts salvaging, and the strange afterlife of cars that didn’t survive the road. Plus, Quintin gives his unfiltered thoughts on the new Corvettes—love ‘em or hate ‘em, you’ll want to hear this take.
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Yeah, so I was thinking we could talk about some of these, like, buying car horror stories.
Yeah, I only have a couple, like one for myself.
That's, I mean, it's really nothing too crazy.
I have one with another buddy of mine that it's a pretty good story.
Well, they don't know how to be ours.
What happened to your buddy?
Yeah, right. Yeah, for sure.
He, so we went up to, I think it was like Tomahawk or rent.
It was like an hour and a half or hour 45 away.
And there's like a Volkswagen or an Audi, like an late 80s, early 90s.
It was just a real shit box, right?
But we get there and he's like, yeah, we're just going to drive it home.
And we get going and there's like literally no brakes at all.
There's like just a faint amount of what, what was left of the e-brake.
And it was an hour and a half, hour 45 minute.
It was a diesel too, so it was just smoking like crazy.
It was, I have faint memories of it, but it was just, I'm just glad he was driving because it was very not, it was not safe at all.
I don't recommend.
I've lost brakes on quite a few cars, so I kind of get the feeling.
Yeah, I mean, you can navigate it without traffic, but with traffic.
If that's a pretty hard thing to do.
Was it a manual at least?
Yeah, it was a manual.
So I mean, you could at least grab a gear and slow down quite a bit, but it wasn't stopping.
Yeah, that's not good.
Speaking of losing brakes in my tundra, just over a year ago, I was working about a half an hour from home and I was driving down the highway in the morning, you know, 70 miles an hour.
And I, there, there's like, we're starting to get into like a school zone, not school zone, but where the buses were picking kids up and the bus was pulling over.
So everybody, of course, like locks up their brakes in front of me because they see the lights come on in the bus.
And so there's like three cars ahead of me, they all just slam the brakes, the bus lights come on in the other lane.
I go to hit the brakes in the tundra and foot goes to the floor.
I blow a rubber brake line on the front end and I had to, because I'm like in a 4600 pound truck.
I had to quick weave out into the lane because there was like telephone pole on the right side in the ditch.
So I had to weave into the middle of the road and then like squeeze between the bus and the cars.
And then I went around the front car and kind of like just put it into the ditch and pulled over and there was just brake fluid everywhere in my wheel.
Well, my wheel was soaked that blew a rubber line.
I was only like two miles from work.
What a dick driving like a dick.
Well, I made sure to pull over and like have my flashers on and wait for everybody to go by.
So it was like obviously I was fixing something and then or there was a problem.
And then after everybody passed and I felt shameful and then all the kids at the other bus stop were still staring at me.
I just limped it to work like the two miles and just drove real slow, but the tundra's an automatic.
So of course I'm like driving the column shift three, two, one.
And then just like trying to only use rear brakes to park it.
You have to drive in through a dealership parking lot to get to the body shop and you're like trying not to hit any expensive new cars.
But borrowed my managers.
I borrowed my manager's coven and the comments went and got a brake line, changed it and bled it on lunch and then I was good to drive home.
Me and my wife did. It was just going to be a personal project four or five years ago or something like that.
And I was all excited about it. We went to go pick it up and it wasn't like super nice car.
It was just something that we could I wanted to turn it into a coupe and chop it and stuff.
So we go to pick it up and the guy that we bought it from he's got this homemade crane on the back of his pickup.
And it's like, it's janky, right?
We basically he basically lifted the whole because the car the wheels wouldn't turn in and they used to turn, you know, that old story.
So, yeah, rear ends completely locked up.
So he's like basically lifting the entire car up onto this trailer.
It was very, very sketchy. And then the roads on the way home where there were no shoulders at all.
It was dark, dear everywhere.
So we can only go like 40 miles an hour tops on the way home and it was like a two hour drive on a good day.
So it was a I think we got home in like midnight or something, you know, those rides go.
Oh, yeah. Yeah, we've had plenty of those.
When I was a teenager still in high school, a friend of mine saw this pair of Jeep Cherokees, like the early 90s XJs, like 89, 90.
And stopped at the lady's house and knocked on the door because they just had for sale on them.
They didn't say any information.
We're like, hopefully they're cheap.
So she sold us two XJs, both running and driving for $1,000.
Because this was like 2006, 2007.
And so my buddy paid 600 for the nice one. I paid 400 for the less nice one.
And on the drive home, we, how did we do that?
I think, I think we, since we had a drive there in a vehicle, we took his vehicle home and then we went back and got the second Jeep for me.
And on the drive home, I'm doing 45 miles an hour on a county road.
And right as I cross a bridge, all of a sudden, bang, I go down the wheel hops up in the air, the front wheel, and it just passes me going down the highway.
And then I lock up the brakes as hard as I can.
And I ground the rotor for about like 50 yards down the road and then pulled off onto the shoulder on three wheels.
And then we couldn't find the wheel.
It had rolled like almost a mile.
It went over, it went over a railroad track.
It went through like three people's yards and then it hit a tree right before it went in the Wisconsin River.
A guy saw us on the side of the road and he's like, what are you doing?
And I was like, oh, we lost a wheel. I can't find it.
And I was trying to figure out how to jack the vehicle up and all that.
And so he got on a four wheel and rode around.
He goes, I found it about like 20 yards from going into the river.
It was leaning on a tree, but I think thankfully our chase vehicle had a floor jack in it
or we had to call somebody or whatever.
And then we went around and there wasn't any tight lug nuts on the whole Jeep.
So I called the lady and she goes, oh, you know what?
My son did change the wheels on it a while ago.
So of course I tortured everybody that rode in my car.
Every time we'd drive past that spot, I would go, hey, my wheel fell off here.
And then I'd point out the grind, the grind line and the thing.
And so I got to the point where it was like a regular joke.
Like anybody that was riding with me, they'd be like, hey, did your wheel fall off here?
Oh, that's so funny.
It's like old people stories driving down the road and you get the same story every time,
but you're like not old.
I don't know. I feel old.
I had another one of those stories where you tell somebody every time you go by there.
It was, we were out in one of my, I think it was my first 240SX and my friends and I,
we used to go out on Friday night and there'd be like all the street racers in town
meeting up and driving around and stoplight to stoplight cruising grand avas that we used to call it.
And I pulled up, I pulled up in my primer 240SX and this catfish style 4th gen Camaro pulls up next to me
and he's revving it up and revving it up.
The light goes green. We both floor it and right after we floor it in the oncoming lane
on the other side of the split road, cop lights go on.
He saw us both tear out of the stoplight and this Camaro is like loud as can be.
So we go tear it off. I see the lights because my passenger spotted it
because I was like, you know, trying to go forward and not hit anybody.
My passenger spots, he goes, there's a cop.
So I quick dive off the road while the Camaro thinks we're still racing
and I go like a block back. I take a left. I take a right on the next one
and I just ended up stuffing it at the end of a dead end road and like parking in between the cars
and shutting all the lights off and we all reclined our chairs and laid back
and then the cop, we see him, the lights go cruising
because it's dark enough you can see him kind of above the houses and whatever.
We see the lights go cruising. He chases the Camaro down
and we waited like a good 10, 15 minutes and then pulled out and drove real quiet, real slow
and drove home and then on the way home we see the cop had a couple of motorcycles pulled over.
He must have not caught the Camaro but it was ticked off enough that he pulled somebody over.
He had like two motorcycles pulled over on the side of the highway.
So after that, anytime we drove through that intersection, I'm like, hey, I ran from the cops here.
Nice.
Yeah, I don't have any other like buying car stories.
I do have other stories of being like stuck on the side of the road for sure.
Like the truck I had air ride on, we, at one point I redid something with the air ride
and I ended up, the brackets I welded onto the frame for the air tank broke
or I can't remember how something broke or it broke off the air tank.
Somehow the air tank fell.
I don't remember how it all happened or whatever but it ended up grinding off the petcock on the bottom
and I was like totally out of air on the side of the road.
I laid out and this was a body drop.
So it was laying rocker on the side of the road.
That was a really good time.
People had to go back to Fleet Farm which was like our, it was probably 30 minutes away
just to get some fittings and like luckily I didn't have the bed enclosed
because if the bed was enclosed, I have no idea how I would have gotten it together.
Like I have no idea.
It'd still be sitting there maybe, I don't know.
It lives there now.
Right.
Yeah.
I don't know how many side of the roads.
I mean I had like a, yesterday we saw a guy pushing a motorcycle so we'd quick pulled over.
You know we looped around to see if he needed anything.
My wife goes do you want to see if he needs a hand?
I was like well maybe he's out of gas or something.
It looks like a pretty nice bike.
But I said yeah because there's been times when I was in Wyoming
pulled onto the highway on my KZ1000 Cafe Racer and it dies
and I had to push my motorcycle five miles down the side of the highway
because there's nothing in Wyoming.
There's nobody that's going to stop and then I just, I had to push it to the next exit
and it was five miles was the closest one.
So I had to push it all the way down and it's a 1979 Kawasaki 1000.
It's a heavy bike.
So it took me like, it took a good chunk out of my afternoon just pushing it
and then I get to this gas station.
I call some friends off the gas station phone and then they come out there
and of course when they get out there right before we load it onto their truck
I go to start the bike, it fires right up.
Ended up finding out the gas tank.
The vent wasn't working and so it was like vacuum sealing.
I'd get running for a while and it'd like vapor, vapor lock.
So to fix that I took a screwdriver and I took the cap off
and then I took a Phillips screwdriver and I hit it with a mallet really hard
and popped a hole right on the covered part of the top of the gas tank
and that made my vent.
But yeah, this guy we saw pushing the bike we're like, you need a hand?
He's like, no, no, no, I'm all good.
And I was like, okay, he's like, yeah, my bike's just so loud.
I'm going to get away from the apartments before starting it up.
That's so weird.
I would just think the neighbor's got to get used to it, but whatever.
It's just trying to be polite.
Yeah, right.
Oh man, that'd be rough having to push your bike away from the house.
It'd be really rough.
Bikes getting pushed.
Hard times and circumstances.
So I feel like I vaguely remember a car before the style line that you got now.
What did you have before that one?
Oh, I had a white Roadster thing.
It started as a 39 Chevy pickup.
And some dude like caught the roof off of it and made it a Roadster.
I traded, I got, I had a 52 Olds that I traded for that thing.
I don't know why I ended up doing that.
That was a running driving car.
Probably that's why it was.
And then I kind of, it was really ugly.
The Roadster was ugly as hell.
So I did a bunch of stuff to change that up.
Bringing that home was, I brought that home in the rain.
That sucked.
It was a Roadster.
But that was like, it was kind of rat roddy, not a rat rod,
but it was rat roddy kind of.
I don't know.
It was looking back.
It was like kind of cringy, but whatever.
It's just what I had at the time.
It was, it was fun.
You know, riding around the Roadster in the round town is pretty fun,
but it's a fair weather car.
So that straight up through this thing,
which was not running my 46.
So that's, it was a good trade, but it was still running,
trading a running driving car for a non-running car.
That's cooler is not recommended for the automotive enthusiast.
Oh, so you actually traded it for the one you have now?
Yeah.
Yep.
But it was, I put everything in.
I mean, there's no wiring that's original.
I pretty much emptied the whole car out.
You said that you were working at that last body shop before you
started your shop to get a drivetrain for this car.
What do you have in there for,
or what did you pick up for a drivetrain?
It's just a 350.
I bought a 350 for my buddy of mine for a couple hundred bucks.
It was like a nineties van motor.
There really wasn't anything too special about it.
But I got some Vortech heads and it's got a carburetor for barrel
carburetor intake with a holly on it.
And then it's got a 700 R4 overdrive transmission.
And so it's got Mustang two front suspension with just coils.
And I want to bag the front, but the back has got air ride with
a four link.
Eventually I want to air ride the whole thing,
but I want to do an engine driven compressor instead of doing
like the electric pumps that sound like crap and make a bunch
of noise and they cause a lot of, I mean,
the engine driven compressors are just like better, faster.
You can't hear.
Yeah, I can see that.
I can see that.
Yeah, I just got to plot out some time now to get some of
that stuff welded together on it because it was just now
I'm making the best out of the bad chop that the last
guy started.
And I kind of halfway finished it so I can make it a driver and
now I'm trying to make the sheet metal in the rough right.
And while I'm doing this, you can do, you know,
while I'm doing this, you might as well cut this up.
And while I'm doing this, you might as well cut that up,
you know, and then it's snowballs and now you have a
running driving car that the sheet metals all cut up.
It's like, I don't know if this is a good idea or not.
Yeah, I can see that.
So do you actually like change the chop angles and stuff like
that?
Or do you just cleaning up the work you have done?
The only thing I didn't change from the last guy was the
windshield opening.
So the windshield opening was just chopped five inches.
The whole thing was chopped five inches from that guy.
And it was actually pretty square.
Like to his, it was actually square.
So it's, it wasn't the end of the world as far as like
redoing everything, but it was just the car that these
cars themselves are very humpback.
It's not like a Buick or a Cadillac of that era where
they're a little more tucked in in the back.
Right.
The front, the front windshield, like I said, we chopped it
five inches, but I wanted to hard top it.
So you cut the top of the door off and then you
have this gap on top, this, you know, two inch gap on
top of where the door was where the roof should
probably be now.
So you hard top it and then it's, you have that
gap missing.
So I'm like, well, let's chop it some more.
Right.
So the side is chopped two more inches.
I brought the roof down on the side, the window
openings on the side.
And then the back, we tilted the, the trunk down
from the taillights down about three inches and
then moved the belt line up about 11 inches.
So it, and then put a 38 Buick back window in it,
which it's just like a 30s GM split window.
All the GMs use the same split window, I think.
The sheet metal anyways, but so it's tucked up
really, you know, really far and nice and it
looks really good.
It's just a matter of getting the, I just got
to get time on it to get the sheet metal
done.
It's just, it's right there.
It's just a matter of working on my own
stuff, you know.
Yee-haw.
Yeah.
You don't make money on your own stuff.
No.
Man, I got to, sometimes I just got to like
get it out and turn it around so you can
get a different view and like fall in love
with it a little more again, you know, that
kind of stuff.
I like how the front end's real big and
then it looks like, you know, the car's
kind of dragging away and like, you know
what I mean?
Like it's the size of it all slopes away
and like a backwards wedge.
Yeah.
It's like, it's definitely got the
speedboat stance, you know, the tail
jager speedboat.
Yeah.
So that's definitely the, I dig that a
lot, but I dig all kinds of different
flavors of stuff.
Like, I mean, like I'm definitely not a
Mustang guy, but this Mustang we're
building here is like, if I were to
have a Mustang, this is probably what
it would look like pretty close anyway,
you know.
Have you done anything on that this
week?
Yeah.
We finished up the backing plates
and just getting the little
duct in here for, I got this,
got a fill in a couple of little pieces
here for the passenger side to get
the connection up behind the
passenger headlight.
But yeah, I got that pretty much
wrapped up.
The next thing, we got the clutch
put in the, put in the Coyote
Tremix setup there.
My buddy Trapper in TC Fab right
here.
Oh, got the merch.
He's a pretty smart guy.
Yeah, yeah.
He's a pretty smart guy.
He likes Volkswagen, Audi stuff.
Like he's really into that.
So he makes me feel like I could buy
an Audi and I'd have a resource
that would like, here, just take it
to him and take care of it, you know.
I would never, usually not like a
foreign guy, but he makes me have
a little more faith in this stuff.
Yeah.
I get a little nervous about the
Euro cars.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Sometimes he's like, yeah, they're
terrible, but I know how to fix it,
you know.
I mean, we also had a Passat
wagon that lasted forever, but I
think, I think with the European
cars, you got to pick like, there's
certain really reliable engines
and transmissions and stuff like
that.
And you just got to make sure they
pick from one of the many options.
No doubt.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Trapper's like a, he's like an
old guy, I'm like, oh, I'm
going to get out the other yesterday
and it was like an hour later, we're
still, still BS.
And I was like, oh man, we got
stuff to do.
We got cars to build.
So, had to get back to work.
Is that the main thing you've had
going on in the shop this week?
Just forming some brake
cooling ducts and stuff.
Yeah.
I got that done.
I was working on this model
A. We have the four inch chop
just trying to get the roof
clico together.
So we can start moving forward with
like welding some of the parts
together.
I did get some, did get it that far
to where it's shaped is really nice.
Everything's fitting really well.
So a couple of the corners I can't
really fabricate yet until some of
the outside pieces are welded together
so you know exactly where they're
going to be in layout.
Otherwise you're just changing a
part that you made a couple different
times depending on how the roof lays
out once it's all welded together.
This is together.
It should be in the next this next
month just at least getting the
roof at least tacked together and
some of it welded together.
A little more established and then
we got to move on to the rest of
the body.
It's got some enough work to do on
the rest of the body to sheet
metal wise.
Is that the one that you're
putting the Mustang roof skin on?
Yeah.
Yep.
Yep.
Mustang roof skin backwards and
it's fitting pretty well that
tip the edge on where the flange
where it would attach to the back
of the Mustang where it would be
spot welded on.
Just tip that down to meet the
header panel and I think I'm
just going to scribe it
and like
butt weld it to that front
header panel and I think it's
going to be blended in really nice.
You're not even like it's going to
be seamless.
It should be pretty awesome.
You got to take the wind every
once in a while.
Yeah, it's definitely something
I didn't realize you could
use the front or the whole front flange
and I set it on their backwards with the flange
and I'm like, oh man, that kind of looks good
and the customer was like, yeah,
it's got a look.
So I dig it.
Does that have like a radius to it
where it crowns up in the top
or is it a pretty straight across
frame?
No, the 28, 29 is that
the cowl kind of has that big
swoop across it and it's still
it's not very straight across the top.
It does have a nice radius that kind of
it's not exactly the same as the row or is the cowl
because it would be too way too bubbly but
does have a nice radius that makes it
it makes it look like it's supposed to be there, which is
the stuff I really dig doing.
Right. Yeah, you don't want
to have like one thing be kind of just
a little weird so you're always focusing
on it every time you look at it.
Yeah, even if you're working on other
cars, just sometimes you're looking at
your other projects making like just
over at whatever point of
vantage point you have just to make sure
even some of the styling stuff you're doing is
like if you have it laid
out, sometimes I'll lay something out
style wise and then
like punch out of that one work on other
cars just to be able to
look at it from different vantage points to make sure this is the
direction we want to go
specifically on this Mustang just because
it's when you're building stuff out of sheet metal
I mean it's you only want to build it once you don't want to
build it modify it modify it modify
you know so it's just making sure you're
moving forward
accurately I guess.
Yeah, I found like a lot of
the stuff where I'm actually like
restyling something or
you know even sometimes with paint when you're laying
lines out to go with the car.
Sometimes the more time you have
between starting it and actually
like laying it out really can refine something
just by staring at it and getting like that
time you know to reflect on it
and think about something else and then kind of come back
to it and you just catch something like oh maybe
that just needs to be moved a little bit more
definitely
definitely there's times where it's
five o'clock or a little after five
or something and I'm done working
and I'm punched out but I'm just sitting here
staring at specifically this Mustang
because there's so many different variables
as far as like
the systems in the front end
making sure there's room for everything
and then while we're doing all this
it needs to look beautiful as well
so it needs to everything's got to flow
and fit together and the lines need to look right
and if you're sitting too
close to the car you're never
I don't think you're ever going to get the
the proper view and you're never
going to portray it right because you're not standing back
where everybody else that's going to be
looking at the car sees it back first
so it's got to look great from
30, 40, 50 feet
away and it's got to look even better
when you get closer.
Sometimes when you're working in like a garage
or a car outside and stare at it
you know because you need that different perspectives
for sure
roll it out look at it turn it around
and bring it back in and then stare at it
stare at the back of it for a while
you know
yeah
I was uh
digging through some old car photos
and stuff I worked on
and uh I know I mentioned before
that I think I mentioned that I put a
rocket 350 in a Toyota Supra
oh yeah nice
I found some videos of that car
um
like running and whatever
and like pictures of it with that
just a goofy big old cast iron
v8 in it but uh
speaking of
car buying horror stories
there was this one field
farmer's field we knew to go to that this guy had
you know
60 something cars out in the farmer's field
everything from like little dots and b210s
to
he had a 1950s Chrysler 300
which are like super rare now
but you know all this stuff just laying
laying out in this field
pretty much rotting away even though it's not getting
salted just years of being wet
and in the shade
he had an ario speed wagon like
one of the farm trucks and stuff like that
and uh
that's where I learned that the band was actually named after
a truck
but uh
we went down there because there was this
72 cutlass there cutlass supreme
I think
and it had uh
7000 miles on it
and we're like oh it's crazy
we're looking at it
and the whole body and the frame and everything is just
shot but
we're looking at it and we're like well
you know 7000 miles on a rocket 350
that's
you know that's a new car pretty much
even for an old small blog that's
looking in
so we
we worked with the guy and we were like we want to buy the
cutlass
and he's like okay uh 300
I think we paid 350 bucks or 500 bucks
or something like that because they had such low miles on it
on the motor so we're buying a motor
he had to put it on the trailer with
his tractor and
while he was putting it on the trailer the body
came off of the frame
and so like just the front
body mounts were holding it and he was like
cross to the car trailer
and we got it back
and uh
my brother was the one that bought it for the motor
at the time and uh
so we were like in a rush he was only visiting for a little while
we wanted to get this motor out so
we get it unloaded or we get it loaded
at like noon we drive it to our shop
which was
almost an hour drive
we tear the motor and the tranny out on the trailer
with a cherry picker and like just a lot
of maneuvering and
we get it on the ground
and start hauling
or we get the motor out and we start hauling to the junkyard
because we wanted to scrap this thing before they close
at five o'clock well we have we call on the way
we're like we're five minutes away
can you just hang out for us we're just going to drop this car
off or whatever
so the junkyard's like okay whatever
we're you know we'll leave the gate open
we pull in with this 72 cutlass
for them and uh we had
the guy gave us a title with it
and we go up they they drag it off the trailer
with the uh loader
and he goes up
to it and he's holding the title and he looks
at the dashboard and he looks at the title
and then he pops the hood open
and he looks at the firewall
and then he's still kind of looking weird
and we're all standing there getting ready to leave but we need him to give
our paperwork so we can get our 50 bucks
for scrap or whatever for this rotten car
and he's looking and then he's got the door
open he's in the car and he's looking
around and he goes he comes up to us
after after like five ten minutes
of deliberation he goes hey um
the VIN number does not match
the the VIN on the dash the one on
the title doesn't match the one on the dash
and the dash doesn't match the firewall
and the firewall
doesn't match the door
he's like you got four or five
different VIN numbers here on one car
and so we're going
so we're going wait a minute
7000 miles
and it was stuffed in the back of a farm field
this must have been a stolen car
or something at some point
oh my gosh
we had a title and it's like
there was no car there left there was no value
there and the guy just kind of looked at us
and maybe this is past the statute
of limitations this is all allegedly
this is a fictitious story
but the guy goes you know what
it's already 20 after 5
this thing is not worth anything to anybody
and clearly it's been sitting for a long time
so if somebody was looking for it
and the ship is sailed he goes
I'm crushing it first thing in the morning
just get out of here and it's even
it's even shadier it happened after hours
yeah
never checked the VIN on the engine to see if it matched
any of them but
it's still pretty funny
it really depends on the car you know
yeah so I don't know if it actually
ever had 7000 miles on that
portion of it for all I know the guy turned
the dashboard back and or it was out of
a different car or you know who knows
I would assume the cluster is probably out
of a car that was
let's make this car worth as much as we can
here it is you know
yeah it was like a hideous gold
with a green interior
the green vinyl interior
landow roof
that sounds beautiful
oh yeah
they don't make them like that anymore
but
yeah
it's pretty exciting for a little bit there
to figure out if the junkyard guy
is going to call the cops on you
right
but we decided not to
go back to that farm to buy any more cars
right
right
oh man
so what are you working on do you work on
your control arms this last week get them all finished
up jazzed up
I was cutting yesterday I was
plasma cutting out some shock tabs for it
and make it all the layouts
for that because you got a
part of the long travel and all the math on it
for the geometry you got to set the distance
between your pivot point
and your shock mount point
and then you know obviously there's from
your pivot point to where the
spindle bolts to the end of control arm
or where the ball join us and
all that changes the leverage
that the shock has on it you know they call
it a motion ratio
so
I was just making sure I'm laying that out right
and I calculated my spring rates all based on
a certain motion ratio
so I got a you know I jigged out the lower control arms
when I made them and now I'm basically
making sure I have the
shock points at the jigged out place
so and just like where we were talking
about with your roof and stuff like that
I had a shock tab in mind
and then I realized in the time
between
you know conceiving the idea
and making them I found a stronger way
to weld them on there
is just going to be more surface area weld
instead of just the tab laying on top of it
like every other control arm has it done that way
but like I said if I'm jumping
a 4600 pound truck if I can maximize
you know strength of everything
that's taking that impact the better
so I did that
cutting out lay or the overlay
panels moving slow on it
but I'm slowly taking along
on the long travel
hey
moving forward is moving forward
right
right
do you have to install that lower control arm to do that
like have everything like
installed in the proper spot
to like
I have not so I basically
have them
you know I have a lower control arm it's a completely
welded I have not put it on the vehicle
one time
it's all just math and measurements
the truck right now has a rough country
lift on it and that has a drop
cross member because it's like a differential drop
set up and so I would have to
actually like remove
all of that to mock them up
and so I'm just going to run on
good measurements and blind faith
in that I got it right
and
I mean
measuring is measuring I trust
it so and then I jigged them out so they
should go right in and then
I
should be pretty should be pretty straightforward
I'm going to have to cut the shop the upper shock mounts
and then
well then new extended ones when I'm
putting the control arms in but
hopefully that can all just be in like a three
or four day install
nice nice
I dig it
trying to decide if the upper control arms I'm going to do
tubing
or if I'm going to build them out of plate
like a plate work style
I haven't a hundred percent decided
yeah I guess
really not an advantage or disadvantage
as far as I don't know
there's less cutting and welding
with tube
yeah you didn't bend it I guess
I just don't have a tube but it's going to
bend thick enough tube
yeah I was looking up one the other day
but I have to
have to take care of the stuff I have right now I can't
buy any more tools right now
there is something fun about getting new equipment though
it's like yeah it's
addicting you want to get the new tools to
do all the cool things
and sometimes you just don't have enough
room I mean we have
6,000 square feet and I feel like I'm running out of room for
tools but there's
people that do a lot more with a lot less
you know so
yeah you
get used to having space to walk around
between things
yeah
last winter it was
we were jam packed in here because we brought in some projects
for the winter so it was
full my god it was jam packed
and you could barely walk in here for
a couple months it's nice that
it's actually cleared up you know
some say a pack shop is a
productive shop
I don't know about that
it's all in the eyes of the
holder you know
what do you got going next week
we got up the front floors
of that Brookville
I don't know if they normally
sell them
install wood up front
in front of the seat
but we're going to
I just got to get some more sheet metal here
on Tuesday
and build the front floor for
that and the transmission tunnel it's
there's really it's almost no hump
they sell an
there's a company that sells like direct sheet metal or something like that
that sells a front floor but it was
looked like way too big of a transmission hump and it was just like
seem like it's going to be
way easier just to make it so
we're going to make get that made
and finish up the welding on that Brookville
ASAP
and then jump back that would
be getting sanded down and hopefully
into epoxy then and then
get working on this mustang as well
I got to work on this
69 mustang as well that
got to work that thing in sometimes this next month
but I don't know if it's not going to be this next week at all
definitely going to jump in on that
Brookville and get the floor banged out
and get the welding done on that so
that's my goal
I can see that
we
so when I moved
from Wisconsin to Florida
I had this 93 Toyota
pickup that I was using as a daily driver
I bought it for a couple hundred bucks and
it was like I bought it for a beater
and then I fell in love with it one of those cars
$200 truck changed my whole
view on vehicles
because those like
it's got a 22 RE in it
it's a five speed manual
it's got manual locking hubs it's
four wheel drive and it's just like
it's low powered and over
built trucks so it just never
ever had a problem
and but it was super rusty
so when I moved I sold it to a friend
and then a couple years
after I moved he moved down here
and he was just making a trip up there
and he knew I was
planning to build some sort of buggy or
you know smaller
pre-runner or you know something like that
other than my truck for my kid and
I don't know
I know taking this
putting this coyote in this
Mustang is not going to be very fun
because we have to
all the headers are built and everything
but they were built so tight
that when we unbolted them
they just stayed there
there's like not a lot of movement
so we have to like dent them and ding them
and you know get all the clearances
and stuff but the starter
and the header have to go on at the same time
as the motors like
almost in but not all the way in
so it's like
it's going to be a whole thing
trying to get this thing put back together
and then I have to get the headers
chewed to the flange
chewed up so
everything is going to seal up nice and tight
so that's going to be
getting that back in there is going to be nice
but it's going to be a lot for sure
yeah they never thought there would be
a quad cam v8 in that car
mm-mm
yeah it's pretty tight
everything is very very tight that's why
the inner
the inner fender wells are unboltable
so you get removable so you can
access stuff but man it's still
like
there's still a lot of parts you need to install in the car
so we need to get the motor and transmission back in it
and then do all the fuel
pedal is like a modular
fuel pedal
it's all electronic
but there's not enough room physically
for it to be mounted
like where your foot is, like right above your foot
because it's got electric
assist steering so that motor
takes up that room and the motor had been
the engine
transmission had been moved back from factory
about three inches or so somewhere in there
so it's really the only spot that it fit
so that limits you
on your space so now I have to
cantilever
that fuel pedal
up on the day I have to have that mounted
up underneath the dash and then have another
like
carbureted style I guess you would say
fuel pedal and like push on it and have a little link
in between it's going to be a whole thing
yeah that's just to get the throttle
to work you know there's just no room for
stuff
how many times do you think you're going to have to have this engine in
and out before you're
done with the thing
I mean right now
we got the clutch and everything put in
the billet oil pump is
installed that the right injectors
so I mean hopefully
aside from fluids
and stuff
you know I want this to be
at least a fireable
maybe not fully operational
car but like
make sure that systems are checked and
possibly done
before we tear it apart
for body and paint so
this motor going in I would
love for it to be going in
and being you know
installing some more parts and doing some wiring
and it being a you know
fireable thing but
you know it's one step at a time
what are you doing for wiring
this custom stuff
Otsuka
um
American auto wire
harness I think I think that's what it is
I'm bad with remembering names of all this stuff
so I think it's American auto wire that we have
so that's something I'll be
you know able to go in
pretty easy and then come out before paint
and all that stuff and then go back in
yeah nice to have the harness made
you know the it doesn't need to be like
loop together but at least you know the corners made
for the harness so you can just you're literally pulling
out a harness and you're putting it you're
reinstalling it and it's it's it's done
kind of a thing it's just the car is at
that level where you got to install
some stuff I mean it's been taken
apart so far it was literally
an outside shell that was floating on
a frame that that was
never you know made by Ford so
just like installing some of the
Mustang Ford parts like
window trim and all this stuff like you
need to make sure all that stuff still fits
because I didn't it was originally
a coupe car and had
been converted to a
fatback not by me
it was by the last shop so
there's like you know like window
opening stuff it made me to make sure that
this the side glass
side window trim
over the over the door and all that stuff fits
good so that stuff can change if you don't
have the or just needs
to be tweaked you know the holes there the trim need to be
moved a little bit or something there's always something small that needs to happen
when you're doing roof conversion
stuff yeah I wanted to get into that I had a
67 coupe for a bit but
finding a good roof is
not an easy thing to do anymore
yeah it's spendy you probably
spend two three four five grand on a good
roof depending on how nice it is and then installing
it's a whole another thing too but
they're really not that bad like the roof conversions I remember doing a few of them
that one shop we worked at and
actually kind of phone there because they really don't go
too slow I mean usually you're cooking pretty fast on
it'd be nice if you just replace the outside rocker panels with
or the outside quarter panels with like
fastback quarter panels but if I could understand some of
those but if I could understand stitching it together you know stitching the two together down the
making a big seam down the center
cost is a factor but it was
always pretty pretty straight
forward as far as like making a coupe
fastback
yeah I mean I'm sure Ford when they made it they tried to
have as much continuity car to car so
as far as on the assembly line it would go
you know smoother
yeah I don't think they're like that anymore
no no everything's got its own specific part
but yeah
I don't know
definitely a lot of trim like even the side windows
we it's got like like the Hertz rent-a-cars had
the glass quarter windows
or not they weren't glass or plexiglass but the instead of the louvers so
we like that idea but the our
our openings were routed out so
if we're gonna make you know they don't sell the kit anymore
the kit was really cheesy and cheap
for the Hertz rent-a-car windows
so we're gonna make them out of flat glass
and recess them in a little bit and then when we were
making the putting the windows in it was like well
if we're gonna make a window it might as well make it make it fit the car
a little better so we just made the opening
follow the quarter panel down a little bit and then
move the front of the window to match the back
back glass trim so it'll basically look like a straight line
all the way up and around the car
it's a really cool effect but now we have to
we need to make trim for the
for the side window so it's basically a piece of aluminum
that's gonna be probably
it's it's it's three-quarter trim
three-quarter inch trim that goes around pretty much the all the windows so
need to make one that's cut out the side window and then
it's gonna be flat to the glass on the bottom side and then it'll be
sanded down to the shape of the body on the outside
so that's something I got to get done yet but it's just
you know all the
how do you eat an elephant one bite at a time right
so is that like an aluminum extrusion you buy and then you just form it into
what you need or is there like some sort of actual trim
probably gonna have to have
probably gonna have to have like it
like I don't know it's gonna have to be out of like a billet
pretty much I would suspect like
laser cut or
or a water jet it out of something like flat
flat plate I would think suspect
that's probably gonna be the easiest route just give them like a template
you cut it up they have a shop in town cut it out
and then I'm just gonna mount the glass and then
sand like basically shave the outside down to
to the body to get that the same effect as the rest of the trim
that's pretty sweet it's all the little touches that
my plan
yeah
so I put a post out on our on the podcast
Facebook page saying what are you working on
and we got some we got some interesting ones that people are people put in
somebody's doing a 76 280 Z
and a 93 Toyota Land Cruiser
they say they're both restorations but they run and drive
but they could definitely both use a hug
but I think we've all had cars like that
I need a hug too
right I actually
I think I responded couldn't we all use and use a hug
and then we have
we had somebody put a laundry
list of vehicles
1974 high boys
that's getting an engine axles cab and frame
a 70 a 77 C 10
needs rockers
a 51 Plymouth Cranbrook
that's it
that needs a needs a carburet build
and a new driveline made
a 67 Chrysler Newport
which he needs
a new rear axle bearings
but it drives wonderful except for that
a new rear axle bearing
a new rear axle bearing
but it drives wonderful except for that
a 1953 Ford Golden Jubilee
do you even know what that is
what if it's a tractor
what if it's a tractor Ford tractor
53 that's about right
I mean
we're gonna just go on
that sounds like
we're gonna go on that it's a tractor for right now
so he says that
he said that it needs rear axle seals so bad
it makes the Exxon Valdez
look like a minor leak
and then also a
rainbow
and then also a 62 inter
national harvester travelette
don't get me started on this
that one he's mad about
that one he's mad about
but he said at least
they've got a Toyota 4Runner
so they have something reliable
it sounds like this guy knows
how to dig a hole if you know
must have some land or something
he's got some cork
right
yeah I need to consolidate a few of those projects I think
we got another guy looking to do
a manual
Nissan Juke build
that'd be a little different
yeah
and then we had
you'd have to go on the facebook and look
but we had the guy that remember I was talking about
how I got my old Datsun out of a
1800's cheese factory
the guy that I got it from
actually posted the 59
Austin Healy Bug Eye Sprite that I painted
and he said
that since I've painted it
it's been
backed into twice
I don't know how somebody hits
a Viper Red Austin Healy Bug Eye Sprite
it's like a beacon of light
in the parking lot
but
I'm guessing because
the old British car is only about
24 inches tall you know what I mean
they're about this big
they look like something
Stuart Little would drive
but so I imagine in like all these
big American cars you can't even see
it behind you
yeah
you probably have two of them stacked on top of one another
and you still never see it over an escalate hood
right
yeah
two of them stacked together is still only 50 horsepower
I'm pretty sure
downhill with the wind yeah
so we'll keep
putting posts up like that you guys share stuff
we'd love to talk about whatever you're working on
we're getting stuff out there
on Facebook, Instagram
you know wherever you want to look
I don't think we've quite committed ourselves
to the TikTok yet but
we're in other places
yeah
we'll see
yeah you can only spread yourself
so thin
oh man I seen a C8 the other day
yesterday
marketplace that I really want to buy
but
it's like got a matte grey wrap on it
oh looks so good
I'm just
I really like those cars I don't know why
did you see
the concept car that Corvette came out with
yeah
the what they call it the vision
or something like that
well I think
it's called the concept CX or something
oh yeah the X yeah I'm thinking of something else
the gas part
the gas portion
of because I think it's a hybrid
I don't know if the streetcar is a hybrid
or it's just electric and then the race car
was the hybrid
but whatever the gas portion they were using
was a 2 liter
V8
dual overhead cam
twin turbo
making 800 horse
2 liter
I have to say I
I love small displacement
V8
I know I want to hear that thing
that sound like an F1 car
yeah that sounds
yeah it's got to it's got to sound
just nuts
imagine that with like zero
like just zero is also just like wide open
it's got to sound bananas
I think I was just super excited about that
because it's the styling what it is
bananas like
like
the future is now
those guys at Corvette
yeah I mean
a dream job would be working at some place like
Corvette where you can just
let's make the coolest thing we possibly can
like and here's all the
resources in front of you you ever would need
that would be bananas
but then you're just stuck
with like Corvettes too right I don't know
I don't know if that's the answer what do you think
I think they
fun did you I think they
they beat the with the ZR1 didn't they
beat the Nuremberg ring production car
time and they didn't even
have a race car driver driving the car
in the record lap
yeah they had an engineer driving
and they I think it was they beat
the GTD
oh yeah it was the American
car that they beat
but okay there is there's some
like discrepancy I've seen it
is where the
supposedly
the the ZR1 was on a
wet lap it was like a wet lap so it
was they said it was like even
10 it should have been 10 seconds faster
but it just barely beat this GTD
but
I think it's really weird like this Mustang
it's not they call it a Mustang
this GTD but it's not it's a purpose
built must it's a purpose built race car
it's not really a there's nothing really
Mustang about it except for how it looks
$315,000
or something
and I think it was you can buy it you can buy
a 06 Corvette and a ZR1
Corvette for the price you can buy a GTD
like I don't know
if the value is there if a ZR1
kicking this thing's ass and you can buy
another car on top of it
like that's Benaz
well there's your diehard Ford guy
today
BA and ANES
I guess that
yeah right
when had it right man
when had it right
yeah
what is it about the C8s that gets
you so much
I don't know
I've always loved like
I've loved
Ferraris like
I've always loved Ferraris since I was a
kid every like every new one that came out
and I not every model but like
the rear engine Ferraris they just
I don't know why they do it
for me the shape
just like you seeing it go down the road
it doesn't look like traffic it looks
like it looks like a race car
going down the road like anything
mid-engine is really really cool to me
it's just a matter of what's obtainable
and what's
what's a good
driving obtainable
mid-engine car
the reason that car specifically speaks
to me is
if I you say you're buying a used one
for let's say you can buy use them for like
60 grand I don't think I could
build a car that could do what that car
does for 60 grand and this is just
something that's a base model that come
you know you can buy it and it's
you're driving it it's done
so it can only improve from there as far
as a driving experience from my eyes
as long as you're okay with it being
a paddle shift and not a fully manual transmission
which I hear they might
come back with in the
in the next generation or something like that
but I'm not really sure anyways
that it's not really
a make or break for me as far as being a manual transmission
or not the paddle shift is really really cool
you're not I don't think depending on who you are
or what who you talked to I don't think you're
able to shift as fast as a paddle shift
transmissions you know double clutch paddle shift
transmission but no way
it's like a stock C8
it's like almost 500 horse
in the motors behind you you're kicking ass
you're kicking a lot of cars ass just
with a stock C8 you know
and it just gets better from there I don't know
I just I really really dig it and then this
the specifically the
the C8s that are that still
have the pushrod motor in it it's like
some of them like
they still sound like the old Corvette
and in like an American car but it has
when it drives on the road it looks like a Ferrari
now granted the
06s and the ZR ones they sound
exotic but it's almost
like getting too far away from like it to me
the the pushrod C8
is like a middle ground as far as like
sounding like an old Corvette
and looking like something
way way farther forward
than what you know what it sounds like so
I think it's just a cool balance
of all the worlds
that I kind of dig you know
it's gonna sound really really
really rowdy and look really really
nuts I
I don't know I want to slam it have a lot of exhaust
you know all the cool stuff
cool kid stuff
the pushrod motor keeps it the American
supercar American I think you know
yeah
yeah I mean as for as much as I
love these flat-plane crank
motor dual rear cam motors they sound
really really cool they crank they rev like
crazy but
you know it's just the to me I like
the mix of
the old and the new to me that's like
my version of the old and the new as far as that car
goes you know it's just one car
not like
there's usually a lot of hate with the
Corvette owners as far as like if either you
love the C8s or you hate them you know
I don't
I don't hate them but I am going to bang the gavel
and say that I have decided
that they call
it a Corvette but it's still just a
125 Pontiac
yeah yeah definitely I kind of wanted
to like take the badging
off and put fiero on it just to see if
people would be like
what is that I'm like that's just a new fiero man
it is
just a new fiero space frame rear engine
come on her mid engine
they start on fire
hey now that was just
actually that's kind of funny
no they actually
had stop stop sale on
06 and ZR ones because they start on fire
there's an intake
that's right below the
fuel neck
and it stays on if it's hot
and you turn the vehicle off so people
are drip you know a little bit of dripper or
gas vapor and it'll start up it'll
light up
I have a fiero starting on fire
first-hand story
oh
so I
worked at a body shop and
like a smaller small town
body shop and I
walk around with this fiero emblem
tattooed on the back of my leg so everybody
kind of has an idea that I may
have been a fiero guy at some point
and
kind of you know
back backwards with guns and stuff somebody
came in to get some work done on
their fiero that they got
I think they got rear-ended in it
and
they didn't really know where to go and they
came to the shop and they were talking to the owner
and he goes I have
the definitive fiero guy
working here so he was like we can take care
of this I'm sure he can handle whatever your car
needs so
they brought this fiero
and the guy had to come and talk to me talk fieros
for a while just feel out if I had a clue
or if I just was some you know one
of the many people with fiero tattoos
out in the world and
he brought the car
he brought the car in and I
had to do a bunch of stuff just to
freshen it up because it was a
86
I believe
or an 85 GT or something like that but
I didn't headliner
in it and you know took care of some wiring
on the inside and just did little
stuff and then
obviously the paint and body work but I had it
on the frame rack and I was
pulling the frame out on it
and when I was
pulling the frame on the frame rack
there was apparently some wires pinched and when
I was pulling it loose
one of the positive wires grounded
and it was not fused it was like something
the owner had put in and it
lit the wire
wiring harness on fire
and I'm the only person in the shop
everybody else it was kind of like
I could tell stories about that place but it was
like a little gang and so they all
would like go to lunch together
and I'd be working
and whatever and I was on the frame
rack this thing lights on fire I'm the only person
in the shop I go get
a fire extinguisher
and I put the fire out because
there's a wiring sometimes
water isn't the best for electrical fires
so I
put the fire out disconnected the battery
and
they get back from lunch and I go
they're like what's that smell and I was like
freaking Fiero lit on fire on the frame rack
surprise surprise
and the owner actually chastised me
for putting the fire out he goes
if there's a fire in this shop you let it
burn down and it's worth more insurance money
than it is
together
that's funny
not funny but Jesus that's terrible
I will advise you though
if you fix a man's Fiero
and he finds out where you live
because I used to live on a pretty
busy corner so
everybody like always saw my stuff sitting outside
but if you fix a guy's Camaro and you live
on a busy corner he will just surprise
show up at your house all the time
just to talk
so keep an eye out
for that
okay we'll keep the Fiero
people at bay
yeah nothing like having
your wife and your mother-in-law
in the garage and you got some old guy pulling up
in a Model T and talking
and making comments about how women need to be
in the kitchen and the garage is for men
and stuff it's really
super comfortable situation
for everybody
yeah
so why don't you tell everybody
where to find you online if they want to see
what you're doing at Hungry Hollow
oh yeah
I have Instagram
Hungry Hollow Customs
we do have a Facebook page but my personal
Facebook page is linked with my Instagram
so Quentin Strack on Facebook
if you want to follow me there
I also have a YouTube channel
Hungry Hollow Customs
we have a few videos up
videos we did
on the Mustang here
other than that
right here on fucking cars
haha
alright and then you can catch me on Instagram
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YouTube definitely
Tereshark TV easy to find
there's a lot of stuff on there
I've been doing a lot of live stream so if you're just bored on a weekend
you want to see some guy
working on something a lot of times I'll just
while I'm filming a video
I'll also have a live stream going so I can kind of chat
with the people that tune in
talk about what's going on
you're a YouTube pro
I am going to attempt to be a YouTube
pro so
I think I have more subscribers
than there are
I think I have more subscribers than there are people
in the town I live in
so that's a start
well
yeah hell yeah
we're going to keep fucking with cars so you should too
yeah keep fucking with cars people
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