Will TRUE CUSTOM PAINT Ever Come Back? | F_cking Cars Podcast Ep 24
About this episode
A deep dive into the messy reality of modern swaps and custom builds: one host wrestles with a Coyote Mustang project where every “kit” assumption breaks down—tight AC compressor clearance, remote-mounting parts, adding an oil cooler for a ProCharger, and endless fitting/line headaches. The other tackles a Honda case swap that cranks but won’t fire, debating immobilizer vs ignition/fuel pulse while using wiring diagrams and even ChatGPT as a sounding board. The conversation then drifts into paint dreams (chameleon + tribal/airbrush graphics), DMV/custom plate hassles, and broader takes on EV braking, future car design, and whether iconic models (like the MR2) are coming back.
Welcome back to the F_cking Cars Podcast, where Ethan and Quintin dive deep into the builds, breakdowns, and bullshit that shape real shop life. Every week we tackle the projects on our lifts, the chaos happening in the automotive world, and the stories that only come from long nights in the garage. From custom fabrication to wild engine swaps, questionable Craigslist finds, and the philosophy behind why we keep doing this to ourselves—nothing is off-limits.
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Mustang
"Lately I've been just scratching my brain plumbing this coyote in this Mustang. It's Pretty overwhelming"
They’re talking about a Ford Mustang project where the engine has been changed. Because the new engine doesn’t fit the same way as the original, they have to use special parts and adapters to make everything work.
They’re working on a Ford Mustang that’s been fitted with a different engine (a “coyote” swap). In this context, the Mustang is the chassis/platform the swap is being engineered around, so packaging constraints drive what parts and adapters are needed.
coyote swap
"Oh, yeah, I mean every kit you buy that's for a coyote swap is like Yeah, it works with a coyote in a pickup truck with a lot of room, you know"
A “coyote swap” is when someone puts a Ford Coyote V8 into a car that didn’t originally have it. Even if there are kits, you still often run into fitment problems with things like brackets, hoses, and clearance.
A “coyote swap” usually means installing a Ford Coyote V8 (from the Mustang GT/other Coyote applications) into a different vehicle or chassis. The term matters because swap kits exist, but the fitment and clearance issues can vary a lot depending on the chassis and accessories.
limitations of this motor
"It's just the limitations of this motor. I mean, it's it's not like a You know Because it's close to the art Morrison chassis."
They’re saying the engine itself makes the project harder because of where its parts are located. When you swap engines, those locations can interfere with the car’s frame or other components.
They’re pointing out that the engine’s physical packaging and accessory layout create constraints. In swaps, “motor limitations” often means where the accessories sit relative to the frame, which then forces changes to cooling, A/C, and routing.
Art Morrison chassis
"Because it's close to the art Morrison chassis. It's an art Morrison problem or it's a coyote problem"
Art Morrison makes custom car chassis. In this project, the chassis shape affects how much space there is for the engine and A/C parts, which is why they’re struggling with clearances.
Art Morrison Enterprises is known for building custom chassis for hot rods and restomods. Here, the “Art Morrison chassis” is relevant because its geometry and placement of structural members determine how close the engine and A/C components can sit.
ac compressor
"...like the ac compressor It's so close to the frame that the vintage ac Adapters they don't that screw onto the compressor. There's not enough room for them"
The A/C compressor is the part that makes your air conditioning work. They’re having trouble because the compressor sits too close to the frame, so the usual adapter pieces don’t have enough room.
The A/C compressor is the component that pressurizes the refrigerant system. In this build, it’s “so close to the frame” that standard vintage A/C adapter parts don’t fit, forcing them to use different adapters and reroute connections.
vintage AC adapters
"...the vintage ac Adapters they don't that screw onto the compressor. There's not enough room for them"
These are special adapter brackets meant to connect an older A/C setup to a compressor. In their case, the adapters don’t line up because there isn’t enough physical space.
“Vintage A/C adapters” refers to aftermarket bracket/adapter pieces designed to mate older A/C components or systems to newer compressor mounting points. The key point is that adapter design is often specific to compressor models and mounting geometry, so swap fitment can break the intended compatibility.
remote mount
"So now I have to remote mount the Uh, basically the charging system the charging ports for the ac"
Remote mounting means putting a part somewhere else instead of where it normally goes. They’re doing it to get the A/C connections to fit when there’s not enough room in the original spot.
Remote mounting means relocating components away from their usual location, typically to gain clearance or improve hose/routing geometry. Here, they’re remote-mounting parts of the A/C “charging system” so the fittings and connectors can be installed despite tight space near the frame and compressor.
oil cooler
"And then the oil cooler and all that shit was like I didn't realize that we needed needed an oil cooler because it The aftermarket says you don't nearly need one."
An oil cooler is an extra radiator-like part that helps keep engine oil from getting too hot. They’re saying they didn’t think they’d need one, but the project led them to consider it anyway.
An oil cooler is an aftermarket heat exchanger that helps control engine oil temperature. They mention an oil cooler because the aftermarket initially said it wasn’t necessary, but their decision-making suggests the swap’s operating conditions or packaging/heat management needs changed their plan.
pro-charge
"But then we decided to pro-charge it and now it's like, okay, we should probably be putting a cooler on it too."
“Pro-charge” means they’re adding a forced-induction setup—basically a supercharger—to make the engine breathe harder. More boost usually means you need extra cooling so things don’t overheat.
“Pro-charge” here refers to adding a supercharger system (often a belt-driven forced-induction setup) to increase engine airflow and power. It’s typically paired with additional cooling hardware because the extra boost raises temperatures.
remote oil filter
"Luckily, I didn't have any the remote oil filter already mounted or anything like that because it would have been in the way of Lines to the cooler..."
A remote oil filter relocates the oil filter away from the engine to improve packaging and sometimes cooling/flow. It requires additional lines and fittings, which can complicate routing—especially when adding other components like coolers.
lines to the cooler
"...it would have been in the way of Lines to the cooler and then I had to make them out for the cooler too..."
They’re talking about the hoses/pipes that carry fluid to and from the cooler. If the lines are routed poorly, they can get in the way or cause leaks.
“Lines to the cooler” refers to the plumbing/hose routing for a cooling system (commonly charge-air cooling or oil/coolant cooling depending on the setup). Proper line routing matters for avoiding heat soak, leaks, and interference with other underbody components.
immobilizer
"...I don't know if it's a wiring issue or if it's the immobilizer for the key... I took the immobilizer and the key out of the donor car..."
An immobilizer is the car’s anti-theft “permission slip.” If it doesn’t recognize the key, the car may crank but won’t start because it blocks fuel and/or spark.
An immobilizer is an anti-theft system that prevents the engine from starting unless it recognizes the correct key/transponder. When swapping parts between cars, immobilizer components (key/ECU/receiver) often must be matched or re-paired, or you’ll get a crank/no-start with no fuel/ignition.
donor car
"I took the immobilizer and the key out of the donor car..."
A donor car is basically a second car they take parts from. It can help with swaps, but you still have to wire and match the parts correctly.
A “donor car” is a second vehicle used as a parts source for swaps—here, immobilizer/key components. Using a donor can solve compatibility issues, but it also introduces wiring/pinning and immobilizer matching challenges.
wiring diagrams and pin charts
"I was Looking over wiring diagrams and pin charts and stuff all last night trying to figure it out"
These are reference documents that show which wire goes to which plug pin. If even one connection is wrong, the car can fail to start.
Wiring diagrams and pin charts map which wires connect to which connector pins on ECUs and modules. For immobilizer/no-start issues, getting the correct pin-to-pin connections is critical—mis-pinning can prevent the car from authorizing fuel/ignition.
e25 pin
"...what you need to do is you need to make sure you have a hot power going into this e25 pin and I'm like"
They’re talking about a specific electrical connector pin. If that pin doesn’t get the right power, the car’s systems may not work even if everything else is connected.
“E25 pin” appears to be a specific connector pin on a module/ECU referenced during troubleshooting. The key idea is that the speaker is checking for a “hot power” feed at that exact pin, which can determine whether the immobilizer/ignition/fuel systems get authorization.
NEP
"[201.1s] Okay, that's designated as NEP. What does NEP stand for? It's like, oh, that's a constant positive [206.7s] I'm like, okay. I just cross-checked you to google and on all sorts of websites says that that's the injector for the ignition pulse"
NEP is a label for a specific wire/pin used in diagnostics. In this conversation, it seems connected to signals the engine uses to start and run, but the exact meaning isn’t fully spelled out.
NEP is referenced as a designation for a specific diagnostic pin/signal, but the transcript doesn’t clearly define the acronym. The context implies it’s related to an ignition-related pulse/injector signal used during troubleshooting.
injectors
"[206.7s] I'm like, okay. I just cross-checked you to google and on all sorts of websites says that that's the injector for the ignition pulse [288.4s] But it said because you would have had fuel and I said no no no just because I have fuel pressure [293.0s] Doesn't mean the injectors are pulsing and opening up into the chain"
Injectors are the fuel-spraying valves controlled by the ECU. For an engine to start, injectors must not only have fuel pressure available, but also receive electrical pulses to open and spray fuel into the cylinders.
tachometer
"[215.2s] Pin which is for like a tachometer [218.7s] Sure [219.1s] I'm like, why are you trying to tell me for power there and it like argued with me"
A tachometer shows how fast the engine is spinning. If a diagnostic pin is tied to tach signals, it can help confirm whether the engine is actually producing ignition activity.
A tachometer measures engine RPM (revolutions per minute). The transcript suggests a specific pin signal is associated with tach output, which is useful for diagnosing whether the engine is generating ignition events.
ECU
"We it says I don't think it's your mobilizer because because I I uh [240.6s] The ecu just grounds the fuel pump relay to turn the fuel pump on and so I grounded that pin and the fuel pump kicks on"
The ECU is the engine’s computer. It sends signals to parts like the fuel pump and ignition system so the engine can start and run correctly.
ECU stands for Engine Control Unit. It’s the car’s main computer that controls engine functions like fuel delivery and ignition timing by grounding or powering specific circuits.
fuel pump relay
"[240.6s] The ecu just grounds the fuel pump relay to turn the fuel pump on and so I grounded that pin and the fuel pump kicks on [247.4s] I'm like, okay"
The fuel pump relay is like a remote-controlled switch for the fuel pump. When the engine computer tells it to turn on, the fuel pump gets power and starts pumping gas.
A fuel pump relay is an electrically controlled switch that supplies power to the fuel pump. When the ECU grounds the relay control circuit, it closes the relay and the pump runs to build fuel pressure.
ignition problem
"[278.2s] And it goes. Oh, no, it shouldn't be your mobilizer because if you tricked it and it didn't fire [283.4s] then it [285.3s] It's it's another problem. It's ignition problem [287.2s] And I'm like, wait a minute"
An ignition problem means the engine isn’t getting spark at the right time. So even if fuel is present, the engine can’t actually light off.
An ignition problem means the engine isn’t producing the spark (or correct ignition signal) needed to ignite the air-fuel mixture. Even with fuel pressure present, if the ignition system isn’t firing, the engine may crank but never start or pop.
fuel injector pulse
"It cuts fuel injector pulse and in ignition. So you have no spark and no fuel injectors pulsing"
Fuel injectors don’t spray continuously—they get quick “on” signals. If those signals stop, the engine won’t get the fuel it needs to start.
“Fuel injector pulse” refers to the short electrical signal that tells a fuel injector when to spray fuel. If the ECU stops injector pulsing, the engine may crank but won’t start because the cylinders aren’t getting fuel at the right time.
spark
"I haven't actually pulled a plug yet and checked spark because I just hate but trying to check spark on coil-on plugs"
Spark is what lights the fuel-air mixture in the engine. If there’s no spark, the engine can crank but still won’t start.
“Spark” is the high-voltage electrical event that ignites the air-fuel mixture in each cylinder. No spark (or weak spark) can mimic fuel problems, which is why checking spark is a key step in troubleshooting a no-start condition.
coil-on plugs
"because I just hate but trying to check spark on coil-on plugs because you're like"
Instead of one coil for all cylinders, coil-on-plugs puts a small coil right on each spark plug. If one coil fails, that cylinder can misfire or not spark at all.
“Coil-on plugs” (COP) is an ignition setup where each spark plug has its own ignition coil mounted directly on top of the plug. It improves packaging and can help with ignition accuracy, but diagnosing misfires often means testing individual coils and plug/boot connections.
fuel pressure
"Just because I have fuel pressure doesn't mean I have injectors pulsing fuel into the cylinders"
Fuel pressure is how strongly fuel is pushed to the engine. But if the injectors aren’t commanded to spray, the engine still won’t start even with good pressure.
“Fuel pressure” is the amount of pressure in the fuel rail that feeds the injectors. It can be normal even when injectors aren’t pulsing, so pressure alone isn’t proof that the engine is actually receiving fuel during cranking.
mechanics shortage
"I gotta tell you there's the shortage of mechanics, so it'd probably be okay Yeah, I mean for real I There's going to be a time where people like well, they're not coming from my job."
A mechanics shortage means there aren’t enough car repair workers. The hosts suggest robots might help with some tasks, but trucks still need proper maintenance.
A “mechanics shortage” means there aren’t enough trained technicians to service and repair vehicles. In the transcript, it’s used to argue that automation (robots) could fill some gaps, but heavy-duty vehicles still require real-world service.
change oil
"Like they can change oil. They'll be able to do that easy right Yeah, I don't know. I think that the cars will be so disposable that they're not going to care about mechanics, but"
Changing oil is regular maintenance where you drain old engine oil and put in fresh oil. It helps the engine run smoothly, and the hosts are joking that robots could do this kind of basic service.
“Change oil” is a routine maintenance task that keeps an engine lubricated and helps remove contaminants. The hosts are using it as an example of work that could be automated by robots in a future with fewer mechanics.
disposable cars
"Yeah, I don't know. I think that the cars will be so disposable that they're not going to care about mechanics, but Yeah, but even then you're still going to have Cars in the in the operating, you know, like semi trucks that's not going to change"
“Disposable cars” means cars that people are more likely to replace than fix when they have problems. If that becomes common, there’s less need for mechanics doing repairs.
“Disposable cars” is the idea that vehicles are designed and priced so that, when something breaks or wears out, owners replace the car rather than repair it. That mindset reduces demand for traditional mechanical repair work and shifts the industry toward replacement and fleet-level service.
Tesla Semi
"Whatever happened to the tesla Semi truck the hang that they were going to be doing tesla Semis I mean, I think it's just like anything else you need the infrastructure for it"
Tesla is working on an electric big rig (semi truck). Even if the truck is good, it only works if there are enough charging stations and the logistics make sense for real deliveries.
The Tesla Semi is an electric semi truck concept aimed at long-haul freight. The discussion ties it to the idea that electrifying heavy trucks requires more than just vehicles—it needs charging and operational infrastructure to keep trucks earning money.
charging infrastructure
"Semis I mean, I think it's just like anything else you need the infrastructure for it Whoa Well, I mean realistically, it's got to stay on the road. So the longer it's off the road Charging you're not making money."
Charging infrastructure means having enough charging stations where trucks need them. If charging takes too long or stations aren’t available, the truck sits idle and stops making money.
Charging infrastructure refers to the availability, capacity, and placement of charging stations needed to support electric vehicles—especially commercial fleets. For semis, the key is minimizing downtime so vehicles stay on the road and generate revenue.
Pontiac Fiero
"Yeah, there's Do you know that the fiero 1996 fiero concept car was in the future of back..."
The Pontiac Fiero is a sports car where the engine sits closer to the middle of the car, not up front. The podcast mentions a 1996 concept version, which is a design study rather than a regular production car. It’s brought up because the Fiero name is remembered for its unusual layout.
The Pontiac Fiero is a mid-engine sports car produced by Pontiac, best known for being an affordable entry into a “sports car” layout. The podcast references a “1996 Fiero concept car,” which points to how the model name and design direction were explored in later concept form. It comes up because the Fiero has a strong enthusiast following and a reputation tied to its unusual mid-engine packaging for the era.
mid-engine
"it's it's the fiero concept car. They had like a v8 mid-engine."
“Mid-engine” means the engine is placed closer to the center of the car instead of at the front. That can help the car feel more balanced and easier to handle, especially when driving hard.
A mid-engine layout places the engine near the center of the car, typically behind the front seats and ahead of the rear axle. This can improve balance and handling because the weight distribution is closer to the middle, which is why mid-engine designs are often associated with sports cars.
stainless
"I like I always like to see the the uh the sausage fingerprints on the stainless"
Stainless steel is a corrosion-resistant metal often used for trim, panels, or special finishes. In this segment, the hosts mention “sausage fingerprints on the stainless,” implying that the Cybertruck’s stainless-like surfaces show smudges and fingerprints easily.
brake dust
"Have you seen that video of the guy taking the hubcaps off and he gets brake dust on his fingers and he's like this is"
Brake dust is the fine particulate created when brake pads and rotors wear during braking. It often transfers to wheels and can be noticeable on hands or surfaces when someone removes wheel hardware, which is why the hosts reference a video where brake dust gets on fingers.
hubcaps
"Have you seen that video of the guy taking the hubcaps off and he gets brake dust on his fingers"
Hubcaps are wheel covers that protect the wheel and can improve appearance. In the segment, removing hubcaps is used as the setup for discovering brake dust on fingers, highlighting how wheel grime accumulates.
electromagnetic braking system
"What if they come up with some sort of like electric / Electromagnetic braking system later. So there's zero contact / Guarantee there's something better than brake pads out there."
Instead of stopping by squeezing brake pads against a disc, an electromagnetic system uses magnets to slow the car down. That could mean less brake wear and less dust. It’s not as common yet, but it’s something automakers are exploring.
An electromagnetic braking system slows a vehicle using magnetic forces instead of traditional friction between brake pads and rotors. The idea is to reduce wear and potentially cut down on brake dust. In practice, it’s still a developing technology and depends on the vehicle’s powertrain and hardware design.
parking lots as urban design
"Everywhere you go, there's parking lots in front of everything. What are in parking lots cars? / It's like cars / ... they cut all the parking lots out so it made it look like it's you know / A nice tight little city"
They’re talking about how many cities end up with huge areas devoted to parking cars. In a city simulation, it can look strange because so much space is just for parking. The point is that cars strongly influence how cities are designed.
The hosts discuss how car-centric cities can be dominated by parking lots, which take up large areas of space. They reference a simulation where early city layouts looked “ridiculous” because they were mostly parking, leading to a more walkable-looking representation. It’s a commentary on how vehicle infrastructure shapes what cities look like.
Kias
"Have you seen the new design language that they're putting on like these kias and hundays trying to make them look like the future"
Kia is a car brand. The hosts are talking about how Kia’s newer designs try to look futuristic, especially as more electric cars become common. It’s mostly about appearance and branding.
Kia is a major automaker known for rapidly evolving styling and tech-forward design cues. In this segment, the hosts mention Kia’s newer “future-looking” design language as part of how brands are trying to look more modern and electric. It’s a styling trend rather than a specific mechanical change.
hundays
"Have you seen the new design language that they're putting on like these kias and hundays trying to make them look like the future"
Hyundai (transcribed here as “hundays”) is another automaker pushing a more futuristic design direction across its lineup. The hosts connect this look to the broader industry shift toward electric-vehicle branding. The mention is about styling cues, not a specific model’s engineering.
Tron stuff
"Have you seen the new design language that they're putting on like these kias and hundays trying to make them look like the future / It's like some weird tron stuff. I'm starting to see them pop up"
“Tron stuff” is a reference to a futuristic, neon look from the TRON movies. The hosts mean some new car designs use bright, angular lighting and styling to look high-tech. It’s describing the vibe, not a specific car part.
“Tron stuff” is a pop-culture reference to the neon, futuristic look associated with the TRON franchise. Here it’s used to describe modern lighting and styling elements that make cars appear more “future” or techy. It’s not a technical automotive term, but it helps listeners understand the aesthetic being discussed.
lantern lights
"There's like a hundae I think with it looks like lantern lights in the corner almost like they're big / Legit remind me of a lantern"
“Lantern lights” appears to describe a specific lighting signature—corner or accent lamps that resemble lanterns. Lighting design language is increasingly used to identify brands and make cars look more distinctive. Without the exact model, it’s best understood as a visual description of the headlight/DRL shape.
projector light
"But then right next to it is like this tiny little projector light. I'm like Why are you making the turn signal?"
A projector light is a type of car headlight that uses a lens to aim the light more precisely. That usually helps the beam look cleaner and shine where it’s supposed to.
A projector light is a headlamp/lighting module that uses a lens and reflector to focus light into a defined beam pattern. It’s often used for sharper cutoff and more controlled illumination compared with older reflector-only designs.
turn signal
"...tiny little projector light. I'm like Why are you making the turn signal? or the"
A turn signal is the blinking light that tells other drivers you’re turning. They’re joking that some modern light designs make it feel like the wrong light is doing the signaling.
A turn signal is the vehicle’s indicator light used to communicate intended direction changes to other drivers. The hosts mention it in the context of modern lighting layouts that can make signals look visually confusing or overly integrated.
running lights
"Why are there running lights that are bigger than the headlights? I'm like, I'm just not I'm not with it"
Running lights are lights that turn on while you drive, usually in daytime. The hosts are saying some cars make these lights stand out so much that they look bigger than the headlights.
Running lights (often called daytime running lights, DRLs) are lights that stay on during normal driving to improve visibility. The hosts are reacting to how some modern designs make DRLs visually dominant—sometimes larger than the main headlights.
Modern "shallow" styling with complex body lines
"...it's kind of uh, it's like to really shallow everything looks like it's it's fancy but like it's just so Shitty beyond I think a lot of some of the styling in the new cars You see these like on the sides of the like let's say it's an suv and in within the two doors there's like these really harsh jagged Body lines..."
The discussion critiques modern exterior styling trends: sharper, jagged body lines and more visually “busy” surfaces. The hosts argue that these shapes can be harder to execute cleanly and may rely on thinner or less rigid panels, leading to a less durable or less satisfying look.
Ford
"[814.1s] I mean we'll go around a Ford parking lot or a Ford dealership and look at all the black trucks [819.2s] They're fucking terrible [821.3s] Like oh [822.8s] And the clear coats getting so thin now that they barely have a gloss on them [827.2s] Yeah [828.3s] Well, I think they intentionally they're intentionally starting to leave a lot more peel and stuff."
The hosts repeatedly point to Ford trucks as an example of modern paint/finish quality concerns, including thin clear coats and visible surface texture. This is a brand-level reference used to frame their real-world observations.
clear coat getting so thin
"And then when you look down the side of them, it's just a wrinkly. It's just fucking terrible [814.1s] I mean we'll go around a Ford parking lot or a Ford dealership and look at all the black trucks [819.2s] They're fucking terrible [822.8s] Like oh [822.8s] And the clear coats getting so thin now that they barely have a gloss on them"
Clear coat is the shiny protective layer on top of the paint. If it’s too thin, the car won’t look as glossy for long and small imperfections can show up more easily.
The clear coat is the transparent top layer that provides gloss and protects the color coat underneath. When it gets thinner, it can lose shine faster and show defects more easily, especially after washing, polishing, or sanding.
wet sanding the clear down
"[828.3s] Well, I think they intentionally they're intentionally starting to leave a lot more peel and stuff. I mean [834.1s] I think we see in that 15 years ago where the paint can be like the paint finish was getting worse and worse and worse [843.9s] Not me [846.0s] If you wet sanded and uh like like what sanded the clear down on a new vehicle it would look [853.1s] So bad because it would show all the imperfections. It would look terrible like terrible terrible"
Wet sanding is when you sand the paint with water to smooth it out. If you sand the shiny top layer too much, you can end up showing bumps and flaws instead of fixing them.
Wet sanding is a controlled sanding process using water to reduce heat and clogging, often used to level paint defects. Sanding a fresh clear coat too aggressively can reveal texture and imperfections because the clear layer is thin and not as forgiving.
door skins
"[859.2s] I think it's every I think it's the fords is the big one that and once you get near the door handle [863.7s] They go park don't every single one of them [866.5s] Yeah, because while they do those aluminum doors and they think that they're like the cats ass [869.9s] I mean you can't put a door skin on them. I mean some people put door skins on them [873.6s] But I don't know how how they do it without cracking them and all the experience I have with those door skins is that"
A door skin is the outer metal panel of a door, often replaced separately from the full door structure. When aluminum doors are involved, fitting and bending the flange for a skin replacement can be tricky because aluminum can crack if it’s not handled correctly.
aluminum work hardens
"[887.5s] I'm so soft [890.5s] Yeah, I don't get it whatever I think um because aluminum work hardens [895.3s] So I think when they first make it and it and aluminum [898.8s] It actually gets harder the time from extrusion or stamping or whatever that they make the aluminum to the time [906.4s] That it's it's formed it changes drastically."
Work hardening means when you bend or shape metal, it can get harder afterward. That’s why aluminum can behave differently depending on how it was formed.
Work hardening (strain hardening) means a metal becomes harder and more resistant to deformation after it’s plastically deformed. Aluminum can change its properties depending on how it’s formed, which affects how it behaves during bending and fabrication.
extrusion or stamping
"[890.5s] Yeah, I don't get it whatever I think um because aluminum work hardens [895.3s] So I think when they first make it and it and aluminum [898.8s] It actually gets harder the time from extrusion or stamping or whatever that they make the aluminum to the time [906.4s] That it's it's formed it changes drastically."
Extrusion and stamping are ways factories shape metal. The process can change the metal’s properties, so the same aluminum sheet or tube can behave differently depending on how it was made.
Extrusion and stamping are manufacturing processes that shape metal into parts. The way aluminum is produced (and how long it sits between forming steps) can influence its final strength and how it responds to bending or repair.
aluminum tubing
"[898.8s] It actually gets harder the time from extrusion or stamping or whatever that they make the aluminum to the time [906.4s] That it's it's formed it changes drastically. So like in my work. We do things with aluminum [912.0s] I hate that they call it pipe. It's aluminum tubing whatever"
Aluminum tubing is aluminum pipe used for parts or systems. The speaker is basically saying the correct word matters because tubing and pipe can refer to different kinds of material.
Aluminum tubing refers to formed aluminum pipe used for structural or fluid-carrying applications. The speaker is correcting terminology (“pipe” vs “tubing”), which matters because different products/specs can have different wall thicknesses and forming characteristics.
Aluminum ages
"It's quite a bit stiffer so because it it not only work hardens it [937.1s] Aluminum actually ages and like the older it gets from the time it was extruded [942.2s] It gets stiffer."
Some aluminum alloys change over time after they’re made. After sitting for a while, it can feel stiffer and be harder to bend into the same shape.
Aluminum aging refers to time-dependent changes in the alloy’s microstructure after it’s been extruded or processed. Those changes can increase stiffness and strength, which is why older stock may bend differently than fresh material.
extruded
"Aluminum actually ages and like the older it gets from the time it was extruded [942.2s] It gets stiffer. So when they make it a new aluminum panel..."
Extrusion is how manufacturers make long metal shapes by pushing heated metal through a mold. The way it’s made can affect how the metal behaves later.
Extrusion is a manufacturing process where heated metal is pushed through a die to create a specific cross-sectional shape (like a pipe or profile). The segment ties extrusion to later aging behavior and how that affects bending.
stamping out the shape
"So when they make it a new aluminum panel at the Ford factory, you know [947.7s] They're stamping out the shape and they're probably going right to the next line..."
Stamping is when a machine presses sheet metal into a mold to make the exact shape. It’s one of the main ways car body panels are formed.
Stamping is a metal-forming process where presses force sheet metal into a die to create a specific shape. Here, they’re describing how a fresh aluminum panel is formed at the factory before it’s folded and joined.
crimp they fold the pinch weld
"...they're probably going right to the next line where they crimp they fold the [952.6s] Pinch weld over not pinch weld [954.7s] But when they where they fold it over the other panel..."
A pinch weld is a seam where two metal parts are joined by folding/crimping them together, often used in body construction. The segment suggests that fresh material folds more easily, while older aluminum may not form the seam as cleanly.
u bend
"Like a u bend in an aluminum [979.1s] And this stuff's about eighth inch wall a little over eighth inch wall when we bend that [984.1s] On a new one, it'll bend a really nice round bend"
A U-bend is just bending metal into a U shape. They’re using it as an example of how fresh metal bends cleanly, but older metal can start to collapse or lose the nice curve.
A U-bend is a simple forming shape where material is bent into a U profile. The hosts use it to illustrate how newly made aluminum bends smoothly into a round radius, while older stock tends to deform differently.
collapse... oval shaped
"But after a few months of sitting on the shelf when they go to bend they'll want to they want a sandwich [991.8s] ...It starts to collapse not it doesn't get like kinky like [999.9s] Exhaust but it starts to fold and get like oval shaped [1003.0s] for..."
If the metal isn’t as flexible anymore, bending can make it buckle. Instead of staying round, it can flatten or turn oval.
When thin-walled aluminum is bent after aging, it can lose its ability to maintain the intended cross-section and may collapse or deform into an oval shape. This is a practical forming/manufacturing issue that affects fit and structural consistency.
build process (big stuff vs little stuff)
"...it's always fun when you're putting the big stuff together ... you get a driveshaft in you're like man ... and then all the little stuff just slowly makes everything more terrible"
The speaker contrasts early “big wins” in a build (engine, transmission, driveshaft, exhaust) with later “little stuff” that becomes frustrating. This is a common hot-rod/custom build reality: wiring, brackets, clearances, heat shielding, and fitment issues often take longer than the headline components.
h-pipe
"...the little h-pipe deal that you have that that goes in between the manifold and the H the HVAC system or whatever ... They have an h-pipe so the one head doesn't get hotter than the other and throw a code or whatever"
An “H-pipe” is an exhaust crossover component that connects the exhaust paths from different cylinder banks (commonly on V8s). The goal is to help balance exhaust flow and sound, and it can also affect how exhaust temperatures and emissions-related sensors behave.
HVAC system
"...the little h-pipe deal that you have that that goes in between the manifold and the H the HVAC system or whatever ..."
HVAC is the system that controls heat and A/C inside the car. When you’re installing parts in the engine bay, HVAC stuff can take up space and affect where other components can go.
HVAC stands for heating, ventilation, and air conditioning. In a car build, HVAC components and ducting can constrain where exhaust-related parts can be routed, because space near the firewall and engine bay is limited.
manifold
"...the little h-pipe deal that you have that that goes in between the manifold and the H the HVAC system or whatever ..."
A manifold is a part that collects gases from multiple cylinders and routes them into the exhaust system. In this context, the speaker is describing how an H-pipe sits between the manifold area and other components, which matters for heat management and sensor behavior.
Controller
"and I need to put a Controller in between there... So I didn't have enough room... So I kind of had a bail on that idea"
A controller is a small computer/module that helps run the system. They’re saying there wasn’t enough space to mount it where they first planned, so they moved it to a better spot.
A controller in this context is an electronic module that manages part of the system they’re installing (likely tied to the HVAC/refrigeration components). The key point is packaging: they don’t have enough room for it in the original location, so they relocate the setup.
apron
"move it up to in front of the apron where it goes Through the where the cooler lines actually go through the apron"
The apron is a part of the car’s body near the front/engine area. It’s where you might route hoses or mount parts, and it can be tight to work around.
The apron is a body panel area (often near the engine bay) used as a reference point for where components and lines can be routed or mounted. Custom installs frequently require careful line routing through/around the apron to maintain clearance and avoid interference.
cooler lines
"move it up to in front of the apron where it goes Through the where the cooler lines actually go through the apron"
Cooler lines are the hoses/tubes that carry the cooled fluid or refrigerant. They’re talking about routing them through a specific body area so everything fits.
“Cooler lines” refers to the tubing/hoses that move cooled fluid or refrigerant through the vehicle. The speaker is describing how they routed the system so the lines pass through the apron area, which is a common packaging challenge in custom work.
dryer
"...have room for the controller actually have room for the Compressor the dryer for the compressor in that corner over there"
The dryer is a filter-like part in the A/C system that helps keep moisture out of the refrigerant. It’s important for reliability, and it also takes up space when you’re fitting everything into tight areas.
The dryer (often called an A/C receiver-drier) removes moisture and contaminants from the refrigerant system. In custom installs, it’s typically mounted near the compressor/lines so the refrigerant path and packaging work correctly.
inner fender
"And I'll be kind of hidden underneath the inner apron or inner fender or whatever about it's just"
The inner fender is the inner panel behind the wheel. They’re saying they’ll tuck the parts up under it so the install looks cleaner and is less exposed.
The inner fender is the structural/inner panel behind the wheel area. They’re planning to hide components underneath it, which is a common approach to keep custom plumbing tidy and protected from damage.
custom kit fitment problems
"It's like you you get the kit you think you need you get it here Realize that A third of the fittings won't work... So now you have to figure out what those fittings are on each end"
Even when you buy a kit, it might not fit your exact car or layout. Then you have to figure out which parts/fittings actually work and make adjustments instead of just bolting everything on.
They’re describing a common reality of custom automotive installs: even if you buy a “kit,” it may not fit perfectly because fittings, line lengths, and mounting points vary by car and setup. The result is extra work identifying which fittings work on each end and adapting the installation rather than following the kit blindly.
headlight trim rings
"But we got headlight trim rings for that Nash that 38 Nash there's only one company that makes a retro fit"
A headlight trim ring is the ring around the headlight that makes it fit and look right. If you change the headlight or bulb, you may need the right ring so it mounts properly.
Headlight trim rings are the decorative bezel pieces that frame a headlight in a specific vehicle. They’re often needed when swapping to a different headlight type or bulb style so the light sits correctly and looks factory-correct.
retrofit kit
"Nash that 38 Nash there's only one company that makes a retro fit from Basically, you just have to measure the the width of the headlight you have and see if this kit will retrofit it to a seven inch sealed beam bulb, you know"
A retrofit kit is an aftermarket set of parts designed to adapt an existing car to accept a different component than what it originally used. In this case, the kit is meant to convert the headlight setup to work with a specific bulb type.
seven inch sealed beam bulb
"Basically, you just have to measure the the width of the headlight you have and see if this kit will retrofit it to a seven inch sealed beam bulb, you know"
A seven-inch sealed beam bulb refers to a standardized older-style headlight unit where the bulb and reflector are sealed together in a specific diameter. Many classic-car headlight conversions revolve around matching the correct sealed-beam size so the housing and trim ring fit properly.
body filler
"And the kit they're like if the if the headlight is just a little bit larger than the trim ring [1336.3s] Then you put the trim ring on and you just body filler around it to meet and meet out."
Body filler is a putty used to fill small gaps and smooth uneven surfaces before painting. It’s common in custom or repair work, but it has to be applied and sanded carefully so it doesn’t crack later.
Body filler (commonly fiberglass or polyester filler) is used to smooth gaps and reshape panels before sanding and paint. In this context, it’s being used to blend a trim ring to a slightly mismatched headlight opening.
originality
"There's kind of worry about originality [1359.5s] like the whole time he's like [1361.3s] He's thought that even if we move the gas door because a gas gas cap came through the quarter panel is really gaudy"
In car restoration and customization, “originality” refers to keeping parts, locations, and appearance as they were from the factory. The discussion suggests a tension between making the car look right for use/fitment versus preserving factory-correct details.
gas door
"He's thought that even if we move the gas door because a gas gas cap came through the quarter panel is really gaudy [1368.2s] All's there to do is like turn it and then it's in the trunk."
That’s the little door on the outside of the car that hides where you put the gas. If you move it, you usually have to cut and patch the body so it lines up and seals correctly.
A gas door is the exterior panel that covers the fuel filler opening. Moving it changes the bodywork and can affect how the car looks and how the fuel system is routed and sealed.
collector plates
"Well, can I put collector plates on it if I have if the gas cap's not in the stock? [1379.3s] I don't know you got a small block Chevy in it. What do you think?"
This sounds like they’re talking about license plate/registration rules—basically whether the car’s setup will be allowed. The exact term is unclear in the audio, but the point is compliance.
“Collector plates” here sounds like a reference to license plates/plate placement or possibly decorative plate covers, but the transcript context is about fuel filler location and legality. Because the term is ambiguous, it’s best treated as a general “plate/registration” compliance question rather than a specific automotive part.
small block Chevy
"[1379.3s] I don't know you got a small block Chevy in it. What do you think? [1384.1s] I don't think the dmv knows where your gas filler is supposed to be"
A “small block Chevy” is a popular Chevrolet V8 engine that a lot of people swap into other cars. The host is basically saying the engine swap doesn’t automatically mean the car’s fuel filler/body details will be accepted.
“Small block Chevy” is a family of compact V8 engines from Chevrolet, commonly swapped into older cars. The mention ties engine swaps to how the car is registered/inspected and what details the DMV expects to match.
DMV
"[1384.1s] I don't think the dmv knows where your gas filler is supposed to be"
DMV refers to the Department of Motor Vehicles, which handles registration and inspection rules. The discussion implies that non-stock modifications (like moving the fuel filler) may not be something the DMV checks closely, but rules vary by location.
registration every year
"Yeah, but he doesn't want to pay registration every year. Do you understand? Yeah, neither do I who does right?"
They mean the yearly paperwork and fees you have to pay so the car is legal to drive. Some people try to avoid it if they’re not driving much.
“Registration every year” refers to the recurring state process and fees required to legally operate a vehicle on public roads. For hobbyists and older cars, the cost and paperwork can be a major part of ownership.
hobbyist plate
"Oh, yeah, he could just get a hobbyist plate And it does the same thing a lot of people don't like them because they're green."
Some states let you register certain cars as “hobby” vehicles. That can mean less hassle (and sometimes lower cost) than normal registration, especially for cars you don’t drive every day.
A “hobbyist plate” is a special license plate category some states offer for vehicles that are owned as projects or for limited use. It’s typically meant to reduce the burden of standard annual registration while still keeping the car legal.
Rhoda America
"Like if you wanted a black plate in Wisconsin, you got a rhoda america plate But now they actually have like"
They mention a specific program or plate option name that lets you get a black plate in Wisconsin. The exact details aren’t explained here, but it’s part of the conversation about plate styles.
“Rhoda America” is mentioned as a plate option in Wisconsin for getting a black plate. It sounds like a specific plate design/issuer or program name, but the exact entity isn’t fully clear from the segment.
yellow retro
"But now they actually have like Uh, they call it yellow retro. It's kind of like the 70s yellow and then they have a black one too"
They mention a Wisconsin plate option called “yellow retro,” which is designed to look like older plates from the 1970s. They’re basically talking about how different plate colors look and why people have opinions about them.
“Yellow retro” appears to be a Wisconsin license plate style meant to evoke a 1970s look. The hosts are comparing plate colors/styles and how people react to them.
custom plate
"Did you so like as a high schooler? I always was like, I'm gonna get a custom plate for this car and building, you know what I mean?"
A custom plate is a license plate with your chosen letters/numbers. The hosts are saying it can cost money and take time to get approved.
A custom plate is a personalized license plate where you choose specific characters/wording, often for an extra fee. The discussion highlights how custom plates can become another cost and time sink during a car project.
forms of multiple different variations
"I know because there was a pain in the ass too and you had to wait like months and months and yeah Fill out forms of multiple different variations that you accept and the border you prefer them in"
They’re talking about the application steps where you list several acceptable plate options. If your first pick isn’t allowed, they try the next one.
This describes the application process for custom plates, where you may submit multiple acceptable character combinations and preferences. If your first choice isn’t available, the state can use the next acceptable option.
Toyota Tundra
"Yeah, I um Want to re-register the tundra [1495.7s] Now that it's Not just the $2,000 beat up Toyota."
A Toyota Tundra is a big pickup truck. They’re talking about paperwork/registration for their Tundra and how much it’s worth now compared to when it was in rough shape.
The Toyota Tundra is a full-size pickup truck. In this segment, it’s being discussed in the context of re-registering the truck and how its value has changed from a cheap, beat-up vehicle to a more expensive one.
re-register
"Yeah, I um Want to re-register the tundra [1495.7s] Now that it's Not just the $2,000 beat up Toyota."
Re-registering means updating the vehicle’s registration with the state—often after ownership changes, moving between states, or correcting registration details. It can affect fees and how the vehicle is categorized/valued.
Road America plates
"So they already sent plates for it, but it's it was like 15 bucks to get [1568.1s] Road America plates [1569.9s] Nice that's the custom plate."
“Road America plates” refers to specialty license plates tied to Road America, a well-known motorsports venue in Wisconsin. The segment treats it as an optional add-on when registering a vehicle.
vehicle title
"...it'll allow somebody else to pick up a title for you ... if I lost the title on a car I'd bought ... I'd be like, all right, you give me ... I'll go pick up the title the new title"
The vehicle title is the official paper that shows who owns the car. If it’s lost or needs to be transferred, you have to file paperwork so the state can issue the correct title.
A vehicle title is the legal document proving ownership of a car. When a title is lost or needs to be transferred, states often require forms and sometimes allow an authorized person to pick up the replacement or new title on someone else’s behalf.
pick up the new title
"...I would fill out the form so they could have me go pick up the new title for them ... I'll go pick up the title the new title and then what I'll bring it to you"
“Pick up the new title” means the DMV/state issued an updated or replacement ownership paper. You can often have someone else do it, but you need the right paperwork so they’re allowed to.
Picking up a “new title” usually means the state has issued a replacement or updated title after a transfer, correction, or lost-title situation. The key detail here is authorization—someone else can do it for you if the forms are completed correctly.
working on paint
"Man, I gotta get this high going so I can get working on paint ... I'm working with a paint company now. So like my vision of what"
They’re talking about doing custom paint work on a car. Custom paint isn’t just color—it usually involves careful prep and applying layers so it looks right.
“Working on paint” in a custom context usually implies planning the finish process—prep, masking, and applying coatings—rather than just a quick respray. The episode’s title suggests they’re discussing whether true custom paint work can return, which often depends on materials, labor availability, and shop practices.
chameleon paint
"So I was buying I was designing my paints around like because I wanted to do a chameleon because it'd just be silly... they're sending me enough chameleon to do the whole car"
Chameleon paint is paint that looks like it changes color when you move around or when the light hits it differently. It’s usually pricier and takes more skill to apply cleanly than normal paint.
Chameleon paint is a specialty automotive coating that changes color depending on viewing angle and lighting. It’s often achieved with multi-layer pigments and clearcoat, which is why it can be more expensive and harder to match than standard single-color paint.
mini truck scene
"And so I've completely changed I'm gonna go more, you know leaning towards mini truck scene"
The “mini truck scene” refers to a style subculture focused on compact trucks and a show-focused look—often including custom paint, graphics, and airbrushed details. In paint discussions, it usually signals a more graphic-heavy, visual-impact aesthetic rather than a subtle OEM-style finish.
airbrush
"There was a few Very few civics back in the day that had like a full show car airbrush that were like really cool"
Airbrushing is a way to paint detailed designs using a tool that sprays paint very finely. It’s commonly used for custom graphics and smooth color fades on show cars.
Airbrushing is a fine-detail painting technique that uses compressed air to atomize paint for smooth gradients and intricate graphics. In custom paint builds, airbrush work is often used for show-car graphics, fades, and layered artwork that’s difficult to replicate with spray guns alone.
tribal-ish pinstriping
"Are you gonna do like the pinstriping or like the like the tribal-ish pinstriping where like You ever see that instead of running a straight line down your down your like flame They're like whip it out and like make it look like really crazy and shit"
Tribal pinstriping is decorative artwork—usually sharp, flowing shapes—added along the side of a car. It can be painted by hand or sprayed in layers so it looks like part of the paint job.
Tribal-style pinstriping uses flowing, angular shapes to create a graphic that looks like it’s “woven” into the body lines. It’s typically done by hand or with masking/airbrushing, and it can be layered under clear to create a custom, integrated look.
flat sanding
"Like you know what I mean it build you see yeah, I do clear do you see it through the clear? So then you end up flat sanding it It really depends on the look yeah, I mean if you want it flat in the end"
Flat sanding is when you sand the surface until it’s smooth and level. Paint layers can leave edges or bumps, and sanding helps them disappear before the final clear and polish.
Flat sanding is sanding a surface to level it so it’s smooth and even, usually after paint or graphic layers create texture or edges. In custom paint, it’s used to avoid ridges that would show through the clear or to prep for polishing.
dropped shadowed
"It's gonna be dropped shadowed down under the chameleon. So you have like a some depth there"
A dropped shadow is like the shadow you see behind a sticker or lettering, but painted. It makes the graphic look like it sits on top of the paint instead of being flat.
A dropped shadow is a graphic effect where an offset darker/lighter layer is added behind text or shapes to make them look raised. In custom paint, it’s often created with careful layering so the shadow reads correctly over metallic/chameleon base colors.
custom paint graphics
"I think there's gonna be a couple different graphics in the white ... asymmetrical one ... engine's gonna come through the hood ... we're gonna let the paint do the talking not the body kit"
They’re designing custom paint graphics to be the main feature of the car. Instead of relying on big body changes, they want the paint to stand out and make the whole build look intentional.
This segment is about using custom paint and graphics as the main styling statement—specifically asymmetrical hood graphics that visually interact with engine bay elements like the valve cover. It’s a “paint-first” approach where the body remains mostly stock and the artwork does the branding.
valve cover
"... the engine's gonna come through the hood ... capture the valve cover ... flow through the white valve cover"
The valve cover is a cover on top of the engine that protects important parts inside. The speaker is planning graphics so the paint flows visually onto that area.
The valve cover is the housing over the engine’s valve train components. In custom paint/graphics, people sometimes design visuals to “match” or highlight the valve cover area for a cohesive engine bay look.
Honda Civic
"Is honda are you doing to do like, uh Body kit or anything like that? ... I don't know the stock body on the civic Has a look ..."
They’re customizing a Honda Civic. Instead of changing the whole body with a big kit, they want to keep the factory look and use paint/graphics plus a few small add-ons to stand out.
The speaker is talking about styling a Honda Civic, specifically keeping the stock body shape while adding small aero pieces. They’re aiming for a clean look where the paint and graphics are the main visual focus rather than a full body kit.
duck tail spoiler
"... and then a little duck tail spoiler. ... And then I'm gonna do a little duck carbon fiber duck tail spoiler"
A ducktail spoiler is a small spoiler that sits on the trunk and curves upward. It can make the car look more sporty and may help stability at speed.
A ducktail spoiler is a compact, upward-curving rear spoiler shape often associated with classic sports-car styling. It can add downforce and changes the rear profile, even when kept subtle.
front lip
"I don't think so. I'm just gonna do a front lip and then a little duck tail spoiler."
A front lip is a small add-on on the front bumper that sticks out a bit lower. It’s mostly for style, and it can also help the car’s airflow look cleaner.
A front lip is a small aerodynamic extension at the bottom edge of the front bumper. It can improve airflow and add a more aggressive look without the coverage of a full body kit.
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