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Will TRUE CUSTOM PAINT Ever Come Back? | F_cking Cars Podcast Ep 24

Will TRUE CUSTOM PAINT Ever Come Back? | F_cking Cars Podcast Ep 24

F_cking Cars Apr 24, 2026 54 min
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About this episode

A deep dive into the messy reality of modern swaps and custom builds: one host wrestles with a Coyote Mustang project where every “kit” assumption breaks down—tight AC compressor clearance, remote-mounting parts, adding an oil cooler for a ProCharger, and endless fitting/line headaches. The other tackles a Honda case swap that cranks but won’t fire, debating immobilizer vs ignition/fuel pulse while using wiring diagrams and even ChatGPT as a sounding board. The conversation then drifts into paint dreams (chameleon + tribal/airbrush graphics), DMV/custom plate hassles, and broader takes on EV braking, future car design, and whether iconic models (like the MR2) are coming back.

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Car

Mustang

"Lately I've been just scratching my brain plumbing this coyote in this Mustang. It's Pretty overwhelming"

They’re talking about a Ford Mustang project where the engine has been changed. Because the new engine doesn’t fit the same way as the original, they have to use special parts and adapters to make everything work.

Term

coyote swap

"Oh, yeah, I mean every kit you buy that's for a coyote swap is like Yeah, it works with a coyote in a pickup truck with a lot of room, you know"

A “coyote swap” is when someone puts a Ford Coyote V8 into a car that didn’t originally have it. Even if there are kits, you still often run into fitment problems with things like brackets, hoses, and clearance.

Concept

limitations of this motor

"It's just the limitations of this motor. I mean, it's it's not like a You know Because it's close to the art Morrison chassis."

They’re saying the engine itself makes the project harder because of where its parts are located. When you swap engines, those locations can interfere with the car’s frame or other components.

Company

Art Morrison chassis

"Because it's close to the art Morrison chassis. It's an art Morrison problem or it's a coyote problem"

Art Morrison makes custom car chassis. In this project, the chassis shape affects how much space there is for the engine and A/C parts, which is why they’re struggling with clearances.

Part

ac compressor

"...like the ac compressor It's so close to the frame that the vintage ac Adapters they don't that screw onto the compressor. There's not enough room for them"

The A/C compressor is the part that makes your air conditioning work. They’re having trouble because the compressor sits too close to the frame, so the usual adapter pieces don’t have enough room.

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vintage AC adapters

"...the vintage ac Adapters they don't that screw onto the compressor. There's not enough room for them"

These are special adapter brackets meant to connect an older A/C setup to a compressor. In their case, the adapters don’t line up because there isn’t enough physical space.

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remote mount

"So now I have to remote mount the Uh, basically the charging system the charging ports for the ac"

Remote mounting means putting a part somewhere else instead of where it normally goes. They’re doing it to get the A/C connections to fit when there’s not enough room in the original spot.

Part

oil cooler

"And then the oil cooler and all that shit was like I didn't realize that we needed needed an oil cooler because it The aftermarket says you don't nearly need one."

An oil cooler is an extra radiator-like part that helps keep engine oil from getting too hot. They’re saying they didn’t think they’d need one, but the project led them to consider it anyway.

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pro-charge

"But then we decided to pro-charge it and now it's like, okay, we should probably be putting a cooler on it too."

“Pro-charge” means they’re adding a forced-induction setup—basically a supercharger—to make the engine breathe harder. More boost usually means you need extra cooling so things don’t overheat.

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remote oil filter

"Luckily, I didn't have any the remote oil filter already mounted or anything like that because it would have been in the way of Lines to the cooler..."

A remote oil filter relocates the oil filter away from the engine to improve packaging and sometimes cooling/flow. It requires additional lines and fittings, which can complicate routing—especially when adding other components like coolers.

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lines to the cooler

"...it would have been in the way of Lines to the cooler and then I had to make them out for the cooler too..."

They’re talking about the hoses/pipes that carry fluid to and from the cooler. If the lines are routed poorly, they can get in the way or cause leaks.

Concept

immobilizer

"...I don't know if it's a wiring issue or if it's the immobilizer for the key... I took the immobilizer and the key out of the donor car..."

An immobilizer is the car’s anti-theft “permission slip.” If it doesn’t recognize the key, the car may crank but won’t start because it blocks fuel and/or spark.

Concept

donor car

"I took the immobilizer and the key out of the donor car..."

A donor car is basically a second car they take parts from. It can help with swaps, but you still have to wire and match the parts correctly.

Term

wiring diagrams and pin charts

"I was Looking over wiring diagrams and pin charts and stuff all last night trying to figure it out"

These are reference documents that show which wire goes to which plug pin. If even one connection is wrong, the car can fail to start.

Term

e25 pin

"...what you need to do is you need to make sure you have a hot power going into this e25 pin and I'm like"

They’re talking about a specific electrical connector pin. If that pin doesn’t get the right power, the car’s systems may not work even if everything else is connected.

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NEP

"[201.1s] Okay, that's designated as NEP. What does NEP stand for? It's like, oh, that's a constant positive [206.7s] I'm like, okay. I just cross-checked you to google and on all sorts of websites says that that's the injector for the ignition pulse"

NEP is a label for a specific wire/pin used in diagnostics. In this conversation, it seems connected to signals the engine uses to start and run, but the exact meaning isn’t fully spelled out.

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injectors

"[206.7s] I'm like, okay. I just cross-checked you to google and on all sorts of websites says that that's the injector for the ignition pulse [288.4s] But it said because you would have had fuel and I said no no no just because I have fuel pressure [293.0s] Doesn't mean the injectors are pulsing and opening up into the chain"

Injectors are the fuel-spraying valves controlled by the ECU. For an engine to start, injectors must not only have fuel pressure available, but also receive electrical pulses to open and spray fuel into the cylinders.

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tachometer

"[215.2s] Pin which is for like a tachometer [218.7s] Sure [219.1s] I'm like, why are you trying to tell me for power there and it like argued with me"

A tachometer shows how fast the engine is spinning. If a diagnostic pin is tied to tach signals, it can help confirm whether the engine is actually producing ignition activity.

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ECU

"We it says I don't think it's your mobilizer because because I I uh [240.6s] The ecu just grounds the fuel pump relay to turn the fuel pump on and so I grounded that pin and the fuel pump kicks on"

The ECU is the engine’s computer. It sends signals to parts like the fuel pump and ignition system so the engine can start and run correctly.

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fuel pump relay

"[240.6s] The ecu just grounds the fuel pump relay to turn the fuel pump on and so I grounded that pin and the fuel pump kicks on [247.4s] I'm like, okay"

The fuel pump relay is like a remote-controlled switch for the fuel pump. When the engine computer tells it to turn on, the fuel pump gets power and starts pumping gas.

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ignition problem

"[278.2s] And it goes. Oh, no, it shouldn't be your mobilizer because if you tricked it and it didn't fire [283.4s] then it [285.3s] It's it's another problem. It's ignition problem [287.2s] And I'm like, wait a minute"

An ignition problem means the engine isn’t getting spark at the right time. So even if fuel is present, the engine can’t actually light off.

Term

fuel injector pulse

"It cuts fuel injector pulse and in ignition. So you have no spark and no fuel injectors pulsing"

Fuel injectors don’t spray continuously—they get quick “on” signals. If those signals stop, the engine won’t get the fuel it needs to start.

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spark

"I haven't actually pulled a plug yet and checked spark because I just hate but trying to check spark on coil-on plugs"

Spark is what lights the fuel-air mixture in the engine. If there’s no spark, the engine can crank but still won’t start.

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coil-on plugs

"because I just hate but trying to check spark on coil-on plugs because you're like"

Instead of one coil for all cylinders, coil-on-plugs puts a small coil right on each spark plug. If one coil fails, that cylinder can misfire or not spark at all.

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fuel pressure

"Just because I have fuel pressure doesn't mean I have injectors pulsing fuel into the cylinders"

Fuel pressure is how strongly fuel is pushed to the engine. But if the injectors aren’t commanded to spray, the engine still won’t start even with good pressure.

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mechanics shortage

"I gotta tell you there's the shortage of mechanics, so it'd probably be okay Yeah, I mean for real I There's going to be a time where people like well, they're not coming from my job."

A mechanics shortage means there aren’t enough car repair workers. The hosts suggest robots might help with some tasks, but trucks still need proper maintenance.

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change oil

"Like they can change oil. They'll be able to do that easy right Yeah, I don't know. I think that the cars will be so disposable that they're not going to care about mechanics, but"

Changing oil is regular maintenance where you drain old engine oil and put in fresh oil. It helps the engine run smoothly, and the hosts are joking that robots could do this kind of basic service.

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disposable cars

"Yeah, I don't know. I think that the cars will be so disposable that they're not going to care about mechanics, but Yeah, but even then you're still going to have Cars in the in the operating, you know, like semi trucks that's not going to change"

“Disposable cars” means cars that people are more likely to replace than fix when they have problems. If that becomes common, there’s less need for mechanics doing repairs.

Car

Tesla Semi

"Whatever happened to the tesla Semi truck the hang that they were going to be doing tesla Semis I mean, I think it's just like anything else you need the infrastructure for it"

Tesla is working on an electric big rig (semi truck). Even if the truck is good, it only works if there are enough charging stations and the logistics make sense for real deliveries.

Concept

charging infrastructure

"Semis I mean, I think it's just like anything else you need the infrastructure for it Whoa Well, I mean realistically, it's got to stay on the road. So the longer it's off the road Charging you're not making money."

Charging infrastructure means having enough charging stations where trucks need them. If charging takes too long or stations aren’t available, the truck sits idle and stops making money.

Car

Pontiac Fiero

"Yeah, there's Do you know that the fiero 1996 fiero concept car was in the future of back..."

The Pontiac Fiero is a sports car where the engine sits closer to the middle of the car, not up front. The podcast mentions a 1996 concept version, which is a design study rather than a regular production car. It’s brought up because the Fiero name is remembered for its unusual layout.

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mid-engine

"it's it's the fiero concept car. They had like a v8 mid-engine."

“Mid-engine” means the engine is placed closer to the center of the car instead of at the front. That can help the car feel more balanced and easier to handle, especially when driving hard.

Term

stainless

"I like I always like to see the the uh the sausage fingerprints on the stainless"

Stainless steel is a corrosion-resistant metal often used for trim, panels, or special finishes. In this segment, the hosts mention “sausage fingerprints on the stainless,” implying that the Cybertruck’s stainless-like surfaces show smudges and fingerprints easily.

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brake dust

"Have you seen that video of the guy taking the hubcaps off and he gets brake dust on his fingers and he's like this is"

Brake dust is the fine particulate created when brake pads and rotors wear during braking. It often transfers to wheels and can be noticeable on hands or surfaces when someone removes wheel hardware, which is why the hosts reference a video where brake dust gets on fingers.

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hubcaps

"Have you seen that video of the guy taking the hubcaps off and he gets brake dust on his fingers"

Hubcaps are wheel covers that protect the wheel and can improve appearance. In the segment, removing hubcaps is used as the setup for discovering brake dust on fingers, highlighting how wheel grime accumulates.

Term

electromagnetic braking system

"What if they come up with some sort of like electric / Electromagnetic braking system later. So there's zero contact / Guarantee there's something better than brake pads out there."

Instead of stopping by squeezing brake pads against a disc, an electromagnetic system uses magnets to slow the car down. That could mean less brake wear and less dust. It’s not as common yet, but it’s something automakers are exploring.

Concept

parking lots as urban design

"Everywhere you go, there's parking lots in front of everything. What are in parking lots cars? / It's like cars / ... they cut all the parking lots out so it made it look like it's you know / A nice tight little city"

They’re talking about how many cities end up with huge areas devoted to parking cars. In a city simulation, it can look strange because so much space is just for parking. The point is that cars strongly influence how cities are designed.

Brand

Kias

"Have you seen the new design language that they're putting on like these kias and hundays trying to make them look like the future"

Kia is a car brand. The hosts are talking about how Kia’s newer designs try to look futuristic, especially as more electric cars become common. It’s mostly about appearance and branding.

Term

Tron stuff

"Have you seen the new design language that they're putting on like these kias and hundays trying to make them look like the future / It's like some weird tron stuff. I'm starting to see them pop up"

“Tron stuff” is a reference to a futuristic, neon look from the TRON movies. The hosts mean some new car designs use bright, angular lighting and styling to look high-tech. It’s describing the vibe, not a specific car part.

Brand

hundays

"Have you seen the new design language that they're putting on like these kias and hundays trying to make them look like the future"

Hyundai (transcribed here as “hundays”) is another automaker pushing a more futuristic design direction across its lineup. The hosts connect this look to the broader industry shift toward electric-vehicle branding. The mention is about styling cues, not a specific model’s engineering.

Term

lantern lights

"There's like a hundae I think with it looks like lantern lights in the corner almost like they're big / Legit remind me of a lantern"

“Lantern lights” appears to describe a specific lighting signature—corner or accent lamps that resemble lanterns. Lighting design language is increasingly used to identify brands and make cars look more distinctive. Without the exact model, it’s best understood as a visual description of the headlight/DRL shape.

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projector light

"But then right next to it is like this tiny little projector light. I'm like Why are you making the turn signal?"

A projector light is a type of car headlight that uses a lens to aim the light more precisely. That usually helps the beam look cleaner and shine where it’s supposed to.

Term

turn signal

"...tiny little projector light. I'm like Why are you making the turn signal? or the"

A turn signal is the blinking light that tells other drivers you’re turning. They’re joking that some modern light designs make it feel like the wrong light is doing the signaling.

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running lights

"Why are there running lights that are bigger than the headlights? I'm like, I'm just not I'm not with it"

Running lights are lights that turn on while you drive, usually in daytime. The hosts are saying some cars make these lights stand out so much that they look bigger than the headlights.

Concept

Modern "shallow" styling with complex body lines

"...it's kind of uh, it's like to really shallow everything looks like it's it's fancy but like it's just so Shitty beyond I think a lot of some of the styling in the new cars You see these like on the sides of the like let's say it's an suv and in within the two doors there's like these really harsh jagged Body lines..."

The discussion critiques modern exterior styling trends: sharper, jagged body lines and more visually “busy” surfaces. The hosts argue that these shapes can be harder to execute cleanly and may rely on thinner or less rigid panels, leading to a less durable or less satisfying look.

Brand

Ford

"[814.1s] I mean we'll go around a Ford parking lot or a Ford dealership and look at all the black trucks [819.2s] They're fucking terrible [821.3s] Like oh [822.8s] And the clear coats getting so thin now that they barely have a gloss on them [827.2s] Yeah [828.3s] Well, I think they intentionally they're intentionally starting to leave a lot more peel and stuff."

The hosts repeatedly point to Ford trucks as an example of modern paint/finish quality concerns, including thin clear coats and visible surface texture. This is a brand-level reference used to frame their real-world observations.

Concept

clear coat getting so thin

"And then when you look down the side of them, it's just a wrinkly. It's just fucking terrible [814.1s] I mean we'll go around a Ford parking lot or a Ford dealership and look at all the black trucks [819.2s] They're fucking terrible [822.8s] Like oh [822.8s] And the clear coats getting so thin now that they barely have a gloss on them"

Clear coat is the shiny protective layer on top of the paint. If it’s too thin, the car won’t look as glossy for long and small imperfections can show up more easily.

Concept

wet sanding the clear down

"[828.3s] Well, I think they intentionally they're intentionally starting to leave a lot more peel and stuff. I mean [834.1s] I think we see in that 15 years ago where the paint can be like the paint finish was getting worse and worse and worse [843.9s] Not me [846.0s] If you wet sanded and uh like like what sanded the clear down on a new vehicle it would look [853.1s] So bad because it would show all the imperfections. It would look terrible like terrible terrible"

Wet sanding is when you sand the paint with water to smooth it out. If you sand the shiny top layer too much, you can end up showing bumps and flaws instead of fixing them.

Term

door skins

"[859.2s] I think it's every I think it's the fords is the big one that and once you get near the door handle [863.7s] They go park don't every single one of them [866.5s] Yeah, because while they do those aluminum doors and they think that they're like the cats ass [869.9s] I mean you can't put a door skin on them. I mean some people put door skins on them [873.6s] But I don't know how how they do it without cracking them and all the experience I have with those door skins is that"

A door skin is the outer metal panel of a door, often replaced separately from the full door structure. When aluminum doors are involved, fitting and bending the flange for a skin replacement can be tricky because aluminum can crack if it’s not handled correctly.

Concept

aluminum work hardens

"[887.5s] I'm so soft [890.5s] Yeah, I don't get it whatever I think um because aluminum work hardens [895.3s] So I think when they first make it and it and aluminum [898.8s] It actually gets harder the time from extrusion or stamping or whatever that they make the aluminum to the time [906.4s] That it's it's formed it changes drastically."

Work hardening means when you bend or shape metal, it can get harder afterward. That’s why aluminum can behave differently depending on how it was formed.

Concept

extrusion or stamping

"[890.5s] Yeah, I don't get it whatever I think um because aluminum work hardens [895.3s] So I think when they first make it and it and aluminum [898.8s] It actually gets harder the time from extrusion or stamping or whatever that they make the aluminum to the time [906.4s] That it's it's formed it changes drastically."

Extrusion and stamping are ways factories shape metal. The process can change the metal’s properties, so the same aluminum sheet or tube can behave differently depending on how it was made.

Term

aluminum tubing

"[898.8s] It actually gets harder the time from extrusion or stamping or whatever that they make the aluminum to the time [906.4s] That it's it's formed it changes drastically. So like in my work. We do things with aluminum [912.0s] I hate that they call it pipe. It's aluminum tubing whatever"

Aluminum tubing is aluminum pipe used for parts or systems. The speaker is basically saying the correct word matters because tubing and pipe can refer to different kinds of material.

Term

Aluminum ages

"It's quite a bit stiffer so because it it not only work hardens it [937.1s] Aluminum actually ages and like the older it gets from the time it was extruded [942.2s] It gets stiffer."

Some aluminum alloys change over time after they’re made. After sitting for a while, it can feel stiffer and be harder to bend into the same shape.

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extruded

"Aluminum actually ages and like the older it gets from the time it was extruded [942.2s] It gets stiffer. So when they make it a new aluminum panel..."

Extrusion is how manufacturers make long metal shapes by pushing heated metal through a mold. The way it’s made can affect how the metal behaves later.

Term

stamping out the shape

"So when they make it a new aluminum panel at the Ford factory, you know [947.7s] They're stamping out the shape and they're probably going right to the next line..."

Stamping is when a machine presses sheet metal into a mold to make the exact shape. It’s one of the main ways car body panels are formed.

Term

crimp they fold the pinch weld

"...they're probably going right to the next line where they crimp they fold the [952.6s] Pinch weld over not pinch weld [954.7s] But when they where they fold it over the other panel..."

A pinch weld is a seam where two metal parts are joined by folding/crimping them together, often used in body construction. The segment suggests that fresh material folds more easily, while older aluminum may not form the seam as cleanly.

Term

u bend

"Like a u bend in an aluminum [979.1s] And this stuff's about eighth inch wall a little over eighth inch wall when we bend that [984.1s] On a new one, it'll bend a really nice round bend"

A U-bend is just bending metal into a U shape. They’re using it as an example of how fresh metal bends cleanly, but older metal can start to collapse or lose the nice curve.

Term

collapse... oval shaped

"But after a few months of sitting on the shelf when they go to bend they'll want to they want a sandwich [991.8s] ...It starts to collapse not it doesn't get like kinky like [999.9s] Exhaust but it starts to fold and get like oval shaped [1003.0s] for..."

If the metal isn’t as flexible anymore, bending can make it buckle. Instead of staying round, it can flatten or turn oval.

Concept

build process (big stuff vs little stuff)

"...it's always fun when you're putting the big stuff together ... you get a driveshaft in you're like man ... and then all the little stuff just slowly makes everything more terrible"

The speaker contrasts early “big wins” in a build (engine, transmission, driveshaft, exhaust) with later “little stuff” that becomes frustrating. This is a common hot-rod/custom build reality: wiring, brackets, clearances, heat shielding, and fitment issues often take longer than the headline components.

Term

manifold

"...the little h-pipe deal that you have that that goes in between the manifold and the H the HVAC system or whatever ..."

A manifold is a part that collects gases from multiple cylinders and routes them into the exhaust system. In this context, the speaker is describing how an H-pipe sits between the manifold area and other components, which matters for heat management and sensor behavior.

Term

h-pipe

"...the little h-pipe deal that you have that that goes in between the manifold and the H the HVAC system or whatever ... They have an h-pipe so the one head doesn't get hotter than the other and throw a code or whatever"

An “H-pipe” is an exhaust crossover component that connects the exhaust paths from different cylinder banks (commonly on V8s). The goal is to help balance exhaust flow and sound, and it can also affect how exhaust temperatures and emissions-related sensors behave.

Term

HVAC system

"...the little h-pipe deal that you have that that goes in between the manifold and the H the HVAC system or whatever ..."

HVAC is the system that controls heat and A/C inside the car. When you’re installing parts in the engine bay, HVAC stuff can take up space and affect where other components can go.

Term

Controller

"and I need to put a Controller in between there... So I didn't have enough room... So I kind of had a bail on that idea"

A controller is a small computer/module that helps run the system. They’re saying there wasn’t enough space to mount it where they first planned, so they moved it to a better spot.

Term

apron

"move it up to in front of the apron where it goes Through the where the cooler lines actually go through the apron"

The apron is a part of the car’s body near the front/engine area. It’s where you might route hoses or mount parts, and it can be tight to work around.

Term

cooler lines

"move it up to in front of the apron where it goes Through the where the cooler lines actually go through the apron"

Cooler lines are the hoses/tubes that carry the cooled fluid or refrigerant. They’re talking about routing them through a specific body area so everything fits.

Term

dryer

"...have room for the controller actually have room for the Compressor the dryer for the compressor in that corner over there"

The dryer is a filter-like part in the A/C system that helps keep moisture out of the refrigerant. It’s important for reliability, and it also takes up space when you’re fitting everything into tight areas.

Term

inner fender

"And I'll be kind of hidden underneath the inner apron or inner fender or whatever about it's just"

The inner fender is the inner panel behind the wheel. They’re saying they’ll tuck the parts up under it so the install looks cleaner and is less exposed.

Concept

custom kit fitment problems

"It's like you you get the kit you think you need you get it here Realize that A third of the fittings won't work... So now you have to figure out what those fittings are on each end"

Even when you buy a kit, it might not fit your exact car or layout. Then you have to figure out which parts/fittings actually work and make adjustments instead of just bolting everything on.

Term

headlight trim rings

"But we got headlight trim rings for that Nash that 38 Nash there's only one company that makes a retro fit"

A headlight trim ring is the ring around the headlight that makes it fit and look right. If you change the headlight or bulb, you may need the right ring so it mounts properly.

Concept

retrofit kit

"Nash that 38 Nash there's only one company that makes a retro fit from Basically, you just have to measure the the width of the headlight you have and see if this kit will retrofit it to a seven inch sealed beam bulb, you know"

A retrofit kit is an aftermarket set of parts designed to adapt an existing car to accept a different component than what it originally used. In this case, the kit is meant to convert the headlight setup to work with a specific bulb type.

Term

seven inch sealed beam bulb

"Basically, you just have to measure the the width of the headlight you have and see if this kit will retrofit it to a seven inch sealed beam bulb, you know"

A seven-inch sealed beam bulb refers to a standardized older-style headlight unit where the bulb and reflector are sealed together in a specific diameter. Many classic-car headlight conversions revolve around matching the correct sealed-beam size so the housing and trim ring fit properly.

Term

body filler

"And the kit they're like if the if the headlight is just a little bit larger than the trim ring [1336.3s] Then you put the trim ring on and you just body filler around it to meet and meet out."

Body filler is a putty used to fill small gaps and smooth uneven surfaces before painting. It’s common in custom or repair work, but it has to be applied and sanded carefully so it doesn’t crack later.

Concept

originality

"There's kind of worry about originality [1359.5s] like the whole time he's like [1361.3s] He's thought that even if we move the gas door because a gas gas cap came through the quarter panel is really gaudy"

In car restoration and customization, “originality” refers to keeping parts, locations, and appearance as they were from the factory. The discussion suggests a tension between making the car look right for use/fitment versus preserving factory-correct details.

Term

gas door

"He's thought that even if we move the gas door because a gas gas cap came through the quarter panel is really gaudy [1368.2s] All's there to do is like turn it and then it's in the trunk."

That’s the little door on the outside of the car that hides where you put the gas. If you move it, you usually have to cut and patch the body so it lines up and seals correctly.

Term

collector plates

"Well, can I put collector plates on it if I have if the gas cap's not in the stock? [1379.3s] I don't know you got a small block Chevy in it. What do you think?"

This sounds like they’re talking about license plate/registration rules—basically whether the car’s setup will be allowed. The exact term is unclear in the audio, but the point is compliance.

Car

small block Chevy

"[1379.3s] I don't know you got a small block Chevy in it. What do you think? [1384.1s] I don't think the dmv knows where your gas filler is supposed to be"

A “small block Chevy” is a popular Chevrolet V8 engine that a lot of people swap into other cars. The host is basically saying the engine swap doesn’t automatically mean the car’s fuel filler/body details will be accepted.

Term

DMV

"[1384.1s] I don't think the dmv knows where your gas filler is supposed to be"

DMV refers to the Department of Motor Vehicles, which handles registration and inspection rules. The discussion implies that non-stock modifications (like moving the fuel filler) may not be something the DMV checks closely, but rules vary by location.

Term

registration every year

"Yeah, but he doesn't want to pay registration every year. Do you understand? Yeah, neither do I who does right?"

They mean the yearly paperwork and fees you have to pay so the car is legal to drive. Some people try to avoid it if they’re not driving much.

Term

hobbyist plate

"Oh, yeah, he could just get a hobbyist plate And it does the same thing a lot of people don't like them because they're green."

Some states let you register certain cars as “hobby” vehicles. That can mean less hassle (and sometimes lower cost) than normal registration, especially for cars you don’t drive every day.

Brand

Rhoda America

"Like if you wanted a black plate in Wisconsin, you got a rhoda america plate But now they actually have like"

They mention a specific program or plate option name that lets you get a black plate in Wisconsin. The exact details aren’t explained here, but it’s part of the conversation about plate styles.

Term

yellow retro

"But now they actually have like Uh, they call it yellow retro. It's kind of like the 70s yellow and then they have a black one too"

They mention a Wisconsin plate option called “yellow retro,” which is designed to look like older plates from the 1970s. They’re basically talking about how different plate colors look and why people have opinions about them.

Concept

custom plate

"Did you so like as a high schooler? I always was like, I'm gonna get a custom plate for this car and building, you know what I mean?"

A custom plate is a license plate with your chosen letters/numbers. The hosts are saying it can cost money and take time to get approved.

Term

forms of multiple different variations

"I know because there was a pain in the ass too and you had to wait like months and months and yeah Fill out forms of multiple different variations that you accept and the border you prefer them in"

They’re talking about the application steps where you list several acceptable plate options. If your first pick isn’t allowed, they try the next one.

Car

Toyota Tundra

"Yeah, I um Want to re-register the tundra [1495.7s] Now that it's Not just the $2,000 beat up Toyota."

A Toyota Tundra is a big pickup truck. They’re talking about paperwork/registration for their Tundra and how much it’s worth now compared to when it was in rough shape.

Term

re-register

"Yeah, I um Want to re-register the tundra [1495.7s] Now that it's Not just the $2,000 beat up Toyota."

Re-registering means updating the vehicle’s registration with the state—often after ownership changes, moving between states, or correcting registration details. It can affect fees and how the vehicle is categorized/valued.

Topic

Road America plates

"So they already sent plates for it, but it's it was like 15 bucks to get [1568.1s] Road America plates [1569.9s] Nice that's the custom plate."

“Road America plates” refers to specialty license plates tied to Road America, a well-known motorsports venue in Wisconsin. The segment treats it as an optional add-on when registering a vehicle.

Concept

vehicle title

"...it'll allow somebody else to pick up a title for you ... if I lost the title on a car I'd bought ... I'd be like, all right, you give me ... I'll go pick up the title the new title"

The vehicle title is the official paper that shows who owns the car. If it’s lost or needs to be transferred, you have to file paperwork so the state can issue the correct title.

Concept

pick up the new title

"...I would fill out the form so they could have me go pick up the new title for them ... I'll go pick up the title the new title and then what I'll bring it to you"

“Pick up the new title” means the DMV/state issued an updated or replacement ownership paper. You can often have someone else do it, but you need the right paperwork so they’re allowed to.

Concept

working on paint

"Man, I gotta get this high going so I can get working on paint ... I'm working with a paint company now. So like my vision of what"

They’re talking about doing custom paint work on a car. Custom paint isn’t just color—it usually involves careful prep and applying layers so it looks right.

Concept

chameleon paint

"So I was buying I was designing my paints around like because I wanted to do a chameleon because it'd just be silly... they're sending me enough chameleon to do the whole car"

Chameleon paint is paint that looks like it changes color when you move around or when the light hits it differently. It’s usually pricier and takes more skill to apply cleanly than normal paint.

Concept

mini truck scene

"And so I've completely changed I'm gonna go more, you know leaning towards mini truck scene"

The “mini truck scene” refers to a style subculture focused on compact trucks and a show-focused look—often including custom paint, graphics, and airbrushed details. In paint discussions, it usually signals a more graphic-heavy, visual-impact aesthetic rather than a subtle OEM-style finish.

Term

airbrush

"There was a few Very few civics back in the day that had like a full show car airbrush that were like really cool"

Airbrushing is a way to paint detailed designs using a tool that sprays paint very finely. It’s commonly used for custom graphics and smooth color fades on show cars.

Term

tribal-ish pinstriping

"Are you gonna do like the pinstriping or like the like the tribal-ish pinstriping where like You ever see that instead of running a straight line down your down your like flame They're like whip it out and like make it look like really crazy and shit"

Tribal pinstriping is decorative artwork—usually sharp, flowing shapes—added along the side of a car. It can be painted by hand or sprayed in layers so it looks like part of the paint job.

Term

flat sanding

"Like you know what I mean it build you see yeah, I do clear do you see it through the clear? So then you end up flat sanding it It really depends on the look yeah, I mean if you want it flat in the end"

Flat sanding is when you sand the surface until it’s smooth and level. Paint layers can leave edges or bumps, and sanding helps them disappear before the final clear and polish.

Term

dropped shadowed

"It's gonna be dropped shadowed down under the chameleon. So you have like a some depth there"

A dropped shadow is like the shadow you see behind a sticker or lettering, but painted. It makes the graphic look like it sits on top of the paint instead of being flat.

Concept

custom paint graphics

"I think there's gonna be a couple different graphics in the white ... asymmetrical one ... engine's gonna come through the hood ... we're gonna let the paint do the talking not the body kit"

They’re designing custom paint graphics to be the main feature of the car. Instead of relying on big body changes, they want the paint to stand out and make the whole build look intentional.

Term

valve cover

"... the engine's gonna come through the hood ... capture the valve cover ... flow through the white valve cover"

The valve cover is a cover on top of the engine that protects important parts inside. The speaker is planning graphics so the paint flows visually onto that area.

Car

Honda Civic

"Is honda are you doing to do like, uh Body kit or anything like that? ... I don't know the stock body on the civic Has a look ..."

They’re customizing a Honda Civic. Instead of changing the whole body with a big kit, they want to keep the factory look and use paint/graphics plus a few small add-ons to stand out.

Part

front lip

"I don't think so. I'm just gonna do a front lip and then a little duck tail spoiler."

A front lip is a small add-on on the front bumper that sticks out a bit lower. It’s mostly for style, and it can also help the car’s airflow look cleaner.

Part

duck tail spoiler

"... and then a little duck tail spoiler. ... And then I'm gonna do a little duck carbon fiber duck tail spoiler"

A ducktail spoiler is a small spoiler that sits on the trunk and curves upward. It can make the car look more sporty and may help stability at speed.

Part

coil overs

"Just lower it which I'm putting coil. I got the front coil overs ... pulling the back suspension yesterday to do The rear coil overs ..."

Coilovers are suspension parts that let you lower the car. They also help you adjust how stiff or soft the ride feels.

Part

control arms

"... pulling the back suspension yesterday to do The rear coil overs and control arms anodized red aluminum control arms ..."

Control arms are parts that connect the suspension to the wheel. If you change them, it can change how the car rides and how the wheels line up.

Term

Chinese parts

"... anodized red aluminum control arms fancy The finest chinese parts, but I'm gonna slam it ..."

The speaker mentions using “Chinese parts,” which usually refers to aftermarket components sourced from overseas. Quality can vary widely, so fitment, durability, and warranty support are key considerations when mixing cheaper parts into a suspension or appearance build.

Term

slam it

"... The finest chinese parts, but I'm gonna slam it stock body ..."

“Slam it” means lowering the car a lot. It can look cool, but it may ride rough and rub on bumps or turn.

Term

paint scheme

"I don't know that was a part of the paint scheme that I was gonna do on my s10"

A paint scheme is just the “design” of the paint job—what colors go where and what the pattern looks like. It’s the blueprint for the final look.

Term

tack paper

"Yeah, I uh it was all repainted stock... Or are you gonna use um like that tack paper stuff or are you gonna paint like"

Tack paper is used to clean the surface right before painting. It helps remove tiny bits of dust so the paint comes out smoother.

Term

fine line tape

"So the company that's doing the sending me the paint they're actually sending me a bunch of fine line and stuff too because they make their own Fine line"

Fine line tape is thin masking tape used to block off areas while painting. It helps you get sharp, clean lines between different colors.

Company

Instagram

"He's got a ton of stuff out there on youtube and instagram pretty cool. Um"

They’re also talking about Instagram. It’s another place where you can see photos and updates of custom paint work.

Company

YouTube

"They transitioned into because the guy that owns it's a custom painter. He's got a ton of stuff out there on youtube and instagram pretty cool."

They’re saying the painter posts videos online. That’s useful because you can learn how they do the paint and see results before you hire someone.

Term

masking tape

"The thing that mask that masking tape whatever you want to call it helps with is like You're going from door like across door across panels It can seal your door edge"

Masking tape is the tape painters stick on to cover areas they don’t want paint on. It also helps keep the paint lines sharp and stops paint from getting into cracks between panels.

Term

door jamb

"You're going from door like across door across panels It can seal your door edge Like if you're cutting out from here... That's just gonna blow into your panel edges ... taping those jams suck balls when you're doing stripes"

A door jamb is the area around the door opening. When you paint stripes, paint can accidentally spray into that recessed area, so you need extra masking there.

Term

stencils

"You gotta have the patience for that Wacky airbrush stencils not like not to stencil like skulls on it, but like just different textures and stuff like that"

Stencils are templates that tell the painter exactly where to spray or paint. They help you get consistent shapes and keep the design from getting messy.

Concept

retro futuristic

"Retro futuristic. It could just be like behind like the first thing down kind of a thing. Yeah I thought it would do like something like that"

Retro futuristic is a style that looks like the past’s idea of what the future would look like. On a car, it usually means tech-themed shapes and graphics.

Term

hexagons

"I was thinking about doing that and then I found these kind of like it's like hexagons, but it's kind of warped hexagons So doing like the microchip or the the circuit board layer"

Hexagons are six-sided shapes. Using them in a car paint design can make the artwork look bold and “techy,” especially if the shapes are slightly distorted.

Term

circuit board layer

"I was thinking about doing that and then I found these kind of like it's like hexagons, but it's kind of warped hexagons So doing like the microchip or the the circuit board layer Masking some of that off"

They’re describing a paint design that looks like the lines on a computer circuit board. Making it look right usually takes careful layout and multiple paint layers.

Car

Porsche 944

"Uh, yeah, I saw a new thing uh Porsche is supposed to be bringing back the 944"

The Porsche 944 was an older Porsche sports car. People like it because it’s a fun, well-balanced design, and some versions were pretty quick. “Bringing it back” usually means Porsche might make a new car that feels like the old 944, but with modern parts.

Car

Toyota MR2

"There's always what I can't remember what company it was. They just teased it wasn't Toyota just teased the MR2 ... Maybe close to the MR2 actually gas motor"

The Toyota MR2 is a small sports car that has its engine in the middle. That layout helps it handle in a fun way. The conversation is basically about whether Toyota is actually planning a new one or if it’s just internet rumors.

Term

2.4 liter

"They're bringing it back mid-engine ... 2.4 liter 3 to 400 horsepower"

“2.4 liter” is the engine size—how big the engine is inside. Bigger displacement can help an engine make more power, but it’s not the only factor. Here it’s mentioned as a rumored engine size.

Term

3 to 400 horsepower

"mid-engine ... 2.4 liter 3 to 400 horsepower"

Horsepower is a way to describe how strong the engine is. Higher horsepower usually means the car can accelerate harder. In this conversation, it’s just a rumor about what a future car might make.

Concept

tunable motor

"What I was reading is it's supposed to be like the next tunable motor like the you know what I mean"

A “tunable motor” means an engine that’s easy to modify for more performance. Enthusiasts like these because tuning and upgrades tend to work well and don’t cause constant problems. The hosts are basically saying they want a car where the engine is great for upgrades.

Term

Toyota 86

"Like they didn't do a very good job with like those brz ... Toyota 86 things"

The Toyota 86 is a small sports car meant to be fun and light. The speakers are saying they didn’t think it got the right engine upgrade or “more” where it mattered. They’re using it as a comparison point for what they want next.

Term

BRZ

"Like they didn't do a very good job with like those brz ... Toyota 86 things"

The BRZ is Subaru’s version of a small sports car. It’s closely related to the Toyota 86, so people compare them a lot. Here it’s mentioned as an example of a sports car that didn’t get the bigger engine upgrade the hosts wanted.

Term

twin turbo v8

"I guess but what the twin turbo v8 Yeah, I mean those cars they're they're cool."

A twin-turbo V8 is a V8 engine with two turbochargers. Turbos cram more air into the engine, which usually makes the car feel stronger and faster.

Brand

Lexus design language

"They definitely have um They definitely have um Lexus design language, you know, I mean like that Um"

A brand’s design language is basically its “look.” The hosts are saying the car seems to follow Lexus’s styling style, but it doesn’t match the drama you’d expect from a performance car.

Car

Lexus Lfa

"... what it is. Yeah, that's I mean look at like the lexus lfa That was a very understated car. I had a v12 or ..."

The Lexus LFA is a rare, high-performance sports car made by Lexus. It’s known for having a V10 engine and for being more subtle in appearance than some other supercars. That combination is why people bring it up.

Car

Chevrolet Camaro

"I mean, I think wasn't that when they brought the Camaro back pretty sure that's a that was Holden based"

The Camaro is a famous GM muscle car. The hosts are saying that when GM brought it back, it was influenced by Holden (an Australian GM brand), which helped shape how the car felt and looked.

Car

Pontiac G8

"I know like the the Pontiac g8 was just a straight Holden Commodore and to be honest ... I worked at a Pontiac dealership when the g8 gxp was out on its rampage"

The Pontiac G8 GXP was a performance version of the G8, which the hosts describe as being closely related to the Holden Commodore. They also discuss how it still “felt very Pontiac,” highlighting the brand’s identity even when the car’s roots were Australian/GM global.

Car

Holden Commodore

"I know like the the Pontiac g8 was just a straight Holden Commodore and to be honest"

Holden Commodore is a GM car from Australia. The hosts are saying the Pontiac G8 was basically built on that same foundation, so it wasn’t “purely American” in design and engineering.

Car

Holden Caprice

"...raight Holden Commodore and to be honest And the Caprice The Caprice is kind of cool"

The Holden Caprice is a large, comfortable sedan made by Holden. It’s meant more for relaxed driving than for sporty performance. The podcast mentions it because it’s an interesting option within the Holden lineup.

Car

Chevrolet SSR

"Pretty good idea. It would have been they would have sold more of them than the SSR SSR down the road for me every time I see it. I'm like, I don't know about that"

The Chevrolet SSR is a weird-looking GM truck that tried to blend truck practicality with a retro car vibe. The hosts are comparing sales potential—basically saying a Holden-based pickup might have been more popular than the SSR.

Car

Chevrolet HHR

"I've spent a lot of time trying to figure out what that it like when you look at in the hhr and ssr"

The Chevrolet HHR is a compact retro-styled car from GM that took inspiration from classic 1940s-era design cues. In this discussion, the hosts reference it alongside the SSR to explain how both cars use similar “retro” styling language.

Concept

Design language comparison (retro styling cues)

"I've spent a lot of time trying to figure out what that it like when you look at in the hhr and ssr And I'm not saying the same thing, but they have like similar. We're trying to look like 40s design"

The segment compares the SSR to the Chevrolet HHR and notes “similar” design cues—specifically “trying to look like 40s design.” This is about how modern cars borrow visual language from older eras, which can strongly influence how people perceive styling success.

Term

six speed

"But it was a six liter a six speed car And that like you pro charge them"

“Six-speed” means the car has a manual gearbox with six gears. More gears can help the engine feel stronger and keep it in the right rev range.

Concept

suspension components are mounted really down far

"The frame sticks down so far all the suspension components are mounted really down far in I think because they're making room for all that"

If the suspension parts sit low under the car, there’s less clearance to the ground. That makes it harder to lower the car without rubbing or scraping.

Concept

not like a very easily customizable car

"like it's not like A very easily customizable car their truck whatever you know"

Some cars are harder to modify because the important parts are packed tightly. When there’s not much space underneath, lowering and other mods can be limited.

Term

battery would die

"The battery dot you put the roof up and down three times and the battery would die"

The speaker describes an early problem where the battery would die after cycling the roof up and down multiple times. This points to a real-world electrical/charging or battery-drain issue that can show up on certain vehicles, especially around power-operated tops.

Car

Plymouth Prowler

"Uh, yeah, what do you think about the prowler? I really didn't know I mean, I thought they were really cool off the bat at their fault... It wouldn't even have to be it wouldn't have even had to been a High horsepower v8 it just get the sound coming out of that car and it would have been a banger, you know"

They’re talking about the Plymouth Prowler, a weird-looking retro car from the late ’90s. The host thinks it would be way cooler if it had a V8 engine, because the car’s current setup doesn’t feel as exciting.

Term

V8

"They would have sold like 10x of them if they had a v8 in it... It's cool now to see people putting like... v8s and shit and stuff in them together, you know, yeah modified."

A V8 is a type of engine with eight cylinders. The idea here is that putting a V8 into the car would make it feel more powerful and sound better.

Concept

V8 engine swap / modified retro car

"It's cool now to see people putting like... v8s and shit and stuff in them together, you know, yeah modified. They're becoming pretty sweet"

The segment highlights a common hot-rod approach: modifying a retro-styled car by swapping in a V8 to improve performance and character. This is often done to overcome the factory engine’s limitations and to create a more desirable sound and driving feel.

Term

ditch those headlights

"The first thing I would do is ditch those fucking headlights. Oh my god. Are they terrible? That's the one thing I don't like the car."

They want to replace the car’s original headlights because they don’t like how they look or work. Swapping headlights is a common customization.

Term

enj headlights

"It'd be cool to do like in you know, enj headlights are like old-school hot rod enj's they're like, uh, it's like a long oval headlight from the side"

The speaker is describing a specific style of headlight they associate with “enj” (likely a shorthand for a brand or a hot-rod headlight style). They characterize them as old-school hot rod headlights with a long oval shape and small lens dimensions, suggesting a retro-inspired swap.

Concept

analog as possible

"But I think a lot of this I think a lot of people right now are going like even / Even these supercar companies, they're all going like as analog as possible, which is really cool"

They mean cars that feel more “old-school” and mechanical instead of super computer-controlled. It’s usually about keeping the driving experience more direct and less complicated.

Concept

hypercar stuff

"There's like a pushback against the hypercar stuff, you know, which I think / They're building enthusiast cars, but they're not building them for enthusiasts. I think was the problem"

They’re contrasting the newest, most extreme supercars with a more enjoyable, enthusiast-focused approach. The idea is that “more tech and more speed” doesn’t automatically mean “more fun to own and drive.”

Concept

1500 horse

"I can't remember. I think you talked about the last time there's like a yanko / Hover of ed or something like that. That's like 1500 horse with like a three-year warranty or some shit"

They’re talking about a car making an absurd amount of power—on the order of 1,500 horsepower. It’s meant to show how extreme some specialty performance packages can get.

Term

three-year warranty

"That's like 1500 horse with like a three-year warranty or some shit"

They’re mentioning that the seller offers coverage for about three years. That matters because very powerful or heavily modified cars can be costly if something breaks.

Concept

pushrod motor

"That was that was doing it. It was a it was still a pushrod motor twinter will pushrod motor"

A pushrod engine is an engine design where the cam pushes on rods, and those rods open the valves. It’s a common setup, and the conversation is basically saying that even “crazy” power can come from a familiar engine layout.

Car

Chevrolet Corvette

"I mean, it's still a Chevy Corvette. It's still gonna be like shut the door and Doesn't necessarily it'll shut different and sound different, but it's not like a supercar"

The Corvette is Chevrolet’s famous sports car. It can feel special and sound great, but it’s usually not as wildly expensive or custom as true supercars.

Concept

custom made body

"Like where it's, you know, fucking $300,000 custom made body and shit So general motors products, you know, I mean, we've all worked on older Corvettes"

“Custom made body” means the car’s outer panels are specially made instead of coming from a regular factory design. The point is that some supercars cost a lot because they’re built with lots of custom work.

Concept

kit car

"They laugh because they're like this is pretty much just a kit car from a manufacturer like I mean, that's why those some of those like the zinger. They're making their own motor and stuff"

A “kit car” is a vehicle assembled from a kit—often using donor parts or components—rather than being fully engineered and built as a one-off factory supercar. The hosts are using the term to argue that some high-end builds are still, in spirit, based on simpler foundations and aftermarket components.

Car

Audi R8

"Potentially buy an r8. It'd have to be a v10"

The Audi R8 is a supercar from Audi. They’re saying they’d want the V10 version, because that’s the engine option people often associate with the best sound and feel.

Term

V10

"Yeah, you get a uh, uh six speed v10 man. Oh my god Give me so much fun It sounds like the most fun."

A V10 is a big engine with ten cylinders. It usually revs high and sounds amazing, and in this case it’s paired with a manual transmission for extra driver involvement.

Term

wheelies

"We watch them do wheelies at the drag strip power wheel. I know that's crazy Yeah, yeah, it seems like I just saw one there was one for sale in texas"

Wheelies are when a car lifts its front wheels off the ground under hard acceleration. The hosts mention seeing wheelies at a drag strip, which highlights how much traction and power the car has and how aggressive the launch can be.

Term

drag strip

"We watch them do wheelies at the drag strip power wheel. I know that's crazy Yeah, yeah, it seems like I just saw one there was one for sale in texas"

A drag strip is a track built for straight-line racing. Cars run down the strip to show how fast they can accelerate.

Concept

manual transmission as an enthusiast selling point

"uh, the first version of the r8s were the only ones that came with a six speed from what I What google saw? but uh So it was the first but it was like 85 grand"

Enthusiasts often like manual transmissions because they feel more engaging to drive. Even if a faster automatic exists, a manual can still be more fun and can be rarer, which makes it more valuable to some buyers.

Term

brine

"[3193.0s] And in the meantime there were like clean semi clean roads, so it's like even more like [3199.3s] The roads were clean and then they're spraying brine down and shit you [3205.8s] You [3207.1s] Right now at 11 30 in the morning on Easter"

Brine is salt mixed with water that gets sprayed on roads to stop ice. It’s rough on cars over time, especially if you don’t wash the underbody.

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