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Coming up today, used EVs on Amazon,
Hyundai's Arnick 3, and Tesla offers a new rental service.
Plus, stay tuned later in the show.
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Well, Hertz is now selling used electric vehicles
on Amazon Autos, starting with the Chevrolet Bolt EV
in Seattle.
Prices started $16,500 for high mileage cars
to about $20,000 for low mileage versions,
but that doesn't include extra fees and taxes.
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mostly Bolts actually, over 100 Miro EVs.
Some Volvo, Subaru and Hyundai models in there as well.
The partnership expands Amazon's new certified pre-owned
and used car sales business on their Amazon Autos site.
Would you fancy an old Hertz rental in your driveway?
If the price was right, if the price was right,
people don't treat rental cars very well.
So it'd have to be a stunning deal.
Now, Hyundai is launching the Ioniq 3,
showing a close to production version
at the Munich Motor Show in a couple of weeks time.
The Ioniq 3 sits between the entry level Insta
and the more compact Kona Electric,
which is, well, I've owned one,
getting a little long in the tooth right now,
being slightly smaller than a Kona,
but with more advanced tech than the Insta.
Hyundai positions it to attract buyers
who want something more refined
than the cheapest of cheap EVs,
but still affordable.
Shoppers can pick between two battery sizes,
the done thing at Hyundai Kia,
58.3 or 81.4 kilowatt hours.
So on a small vehicle, that's 365 miles,
plus or minus, of range.
Front wheel drive, 400-volt version of eGMP,
that's the platform on which it sits,
making the car less expensive to build and sell you.
Means charging isn't as fast as Hyundai's 800-volt EVs,
but if you don't need that,
if you aren't road tripping
or if you are road tripping and don't mind waiting,
Ionic 3 could be for you.
Eight seconds naught to 60,
gives you an idea of what kind of vehicle,
small vehicle this is.
Inside, Hyundai's latest infotainment system,
so Apple CarPlay, customizable interface,
new EV sound effects,
and this should come with Apple CarPlay Ultra,
which is, well, it's really interesting
because the only way to get one of those,
isn't it to buy an Aston Martin or a Bentley?
It's a very expensive car,
is the first one with Apple CarPlay Ultra.
So when Ionic 3 arrives with Apple CarPlay Ultra,
which takes over the entire dash, by the way,
the instrument cluster in front of you,
the infotainment screen, it's all Apple.
And it's meant to be very, very good as well.
This is an affordable way to get that.
Hyundai's got their own operating system
to roll out in this as well, could play us.
You can update, unlock,
you can personalize your car as well.
It'll be built in Turkey
and following a strategy that boosted their European sales
by making them locally.
Launching the Insta and Ionic 3 together
shows that Hyundai wants to grow,
not only in the premium segments,
but the budget ones as well,
should be available early next year.
So looking forward to its official launch
and then an early 2026 debut.
Now, getting your Tesla repaired
just got a little easier
at select service and collision centers.
Tesla is now offering its own in-house car rental.
It's $45 a day targeting owners
that don't have a loaner during out-of-warranty
or collision repairs.
This move helps fill the gap for drivers
who otherwise pay for third-party rentals.
Tesla is also improving the customer experience
at the locations, customers can now browse
and buy things like, well, all-weather mats
and pet liners while you're in the waiting area.
You can take them home, no shipping.
More snacks and drinks they say will be stocked
and offered on the product side
a reminder that Tesla introducing
the large six-seat Model YL in China,
more news today suggesting it won't come to America.
And if it does, it would be late next year.
Elon Musk is still pushing obviously cyber cab
and robot taxi and robots as the future of the company.
I think actually a Model YL,
a proper three row Model Y
with actually room in the back for third row,
for people with legs.
I think that would sell very well, but what do I know?
Now, looking at the federal tax credit,
that just got easier for US buyers.
I've been talking a little bit about this recently.
The IRS has confirmed if you sign a binding contract
and make a payment like a deposit or a trade-in
before the end of next month, September 30th,
that it qualifies you for the federal tax credit,
including if the vehicle arrives literally
in your driveway after the deadline.
And that is both for the new vehicle clean,
the new clean vehicle credit, so seven and a half grand,
all the used one for 4,000 as well.
And the commercial credit,
which never gets talked about of seven and a half thousand
dollars, that's a change on the old IRS rules,
which meant you had to actually have it all done
and dusted by close of business on 30th of September.
The new act ends federal EV credits after September though,
and phases out the alternative fuel vehicle refueling credit
by next June as well,
and the energy efficiency credits
for making your home more efficient,
that all ends at the end of the year.
With the sunsetting of incentives,
California confirming that they're looking
at their own subsidies and they'll match it,
seven and a half for new, four grand for used,
that's not confirmed though,
the proposals are on the table
while they work out funding.
Okay, Tesla is adding low power mode
and that turn signal retrofit is going down very well
with the Tesla community.
Tesla is adding a low power mode
to help owners save battery when parked.
This tackles the issue of energy loss
from always on features like century mode
and summons standby.
Instead of shutting down the car completely,
low power mode leaves those basic functions running
so owners can check or wake their car using the app
when turned on, it'll automatically switch off.
A high drain system,
century mode, keep climate, scheduled preconditioning
would all get turned off,
making long-term parking,
so if you go to the airport for a couple of weeks
and you think, oh, I didn't leave the car
with enough state of charge,
you can get the app open,
put it into effectively a sleep state,
owners will be able to turn specific features on
but will get a warning if they try to use something
that would increase the battery drain.
Activation is coming to the Tesla app
and the in-car display as well
and a battery threshold
will probably be able to be enabled as well
to enable low power mode automatically,
a bit like your mobile phone.
Separately in China, we've been talking about
the retrofit, the physical left turn signal
going back on to Model 3 cars
for $350, including installation,
and it's just signaling
so it doesn't do the high beams
or washer functions or anything like that.
Tesla hasn't announced plans or the pricing
for older Model 3s in China
and this update isn't available
for other models or markets yet
but it seems to be going down very well.
Tesla's service centers are starting
to get more inquiries according to reports
about, hey, can I come in and get my stalk?
No, not yet, but we'll wait and see.
Now, ChargePoint is rolling out
Omniport retrofits for its EV stations.
Older charging stations can now work
with every EV in North America
thanks to a new conversion kit from ChargePoint.
They're calling Omniport stations upgraded with the kit
no longer require adapters
and any EV can plug in
without worrying about a connector or an adapter.
Until now, this all-in-one compatibility
was only standard on the new stations produced by ChargePoint
but the kit brings the same benefit
to any existing hardware.
Omniport works with J3400 or Nax, a CCS-1
and J177-2, so you haven't got to figure out
which plug to look for
or did I bring the correct adapter with me?
Charging is made really simple.
You choose your EV type in the ChargePoint app
and the right connector automatically comes out
and charging begins.
Businesses can upgrade their stations
by switching out the hardware
and their little downtime, they say.
This lets them support every new EV on the market
no matter what connector or socket it has
and future-proofs your charging site.
So if you're a site owner
and you wanna get more cars there,
they say you can be completely future-proofed
by offering every type of connector
to every type of EV driver.
Right, stick around,
take a quick break when we come back
or go down under
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Now, let's talk a little bit about a minivan,
a plug-in hybrid from LEVC.
So, Geely, the Chinese company,
is the owner of the London taxi company, LEVC.
And their minivan, the L380,
is gonna be coming to the UK next year
and will add a plug-in hybrid version alongside Electric.
Now, in China, the Electric L380
is sold at Galaxy dealerships.
And that's had a big discount recently
by about almost a third of the price
after some slower sales prompted
a price cut back in March.
Now, LEVC was formerly known as the London Taxi Corporation.
They started going EV with range extenders in 2017
with the original look of that black London cab.
Production of the minivan, though,
the L380 began last year.
Our deliveries in China began last summer,
but they were only selling in the thousands of the units,
hence the price cut and the look outside of China
of where could we sell it?
Well, the L380 is large.
It's 5.3 meters long.
It's two meters wide with a 3.2-meter wheelbase.
That's seven centimeters longer
than Mercedes-Benz V-Class.
Get it as a six-seater, so two plus two plus two
and an optional fourth row.
This thing is so big.
The standard rear-wheel drive model
has a 100 kilowatt-hour battery.
Higher trims add bigger batteries
or dual-motor or wheel drive setups
and the plug-in hybrid version
has been spotted on Chinese roads,
sharing the same shape,
but adding features like different wheels,
different headlights, millimeter-wave radar,
and a big visible LiDAR sensor as well.
This setup probably combines,
you would think, the 1.5-liter engine
that they use in some of their vehicles
with two electric motors
and the plug-in hybrid version could be good
if you do a lot of motorway runs
and you're worried about charging
and things like that.
There wouldn't be, personally, 100 kilowatt-hour battery.
It's probably all you need.
Australia is next in the news.
They're considering a new nationwide road user charge
based on how far you drive.
That seems very fair to me.
Aiming to make sure that all road users,
including those that drive electric,
are funding road maintenance.
That seems fair.
Does it not?
It seems road tolls, see?
People build a new road sometimes.
You get it a lot in mainland Europe.
Sometimes those roads are privately funded
or private capital comes in to fund a ring road.
An extension of bypass.
And there's a toll on it
because somebody had to build it
and it wasn't the state that did it.
And so in Australia,
they're looking at those that drive more
would end up paying more.
Right now, petrol and diesel vehicles
pay a fuel tax,
but electric vehicles pay nothing of any equivalent,
which is causing fuel excise revenue to fall
as people switch to clean cars.
At a round table in Canberra,
the Treasury said there was strong support
for a new charge,
but whether it will apply to EVs
or all vehicles isn't settled.
Well, it should apply to all vehicles, shouldn't it?
But then again, you shouldn't get charged any other taxes.
It should just be a flat rate
because we shouldn't worry about
how we power our vehicles.
But if you are driving on the road
and maybe there's a weight thing as well.
So maybe there's categories of weight.
So obviously heavy vehicles can cause more damage
and it's not a simple subject to get right,
but it's doable.
Victoria tried a road user charge in 2021,
asking battery electric vehicle owners
to pay almost three cents per kilometer,
but the High Court said that only the federal government
has the power to run schemes like that.
Meanwhile, New South Wales has been developing
its own plan with EVs at two and a half cents per kilometer
and a bit less for plug-in hybrids.
Now, federal and state leaders
are working on national options
with the government options paper
going to state treasurers.
Maybe early September,
ideas on the table include a rollout for trucking first
and then maybe a phase in after that.
Okay, moving on.
Now, most people focus on fast chargers for EVs
and that's absolutely right
because when you're on the road,
maybe you've got to get somewhere quickly,
kids in the car, that kind of stuff.
You don't want a queue for a charger
and you want your EV to charge quickly
and I totally get it.
But as I remind people far too often on this show,
home slow AC charging is not only far more important
to talk about, it's far more important to focus on
to make sure that we're doing it in the right way,
that we're integrating with our home electricity,
we're maybe adding some solar and storage at home
if it's possible for you,
but also people that can't charge at home,
either apartment living or whatever,
that we have that conversation properly
so that everyone can go EV.
We're really lucky,
but we didn't have a driveway really
until we moved into this house.
We've lived a lot in a lot of urban areas,
certainly when we lived in London,
we parked outside our house,
had a parking permit on the street,
but it wasn't off road
and so we need to have a good conversation
about where our EVs are charged
and nearly all of it is overnight when it's slow.
The challenge though,
for people that use their garages for storage
rather than parking,
means that your home might not be set up
for easy charging.
Now, some news coming out today suggesting
that if you had a clear out of your garage,
the number of homes that would support EV charging
would rise.
So this seems to be some American research
coming out today.
The problem is that having the potential for home charging
doesn't mean it's cheap or easy to set up.
Many homes need electrical upgrades
just for the outlets needed for level two charging.
That can cost thousands.
Multifamily homes,
apartments and condos face more challenges,
but what about somewhere obvious to charge your car?
Well, it turns out that we're all using our garages
to store our junk and leaving our cars outside.
And so this suggests,
have a good old clear out this weekend,
make room for the car
and it'll be easier to charge your electric car
when you do that.
Okay, thanks for the reminder, mum.
Now, let's finish up my garage as a mess
and we don't store the car in the garage
as you know, of course not.
Let's finish off by talking about Nissan's new electric city car.
It will be called the Wave launching in early 2027
and it's very closely related to the new Renault Twingo,
not the old one, but the new one that's coming back.
Both cars will be built in Slovenia at the Renault plant there.
Many expected the Pixel name to return,
but Nissan went with Wave,
previously used for a trim level of the little micro,
but now it'll be a standalone nameplate on its own.
Nissan is expanding its partnership with Renault.
Like other recent models, the Wave and the Twingo
will share platforms and technologies.
The new Renault Twingo,
which should come next spring, we think,
and be well under 20 grand.
If you look at the cars
that are at the bottom end of the market here,
Leap Motor T3, 14 grand.
The Dacia Spring, 14 grand.
And so that little Renault Twingo,
unless it's super stylish,
which the Renault 5 is, that's just over 20.
So maybe this has got to fit
somewhere around that sort of 15 to 20 grand price bracket.
We think it'll be on the AMPR Ampere small platform
and a little 63 kilowatt motor
from the Geely Corporation,
little 30 kilowatt hour CATL battery.
But on a small car, that is still fine.
I've had two Renault Zoe's over the years.
And they're not massively small,
but you can go quite a long way on a small battery.
Also mentioning the Dacia Spring,
well, of course, Dacia is the cheap bit of Renault.
And a cheaper Dacia version based on the same platform
could also arrive as well.
Nissan and Renault already make EVs together
like the Renault 5 and the Nissan Micra,
taking advantage of shared investments.
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The expanding market in the cheap end of EVs.
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for so many people that don't,
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They don't need an SUV.
Then they haven't got kids,
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About this episode
Used electric vehicles are now available for purchase on Amazon through Hertz, starting with the Chevrolet Bolt EV. Hyundai is set to unveil the Ioniq 3, a compact EV with advanced tech and two battery options. Tesla introduces an in-house rental service for customers needing a vehicle during repairs. The episode also discusses the IRS's new rules for federal tax credits on EV purchases, ChargePoint's Omniport retrofits for charging stations, and Nissan's upcoming electric city car, the Wave, in collaboration with Renault.