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Well, Hertz is now selling used electric vehicles
05:49
on Amazon Autos, starting with the Chevrolet Bolt EV
05:53
Prices started $16,500 for high mileage cars
05:57
to about $20,000 for low mileage versions,
06:00
but that doesn't include extra fees and taxes.
06:02
For example, that 20 grand Bolt EV
06:04
is actually a $22,000 vehicle
06:07
once the dealer and government charges are added.
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At launch, buyers within 75 miles of Dallas,
06:13
Houston, LA and Seattle can use the service.
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All fees are shown up front.
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Cancellation before pickup is free
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and test drives can be scheduled
06:24
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Hertz plans to offer more car models,
06:30
offloading their Tesla's and Polestar's
06:32
through Amazon Autos
06:34
as the program expands to all 45 US locations.
06:38
Currently, Hertz lists about 300 used EVs for sales,
06:42
mostly Bolts actually, over 100 Miro EVs.
06:46
Some Volvo, Subaru and Hyundai models in there as well.
06:48
The partnership expands Amazon's new certified pre-owned
06:53
and used car sales business on their Amazon Autos site.
06:58
Would you fancy an old Hertz rental in your driveway?
07:01
If the price was right, if the price was right,
07:04
people don't treat rental cars very well.
07:06
So it'd have to be a stunning deal.
07:08
Now, Hyundai is launching the Ioniq 3,
07:12
showing a close to production version
07:14
at the Munich Motor Show in a couple of weeks time.
07:17
The Ioniq 3 sits between the entry level Insta
07:22
and the more compact Kona Electric,
07:24
which is, well, I've owned one,
07:26
getting a little long in the tooth right now,
07:28
being slightly smaller than a Kona,
07:30
but with more advanced tech than the Insta.
07:33
Hyundai positions it to attract buyers
07:35
who want something more refined
07:37
than the cheapest of cheap EVs,
07:39
but still affordable.
07:41
Shoppers can pick between two battery sizes,
07:44
the done thing at Hyundai Kia,
07:46
58.3 or 81.4 kilowatt hours.
07:49
So on a small vehicle, that's 365 miles,
07:53
plus or minus, of range.
07:55
Front wheel drive, 400-volt version of eGMP,
07:58
that's the platform on which it sits,
08:00
making the car less expensive to build and sell you.
08:04
Means charging isn't as fast as Hyundai's 800-volt EVs,
08:09
but if you don't need that,
08:10
if you aren't road tripping
08:11
or if you are road tripping and don't mind waiting,
08:13
Ionic 3 could be for you.
08:15
Eight seconds naught to 60,
08:17
gives you an idea of what kind of vehicle,
08:19
small vehicle this is.
08:21
Inside, Hyundai's latest infotainment system,
08:24
so Apple CarPlay, customizable interface,
08:28
new EV sound effects,
08:30
and this should come with Apple CarPlay Ultra,
08:34
which is, well, it's really interesting
08:36
because the only way to get one of those,
08:38
isn't it to buy an Aston Martin or a Bentley?
08:41
It's a very expensive car,
08:43
is the first one with Apple CarPlay Ultra.
08:45
So when Ionic 3 arrives with Apple CarPlay Ultra,
08:48
which takes over the entire dash, by the way,
08:49
the instrument cluster in front of you,
08:51
the infotainment screen, it's all Apple.
08:54
And it's meant to be very, very good as well.
08:56
This is an affordable way to get that.
08:58
Hyundai's got their own operating system
09:00
to roll out in this as well, could play us.
09:02
You can update, unlock,
09:04
you can personalize your car as well.
09:06
It'll be built in Turkey
09:07
and following a strategy that boosted their European sales
09:10
by making them locally.
09:14
Launching the Insta and Ionic 3 together
09:17
shows that Hyundai wants to grow,
09:19
not only in the premium segments,
09:20
but the budget ones as well,
09:22
should be available early next year.
09:26
So looking forward to its official launch
09:28
and then an early 2026 debut.
09:31
Now, getting your Tesla repaired
09:33
just got a little easier
09:34
at select service and collision centers.
09:37
Tesla is now offering its own in-house car rental.
09:40
It's $45 a day targeting owners
09:43
that don't have a loaner during out-of-warranty
09:46
or collision repairs.
09:47
This move helps fill the gap for drivers
09:49
who otherwise pay for third-party rentals.
09:52
Tesla is also improving the customer experience
09:54
at the locations, customers can now browse
09:56
and buy things like, well, all-weather mats
09:59
and pet liners while you're in the waiting area.
10:03
You can take them home, no shipping.
10:05
More snacks and drinks they say will be stocked
10:08
and offered on the product side
10:10
a reminder that Tesla introducing
10:11
the large six-seat Model YL in China,
10:15
more news today suggesting it won't come to America.
10:19
And if it does, it would be late next year.
10:21
Elon Musk is still pushing obviously cyber cab
10:25
and robot taxi and robots as the future of the company.
10:29
I think actually a Model YL,
10:31
a proper three row Model Y
10:34
with actually room in the back for third row,
10:36
for people with legs.
10:38
I think that would sell very well, but what do I know?
10:42
Now, looking at the federal tax credit,
10:45
that just got easier for US buyers.
10:48
I've been talking a little bit about this recently.
10:50
The IRS has confirmed if you sign a binding contract
10:55
and make a payment like a deposit or a trade-in
10:59
before the end of next month, September 30th,
11:01
that it qualifies you for the federal tax credit,
11:04
including if the vehicle arrives literally
11:07
in your driveway after the deadline.
11:10
And that is both for the new vehicle clean,
11:12
the new clean vehicle credit, so seven and a half grand,
11:15
all the used one for 4,000 as well.
11:18
And the commercial credit,
11:18
which never gets talked about of seven and a half thousand
11:21
dollars, that's a change on the old IRS rules,
11:25
which meant you had to actually have it all done
11:28
and dusted by close of business on 30th of September.
11:32
The new act ends federal EV credits after September though,
11:37
and phases out the alternative fuel vehicle refueling credit
11:43
by next June as well,
11:44
and the energy efficiency credits
11:47
for making your home more efficient,
11:49
that all ends at the end of the year.
11:51
With the sunsetting of incentives,
11:54
California confirming that they're looking
11:55
at their own subsidies and they'll match it,
11:57
seven and a half for new, four grand for used,
12:00
that's not confirmed though,
12:02
the proposals are on the table
12:04
while they work out funding.
12:07
Okay, Tesla is adding low power mode
12:10
and that turn signal retrofit is going down very well
12:14
with the Tesla community.
12:15
Tesla is adding a low power mode
12:17
to help owners save battery when parked.
12:19
This tackles the issue of energy loss
12:21
from always on features like century mode
12:23
and summons standby.
12:25
Instead of shutting down the car completely,
12:28
low power mode leaves those basic functions running
12:30
so owners can check or wake their car using the app
12:33
when turned on, it'll automatically switch off.
12:36
A high drain system,
12:38
century mode, keep climate, scheduled preconditioning
12:43
would all get turned off,
12:44
making long-term parking,
12:46
so if you go to the airport for a couple of weeks
12:49
and you think, oh, I didn't leave the car
12:51
with enough state of charge,
12:52
you can get the app open,
12:54
put it into effectively a sleep state,
12:57
owners will be able to turn specific features on
13:01
but will get a warning if they try to use something
13:04
that would increase the battery drain.
13:07
Activation is coming to the Tesla app
13:08
and the in-car display as well
13:11
and a battery threshold
13:12
will probably be able to be enabled as well
13:15
to enable low power mode automatically,
13:18
a bit like your mobile phone.
13:20
Separately in China, we've been talking about
13:22
the retrofit, the physical left turn signal
13:26
going back on to Model 3 cars
13:29
for $350, including installation,
13:34
and it's just signaling
13:35
so it doesn't do the high beams
13:36
or washer functions or anything like that.
13:39
Tesla hasn't announced plans or the pricing
13:42
for older Model 3s in China
13:45
and this update isn't available
13:46
for other models or markets yet
13:48
but it seems to be going down very well.
13:51
Tesla's service centers are starting
13:54
to get more inquiries according to reports
13:57
about, hey, can I come in and get my stalk?
13:59
No, not yet, but we'll wait and see.
14:03
Now, ChargePoint is rolling out
14:05
Omniport retrofits for its EV stations.
14:08
Older charging stations can now work
14:09
with every EV in North America
14:11
thanks to a new conversion kit from ChargePoint.
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They're calling Omniport stations upgraded with the kit
14:17
no longer require adapters
14:18
and any EV can plug in
14:20
without worrying about a connector or an adapter.
14:23
Until now, this all-in-one compatibility
14:25
was only standard on the new stations produced by ChargePoint
14:29
but the kit brings the same benefit
14:30
to any existing hardware.
14:32
Omniport works with J3400 or Nax, a CCS-1
14:37
and J177-2, so you haven't got to figure out
14:41
which plug to look for
14:42
or did I bring the correct adapter with me?
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Charging is made really simple.
14:48
You choose your EV type in the ChargePoint app
14:51
and the right connector automatically comes out
14:54
and charging begins.
14:56
Businesses can upgrade their stations
14:57
by switching out the hardware
14:59
and their little downtime, they say.
15:02
This lets them support every new EV on the market
15:04
no matter what connector or socket it has
15:08
and future-proofs your charging site.
15:10
So if you're a site owner
15:11
and you wanna get more cars there,
15:13
they say you can be completely future-proofed
15:15
by offering every type of connector
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to every type of EV driver.
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So, Geely, the Chinese company,
18:43
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18:47
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is gonna be coming to the UK next year
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and will add a plug-in hybrid version alongside Electric.
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Now, in China, the Electric L380
18:59
is sold at Galaxy dealerships.
19:03
And that's had a big discount recently
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by about almost a third of the price
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after some slower sales prompted
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a price cut back in March.
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Now, LEVC was formerly known as the London Taxi Corporation.
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They started going EV with range extenders in 2017
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with the original look of that black London cab.
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the L380 began last year.
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Our deliveries in China began last summer,
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but they were only selling in the thousands of the units,
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hence the price cut and the look outside of China
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of where could we sell it?
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Well, the L380 is large.
19:40
It's 5.3 meters long.
19:42
It's two meters wide with a 3.2-meter wheelbase.
19:46
That's seven centimeters longer
19:49
than Mercedes-Benz V-Class.
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Get it as a six-seater, so two plus two plus two
19:55
and an optional fourth row.
19:57
This thing is so big.
19:59
The standard rear-wheel drive model
20:01
has a 100 kilowatt-hour battery.
20:03
Higher trims add bigger batteries
20:05
or dual-motor or wheel drive setups
20:08
and the plug-in hybrid version
20:09
has been spotted on Chinese roads,
20:11
sharing the same shape,
20:12
but adding features like different wheels,
20:14
different headlights, millimeter-wave radar,
20:17
and a big visible LiDAR sensor as well.
20:20
This setup probably combines,
20:22
you would think, the 1.5-liter engine
20:23
that they use in some of their vehicles
20:25
with two electric motors
20:27
and the plug-in hybrid version could be good
20:29
if you do a lot of motorway runs
20:31
and you're worried about charging
20:34
and things like that.
20:34
There wouldn't be, personally, 100 kilowatt-hour battery.
20:37
It's probably all you need.
20:39
Australia is next in the news.
20:40
They're considering a new nationwide road user charge
20:43
based on how far you drive.
20:45
That seems very fair to me.
20:47
Aiming to make sure that all road users,
20:49
including those that drive electric,
20:51
are funding road maintenance.
20:54
It seems road tolls, see?
20:55
People build a new road sometimes.
20:57
You get it a lot in mainland Europe.
20:59
Sometimes those roads are privately funded
21:01
or private capital comes in to fund a ring road.
21:04
An extension of bypass.
21:05
And there's a toll on it
21:07
because somebody had to build it
21:08
and it wasn't the state that did it.
21:10
And so in Australia,
21:11
they're looking at those that drive more
21:14
would end up paying more.
21:16
Right now, petrol and diesel vehicles
21:20
but electric vehicles pay nothing of any equivalent,
21:23
which is causing fuel excise revenue to fall
21:27
as people switch to clean cars.
21:29
At a round table in Canberra,
21:31
the Treasury said there was strong support
21:35
but whether it will apply to EVs
21:37
or all vehicles isn't settled.
21:38
Well, it should apply to all vehicles, shouldn't it?
21:41
But then again, you shouldn't get charged any other taxes.
21:43
It should just be a flat rate
21:44
because we shouldn't worry about
21:45
how we power our vehicles.
21:47
But if you are driving on the road
21:49
and maybe there's a weight thing as well.
21:51
So maybe there's categories of weight.
21:53
So obviously heavy vehicles can cause more damage
21:57
and it's not a simple subject to get right,
22:01
Victoria tried a road user charge in 2021,
22:04
asking battery electric vehicle owners
22:07
to pay almost three cents per kilometer,
22:10
but the High Court said that only the federal government
22:12
has the power to run schemes like that.
22:14
Meanwhile, New South Wales has been developing
22:16
its own plan with EVs at two and a half cents per kilometer
22:20
and a bit less for plug-in hybrids.
22:22
Now, federal and state leaders
22:23
are working on national options
22:25
with the government options paper
22:26
going to state treasurers.
22:28
Maybe early September,
22:30
ideas on the table include a rollout for trucking first
22:33
and then maybe a phase in after that.
22:37
Now, most people focus on fast chargers for EVs
22:41
and that's absolutely right
22:42
because when you're on the road,
22:43
maybe you've got to get somewhere quickly,
22:45
kids in the car, that kind of stuff.
22:47
You don't want a queue for a charger
22:48
and you want your EV to charge quickly
22:51
and I totally get it.
22:52
But as I remind people far too often on this show,
22:55
home slow AC charging is not only far more important
23:00
to talk about, it's far more important to focus on
23:03
to make sure that we're doing it in the right way,
23:06
that we're integrating with our home electricity,
23:09
we're maybe adding some solar and storage at home
23:11
if it's possible for you,
23:12
but also people that can't charge at home,
23:14
either apartment living or whatever,
23:17
that we have that conversation properly
23:20
so that everyone can go EV.
23:22
We're really lucky,
23:23
but we didn't have a driveway really
23:24
until we moved into this house.
23:27
We've lived a lot in a lot of urban areas,
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certainly when we lived in London,
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we parked outside our house,
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had a parking permit on the street,
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but it wasn't off road
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and so we need to have a good conversation
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about where our EVs are charged
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and nearly all of it is overnight when it's slow.
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The challenge though,
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for people that use their garages for storage
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rather than parking,
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means that your home might not be set up
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Now, some news coming out today suggesting
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that if you had a clear out of your garage,
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the number of homes that would support EV charging
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So this seems to be some American research
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The problem is that having the potential for home charging
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doesn't mean it's cheap or easy to set up.
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Many homes need electrical upgrades
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just for the outlets needed for level two charging.
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That can cost thousands.
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apartments and condos face more challenges,
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but what about somewhere obvious to charge your car?
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Well, it turns out that we're all using our garages
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to store our junk and leaving our cars outside.
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And so this suggests,
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have a good old clear out this weekend,
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make room for the car
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and it'll be easier to charge your electric car
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Okay, thanks for the reminder, mum.
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Now, let's finish up my garage as a mess
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and we don't store the car in the garage
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as you know, of course not.
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Let's finish off by talking about Nissan's new electric city car.
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It will be called the Wave launching in early 2027
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and it's very closely related to the new Renault Twingo,
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not the old one, but the new one that's coming back.
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Both cars will be built in Slovenia at the Renault plant there.
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Many expected the Pixel name to return,
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but Nissan went with Wave,
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previously used for a trim level of the little micro,
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but now it'll be a standalone nameplate on its own.
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Nissan is expanding its partnership with Renault.
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Like other recent models, the Wave and the Twingo
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will share platforms and technologies.
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The new Renault Twingo,
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which should come next spring, we think,
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and be well under 20 grand.
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If you look at the cars
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that are at the bottom end of the market here,
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Leap Motor T3, 14 grand.
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The Dacia Spring, 14 grand.
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And so that little Renault Twingo,
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unless it's super stylish,
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which the Renault 5 is, that's just over 20.
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So maybe this has got to fit
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somewhere around that sort of 15 to 20 grand price bracket.
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We think it'll be on the AMPR Ampere small platform
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and a little 63 kilowatt motor
26:04
from the Geely Corporation,
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little 30 kilowatt hour CATL battery.
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But on a small car, that is still fine.
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I've had two Renault Zoe's over the years.
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And they're not massively small,
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but you can go quite a long way on a small battery.
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Also mentioning the Dacia Spring,
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well, of course, Dacia is the cheap bit of Renault.
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And a cheaper Dacia version based on the same platform
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could also arrive as well.
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Nissan and Renault already make EVs together
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like the Renault 5 and the Nissan Micra,
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taking advantage of shared investments.
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The expanding market in the cheap end of EVs.
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It's, I mean, maybe it's not for you,
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but it's so exciting
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because it's just opening up possibilities
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for so many people that don't,
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they don't need a road tripper.
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They don't need an SUV.
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Then they haven't got kids,
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but they want reliable, affordable transport
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to get to their work or do what they need to do.
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And these cars tick so many boxes.
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Man, it's exciting.
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Thanks to our premium partners, Porsche,
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