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Welcome to the Porsche Club Insider, your one stop for all things Porsche and PCA.
Here's your host, Vu Gwin, and the Insider Crew.
Welcome everyone to episode 185.
We are just one day away from celebrating PCA's 70th anniversary.
I guess by the time we listen to this, we already have.
We already have.
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Let's go over what we're going to be talking about today.
We're going to be talking about our adventures at Treffenet C, how we prepare for the open
house.
What do we think of the new 911 Turbo S?
What does the in-production of the 718 Boxster and Cayman mean?
Will Porsche continue with the 963 in IMSA and WEC?
Porsches can now charge at Tesla charging stations.
And will Porsche sell another slant nose?
And many more things as we go through all of it.
Man, I'm just kind of recovering from the overload, the sensory overload that we experienced at
Treffenet C. So, Manny, how did it go for you?
You weren't on duty.
I was going to say, I was on vacation, even though I had a ton of people coming up to
ask me questions about the crew that explained to them that I'm not involved with the
crew.
As much as they do, but that I would ask Melanie, or sometimes I would text Melanie just to
ask her a question if I knew she was available to answer.
It was a lot of fun.
It was, I guess, to tell the listeners, we went to New England and Canada, which,
at first when it was announced, I thought, well, you know, we live in the Atlantic.
But it's just, it's very relaxing to be on the boat.
This is the one cruise I do a year.
So when people say I'm not a cruiser, I'm going, neither am I.
This is it.
I have no desire to do any other cruise, at least not yet.
But I do have a great time when we're on the cruise.
Yeah, we set off, thank you to Diana and the folks at Beeline.
We actually were fortunate enough to be able to be a part of a bus ride up to
New York. So that was cool.
We didn't have to drive ourselves to New York.
And the bus unloaded us at the port.
And then from New York, we went to Boston, Boston.
We went to Portland, Maine, then Portland, Maine to St.
John and then Fungi Bay.
Yeah, Fungi Bay.
And then from there, we went to Halifax and back.
And as Mani said, it's, you know, those of you that may have cruised before,
cruising with PCA is much different with 900 individuals, 900 PCA members,
900 out of the roughly 3,000 folks that are on board.
It still feels like it's our ship.
Oh, without a doubt.
Even though there's like 2,000 other people.
And shout out to the the the folks on the Princess cruise lines.
Like they, you know, the ports can be can be hit or miss
because it's it's ran by the ports and getting on to the ship.
Sometimes they're more efficient than others.
But once you're on the ship, like no doubt, like they really do customer
service, right? And that's what I love about the cruise experience.
And, you know, anything from taking care of your room with a smile
to the dining to the activities.
We had PCA specific seminars, games, dishes that are desserts.
There were Pirelli desserts.
So, yeah, it's it's very cool.
And, you know, the the the destinations that we had for this year
weren't necessarily exotic.
But I think people, most people came just because they knew we're all going to be together.
Yeah. And I think the fact that maybe the fact that they weren't super exotic
also meant that it was more relaxing in the sense there wasn't something
wasn't like you were going to Paris and you're like, I got all this stuff
I got to see right in six or seven hours.
So soon as we get the ground running, it's going to be rush, rush, rush.
You seem much more relaxed and enjoyable.
But I know PCA members being PCA members.
Many of them had an itinerary that they built themselves,
including they went to a baseball game in Boston.
That was impressive.
That's a yes.
There went how long ago she bought it.
She bought like several months ahead of time.
And I thought that was the greatest idea.
I wish I would have thought of that
because Fenway is hard to get tickets and they only seat, I think,
less than 40,000.
It's a small stadium.
But be able to say you saw the Red Sox play at Fenway is that's pretty awesome.
Yeah, we people got to see Fenway.
People did Faniel Hall.
They did the Freedom Trail walk.
They went to the North End.
Oh, we had the Lou and Lou Anne Gwynn tour guides.
The abbreviated tour.
Oh, baby, because people are saying, what did you guys see?
And I was like, I felt like it was more like, what did we eat?
Which is typically the tours that the Gwynn family takes.
Yeah, we let that tie in restaurant.
He took us to the Daily Catch.
If you're in Boston, you go to the North End,
you're going to hear about Mike's Pastry.
Like that's an institution.
But right across the street from Mike's Pastry is this tiny, tiny restaurant
called The Daily Catch.
And if you are lucky enough that there isn't a long line, which we were,
we were probably was five tables.
Yeah, five tables at most, one cook, one server.
They cook everything on a skillet.
And oh, my gosh, the food was just top notch.
And in fact, you spotted that there was no line.
Yeah, we were in that we were sat pretty quickly.
And yeah, and when we left the line that there was to get in,
we would have never found that out if you hadn't taken us there.
We would have it's so easy to walk right by that restaurant.
Yeah, there was so much place to eat, good place to eat.
And yeah, we took an Uber from the cruise terminal.
Well, I guess even back up before that northeast region came out.
Yes, that was that was a labor day, which was a very nice
of them and they brought, like, I think seven or eight cars.
Yep.
Then members came out and greeted all the PC Airs as they disembarked
from the ship and for those who never cruise,
it's not like you're pulling up to the port in your pickup truck
and you just open the doors and you get out.
That there's a lot of procedures that they have to do before they
start releasing people.
Plus, you got, like we said, three thousand people in the boat
and maybe twenty five hundred want to get off the boat.
Right. So the lines form and everything.
So we're still let out pretty, pretty quickly.
Cool. We got there so so early.
So for some people, I think they were just getting the breakfast.
But yet, northeast region came out with some cars to greet us
and set up a tent and it was pretty cool.
Very nice.
They got the traditional Dunkin Donuts breakfast, the Boston breakfast.
And the ports I talked about getting on the ship earlier about the ports
where it can be hit or miss.
It's the same thing when you get to the ports of these destinations
and the regions may have the best of intentions.
Of coming and bringing cars, bringing a tent,
but finding someone that allows you to do so at the port
is a tougher task than than most people even realize.
Thankfully, I will say that the northeast region had some troubles
reaching out to the port.
They found somebody, but then that person didn't commit.
And then they still, you know, kind of like, OK, let's just go
and see how it turns out.
Thankfully, because it was a holiday and the parking lot next to
where the ship was dock wasn't full, the port allowed them to set up.
So that was super nice.
And that was sort of a sort of a start to the to the regional
experience at Treffen at sea, because it's it's not often that we can
have a local region be a part of it.
And when we landed, our next one was in
and was it St. John that they came out?
I think before that,
did the cruise line let the people know that there would be a big contention of?
No, no, the cruise line didn't.
Actually, I, you know, I think I think the region reached out
to the cruise line to ask for help.
Well, I'm thinking about letting the other passengers know,
because when you first got on the boat,
you know, you can't go right to your room when you first get on the boat.
So most people go and get lunch because it's right around the time
we get in 10, 30, 11.
So it's right around lunchtime.
So Roxanne and I were heading up to the buffet on the 16th floor.
We got an elevator and as soon as we got in a couple of people asked us,
are you guys with the Porsche Group?
Oh, and I thought, oh, I wonder how they know that?
Because at that point, we don't have the landers or anything
to indicate that we're with Porsche.
And then throughout that day, we had a lot of people asking about
the Porsche Group.
So I think when they came out to see
Valsen and they see that all these forces lined up that reinforced that
that was a big contingent of Porsche owners on the boat.
Definitely, definitely.
Yeah.
So I think they kind of have to let the other
the other cruisers know that there's a big group on because I could.
I can imagine if you booked a cruise and almost half of your boat
was some on the magicians or, I don't know, whatever kind of group.
I think you kind of need to know, like, what if you what if it was a group
that you didn't drive with or something like what if what if it was like,
you know, it's like, oh, I'm going to be on a boat with a thousand magicians.
I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing.
I'm like a bunch of Pittsburgh Steelers.
You know, so anytime there's a large contingency of people,
you probably should let the other passengers know, but it all worked out well.
Then we get to St. John, right?
St. John and we toured through there.
We we we as staff, you know,
aren't able really to do any of the the longer or they call them excursions
because we're not sure if we're going to have to stay on the ship or got to get
back early. So we do our own little tours.
And we did a walking tour of a shopping area and found one church
and checked out that church.
And then our dear friend, Nathan Murr is like, hey, let's go check out
this other church, this steeple in the distance and say,
hey, let's go look at that church over there.
Yeah. And it sounded like a good idea.
Like, why not go check out another church?
However, we didn't realize we were going to Waterloo,
which Waterloo sounds pretty cool.
I didn't even know we had the area.
I just started seeing things that have to working in Baltimore City,
triggered my spidey senses that we were no longer in Mr.
Rogers neighborhood. Yes, it was a pretty rough area.
But thankfully nothing very polite though.
Very polite. They were very polite.
The consumers of non-prescription medication.
They walk on this?
A couple of people say, welcome to St. John's.
Yep. And one of them was on a scooter and was fighting amongst
themselves and was wrangling the scooter and said a couple of
choice colorful words towards the scooter.
Towards the scooter.
And then it was hilarious because they walked up to us
and apologized to us for using those words.
I don't see that happening in Baltimore.
That does not happen in Baltimore.
Anyways, we get back safely from Waterloo.
And of course, we're met by the Acadia region's first
first visit to the the ship and they probably had at least
I want to say two dozen cars.
And so that was that was really nice of them to come out.
But that wasn't the big one.
The the one that you see on the screen here,
Acadia show and shine.
That was actually in Halifax and in Halifax,
they came out with like 50 cars.
Oh, they're talking to ship because.
Oh, yeah.
Because we were they have to give it's in in Canada,
obviously, so you have to give more paperwork.
Again, when St. John's was out of the U.S.
But nonetheless, it takes longer for them to disembark.
Everyone was talking about the Porsche that you could see
right off the ship in the parking lot.
Yeah, I shout out to the Acadia region for taking care
of St. John, but really coming out Halifax,
Rick and the crew there.
Not only did they get a large contingency of cars,
you know, we had 356, 914, 928,
Cayennes, 911s, of course.
And all different makes all different models.
But they also offered to all of our folks that were
on a ship to be able to sign up for like half an hour
tours that you could get into a Porsche
with one of the local region members
and they're taking for a little ride.
And I think they had like 200 people sign up.
The huge line.
Huge line. Yeah.
And it was done ahead of time because somebody said,
we should get a line.
I'm like, if you can sign up ahead of time, odds are
you're not going to get a ride.
Everybody was they had a long wait list.
Oh, yeah.
And they and if they could fit extra people in, they did.
They did an incredible job to to accommodate great looking
cars, the atmosphere was fantastic.
They set up a tent and they were raising money for a good car.
And we saw Tom Thalman and his question.
Yes. And more miles to is already seven hundred
and some thousand miles.
The seven hundred and forty two or four road
island all the way up to.
Yeah. And we're going to see him tomorrow.
He's coming down.
He's coming down. Oh my God.
Yeah. My man is back in the back of the miles.
So, yeah, that we, you know, the theme nights
and such we had our our shout out to our PCA members
who engage our competitive but never do anything
halfway. They they had a 50 sock hop.
Yeah. And people went all out dressing up as 50s
and they had a 70s night.
And and the fact that they must have brought extra suitcases
for all this stuff that they it was amazing,
like the the pink ladies.
Yeah. I don't think they coordinated.
Right. But it happened to be all dressed
like the pink ladies. Right.
And the ladies with the all the pink poodle skirt.
Yeah. It was they came out on full force.
And the the best part was the the princess crew love this,
like to see their passengers be so engaged in partying.
Like we shut down every single event to the very end.
And our seminars was standing room.
Oh, I told Alwin that I said there will be people
standing up in the back.
But what was funny with the my wife ran into this.
She went to use a restroom, I think on the sock hop night
and she came back.
She said there was two ladies in the bathroom
and they were complaining because they saw everyone dressed
in 50s.
They thought it was some event that the boat had not.
They missed it on the boat and they were going to go see
what it was about when they got there.
They were told it was a private event.
Oh, America members.
And they said, you had another event
that we're not invited to and I said,
well, you got to join PCA.
Yeah. If you want to be that's the kind of benefits
of being on the boat with PCA is there was events
that were just open to PCA.
And that was one of them.
The seminars, like you said,
we had several seminars also open just to PCA members.
Yeah. The seminars went over very well.
We had Nathan Merz, Ray Schaefer, Alan Springer.
Tag Heuer.
Tag Heuer, Megan from Pirelli.
It was again, standing room only,
tons of engagement, lots of questions.
We did things together with the ship too.
It wasn't, everything was isolated.
We had the temptations, which we, they were good.
They were good.
I had a good time.
I did not realize they did so many songs that I knew
until we went to the, I think their last concert
of the trip.
But the newest temptation,
I really enjoyed the newest temptation.
The, Robbie Williams.
Melanie's husband, who with the help of Guinness beer.
There he is.
So their last song is my girl, their signature song.
But they make an audience involvement
and they asked for two ladies.
Of course they had no problem getting that.
And they asked for a gentleman.
And at first no one raised their hand.
Then I hear from the corner of the auditorium,
pick him.
And I look over his melody standing up pointing towards
Robbie and Robbie's waving his hand.
I thought, this will be interesting.
And Robbie was singing, I was watching
because he was sitting in front of me.
He was singing to, he knew the lyrics
to every single song.
So I think he was truly a fan and not just.
I do too, but that doesn't mean I want to get in front of it.
In front of a full auditorium.
And when he got up there, he got up there,
I think he hugged every single temptation.
That's when I realized Mr. Guinness
may be involved a little bit.
Oh, but he sang the verse very well.
And of course he ended it when he said,
my girl, he pointed to Melanie.
So kudos to him.
So after that he's riding the high of being on stage
with the temptations.
And he's telling everyone who wants to hear
that what he did, he got in the elevator
and asked people, they had been to the concert
that four people in the elevator had not.
Then he started singing and to give him a demonstration
of what they missed.
And the whole time Melanie's rolling her eyes.
And I'm like, you just created the monster.
You told him to get up on stage.
I'm glad he had a good time.
Cause he also, you know, when you're,
when you're married to a PCA staffer,
you often get volatile to do a lot.
And he also did quite a bit for us on the cruise.
So thank you to Robbie.
And I'm glad he enjoyed his time being the sixth temptation.
For that night, he was a, he was one of the temptations.
And let's not forget our premiere event on the cruise,
which is the die cast concor at sea in the piazza,
which is the main area at the middle of the ship
where we had close to a hundred die cast models
from simple ones where people just simply bought
their favorite bot and or brought their favorite one
to someone that created a diorama of a 914
coming down the hill with smoke and all that kind of stuff.
And then a garage was built.
There was someone that cast like a 993, someone,
the rainbow category had a rainbow of different color
porches like people went, again, you said this earlier,
it's pretty cool that PCA members are so engaged
and they bring it, especially when there's
a competition involved.
And with die cast concor at sea, we have first,
second and third for four different classes.
We had stock, motor sports, pre-996 and then rainbow.
So we had those four classes.
So you have first, second, third,
you had the captain's best of show pick,
which went to a diorama of a, I think it was
a 964 cab and super detailed garage.
And that winter got a free cruise.
Anywhere in, anywhere princess sales, they got a cruise.
That was impressive for, I didn't realize
that's the kind of prize you get.
Yeah, that's the prize you get.
The captain's pick.
Yeah.
And even more impressive is,
what do you think of the award ceremony
with confetti cannons, live music?
It actually rivaled our real concor.
It did.
We don't have confetti for the captain's ship.
Maybe we should.
Who knows what the problem is with picking up all the confetti.
Oh my God, it would be a complete...
Yeah, for us that would be tough.
After our die cast concor at sea celebration,
an army of princess people can pick it up.
And I knew you ran out of judges
when you asked me to judge rainbow.
You are my catch all in case something happens.
I was judging with Macon from Forelli.
But the class I put you in is the funny part.
And I told her, I said, oh, I'm judging with you.
She's like, oh, great.
I said, but you know, we're coloring,
we're doing a color,
it renders our color website.
And she goes, okay.
I said, and I'm color blind.
And she laughed.
I said, no, I'm serious.
I said, I am color blind.
I knew you would have fun with it.
It's pretty funny that Vue put me in charge
of the color category of which I took with her.
I said, is this car that's entered silver?
Yes.
And she said, yes it is.
And I said, that's a lot of confidence
to enter a silver car in the color category.
25th anniversary model, I think it was, yeah.
But that did not win.
There was other color cars that won.
But yeah, some of the judges were taking it very,
very seriously.
Judges were taking it seriously.
Competitors were taking it seriously.
And people that were watching were impressed at how.
I'm sure we had a 118 scale protest committee
that would have been filled.
We did.
Because we call it the Dicast Concord C.
Some people were ready to contest that the fact that
one of the cars wasn't actually Dicast.
I had someone ask me that.
And I said, I think it's just for fun.
Yeah, there's not a protest committee.
Somebody asked me, he said, this is a 118 scale.
I thought it was all 118.
No.
Remember like, I think it's just for fun.
Yeah.
Here's the other thing that we,
Alaska was a bucket list cruise last year.
But I did not get to see what I got to see on this cruise,
which was a lot of dolphins and a lot of whales,
not only see them, but they were close enough to the ship
that you could hear them blow out of their blow hole.
I think they were,
what kind of purpose were they were?
I don't know.
They weren't the giant, what is it, the whale?
They had the tail.
Yeah, they had a tail, but they're not.
I think of the one in the Smithsonian that looks like.
Oh yeah, no.
That's bigger than an attractive trailer.
Yeah.
There were 60 of them.
And they were, that's what the captain said, at least.
They were 60.
So cool.
And they were alongside the ship for about 45 minutes.
Yeah, it was awesome.
I remember Robbie Melody's husband telling me,
Jesus, I just paid 150 dollars a person
to go look at these whales tomorrow.
And I get to see it from my room.
And we're seeing it free right now just out of the ship.
Yeah.
Well, wow.
But my favorite story was,
we got a dinner with Nathan Merz and his wife
and a few other PCAers.
And we go to this great steakhouse they have there.
And there's another couple and friends of Nathan and Susie.
And so they introduce them.
They say, oh, but they're not Porsche people.
So we figured they're just friends of them.
Oh yeah, that's cool.
And we had a dinner with them.
We had a great time, you know,
asking questions about Australia and whatnot.
Then we decided to go to the lounge
because they're having a karaoke contest
sponsored by The Voice.
Show on television.
And so we all head over there and I sit next to the,
and I can't remember his name,
the husband from Australia.
And I asked him, I said,
so how long have you known Nathan and Susie?
I think he might be a neighbor or a long time friend.
And he goes, well, about 14 hours.
And I go, 14 hours.
He goes, we were having dinner last night
and the tables are so close together.
We were next to Nathan and Susie.
So we started talking
and then they invite us to this dinner.
And so we said, sure.
So here we are.
And he goes, and I kind of want to buy a portion now
because evidently when you wear this,
and he pointed to my line yard,
he goes, when you wear this line yard,
everyone's really friendly to you.
And if somebody came up and asked a question,
he goes, you know who they are?
I said, I have no idea,
but I know they're PCA members
because they're wearing the line yard in.
And he goes, I gotta get one of these line yards
because you get to know everyone on the ship.
I had something similar happen.
I went to karaoke night and sat next to a gentleman.
And he proceeded to tell me like,
oh, it's your anniversary on the cruise.
I'm like, are you with us?
He's like, no, no, I just happened to,
my wife happened to book this cruise
and I thought she booked it as a surprise
because I get on and I see all these Porsche people
and I'm a huge Porsche fan and I'm a Porsche owner.
I'm like, and you're not part of the club.
He's like, oh, I used to be.
Is that the one that's a 993?
No, he has a 9146.
Oh, that's your, he told me.
I had another gentleman come up
and he's like, I had a 993 that I love.
And I've been thinking about buying another one
and I come on this, I think this is a sign
because I see all these Porsche owners.
Yeah, so this 9146 owner, he's like, yeah,
I've owned it for, he's like the third owner
or something like that.
I think it's Sunflower Yellow 9146.
And he's like, yeah, isn't your headquarters
like somewhere in Maryland or Northern Virginia?
I'm like, yeah.
So he's like, didn't you go to Oklahoma for a parade?
I'm like, how do you know so much about PCA
and you're not a member?
He's like, well, I still follow you guys
but I'm just not an active member.
I'm like, you had better sign up.
And certainly I think his name is Tracy
out of Manhattan Beach, I believe it is.
So we should see him at Oodstock with his 9146
and you just, there's so many people on the cruise
and there are tie-ins and it's great
for us to be showcased not only in front
of our 900 members, but these other 2,000 people
seeing us have fun and they're wanting us to,
you know, wanting to be a part of it all.
Shout out also to Tag Heuer.
They brought on incredible inventory
for our members to see, but they also brought
in museum pieces from Tag Heuer.
And the Tag Heuer that I never, I mean, I knew about
but I never knew it existed in terms
of us being able to see it.
There were seven Tag Heuer monocles in the movie Le Mans.
Right?
Like show like ones they used in the movie.
They brought one of them on the ship
and recently one of the seven went to auction
and it auctioned like at $2 million.
Did they let you wear it?
They let me look at it, but I didn't wear it.
But I just thought that was cool
that they brought that on the boat for us to see
and all the members got to see it.
And they actually sold watches too, right?
Oh yeah, they sold, I probably can't say
how much they sold, but they-
Six figures though.
Oh yeah.
But this isn't hard to do with some of the watches.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And they brought unique timepieces that weren't,
it's like imagine if Porsche brought inventory of cars
that you couldn't get an allocation for,
they brought inventory of watches that you couldn't get
but you could get it on cruise.
So they weren't on sale or anything.
No, they're not on sale.
However, because they were being sold on the ship,
they were not tariffs were not applied
and also there was no tax.
International waters.
International waters.
I found somebody I said,
I don't think they were on sale
and I don't think they had like a special edition PCA.
No.
I said, I think it was just-
Just the ability to-
Because of the watches.
And plus you said on the seminar,
they had like a watchmaking clinic we went to
where God bless, I mean,
watching these guys put together some of these movements.
Yeah, members get had an opportunity
to put a timepiece together.
And I tell you what, if you don't have steady hands,
you do not have a career-
But if somebody say, give me a Monica,
build me a Monica
you don't want the one I-
But yeah, thank you to them for bringing all that.
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I don't see McCann, maybe that's in the other cars
part they listed, but I found the easiest repair.
In fact, I'm writing a Tech Tips article on the McCann.
So McCann, like other cars, has a pollen filter
or a cabin filter, the filter's the air
that goes inside your car.
And it should be replaced, they say, every 10,000 miles.
And I didn't know if mine had ever been replaced
so we bought mine with 7,000 miles.
So I said, you know what, it wasn't too expensive,
like 20 bucks for a filter.
It is so easy, you need zero tools.
Is it in your behind the glove box?
No, it's behind the glove box inside the car.
Yeah.
But the 987 box is pretty simple.
I don't know about the 986 the same way.
If you lift up the hood and it's under that panel.
Yeah, super easy.
And this one's equally easy.
It's just a young screw,
something like a tab.
Pulled out a cover, slide another cover
and then pull it out.
No tools required other than a flashlight
to help you see where we're working at.
And the whole thing took about 10 minutes
and you have a fresh cabin filter.
And I heard the dealer charges
if any of them are from two to $400 to do that.
To do that.
Wow.
So save yourself some money and do it yourself.
Yeah.
Did you get an OEM replacement or did you?
So here's the interesting thing.
When I pulled it out, it was really thick.
And I thought it was a Molly.
And I got a man.
Man, yeah.
That's a good quality.
But the man, you could tell was much thinner.
But as I started looking at another video
that they took out a factory piece
that looked like the man filter.
So I think someone might have stuck in.
There's another filter you can get
that's even stronger.
And I think that's the one that was in my car.
Ah, okay.
That's worth getting a quality one.
It's like a $30 filter.
But the money you save by doing it yourself
might be worth it.
All right, so as I said, there's a flurry of activity
behind us on if you'll hear a vacuum
as we're recording here, but we're cleaning up.
You know, it's like your parents coming to visit
once a year.
Yes.
We steam the carpets, we clean the windows.
Just a few minutes ago,
Manny and I were out front with the pressure washer
spraying down the front of the office
and just making sure everything is clear.
I do like the foam cannon.
That was a very, that was a lot better than last year.
My foam cannon?
Oh yeah, because we got everything, all the bugs.
We have these lights in front of our,
we've never been to our building.
We have lights that obviously are on at night time
and they attract bugs
and the bugs decide to die on our walls
and it stays on there all year round.
So every open house we have gotten into the heaven now
of cleaning out the bugs and making that.
Of course the other businesses around us must hate us
because that airs look terrible
and ours is nice and clean.
I thought about doing our one neighbor's one,
but I'm like, well, if I do his, then I gotta do that.
Then I gotta do the whole freaking row
and we don't have time for that.
So I just stopped.
I took some pictures of you came in.
I don't know, why don't we hire an outside firm
to do this?
To do what?
What you did the two in the morning.
Oh. Clean carpets.
You know what?
Because one, it's super expensive
and we do most of the work already
because we gotta clear everything out.
And we are, you know, I don't know.
I guess I'm cheap.
I don't know.
I just, I feel like I do a better job because I care
and people, he's talking about steam cleaning,
the steam cleaning the carpets, which we have.
Yeah, I took some pictures.
I gave the daemon that was all of our stuff up
on our desk that so when Boo came in that night,
he would have a clear carpet to the steam clean.
Yeah.
I don't know.
It's kind of like mowing the lawn too.
Sometimes it's just satisfying to see a dirty carpet
become a clean carpet.
How many times did you have to empty the water there?
Yeah, it was nasty.
Yeah, I emptied the tank at least 10 times.
So anyways, we are prepared
where we have about 300 people signed up,
easily a hundred cars
and some highlights of cars that will be coming.
We have a Carrera GT coming.
We're hoping to have a 918 come.
We have a Chip Rikerts 904 coming.
We have a R coming.
We have an ST coming.
And of course, I think we have a four liter,
a GT3 four liter.
And, and then, and then, and then.
997.
Yeah, 997.
And RS GT3 RS.
GT3 RS, yeah.
So lots of cool stuff, you know what?
And we have some VIPs coming through.
Ron Gordon, we know he's coming
because he's local,
but Aaron Ambrosino, our national president
is coming through.
Yeah, so for those of you that haven't met the top man
at the Toneball, he's going to be here.
And we've got a cake.
We've got DJ.
We've got a blowout on merchandise,
like stuff we don't want to put back into the office.
And hopefully we'll, obviously,
when people hear this, it already happened.
But the veterans know to get there early
to hit the racks
because they discount stuff.
And a lot of, sometimes, I think it's cool.
And I'm sure they said it doesn't sell as well.
And I thought it was really cool.
You have people that order regional stuff
and then decide they don't want it or whatever.
It comes back to us and we can't really resell it
unless we find someone that's exact size and whatnot.
So it kind of sits on a shelf or a rack
until the open house.
And so there was some cool stuff like Golden Gate,
Ohio Valley, all these different regions
that you show up there.
I am not allowed to come home
with any more logoed merchandise.
My wife's the opposite.
She has bags of stuff.
And I'm like, you know, I work here, right?
Oh my gosh.
Yeah, Lowan's like, well, I got you a bunch of stuff.
Well, we go out to dinner.
She's like, do you mind wearing something
without a logo tonight?
And that takes me a while to find something
that doesn't have a logo that isn't like 12 years old.
But anyways, it's gonna be a lot of fun.
We're looking forward to it.
And I'm sure we'll report back on how everything went.
All right, let's talk about the drop of the 911 Turbo S,
which I was fortunate enough to see in person
when I was in Monterey.
And you know, I think, as Manny said,
it's not a big secret,
but, and it's not the design of the car
that's really gonna make your jaw drop.
It's the performance numbers
what the new 911 Turbo S is capable of.
And as it stacks up to, let's say a GT2 RS
of not too long ago,
this thing packs a punch that is equally,
if not more potent.
Yeah, how much weight did they say that at Damon?
You remember?
Did you write the article?
Yes, 180 pounds over the previous generation 992 Turbo S.
So that includes the two electric turbos
instead of the one electric turbo in the GTS-T hybrid,
but same sort of system system.
It has the same, I think it's 1.9 kilowatt hour battery.
And it also has the, I believe it's 54 horsepower
I'm reading here.
If it's the same as the GTS-T hybrid
electric motor sandwich between the transmission and engine.
Yeah, 700 horsepower or 701.
Around the Nurburgring in seven minutes and three seconds.
Again, that's a complete comfort.
That is GT2.
Or a heavier car.
What was it, 10, 15, 20 seconds?
It was a 14 seconds faster or lower time
than the previous generation 992.1 Turbo S.
And we should keep in mind actually
that this car and it's still, what was the GT3 RS?
Seven minutes and 40 or low fifties.
So all that weight in the Turbo or the new Turbo S.
It's 3,829 pounds.
So quite heavy, but still quick.
Yeah, very capable.
It has, I saw the new bucket seats that are foldable.
The one thing that, this is gonna sound silly
because a car is monstrous in terms of power and capability.
But I think it's gonna trigger people
because it says hybrid.
It says hybrid on the side.
And you can't delete that.
You can't delete it.
And I feel like, remember the GMC's back in the day
they had hybrid on the side of it.
Like it didn't need to have it.
I don't know why it has to have it.
Like I get it.
It is a hybrid and it's all about performance
but it'd be nice if that could just be hybrid.
It says T hybrid.
T hybrid.
There is a reason why electric or hybrid is on the side.
And I think Porsche explained that in a tech tactics
they didn't have to put electric
on the side of the McConnell electric.
Just like the hybrid, perhaps they had a choice
and it's a safety thing.
If the car crashes and you have emergency responders
they have to know that there's a high voltage
battery in there.
Yeah.
It's not a law but it might be at some point.
I can understand why that is important
but there's other ways to signal that the car has that.
But if you don't really like it,
it's not like it's welded on there.
You can move it yourself.
So is it a vinyl?
Is it a vinyl decal?
I didn't touch it.
I don't know if it was.
I think it's vinyl.
Is it vinyl?
Oh, okay.
I think the one on the Cayenne is actually a badge.
All right, all right.
Yeah.
I'm still getting used to
and I know it's for efficiency
and they can change up the amount of volume of air
that goes through the front grills
but man, that's a big front grill.
Those panels that open and close.
I wonder if that's for people like us
who are enthusiasts and are used to the older style,
the horizontal.
Yeah.
And because I've heard other people
that aren't pushing through this just saw the car
and they said, oh, I love the front end.
Oh yeah, maybe.
Maybe it's like the BMWs.
Who's gotten used to that?
Has anyone?
I don't know that people have gotten used
to those big buck teeth.
I don't know.
Oops.
I'm sorry.
I didn't mean if you own one, no disrespect.
It's just, it's like I'm used to a 320i grill.
That's this big and the new one's like 10 feet tall.
Kidneys rather than buck teeth.
Those are some big kidneys.
I've never seen kidneys that big.
Kidneys on my 320i is like relatable.
And the question becomes, when will we see the GT2 RS?
And I would assume that it's,
so the all, it doesn't have to be all-wheel drive
because the system is powering the rear wheels.
So they couldn't easily, it's not like the electric motor
has anything to do with the drive system.
Right.
Well, I mean, it's, if it power,
if the all, it's an all-wheel drive system,
you know, with or without the electric motor.
So technically it's driving all four.
Because it is.
Because it's part of the flywheel.
Right.
It's basically the flywheel is what the electric motor is.
But it doesn't need to be four.
It doesn't need to be, that's for sure.
The same application can just be.
So this isn't like the,
the e-ray that does the front wheels, right?
I don't know enough,
but I'm pretty sure they're hub mounted sort of things
or axle mounted.
I think it does the front, yeah.
But yeah, the, in a rear-wheel drive car
like the GTS T hybrid, it's rear-wheel drive.
If you have a all-wheel drive system
like the Quera 4 GTS T hybrid,
that electric motor can power all four wheels.
It just matters.
Cause it's between the transmission and engine.
Yeah.
So here's, here's something that was,
we discussed on the cruise
when people were talking about that.
There's one person that was adamant about
save the manuals and manuals forever, blah, blah, blah.
Which again, I love a manual,
but I don't know if you were there.
You're probably there, Mandy.
And I was just like,
why do people focus on one being better than the other?
And like one should be the savior
and the other should not exist.
Like obviously PDK sell way better than manuals.
That's why dealers stock them.
If more people wanted manuals,
they would make more manuals.
But the reality is people want PDK and that's okay.
PDKs are great.
I don't think that you have to love a manual
and have to hate a PDK.
So with hybrid and the technology here,
like I would, if you haven't driven one,
reserve your comments until you drive it
because we drove the GTS.
And I can tell you, I don't care if it's hybrid,
if it's nuclear powered or whatever it is,
the performance is what it's all about.
Well, I wanted to, I was trying to get your attention
because the panelists were all saying that
if you keep buying a manuals, they'll keep making them.
Yeah.
The truth is, September, 2029, it becomes law
that cars have to have emergency,
automatic emergency braking.
And that's, and I'm not the one who just realized this.
I was told this by insiders at Porsche
that that will almost 100% indicate the end of the manual
because of the software and the complexity
to make a manual car be able to still be running
if the car breaks for you.
Oh.
Yeah.
I hadn't thought of that either
until he pointed it out to me.
So automatic braking.
You've had it, you've seen it with other cars.
Yeah, yeah, right.
We've rented it and stuff, you know,
it scares the heck out of you
because it gives a good peep, peep, peep, peep,
and it breaks for you.
But that's going to become standard
when all cars being made after September, 2029.
So like low-end Civic, which is a manual,
it also has automatic braking.
It co-exists.
You're saying it can't co-exist?
Doesn't have automatic braking?
Yeah, like when I roll up really fast in my driveway,
it goes, like it tells me to brake.
But does it actually hit the brakes?
Oh.
Or does it warn you that that's an anti-collision?
Oh, maybe it does.
But what I was told that software required
and probably maybe hardware for the car to keep,
automatic is pretty easy.
That it breaks and the car keeps running.
The manual, it's essentially, you know,
putting the clutch in for you, right?
Yeah.
Or somehow physically putting it in neutral.
Right.
And then if you need to hit the gas again,
there was a situation, what happens?
You know what, now that I think back,
maybe low-end's car just like warns me
that I should brake and it doesn't actually brake.
I haven't not listened to it, so maybe, yeah.
You remember that time in a rental car
that I was driving and I was about to make a passing maneuver,
but I was kind of close to the car in front.
I think it was in California.
Yeah.
And I hit the gas, I think, and the car brake for me.
I don't know if you remember that, but yeah, it's pretty.
But this is gonna make life really interesting
for drivers education.
Oh, yeah.
Because will the manufacturer make a defeat button
and take the liability?
Or will it not be something that you can override?
And then we're all gonna have to be like 10 cars.
And drivers dead, I used to joke that
I gotta be able to see the color of your eyes
if you're gonna get a pass signal.
Right.
That was in the instructor group, never.
Never.
But yeah, so anyways, I think we can wish
that manuals will be forever,
but I think the end is very near.
But we still have our cars.
And you have used cars?
Yes, we have our cars that we have.
And I mean, PDK is pretty darn engaging
if you want it to be.
It is.
It moves so quick that, and of course,
electric cars, there's no shifting anyhow.
The Taycan has two gears
and gets that a first gear pretty quick
and you're not having to shift at all.
It's kind of interesting that we're gonna live
through all this.
So the next one, I don't know if it's gloom and doom,
but the end of the production
of the Ice 718 Boxster and Cayman.
Whoo!
Man, that's the top one.
That's something that,
I don't think Porsche would have dreamed
that they would be hung out to drive like this.
So I guess to back up,
these cars aren't the best sellers for Porsche.
As romantic as we want to be with sports cars,
I remember being told that they sold more Cayenne Turbo GTs
than they did Boxsters or Caymans,
which just blew my mind
because that's one of the most expensive Cayennes
that they make, if not the most expensive.
And they were selling more of those than Boxsters.
That's what the market will bear.
So, and it's just not Porsche.
There's other manufacturers who,
while we all want to wish that they made,
they were a sports car company.
The fact is that they make just more than sports cars
and people weren't speaking with their wallet.
Now granted, they haven't made a lot of changes
to that platform because they knew it was coming to an end.
But, and the worst part is, if you think,
well, maybe I will go buy a 718
before they finish that window's closed.
Right.
Unless you can find one on the lot
that a dealer ordered and hasn't sold.
But do you find it interesting
that we get all this news now
that it's in the production for 718 Boxster and Cayman?
Yet, I feel like there hasn't been much news
on its replacement.
No, because the battery company went bankrupt
and I haven't heard any.
So you're basically losing two products to sell.
That's where you're hung up to try.
No replacement.
The whole idea was by now,
we would have had the Boxster Cayman EV,
would have probably been an awesome car.
And people would have said,
listen, this is the future.
Look at the performance numbers.
It's just like the Turbo S.
I'm sure it would have just smoked a base Cayman.
And so now all of that sports car demand
is gonna apply even more pressure
on what's left in inventory, which is 9-11s.
Yeah, which is already hard to get.
Which is already hard to get.
It's not like dealers are trying to sell those.
I'm trying to paint a picture
that we can somehow see the light
at the end of the tunnel.
But man, it's getting tougher and tougher.
It's getting tougher for Porsche.
It's for between China losing,
even though it's not a huge part of their sales,
still they're losing two cars.
I worry about this from a club standpoint,
because now every year they don't have this.
We have a gap where the used Porsche
is the entry-level Porsche for many people.
And now you're gonna have a gap
of these cars that won't be available.
It's kind of like when people are looking for
the 97.2s or the 997.2s
that was built during the housing crisis.
So they didn't sell as many
because people didn't have the money
and that's why they're so hard to find now.
Will this be the same case in 10 years
when people are looking for the last
of the Cayman boxters
and there's a gap of they won ice cars.
And they came and would say,
well, I'll buy the first gen EV Boxster
because that isn't out yet.
So hopefully we'll see something in 2027 maybe.
All right, well, I guess this is all
continuation of sort of the economic climate
and some decisions that are having
to be made at the PAG level.
The next one has to do with the future of the 963.
Man, we are just a bunch of great,
we started this podcast all happy in
but now it's getting kind of a tough discussion.
And the cost-cutting arena
Porsche has not confirmed at least
at the recording of this podcast
that they will continue with the 963 program
in IMSA or WEC.
A lot of the experts are saying
they probably will continue with IMSA.
WEC is questionable,
primarily because WEC has a different set of class rules.
So the 963 has to use,
so the 963 both when they run LMDH hybrid
is LMDH, I'm trying to see if I can get it right to the bottom.
So in IMSA, they have to pick
from four different chassis manufacturers
and they have to use the same hybrid system.
In WEC, the manufacturers can make their own hybrid system
and I think maybe chassis,
basically they're not competitive anymore.
Correct, Ferrari and Toyota make their own chassis
and the hybrid system, everything.
Kind of like the 919 was.
Yeah, exactly.
So Porsche was trying to make customer cars
and trying to get one thing to do everything
and they did well in IMSA
but they couldn't compete against Ferrari
and Toyota at least not compete as well as they should have
and they have not won Le Mans with this car.
And now they're saying that the rumor is
they may pull out of WEC and then take the,
hopefully the ticket from IMSA,
winning the IMSA championship and use that
because that guarantees you one car to run at Le Mans
and use that to run at Le Mans.
But you just don't say suddenly,
okay, we're going to join Ferrari
and build our own chassis and hybrid system
because that involves a whole other financial commitment
of which right now they may not have the funds.
Commit to that, which of course, the big picture
is aren't you glad they didn't get in the Formula One?
Yeah, right, right.
That would have been a ton of money
that at the time they had,
but now it's questionable with the whole China thing
and the sales not happening there anymore.
I'm hoping at least in the US they keep the 963
because the 963 is very competitive in IMSA.
Having won 24 Daytona two years in a row
and looking like they're going to win the championship
again, I would love to see that program continue.
Okay, on the positive side,
if you own a Taycan and a new Mucon
that now you can charge at Tesla charging stations.
Yeah, that's been something
that they've been working on for a while.
Yes, you're probably going to pay a lot more
than a Tesla owner, but in a pinch.
You can use it?
Sure, you can use it.
I've seen where some of the older Tesla charging stations,
you have to park your car like a jerk,
like sideways and block other chargers
to be able to go to reach.
The newer charging stations are set up for non-Teslas
and you can just pull into the parking spot.
I'm sure that's all going to be rectified
because that's all revenue for Tesla.
Now they have more customers using their network
and probably it won't make the other Tesla owners happy
because now they got to share.
But when it was initially announced,
Tesla stock went up because once again,
that's guaranteed revenue from all different sources.
Yep.
So at Monterey, we did a little piece together
with Gunther Works on the F26,
which was an homage to a slant nose.
Which he said, don't call it a slant nose.
Which we are not calling it a slant nose.
Which was probably the reason why was
working on their own.
Here we are.
Look at that.
A slant nose spied.
I think it looks pretty cool.
I don't know about the headlights,
but you can never trust spy photos.
Not because they're doctored or anything.
It's because Porsche will put some stuff.
They have no intention of using just to disguise the car.
A lot of people freak out and have panic attacks
because they think that's the final product.
It looks like the Rensport one that they had.
The one that was not street legal.
The GT2, what was it called?
What was that GT2?
It was the 935.
Well, there was the 935.
935 Rensport.
Rensport Edition, yeah.
That's what kind of reminds me of it.
A Rensport R or something like that.
Pretty sure they just called it the 935.
And then there's the GT3R Rensport Edition.
I thought it was a, well, you know,
I'll just back up.
Rensport 6 had the 935.
Yep.
Then the Rensport 7 had the GT3R Rensport.
Yep, exactly.
That's the one you're thinking of.
I'm thinking of the earlier one, the 935.
That's the 935.
I'm thinking this wing reminds me of the GT3R.
Yeah.
Look at this.
Yeah, that's the GT3R with that wing.
That's the one that Grant was telling about
how they designed it.
And the GT2RS ClubSport 25 years edition,
which is the Monti 25 years.
That's what this reminds me of.
Yeah.
This is my car.
Yeah, yeah.
So, I mean, there've been rumors
about this car for a while,
and I wonder if it would become a package
for someone to be able to order for a street car.
That'd be kind of cool.
All you gotta do is run a limited amount
and it'll sell out before the even, yeah.
Fluck bow.
Yeah, it'll be an instant hit for the people
who want to relive the 80s
and have the means to do so.
Yeah.
Yeah, it'd be pretty cool to do it.
Yeah.
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Insider news,
I haven't honestly told anyone outside
of those that have been on the cruise,
but September 19th of 2026
will be the next trefina at sea,
and that cruise will be heading out from Vancouver,
visiting San Francisco, Santa Barbara and LA,
and sort of the theme of this particular cruise
is gonna be a wine cruise.
So all of you wine enthusiasts,
we're going to have, of course,
our normal Porsche content,
but we're gonna have some wine partners on board.
And again, it's just gonna be one of those things
where you're not gonna wanna miss out
a bunch of PCA friends hanging out together.
And this ship I was looking at a review of it
at the dedicated wine bar.
There you go.
So they obviously did that
and knowing that they would be doing this kind of tours.
Exactly, exactly.
Video that we recently dropped,
Damon did an awesome job editing it.
I think you and I had a lot of fun doing it
because it came out in the edits.
Yeah, it was the auction video
that we try and do every time we visit Monterey
during Monterey Car Week or Amelia Island
during their car week.
So this one was at Monterey
and we visited Gooding Christie's
followed by RM Sotheby's and then Broad Arrow Auctions.
So I think it's the first time we've gone to all three
and captured it on camera.
Yep.
Or three different auction houses
captured on camera at Monterey.
We've done that at Amelia,
but it was kind of cool to do that
in Monterey this time.
Yeah, there was no shortage of cars
that were pretty incredible.
And we literally have one day to do this.
Yeah.
Though we start pretty early
because the next day we're setting up for works.
So I wish we had time to sit at every car
and have a long discussion about the condition,
what it's gonna sell for and whatnot,
but that's just not.
Well, you guys did mention
the presale estimates for every car
and we listed the price that they sold.
If they sold.
If they sold.
There were a handful that didn't sell at the auction,
one of which we know is still for sale
at time of recording.
So pretty cool.
If you wanna see the market,
there were some surprises in there.
I think it kind of paints the picture
through the prices of what we're living through right now.
Did we cover that RS that was repaired?
We did.
Yes, we did.
Yeah.
That was a bargain.
Yeah, it was.
I don't know if I should mention it,
but I'm going to anyway,
but I drove, I'm pretty sure that RS,
I didn't think of it until weeks later.
I know the guy who owned that
and I know what happened to it.
You say you drove it or you just drove it?
No, no, no, I saw it in his garage,
but I drove with that person and another friend who,
and I met the guy who owned that.
If it is the same person,
but on my way to Birmingham,
I drove with him and one other friend on some back roads
and he had some other car.
I remember seeing that.
So this was.
And two or three weeks later,
I remember getting a text from my friend
that, oh, remember that RS that,
you know, we looked at in his garage?
Yeah.
Oh, so you saw it before.
I saw it about two or three weeks before it happened.
I know you sent us a picture of it and I thought.
He had just got the car
and Bob Miller had found it for him.
It's small world.
Yeah, here it is.
Watch the video for the full details
for all the other ones,
but the RS that he's talking about
was really below market.
And the reason being is there was
some repair work that was done
and it was done by Porsche Classic.
So, you know, it was a quality restoration job,
but it had a branded title because of the incident.
But man, if you want to get into a nine, six, four RS
for I would say.
It was like SMS 100 and some.
It was 150 to one or 175 to 200.
It actually went for 225.
And I got to say,
when you show us the pictures of it wrecked,
the first thing you do is you look at the seams.
That's right.
That tells a lot.
And the seams are pretty straight.
Yeah.
Which told me that whatever you hit,
if you had a guardrail or something,
he had it so straight on.
He was hit.
Oh, he was hit.
Yeah.
And it was low speed.
I don't remember all the specifics.
But it seemed like it was the rear quarter panel
took most of the product of it
because the wheel didn't even look like this.
But it didn't push anything.
Everything was, at least from the picture,
you could see all the look like the gaps were fine.
The glass didn't break.
So you knew from the bent the car
that much of the glass didn't break.
It was low speed.
If this is indeed the same car,
it was a low speed thing.
Well, congratulations to whoever bought it
because you got an RS for, I think.
So when I would have bought if I had the money?
Yeah.
Yeah.
They got my attention.
Are they coming down in price?
And I didn't read the whole thing.
It was Ray Shaffer came up and told me about it.
I'm like, I was wondering why it seems to be really
below market value.
Exactly, exactly.
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About this episode
PCA's 70th anniversary celebrations kick off with a unique cruise experience for Porsche enthusiasts. The hosts share their adventures from Treffen at Sea, discussing the camaraderie among PCA members aboard the cruise ship, various activities, and exclusive seminars. They delve into the latest Porsche models, including the new 911 Turbo S and the future of the 718 Boxster and Cayman. The episode also touches on the challenges facing Porsche's racing programs and the exciting news about charging at Tesla stations, all while maintaining a light-hearted and engaging tone.
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On this episode, we report back on the annual PCA Treffen at Sea cruise. This year, over 900 PCA members spent a week on the Enchanted Princess and visited four ports. Each one had a PCA region with their Porsches, ready to welcome members as they disembarked. Plus, we talk about how we prepare the PCA office for its annual open house that attracts over 300 members. We also discuss the new 911 Turbo S, whether manual transmissions will continue, will the 963 continue to be a factory effort in 2026 and much more. It’s a jam packed episode, don’t miss it.
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