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Welcome to the Porsche Club Insider, your one stop for all things Porsche and PCA.
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Here's your host, Vu Gwin, and the Insider Crew.
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Welcome everyone to episode 185.
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We are just one day away from celebrating PCA's 70th anniversary.
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I guess by the time we listen to this, we already have.
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And there's a flurry of things going on in the office as we get ready, and we'll talk
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about that in a minute.
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Let's go over what we're going to be talking about today.
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We're going to be talking about our adventures at Treffenet C, how we prepare for the open
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What do we think of the new 911 Turbo S?
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What does the in-production of the 718 Boxster and Cayman mean?
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Will Porsche continue with the 963 in IMSA and WEC?
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Porsches can now charge at Tesla charging stations.
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And will Porsche sell another slant nose?
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And many more things as we go through all of it.
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Man, I'm just kind of recovering from the overload, the sensory overload that we experienced at
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Treffenet C. So, Manny, how did it go for you?
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You weren't on duty.
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I was going to say, I was on vacation, even though I had a ton of people coming up to
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ask me questions about the crew that explained to them that I'm not involved with the
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As much as they do, but that I would ask Melanie, or sometimes I would text Melanie just to
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ask her a question if I knew she was available to answer.
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It was a lot of fun.
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It was, I guess, to tell the listeners, we went to New England and Canada, which,
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at first when it was announced, I thought, well, you know, we live in the Atlantic.
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But it's just, it's very relaxing to be on the boat.
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This is the one cruise I do a year.
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So when people say I'm not a cruiser, I'm going, neither am I.
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I have no desire to do any other cruise, at least not yet.
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But I do have a great time when we're on the cruise.
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Yeah, we set off, thank you to Diana and the folks at Beeline.
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We actually were fortunate enough to be able to be a part of a bus ride up to
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New York. So that was cool.
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We didn't have to drive ourselves to New York.
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And the bus unloaded us at the port.
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And then from New York, we went to Boston, Boston.
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We went to Portland, Maine, then Portland, Maine to St.
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John and then Fungi Bay.
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And then from there, we went to Halifax and back.
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And as Mani said, it's, you know, those of you that may have cruised before,
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cruising with PCA is much different with 900 individuals, 900 PCA members,
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900 out of the roughly 3,000 folks that are on board.
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It still feels like it's our ship.
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Oh, without a doubt.
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Even though there's like 2,000 other people.
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And shout out to the the the folks on the Princess cruise lines.
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Like they, you know, the ports can be can be hit or miss
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because it's it's ran by the ports and getting on to the ship.
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Sometimes they're more efficient than others.
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But once you're on the ship, like no doubt, like they really do customer
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service, right? And that's what I love about the cruise experience.
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And, you know, anything from taking care of your room with a smile
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to the dining to the activities.
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We had PCA specific seminars, games, dishes that are desserts.
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There were Pirelli desserts.
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So, yeah, it's it's very cool.
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And, you know, the the the destinations that we had for this year
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weren't necessarily exotic.
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But I think people, most people came just because they knew we're all going to be together.
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Yeah. And I think the fact that maybe the fact that they weren't super exotic
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also meant that it was more relaxing in the sense there wasn't something
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wasn't like you were going to Paris and you're like, I got all this stuff
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I got to see right in six or seven hours.
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So soon as we get the ground running, it's going to be rush, rush, rush.
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You seem much more relaxed and enjoyable.
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But I know PCA members being PCA members.
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Many of them had an itinerary that they built themselves,
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including they went to a baseball game in Boston.
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That was impressive.
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There went how long ago she bought it.
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She bought like several months ahead of time.
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And I thought that was the greatest idea.
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I wish I would have thought of that
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because Fenway is hard to get tickets and they only seat, I think,
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It's a small stadium.
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But be able to say you saw the Red Sox play at Fenway is that's pretty awesome.
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Yeah, we people got to see Fenway.
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People did Faniel Hall.
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They did the Freedom Trail walk.
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They went to the North End.
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Oh, we had the Lou and Lou Anne Gwynn tour guides.
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The abbreviated tour.
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Oh, baby, because people are saying, what did you guys see?
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And I was like, I felt like it was more like, what did we eat?
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Which is typically the tours that the Gwynn family takes.
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Yeah, we let that tie in restaurant.
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He took us to the Daily Catch.
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If you're in Boston, you go to the North End,
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you're going to hear about Mike's Pastry.
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Like that's an institution.
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But right across the street from Mike's Pastry is this tiny, tiny restaurant
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called The Daily Catch.
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And if you are lucky enough that there isn't a long line, which we were,
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we were probably was five tables.
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Yeah, five tables at most, one cook, one server.
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They cook everything on a skillet.
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And oh, my gosh, the food was just top notch.
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And in fact, you spotted that there was no line.
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Yeah, we were in that we were sat pretty quickly.
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And yeah, and when we left the line that there was to get in,
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we would have never found that out if you hadn't taken us there.
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We would have it's so easy to walk right by that restaurant.
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Yeah, there was so much place to eat, good place to eat.
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And yeah, we took an Uber from the cruise terminal.
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Well, I guess even back up before that northeast region came out.
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Yes, that was that was a labor day, which was a very nice
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of them and they brought, like, I think seven or eight cars.
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Then members came out and greeted all the PC Airs as they disembarked
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from the ship and for those who never cruise,
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it's not like you're pulling up to the port in your pickup truck
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and you just open the doors and you get out.
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That there's a lot of procedures that they have to do before they
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start releasing people.
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Plus, you got, like we said, three thousand people in the boat
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and maybe twenty five hundred want to get off the boat.
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Right. So the lines form and everything.
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So we're still let out pretty, pretty quickly.
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Cool. We got there so so early.
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So for some people, I think they were just getting the breakfast.
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But yet, northeast region came out with some cars to greet us
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and set up a tent and it was pretty cool.
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They got the traditional Dunkin Donuts breakfast, the Boston breakfast.
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And the ports I talked about getting on the ship earlier about the ports
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where it can be hit or miss.
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It's the same thing when you get to the ports of these destinations
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and the regions may have the best of intentions.
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Of coming and bringing cars, bringing a tent,
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but finding someone that allows you to do so at the port
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is a tougher task than than most people even realize.
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Thankfully, I will say that the northeast region had some troubles
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reaching out to the port.
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They found somebody, but then that person didn't commit.
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And then they still, you know, kind of like, OK, let's just go
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and see how it turns out.
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Thankfully, because it was a holiday and the parking lot next to
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where the ship was dock wasn't full, the port allowed them to set up.
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So that was super nice.
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And that was sort of a sort of a start to the to the regional
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experience at Treffen at sea, because it's it's not often that we can
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have a local region be a part of it.
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And when we landed, our next one was in
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and was it St. John that they came out?
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I think before that,
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did the cruise line let the people know that there would be a big contention of?
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No, no, the cruise line didn't.
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Actually, I, you know, I think I think the region reached out
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to the cruise line to ask for help.
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Well, I'm thinking about letting the other passengers know,
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because when you first got on the boat,
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you know, you can't go right to your room when you first get on the boat.
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So most people go and get lunch because it's right around the time
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we get in 10, 30, 11.
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So it's right around lunchtime.
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So Roxanne and I were heading up to the buffet on the 16th floor.
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We got an elevator and as soon as we got in a couple of people asked us,
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are you guys with the Porsche Group?
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Oh, and I thought, oh, I wonder how they know that?
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Because at that point, we don't have the landers or anything
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to indicate that we're with Porsche.
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And then throughout that day, we had a lot of people asking about
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So I think when they came out to see
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Valsen and they see that all these forces lined up that reinforced that
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that was a big contingent of Porsche owners on the boat.
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Definitely, definitely.
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So I think they kind of have to let the other
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the other cruisers know that there's a big group on because I could.
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I can imagine if you booked a cruise and almost half of your boat
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was some on the magicians or, I don't know, whatever kind of group.
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I think you kind of need to know, like, what if you what if it was a group
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that you didn't drive with or something like what if what if it was like,
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you know, it's like, oh, I'm going to be on a boat with a thousand magicians.
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I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing.
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I'm like a bunch of Pittsburgh Steelers.
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You know, so anytime there's a large contingency of people,
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you probably should let the other passengers know, but it all worked out well.
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Then we get to St. John, right?
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St. John and we toured through there.
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We we we as staff, you know,
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aren't able really to do any of the the longer or they call them excursions
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because we're not sure if we're going to have to stay on the ship or got to get
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back early. So we do our own little tours.
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And we did a walking tour of a shopping area and found one church
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and checked out that church.
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And then our dear friend, Nathan Murr is like, hey, let's go check out
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this other church, this steeple in the distance and say,
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hey, let's go look at that church over there.
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Yeah. And it sounded like a good idea.
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Like, why not go check out another church?
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However, we didn't realize we were going to Waterloo,
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which Waterloo sounds pretty cool.
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I didn't even know we had the area.
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I just started seeing things that have to working in Baltimore City,
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triggered my spidey senses that we were no longer in Mr.
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Rogers neighborhood. Yes, it was a pretty rough area.
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But thankfully nothing very polite though.
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Very polite. They were very polite.
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The consumers of non-prescription medication.
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A couple of people say, welcome to St. John's.
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Yep. And one of them was on a scooter and was fighting amongst
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themselves and was wrangling the scooter and said a couple of
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choice colorful words towards the scooter.
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Towards the scooter.
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And then it was hilarious because they walked up to us
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and apologized to us for using those words.
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I don't see that happening in Baltimore.
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That does not happen in Baltimore.
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Anyways, we get back safely from Waterloo.
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And of course, we're met by the Acadia region's first
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first visit to the the ship and they probably had at least
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I want to say two dozen cars.
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And so that was that was really nice of them to come out.
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But that wasn't the big one.
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The the one that you see on the screen here,
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Acadia show and shine.
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That was actually in Halifax and in Halifax,
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they came out with like 50 cars.
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Oh, they're talking to ship because.
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Because we were they have to give it's in in Canada,
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obviously, so you have to give more paperwork.
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Again, when St. John's was out of the U.S.
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But nonetheless, it takes longer for them to disembark.
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Everyone was talking about the Porsche that you could see
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right off the ship in the parking lot.
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Yeah, I shout out to the Acadia region for taking care
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of St. John, but really coming out Halifax,
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Rick and the crew there.
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Not only did they get a large contingency of cars,
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you know, we had 356, 914, 928,
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Cayennes, 911s, of course.
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And all different makes all different models.
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But they also offered to all of our folks that were
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on a ship to be able to sign up for like half an hour
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tours that you could get into a Porsche
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with one of the local region members
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and they're taking for a little ride.
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And I think they had like 200 people sign up.
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And it was done ahead of time because somebody said,
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we should get a line.
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I'm like, if you can sign up ahead of time, odds are
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you're not going to get a ride.
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Everybody was they had a long wait list.
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And they and if they could fit extra people in, they did.
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They did an incredible job to to accommodate great looking
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cars, the atmosphere was fantastic.
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They set up a tent and they were raising money for a good car.
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And we saw Tom Thalman and his question.
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Yes. And more miles to is already seven hundred
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and some thousand miles.
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The seven hundred and forty two or four road
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island all the way up to.
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Yeah. And we're going to see him tomorrow.
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He's coming down. Oh my God.
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Yeah. My man is back in the back of the miles.
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So, yeah, that we, you know, the theme nights
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and such we had our our shout out to our PCA members
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who engage our competitive but never do anything
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halfway. They they had a 50 sock hop.
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Yeah. And people went all out dressing up as 50s
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and they had a 70s night.
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And and the fact that they must have brought extra suitcases
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for all this stuff that they it was amazing,
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like the the pink ladies.
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Yeah. I don't think they coordinated.
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Right. But it happened to be all dressed
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like the pink ladies. Right.
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And the ladies with the all the pink poodle skirt.
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Yeah. It was they came out on full force.
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And the the best part was the the princess crew love this,
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like to see their passengers be so engaged in partying.
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Like we shut down every single event to the very end.
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And our seminars was standing room.
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Oh, I told Alwin that I said there will be people
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standing up in the back.
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But what was funny with the my wife ran into this.
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She went to use a restroom, I think on the sock hop night
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She said there was two ladies in the bathroom
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and they were complaining because they saw everyone dressed
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They thought it was some event that the boat had not.
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They missed it on the boat and they were going to go see
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what it was about when they got there.
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They were told it was a private event.
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Oh, America members.
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And they said, you had another event
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that we're not invited to and I said,
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well, you got to join PCA.
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Yeah. If you want to be that's the kind of benefits
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of being on the boat with PCA is there was events
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that were just open to PCA.
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And that was one of them.
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The seminars, like you said,
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we had several seminars also open just to PCA members.
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Yeah. The seminars went over very well.
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We had Nathan Merz, Ray Schaefer, Alan Springer.
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Tag Heuer, Megan from Pirelli.
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It was again, standing room only,
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tons of engagement, lots of questions.
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We did things together with the ship too.
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It wasn't, everything was isolated.
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We had the temptations, which we, they were good.
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I did not realize they did so many songs that I knew
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until we went to the, I think their last concert
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But the newest temptation,
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I really enjoyed the newest temptation.
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The, Robbie Williams.
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Melanie's husband, who with the help of Guinness beer.
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So their last song is my girl, their signature song.
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But they make an audience involvement
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and they asked for two ladies.
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Of course they had no problem getting that.
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And they asked for a gentleman.
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And at first no one raised their hand.
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Then I hear from the corner of the auditorium,
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And I look over his melody standing up pointing towards
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Robbie and Robbie's waving his hand.
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I thought, this will be interesting.
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And Robbie was singing, I was watching
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because he was sitting in front of me.
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He was singing to, he knew the lyrics
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to every single song.
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So I think he was truly a fan and not just.
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I do too, but that doesn't mean I want to get in front of it.
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In front of a full auditorium.
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And when he got up there, he got up there,
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I think he hugged every single temptation.
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That's when I realized Mr. Guinness
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may be involved a little bit.
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Oh, but he sang the verse very well.
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And of course he ended it when he said,
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my girl, he pointed to Melanie.
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So after that he's riding the high of being on stage
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with the temptations.
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And he's telling everyone who wants to hear
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that what he did, he got in the elevator
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and asked people, they had been to the concert
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that four people in the elevator had not.
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Then he started singing and to give him a demonstration
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of what they missed.
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And the whole time Melanie's rolling her eyes.
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And I'm like, you just created the monster.
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You told him to get up on stage.
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I'm glad he had a good time.
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Cause he also, you know, when you're,
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when you're married to a PCA staffer,
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you often get volatile to do a lot.
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And he also did quite a bit for us on the cruise.
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So thank you to Robbie.
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And I'm glad he enjoyed his time being the sixth temptation.
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For that night, he was a, he was one of the temptations.
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And let's not forget our premiere event on the cruise,
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which is the die cast concor at sea in the piazza,
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which is the main area at the middle of the ship
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where we had close to a hundred die cast models
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from simple ones where people just simply bought
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their favorite bot and or brought their favorite one
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to someone that created a diorama of a 914
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coming down the hill with smoke and all that kind of stuff.
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And then a garage was built.
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There was someone that cast like a 993, someone,
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the rainbow category had a rainbow of different color
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porches like people went, again, you said this earlier,
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it's pretty cool that PCA members are so engaged
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and they bring it, especially when there's
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a competition involved.
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And with die cast concor at sea, we have first,
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second and third for four different classes.
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We had stock, motor sports, pre-996 and then rainbow.
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So we had those four classes.
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So you have first, second, third,
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you had the captain's best of show pick,
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which went to a diorama of a, I think it was
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a 964 cab and super detailed garage.
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And that winter got a free cruise.
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Anywhere in, anywhere princess sales, they got a cruise.
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That was impressive for, I didn't realize
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that's the kind of prize you get.
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Yeah, that's the prize you get.
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The captain's pick.
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And even more impressive is,
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what do you think of the award ceremony
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with confetti cannons, live music?
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It actually rivaled our real concor.
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We don't have confetti for the captain's ship.
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Who knows what the problem is with picking up all the confetti.
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Oh my God, it would be a complete...
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Yeah, for us that would be tough.
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After our die cast concor at sea celebration,
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an army of princess people can pick it up.
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And I knew you ran out of judges
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when you asked me to judge rainbow.
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You are my catch all in case something happens.
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I was judging with Macon from Forelli.
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But the class I put you in is the funny part.
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And I told her, I said, oh, I'm judging with you.
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She's like, oh, great.
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I said, but you know, we're coloring,
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we're doing a color,
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it renders our color website.
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And she goes, okay.
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I said, and I'm color blind.
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I said, no, I'm serious.
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I said, I am color blind.
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I knew you would have fun with it.
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It's pretty funny that Vue put me in charge
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of the color category of which I took with her.
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I said, is this car that's entered silver?
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And she said, yes it is.
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And I said, that's a lot of confidence
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to enter a silver car in the color category.
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25th anniversary model, I think it was, yeah.
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But that did not win.
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There was other color cars that won.
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But yeah, some of the judges were taking it very,
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Judges were taking it seriously.
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Competitors were taking it seriously.
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And people that were watching were impressed at how.
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I'm sure we had a 118 scale protest committee
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that would have been filled.
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Because we call it the Dicast Concord C.
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Some people were ready to contest that the fact that
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one of the cars wasn't actually Dicast.
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I had someone ask me that.
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And I said, I think it's just for fun.
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Yeah, there's not a protest committee.
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Somebody asked me, he said, this is a 118 scale.
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I thought it was all 118.
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Remember like, I think it's just for fun.
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Here's the other thing that we,
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Alaska was a bucket list cruise last year.
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But I did not get to see what I got to see on this cruise,
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which was a lot of dolphins and a lot of whales,
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not only see them, but they were close enough to the ship
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that you could hear them blow out of their blow hole.
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what kind of purpose were they were?
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They weren't the giant, what is it, the whale?
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Yeah, they had a tail, but they're not.
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I think of the one in the Smithsonian that looks like.
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That's bigger than an attractive trailer.
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There were 60 of them.
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And they were, that's what the captain said, at least.
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And they were alongside the ship for about 45 minutes.
22:28
Yeah, it was awesome.
22:29
I remember Robbie Melody's husband telling me,
22:32
Jesus, I just paid 150 dollars a person
22:35
to go look at these whales tomorrow.
22:37
And I get to see it from my room.
22:40
And we're seeing it free right now just out of the ship.
22:44
But my favorite story was,
22:46
we got a dinner with Nathan Merz and his wife
22:48
and a few other PCAers.
22:50
And we go to this great steakhouse they have there.
22:54
And there's another couple and friends of Nathan and Susie.
22:59
And so they introduce them.
23:00
They say, oh, but they're not Porsche people.
23:02
So we figured they're just friends of them.
23:04
Oh yeah, that's cool.
23:05
And we had a dinner with them.
23:06
We had a great time, you know,
23:07
asking questions about Australia and whatnot.
23:10
Then we decided to go to the lounge
23:15
because they're having a karaoke contest
23:18
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23:22
And so we all head over there and I sit next to the,
23:25
and I can't remember his name,
23:26
the husband from Australia.
23:28
And I asked him, I said,
23:29
so how long have you known Nathan and Susie?
23:32
I think he might be a neighbor or a long time friend.
23:34
And he goes, well, about 14 hours.
23:36
And I go, 14 hours.
23:39
He goes, we were having dinner last night
23:40
and the tables are so close together.
23:42
We were next to Nathan and Susie.
23:44
So we started talking
23:45
and then they invite us to this dinner.
23:47
And so we said, sure.
23:49
And he goes, and I kind of want to buy a portion now
23:51
because evidently when you wear this,
23:54
and he pointed to my line yard,
23:55
he goes, when you wear this line yard,
23:56
everyone's really friendly to you.
23:58
And if somebody came up and asked a question,
24:00
he goes, you know who they are?
24:01
I said, I have no idea,
24:02
but I know they're PCA members
24:04
because they're wearing the line yard in.
24:06
And he goes, I gotta get one of these line yards
24:08
because you get to know everyone on the ship.
24:10
I had something similar happen.
24:11
I went to karaoke night and sat next to a gentleman.
24:17
And he proceeded to tell me like,
24:20
oh, it's your anniversary on the cruise.
24:22
I'm like, are you with us?
24:23
He's like, no, no, I just happened to,
24:25
my wife happened to book this cruise
24:27
and I thought she booked it as a surprise
24:29
because I get on and I see all these Porsche people
24:30
and I'm a huge Porsche fan and I'm a Porsche owner.
24:33
I'm like, and you're not part of the club.
24:34
He's like, oh, I used to be.
24:36
Is that the one that's a 993?
24:39
Oh, that's your, he told me.
24:40
I had another gentleman come up
24:42
and he's like, I had a 993 that I love.
24:45
And I've been thinking about buying another one
24:47
and I come on this, I think this is a sign
24:49
because I see all these Porsche owners.
24:50
Yeah, so this 9146 owner, he's like, yeah,
24:53
I've owned it for, he's like the third owner
24:55
or something like that.
24:56
I think it's Sunflower Yellow 9146.
25:00
And he's like, yeah, isn't your headquarters
25:02
like somewhere in Maryland or Northern Virginia?
25:06
So he's like, didn't you go to Oklahoma for a parade?
25:08
I'm like, how do you know so much about PCA
25:11
and you're not a member?
25:11
He's like, well, I still follow you guys
25:13
but I'm just not an active member.
25:15
I'm like, you had better sign up.
25:17
And certainly I think his name is Tracy
25:20
out of Manhattan Beach, I believe it is.
25:23
So we should see him at Oodstock with his 9146
25:27
and you just, there's so many people on the cruise
25:30
and there are tie-ins and it's great
25:32
for us to be showcased not only in front
25:35
of our 900 members, but these other 2,000 people
25:38
seeing us have fun and they're wanting us to,
25:42
you know, wanting to be a part of it all.
25:45
Shout out also to Tag Heuer.
25:48
They brought on incredible inventory
25:50
for our members to see, but they also brought
25:53
in museum pieces from Tag Heuer.
25:56
And the Tag Heuer that I never, I mean, I knew about
25:59
but I never knew it existed in terms
26:02
of us being able to see it.
26:03
There were seven Tag Heuer monocles in the movie Le Mans.
26:10
Like show like ones they used in the movie.
26:12
They brought one of them on the ship
26:15
and recently one of the seven went to auction
26:19
and it auctioned like at $2 million.
26:22
Did they let you wear it?
26:23
They let me look at it, but I didn't wear it.
26:26
But I just thought that was cool
26:27
that they brought that on the boat for us to see
26:30
and all the members got to see it.
26:32
And they actually sold watches too, right?
26:34
Oh yeah, they sold, I probably can't say
26:36
how much they sold, but they-
26:38
Six figures though.
26:40
But this isn't hard to do with some of the watches.
26:43
And they brought unique timepieces that weren't,
26:45
it's like imagine if Porsche brought inventory of cars
26:49
that you couldn't get an allocation for,
26:51
they brought inventory of watches that you couldn't get
26:54
but you could get it on cruise.
26:55
So they weren't on sale or anything.
26:57
No, they're not on sale.
26:58
However, because they were being sold on the ship,
27:01
they were not tariffs were not applied
27:05
and also there was no tax.
27:07
International waters.
27:08
International waters.
27:09
I found somebody I said,
27:10
I don't think they were on sale
27:12
and I don't think they had like a special edition PCA.
27:16
I said, I think it was just-
27:17
Just the ability to-
27:18
Because of the watches.
27:19
And plus you said on the seminar,
27:20
they had like a watchmaking clinic we went to
27:23
where God bless, I mean,
27:25
watching these guys put together some of these movements.
27:29
Yeah, members get had an opportunity
27:31
to put a timepiece together.
27:33
And I tell you what, if you don't have steady hands,
27:35
you do not have a career-
27:35
But if somebody say, give me a Monica,
27:39
you don't want the one I-
27:40
But yeah, thank you to them for bringing all that.
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I don't see McCann, maybe that's in the other cars
29:12
part they listed, but I found the easiest repair.
29:15
In fact, I'm writing a Tech Tips article on the McCann.
29:19
So McCann, like other cars, has a pollen filter
29:23
or a cabin filter, the filter's the air
29:25
that goes inside your car.
29:27
And it should be replaced, they say, every 10,000 miles.
29:32
And I didn't know if mine had ever been replaced
29:35
so we bought mine with 7,000 miles.
29:37
So I said, you know what, it wasn't too expensive,
29:40
like 20 bucks for a filter.
29:43
It is so easy, you need zero tools.
29:45
Is it in your behind the glove box?
29:47
No, it's behind the glove box inside the car.
29:50
But the 987 box is pretty simple.
29:52
I don't know about the 986 the same way.
29:54
If you lift up the hood and it's under that panel.
29:57
And this one's equally easy.
29:59
It's just a young screw,
30:02
something like a tab.
30:05
Pulled out a cover, slide another cover
30:07
and then pull it out.
30:09
No tools required other than a flashlight
30:11
to help you see where we're working at.
30:13
And the whole thing took about 10 minutes
30:15
and you have a fresh cabin filter.
30:18
And I heard the dealer charges
30:19
if any of them are from two to $400 to do that.
30:23
So save yourself some money and do it yourself.
30:27
Did you get an OEM replacement or did you?
30:30
So here's the interesting thing.
30:32
When I pulled it out, it was really thick.
30:35
And I thought it was a Molly.
30:42
That's a good quality.
30:42
But the man, you could tell was much thinner.
30:45
But as I started looking at another video
30:48
that they took out a factory piece
30:49
that looked like the man filter.
30:52
So I think someone might have stuck in.
30:53
There's another filter you can get
30:55
that's even stronger.
30:57
And I think that's the one that was in my car.
31:02
That's worth getting a quality one.
31:03
It's like a $30 filter.
31:05
But the money you save by doing it yourself
31:09
All right, so as I said, there's a flurry of activity
31:11
behind us on if you'll hear a vacuum
31:13
as we're recording here, but we're cleaning up.
31:16
You know, it's like your parents coming to visit
31:21
We steam the carpets, we clean the windows.
31:23
Just a few minutes ago,
31:25
Manny and I were out front with the pressure washer
31:28
spraying down the front of the office
31:29
and just making sure everything is clear.
31:31
I do like the foam cannon.
31:33
That was a very, that was a lot better than last year.
31:36
Oh yeah, because we got everything, all the bugs.
31:38
We have these lights in front of our,
31:39
we've never been to our building.
31:41
We have lights that obviously are on at night time
31:44
and they attract bugs
31:46
and the bugs decide to die on our walls
31:49
and it stays on there all year round.
31:52
So every open house we have gotten into the heaven now
31:56
of cleaning out the bugs and making that.
31:58
Of course the other businesses around us must hate us
32:00
because that airs look terrible
32:02
and ours is nice and clean.
32:03
I thought about doing our one neighbor's one,
32:05
but I'm like, well, if I do his, then I gotta do that.
32:07
Then I gotta do the whole freaking row
32:09
and we don't have time for that.
32:11
I took some pictures of you came in.
32:15
I don't know, why don't we hire an outside firm
32:19
What you did the two in the morning.
32:24
Because one, it's super expensive
32:26
and we do most of the work already
32:28
because we gotta clear everything out.
32:31
And we are, you know, I don't know.
32:34
I just, I feel like I do a better job because I care
32:36
and people, he's talking about steam cleaning,
32:39
the steam cleaning the carpets, which we have.
32:43
Yeah, I took some pictures.
32:43
I gave the daemon that was all of our stuff up
32:47
on our desk that so when Boo came in that night,
32:51
he would have a clear carpet to the steam clean.
32:56
It's kind of like mowing the lawn too.
32:57
Sometimes it's just satisfying to see a dirty carpet
32:59
become a clean carpet.
33:00
How many times did you have to empty the water there?
33:03
Yeah, it was nasty.
33:04
Yeah, I emptied the tank at least 10 times.
33:08
So anyways, we are prepared
33:10
where we have about 300 people signed up,
33:14
easily a hundred cars
33:16
and some highlights of cars that will be coming.
33:18
We have a Carrera GT coming.
33:21
We're hoping to have a 918 come.
33:23
We have a Chip Rikerts 904 coming.
33:26
We have a R coming.
33:28
We have an ST coming.
33:30
And of course, I think we have a four liter,
33:35
And, and then, and then, and then.
33:42
So lots of cool stuff, you know what?
33:45
And we have some VIPs coming through.
33:47
Ron Gordon, we know he's coming
33:48
because he's local,
33:49
but Aaron Ambrosino, our national president
33:52
Yeah, so for those of you that haven't met the top man
33:57
at the Toneball, he's going to be here.
33:59
And we've got a cake.
34:04
We've got a blowout on merchandise,
34:07
like stuff we don't want to put back into the office.
34:09
And hopefully we'll, obviously,
34:11
when people hear this, it already happened.
34:13
But the veterans know to get there early
34:17
because they discount stuff.
34:20
And a lot of, sometimes, I think it's cool.
34:22
And I'm sure they said it doesn't sell as well.
34:24
And I thought it was really cool.
34:25
You have people that order regional stuff
34:28
and then decide they don't want it or whatever.
34:30
It comes back to us and we can't really resell it
34:33
unless we find someone that's exact size and whatnot.
34:36
So it kind of sits on a shelf or a rack
34:39
until the open house.
34:41
And so there was some cool stuff like Golden Gate,
34:44
Ohio Valley, all these different regions
34:47
that you show up there.
34:48
I am not allowed to come home
34:50
with any more logoed merchandise.
34:52
My wife's the opposite.
34:53
She has bags of stuff.
34:56
And I'm like, you know, I work here, right?
34:59
Yeah, Lowan's like, well, I got you a bunch of stuff.
35:01
Well, we go out to dinner.
35:02
She's like, do you mind wearing something
35:04
without a logo tonight?
35:07
And that takes me a while to find something
35:08
that doesn't have a logo that isn't like 12 years old.
35:12
But anyways, it's gonna be a lot of fun.
35:13
We're looking forward to it.
35:14
And I'm sure we'll report back on how everything went.
35:18
All right, let's talk about the drop of the 911 Turbo S,
35:24
which I was fortunate enough to see in person
35:28
when I was in Monterey.
35:31
And you know, I think, as Manny said,
35:35
it's not a big secret,
35:38
but, and it's not the design of the car
35:40
that's really gonna make your jaw drop.
35:42
It's the performance numbers
35:44
what the new 911 Turbo S is capable of.
35:49
And as it stacks up to, let's say a GT2 RS
35:53
of not too long ago,
35:55
this thing packs a punch that is equally,
35:57
if not more potent.
36:00
Yeah, how much weight did they say that at Damon?
36:03
Did you write the article?
36:05
Yes, 180 pounds over the previous generation 992 Turbo S.
36:10
So that includes the two electric turbos
36:15
instead of the one electric turbo in the GTS-T hybrid,
36:19
but same sort of system system.
36:22
It has the same, I think it's 1.9 kilowatt hour battery.
36:26
And it also has the, I believe it's 54 horsepower
36:32
If it's the same as the GTS-T hybrid
36:34
electric motor sandwich between the transmission and engine.
36:39
Yeah, 700 horsepower or 701.
36:43
Around the Nurburgring in seven minutes and three seconds.
36:46
Again, that's a complete comfort.
36:50
What was it, 10, 15, 20 seconds?
36:53
It was a 14 seconds faster or lower time
36:59
than the previous generation 992.1 Turbo S.
37:03
And we should keep in mind actually
37:07
that this car and it's still, what was the GT3 RS?
37:13
Seven minutes and 40 or low fifties.
37:16
So all that weight in the Turbo or the new Turbo S.
37:25
So quite heavy, but still quick.
37:28
Yeah, very capable.
37:30
It has, I saw the new bucket seats that are foldable.
37:37
The one thing that, this is gonna sound silly
37:40
because a car is monstrous in terms of power and capability.
37:45
But I think it's gonna trigger people
37:46
because it says hybrid.
37:48
It says hybrid on the side.
37:50
And you can't delete that.
37:51
You can't delete it.
37:52
And I feel like, remember the GMC's back in the day
37:55
they had hybrid on the side of it.
37:56
Like it didn't need to have it.
37:58
I don't know why it has to have it.
38:01
It is a hybrid and it's all about performance
38:05
but it'd be nice if that could just be hybrid.
38:10
There is a reason why electric or hybrid is on the side.
38:15
And I think Porsche explained that in a tech tactics
38:17
they didn't have to put electric
38:19
on the side of the McConnell electric.
38:22
Just like the hybrid, perhaps they had a choice
38:24
and it's a safety thing.
38:26
If the car crashes and you have emergency responders
38:30
they have to know that there's a high voltage
38:36
It's not a law but it might be at some point.
38:38
I can understand why that is important
38:40
but there's other ways to signal that the car has that.
38:44
But if you don't really like it,
38:45
it's not like it's welded on there.
38:47
You can move it yourself.
38:50
Is it a vinyl decal?
38:52
I don't know if it was.
38:52
I think it's vinyl.
38:56
I think the one on the Cayenne is actually a badge.
39:00
All right, all right.
39:03
I'm still getting used to
39:04
and I know it's for efficiency
39:08
and they can change up the amount of volume of air
39:12
that goes through the front grills
39:14
but man, that's a big front grill.
39:15
Those panels that open and close.
39:18
I wonder if that's for people like us
39:20
who are enthusiasts and are used to the older style,
39:26
And because I've heard other people
39:28
that aren't pushing through this just saw the car
39:30
and they said, oh, I love the front end.
39:33
Maybe it's like the BMWs.
39:35
Who's gotten used to that?
39:38
I don't know that people have gotten used
39:40
to those big buck teeth.
39:45
I didn't mean if you own one, no disrespect.
39:47
It's just, it's like I'm used to a 320i grill.
39:50
That's this big and the new one's like 10 feet tall.
39:53
Kidneys rather than buck teeth.
39:56
Those are some big kidneys.
39:57
I've never seen kidneys that big.
39:59
Kidneys on my 320i is like relatable.
40:03
And the question becomes, when will we see the GT2 RS?
40:08
And I would assume that it's,
40:10
so the all, it doesn't have to be all-wheel drive
40:14
because the system is powering the rear wheels.
40:20
So they couldn't easily, it's not like the electric motor
40:23
has anything to do with the drive system.
40:26
Well, I mean, it's, if it power,
40:29
if the all, it's an all-wheel drive system,
40:31
you know, with or without the electric motor.
40:34
So technically it's driving all four.
40:37
Because it's part of the flywheel.
40:39
It's basically the flywheel is what the electric motor is.
40:41
But it doesn't need to be four.
40:42
It doesn't need to be, that's for sure.
40:44
The same application can just be.
40:46
So this isn't like the,
40:47
the e-ray that does the front wheels, right?
40:50
I don't know enough,
40:51
but I'm pretty sure they're hub mounted sort of things
40:54
I think it does the front, yeah.
40:55
But yeah, the, in a rear-wheel drive car
40:58
like the GTS T hybrid, it's rear-wheel drive.
41:03
If you have a all-wheel drive system
41:05
like the Quera 4 GTS T hybrid,
41:07
that electric motor can power all four wheels.
41:10
Cause it's between the transmission and engine.
41:13
So here's, here's something that was,
41:15
we discussed on the cruise
41:17
when people were talking about that.
41:18
There's one person that was adamant about
41:20
save the manuals and manuals forever, blah, blah, blah.
41:24
Which again, I love a manual,
41:27
but I don't know if you were there.
41:29
You're probably there, Mandy.
41:30
And I was just like,
41:31
why do people focus on one being better than the other?
41:34
And like one should be the savior
41:36
and the other should not exist.
41:37
Like obviously PDK sell way better than manuals.
41:41
That's why dealers stock them.
41:42
If more people wanted manuals,
41:44
they would make more manuals.
41:45
But the reality is people want PDK and that's okay.
41:49
I don't think that you have to love a manual
41:52
and have to hate a PDK.
41:54
So with hybrid and the technology here,
41:58
like I would, if you haven't driven one,
42:01
reserve your comments until you drive it
42:04
because we drove the GTS.
42:05
And I can tell you, I don't care if it's hybrid,
42:08
if it's nuclear powered or whatever it is,
42:10
the performance is what it's all about.
42:13
Well, I wanted to, I was trying to get your attention
42:16
because the panelists were all saying that
42:19
if you keep buying a manuals, they'll keep making them.
42:23
The truth is, September, 2029, it becomes law
42:30
that cars have to have emergency,
42:33
automatic emergency braking.
42:36
And that's, and I'm not the one who just realized this.
42:38
I was told this by insiders at Porsche
42:41
that that will almost 100% indicate the end of the manual
42:46
because of the software and the complexity
42:49
to make a manual car be able to still be running
42:54
if the car breaks for you.
42:59
I hadn't thought of that either
43:00
until he pointed it out to me.
43:02
So automatic braking.
43:04
You've had it, you've seen it with other cars.
43:06
We've rented it and stuff, you know,
43:07
it scares the heck out of you
43:08
because it gives a good peep, peep, peep, peep,
43:10
and it breaks for you.
43:12
But that's going to become standard
43:14
when all cars being made after September, 2029.
43:17
So like low-end Civic, which is a manual,
43:20
it also has automatic braking.
43:23
You're saying it can't co-exist?
43:25
Doesn't have automatic braking?
43:27
Yeah, like when I roll up really fast in my driveway,
43:30
it goes, like it tells me to brake.
43:34
But does it actually hit the brakes?
43:39
Or does it warn you that that's an anti-collision?
43:45
But what I was told that software required
43:47
and probably maybe hardware for the car to keep,
43:51
automatic is pretty easy.
43:52
That it breaks and the car keeps running.
43:55
The manual, it's essentially, you know,
43:57
putting the clutch in for you, right?
43:59
Or somehow physically putting it in neutral.
44:03
And then if you need to hit the gas again,
44:04
there was a situation, what happens?
44:08
You know what, now that I think back,
44:09
maybe low-end's car just like warns me
44:11
that I should brake and it doesn't actually brake.
44:14
I haven't not listened to it, so maybe, yeah.
44:18
You remember that time in a rental car
44:21
that I was driving and I was about to make a passing maneuver,
44:24
but I was kind of close to the car in front.
44:26
I think it was in California.
44:28
And I hit the gas, I think, and the car brake for me.
44:34
I don't know if you remember that, but yeah, it's pretty.
44:36
But this is gonna make life really interesting
44:37
for drivers education.
44:40
Because will the manufacturer make a defeat button
44:44
and take the liability?
44:46
Or will it not be something that you can override?
44:49
And then we're all gonna have to be like 10 cars.
44:51
And drivers dead, I used to joke that
44:53
I gotta be able to see the color of your eyes
44:55
if you're gonna get a pass signal.
44:57
That was in the instructor group, never.
45:01
But yeah, so anyways, I think we can wish
45:05
that manuals will be forever,
45:06
but I think the end is very near.
45:10
But we still have our cars.
45:13
And you have used cars?
45:14
Yes, we have our cars that we have.
45:16
And I mean, PDK is pretty darn engaging
45:20
if you want it to be.
45:22
It moves so quick that, and of course,
45:26
electric cars, there's no shifting anyhow.
45:28
The Taycan has two gears
45:30
and gets that a first gear pretty quick
45:32
and you're not having to shift at all.
45:33
It's kind of interesting that we're gonna live
45:36
So the next one, I don't know if it's gloom and doom,
45:39
but the end of the production
45:41
of the Ice 718 Boxster and Cayman.
45:47
Man, that's the top one.
45:48
That's something that,
45:49
I don't think Porsche would have dreamed
45:52
that they would be hung out to drive like this.
45:57
So I guess to back up,
46:00
these cars aren't the best sellers for Porsche.
46:02
As romantic as we want to be with sports cars,
46:06
I remember being told that they sold more Cayenne Turbo GTs
46:11
than they did Boxsters or Caymans,
46:13
which just blew my mind
46:14
because that's one of the most expensive Cayennes
46:16
that they make, if not the most expensive.
46:19
And they were selling more of those than Boxsters.
46:21
That's what the market will bear.
46:23
So, and it's just not Porsche.
46:25
There's other manufacturers who,
46:27
while we all want to wish that they made,
46:30
they were a sports car company.
46:31
The fact is that they make just more than sports cars
46:34
and people weren't speaking with their wallet.
46:37
Now granted, they haven't made a lot of changes
46:39
to that platform because they knew it was coming to an end.
46:43
But, and the worst part is, if you think,
46:45
well, maybe I will go buy a 718
46:47
before they finish that window's closed.
46:50
Unless you can find one on the lot
46:52
that a dealer ordered and hasn't sold.
46:55
But do you find it interesting
46:56
that we get all this news now
46:57
that it's in the production for 718 Boxster and Cayman?
47:01
Yet, I feel like there hasn't been much news
47:04
on its replacement.
47:05
No, because the battery company went bankrupt
47:08
and I haven't heard any.
47:09
So you're basically losing two products to sell.
47:12
That's where you're hung up to try.
47:15
The whole idea was by now,
47:16
we would have had the Boxster Cayman EV,
47:19
would have probably been an awesome car.
47:21
And people would have said,
47:22
listen, this is the future.
47:23
Look at the performance numbers.
47:25
It's just like the Turbo S.
47:26
I'm sure it would have just smoked a base Cayman.
47:30
And so now all of that sports car demand
47:33
is gonna apply even more pressure
47:36
on what's left in inventory, which is 9-11s.
47:41
Yeah, which is already hard to get.
47:43
Which is already hard to get.
47:43
It's not like dealers are trying to sell those.
47:46
I'm trying to paint a picture
47:48
that we can somehow see the light
47:49
at the end of the tunnel.
47:50
But man, it's getting tougher and tougher.
47:51
It's getting tougher for Porsche.
47:52
It's for between China losing,
47:55
even though it's not a huge part of their sales,
47:57
still they're losing two cars.
48:00
I worry about this from a club standpoint,
48:03
because now every year they don't have this.
48:05
We have a gap where the used Porsche
48:09
is the entry-level Porsche for many people.
48:12
And now you're gonna have a gap
48:14
of these cars that won't be available.
48:15
It's kind of like when people are looking for
48:18
the 97.2s or the 997.2s
48:22
that was built during the housing crisis.
48:24
So they didn't sell as many
48:25
because people didn't have the money
48:26
and that's why they're so hard to find now.
48:28
Will this be the same case in 10 years
48:31
when people are looking for the last
48:33
of the Cayman boxters
48:34
and there's a gap of they won ice cars.
48:38
And they came and would say,
48:40
well, I'll buy the first gen EV Boxster
48:42
because that isn't out yet.
48:44
So hopefully we'll see something in 2027 maybe.
48:49
All right, well, I guess this is all
48:52
continuation of sort of the economic climate
48:56
and some decisions that are having
48:57
to be made at the PAG level.
49:00
The next one has to do with the future of the 963.
49:05
Man, we are just a bunch of great,
49:07
we started this podcast all happy in
49:09
but now it's getting kind of a tough discussion.
49:12
And the cost-cutting arena
49:15
Porsche has not confirmed at least
49:17
at the recording of this podcast
49:19
that they will continue with the 963 program
49:27
A lot of the experts are saying
49:29
they probably will continue with IMSA.
49:31
WEC is questionable,
49:35
primarily because WEC has a different set of class rules.
49:40
So the 963 has to use,
49:45
so the 963 both when they run LMDH hybrid
49:50
is LMDH, I'm trying to see if I can get it right to the bottom.
50:00
So in IMSA, they have to pick
50:02
from four different chassis manufacturers
50:05
and they have to use the same hybrid system.
50:08
In WEC, the manufacturers can make their own hybrid system
50:14
and I think maybe chassis,
50:17
basically they're not competitive anymore.
50:19
Correct, Ferrari and Toyota make their own chassis
50:23
and the hybrid system, everything.
50:26
Kind of like the 919 was.
50:29
So Porsche was trying to make customer cars
50:32
and trying to get one thing to do everything
50:34
and they did well in IMSA
50:37
but they couldn't compete against Ferrari
50:39
and Toyota at least not compete as well as they should have
50:42
and they have not won Le Mans with this car.
50:45
And now they're saying that the rumor is
50:49
they may pull out of WEC and then take the,
50:53
hopefully the ticket from IMSA,
50:55
winning the IMSA championship and use that
50:58
because that guarantees you one car to run at Le Mans
51:01
and use that to run at Le Mans.
51:03
But you just don't say suddenly,
51:05
okay, we're going to join Ferrari
51:07
and build our own chassis and hybrid system
51:10
because that involves a whole other financial commitment
51:13
of which right now they may not have the funds.
51:17
Commit to that, which of course, the big picture
51:19
is aren't you glad they didn't get in the Formula One?
51:22
Yeah, right, right.
51:24
That would have been a ton of money
51:25
that at the time they had,
51:27
but now it's questionable with the whole China thing
51:31
and the sales not happening there anymore.
51:34
I'm hoping at least in the US they keep the 963
51:37
because the 963 is very competitive in IMSA.
51:41
Having won 24 Daytona two years in a row
51:43
and looking like they're going to win the championship
51:45
again, I would love to see that program continue.
51:49
Okay, on the positive side,
51:52
if you own a Taycan and a new Mucon
51:58
that now you can charge at Tesla charging stations.
52:01
Yeah, that's been something
52:02
that they've been working on for a while.
52:07
Yes, you're probably going to pay a lot more
52:08
than a Tesla owner, but in a pinch.
52:12
Sure, you can use it.
52:13
I've seen where some of the older Tesla charging stations,
52:18
you have to park your car like a jerk,
52:21
like sideways and block other chargers
52:23
to be able to go to reach.
52:25
The newer charging stations are set up for non-Teslas
52:29
and you can just pull into the parking spot.
52:32
I'm sure that's all going to be rectified
52:33
because that's all revenue for Tesla.
52:35
Now they have more customers using their network
52:38
and probably it won't make the other Tesla owners happy
52:41
because now they got to share.
52:44
But when it was initially announced,
52:45
Tesla stock went up because once again,
52:48
that's guaranteed revenue from all different sources.
52:54
So at Monterey, we did a little piece together
52:57
with Gunther Works on the F26,
53:00
which was an homage to a slant nose.
53:05
Which he said, don't call it a slant nose.
53:06
Which we are not calling it a slant nose.
53:08
Which was probably the reason why was
53:11
working on their own.
53:15
A slant nose spied.
53:17
I think it looks pretty cool.
53:19
I don't know about the headlights,
53:20
but you can never trust spy photos.
53:23
Not because they're doctored or anything.
53:24
It's because Porsche will put some stuff.
53:26
They have no intention of using just to disguise the car.
53:30
A lot of people freak out and have panic attacks
53:32
because they think that's the final product.
53:34
It looks like the Rensport one that they had.
53:37
The one that was not street legal.
53:40
The GT2, what was it called?
53:46
Well, there was the 935.
53:48
Rensport Edition, yeah.
53:50
That's what kind of reminds me of it.
53:50
A Rensport R or something like that.
53:51
Pretty sure they just called it the 935.
53:54
And then there's the GT3R Rensport Edition.
53:57
I thought it was a, well, you know,
54:00
Rensport 6 had the 935.
54:03
Then the Rensport 7 had the GT3R Rensport.
54:09
That's the one you're thinking of.
54:10
I'm thinking of the earlier one, the 935.
54:14
I'm thinking this wing reminds me of the GT3R.
54:19
Yeah, that's the GT3R with that wing.
54:22
That's the one that Grant was telling about
54:23
how they designed it.
54:24
And the GT2RS ClubSport 25 years edition,
54:28
which is the Monti 25 years.
54:29
That's what this reminds me of.
54:34
So, I mean, there've been rumors
54:36
about this car for a while,
54:38
and I wonder if it would become a package
54:42
for someone to be able to order for a street car.
54:44
That'd be kind of cool.
54:45
All you gotta do is run a limited amount
54:46
and it'll sell out before the even, yeah.
54:49
Yeah, it'll be an instant hit for the people
54:51
who want to relive the 80s
54:53
and have the means to do so.
54:56
Yeah, it'd be pretty cool to do it.
55:01
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I haven't honestly told anyone outside
55:26
of those that have been on the cruise,
55:28
but September 19th of 2026
55:32
will be the next trefina at sea,
55:34
and that cruise will be heading out from Vancouver,
55:38
visiting San Francisco, Santa Barbara and LA,
55:42
and sort of the theme of this particular cruise
55:44
is gonna be a wine cruise.
55:46
So all of you wine enthusiasts,
55:48
we're going to have, of course,
55:50
our normal Porsche content,
55:51
but we're gonna have some wine partners on board.
55:55
And again, it's just gonna be one of those things
55:56
where you're not gonna wanna miss out
55:58
a bunch of PCA friends hanging out together.
56:01
And this ship I was looking at a review of it
56:03
at the dedicated wine bar.
56:06
So they obviously did that
56:08
and knowing that they would be doing this kind of tours.
56:13
Video that we recently dropped,
56:15
Damon did an awesome job editing it.
56:18
I think you and I had a lot of fun doing it
56:20
because it came out in the edits.
56:23
Yeah, it was the auction video
56:26
that we try and do every time we visit Monterey
56:29
during Monterey Car Week or Amelia Island
56:32
during their car week.
56:34
So this one was at Monterey
56:35
and we visited Gooding Christie's
56:39
followed by RM Sotheby's and then Broad Arrow Auctions.
56:43
So I think it's the first time we've gone to all three
56:46
and captured it on camera.
56:49
Or three different auction houses
56:50
captured on camera at Monterey.
56:52
We've done that at Amelia,
56:54
but it was kind of cool to do that
56:55
in Monterey this time.
56:57
Yeah, there was no shortage of cars
56:59
that were pretty incredible.
57:00
And we literally have one day to do this.
57:03
Though we start pretty early
57:05
because the next day we're setting up for works.
57:07
So I wish we had time to sit at every car
57:09
and have a long discussion about the condition,
57:14
what it's gonna sell for and whatnot,
57:16
but that's just not.
57:17
Well, you guys did mention
57:19
the presale estimates for every car
57:22
and we listed the price that they sold.
57:25
There were a handful that didn't sell at the auction,
57:29
one of which we know is still for sale
57:31
at time of recording.
57:35
If you wanna see the market,
57:36
there were some surprises in there.
57:37
I think it kind of paints the picture
57:40
through the prices of what we're living through right now.
57:44
Did we cover that RS that was repaired?
57:50
That was a bargain.
57:52
I don't know if I should mention it,
57:54
but I'm going to anyway,
57:55
but I drove, I'm pretty sure that RS,
57:58
I didn't think of it until weeks later.
58:01
I know the guy who owned that
58:03
and I know what happened to it.
58:04
You say you drove it or you just drove it?
58:05
No, no, no, I saw it in his garage,
58:08
but I drove with that person and another friend who,
58:14
and I met the guy who owned that.
58:16
If it is the same person,
58:18
but on my way to Birmingham,
58:19
I drove with him and one other friend on some back roads
58:22
and he had some other car.
58:24
I remember seeing that.
58:26
And two or three weeks later,
58:27
I remember getting a text from my friend
58:29
that, oh, remember that RS that,
58:31
you know, we looked at in his garage?
58:34
Oh, so you saw it before.
58:36
I saw it about two or three weeks before it happened.
58:38
I know you sent us a picture of it and I thought.
58:41
He had just got the car
58:43
and Bob Miller had found it for him.
58:49
Watch the video for the full details
58:50
for all the other ones,
58:51
but the RS that he's talking about
58:53
was really below market.
58:55
And the reason being is there was
58:57
some repair work that was done
58:59
and it was done by Porsche Classic.
59:00
So, you know, it was a quality restoration job,
59:02
but it had a branded title because of the incident.
59:07
But man, if you want to get into a nine, six, four RS
59:12
It was like SMS 100 and some.
59:14
It was 150 to one or 175 to 200.
59:17
It actually went for 225.
59:21
when you show us the pictures of it wrecked,
59:25
the first thing you do is you look at the seams.
59:28
And the seams are pretty straight.
59:31
Which told me that whatever you hit,
59:32
if you had a guardrail or something,
59:33
he had it so straight on.
59:37
And it was low speed.
59:38
I don't remember all the specifics.
59:40
But it seemed like it was the rear quarter panel
59:42
took most of the product of it
59:43
because the wheel didn't even look like this.
59:44
But it didn't push anything.
59:46
Everything was, at least from the picture,
59:47
you could see all the look like the gaps were fine.
59:51
The glass didn't break.
59:52
So you knew from the bent the car
59:53
that much of the glass didn't break.
59:57
If this is indeed the same car,
59:59
it was a low speed thing.
00:00
Well, congratulations to whoever bought it
00:02
because you got an RS for, I think.
00:03
So when I would have bought if I had the money?
00:06
They got my attention.
00:07
Are they coming down in price?
00:09
And I didn't read the whole thing.
00:10
It was Ray Shaffer came up and told me about it.
00:12
I'm like, I was wondering why it seems to be really
00:15
below market value.
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