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Hey folks, Lenny Lawson here, the Car Guru.
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My daughter was just in my office.
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I had to ask her to remind me of a phrase that I've used many times.
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That happens a lot these days in my old age.
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But yeah, you remember the saying, a jack of all trades, but a master of none?
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My question for America's youth today is that are you a jack of all trades?
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When I'm talking about trades, there's certain fundamental things I think that every young
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person needs to be at least acquainted with, familiar with, and they need to respect certain
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attributes that we all need to have.
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My parents imbued into me certain things.
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I didn't even realize they were doing it.
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I mean it was the example of how they lived and how they conducted themselves, you know,
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just in society, how they interacted with people that they knew and loved, and how they
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interacted with people that were total strangers.
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You didn't see a lot of difference with them.
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And I learned my respect for other human beings and interaction with other human beings from
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my parents without even realizing it.
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So in today's show, we're going to talk about stuff like that.
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I know that this is a show about cars, but what I want to do is I want to prepare
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young people and to equip old people who still have young people in the household
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to focus on certain key attributes that are important when they go out into the
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And you understand how concerned I am because you're probably concerned about our youth and
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about their influences, about where they get information, you know, the different sources
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of information that are available now weren't available to us.
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We had three channels in my house when I was growing up.
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Well, there was public broadcasting.
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I mean, and you probably, if you're over, what, 50?
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You understand the three, well, no, it's been longer than that.
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Probably if you're over 60, you know what the three channel thing is like, ABCNBC and
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And we didn't live there, did we?
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We watched it at 6.30.
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Maybe watched the local news, read the paper.
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The inputs for our generation weren't as obvious and in our faces all the time or in our back
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pockets or something that we kind of lived in.
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We didn't talk about screen time.
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Screen time wasn't an issue.
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So much of the information that they get is playful.
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It doesn't do anything to improve their lives.
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And so they think that that's all they need to hear.
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And so they come to their jobs.
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I've got, I've got them working for me, you know, people who have that phone on their
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hip and some of them put the earbuds in their ears and I don't know why I allow it.
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But at this point, I still do the mechanics, you know, they, they're, I don't know what
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they're listening to as long as they turn the hours and do good quality work.
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I'm not going to complain, but it is a distraction.
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And we've had an issue with some of our young salespeople that come to work.
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They end up not lasting long.
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We've got a good crew right now.
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And for the most part, these guys, they're young.
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I mean, I'd say age 22 to early 30s.
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And whether it's one that's a geezer like me.
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But for the most part, these guys work pretty hard and they're always, they're
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They're connecting with their owner base and they're connecting with prospects and
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they're doing videos to try to get people into the sales funnel, you know,
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people that are out there floating around maybe thinking they're in the market for
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the car, they're trying to capture them.
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And that's why these guys are successful and they use social media in a positive way.
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Now, at night, you know, are they still continuing to play around on those,
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in those areas like TikTok and so forth or Instagram or Facebook or whatever
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where it's really not adding any value to them and they're not really learning
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I mean, they're talking about late night TV going away.
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What about network news?
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Is it going to go away when this generation moves on?
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But there are certain things that I wanted to talk about today that I think
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are critically important.
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The first one I'm going to touch on is financial.
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And I'll get back to that here in just a minute.
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Okay, so your youngster is getting ready to leave the house.
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Now you've probably never messed around with the budget that much.
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Maybe you kept it in your head.
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Maybe you had spreadsheets and really watched expenses and, you know, you've been
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diligent in contributing to a 401k.
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You have have a savings account.
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You have investments.
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You know, you're looking at that.
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That is a priority in your life.
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Is that really you?
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Do you think that's the people, maybe your kids, your adult children?
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Are they living that way?
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Are they living paycheck to paycheck?
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And the reason they're living paycheck to paycheck is because they can't control
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It could be because they just don't have a job that pays that much.
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But you know, most of the jobs that I'm seeing are $18 to $25 an hour now.
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Should be able to do pretty good at that.
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Should be able to put some money away.
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But from what I see, it's just more of an opportunity to spend.
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So if you never lived under a budget, then you probably never included your
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kids in any of that planning process and helped them develop a budget.
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Helped them to understand what a bank balance is and why it's important to have savings and
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what percent of your income should, or your gross, sorry, your net income, should you save?
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Should you put back for a rainy day?
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What is a rainy day?
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You know, is that when something real tragic happens, like the lady that I'm talking
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to right now that has an old OLC, what year is that called, 2015?
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Nissan, it's got 187,000 miles on it.
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Not good maintenance history, lots of time between oil change, like anywhere from 12 to 15,000
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miles between oil changes.
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The engine's out of the vehicle.
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Her payoff on that vehicle is probably, well, as it sits right now, probably five times
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what the vehicle is worth.
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It's salvage right now.
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I mean, you could put an engine in it, but the cost of the engine with the mileage that
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she has on it, if she puts a new engine in it, it's more than the value of the car.
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But because her payoff is so high, what choice does she have?
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Plus, she has no money.
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She cannot afford to put a new engine in.
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So what does she do?
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So I can fix certain things and I can help her minimize the cost.
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I don't know whether she's wanting me to help her pay for it just as a donation or something.
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We have plenty of charities and civic responsibilities, things that we do, things that we sponsor.
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And occasionally I have paid for something for somebody that was desperate.
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But you know, I don't know about you, but I just don't like to reward irresponsibility.
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If something fails like an engine because you didn't maintain it, I'm not sure I want
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How do you feel about that?
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Well, that's how my parents raised me and that's how I'm raising my kids or raised
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my kids to bear responsibility for your actions.
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Now in this particular scenario, I don't know that she's been irresponsible with her life.
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That's not for me to judge.
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But I see a lot of this.
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I see people, they get into situations and it's not of their own making, but they've
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got nothing to fall back on.
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So that's where the rainy day fund comes in.
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And I don't think kids understand it.
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It's get the money, spend it.
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Get the money, spend it.
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Pay your bills and play Sony PlayStation all evening.
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It's not anything about development.
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Now I'm not saying all young people are that way because they're not.
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There's a lot of responsible young people and thank goodness I've got a lot of them
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But when their life goes off the tracks a little bit, they'll come and have a sit-down
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conference with me and we'll work through it and we'll talk about mistakes that they've
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made and then things that they can do to get back on the right track.
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I was talking to one of my daughters this weekend about, you know, she's having some
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issues with behavior with her kids.
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And we talked about the difference between a rut and a grave.
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You know, you can get out of a rut.
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And so some of these behaviors have cut pretty deep grooves.
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I always think of an album, you know, like the old record albums, LPs that we
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You know, if you played it for a long time, then over time, if you didn't keep a
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clean needle and keep the dirt out of the grooves, then it would start sounding
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all scratchy and you would lose your sound quality.
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But life's kind of like that too.
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You know, we can get stuck in a rut and pretty soon, things just aren't
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But with kids, it takes a while to get out of that groove.
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You know, you get halfway up the slope and you're almost there and then you
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tumble right back in.
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So I like to talk to these young people and say, what kind of groove are you in?
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What kind of rut are you in as far as your lifestyle is concerned?
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I mean, it's everything from marriage falling apart to, you know, being
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overweight, being unhealthy, having financial troubles.
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I mean, I've heard it all.
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I've been through, I don't know how many divorces I've never had one myself.
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But the one thing that's consistent about most of the issues, and I think you'll
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agree with this, is most of the wounds are self-inflicted.
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And it's behavior over a long period of time.
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I think kids are getting exposed to a lot of stuff in school, which is good.
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I've done a lot of interaction and do a lot of talks at high schools.
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I don't really, it's harder for me to relate to middle school people.
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They wanted me to do a career day for eighth graders.
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You know, when I was in the eighth grade, I remember I had a civics class, and
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they wanted us to pick our three careers that we were pretty sure that we were
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Well, mine was a mechanical engineer, an architect, or a forest ranger.
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None of those worked out for me.
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You know, I didn't know I was gonna be a car dealer.
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I mean, we lived in West Virginia.
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My dad worked for Chevrolet and Motor Division.
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He wanted to be a car dealer.
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So he turned in his resignation.
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They helped him find multiple car dealerships.
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We settled on one in Greenville, Tennessee, moved here.
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And I started high school at 14, 10th grade at 14.
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And my brother, I knew he wanted to be a doctor.
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He wanted to follow in the footsteps of our grandfather.
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But I didn't know what I was gonna do.
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But I felt like the car business was good.
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It looked fun, you know, get to drive all these new cars.
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And, you know, little did I know what all was gonna be involved.
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But I found out after I graduated from college, I went to a school up in
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Detroit, Michigan, called the Chevrolet School of Merchandising and Management.
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It was run by Chevrolet.
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Well, it was run by General Motors, and each division had their own branch of it.
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But what they did is you stayed up there.
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You lived in Detroit for six weeks.
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And I learned more in six weeks than I learned in four years in college.
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But it was specific knowledge about becoming a car dealer.
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And I love it when young people are able to take advantage of those
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kind of educational opportunities where they learn something that is specific
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and directed to what they're gonna be doing.
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And this generalized stuff is what gets people in trouble.
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We're seeing a lot more young people that are high school graduates that are not
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going to college, but they're graduating high school and they were in a college path.
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They should have gone a technical path.
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But too often the technical path is frowned upon, you know?
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And I mean, we looked down on that when I was in high school,
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I was going to college, you know?
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I wasn't gonna go learn how to work on cars or wire a house.
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But those are the jobs of the future.
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You know, all of those technical skills that these kids don't want to do, or
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so many of them, they go to college and they end up getting a 40-year degree and
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end up waiting tables at Applebee's.
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And they're off to a terrible start, you know, financially.
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They don't know how to manage their money.
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They don't know anything about credit and, you know, I talk about credit.
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I'm not talking about credit to eighth graders.
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But I talk about it to 11th graders and 12th graders.
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And you know, the funny thing is that they have watched their parents.
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They know that their parents have bad credit.
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Not all of them, but a lot of them do, because they've watched, you know,
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they've answered the calls from the collection agencies.
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You know, they've seen or heard, overheard their parents fussing about not
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being able to make the car payment or whatever, the mortgage payment.
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And so what we don't want to do is repeat those mistakes.
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So I'm a big, big advocate of businessmen and businesswomen going
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into schools and talking some sense into these people.
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And there are 11th graders and 12th graders before they get out of school
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so that they understand what their financial responsibilities are and
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what creating a strong financial path looks like so that they don't get
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into some kind of a rut that they languish in until they're in their mid-30s.
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And by that point, you know, they're disgusted and frustrated and
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they've had four or five different jobs.
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And they're looking for another new start.
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And you may be saying, well, Lenny, what makes you an expert?
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Well, I'm not an expert, but I see it.
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I have for, well, I've been doing this for 47 years now.
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I've interviewed a lot of people and not hired very many because
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of just the lack of qualifications.
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You know, how somebody interacts with you.
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Another thing I wanted to talk about is just the lack of communication
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skills that kids have, a lot of them.
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As far as communicating, they aren't able to connect with me.
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You know what I'm saying?
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They don't look me in the eye, their eyes are darting back and forth.
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You ask them what their goals are in the future.
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They hadn't even thought about it.
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You know, never really thought about that.
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You know, where do you want to be in five years?
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What do you want to be doing?
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What would be the perfect job for you?
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I don't know, something I can make a lot of money doing.
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You know, it's just, there's no real focus on a career,
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something that they enjoy doing.
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I've heard many times that if you take on a job
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that you love and you enjoy it,
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you'll never work a day in your life.
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I mean, I'm 68 years old.
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I could retire right now.
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I could go to the house, sell the dealership
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and be fine for the rest of my life.
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But I enjoy having a place to go to,
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young people to be able to nurture and grow
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and be a mentor for them.
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And just having a challenge.
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I mean, I just can't imagine waking up
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and you know, what yard cell am I going to today?
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Let's see, I'm ODR to clean out the garage.
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Oh yeah, I gotta go clean out the attic now.
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That's not a daily plan for me.
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You gotta see my calendar today.
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I showed it to my daughter.
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She said, dad, you shouldn't have that much to do.
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I said, I know if all of you would do your jobs,
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I wouldn't have this much to do.
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I was just kidding though.
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But I say all that to say this.
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I had a tour that I had worked out
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with the technical school here
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and they were gonna bring a bunch of,
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let's see, what were they?
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I think they were sophomores in high school.
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And there were about 15 of them, the bus shows up
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and I'm just, I'm sitting here in the showroom and I said,
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okay, Lord, please let me say the right things
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to inspire these young people to be better,
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to work harder, you know, to understand
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what's laying out in front of them.
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And so, you know, I gathered them together
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in the waiting room over on the Nissan showroom
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and we talked for a little while
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and I talked about personal responsibility
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and I did it in a way, well, I like telling stories.
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And so I use examples of stories and people that I've known
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and also some occasional, some fictitious characters.
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And you can see, you can just see a light switch turn on.
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And I knew I had them, I had their attention.
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And then we started going through the dealership
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and they saw, I keep a lot of vintage cars,
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antique cars and stuff like that
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and they think they're so cool.
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And we just, cars in general are a big turn on
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for people of that age.
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And then we went into the shop
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and I talked about how hard it is to be a technician,
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what kind of skill sets you have to have,
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what kind of money they make.
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We broke down what it takes to live comfortably
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and what you can make in certain types of jobs.
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And, you know, I just got so many good comments
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and I had a bunch of them ask me
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if they could visit with me later on one-on-one
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and I said, sure, here's my cell phone number.
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You'll give a sure note?
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Yeah, this is my cell phone number.
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And let's get together and talk.
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I'll be glad to strategize with you
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and give you some ideas
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and talk a little bit further on a private basis.
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And after it was over, their teacher
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or whoever their host was came up to me and said,
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you know, I really appreciate you doing that.
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That's stuff that they really needed to hear.
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And that's what I really needed to hear.
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You know, you want feedback
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from the people that are closest to the source.
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And, you know, they said,
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he asked if they could bring another group.
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And I said, sure, just let me know anytime I'm available.
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You know, what I find though,
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when I make those offers to schools,
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especially the county schools,
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they're just, there's so many demands on them.
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They just don't think about it.
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It's just out of sight, out of mind.
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And I found that the best way to be able to go to schools
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and then interact with them is not wait
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for the invitation to come.
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Is to make the offer, go to the top, go to the principal,
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go to the superintendent if you have to say,
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you know, I'm willing to do this.
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This is the content that I can bring.
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I think I can make a difference.
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But you know, the way I look at it
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is I just help one.
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If I just take one kid
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and light a fire in his mind, then I've succeeded.
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Okay, I'll take my last break.
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I'll be back in just one minute.
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I was in the waiting room the other day.
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It was at my rehab, my physical rehab facility
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where I'm getting rehabilitation on my new hip.
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And I was just listening to these two ladies talk
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and both of them are grandparents
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and both of them are raising their grandchildren.
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Now I didn't get into the details
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but they were talking about all the school things
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they had to take them to
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and all the extracurricular activities
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and how hard it is on an old body
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to keep up with these young people.
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And some of the situations are due to drugs.
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Some of them are other life circumstances.
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Maybe somebody dies, you know, child dies
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or something like that.
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That happened to me.
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As far as the majority of cases,
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I think the reasons that the grandparents
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are raising the grandkids
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is because the parents made bad choices.
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They did not have people in their lives,
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whether it be somebody at school or whatever
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to inspire them and to give them hope
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and to challenge them to be better.
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And in so many other areas of their life
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that if they just had some guidance and some mentorship
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then they could have been more successful
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when they'd be raising their own kids.
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The grandparents could be grandparents.
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I mean, that's what we're supposed to do, right?
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And we're supposed to spoil them rotten
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and then hand them back.
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You know, we go to ball games, we watch them,
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and but we don't have to deal with the fussing afterwards.
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I mean, 70 year old grandmother
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shouldn't be raising teenagers.
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I think banning cell phone use in schools
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I couldn't believe my grandson said
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that they're allowed to have cell phones in the classroom
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where he goes to school up in Northern Kentucky.
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They banned them in the schools here in Greenville
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and I think that's a great idea.
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We have to break that mind lock
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that the devices have on our youth
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but also on many other parents.
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Maybe you abuse it as well.
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And my wife reminds me, look at your screen time.
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I think you're spending too much time on your phone.
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Of course, I always have an excuse.
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I'm working, I'm preparing a new podcast.
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But really I was watching to bring a trailer auction
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to see what Fort Bronco was gonna bring.
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So I don't apologize for taking up this time
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and not talk about cars.
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But occasionally this is what I do.
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So wake up if you need to wake up.
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Don't let the cell phone rule your family life.
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If you're going out to dinner, all four of you,
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two parents and two kids.
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And the first thing you do is everybody sits down
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and gets their phone out.
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If you text all the time instead of talk,
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Starting early in high school,
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if your kids aren't having to manage their own money
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and pay their own bills to a certain degree,
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And if your kid can't even look a waiter in the eye
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when he's taking his order, there's a problem.
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And it's not the kid.
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So if you need me, call me 423-552-2020.
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Anything automotive or otherwise.
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Or you can send me a text to Lenny Lawson
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2020 at gmail.com and don't forget,
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the CarGuru guidebook is available.
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And I can email it to you.
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Just send me an email to LennyLawson2020 at gmail.com.
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Or you can text me, like I said,
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and I will send you a PDF of the CarGuru guidebook,
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which will save you thousands upon thousands of dollars
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over your life when it comes to buying,
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selling, trading, servicing cars.
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Well, I'll see you next time.