The podcast dives into the recent tension between NASCAR drivers Ross Chastain and Daniel Suarez, exploring their on-track confrontations, past teammate dynamics, and Suarez's public apology contrasted with Chastain's silence. The hosts also discuss Denny Hamlin's impressive season start and championship prospects, the evolving competitiveness of teams like Penske and RFK, and the impact of tire fall-off on racing strategies at Darlington. Additional topics include throwback paint schemes, driver behavior, and fan questions about racing incidents and traditions, all wrapped up with sponsor shoutouts and upcoming guest teasers.
Dale Earnhardt Jr. is back from vacation and into the studio for a new edition of Dirty Air. He joins co-host TJ Majors to unpack all the action from NASCAR’s visit to the desert in Las Vegas:
Daniel Suarez and Ross Chastain have an altercation
Denny Hamlin is looking like a championship favorite again
Who is emerging as a powerhouse team?
Where is the points cutoff for championship contenders?
During the Ask Jr. portion of the episode, listeners wrote in questions regarding:
Sheldon Creed and Taylor Gray’s dust-up at Las Vegas
Carson Hocevar’s throwback paint scheme for Darlington
Dale’s NCAA bracket
Sausage links or patties?
How long do you give someone until you beep when the light turns green?
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NASCAR is a type of car racing where drivers race specially built cars on oval tracks. It's very popular in the US and has many exciting races.
NASCAR is a popular American motorsport sanctioning and operating company known for stock car racing events primarily held on oval tracks. It features highly modified production cars competing in various series.
"Jenny Hamlin winning his 61st win in the Cup Series, overcoming a speeding penalty, which he seems to do every other race."
The Cup Series is the highest level of NASCAR racing where the best drivers race fast cars on oval tracks and road courses. It's like the major league of stock car racing.
The Cup Series refers to the NASCAR Cup Series, which is the top racing series of the National Association for Stock Car Auto Racing (NASCAR). It features professional drivers competing in stock car racing events across the United States.
"Jenny Hamlin winning his 61st win in the Cup Series, overcoming a speeding penalty, which he seems to do every other race."
In NASCAR, drivers have to slow down in certain parts of the race track like the pit area. If they go too fast, they get a penalty that makes them lose time.
A speeding penalty in NASCAR is a penalty given to a driver for exceeding the speed limit on pit road or other regulated areas during a race. This usually results in a drive-through or stop-and-go penalty, which can affect the driver's race position.
"Let's talk about a little confrontation that happened on the pit road. Suarez and Chastain got into it."
Pit road is where race cars stop during a race to get new tires, fuel, or fixes. Drivers have to be careful and slow down here to keep everyone safe.
Pit road is the area at a racetrack where cars enter to receive service such as refueling, tire changes, and repairs during a race. It is a critical zone governed by speed limits and safety rules to protect crew members and drivers.
"in collectible form, nobody does it better than Lionel Racing, the official diecast of NASCAR. Their race-win diecasts are some of my favorite cars in my own collection."
Lionel Racing makes small model cars that look just like real NASCAR cars, including all the scratches and tire marks from the races. People collect these models to remember special racing moments.
Lionel Racing is a company specializing in producing highly detailed diecast model cars, particularly known for their NASCAR race-win replicas that capture the exact look of the cars including marks and damage from the race.
"Hendrick Chevrolet with the new body. That's got to be promising to see it a mile and a half."
Chevrolet is a car company from America that makes cars for racing and regular driving. In NASCAR, their cars have special shapes to go faster on the track.
Chevrolet is an American automotive brand that competes in NASCAR with factory-supported teams. Their race cars often feature updated body styles to improve aerodynamics and performance.
"Hendrick Chevrolet with the new body. That's got to be promising to see it a mile and a half."
The 'new body' means the car has a new shape that helps it go faster and handle better when racing.
In NASCAR, the 'new body' refers to an updated car body design that teams use to improve aerodynamics, speed, and handling. These changes can significantly impact performance on certain track types.
"The laps ran out. The track goes through a swing late in the afternoon there with the shade one and two."
When the 'laps ran out', it means the race finished because they completed all the laps they were supposed to race.
In racing, 'laps ran out' means the scheduled number of laps for the race has been completed, ending the race regardless of which driver is currently fastest.
"I feel like the tires fell off and then they kind of plateaued a little bit lap time wise would be cool if they would keep falling some, but yeah, well, I think that's been the you know, they have been able to build a tire that does fall off more, but it does seem like you know, when it does reach that limit it does plateau and stop."
Tire fall-off means the tires get less sticky and slower as they wear out during a race. Drivers have to be careful because worn tires make the car harder to control.
Tire fall-off refers to the reduction in grip and performance of racing tires as they wear down during a race. This affects lap times and how drivers manage their tires over the course of an event.
""just by the seat of the pants the feel of the car and the steering wheel in his hands I mean he just really really understands how to get that car around the racetrack better than a lot of people""
When someone says 'seat of the pants' driving, they mean the driver is using their feelings and senses to control the car instead of just looking at gauges or computers. It's like knowing how the car moves just by how it feels.
The term 'seat of the pants' refers to a driver's ability to feel and control the car intuitively through physical sensations rather than relying solely on data or instruments. It highlights a driver's skill in sensing the car's behavior through the steering wheel and body feedback.
""a lot of that I do believe is being with Gibbs as long as he has because that keeps that door open cause Kyle Busch if he was still at Gibbs could he still be winning""
Gibbs is a famous racing team in NASCAR. Drivers who race for Gibbs usually have good cars and a better chance to win.
Gibbs refers to Joe Gibbs Racing, a prominent NASCAR team known for fielding competitive cars and developing talented drivers. Being with Gibbs often provides drivers with strong resources and opportunities to win.
"Penske 23 and Roush Keselowski got a top 10 but I I mean the Ford's I was expecting a bit more"
Penske is a big name in car racing and also sells and fixes cars. They have teams that race in famous car races.
Penske is a prominent racing team and automotive company known for competing in NASCAR, IndyCar, and other motorsports series. They also have a legacy in automotive parts and dealerships.
"Penske 23 and Roush Keselowski got a top 10 but I I mean the Ford's I was expecting a bit more"
Roush is a company that makes fast cars and races them in big car races like NASCAR.
Roush is a well-known American automotive company and racing team, especially in NASCAR. They build and modify performance vehicles and have a history of competing at high levels in motorsports.
"disadvantage as a organization is Ford the automobile at a disadvantage at a Vegas I don't know you really didn't see any of the Ford's no but I mean it's"
Ford is a big car company that makes many types of cars and trucks. In racing, teams use Ford cars to compete against other brands.
Ford is a major American automotive manufacturer known for producing a wide range of vehicles including performance cars and trucks. In racing contexts, Ford often competes with other manufacturers through teams using their cars.
"you got to start getting good stage points... on the screen is stage points this is where you're seeing people separating themselves... yeah so stage points are telling us they're very critical this year..."
Stage points are extra points drivers get during parts of a race, not just at the end. They help drivers earn more points to win the season.
Stage points are points awarded to drivers based on their position at designated segments (stages) within a NASCAR race. These points contribute to the overall championship standings and can be critical for drivers to accumulate throughout the season.
""...so going down the back straight away Sheldon goes low...""
The back straightaway is a long straight part of a race track where cars can go really fast and try to pass other cars.
The back straightaway refers to the long straight section of a race track opposite the start/finish line. It is a critical area for drivers to gain speed and make overtaking moves.
""...Sheldon goes low Taylor Gray goes low as well...""
When a driver goes low, they drive near the inside edge of the track to try to pass other cars or keep their speed.
In racing, 'going low' means driving on the lower part of the track, usually near the inside line of a corner or straight. This can be a strategic move to attempt overtaking or maintain momentum.
"it stands out yeah and so I've ran that scheme and so we ran it"
A paint scheme is the special design and colors painted on a race car to show who sponsors it and to make it look cool and recognizable.
A paint scheme refers to the specific colors and graphics applied to a race car, often representing sponsors or team branding. It is a significant part of a driver's identity and fan recognition in motorsports.
"is there a Tesla wave? there's not a Tesla club like the Jeep most people that have Teslas don't even look at each other"
Tesla makes electric cars that are different from regular gas cars. People who drive Teslas usually don't wave at each other like some other car groups do.
Tesla is an American electric vehicle manufacturer known for its innovative electric cars and autopilot technology. Tesla has a strong brand community but is not typically associated with traditional car culture gestures like waving between drivers.
"do you ever flash your lights to let people know there's cops back there I do that give a little tap there yeah I flash lights to trucks if they want in or cars that are trying to blend over I look around though to make sure there's not a cop around because you're not supposed to do that yeah you're not supposed to do that"
Some drivers flash their headlights to tell others that police are nearby, but in many places, this is against the law.
Flashing headlights to warn other drivers of police presence is a common informal practice among drivers. However, in many jurisdictions, it is illegal because it can interfere with law enforcement activities.
"Kubota Orange Days is here which means so are the best deals of the year on compact tractors so race on over to your local Kubota dealer"
Kubota makes small tractors and machines that help farmers and gardeners do their work easier. They are popular because they last a long time and work well.
Kubota is a well-known manufacturer specializing in compact tractors and agricultural equipment. They are recognized for durable and efficient machinery used in farming, landscaping, and construction.
"I was excited about tire fall off, excited about horsepower, excited about less downforce, anxious about tire allotment."
Horsepower tells you how strong a car's engine is. More horsepower means the car can go faster and accelerate quicker.
Horsepower is a measure of an engine's power output, influencing how fast a car can accelerate and its top speed. In racing, more horsepower can provide a competitive advantage.
"I was excited about tire fall off, excited about horsepower, excited about less downforce, anxious about tire allotment."
Downforce is like a force that pushes the car down onto the road so it sticks better when going fast. Less downforce means the car might slide more but can go faster in straight lines.
Downforce is the aerodynamic force that pushes a car down onto the track, increasing tire grip and stability at high speeds. Less downforce can make a car harder to handle but potentially faster on straights.
"The tire allotment can bite you. Yeah. Like pretty bad, especially if there's like back to back yellows."
Back to back yellows mean the race has several pauses one after another because of accidents or problems on the track. This can make it hard for drivers to plan their stops and use their tires well.
Back to back yellows refer to consecutive caution periods in a race, which can disrupt race strategy and tire management by forcing multiple pit stops or limiting track position gains.
"...if you have a, say a guy cuts tire and practice, doesn't get to qualify, he is down that set of scuffs that he would have qualified on."
Before the race, drivers practice and then do qualifying to see who starts where. Using tires in these sessions means fewer new tires are left for the actual race.
Practice and qualifying sessions are parts of a race weekend where drivers prepare and compete for starting positions. Tire usage in these sessions affects the number of fresh tires available for the race.
"...can you buy tires? Rick Ware, line one, you can't, you can't get any more than they allotted. They used to be him. I mean, back in the day, you know, I was used to seeing somebody was out, you bought their tires..."
Sometimes teams could buy extra tires from other teams if they needed more, but now they usually can't do that anymore.
In some racing eras, teams could buy unused tires from other teams to increase their tire allotment. This practice is now restricted or banned in many series to maintain fairness.
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This is the most fun I've had in this chair
in the last hour and a half.
I don't know if we've ever argued.
Did I piss you off over the weekend?
I'm still sour that I was the best man at your wedding.
Who was your best man, Dale?
TJ.
TJ.
You don't need a cool vest for that race.
What are you thinking?
Get him, TJ.
That way it's starting to show.
All right then.
Hey everybody, it's Dale Jr. back again
for another episode of the Dale Jr. download.
It is, oh man, what episode is it?
It's not on here.
698.
698, usually that's on the sheet.
Yeah, I don't like it.
You know, you look at the sheet
and you might see something different every week.
We're coming off of Las Vegas.
Hey, I printed you standings and results.
You did.
You presented standings, results, which I'm thankful for.
And we're recording this.
Can I tell everybody we're recording it on Monday?
We're recording it on Monday
because I'm going to test tires tomorrow for the cars tour.
And so...
Getting some fall off.
I'm excited to get behind the wheel of a race car tomorrow.
Wednesday's guest.
I hinted on social media about how excited I was
about this guest.
It is none other than this figurine on the table right here,
Magnum TA.
Magnum TA was a wrestler in the 80s,
tag team partner with Dusty Rhodes.
And soon to be world champion before an auto accident
into his career.
And I've never met him.
I've been a big fan of his.
I was a massive fan when I was a little boy, 10, 12 years old.
And so Magnum will be in here for the interview
and that'll be out Wednesday.
He's going to tell us his story about his career
and overcoming the tragedy and all of that good stuff.
And also we talked about getting into trading cards.
Right, TJ?
So I brought this Randy Johnson autographed rookie card.
And I'm going to keep it here in the studio
until we get Randy on the show.
Randy's a guest that I want on the show.
I would love Randy.
Yeah, Randy Johnson.
Randy Johnson is also a photographer on the side
and he's been to NASCAR races.
We got to get him.
Randy, come on, man.
Get on the show.
I'm a huge fan, a big unit.
I want to talk about him hitting that bird.
Steven, go book him.
That bird.
That's hilarious.
Of all the things.
I want to talk.
This man was a machine.
He was.
Let's go.
Randy, we want you on the show.
I'm going to set it back here with you.
All right, there we go.
Randy's up there.
So when Randy comes, well, we'll probably
still leave it up there.
But I'm hoping that's like all these things in here
are like, good, yeah, good energy.
So anyhow, good to see you, TJ.
Yeah, welcome back to a good trip.
We are.
We are in the Arby's studio.
We got to make sure people hear about the new Arby's
Meetin' Three Box.
You got one sitting right there in front of you.
I do.
And I'm getting texts from people that are saying
your advertisements are working because they're
going to getting this thing.
I love it.
Well, you get more meal for your money
at Arby's with that Meetin' Three Box.
A lot of meat.
Yeah, we had the meats at Arby's.
I have enjoyed this relationship.
And it's kind of reconnected me with a brand
that I was a big fan of years and years ago.
So it is.
And there's some things on their menu
that I didn't know they had that are very good.
They're Buffalo chicken sliders are amazing.
But to do it now, anyhow.
Meetin' Four Box coming up.
We got a lot to cover.
Jenny Hamlin winning his 61st win in the Cup Series,
overcoming a speeding penalty, which he seems to do
every other race.
Yeah.
We're going to get back to talking NASCAR in a minute.
But you brought a case.
Yeah, I did bring a case.
So I told you I was going through all of my old baseball cards.
Yeah.
So you sent me that list.
I found them.
And these are the ones that actually have some value.
So here's my little case I present to you.
Look at that.
When did you get your case?
I bought it off of Amazon.
After you saw mine?
I don't know.
That's yours.
Yes, I did see your case.
Yeah.
So I've been putting them all in these nice little...
So I've had these in storage and they're in perfect condition.
And I've been pricing each one, looking up the value of each one
in raw condition, and putting the ones that have any real value
in this case.
Yeah, that's a good idea.
Because cards, you can have so many of them things.
I'll let you look through it.
Yeah, take a look a little bit.
Nice.
Let's talk about a little confrontation
that happened on the pit road.
Suarez and Chastain got into it.
Right?
It's a little bit of a...
I don't know what happened on the racetrack, I guess.
I went back and watched both of them, and I can't really find a lot,
like other than just racing each other hard.
What was going on?
Oh, so you didn't see anything.
So, I mean, this is...
Yeah, they were doing a lot of air blocking.
Well, Chastain is the man at air blocking.
Like, that's what he's known for.
I mean, Suarez is not far from it.
Suarez is out front.
Chastain's trying to go to the high side here and turn 3 and 4.
He doesn't have a run.
He might create a run off this right here.
This will get a run.
All right, he's getting right up on his bumper here.
Now it's the game of, where are you going?
Yeah, and Suarez doesn't go to the bottom.
He's just working up right there.
Ross is trying to get his right rear quarter panel.
He gets there.
So, there's a big lift right here.
You can't hear it, but there's a huge lift.
All right, so that was it?
He didn't like him get...
So far, that's all anyone's ever seen from the race.
I think there's one other instance where they're around each other.
Well, look, so when discussing this,
reporters asked Chastain and he said not a chance for a comment.
Suarez did offer this saying our relationship has always been a little weird,
almost like a little bit of a two-faced on his part.
Which, I mean, I think that a guy can be one way off the track
and a guy can be a completely different way on the track.
Logano.
Great example of that.
Super good guy.
Nice.
You don't want to race.
Hang out with him.
On the racetrack, you wouldn't recognize him.
Completely different person.
I just hate that Ross is going to not even talk about it.
Look, we don't... I don't know.
He never really does.
I know.
I hate like...
Boy, that kind of stopped after the Darlington instance.
All that.
Yeah, that's true.
That all got put...
Ross did change after Darlington.
He did.
He is... He still races hard, but he's not as much of a...
Some cars.
Conversationalist.
Certain cars.
Oh, I'm just saying he's not...
Yeah, I know.
He's not going to get out of the car and talk on the microphone too much.
Yeah, you know, Daniel's a guy who has a bit of a chip on his shoulder.
You know, he's looking for the opportunity he feels like he deserves.
You know, and he's...
He was fast.
He has been fast this year.
He was fast yesterday.
He's been a great spire car all year long.
So my question is if...
We saw the video of Daniel moving Ross up the racetrack,
and then Daniel's the one going over to Ross.
Is that just because after the race stuff?
Well, that really wasn't much either, though.
I don't know what happened.
You know what prompts Daniel to go over there.
I didn't see anything on the racetrack that would...
Ross pulled up to him after the race and kind of swerved at him a little bit,
but is that really a...
I don't know.
This was the straw...
This was just the excuse to have this happen.
There seems to be some bad blood between the two drivers that exist from the past.
Or is it the company?
Because, I mean, I'm not going to lie, you go back to Kota a couple weeks ago,
and I'm pretty sure Suarez took out Zillich in a turn one.
I don't know.
That's how Zillich got spun, right?
Well, I don't think that Ross is going to fight Zillich's battle.
No, but I'm just saying like...
Dude, these guys were teammates last year.
Yeah, for sure.
And years before that.
So, there's got to be something that has been brewing between them since years ago as teammates, right?
And so...
I mean, apparently, if the lip reading is correct, there probably is some bad blood.
Oh, yeah.
So...
Yeah.
I mean...
Well, I don't know.
They were teammates, and they must...
Oh, I see it.
That post-race swerve.
Yeah, he swerved at him.
But I mean, Ross made contact with them.
I didn't see that.
Yeah, I see it now.
You know, I think that if you do that to Daniel,
Daniel's coming over to ask you about it.
And we've seen that with Daniel before.
He goes up to guys.
He confronts them.
He says, hey, you know, what was that about?
Why did you do that?
Like, Ross right here is just saying,
I don't appreciate you running me up and almost into the fence right there.
When did he ever get run up into the fence?
Well, they almost...
That lift was big.
Like, they were getting ready to wreck right there.
But he jumped to his outside and kind of was on his door a little bit.
I mean, I just think it...
Daniel's moving up as they went through the corner.
I see what happened in one and two is just racing.
And I'm not...
I don't...
I mean, I'm not saying it's not,
but the guys don't like to be done.
Like, you can't keep working up the track if a guy's there.
I'm not...
Let's watch it again, but I'm just saying...
Don't forget you were wrong about Atlanta,
so you don't want you to lose too much.
I was Ross gaining the spot.
I don't care what the hell happens today.
You know, so I'm not gonna go...
I'm not gonna go...
I'm not gonna gain the spot and be mad.
Yeah, no, I get it.
Like, I'm not sure that...
Like, there's stuff...
I feel like there's something else going on,
because just you got the spot and there was no contact.
It wasn't that big of a deal.
There was no contact.
You actually didn't hit, but like...
Like, I didn't see much before that.
I washed a handful of laps, too,
and I couldn't find anything, so...
Yeah.
There's probably just some bad blood here.
Yeah.
Well, after this, they both walked away
in the same direction independently.
Yeah.
You know, there wasn't...
It wasn't like, hey, you know, I want to fight.
So, I mean, it was some con...
Yeah.
It was some words said and...
I don't know.
I don't feel like this is that big of a deal, but...
I mean, they're right there talking.
Yeah.
And Daniel kind of grabs onto him,
and that's when Ross is like grabbing back, I believe.
See how...
He just put his hand in his chest.
Yeah, but I...
Hands off me.
Last time somebody did it to Ross, you swung.
He did.
I mean, I don't want to mess with either one of them boys.
Daniel will fight you.
He swung on Big McDowell at Phoenix.
Right?
Yeah, I...
Put him in a headlock.
I think...
Ross ain't gonna put up no sh...
Maybe we should just let him go right there.
I don't think it's over.
Oh, they're not letting each other go
when they kiss each other.
Yeah.
And you know they're gonna be racing around each other a lot.
Like, it's...
They're gonna be...
There are two guys that ain't scared to go at it
in or out of the car.
And so I don't see it...
I don't see it going away.
Nope.
It's gonna be fun to watch.
Yeah.
But I think...
So Daniel, you gotta think about it too, man.
He's got...
You know, he didn't get retained by a track house,
so he's in this fire car trying to prove they were wrong
to let him go, right?
Mm-hmm.
And he's making a pretty damn good case of that.
He's had a good...
Yeah, I mean, he ran...
I thought he ran pretty good.
Yeah.
So it would be interesting to see how it goes.
I definitely have been watching them because of that fact.
Anytime you let go of a car,
you got a chip on your shoulder,
you want to go out there and prove that they made a mistake,
that the problem wasn't you.
So I've been watching Daniel this year.
So Suarez posted a vlog online.
A long...
This just came out.
Yep.
Suarez says that he came over to Ross after the race
in order to apologize for their run-in in turn to TJ
and explained what happened.
And he felt like what happened between them
was just racing, which I would agree.
But he says...
You know, he was upset and disappointed
with what happened afterwards with Ross
and what Ross said to him on Pit Road.
And here it is.
Quote,
I have known Ross for a long time,
and I've always known that he and I
were very different kinds of people.
But that's okay.
I have a lot of respect for him,
but the kind of words that he said after the race,
it's just completely unacceptable.
That's chicken stuff.
That's not good.
I lost a lot of respect for him as a person
because it's just not good.
Not a good look for him
and not a good look for the kind of person that he is,
I think.
And it was just a little bit sad, to be honest.
I really wanted to.
I was getting fired up to fight,
but what was I going to gain?
There's nothing to gain with that.
He's not the kind of person I really want to fight,
but just disappointed.
The Suarez mentioned that he took issue
with Ross hitting him on the cooldown lap,
saying that was unacceptable,
giving that the drivers were loosening belts
and so forth at the time
and that Ross apparently denied doing this.
I said to him,
hey, you hit me on the back straightaway.
He said, no, I didn't.
I said, you hit me on the back straightaway.
You turned right into me and hit me.
He said, oh, you were next to me.
I said, yeah, I was giving you the hand.
I apologize for what happened a few laps before,
and obviously he completely forgot
about what happened off of turn two.
Lap two.
Oh.
Suarez said that he had an issue
with his left front on the last run of the race
that affected the way his car drove,
which influenced him crowding Ross off of turn two.
He said he understood Ross was mad,
but he thought it was a little unnecessary
for Ross giving him the finger for a lap and a half.
And based off of Suarez' on-board,
it looked like Chastain flipped him off
as he completed the pass all the way
until he got to turn three.
Daniel stated by re-referencing the contract
between him and Ross on lap two,
which he said wasn't a big deal
and didn't influence the way
that he raced Ross the rest of the day.
I'm pretty sure that he didn't mean to do that.
It's part of racing.
Suarez overall thought that Ross crossed the line
with what he said to him,
based on lip-reading enhanced audio
that's gotten posted around.
It seemed like Ross made some comments
about the end of Suarez' time at Trackhouse,
like, you got fired.
Incidentally, Suarez also addressed the idea
that he's been out to get Trackhouse cars
and has been racing them, especially aggressively,
which he denied, saying,
I'm not even thinking about that.
So that's all pretty interesting to hear from Daniel.
I wonder if Ross will have a rebuttal of sorts.
I'm sure there's two sides to every story.
Um, yeah, just, uh...
I don't know. I wish...
Maybe the only thing I guessed is I wish Daniel
would have went into more detail about what Ross said
that bothered him so badly.
He might have. We're just also taking off
of what Stephen Taranto had to...
his reporting of it.
Yeah. So there's a blog that Suarez has written.
But that at least lets us know why
Suarez went up to him.
And this is Stephen's sort of, you know, summary of said blog.
Yeah. I mean, from what I saw with the racing stuff,
that's what I saw.
I mean, Daniel definitely went into the corner
to airblock Ross.
He was taking his air, going up the racetrack,
and he got to a certain point, knew that he had to live
because Ross was there.
And I mean, you know how many times I saw that happen
throughout that day? Numerous.
Tons of times. It's how it is.
So I'm not... I think it was just racing.
Is this a story...
Is this a case of guys just kind of
hanging on too tight? Like, man,
why are we...
Why are we so spun out?
Are we wound a bit tight?
Both of them? Are they wound a bit too tight?
Maybe. I think they're both hard racers
right now, too.
Yes, but also if we take Suarez as where
he's going to apologize, and why is Ross
like, immediately getting so defensive?
Yeah, I don't know.
Yeah. I guess Ross was
bothered by how he got
raced off a turn, too.
But Ross completes the path, right?
I mean, I'm thinking in my mind, look...
He probably, to your point,
TJ thinks that
Daniel's coming up the track intentionally,
but Daniel's talking about how his car
wasn't driving good, and he was having trouble
keeping his car low.
I don't know, man. I think they're wound
a bit too tight. Well, you think, you know,
Suarez just got fired, he's trying to hold on,
and then Ross is...
All of a sudden, he was the face of Trackhouse,
but now there's SVG and then Connors the Golden.
And they went into Vegas expecting
better results, because Ross ran really good
there last year.
You know, he's a moment. Yeah.
I like it. It's racing. I hope it continues.
The thing is, is, man, Daniel's a good dude,
and Ross is a good guy.
I like them both.
And while I can
definitely see why there might be some friction
between the two, because, you know,
they were teammates, and now they're not.
And that was a contentious sort of split
there for a while between Trackhouse
and Daniel. Yeah.
I don't know.
I like them both.
I don't see this being anything.
I would expect these guys to race like this,
no matter every lap of a race.
All right. We'll see. I think it continues.
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Let's move on to Denny.
61 wins, that's a big number.
JGR goes first, fourth, fifth, and eighth.
You know,
what do we make of,
you know, Hendrick was right up there as well.
They both have led all of the laps
in the last two races at Vegas, for the most part.
I think we're going to see
Hendrick
Chevrolet with the new body.
That's got to be promising
to see it a mile and a half.
But Denny was able to,
you know, Chase was faster at the end of the race.
The laps ran out.
That track goes through a swing
late in the afternoon there with the
shade one and two.
The laps ran out, the nine car
was faster, but
also, we know
that
even if he had 10, 15
more laps with the aero
disadvantage you have as the second car
following in the next year,
I think Denny was pretty comfortable out there.
Yeah, but I feel like
and I would like more of it,
you could hurt the tires yesterday.
You could hurt them and some guys
there's a, there's a,
one caution saved a couple of these guys
like Ty Gibbs
right before the yellow for Connor
was going back.
He was like quick like
and Reddick at the end of the race, like the last lap,
Reddick almost wrecked by himself off a turn two.
I don't know if the TV saw that or not, but
he almost wrecked because
he was fading that quick. So there was a
there was a fine line that you had to walk
and I think the track was going through a change getting cooler
and one and two.
Wind was dying down maybe a little bit as well.
So I don't know, it was
interesting on that side of things.
I think
I would like to see more of it.
I feel like the tires fell off
and then they kind of plateaued a little bit
lap time wise would be cool if they would
keep falling some, but
yeah, well, I think that's been the
you know, they have been able to build a tire
that does fall off more, but it does seem like
you know, when it does reach that limit
it does plateau and stop.
You know, it just falls off to a certain degree
and the drivers have talked about
how like at Martinsville and some other places
where they've tried to bring that
short track tire in
they all they're all like, yeah, we love to fall off
but we all fall off the same and then we all stop
you know and so
trying to find out
how to make a tire
that punishes someone
who runs too hard early
is the tricky part, right?
We're getting to where we can really do a good job
of building a tire that does fall off
but now trying to figure out how to reward
certain drivers for driving the car straight
is going to be another tricky deal
which I feel like they're getting closer to
for sure
Yeah, I think this is great for Denny
obviously to get out of here with a win
create momentum going into Darlington
with a great opportunity to go in there
and grab another win
Denny knows
how to
set himself up early
in this system talking about
the point system that we have this year
Denny knows he's had to kind of
you know, he's had to kind of climb out of a hole
that he started putting himself in early
but
you know, now that we look at the points
let's see here, Denny's all the way up
to fourth in points
only 78 out
He was 1 minus 126 after Kota
Right, so he's done a really, really good job
and he's going into
a racetrack where he can make even more
you know, more hay and try to continue to close that gap
you know, we talked about
Does he really have any bad tracks coming up?
You know what I mean? No, but I'm just saying
like, he is now
you know, he was such a favorite last year
and looked like, you know, just laps away
from winning a championship
How does he come into this year
new system? I think this system
I think it's better for him
I think this system will reward
a driver like him that can be consistent
and win periodically
throughout the year
and all he needs to do
is find his way into that top three
which I think he will do
without question
and give himself a very, very good chance
of going out there and winning the championship
this year, so I will go ahead
I think you got to give a lot of credit to Chris Gale
on this car because
you go to the back like that and you pass
the entire field pretty much
I've seen enough
Denny Hamlin is my pick for the championship this year
OK then
what do you make of his ability to
win as he gets older
his success rate after
700th career start
he talks about
how hard he works
and look
this is the thing
that
so Denny gets out of his car
and I've heard him say this before
he gets out of the car and he says
I'm not as good as all those guys
I got to work harder
I work really hard
I
am not
I
I don't believe he's
correct I don't think he's out working
some of these guys I don't think he's out working them guys
he's got too much to do
he says he's working hard
I believe he's working hard
I do too but everybody else is working hard
I do believe he's
good as some of them guys I do believe he's better
than some of them guys I think that he's better
than quite possibly
a Kale Yarborough some of those big names
that he's looked up to right
what I don't know
couple more years you might put him on
the Mount Rushmore right you might
I do believe talent
wise he ranks way higher
than he wants to admit
he probably deep down inside
believes that he ranks
higher but he's just not gonna say it
and so he says
well you know I'm not as good as some of them guys
but I work harder and that's how I do this
there are I said this before there are anomalies
in our
history of drivers
who didn't fall off
there are guys that won races and they're their
late 40s into their 50s
they just didn't fall off for whatever reason
a lot of guys tend to fall off
around the same time frame in those
early 40s mid 40s
they're toast and
he's not doing that
he's an anomaly he's a
unicorn he's one of those guys
that mentally
is as sharp as he can be
can and still
has the passion and the motivation
to go out there and do it
and put risk
you know you gotta take risks
you gotta put yourself in situations that are uncomfortable
well when you get older
you start not doing that
you quit taking risks
you quit going into the uncomfortable places
you get comfortable
you get complacent
for the most part you're
well off financially and you no longer
start to do the things that you were doing
that got you there
well he still has that passion
and that work ethic
to do what's necessary
but I think he's an extremely
extremely talented driver
just by
the seat of the pants
the feel of the car and the steering wheel in his hands
I mean he just really really
understands how to get that car
around the racetrack
better than a lot of people and so
I will say a lot of that I do believe is being
with Gibbs as long as he has because that
keeps that door open cause Kyle Busch
if he was still at Gibbs could he still be winning
hell yes Kyle would still be winning
that's what I'm saying though there's
the equipment is a big part of his equation
and he's done a good job keeping that
yeah no oh yeah for sure
he started 2311
they're running good enough
that you know one of the first three races
I'm just no I'm just saying they're running
good enough for him to genuinely
think about like could I go
there could I be there I don't know if the
financials work I don't know if he can
you know the sponsorships and I'm sure they could figure it out
but he's not done it he stayed
he's staying where he's at cause he
knows that's his home
that's his home and that's where you know if he
wants to truly finally
secure that championship
why
step out of a cycle that's really productive
into something that you think could work
but you're really not sure right?
that championship is going to get a lot harder at 2311
I agree so you know I think
this is his year I think this point system
and this success early
the momentum going into
Darlington I just got a feeling
that he's going to be one of those guys
that puts himself toward the top of this thing
as we get out of the regular season
I think getting this win early too is important
for him because he talked about how
Bowman Gray he was he was racing but he really
was in the car and like wanting to get back into
and I think now you get that victory and it's like
alright let's go and now you're
ready to take on the season
the personal motivation the passion
and all that stuff he talked about that in his
post-race as well how that it's all come back
to him you know you kind of
you you have something tragic in your
life happened or whatever you fall out of love
priority shift
you know you question really
where you want to be in your life and what you
really want to be putting your energy into
priorities definitely shift yeah and so
it's good to see him sort of
you know
understanding man
he's got to understand
like the
things are too good right now and these are the
these are
this won't be like this forever
and he's closer
to the end than he is the beginning
right oh for sure and so like
and hopefully like I think he's
recognizing that like I'm going to make the most
of what's left here I'll be honest
man the season starts so weird now compared
to what we're used to
all the years you kind of you didn't have
two plate races to start the year and then followed
by a road course that's not really a
like that's not really a traditional
or a fair shake to see how it's really
going to how the season is going to take shape
in my opinion you you could have two guys
DNF those plate races that are really championship
contenders yeah and and they were not not
even their fault right so
I definitely think it shakes
the point system up quite a bit and
but I now you're getting
into the into where
this is what most of the schedule
is now as you know the Vegas the Phoenix
now we're going to Jonathan and we're going to hit a short track
and two short tracks coming up so
I really feel like you're getting ready to
see the guys that are going to shine
yeah we talked
about it
Hendrick having a pretty solid day
good to see
I guess in their eyes if you're
a Chevrolet fan a Hendrick fan good to
see the car just perform well it's a brand
who knows you just never know
something even so subtle is the
is the is very subtle changes in that car
but even that can make
you know play havoc on the
the balance of the car and the teams trying to figure out how
to get speed in that but it's good
to see
them go up there and run well Chase Elliott
almost being able to pull off a win
late in the race Byron driving up leading
some laps Larson running well
as he was
it's got to be pretty
difficult I think you know you got the fourth car there
you got Bowman who's out
they adjusted in the car this weekend
the weekend before that they had
Anthony Alfredo
Anthony Alfredo and so
it's
you know I think it's
not
surprising I guess to see Hendrick running so good
I feel like they're on par I don't feel like
there's anything different but I think the bigger question
I think there is you know
Bowman how does he get well
yeah hopefully he's doing
better yeah he you know
there was some vertigo that he's
dealing with and
I guess Mike Joy said on the broadcast
they don't believe this to be
concussion related
read that yep and so
you know just how
how do you I'm sure
he's seeing doctors I'm sure he's
trying everything he can to get this
to go away I've never experienced vertigo
I've heard stories of
different people that have dealt with it in the past
and how at times
it's challenging to
to get rid of and other times it's
it's as easy as a doctor doing
you know a reset
they
I think that
Rick
Hendrick loves to tell this story
back when Terry
was driving his race cars Terry had a vertigo
incident and they sent
Terry Terry's doctor
sent him to the
amusement park and he rode
roller coasters all day
and that fixed it
and so
you know it's the
maneuver that they'll do for you
is very you know it's just twisting and
turning your head in certain
motions and so
you know I guess that's
that's not working for Alex
well more hopefully it gets better man
if you don't have your health you don't have anything
so I hope that Alex it starts getting better
and can get back into a
race car yeah it presents
opportunity so it'll be
I'll be curious you know as to how
Hendrick
navigates the next couple of weeks with
the 48 who goes in there does Anthony
get another shot
Anthony does a ton of sim
for for that program
and that's I believe why he was
you know given the opportunity at Phoenix
but um he's a little more
seminal rally car well I gave him
social media about that yeah we had
me and him had I like Anthony we had
a conversation I was
you know he
spun out of our
at Phoenix
it brought out a yellow the one was
likely going to win the race Carson is
going to win the race luckily the seven got up there
and won it but I was sitting there thinking
man we didn't need that yellow
I was pissed off about that for a couple
days and Martin Martin opened the door
for me to say something um
but I talked to Anthony
it's a
you know it's going to be interesting to see how that plays out
and what this means for Alex long term I
don't know you know I'm not going to speculate
but let's move over to the Ford's
coming out of Las Vegas
um
Penske 23
and Roush
Keselowski
got a top 10 but I I mean
the Ford's
I was expecting a bit more I think yeah not
the strongest weekend for sure
what's the deal why I don't know
I was really surprised by
um
the Penske cars like that's just not like
them yeah to be
especially yeah I mean
you know you could say
had a pretty solid day I'm sure y'all have
higher standards for yourselves yeah I would
like to qualify better with Brad but um
but I mean priests ran up in the top 10
yeah all of y'all were right there
around each other
priests and busher ran top 10 pretty much are y'all
happy with that y'all expect more do you
I think you always want more right but I feel
I feel like it was a good building block now
that we
um
disadvantage as a
organization is Ford
the automobile at a disadvantage at a
Vegas I don't know
you really didn't see any of the Ford's
no but I mean it's
you're like I feel like RFK
was probably the third best company
there that day I feel
like you know as a whole yeah
but I got you understand it's hard to compete
though when you have yeah I mean they were
yeah you're right I mean you got Joe Gibbs
and Hendrick kind of filling out
there's seven spots right there yeah at
least there so yeah but
I mean I yeah I definitely feel like there's
I think there's room to improve there I
thought the week before Blaney shined when
he was supposed to and he did he stepped up
so true you know the sheet here says
you have more confidence in Penske or 2311
I mean
I don't really and I know Tyler won
the first three races but
Daytona things lined up for him that could
have been anybody Atlanta
kind of could have been the same thing
and those are kind of wildcards in my opinion
Tyler did a great job at Coda
that was Tyler did an awesome job at Coda
but looking at Vegas
or you know Phoenix Blaney
was the pick
pretty much so to win when he did
so I don't know I feel like
it's I feel like they're pretty neck and neck
right now I like some of the tracks
that we're going to coming up
I like
I think Darlington
plays into our hands a little bit more when
the when this pace slows down
and stuff like that it's more driver and finesse
I feel like we got a lot of that
there with Joey Blaney and
one of the things that I think is really fascinating
is so we
for the past
I don't know how many years four or five years
we've always
assumed that
Penske was going to have a shot
if they get a car in the final four
they got a shot right because
Penske and Phoenix are
as they are still today
married
with one another
but now that we don't really
now that that is completely
upended
where do we view Penske
as an organization
are they part of
the big three
if you're looking at
the top teams as the A
and then you got the B's
and then you got the C's and D's
do you have Hendrick, Gibbs
and then the B teams
and Penske's part of that group
do you see Penske and
RFK in the same vein
do you see them as similar organizations
I feel like it's getting closer
I feel like it's getting closer
does Penske need to do more to put themselves back up in there
in the A? I think so I think right now
it's Hendrick and
Joe Gibbs 1A1B
separation, Penske
and then you have 2311
knocking on the door of Penske and then
RFK right below 2311
so during the season who's the car
who's the main Penske car during the season
Ben that wins races
just Blaney
I mean that's kind of what I see there too
but Joe is
he's good at
Joe he can pop off anymore
but he can't
the consistency
but this isn't gonna
this new system doesn't
doesn't provide doesn't pay that
no it doesn't reward what
style of racing has been doing
doesn't reward a lot of mediocrity
yeah
yeah I hear you man
they have a lot of strong races in the playoffs
still I mean
Blaney is the best at Martinsville
they are gonna have a lot of strong races
in the playoffs but they're going to need
to be a top
3, top 4, top 5 team
in the regular season
yeah
to have a real shot at it
it's definitely more challenging now
yeah you got right now Blaney in 3rd
points
and then the only other Ford in the top 10s
Busher Joe is 11th
you got a bunch of them between 9th and 12th
I mean right in that area there's a bunch right
yeah
he's 30th he's out of it
teacher where do you where would you like
to see Brad like these next three races
if I told you Brad is
in 8th and
points
what would you like to see these next
I would like to gain I would like to be between
6th and
probably 10th in points something like that
because I feel like you can
I just want to I mean I feel like we're
starting to chip away at it we just got to qualify
good and start getting some stage points
yeah but it's just tough
man I mean
I would like to be in the single digits at least now
like last year you guys had the bad start so
you're qualifying going out first and it's just
hard to qualify well it's very hard well Phoenix
was tough too because
you know going to this weekend we didn't have a
it was tough
but we have some good races coming up so I think
if we can just go and
we normally get good during the summer like
normally when the racetracks get hot and slick we
normally make up ground in the summer like
we've left Daytona and Atlanta before
35th in points and I think we got to like 7th
in the points like
just straight up so
I feel like we can have a really strong
summer and
I mean you're going to have to have a strong summer
to be in the playoffs now
well
they asked Kyle Larson
in the media center whether the drivers were
looking at points
every week like the media
is or the fans
Larson said he's not looking at points
yet
I feel like
we're all looking at points because we're just curious
as to how this is going to play out
but I think we also realize
like
the times now like you like every
week you need to be stacking these things up
I look more now than I did
I'm fascinated by it
and SVG told Gluck
Gluck says that the teams have like projections
and are telling the drivers this is what we need
from you each week
I mean we've always kind of had that
but there was always the wild
card if you win
you're in so it didn't matter if you
finished 35th you're like you know what let's go win
man I'm glued to the points
fan and media
whatever you want to call me
look at one bad race though look at SVG
dude I know it
one bad race I'm not glad that happened to him
but I love that it's got that effect
and I've
saw you know I'm looking in social media
I hear people you know there'll be a fan
or two saying my guys already out of it
what am I
why am I supposed to like this
that's not really true
it's not true you just got to get hot
you got to stay consistent
there are some people dude that are out of it
and we know who they are
they were never in it to begin with
let me ask you this
that was my reply the guy said
my driver's out of it
why am I supposed to like this
and I said your driver was never in it
I don't even know who he is
and I can tell your ass he never had a shot
where's your cutoff line right now
my cutoff line
what do you think your cutoff line is
my cutoff line
is Kyle Busch out of it
my cutoff line is probably
I am going to say
that my cutoff line
is
eighth place William Byron
damn
more shade on Buscher
he's ninth
I know
right there he's not 30th
he's going to kick your ass man
he's about over you
what
where's your cutoff line
I don't know man
tell me who you believe can roll
their way into a championship
below eighth
I don't know
I hate
that's kind of sound crazy but Ty Gibbs
can you stay hot
can he win the championship
no
he's been pretty consistent so far
he could top 10 himself
in the points
but I don't see him as a champion
what if he wins Darlington
do I think he can win the championship
yeah he wins Darlington
is he and do you think
well I mean he would probably launch himself
into that top eight
if he shows me that he can win then I'm like okay I believe he can win championship
but until he can get that win
if he won Darlington
he would be above my cutoff
I'm just saying I feel like
a William Byron or even
what if Chris Buscher wins two, three in a row
you know what I mean
he would then move into above my cutoff line
but then say he follows that up
with a few top
can a guy get hot enough during the summer
to bring himself into there
what I want you to visualize is this
okay and this I'm being genuine
people are going to look
at my cutoff and if I say
eighth place you're going to go wow
how could you say that so early
any of these guys could do stuff
to move forward you're not wrong
I'm only telling you that I don't think
that anyone
can win from outside
of the top eight
in the playoffs
in the chase so you need to be
preferably in the top three
but I could see
in a rare occasion
a guy from
eighth winning the championship
so you're not really looking at any names
I'm not looking at names you're just going by a number
I just think man if you're not in the top eight
I feel like you don't have much of a shot
I think NASCAR mocked it
if you're outside the top six
you wouldn't have won it
sorry
if you were outside the top six
when NASCAR did their mocks
from this race or you know what I mean
doing like past seasons
NASCAR
using this current points system
ran through
however many past years
and no one out of the top six won
yeah
my eighth's conservative
yeah
so yeah I think if you really want
you're dry if you're really a fan
and you want to be serious about your guy having a chance
you need to be rooting that he's finding himself
in that top eight
I think that's a fair
I think that's a fair number
and so I just look at that
instead of really looking at names and potential
I just look at hey man alright who's eighth
alright
alright I can believe that
William Byron Larson yes
I can believe they could get up there
and get something going
the points are definitely starting to take shape
to how
Busher, Gibbs, Logano, Kizlasky Priest
they're going to have to start
knocking down some points here soon
they're going to find themselves
further and further and further and further
you got to start getting good stage points
you can finish this
on the screen is stage points this is where you're seeing
people separating themselves
yeah so stage points are
telling us they're very critical this year
they're very important
Brad's got two
yeah well I mean he's still
12th in point
but that's what I'm saying though if you can start stacking up the stage points
yeah
yeah I mean Bubba is second
in points right now
and
he's got more stage points than anybody
53 the next person has 37
um
yeah
that's how you do it
I like how it's
so if Bubba had
you know 15 less
points where is he at in regular points
he would be
well he'd be fourth
one point in front of Denny
yeah one point in front of Denny
but it'd be close
it is very close from
from second
to
15th
you got one guy way out there in front
Tyler Reddick dude is three in a row but
they're closing in on him
that's a fun thing to watch too
can he stop that
from eroding away
are we gonna get to July
and him sit there going
man they're on my heels
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alright so first question
a lot of people have been tweeting in facebook
asking what did you think about
Sheldon creed and
and taylor gray
that's right
well I was watching the race
obviously
pulling for
our junior motorsports drivers to do well
and
so going down the back straight away
Sheldon goes low
taylor gray goes low as well
taylor gray is not really
trying to go under
larson or I think it's
the 17
of day
he does have a run
but he kind of moved down there early
and then so Sheldon creed
goes even lower and gray makes
a second move don't you see it that way
tj where he kind of he made a move
down to go under day
into three but then he made us
you know like another half block
yeah and then I think this has been going on
I think this was going on for a couple laps
like I kind of saw that as well
that was one thing that the broadcast
didn't tell us the lap before
was almost identical yeah didn't
you see that yeah I mean he was definitely
to the point where it's
getting kind of if you keep doing this
he's only going to take it so when creed says
you know you can only
block so many times
I think that's what he was talking he's also referring
to the lap before we're almost the same
identical thing went down
yeah I agree
yeah I mean I don't the gray kid had
he's you got to cover it earlier
than that in my opinion because Sheldon
obviously was look like he was going to go to the bottom
the only way to change that
is to
you got to go way earlier than that you can't chop him at the last
second and give Sheldon a chance to
move up I guess yeah at that point
Sheldon's already committed to the bottom
too and you're just coming down taking all the air in front of him
and
that's what happens
yeah I was kind of surprised though that Sheldon
fenced him I know
Sheldon maybe wanted to
send a message but didn't expect him to
actually get into the fence but he sent
him down in the wall there
what he did he have any interview after the race
Kevin Gray yeah
I know he's pretty disappointed
I didn't really see a post-race
interview or anything but we
here we go
I don't know he says though it's a video
he just says
in quotes here that Sheldon had
the mentality to go into turn three and wreck me
did he say can you take me higher
I just feel like that
you know that I don't think
either one of these guys
are looking too good right now I know that
I like the mentality of
if you block you pay
you know blocking
there's some limitations to it
and I do feel like that Taylor Gray blocked
the same block two laps in a row
and at least
in the video that we got to see from the one
where he gets wrecked he made
two moves like he moved below the 17
then moved another half a car
when the double zero creed
makes his move
and I don't know man
I feel like you can block a lane
but you can't block the whole racetrack
he doesn't even go all the way to the bottom right here
you see what I mean like you got to cover it earlier than that
so Sheldon Creed definitely
Sheldon Creed did not have to put him in the wall
though for that he definitely didn't enter three
with arms wide open I don't know
there's many things that justify getting
put in the fin no
that's probably a little too far but
you could have worked him up a little bit I don't think he was trying to
recommend I don't know yeah maybe Sheldon Creed
just thought he was going to slide up the track
and lose a spot that's kind of what I
Sheldon probably was like oh
I mean he's not really hitting him that hard right there
I think Sheldon was like oh damn
I didn't expect that to happen so is that a move
in in
54's eyes where if he doesn't try to save it
right there that much because it kind of overcorrects
right if he just slides
I mean yeah but like is that one
of the ones where you just commit to spinning out and
oh man how can you I don't know
I'm just saying like I don't think you can
I think you would end up
there's a good chance if you turn left
and stood in the throttle you'd still back in
I mean that wasn't it would come around
hit left front it wasn't like you hit him
and instantly spawn it was like well the thing is
Sheldon sent him and the Sheldon hit him
and continued to drive he would just stay it on him
yeah like here you're going
you know honestly
the shame we don't see more of that on Sunday
um it's usually
J.R.M. cars it's better
stop it
we're have we're working on that
it's good they were good this week yeah it was good racing
yeah junior merge force guys
we kind of had some that were decent and some that weren't
so good but it's
I guess it's good when you're frustrated running
8th, 9th
next question uh people will know your
reaction have you seen Carson Hosevara's
Darlington car I saw
us uh like the
unofficial
fan photo from inside
the garage oh so yeah I haven't seen this check this
that's hilarious
so
look
this is
my favorite
Dale Earnhardt paintski
the it's the
1981 car
and it gets no love
because 81 was a lost year
dad started the season
driving for Rod
would sell the team
to JD Stacey which dad
would race for four races before leaving
to go to RCR
and then at the end of the year leaving
there to go to Bud Moore for two years
so the 81 year
is forgotten lost
unappreciated but
the car is underrated
that yellow nose with those old vintage
stripes
is just in my opinion straight
badass vintage um
it stands out yeah and so I've ran
that scheme
and so we ran it
on Martin Tricks car especially at Darlington
when he won the championship in the chance to deal
um
I was so pissed off we had
I'm like I got Martin Tricks
junior in the car
that is my dad my favorite scheme
of my dad's right we're going to Darlington with a chance
to clinch and I'm
on the pit box
and I must have been practicing or
something because I didn't see the car
before they put it on the grid
but he pulls out on the racetrack
to do his pace laps and they've got blue
tape on the valence
and so it's a yellow nose
and I'm like I was
I don't know why that's hilarious to me today
that I was so um
so
annoyed by that but I was madder
in hell that Bono Manion
had put blue tape on the valence
of the yellow nose race car I wanted
yellow yeah right
and I was like
they did a poster for this car too
did you see that they remade the poster for
like the race yeah and they actually
like it I thought the detail
was actually really good because I think they changed
back then it was the the back stretch
was the front stretch right and they
actually changed and made the poster
yeah so if you look at dude
yeah well that's how it looks now
in the old they have
a comparison of the older brother it's right here
posters right on the wall
we see the I like to see the grandstand
but you can't see in the camera shot but
yeah um
I thought the detail was good that's awesome
so this is awesome
I love this design I love this paint scheme
they had to obviously slide the 77 back
a little bit um
which getting that number back to the senator doors where it belongs
is awesome um
martin martin shout out
I uh the other thing
that I love is
and I said this on social media so
some
fans
out there believe
that throwbacks are gone
like the idea of running
throwbacks are gone
and so
I'm not you know I'm reading on social media
and
as Bob Pocrus and some other people were
talking about how they're going to celebrate some of the
um
some of the you know the the past
champions and and legends of the sport
at Darlington fans are like
well I wish the
I wish throwback weekend was still a thing
and I'm I don't know why they got rid
of throwback weekend and
and man throw and then there's
other people that are saying that throwback ran
its course the car nobody could do
a throwback anymore any good so
I just find
it I don't know where people
got the idea why not that anyone
said you can't do throwbacks or we're not
doing throwbacks
NASCAR
basically I don't know if their messaging
wasn't good enough or whatever but
what probably should have been said was
we're
shifting our focus
away from
the idea of focusing on the
throwback paint schemes we're shifting the
focus actually to the physical
people and legends that are
drive had drove those cars
they have had
a lot of people come into Darlington
in the past
so this is not nothing new
they celebrated the 75 greatest drivers
of the sport on stage on the front
straight away there last year or the
year before and so
you know they've had a lot of
you know
historic
guys come to this particular
race for years every
every time I say yeah so that's what
they're gonna shift the focus toward that
no one ever ever ever
ever said
we're no longer doing throwbacks
and I think that was something that kind of got lost
in the whole conversation
teams are still doing them obviously
a lot of truck teams, Xfinity
teams, Cup teams
it's just no longer going to feel like
this sort of forced
campaign that you
you're kind of scorned if you don't
and you're criticized if you do
now if teams
want to do them they can do them
the teams that don't want to do them
don't have to do them
you don't even have to do it at Darlington
I know that we'll likely see
a throwback somewhere else during
the season and that'll be for some
some reason some connection to that date
or race or whatever which is fine
2311 this past week
was Kurt Busch's winning
like you can do it wherever
so for everybody out there
NASCAR's
not shunned
the idea of a throwback paint ski
there is just a
new renewed focus I think and it's more
of a track thing the track itself
is like hey man
the track would come to me
in the past and go
throwback weekend
what decade should we focus on
and I'm like
why do you want to focus on a decade
why put everybody in this box
yeah I agree and they were like
it needs a purpose it needs a reason
it needs something
I'm like just let people do whatever the hell they want
just let it be throwback weekend
and that's what you do
that's who you are
but they were like no we gotta do the 70s
next year we'll do the 90s and 80s
I'm like why do you got it
cause you're forcing yourself down this runway
that's gonna come to an end
and so in my mind
Darlington is our vintage
retro track
and it should be where
if you want
to do something unique
and kick it back to something old school
you can do it there and it will be accepted
it will be appreciated
it will be expected
when teams you know
junior murder sports hasn't done it all the time
we would go to Darlington and not have them
I would grind my teeth and go upstairs and go
hey why aren't we running throwbacks
what the hell you know everybody's doing them
I'm talking about them I'm in the booth
and my cars don't even have them
sometimes we just
sponsors don't want to do it or whatever
so now it's sort of a no pressure thing
do it if you want
and I think you know I'm great
I'd rather be that way
now if you do it
it's a bigger deal
now it's not expected
and when it happens people go oh look at that
that's neat
this weekend's so hard to spot
and we should be
celebrating the physical
people that have
we're standing on the shoulders of these
giants right I love that saying
that's who's going to be at the racetrack
that's who we should be celebrating
that's why the scheme is out here
that's what we should be thinking
looking at talking about
you know and so
the cars on track are kind of neat and it's fun
to see some good throwbacks out there
and we'll have our share in the truck
and the rally and the cup series
next question is
we had the NCAA tournament coming up this week
how many brackets will you fill out
just one I respect that
why do you need to fill out multiple brackets
that's kind of like I didn't think there was like
even a play
because then it's like I'm rooting for this
game here but then it screws up my bracket over here
just I know I don't know I mean if you're
betting
for money maybe you're throwing casting more
lines out into the lake right
but I'm not
and so
I'll probably find one to fill out
somewhere
and that'll be the one I hope
works out just one like some people will put
multiple brackets in the same pool
I don't think that should be allowed
that's for the people that are trying to win money
they're no longer
they no longer are investing emotionally
into a bracket they're just like trying to win
just playing the odds
I personally want to just fill out a bracket
and then come in here one day and go
I was right on every
freaking wall in Travis
look here I was not wrong
if he is though man that bracket
is going to be on the wall for the rest of the show
right
actually I hope it happens
because I'll most likely will tell your bets
that I'll be celebrating
so listen
I usually
wait for somebody to
come to me and say
this sponsor wants you to join this thing
and fill out a bracket
but why don't we just do a dirty mo media group
right
I'm sure everyone
in the office is listening now
and we could all join
a group fill out our brackets
and that's that
let's see who does the best
I'm all for it
I want to do it
but I only like doing one
yeah you can only do one
alright we got time for one more
this one is
which do you prefer sausage patties or
links
well I like a biscuit so I'm going to go with patties
sausage
and cheese and egg
if it's not on a biscuit what are you picking
sorry
if you don't have any biscuit what are you picking
yeah no sandwich what are you doing
I'll still go patty
see that's the move right there
whoops it got off of my
waffles on to my sausage
it makes everything better
I do like a sausage
link though if I'm not on a sandwich
I agree
there alright
you can't eat a link on a sandwich
I actually had a sandwich once
where they took the link and cut it in half
I'm like that's no I can't do that
let's do it let's add one more quick
we can't end on this question
I mean we can if we want to
probably not
the next one is how long should you wait
until hitting your horn when you're behind someone
at a light that turns green
if they're just sitting there
right away yeah right away
there's an obvious
moment where you realize they're not
seeing the light
as soon as you recognize that that is the case
little tap
it's seconds
I don't lay on it
that's obnoxious
but I'll do a little
the double tap move is the way to go
I don't know man
if you lay on the horn
you're just
right oh yeah
no I'm just saying if it's like
one two three even
that's too much like a tap is like excuse me
that's right yeah it's like a tap on the shoulder
nudging somebody yeah
I'm the kind of person
that's saying
like when I drive down the road
I wave
when's the last time you waved at somebody
oh if they're letting me in
no
homecoming traffic
come on bud
I'm a waiver just a car
damn random person just coming at you
maybe if my window's down
when's the last time
somebody's waved at you
not often do you remember
what did you think
they're crazy
oh you thought they were psychopaths
really not just
not just the hey man
I'm wondering did they know who I was
yeah that's what I was wondering did I know them
do I recognize that car?
that's not a terrible thing
am I supposed to know that person
I don't think
oh man psychopath
I think
damn that's nice
do you know that
back in the 60's and 70's
literally everyone waved at everyone
driving down the road
is this facts?
yeah facts
I don't think that's a fact
I don't think that's a fact
everyone waved at everybody
in town
riding around I mean
let's say 80%
now no one waved
I wish you would come back
I feel like if we all waved at each other
driving down the road
where would be a better place
I must start by waving at least to one car a day
but do you wait
so somebody said they waved to
if it's the same car as them
the wave
I just feel like
not like
is there a Tesla wave?
there's not a Tesla club like the Jeep
most people that have Teslas don't even look at each other
so you don't really wave
Jesus Teslas are schnobs
I guess they don't even like recognize
you just an anomaly?
I did try that
you're just one of the non-smobs Tesla owners?
well I probably had
I probably had mine near like kind of one before
you did get yours first
I mean it wasn't I was in the early days of it
so when you saw when it was like
what's up
now it's like now they're all over
and they got the blinders on
I just feel like if everybody waved more often
at each other driving down the road it would be good for all of us
do you ever flash your lights to let people know
there's cops back there
I do that
give a little tap there
yeah I flash
lights to trucks if they want in
or cars that are trying to blend over
I look around though to make sure there's not a cop around
because you're not supposed to do that
yeah you're not supposed to do that
yeah
not sure but it could be
against the law
like letting other people
there's a road 801
there's always a state trooper
sitting out there
and
if I were to drive by
and see the trooper
I'm going up the road a little bit
and I'll be like hey y'all
slow down a little bright light flicker
careful with this business park they got cops everywhere
looking for speeders and rolling stops
I gotta shout out
my friend Garrett Barger
just retired from
North Carolina Highway State Patrol
nice
Garrett used to go with me
every weekend
to Myrtle Beach Speedway
to race late models
like he was part of my volunteer crew
Donnie Reeves
is his uncle
who
Donnie Reeves is one of my dad's
best friends been on this show
Donnie has
and so Garrett's related to Donnie
and that's how we met
and we became friends since we were 16
and he was
he was kind of going to be one of those guys
that kind of like worked on my crew
my team my entire life
as I drove up through the ranks right
like you
mean you become friends and you spotted my race car
for most of my career
and so
but he decided one day come up to me and
I'm like I'm going to join the highway patrol
I'm going to go do that
and he just retired
I watched him do this whole career path
yeah pretty neat
so
according to A.I. in the United States federal courts
have generally ruled that flashing your headlights
to warn other drivers of police activities
protected under the First Amendment
as free speech
I can do it
I know the troopers out there probably don't appreciate me
alerting me of the drivers
I don't know how that's a bad thing
I'm saying somebody
slow down
probably in everybody's best interest right
that they obey the law
but if somebody is being
they're going 100 mile an hour you're not going to help them out
you're just trying to help out the casual driver
but Garrett like
I don't know if you remember this remember that time we were coming back
from Virginia and Norfolk or whatever
when I ran that little
that little car up there
we were going down 85 and that car
they were hanging out the window swinging
a bat around and we called Garrett
I don't know if you remember that or not
and Garrett went and they tracked him down
oh man we saw some
crazy
it was like 2-3 o'clock in the morning
and they were
we were on 85 south
they drove by us we were in
the escalade
back in the escalade days
they were swinging a bat out the window
I don't remember that
I do remember
I found Garrett on the highway
and
I
I'm following him
he's in his little Camaro trooper car
and we're going
we're near DEI
and I'm following him down the road
and there's a car in front of him
and so I had somebody with me and I was like
watch this I was like I know this trooper
in front of us you better hope
and I was like watch this and we get down
we're going down this straight away and I pull out
and past Garrett and the car
in front of me
and I was like watch
I bet the person driving the car was like holy crap
why did the
what couldn't add it up
somebody brought up
Briscoe could have used somebody flashing
some lights at him yesterday
he got a speeding pedal he got pulled over on the way
as did Denny
no in real life
Briscoe got pulled over on the way to the track
you didn't see him tweet about it
everyone was like oh this was foreshadowing
he got a speeding ticket on the way to the race
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We've got Russell here, Alex
and everybody's here we're heading to Darlington
the drivers have been talking about
Hold on before we go to Darlington
I have one little gripe with Russ
Oh, I've reached out
and just said Chase Elliott top 10
plus money for Vegas. I like that one. Yeah. Nah, he's not good there. Well, he only almost
won. Yeah. He was fastest at the end. Should have beat Danny and brought the, you know,
any bros to tears. But Russ, what they were able to hang on there. Speak for yourself.
We said he was going to finish seven to 13. He finished second. Okay. They got lucky.
I don't know, man. Maybe we're seeing chase. Ellie turn the corner this year. I mean,
that's some good runs last year. He's having a great year. Yeah. I mean, I'd say he led
the points on the comeback on the comeback trail. Um, drivers been talking about lots
of tire fall off at Darlington. Um, you know, we could all sit here and speculate on what
might happen, but we'll have to kind of wait and see. None of us have been able to really
predict what the tires can do at any of these race tracks. And we've seen all sorts of things
happen, but there's less arrow underneath the car. Um, more horsepower. Those things
absolutely should lend toward more fall off. Um, the drivers are talking about some extreme
numbers like three, four seconds. That's what I'm hearing. Yeah. I mean, four seconds of
fall off. You know what's going to happen? They're going to go slower. Well, when if
we have green flag pit stops, you're going to see some guys run over some guys. You know,
you're going to see that's a one lane racetrack. I mean, it's not very wide. And if you think
back to like the nineties and the 2000s, the eighties, even, um, guys have gotten themselves
in Rex being out there on old tires versus new tires when there's that big of a difference
between the closing rate. You just, you know, you come out there on your new tires, you
feel awesome and you don't expect the guy in front of you on old tires to lift as soon
as he does. And there's nowhere to go sometimes either in the back of that car or into the
wall. Could be some misjudging. Could be some misjudging going on. Russell, what are you
hearing about tire wear, fall off and all that good stuff? I'm hearing the same thing,
the same thing. Like, are we going to see it like the old Atlanta though? Like that's
what I worry about. What you mean? I mean, like where, where it's less entertaining,
I would say, then bring us down. We're excited about fall off. I am excited about it. We're
at the bottom of the race car and we're excited about horsepower and we're excited about tires
that we're out. So what, what makes old Atlanta less exciting? That's the funny thing, man.
I love it. It wasn't as exciting as the new Atlanta. That's why. Oh my gosh. That's not
a great comparison. No, I can even do that. You made one track a plate. I mean, should
they just make it so you don't have to lift around Martinsville? I mean, I love, I loved
old Atlanta. Yeah, I did too. Cause it was like a driver's track. Like it matter. Like
no, it's way better. Yeah. Way better now. Well, it is better now, but I liked the old
one as well, but I liked the new one. Both can be true. Yeah. In different forms. They're
in their own regard. Yeah. Well, the, um, the lines are out. So who's the favorite? You
got Denny Hammond. Oh my God. Plus 500. Jenny plus 500. That's actually pretty, pretty solid.
Yeah. Kyle Larson plus 600 Byron, Reddick and Bell. That's your top five. Do we think Larson
can end this winless streak he's got going? Was it 29 races? Really? That's a lot. Um,
yeah. I mean, I think they were in good shape this weekend to get it done. Uh, Darlington
is a def, definitely a driver's track. And certainly if there's more slipping and sliding
and you know, the guys that are, you know, better on older tires, the guys that can kind
of handle and finesse the car around there when it, when the tires are going away, he's
Larson's at the top of the list. Denny, Denny is going to be, that's an, that absolutely plays
in the Denny style. Um, and he's coming off a win. A lot of momentum. Loves Darlington. He loves
to win at race tracks where he feels like he matters. Um, so the more fall off, the more
competitive I think Denny. And we've seen them two guys battling into the final corner,
running each other into the fence, racing as hard as they can for wins. I think we may get
that very same thing again. Yeah. I'm on Denny this week too, but he's, he's at the top of the
board for me. What about some other names rests on your model? Um, the only other ones that you
didn't mention would be brisco. You know, he's one, two of the last three there. He's always good
there. He's also good at where the tires fall off as well. So I like him even though he's,
he struggled this year. Um, he's still on my list. Where do you run in those Bristol races
that the tires fell off a bunch? Do you, do you have, do you know brisco? Yeah. Cause I don't,
he doesn't strike me as being one of the guys that I see rise when this, when there's a ton of fall
off, but I'm going to pause on brisco for now. We saw last year it took them a while to sort of
find their groove. Once they find it, their, their, their rock solid seems like golf season wasn't
as favorable to them. They sort of, you know, back into some old habits and just have, just
having a hard time, right? Putting races together, even in the Xfinity race
on Saturday, the rally race on Saturday, really, really fast race car and just a lot of clunkiness
right in, in how his race played out. But, um, you know, I think if there's a, if they're off
right now, it won't take them as long as it did last year to get back in the groove,
but I'm gonna pause myself on brisco, not that I don't think he can go out there and do it. Absolutely
can. He's won races there in the O'Reilly series. What used to be the Xfinity series, people get mad
if you don't caught, like people want it called what it was called when it happened, right? They
don't like you to say, man, you remember that guy that won the 1983 O'Reilly series championship?
They don't like that. I hate that when they're like, uh, Conor Zulich won 10 races in the O'Reilly
series. I'm like, no, he did. Nope. Um, well, yeah. So brisco was 13th in that race, TJ. Okay. So
who are some of the drivers we need to keep an eye on outside of the ones that you mentioned?
Obviously, Danny Larson, you talked about reddick. Um, do you think I'm a big bubble Wallace fan this
weekend? He's running great this year. He's been top 10 and five in the last seven at Darlington.
His worst finish this year is 11th. Um, the other one that, that is going to surprise you,
like when you look at season results is Eric Jones, two-time Darlington winner. He was third there,
I think last fall. Not a surprise to me. This is, this is his track. Yeah. He's plus 4500 to win.
And if he's won twice here in the next gen, that, that's an auto place for a bit. This is a little
bit. Didn't John Hunter qualify really good here? Yeah. He ran well here last year. I think he was
four probably. Yeah. I think that's his best race of the year. Yeah. All right. Well, that's high
gives. I think he's good here. But I just wonder, you know, this fall off, if there's like, I do
think that adds into the equation of some of these guys that may have some experience and some more
with the old car, like busher, I think a busher, you know, every time we've got Kyle Bush,
man, I just, there's they're struggling. I know, man. It's not even just his speed. It's not just
that. It's not even the best RCR car this weekend. Yeah. It's just, yeah. But do you think that fall
off helps him this week? I think that this style of racetrack, all of those things absolutely play
into Kyle Bush's hands, but I'm just, I'm hesitant because new crew chief, I haven't seen. Yeah.
I haven't seen that start to turn the corner just yet. So, you know, again, you know,
you're naming guys that absolutely could go out there and run top 10. That could happen. But
from what I've seen in the first couple of weeks, you know, looking at just basically
Phoenix in this past weekend at Vegas, I'm holding on to my money there.
TJ, I got a question for you on a track. We have all this tire fall off for you as a spotter.
Are you having to do more work looking at lap times and stuff? What's it like for you with
a track like this? Yeah, probably. You definitely probably have a number you look for. And you
don't like Bristol. We had a number when the tires were falling off. We had a number we wanted to
run every lap. And if we knew if we went much faster than that, we might we're going to hurt
tires pretty bad. So there's also a number that you want to, you know, once you dip below,
you're coming to pit road or you thinking about, you know, is there a pace where you're like,
I, we can't afford to stay out on the racetrack. We're bleeding too much time.
Yeah. I think it's a little bit, everything you don't know, but some of them guys are going to
come so early that, you know, I, this is going to open up to strategies like to stop. I mean,
probably what? Easily to stopping a lot of them, right? So Denny and then boys, they like to run
long. Yeah. And there's a lot of guys that's a good strategy this weekend. And with, if there's
a handful of cautions of, I mean, I honestly feel like there could be a lot of cautions
and I feel like we can run out of tires. That's what I'm saying. I feel like maybe going long
and a first, first segment or two, you might lose a few spots on track.
Sounds like must see TV, right? Sounds like this is going to be awesome. Russell, I agree. I'm now
I'm nervous about my tire allotment. You've gotten me nervous. Well, I just think you're
going to have to manage them differently. I was excited about tire fall off, excited about horsepower,
excited about less downforce, anxious about tire allotment. This sounds like a great recipe for
awesome race. The tire allotment can bite you. Yeah. Like pretty bad, especially if there's
like back to back yellows. You're like, no, I don't, I don't, I got, you know, four, three,
three, four laps on them. I can't come down pit road. I don't know if you like, you know the
rule on this too, but like if you have a, say a guy cuts tire and practice, doesn't get to qualify,
he is down that set of scuffs that he would have qualified on. So you're actually down
like another set because you don't make a lap in qualifying. You don't get nothing for it.
So interesting, which could happen as well. Some guys start having problems in practice
or somebody knocks the wall down a little bit or can you buy tires? Rick Ware, line one, you
can't, you can't get any more than they allotted. They used to be him. I mean, back in the day,
you know, I was used to seeing somebody was out, you bought their tires and you had more than you
needed, but sometimes you had them. It's going to be interesting, man. I'm, you know, anything
else we need to cover as far as maybe who might slip in there for a top 10, give me about two
or three names. Maybe you've already mentioned one or two, you know, would you do what's, what's
the odds for, you know, Eric Jones on top 10? They're not out right now, but I would, based
off his win odds, I would definitely place that as soon as it comes out. All right. So Eric Jones
and who else? I like Ryan Priest. He's right back there with Jones and odds. Yeah, she has worse
win odds than Eric Jones. Yeah. Well, you think Russell Priest for a top 10? I don't, I don't mind
Priest. He's running way better than, than he ever has this year. Actually, all those RFK cars are
running really well and they're running all together. Like all the cars are running well
together. Russell, you like college basketball? I do. Yeah. Who you got winning it all this year?
Duke. Duke. Yep. I'm on the Duke train. Are you? Well, a lot of great games
in the first round, a lot of opportunity to do what I love to do, parlay all the heavy favorites,
which I have done. I am loaded. It's a very, it's a very favorite loaded first couple rounds. Last
year, dude, there were hardly any, if at all any upset. I don't, I think it'd be very similar.
Dude, I parlayed anything that was like plus anything that was like a spread of eight and a
half points. Like I parlayed the favorites all together and I never, it did not fail me last
year. It didn't fail me. It was good to us. It was good to us. So I'm going back same
method this year and I'm loaded ready. I like those kind of bets because I
watch it's one bet for, and I'm going to watch a whole day's worth of basketball,
right? And I'm like pulling for every box to get checked. And that's fun for me. That's
how I like to do it. I'm going to do some research and give you some player props.
If you're having fun, it's all a matter. That's right, TJ. Thank you for, thank you for that,
TJ. If you're winning, it's just a bonus. When TJ speaks, it's rare, but when he speaks,
it's knowledge, man. Put it on. Soak it in. All right, man. The dirty mode dose segment is brought
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