The Suzuki Samurai is a small four-wheel-drive vehicle. It’s designed to handle off-road driving better than many regular cars. In the conversation, it’s being referenced as the point where someone arrived during an event or route.
Topic
electric dirt bike ride testing
They’re basically doing a real-world test ride to see how the bike performs. Then the weather (snow) ruins the plan.
Concept
battery range (dirt bike)
They’re checking if the electric dirt bike has enough battery to make it up the hill. In cold or tough conditions, the battery usually doesn’t last as long.
A foot peg is where you put your foot while riding. If it starts scraping/grinding on the ground, it can make the ride harder to control and can wear the bike down.
“Full throttle” just means you press the accelerator all the way to ask for maximum power. Off-road, that helps the vehicle keep moving instead of getting stuck.
Hydraulic systems use special fluid to move power. A hydraulic oil cooler helps keep that fluid from getting too hot, which helps the machine work smoothly and last longer.
Flotation is about how well the vehicle stays up on soft ground instead of sinking. Wider contact (like tracks or big tires) helps spread the weight so it can keep moving.
A mud bog is an off-road situation where cars try to drive through really thick, sticky mud. The tires can sink, so the challenge is not getting stuck and losing traction.
Traction is how much grip the vehicle has on the ground. In mud, the ground gets slippery and soft, so it’s harder for the tires/tracks to grab and keep moving.
Resale value just means what you could sell something for in the future. If something has good resale value, you’re more likely to get a decent amount of your money back.
The Ferrari F40 is a famous, old-school Ferrari supercar. Here they’re talking about how much people pay for one at auction—showing it can be worth millions.
Depreciation means the price of something goes down as time passes. They’re comparing how quickly a Ferrari’s resale value might drop versus the other thing they’re talking about.
Suspension is what helps the car handle bumps. “Suspension technology” means newer designs that help the car stay controlled and stable, especially over rough ground or jumps.
“Sending it” is slang for driving aggressively—often at the limit—such as accelerating hard and committing through a corner or over a jump. In this context, it suggests the driver was pushing the car hard on the track and having fun doing it.
A co-driver is the person riding along to help the driver during a race. They can help with directions and planning so the driver can concentrate on the driving.
A desert race is an off-road race across rough, sandy terrain. It’s not just about going fast—drivers also have to handle the terrain and stay on course.
The pit crew is the group that helps the race car during pit stops. They do fast work like repairs and tire changes so the car can get back out quickly.
A side-by-side is a small off-road vehicle with seats next to each other. It’s often used to get around a rough area or carry stuff where normal cars can’t.
Desert racing is off-road racing across big stretches of sand and dirt. It’s not just about going fast—drivers and co-drivers have to manage navigation and keep the car alive over rough terrain.
Fiberglass is a lightweight material used for some car body panels. Off-road racing is brutal—so fiberglass can crack or fail more easily than tougher body materials.
Trophy trucks are specialized off-road race trucks built for desert racing. They’re made to take huge hits, but even then, the body materials can still fail.
Carbon fiber is a strong, lightweight material used in some performance cars. The claim here is that it tends to hold up better than fiberglass when cars get beat up in races.
A wind screen is a clear or solid shield at the front of the car. It helps protect the driver from debris and harsh airflow—especially when you’re driving off-road.
“Nose heavy” means the car’s front end is carrying more weight than the rear. When you land a jump, that can make the front hit harder and be more likely to get damaged.
The Toyota Supra is a sports car made for fast driving. In desert racing, people talk about whether it can handle rough conditions and still keep working. It’s basically about how well it’s prepared and whether nothing goes wrong.
Suspension travel is how much the suspension can “move” when the wheels hit bumps. If you limit it, the car may ride harsher and lose some grip over rough terrain.
Rebodying is when you change the car’s outer body (the panels/skin) onto the same underlying vehicle. Builders do it to get the right shape for racing and to make repairs easier.
The Willys MB is an old, rugged Jeep that was built for military use. Some owners change the body on these vehicles to make the build easier or to get a different look. The key idea is that it’s a tough platform people like to modify.
The Jeep Wrangler is a four-wheel-drive SUV made for off-road driving. People often modify them with different parts and sometimes even change the body. In the conversation, it’s being used as an example of a Wrangler-based project that someone reworked for easier building.
A Jeep Cherokee is an SUV that’s commonly used for off-road or rough driving. They’re considering it as a starting point for a project, but they don’t think it’s the best choice.
A Mini Cooper is a small car. They’re saying it could be a better starting point for their project because it’s easier to strip down and work on than some other choices.
The MG MGB GT is an older British classic car. They’re saying it might cost more to buy, but if you’re not trying to drive it, the price matters less because you’d mainly use it for the build.
The Audi R8 is a high-end sports car. Here, they’re basically saying that putting an R8 body on a desert-racing project would look cool, but it would take a ton of work and probably wouldn’t be worth it.
Wheelbase is how far apart the front and rear wheels are. It affects the car’s shape and handling, so if you’re building a stunt car body, you need the right wheelbase so it looks and drives correctly.
A “C5 Corvette” is a specific generation of the Chevrolet Corvette. It’s often used for stunts because it’s cheaper and easier to modify than supercars, so filmmakers can crash/destroy it for the movie without losing a fortune.
Prop cars are the cars used in movies for filming scenes. They’re sometimes built on cheaper cars so the filmmakers can do dangerous stunts and not ruin a rare, expensive vehicle.
Car
Koenigsegg Regera
The Koenigsegg Regera is a very expensive, high-performance supercar. The point here is that the movie used cheaper base cars to create Regera-looking stunt cars, since crashing a real one would be too costly.
Drifting is when a car slides sideways on purpose while the driver keeps it under control. It looks cool on camera and doesn’t always require the car to go extremely fast.
Here, “maintenance” means the regular upkeep needed to keep the vehicle running well. Off-road use can wear parts out faster, so upkeep matters more than it does on a normal car.
“Whoops” are those repeated bumps in off-road desert racing. They make the suspension bounce a lot, and if the car can’t handle the bouncing, it can get out of control.
“Cartwheel” is when the vehicle flips over in a violent rollover. It can happen when the bumps make it land wrong and the car can’t stay balanced.
Term
r eight body
“R eight body” sounds like a specific body style or kit. The speaker’s point is that putting that kind of body on a side-by-side for desert racing could be very risky and likely to get wrecked.
“Donuts” are when someone spins the car in circles on purpose, usually by flooring the gas while steering. It looks fun, but it can wear out tires fast.
A skid steer is a small machine used on job sites to move things around. It can turn very sharply because each side can move differently.
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Welcome to the set and bent podcast. Number 76.
We have a really good episode for you guys.
Steven and I hit some roller coasters this weekend.
Ethan made a archeological discovery in the pond and Chris.
That is first Chang Lee dream.
It was more of an entomological discovery in the pond,
but we'll get to that when we get to it. Okay. Cool. Cool. Well,
I don't even know where to start cause, cause maybe just Chris's dream.
Yeah, we should probably, it's pretty hilarious.
We should probably just start with that. Okay.
Well, I dream about Chang Lee's all the time is like a reference.
Yeah, as a reference. Yeah. Well,
this is my first Chang Lee dream for sure. But it's at the end of my dream,
it was the last two. It's also, it's also not,
but it's not your first MTV dream. Oh no, what happened?
I have lots of MTV dreams, but no,
Ethan was working on the MTV all last week. So it's been on my mind.
And, and in my dream,
Ethan was like, I'm sick of this.
I'm sick of this 100 mile challenge thing.
We're going to deal with this once and for all.
So he, he has the snow plow on the MTV. Uh-oh.
And Stephen and I
watch him. He goes up there and he gets in the Chang Lee and he backs it out just a
little bit. My gray one, my new one.
The new one. Oh,
the quote unquote new one. Oh no.
He said, he said that this big, huge smile on his face and he's starting up the
MTV. That sounds pretty realistic.
It's Steven's there with the camera and Ethan starts up the MTV and he heads up
the hill and he drops the snow plow right at the end of just Chang Lee.
And he rolls that Chang Lee all the way around to over where the samurai is
right now. By the time he got there,
it was like one of those pop cans and over there that's totally smashed and
rolled into nothing.
This sounds pretty realistic and then he picks up the plow and then he drives
over it and backs up over it and drives over it again.
Oh, that's funny.
That's awesome. It also sounds a lot like something we're about to do today.
Just with the different Chang Lee, speaking of that Chang Lee, though,
Edwin, um, our friend, uh, Jenna came up to help my wife in the garden.
She had like a garden party this weekend and she brought her kids and, you
know, those kids are, um, a little bit chaotic to say the least out of control.
They just, I forget if Kylie caught them or somebody else, but they just went up
there and got in your Chang Lee and we're going to start driving it around.
No. Yeah. They're like, can we drive it? And I was like, drive what?
They're like one of the little cars and they're pointing at like the woodshed
area kind of. And I was like, none of those work. And they're like, yeah,
they do. And I was like, what are you talking about? They're all broken.
And he's like, no, I, I got in it. It works.
I just moved it like back forward and back a little bit, but it worked.
Can I drive it? And I was like, no, you cannot drive that.
You're going to tip over. It's like two feet wide.
Well, they'd probably drive it better than Edwin. Well, possibly.
I mean, we're talking about an eight year old and a 10 year old.
So I think that's too much power for eight year old.
But anyway, the point is that there is an audience for Chang Lee's and it's
eight year old boys. Yeah. Yeah.
And that's kind of where I am developmentally. So it works out.
Oh, God, I had a my personal quote of the day on the weekend was
I'm just so dumb and I'm not getting any smarter.
And I actually got it on camera because,
you know, Alec and I went up the mountain with the grind hard RTRs
to make like the, putting them to the ultimate test video kind of a thing.
Yeah. And for the people listening that don't know, Alec is like
a way better rider than me.
And he rides like very, very hard and Duro.
Yeah. Like his idea of a good time on a dirt bike is to go find a creek
and just get stuck in it all day. Yeah.
And just ride his bike slash carry it up a creek.
Yeah. So that's essentially what we did for hours because we were going to see
if it had enough battery to make it to the top and like less than half way.
We got snowed out and trudging, trudging through that snow.
There's no way we're going to have the battery and it's just not that much fun.
Right. Riding a dirt bike in snow is not a great time.
But those little tires do cut through on it. Yeah, exactly.
Yeah. I saw, I was like really tired and I saw this YouTube short
and the way it was shot, it looked like it could have been a normal dirt bike.
Like you can't see the ski or anything, but they were in the snow.
I was like, man, these guys are going fast on the snow.
And I was, oh, is this no.
But anyways, we are, we are, you know how every single time I go to film
a video, like especially without you guys, my wife is like no cliffs, right?
Like you're not going to be by any cliffs or like even like on our last road trip,
like no cliffs, right? You guys aren't filming on the edge of cliffs.
There's a reason she checks on you for that. Yeah. Well, yeah, exactly.
So so far, like we have filmed on cliffs,
but I haven't actually ever fallen down a cliff or been all that close.
Right. Well, you know, maybe arguably with Chris driving the samurai
up that really skinny road, but there was that.
That was legitimately hard to see anything going up that you come.
You go be like in the shade and you come around a corner
and it's just full sun through a dirty windshield. Yeah.
And that's me with good eyeballs and it's like only really like one lane.
It's like one and a half cars wide.
Yeah, but it is like you go both ways on it, which I was kind of surprised,
but I mean, it is a tiny little amazing road in the middle of nowhere.
That's like one of my favorite parts of the samurai video.
Yeah, that was one of my favorite parts of the trip.
I found that campsite didn't really look into that road at all.
And then so that was all a surprise.
I was like, oh, this will be a cool spot.
We'll just go up this road and didn't really put anything into thought into it.
But like that was a cool spot. Yeah.
Well, speaking of being in tight spots yesterday,
I had to go over to the what we call the dead horse apple tree.
And what? Oh, no, is the horse buried under it?
Yeah. Yes.
And that's what you do.
You you bury your animals next to the fruit trees.
Oh, does it help the fruit? Oh, yeah.
Fertilizer. Fertilizer.
I don't know about that.
I'll bring you some of the apples, Edwin.
Don't worry, this horse died of natural causes.
It wasn't, you know, like murdered or anything.
It was just a very old horse.
Yeah, I know. But, you know, I guess.
It's horses. It's horses.
Biomaterials are going towards something helpful.
OK, I'm with you.
So anyway, on the way there, I took the chainsaw
and went there on Friday night, but couldn't get across the creek
because there was a big washout.
And so Saturday night, I went back and I took some planks
and I was crossing the creek with the four wheeler and the trailer
and put these planks down
and the planks were barely hanging on the edge.
The other side, like almost like if you jumped up and down on the plank,
it might just fall into the creek.
Yeah, the creek, you know, but I made it across and it was pretty scary.
And and somebody actually got a picture of me going across.
Really? So wait, what were you going out there for again?
We're going to the Dead Horse Apple.
But for what? It's not apple season.
I know, to check the tree and see if it was budding out.
Oh, I see. OK, I just missed that part.
I was like, why were you going to the apple trees?
Yeah, I got you. Oh, man.
No, you know, trim some of the little branches off and prune it and whatnot.
Yeah, OK, I'm with you now.
Well, my tight spot was my own dumb idea.
So I'm with Alec, a lot better rider than be hard to do a rider.
And I take him up to, you know, where we shot the 100
mile challenge thumbnail, that cool rock up there on the mountain.
Yeah, like pretty rough road to get there.
And there's kind of this new hill climb up to it.
Now that they clear cut the front of it.
So we were just ripping through that clear cut and you can see
like boulders like that.
There's much bigger ones that used to be like hidden in the dense trees.
But now even on the little RTRs, we're just rolling right up
to these crazy big boulders, huge.
They're called glacial erratics because the glaciers just leave them there
when they melt. But yeah, massive boulders in the middle of a field.
Like so big, they even look big on camera.
Big. Yeah, you can see them from the road.
Like if not even in there, like just on the way to the property,
you just look out there like half a mile away.
There's just 20 foot tall boulder in the middle of a field.
Yeah, exactly.
So we're just cutting through, finding these rocks, going up and down them.
And then we find this one like super cliffy one.
That's like three staircases of boulders that are like
just somewhat close enough where if you're kind of dumb, you'd try to go down it.
And I see.
And so Alec and I cut up, we get to the top of the first one
and he was like, oh, this is like really, really great.
Like too bad we shouldn't go down it because it's like covered in moss.
And I was like, I think it'd be fine.
Oh, no.
So Alec, the way more experienced rider who literally does Harden Drow
exclusively is like, I don't think we should try this.
You're like, it'll be fine.
Oh, here comes a quote of the day again.
Exactly. This is this is what made me say that.
So at the first like down little spot goes pretty well.
Like I'm on the brakes, on the brakes when I catch the moss and, you know,
the brakes aren't doing anything.
I'm kind of like off on, off on, off on, slow down before the edge of that cliff.
And then the next one, I'm cutting across it diagonally and it's not as mossy.
And I'm like, oh, this is pretty dumb.
I'm literally saying it out loud.
This is pretty dumb.
I shouldn't go down this rock diagonally after the wife said, no cliffs, no.
So this is probably like four foot to the next rock I'm trying to ride down onto.
And then the edge of that rock is like 15 foot down straight down on one side
and like 30 feet on the other side.
And I'm cutting across diagonally right above it.
And so I start sliding and I'm like, oh, that's not a big deal.
Like I can all slide and then land sideways.
But my foot peg started grinding down.
So I picked up speed and I fell directly onto the rock face first, did one roll
and ended up with my hands on the edge of the cliff, like a cartoon.
You have this on camera, right?
Yeah, I need to see that.
Yeah, that's funny.
Yeah, it's in the last video.
But, um, but yeah, so I'm I'm sitting there and Alec is like, dude,
you literally called it because I was like, I shouldn't be doing this diagonally.
Of course, Alec goes down, he, he switches up, goes up, goes straight down
and then just plops down onto the rock, like with both tires, like right.
Yeah, like you would and that's when you said I'm so dumb
and I'm not getting any smarter.
Yeah, that's exactly it.
It seems like an appropriate time to say that this happened on Saturday.
But no, this was on on Thursday or the day that I wasn't here.
Yeah, last week, so yeah, that was my, my main dumb moment, 100 percent
self-caused could have been a lot worse.
Well, well, my, my dumb moment slash also the entomological discovery that
they're, you know, related.
Oh, really?
Yeah, so I was doing some work with the skid steer on the rally track
and, you know, I filled in where I had that trench dug and I put in the pipe
and stuff, filled that in and I was working around that new little, you know,
drainage pond there with the skid steer and I was like, you know, going down
to the edge of it and scooping up some of the mud and then dumping it somewhere
else. Well, I went down a little bit too far and then, you know, I couldn't go
back up the hill with the skid steer.
So I just ended up in the pond and I just went full throttle through it.
Really?
In the skid steer.
Yeah, the skid steer.
So like I could tell by that point, like I'd been in and out of the edge of it
enough that I knew that it wasn't bottomless mud.
It's just like a foot and a half deep mud, but underneath that, the ground is
solid. So I could tell that.
And I was like, well, I can't back up.
So the best, best course is to just go through and out the other side.
Like what?
Three feet deep now.
Yeah.
Give or take.
I mean, it's mostly not full of water that now there's hardly any water in it.
It's just mud in the bottom, but yeah.
So I, I, for a minute there, I was afraid it might be stuck in the middle
of that pond for a while, but so I managed to just, yeah, I just, you know,
full throttle and there's, it's surprising what you can do with a hundred
horsepower and a skid steer and tracks and just full blast with it.
And then up the other side.
Really?
Yeah.
Wow.
I would have thought it would have been so muddy and loose in there.
You would have.
No, just well, cause the tracks, they just sink down to the bottom of the mud
and then underneath there, it's still like it's undisturbed ground.
So it's like dirt, you know, it's everything down there at the bottom
is very, very rocky once you go down far enough.
So if you get past the mud, once you get past the mud, it was once a
creek bottom, you know, a few hundred thousand years ago or whatever.
Yeah.
So anyway, once you get down to that, it's pretty solid.
It's just getting up the other side where it's just, it's the slimmiest
mud ever too.
So getting up the other side with tracks covered in slimy mud.
So that was my dumb situation.
But the interesting thing is I was sitting in there and I was sitting in
the skid steer about to take a scoop of mud out of the edge of the pond.
And I looked down and there was this little thing wiggling around down
there in the mud and it was something I've never seen before.
It looks like a giant cockroach.
Like from a distance looks just like, I mean, it's like three inches long.
That's a Jurassic Park bug.
Yeah.
I'll pull it up on my phone and we can, it's called giant water beetles.
Exactly.
But I've never seen one or heard of it.
So here's the picture.
I sent this to the group chat.
It looks like an Egyptian, uh, like a scarab beetle.
Yeah.
A bit.
Um, so it looks freaky as heck.
The picture does not show you how big it is.
I mean, it's like the size of this window crank that I made.
It's like three inches long.
Yeah.
They're huge.
They're big, massive.
And it's got, and they swim and they fly.
That's the crazy part.
I was getting to that.
So they're aquatic.
They live in the water.
They eat small fish snails, they eat small fish and snails.
They're mainly carnivorous.
They literally are fish power.
Yeah.
They're called, um, they're called giant water bugs, which is about the most
uninteresting name you could possibly imagine.
But their colloquial name is toe biter.
Yikes, because when they bite things that have shells, like little water snails
and stuff, they inject them with a paralyzing saliva that liquefies them
from the inside out, they liquefy their prey with their saliva.
So when they bite you, it hurts unbelievably bad.
I have to look all this up.
I'd never heard of them before.
So like I typed into Google, like giant aquatic beetle that looks like a cockroach.
What is this thing?
It's like, how do I even Google this?
Anyway, but yeah, so that's what they're called.
And, and, but the crazy thing is they also fly.
Like, are they an invasive species?
I've never seen one here before.
No, I think they're just not common.
Oh, I think they actually, when I, I, we had them at the farm a lot when I was a
kid, and they would come out one or two times a year for the mating.
And when those things are flying around, they sound like a helicopter.
I bet.
Yeah, I went through like the same journey Ethan did last year because I
found one and I've been in the woods a lot, like up weird creeks and all that
stuff.
So I had the same thing.
I'm like, what is this?
So I took pictures of it.
And my approach was, I just posted it on my Instagram.
It was like, anybody know what the species is and multiple messages like,
don't get bit.
Like, and it was really funny because I was with my friend taking portraits
over and I was like, oh, you should pose with that beetle.
If you're not too afraid of it, like it's probably completely harmless.
Come to find out they have, yeah, really painful liquefying poison bite.
Yeah, it doesn't, it's not.
Well, let me phrase it the way that the Google summary said an intensely
painful, but not lethal bite.
If the word lethal is even mentioned in the bite, that probably means it
hurts a lot.
Did you really not get bit?
Yeah.
I didn't even get out of the skid steer.
I was never gonna get bit.
I didn't mess with it.
I just did a picture of it, but have you been bit by him, Chris?
No, as you grew up with them.
Well, no, because we had a lot of water around the farm there.
You know, we had three big ponds in the creek that ran all the way through.
And yeah, this, you could see them a lot of times in the creek, but they can
swim really fast and they, they don't want anything to do with you.
They swim right away from you.
Oh, okay.
The reason that they've thrived so well in the creek was because of all
the snails and the little crawdads in the creek and they, they love the crustaceans.
Me too.
It's literally a water crustacean that eats other crustaceans.
Basically, no, no, it's not a crustacean.
It's a bug.
And they're huge.
Yeah.
Anyway, really big.
Yeah, I, I'd never heard of one of those before, but, but yeah, when I got out of
there with the skid steer, I finished, you know, what I was doing down there.
And then I had to spend about an hour pressure washing it because I mean, it's
always covered with mud and a lot of the mud I washed off was just like months
of accumulation on the tracks and stuff, but the mud in there was so deep.
It went in the back of the skid steer through the radiator or not.
Well, the through the oil cooler, the hydraulic oil cooler, hydraulic radiator.
It went through the grill for that and like half filled the engine compartment
with mud. So I was like, oh, I need to wash this out before it dries.
So then I probably washed a thousand pounds of mud off of that thing because
like it's been really muddy this year.
And I spent a lot of time down there working in the mud and like the little
bits of grass roots and like twigs and stuff.
Yeah.
Mix in with the mud and turn it into basically like reinforced cement.
Yeah, reinforced.
Yeah.
So like on the, on the tracks between the top layer of the track and the bottom,
there's, you know, the rail that supports everything.
And it's designed like to be pretty tapered and slopey so that the, you know,
dirt falls off of it, but that mud just built up.
I mean, it was a foot thick of mud in some places.
Like I had to just use the pressure washer, like a saw and like spend a minute
just cutting through it and then kick it out.
You probably could have built something with those.
Yeah, you could like make them into bricks and build a house.
It's very great track support, though.
I guess.
Probably not great for the bearings.
No, but pretty good track support.
Yeah.
That is awesome.
I can't believe you just drove straight through it.
Oh yeah.
If you would have said, do you think my skid steer could drive straight
through the pond?
Like no problem.
I feel like absolutely not.
Cause I just know like heavy things you don't want to put in the mud.
No, not at all.
Skid steer is what?
Like 12,000 pounds.
Yeah.
Give or take.
Well at 13, because I had a thousand pounds of mud on it.
Wow.
That's nuts.
Well, the weight probably helps it get a little traction too.
When it does get to that solid, well, yeah, I mean, yeah, yeah.
And I mean, given that it's tracks, if that helps a lot too, because if you
went in there, something with tires, even though the bottom is relatively solid,
you'd still just dig a hole and sink the tracks.
At least they have good flotation.
If the ground is reasonably solid, but anywhere around here, you can go, you
you can go down 10 feet, some places and you're still going to hit gravel and rock.
More like that.
Right.
Where they do the mud bogs.
It's just like it's just infinite.
Sill.
Oh, yeah.
I don't know.
I haven't ever been to the moye mud bogs, but I hear it's deep, deep.
No doubt.
That's also a manufactured mud pit to some extent.
So really?
Yeah.
I mean, all mud bogs are in a somewhat manufactured mud pit, you know, like
they dig a hole and fill it with mud.
I mean, oh, interesting.
Or take a hole and fill it with water and let it turn into mud.
Very few of them actually just happen in a naturally occurring swamp.
Well, Ben said that since moye is so muddy that like downstream from
moye is where he like goldmines sometimes because like all the soot gets
ran through the creeks after moye, right?
Like there's all those mining claims.
Remember, I'm talking specifically about that with moye, but yeah, there's
there's something to that, but yeah, interesting, interesting.
Well, this weekend was opening weekend of the local theme park.
So Steven and I went to ride roller coasters, which you wouldn't think
that local to us would be anything at all in terms of amusement park.
No, but it happens to be the biggest one in the entire Northwest.
Yeah, yeah, by a pretty significant margin.
It's actually kind of good, which you grow up here and you don't really
think about that.
But like, yeah, people will travel from like Canada, Oregon.
Like people come from the coast.
Yeah, because there's just not another good like amusement park in
Washington, Oregon or Idaho.
I mean, it's the only one, right?
Yeah, but and so we were ready to rip opening weekend.
It was half off, perfect weather, not a lot of people there.
We're just lap and roller coasters.
But on the way there, M's quote of the day, which is probably one
of these first time ever sentences.
How do you brand new sentence that it's a Reddit forum and yeah, we have
a lot of every week we have a new entry, but yeah, at least one.
So we're there and she was like, we're driving there and she was
like, hmm, the last time I rode a roller coaster besides ours was when we
were in Vegas and we did the one in the hotel or whatever.
Right.
And I was just laughing so hard because I'm like, that has to be a brand new
sentence.
I was I was making a joke this morning.
Stephen was talking about you guys going there and he was like just he's
like, oh yeah, Edwin probably only went because it was like half off day.
Just, you know, being silly and I was like, yeah, it's hard to justify
spending money on a roller on a ticket to buy to ride someone else's roller
coaster when you have one in your backyard.
Exactly.
Exactly.
It's actually, I have two life goals now.
I'll get to one later.
But one of them is that my backyard roller coaster shows up on Google
Earth when they do the update satellite view, man.
You just see a roller coaster in someone's yard.
That'd be a make your little one is big enough, but like I just, I
root for you, like some variation of the future to have like some weird
looping roller coaster and like some acreage somewhere.
Yeah.
Like maybe Ethan's mountain.
No, if you want to fill with roller coasters.
No, we we've talked about this and I'm open to the idea of the roller
coaster being there, but only if it's a very set period of time.
It has to be there and then be gone within the same calendar year.
It cannot live there forever.
That's kind of hard because Edwin couldn't do that on his own property.
But yeah, exactly.
Well, we'll, we'll figure something else out when it comes to that.
But one of the craziest things to me is we have like a brand new patented
design roller coaster there that was last year, two years ago came there.
It's like three years ago.
Now the stunt pilot, the R and C was the type of track called it's a single
rail and they they painted the design for it, but that company is also right
here in Idaho and you wouldn't really think that it's because they they're
like one of the top three world class roller coaster manufacturers based out
of the same. Yeah.
Well, Athol, but yeah, yeah, like it's kind of weird as state of the art.
All kinds of loop-de-loops one track and you're in like a one seat thing.
And like when you're sitting in the front, all you see is one little track
in front of you just going like all over the place, super fast, super smooth,
like state of the art and we were in line and I was like, man, because, you know,
I'd I'd bought a few roller coasters in my day.
So I was like, Stephen, how much do you think this roller coaster is?
And you looked it up.
It's between five and 10 million.
I don't know if that includes the installation cost or whatever.
But like it's really not that much.
It's in the scheme of what the scheme of how much those things are.
State of the art, brand new patent on a, you know, I thought I just figured it
would be so many more millions than that.
But it got me thinking.
People spend that much money on cars.
How dumb is that?
I was just like, OK, so the fact that
people will spend like 15, 20 million dollars on a lake house.
And yet to my knowledge, there's no one out there buying their own private
roller coasters of any scale.
Like I'm not saying that's money that any of us will ever have.
But there's so many people in the world to whom 10 million dollars is pocket change.
Yeah. None of them have roller coasters.
I know. That's a really good point.
I gave this some thought and I think there's a few reasons for that.
I think those manufacturers, even if you had cash in hand, aren't going to sell it
to a just private user.
I think you're going to need to prove that you might just have to pay a little
overpriced possibly, but imagine the risk to their brand image.
If somebody like Edwin owned it.
Yeah, but but I think the more important reason is that people with that kind
of money don't generally throw it away.
They put it in things that they think are going to increase in value.
Like my rare cars, rare cars, art, that kind of thing.
I mean, I'm not saying none of them throw money away, but like a roller coaster
resale value for a used private roller coaster is probably not much.
Well, that's why our local theme park ended up with some roller coasters that
other parks were like, we don't want anything to do with this.
Yeah. Yeah.
Well, another thing that makes it even crazier that less people buy roller coasters.
You were talking about this
park in Florida that made the investment in Harry Potter and they paid it back.
Yeah. So it was something like I'll probably get these numbers wrong a little
bit, but I think they invested about five billion into the park construction.
One billion of that was just allocated towards one little world, one little like
Harry Potter ride, one billion dollars.
That's a bike one.
No, it's the Ministry of Magic.
It's like some animatronic arm that carries you through and it's it's incredible.
A billion on just about a billion.
And these numbers are all kind of hearsay because it's like people
speculating a little bit and they haven't like, you know, broke it down like that.
So I don't know if that billion dollars was just for the ride or for the whole land.
I would speculate more towards the rough numbers, but there's only one attraction
there. Yeah. And that park, I think in their first quarter,
turned to profit.
That's insane in the first quarter.
That is absolutely not kind of hard to believe.
And I mean, it is. I mean, it's not hard to believe when a fricking Pepsi is
$15 and a burger is 25.
You're paying like $18 for a 7-Eleven hot dog.
Yeah, like it's pretty bad, but this paid it back like because of the extra
traffic from from the Harry Potter themes.
Yeah. So to me, I was I was just going through my head and I'm like,
why don't more people buy roller coasters?
Like you said, there's a lot of people that can afford it.
Like yeah, and it seems like a pretty good investment,
but only if you're an amusement park that has the like image and insurance and
everything else, like setting up an amusement park is presumably an insane
amount of work. Well, people that are buying these Ferraris don't have racing
teams. Yeah, but you could put a Ferrari in a garage and it'll gain value.
Just sitting there. An amusement park.
You have to hire a team of people to run it.
You have to manage it.
You have to buy the land to put it on.
It was a little more of an active investment.
Something I think about the point is at that point, you're just starting
another amusement park. You're not a random individual buying a roller coaster.
You're just so why wouldn't you would rather have your own amusement park
than a garage? There probably are people that do.
They just buy one.
They just buy the whole park ready built, you know, like at that level.
It is also a little easier to store and keep a Ferrari.
Exactly. For example, like a rare Ferrari than it is.
Yeah. And imagine the liability too.
I was thinking about this yesterday.
Also, our local theme park really likes to hire teenagers.
It's an awesome first job for those people, but they're like, imagine being 15 years old
and you're the guy pushing the button, operating the roller coaster and checking
the restraints. What kind of liability is that for the park?
The insurance has to be through the roof, probably insane.
But so these factors aside, like as far as business and money goes, because
a lot of people buy a real expensive flashy car, it loses money, they crash it,
they sell it, whatever.
People make dumb decisions with their money.
Yeah. So there's also people spending millions of dollars on cars, like
like cars that are depreciating as well.
Yeah. So or, you know, they buy a really expensive boat and then sink it.
Exactly. Exactly.
So let's talk as a very wealthy person, bang for your buck.
Enjoyment value, not worried about is this car going to go up or down, right?
Yeah. Here's some numbers for you.
So this amazing roller coaster with all the loop-de-loops, five to 10 million,
right, is the best we could find.
So the there's recent Ferrari F40 auctions.
The most recent one was February 27th, 2026 for five million two hundred and
thirty thousand dollars.
Yup. For an F40.
And so then there's the significantly more rare,
admittedly, admittedly, extremely cool car, the Ferrari F50.
Most recent auction, January 30th, 2026, 9.2 million.
That's ridiculous. That's crazy.
So this one roller coaster cost between one of those two cars.
Yeah. Think of the enjoyment value,
the actual value of like physical steel and like you could rent it out to let
people ride, you could sell it to a theme park, like the actual value of that.
Roller coaster, the engineering.
Oh, yeah. How much fun it is that the dollar per
like not subjective value, but objective value is absolutely
insanely, unbelievably stupid.
And also, like if you're a publicly operating park, even if you're privately
owned, whatever, like the enjoyment is spread between thousands and thousands
and thousands of people, even if it's not.
OK, I'll argue at this point in both ways, because I think it's entertaining.
On the one hand, let's say you're, you know, Zuckerberg or something.
You don't even have to be that rich.
But just an example of somebody who's like relatively young and obscenely wealthy.
Yeah.
You probably want to impress all your other rich friends and show them that you're
the richest and they all have F 40s already.
Also, exactly.
So more importantly, your F 40 one, if you drive it ever, yeah, it depreciates.
Every single mile you put on it lowers its value.
Yeah. The miles on these, like these are obviously extremely good low conditions.
So and those are the ones that depreciate the most.
Like if you drive it, yeah, if you already have one that's high miles,
you're not depreciating like percentage wise as much.
But yeah, yeah.
Every single time you drive the Ferrari, it goes down in value.
The roller coaster, not so much.
It's going to lose X amount of value per year or whatever.
But like only when like the newer technology comes out, which only happens
like every decade. Well, not even necessarily that.
Just like in theory, the person in the used roller coaster market is going to pay
more for a newer one, regardless of technology, simply based on usage.
Yeah. But here's the thing.
In an F 40 at best, you get to internet,
take yourself and one other person.
If you're driving other than that, it's eye candy and a six pack of beer.
Well, you're not entertaining the beer.
The beer is part of the entertainment.
I know, but you can fit that, isn't it?
No, I'm not talking about what you can fit.
I'm talking about how many people you can entertain a roller coaster.
You could have a party at your, you know, mansion, wherever.
Two cars of 10 people each.
Exactly. You could be running them at the same time.
You can have 20 of your tech friends
all riding in the roller coaster.
Yeah. And that's
I, you know, I don't see how that's not activity to do with the six pack.
Exactly. You could also be very intoxicated
while riding a roller coaster and be fine.
So yeah, that's the argument for owning a roller coaster as a rich person.
I kind of hope it becomes a trend.
That'd be hilarious.
It's like Bezos opens his third private roller coaster.
This is what I think, right?
You got the watch, you got the boat, you got the F40.
I mean, some of these guys have multiple.
Why not a roller coaster?
Nobody's got it.
And like, if you're like, obviously, you're trying to signal something.
That's the whole point of everything that rich people buy is to prove
to someone else that they're richer.
So why don't they have giant single track, rail, beautiful roller coasters
sticking out of their house?
Yeah, like also that.
I mean, you could build an insanely cool house around a roller coaster.
It could go through your living room.
You could like it could be your couch and you could just terrorize people
because they could sit down on your couch.
You push a button, the restraints come down in the couch,
launches zero to 100 miles an hour in two seconds.
Like I just I just can't believe it doesn't already exist.
I agree. But on the other hand, talking about enjoyment,
let's say you're not quite going to F 40, F 50 territory with your cars.
But let's say you have like five of them to equal the same value.
Uh-huh.
If you drive that car every time you drive it, you can go somewhere new
and or in new conditions.
You can take it to a new track.
You can go on a new road.
You can whatever the roller coaster is going to be the exact same ride every
single time and I don't know about everybody else.
I'm guessing just based on appearances that people with that much money get
bored with things pretty quickly because they're constantly buying new things.
So the roller coaster for me would be fun about five times ever.
If that right, that's because you've never owned a roller coaster.
No, it's because I get bored with everything.
I ran your roller coaster once.
I was at your party.
I wrote it once and I was like, that's enough.
But this is this is what I think like as a roller coaster owner is
so another brand new sentence every time you have a new person over,
it just gets better because you know that is with them and like like even random
people like, um, uh, I don't know are, um,
you know, your your, uh, your plumber or like our, our, uh, our driveway needs to
be sprayed with this stuff or whatever.
So it doesn't crack in the summer.
I, you know, that like, like the driveway guy comes over and then he's like,
what the heck is going on back there?
And you're like, yeah, I like give it a shot.
You know, like my, you know, my wife had the book club and the book club
girls were like that would bring me so much more joy than a car.
I 100% agree.
My roller coaster was like basic.
It was like, I mean, with tariff and shipping, like, uh, six to 7,000.
Yeah.
So like, you couldn't even get a car worth like, Hey,
Steven, want to come over and drive my $6,000?
Cheap convertibles.
The other day, I was going to say, we're the wrong people for that comparison
because Ethan and I constantly find cars for like five grand that would be
actually really good.
No, but, um, I get your point.
So if you're like, like great Gabsby, like of 2026 should have an RMC
roller coaster in his mansion.
I agree.
I think Bezos and Elon and all of them should have one.
We're not doing it.
We don't know that they don't literally don't have anything cool.
Elon doesn't even own a house.
He sold it all in rents, apartments in Texas and Southern California might
have a roller coaster somewhere.
We don't know.
He's pretty.
He definitely does.
But some of them about things he doesn't actually, it would be such a meme
if Musk had a roller coaster.
He'd be like, Oh, Elon, if you ever listened to this podcast, buy a roller coaster.
Let's roll with you.
Level up, bro.
But yeah, no, I 100% agree about the like entertaining your friends.
And that was my first point was about that.
But I just mean like as a, if you're into it for purely yourself, the Ferrari
is fun every time because you can go somewhere different.
The roller coaster would get boring real quick unless you have friends
over to enjoy it with you.
Yeah.
So along these lines, my favorite part of going to the theme park yesterday
with Edwin was I was like, Edwin, how much does one of those cost in Alibaba?
And he had the numbers memorized.
Now you can get one of those for about 160 on Alibaba.
Yeah.
All the like little smaller rides.
Like don't ride.
So seriously, Edwin, how many times have you ridden your roller coaster?
Mine?
Yes.
Oh, I used to ride it every day before we had to take it down because we moved.
Edwin's an anomaly, Chris.
The rest of us get bored of things.
Edwin does not.
No, I'd go out there do laps in like even his Chang Lee, which is the
slowest thing ever.
Cause just keep going.
The, so my morning routine when we lived there and we had the roller coaster
was I'd wake up, make him cough, make him tea.
Coffee's too strong for her.
I make my coffee.
I'll have my coffee.
I'll con her into pedaling me up the roller coaster for a couple laps and then
carry on with my day.
And then in the afternoons, like if someone came over, we'd do a couple
laps, like, you know, those kinds of things.
And then in the winter, I was like, you know, kept taking the snow off the
track and like, I do want to figure out a way where I can ride it myself when
it's set up in the garage, but, but, um, so you don't have to have her pelly up.
Yeah, I wrote it well over a hundred times.
Like for sure.
I mean, the, even just the first like couple of weeks of having it, like I
wrote it a lot testing it at your roller coaster party.
We did, uh, we, you wrote, you got into the cart and like five of us got there
to shove you up the hill at full speed.
Yeah.
And we did like what, how many, how many we could do in five minutes, I
think, but it was a ridiculous number.
It was a ridiculous number.
It was like 30 something.
It was stupid.
And now I have another one and I'm going to converge the track.
So it's going to be a lot more fun too.
So it's the same track with and like gauge, so to speak.
But this one has a taller lift hill and it goes underneath itself twice.
That'll probably be, that's really how many feet of track you think it'll be
when it's all put together.
Cause like maybe close to a thousand cause the new one is twice the size is the
old one and I'm combining them both together.
And plus it seems like a lot cause that last one was only probably like a
hundred, a hundred, a hundred and fifty.
Yeah.
Maybe it was a pretty small loop.
Yeah.
Okay.
So even if the other ones twice that it's only like, yeah, if you combine
both the tracks, but you won't cause you're just going to use little pieces,
right?
No, I'm doing all of it plus extra pieces to make it work.
It could get, I mean, minus the second lift hill, cause you're only going to
have one lift hill.
No, I'm going to combine them.
Oh, you're going to have two lift hills.
Yeah.
I'm going to make the first one drop enough to get you onto the second one.
So you click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click.
And the new one is eight and a half or nine feet tall.
Plus the other one was like five something almost six feet tall.
So adjacent to, adjacent to owning a roller coaster and enjoying it with your friends.
My version of that is the side by side that we bought earlier this year.
Oh, yeah, because it is hilarious having that around it to being able to just like
take people for a ride because like we have a lot of things like that, but
usually they're either too broken or too sketchy or they're a one seater.
So like the K truck, for example, for a long time, like that's something I could
take people around in, but it's also really slow and it's really easy to roll.
So like you can have a little bit of fun, but you can't do much.
The side by side is incredibly safe.
It always works and it's also the fastest thing we own.
Yeah, and I can hear it from my house.
Yeah, Chris.
So the aforementioned kids that were trying to drive the Chang Lee, they really
wanted to drive something and I was like, well, I'll compromise.
I'll take you for a ride in something because they're a bit young to be driving
anything that exists here.
If we had a stock power wheels, that'd be great for them.
No, there's there's an in between.
Like if we had a slow four wheeler or something that anyway.
So I took them both on rides.
And the funny thing is they were significantly less impressed than any
adult that I've taken for a ride.
Really?
They don't have any context.
Yeah.
First kids are pretty like they just trust.
Well, yeah, they're fearless and they trust people.
Like they just assume you're not going to crash.
Yeah, adults have seen crashes enough to be like, Oh, no, you know, and they
just don't have any context.
Like they've never ridden anything adjacent to that, aside from like a slow
four wheeler or whatever.
So anyway, they were like, Oh, that was kind of scary, but it was fun.
You know, like pretty average basic reaction to being yeeted around the
property at like 50 miles an hour and hitting jumps.
But then on Sunday, Aza came over to help me with the house and for context, if
anyone doesn't know the story, Aza and I grew up on this road together.
I've known him for longer than anyone, but my mom and sister.
Anyway, so and me.
Yeah, but yeah, I guess the same, same amount of time give or take, but I
spent time with Aza hanging out before I really ever spent time at the shop.
He and I hung out before we both started hanging out at the shop.
Significantly, not anyway.
And also over the years, doesn't matter.
The point is day one, Chris, I guess you're the day to yeah.
Anyway, the point is we've known each other for forever and so he was here
helping me with the tile in the bathroom and we got to a point like three o'clock.
It was like, do we mix up another bucket of mortar and then be here for like
another two hours or do we just call it a day?
I was like, yeah, we'll just call it a day.
So then since it was nice out and still early in the day, I was like, well,
we ought to take the side by side for a rip around the track because Aza's never,
you know, written in it.
He wrote in the giveaway one that we had last summer, the Polaris, but the
we're also kind of being a little easy to that one.
I didn't want to bend it up exactly.
Also, that one was a four seater.
It was absolutely enormous in comparison.
Like it just yeah, especially for our track, it was incredibly good.
And like for most people, it's probably a better machine, but it's way less
nimble and heavier and so it's power to weight ratio is not as good.
Anyway, it's not a race car.
So I took Aza for a couple laps and, you know, unsurprisingly, Aza wasn't
like terrified as some people have been like traumatized by it, but he doesn't
show it even if you know, but he was like, you know, like the guys who won the
last giveaway that you took in there, they were like, that was the crazy
and they just sat there in it for like five minutes.
They're just like, oh my God, what just happened?
You know, it was just a lot like me.
He's just very logical about things.
He's like, oh yeah, he's like, wow, it's really amazing how far
suspension technology has come.
And you know, like that type of reaction, but he'd say that while
you're doing like 55 miles an hour, like toward a jump.
He's like, wow, this is very nice.
But so I always say that Aza's like he was born like 50 years old.
You know, he's just one of those people that like is very chill.
He has the attitude of somebody much older than him and he always has had that.
So it's like, it's pretty hard to get him very excited about stuff.
And like it's been years when we were teenagers, we used to ride dirt
bikes all the time and stuff like that, but it's been years since he really
like was into anything fast, but he's also one of the best drivers I know.
So I was like, after we ripped it around for a bit and I could tell
he was excited about it, I was like, yeah, you drive.
And so he got in and I was actually surprised because he hasn't really
been doing anything fast in a long time.
Like he was driving it around the track almost as fast as I would.
Wow, like not quite, but like he was he was actually sending it.
And I was like, nice, he's actually having a blast.
And that led me to a thought, which is I've been trying to think about
if we actually do a desert race, I need a good co-driver and none of us makes sense.
You guys need to be running the cameras.
Chris probably would be very uncomfortable after a while and he'd rather drive.
Anyway, he's also, he also drives very slow.
Chris could drive the support vehicle down there, the MTV.
I'm the chase guy.
I do the chasing.
Yeah, he can be the pit crew, the chase truck.
Anyway, yeah, Chris and I will take the ambulance with a side by side on the back.
We'll be the delivery men exactly.
So, but I never considered it before because is this just been, I don't know,
like we we only really hang out when we're working on something together and
like for years he hasn't been that into fast things, but seeing him drive it and
ride in it with me.
I was like, oh, is it would be perfect?
One, we have history.
We've known each other for, you know, most of 30 years.
Yeah, trust each other.
Yeah, but more importantly, yeah, more importantly,
he's also an excellent driver.
So if need be, he could drive.
He's also an excellent mechanic and figuring out of things, you know,
problem solver.
That's the word I'm looking for, but also he's very calm.
He doesn't get worked up.
So like having that in the passenger seat would be perfect because
yeah, with all the race pressure, yeah, and he could just be reading the map
and being like, oh, yeah, we need to take a left here.
You might want to speed up two miles an hour for this.
You know, like he could be very calm and logical while also going, you know,
80 miles an hour across the desert.
So it's funny.
It never occurred to me till I was riding in the thing with him driving.
I was like, oh, obvious answer for a co-driver for desert racing.
We got the full race team.
We're ready.
Yep.
Yeah, we do.
There we go.
But now we just have to go race.
Also, every time I drive that thing, I want to cut it up less.
I'm like, man, it's just so good.
I was like, it's too good to turn into the RA.
Also, I was thinking, I was telling Aza about that concept and we're talking
about the desert racing and all that.
And I was like, the problem is, as cool as it would be to go do a desert
race with an R8 looking side by side, that would just be a guaranteed
destruction of the body.
It's not like maybe it's just this is going to be the end of the body.
Like it will not survive the race, even if you don't roll it.
No, just it will not serve.
Like just the fiberglass is chintzy.
I'm saying there's there's like a 10% chance it might survive, but fiberglass
bodies on trophy trucks almost never survive the race like carbon fiber
bodies. You're going to hit a cactus or a rock or somebody is going to bump
to pass you or sites.
What happens when you hit a cactus without a wind screen?
You get annihilated.
I've seen videos of drivers just completely covered head to toe with
cactus. That sounds like worse than anything I can imagine.
Absolutely atrocious.
Needle being in my bed.
Yeah.
So anyway, the point is you'd have to be really gentle on also that body
isn't designed for racing whatsoever.
So like the approach into part triangles are terrible.
All you'd have to do to destroy the front is just land a jump a little bit
nose heavy right front of that pure annihilation in front of that.
And like aside from all of that, like just the pure violence of 400 miles
of desert racing on fiberglass, like if you had it mounted well enough,
it might survive if everything went well, but it's like a 90% count on
everything going on in the desert racing.
So I was like, well, especially just for us, like because of the way we are,
because that's a one of one body.
It's one of seven ever built.
And presumably it's the only one that is in private ownership out of the
entire fast and furious franchise.
So like we can't replace it.
Oh, that's a good point.
Unless we built a mold and then wanted to, like you could use it to build
another mold, but that's an insane amount of work.
Oh, I know.
I'll just get an R eight and then we'll just mold my R eight.
Oh yes.
No, well, it'd be much easier to mold the already fiberglass body.
It's a perfect mold for itself.
That's true, but yeah.
So does that mean that you've come up with a different idea for that body?
Or I mean, I've been wanting one anyways.
I'll take one for the team.
He doesn't want to know.
I'm just saying he doesn't want to cut that one up and put the body on.
That's what I'm saying is like, I think that that, but I also don't know what
the answer is because racing a stock side by side is the most boring thing in history.
That's the thing.
We got to do a race, but like we got to get people to actually watch it.
Right.
And just racing a stock side by side, like that's what everybody does.
And it makes sense.
It's the best bang for your buck in existence in terms of off-road vehicles
and especially to enter races.
But yeah, but we got to get you in a race somewhere in a race.
So born to raise the point is I don't know what the answer is.
Like I still think it'd be really cool to chop that up and put the R eight body
on it, but I'm also like the R eight body isn't going to be able to make use
of the capability of that machine to its full extent.
Like we'll probably have to limit the suspension travel by at least a couple
inches to make the body fit.
So I'm like, well, why do we should have, why don't we just find another one?
We just get a stock one.
Exactly.
But then this question remains.
What do we do with that one to make it cool for racing?
Yeah.
And maybe the answer is we find a body that's incredibly cheap and mass
produced and rebody it with something that's a little bit less difficult to
rebody. Like there's some, there's a guy that rebodied one with a Willy's jeep
wagon body. It was at the mats off road games.
That's super cool.
I mean, that one wouldn't necessarily make sense for what we're trying to do,
but like if we rebodied with something that there's replaceable bodies,
replacement bodies and or starts as a metal body because a metal body.
If you dent it, you can either replace it or fix it.
Fiberglass becomes dust.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Fiberglass is, I mean ours is literally a movie prop.
So, right.
And regardless of, regardless of whether or not we chop up that side by side or a
different one to 50 r eight body, like that's fine because we can also chop that
one up and then get a different race one or get an actual race car.
That's a Baja bug or whatever.
Do we have to, do we have to find something like that?
Or can we get something else?
Like say an older Jeep Cherokee or something like that?
I mean, I wouldn't, I wouldn't choose a Jeep Cherokee, but yeah, to use that
concept. Yeah, absolutely.
That's what I was saying.
It's like use a mini Cooper.
Yeah.
A mini Cooper or like preferably something a little older because there's less
crap that you have to like work through to get it, you know, like all the plastic
off.
Um, but like, you know, uh, an MGB GT or that's a little bit on the
expensive set.
Well, not really.
They're only expensive if they're running and we don't need it running for
the idea.
So, yeah, so I don't know.
But the point is like, I just realized that the combination of desert racing
and the Audi R8 body on a side by side is probably not worth it because we're
going to put so much work into making it look cool and we'll be able to rally
the crap out of it.
And it might last 90 seconds.
Right.
No, probably more than that, but that's probably how long it, the, the other
versions of it lasted in the, the filming of Fast and Furious 7, intentionally
to be destroyed.
Exactly.
What were they powering those with?
C5 Corvette, everything that built the body to a C5 Corvette wheelbase, and
then they would just buy a C5 Corvette, strip the fiberglass body off, slap
that on, done.
I mean, paint it presumably, but they could have also painted it in post, so
to speak.
But yeah, all the prop cars in that, in all the, like all of the Koenigsegg
reguerras and everything, all of them are C5 Corvettes.
Yeah, you can't be afforded to crash Koenigseggs, even if you're
probably buying like a hundred of them at a time.
Just like, oh yeah.
I mean, C5 Corvettes are relatively very cheap and they have enough
performance for all the stunts in the movie.
You know, you can drift it, it's rubble drive.
It's fast enough to look fast.
Like it doesn't actually need to go 200 miles an hour.
It just needs to look fast.
Anyway.
So yeah, that's, that's my thoughts on that after, after, you know, rallying
it around as we need to figure out.
Well, I was you, I don't think we should cut it up.
Well, even if we do, I'm not totally against that because I mean, race prep
side-by-sides are actually not that expensive to buy used because people
are afraid of maintenance.
So like we could get another one like it for actually racing that might even
be better for racing because for example, desert racing wheelbase is very
important and that thing is a stock two seater wheelbase, which is about the
shortest you can get and like most people that do desert racing, they either
have a custom wheelbase that's in between the two or that you could do
four door because when you're doing whoops, a short wheelbase is super
sketchy. Yeah, you just cartwheel.
I mean, I've seen so many videos of side-by-sides cartwheeling in the
desert because the frequency of the whoops ends up working out just wrong.
And then you just cartwheel down the track.
So I'm not saying I wouldn't race that.
It would be a great race car.
But the point is there's better race cars out there too.
The point, the main point was just the r eight body thing.
It's like, yeah, probably we should not try to do a desert race with an r eight
body on a side-by-side unless we exactly guaranteed, almost guaranteed
destruction.
Makes sense.
Makes sense.
Food for thought.
Is that what they say on the streets?
Food for thought.
Hey, I got one right.
Yeah.
Nice.
My favorite is when you were like, now we're cooking with food.
I thought that sounded pretty right.
I mean, if you're cooking without food, you're not cooking.
Exactly.
It's just cooking with gas.
Yeah.
He knows that now.
Yeah, I got it.
Now we're cooking with fish.
Yeah.
So awesome.
That's, that's pretty solid guys.
I think I think I'm ready to start this monster truck show.
The six by six is hanging out here in the garage and about ready to rip.
Yeah.
That and eat some food.
Yeah.
Speaking of cooking with food.
Oh, I did bring fish.
There you go.
You didn't bring Chris Donuts though.
And he's very upset.
Yeah.
Did you tell him you were going to?
If that happens again, that was one of our rules is donuts when we do
podcasts and the odds of us pushing a Chang Lee today are extremely high and
it's a Monday.
No, we're not pushing them.
We're just going to pick them up with the skit steer and then run them over.
Oh, well, Steven also wants to film this thing with the working.
Yeah, I want to, I want to demonstrate the power of it by, uh, well,
they'll just have to watch the real when it comes out, but we'll save that one
for the, yeah, it's for the grand hard plumbing co on Instagram.
If you want to see what we're about to get up to, if the no donut thing
happens again, they would win.
You're going back to the donut shop for the podcast.
You should just protest.
You just sit there at the podcast of the mic on the table the whole time.
No doughnut, no podcast.
Fair enough.
I'll bring you some donuts on Wednesday.
Chris, that's the set and bent podcast.
And if you want to be entered to win a four wheel drive K truck and $5,000 worth
of tools, every dollar spent on grind hard plumbing co.com gets you an entry to
win.
You could buy a hat that's looks like it's a Ferrari hat, but it's a goose and
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Yup.
There you go.
Yeah.
And premium members have, they get entries every single month.
So I'm about to release the deleted scenes.
That's like an hour long from our samurai road trip on there.
So nice.
So yeah, it's pretty crazy.
The deleted scenes is an hour long.
Yeah.
Longer than our normal video.
Yeah.
That's why it's taken me a while because I wanted to drop it at the same time
for the premium members, but I also want to cut it up a little bit, you know,
because I don't want to have too boring of stuff.
But yeah, I'm like playing music and showing like the full drone shots and
stuff.
It's cool.
Nice.
It's cool.
So yeah.
Thanks for watching.
We'll see you next Tuesday.
Santin Band.
About this episode
The hosts bounce from a ridiculous dream about crushing a Chang Lee into a real off-road mistake on a mossy rock face, then into a muddy skid-steer rescue and a surprisingly detailed detour on giant water bugs. From there, they spiral into amusement-park economics, arguing that private roller coasters make more sense than supercars for wealthy buyers. The back half turns to desert racing, side-by-sides, and why an Audi R8-style body would probably get destroyed almost immediately.
