The Nissan Rogue is a popular SUV that many people buy. Here, the speaker is saying a competitor chose a Rogue, and they also mention not liking the smaller engine setup.
A three-cylinder engine has fewer cylinders than most engines you’ll see in cars. It can be more efficient, but some people don’t like how it feels or sounds compared to bigger engines.
The Chevrolet Silverado is a big pickup truck. It’s made to carry loads and tow trailers, and it comes in different versions. The podcast mentions it as an example of a typical full-size truck.
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Buick
Buick is a car brand. Here it’s used as a stereotype for the kind of car the host thinks older drivers tend to choose.
The Jeep Wrangler is a popular off-road SUV. The host says it’s become associated with “chick cars” because people decorate them with rubber duck toys on the dashboard.
The Ford Bronco is a rugged SUV designed for off-road use and is often compared directly with the Jeep Wrangler. The host contrasts it with the Wrangler by saying you won’t see the same rubber-duck decoration trend on Broncos.
The Honda CR-V is a common SUV that many people find practical. The host says it’s often viewed as an “old person car,” based on their personal impression.
The Ford Bronco Sport is a smaller SUV that’s meant to handle light off-road and rough roads. It’s built to be easier to drive day-to-day than the bigger Bronco. The podcast calls it “softer” compared with the full-size Bronco.
The Ford Escape is another Ford SUV. The host is saying the Bronco Sport is built using similar underpinnings, so it can feel related in how it drives.
The Kia Telluride is a family-size SUV with room for more than two people. The host is just listing it as one of the cars he thinks people label as “chick.”
The Toyota Prius is a car that uses a hybrid system to help save gas. The host is using it as an example of a car he thinks people stereotype as “chick.”
The Chevrolet Suburban is a big SUV that’s designed to carry lots of people and gear. It’s commonly used for family trips and everyday driving when you need extra space. That’s why it comes up when people list large SUVs.
The Honda Civic is a smaller car meant for normal daily driving. It’s known for being practical and efficient, and it’s available in different styles. The podcast mentions it as an example of a compact car type.
The Ford Mustang is a sports car made for drivers who want a more exciting drive than a typical commuter car. It’s known for sporty looks and performance options. That’s why it gets mentioned when people talk about car “types” and stereotypes.
The Dodge Challenger is a performance coupe designed to feel powerful when you drive it. It’s known for a bold design and strong engine options. The podcast brings it up as part of the classic muscle-car lineup.
The Dodge Charger is a car that’s built to be more performance-focused than a typical sedan. It has a sporty design and can come with powerful engines. The podcast mentions it as part of the Challenger/Charger performance-car group.
The Honda Ridgeline is a pickup truck that’s designed to feel comfortable like a regular car. It’s meant for people who want the usefulness of a truck bed without a rougher ride. The podcast brings it up as an example of a less common “young person” choice.
The Chevrolet Corvette is a sports car made for fast, exciting driving. It’s designed to be driven by someone who wants performance rather than just comfort. The podcast mentions it as an example in a conversation about car stereotypes.
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Hey folks, Lenny Lawson, the card guru, and I can't see squat today.
I got new glasses.
Well, I kept the same glasses because I like them frames, you know what I mean?
But I had to have new lenses because mine, well, what I was doing, I was
mowing the yard, had my glasses in my pocket along with my phone, my front
shirt pocket, and the glass on my glasses was rubbing against the glass on
my phone, and it rubbed the spot on my glasses that was right in my field of
view, so I couldn't have it.
I had to deal with it for about a week until the new prescription came in,
and it came in all right.
They installed it, and I noticed when I was driving out of the place, OK,
why is everything in the distance slightly blurry?
And then when I got to the dealership, I was getting my bifocals adjusted so
that I don't have to cock my head back too far to read my computer.
And many of you are saying, what does this have to do with cars?
Well, I'm trying to make a point about cars.
It's the importance of a test drive.
So I was on a test drive with my glasses, and I wasn't happy.
So I called my doctor who prescribed it.
She said, give it a few days.
Your eyes will adjust to the new prescription.
And you know what?
She was right.
I've told people the same thing about a car purchase when they buy it one day
and two or three days later that they're having second thoughts.
Not about the price of the deal or anything like that, but about the car itself.
And several times I've said, give it a few days, drive it,
use it the way you normally use your car and see if you get used to it.
Because it's really hard to get somebody out of a car.
If I wanted to get new glass or new lenses, I get one free adjustment
every time I get new lenses.
That's harder with the car.
So you need to work a little harder to make sure that it's right
before you pull the trigger.
So I was upset this weekend.
I drove by a guy that lives probably, well, seven tenths of a mile
from my house.
I have to drive by his house just about every day.
I know him.
I've known him for probably 30 years.
And he came to buy a car for me.
He called first and I gave him my price.
And and he said, well, you know, I didn't really want to pay that much.
And so we went back and forth.
And then he cooled off, decided he didn't want to do anything.
I said, well, just check back with me whenever you're ready.
Well, he did.
And he was still on a Nissan Murano.
And so I gave him a price on a Nissan Murano this time.
He was OK with it, but he wasn't sure his wife would be.
So he went home and I followed up with him.
And he said, now we're just going to wait a little while longer.
Well, this weekend.
I'm driving home from a baseball game in Kingsport.
I turn to go to my house and drive by his house.
And there's a brand new Nissan Rogue
with one of my fiercest competitors, a sticker on the back of it.
Now, I had suggested that he look at rogues because they cost less.
But no, he wasn't going to have a rogue too small
and didn't like the three cylinder engine.
And I said, OK, let's we'll do this.
But he went dark on me.
Next thing I know, there's a brand new one sitting in his driveway.
Now, I'm sorry, but I mean, I have been doing this for 48 years.
That still bothers me.
When somebody doesn't give me the opportunity to compete
and get their business.
I mean, I would have sold the thing for probably several thousand dollars
under my cost just to keep them from buying from those who's.
But didn't give me that opportunity.
So it should that bother me, but it bother you.
I think some of you are saying, yeah, well, you know, people can do whatever they want to do.
That's true.
I realize that.
But you know, when you've known somebody for 30 plus years,
every interaction has been good.
And you're just kind of backing off to let them make a decision.
You'd hope that they give you the last shot.
But people just don't always think about that.
So I'm going to let it go.
If I see him in his yard, I'm not going to shoot him any gestures.
No, I'm going to wave at him.
I'm going to be nice.
And then he'll come in for service to get his get something fixed on.
And I'll run him off.
No, I won't.
Now, I've realized many years ago that the best way to earn somebody's
business is to give them good service.
And when they come in for service, if they bought someplace else,
absolutely will work on your vehicle.
We'd love to.
And if we do a good job, then maybe they'll give us a chance.
Not everybody will, though.
You know, they think that they can pretty much say anything or do anything to a person
in the car business because we're all a bunch of crooks.
Well, we're not.
At least not all of us.
I tell you what, I know one dealer that is obviously having a rough
time on Google from a ratings standpoint.
Yes, you would not believe some of the ratings this guy gets.
And what I was doing was just kind of going through there.
And I know for a fact that this guy pays for good Google ratings.
I've had his customers tell me that.
And so when he gets a bad one, they try to respond, but they don't
always have any success, but it's funny.
If you if you want to know who a dealer really is, look at their one star reviews.
Now, if you see my one, I might have some one star reviews or two star reviews,
but it's going to be things like, oh, they didn't get my tag fast enough.
Or I had to wait to get some floor mats, you know,
people get upset about all kinds of things, not like this.
This they say, avoid this dealership at all costs.
These are just some quotes that I took off of his Google ratings.
I will never buy from this dealership.
And I strongly warn others to stay away.
They'll say anything to make a deal, even if it means taking advantage
of honest, trusting people buyers beware.
Currently we are in litigation against this dealership.
If you are seeking a new car, I absolutely suggest that you look elsewhere.
Here's one.
This place is the biggest scam joke and fraud company of the year.
The 8,000 over book value is a joke.
You know, if you see it, a bunch of those things like that,
that's a pretty good indication that they play a lot of games.
Don't look at how many good ratings they have.
Well, there are 4.5 out of five that is meaningless.
Because if a dealership pays people while they're sitting in the store
and they're signing the paperwork, hey, by the way, if you will go ahead
and fill out a five star Google rating, we'll give you a free tank of gas.
Oh, sure, honey, fill that out.
And so that's what they do.
Five star ratings mean nothing.
Check out the one star ratings.
That's who they really are.
I'll be back in just one minute.
We'll pay off your trade no matter how much you owe.
We'll pay you $10,000 over book value for your trade in.
You can buy today regardless of your credit history.
You ever hear any of those claims?
They're all lies.
Or let's say misdirection.
We'll pay off your trade no matter how much you owe.
Yeah, the dealership will actually write a check to the bank that you owe the
money to for the vehicle that you own.
They'll write the check, but they're going to take that negative balance
and add it to your new loan.
You're paying for your car no matter how much you owe, not the dealership.
And they're not going to pay you $10,000 over book value for your trade.
What they're going to do is they're going to find $10,000 worth of problems
on your vehicle that have to be fixed or just say that your vehicle does not
qualify because of the age.
There'll be some excuse.
No dealer can pay you $10,000 over the book value for a trade in.
It's impossible, can't be done, and it's false advertising.
And then finally, regardless of your credit history, really, you know,
if somebody doesn't pay anybody, they're 60, 90, 120 days past due on
everything that they owe and they have thousands of dollars in charge
offs and they were bankrupt three years ago.
Yeah, you got a problem.
You won't get financed, at least not here or anywhere, except maybe if
they're desperate about here, pay here car lot.
So all of those claims are lies and very common.
Just listen to the radio, the local radio in this market or any market
that you live in in this United States, you'll hear those same types of claims.
And the reason is because they work.
The public believes them.
And they just don't really understand what's being said.
It gets them into the store and then the games begin.
Now I'm here to tell you that the dealers that make those claims on the
radio, on the television, in the mailers, on their website, those are the
ones you need to stay away from.
Because when you go to that dealership, they're going to sniff out the
payment buyers, which are about 80 to 90% of all buyers.
And they are going to start the games and it'll probably start with a sales
person out there on the lot saying, what kind of monthly payment you're looking
for?
When they say that, that means they're trying to determine whether or not
you're a payment buyer.
Obviously, if you answer, we're looking for 450 a month, they've got you.
You are exactly where they want you to be from a negotiation standpoint,
because you're not really thinking about how much you pay for the car,
what you get for your trade in, what the terms of the loan are, and what the
aftermarket products are, the four targets, you're not even thinking about
that, you're thinking about that monthly payment and how it's going to fit
into your monthly budget.
I read a Google review of that same dealership that was talking about the
elderly parents that came into the store to buy a vehicle, the daughter was
with them the first time.
And when they left, the family made it very clear that the parents could
not afford more than, it was just under $500 a month.
So they packed up, went home, parents went back the next day, they ended up
paying $760 a month without the daughter there to protect them.
And that's sad, but there's nothing you can do about it because that elderly
couple signed the paperwork and that dealer is not going to let them out.
Guarantee it.
So if you don't know what you're doing when it comes to buying a car, you need
to take somebody along with you that does.
And I'm talking to somebody that really does, not another payment buyer who is
going to fall into the same trap with you.
You guys will both enjoy your time in the dungeon because that's where they're
going to put you.
And when you get home, it'll take maybe a couple weeks or maybe a month.
Finally, you'll start thinking about it, especially when you get that first
payment, that payment book arrives or it comes out of your checking account.
What happened to my checking account?
Well, your first payment came out and it was supposed to be $400 a month when
you set your budget and now it's $800 a month.
That's what happened to your checking account.
You did it.
I know this is tough talk.
Sometimes you have to talk tough, especially when you're consulting with people.
My dad had to do with me at times, you know, in my life when I was apparently
spending too much money on frivolous things in their mind.
And, you know, we've all been through that kind of thing.
And unfortunately, some of us don't listen until it's too late.
And then we're just trying to catch up.
And it's, you know, when you're paying 12, 13, 14% interest, it's hard to catch up.
And when you buy a new car, you finance it for 84 months, you pay nothing down.
And your normal trading cycle is every three to four years.
At three to four years, you are 15 to $20,000 upside down.
You owe 15 to 20,000 more on the car than it's worth.
Now, will there be some bank out there that will finance you?
Yeah.
If that dealership has really good relationships and pays a little bit
of money under the table every now and then, you know, get, give some hams at
Christmas, then the bank or the financing company may just extend you some credit.
But you would have been a whole lot better off if you had never showed up.
And if you had read the paperwork and thought about what kind of situation
you're putting yourself in, but again, most people don't do that because
they are overwhelmed with exuberance.
They're too excited.
They're getting a new car, Jeep, Bronco or, you know,
a Hyundai, you know, one of the things I really wanted to talk about today
and I haven't got to it because, well, I was just kind of a little bit reluctant
because I didn't want to offend anybody.
I probably already have offended a few people, but you know, it's my job to
review, to evaluate, to judge, to make observations based on my experience
and personal opinions.
And so that's what this next segment is about because I was watching a show
the other day and they were talking about the difference between chick cars and
boy cars.
And you may be offended by me referring to women as chicks, but that's not
that I was, they were.
Okay.
So a chick is a woman and a boy is a man, probably.
So what are chick cars?
Well, I mean, it's cars that you typically see women driving.
And they kind of have a, now this is in my opinion, a feminine attribute.
They just kind of feel like a woman's car.
I don't know what else to say.
I'll, I'll give you a few of them.
Now this is what they were saying.
Toyota Camry and a Honda Accord.
I agree with that.
Most of the Camrys and Accords that I see are driven by women and men really
don't drive many cars anymore.
You know, as an example, a boy car would be a, not a car at all, a full size
truck, either a F-150 or 250 Silverado Ram.
But I think that we need another category and that would be old people cars.
You know, people like me, what do they normally drive?
Well, the first one I thought of was any Buick.
If you drive a Buick, you're either old or you think old.
Again, these are personal opinions.
Let's go back to chick cars.
You know, this one would have never appeared in a chick car category until a
few years ago when the duck craze started.
Yes.
The Jeep Wrangler is now a chick car, especially if the whole dashboard is
lined up full of little rubber duckies.
You have to have seen them out there, but that, that rubber duck thing has
moved the Jeep Wrangler out of the boy cars and into the chick cars.
So a Bronco though doesn't, you'll see no rubber ducks on Broncos.
So it's a boy car, a geyser car or an old person car would be a Honda CRV.
I guarantee every time you see somebody driving a Honda CRV, they are
over 55 and if you're not, my apologies.
Okay, back to the chick car.
Now the Bronco is a man car or a boy car.
The Bronco Sport is a chick car.
It's softer.
It's based on a Ford Escape chassis and men don't drive Ford escapes.
Some other chick cars, and I run down the list due to the interest of time.
Kia Telluride is a chick car, any Mercedes SUV, definitely chick cars.
A Honda Prius, sorry, Toyota Prius is a chick car.
Any Tahoe, suburban or expedition.
This used to be boy cars, you know, men would drive Tahoe's and things like that.
But no, anytime you see a Tahoe, suburban or expedition being driven, it's now driven
by women, any Hyundai is men don't buy Hyundai's, they're women.
Now, let me rephrase that.
Men drive Hyundai's, but women make them buy them.
That's my opinion.
I'll be back in just one minute.
All right, let's continue this as long as somebody's still listening.
Boy cars, well, I already said full size trucks, Bronco, Honda Civic, believe it or
not, is a boy car.
The Accord is not, the Civic is because all you ever see these young guys driving
around in these little Honda Civics and they soup them up and so forth.
So Mustangs are boy cars, Porsche 911, definitely a boy car.
Volkswagen Golf R, not a regular Golf, the R version or the GTI version.
Never see girls driving those.
It's always going to be a guy.
See, we are different and I can't forget the Dodge Challenger or Chrysler,
whatever it's called now, the Challenger and the Charger.
Well, they don't make the Challenger anymore.
They just make the Charger and those are always guys and they're always
weight lifters and they wear their hats backwards, their baseball hats.
Okay, I wanted to go through this geezer car list because I think it's important.
We said Buick, Honda CR-V, Honda Ridgeline.
Yeah, you're not going to find a young person, male or female, driving a Honda Ridgeline.
That is an old man truck, if there ever was one.
This is surprising, Chevy Corvette.
It's an old person vehicle.
You ever see a young person driving a Chevy Corvette?
They are rare.
It used to be because the only people that could afford a Corvette were old people.
And now they're just like people who ride Harley-Davidson's.
They're all old and that's just the way it is.
Nothing wrong with being old.
Finally, Subaru.
You know, it's one of those cars that could really fit in just about any category.
Subaru is either driven by an old person or somebody in a highly technical field,
usually engineers.
But finally, what I do want to say is that chicks do buy boy cars.
And men, boys, they buy chick cars sometimes and young folks even buy geyser cars.
It happens.
The important thing though is to spend your money where you want to spend it.
But don't just throw it at the salesperson.
Use your head.
Hit the four targets.
And make sure that if you like to trade every two or three years that you don't lock yourself in,
for eight to 10, because that's what's happening in this marketplace right now.
And the banks and the credit unions are accomplices to the crime.
And they don't care what your average trading cycle is.
All they care about is making money and putting another loan on the books.
And they don't have your best interest at heart, but you should.
And if you need a copy of the my car guru guidebook to help you navigate that world.
Well, let me rephrase that.
You need a copy of the my car guru guidebook to help you navigate that world.
Send me your email address to my cell phone.
Text it 423-552-2020 or call Gateway Ford.
423-639-5151 and tell Mia or my daughter, Abby, what your mailing address is.
Name and mailing address and I'll send you a copy.
I'll print it out and send it to you.
And the cost is free, but it could mean a whole lot to you in that when you go shopping
for a new car or a used car or getting automotive service or trying to pick a body shop,
it'll help you with just about every aspect of the car business.
Well, thanks for listening and I'll see you next time.
About this episode
A good Google rating can mislead you, because the host says dealership quality shows up more clearly in one-star reviews and specific complaint patterns—plus how trade-in and loan math can quietly shift costs onto buyers. He also argues that a test drive and a few days of real use matter, since second thoughts can hit quickly. Then the show turns playful with “chick cars vs. boy cars,” including the Jeep Wrangler “rubber duck” stereotype and a list of examples.
