Why Porsche Stumbled, Which Classics Surged, And How Toyota Reinvented The 4Runner
About this episode
Porsche faces a significant downturn, with profit margins plummeting and sales in China declining by 21%. The discussion highlights the challenges of transitioning to electric vehicles and the impact of tariffs on luxury brands. The hosts also delve into classic car sales, revealing surprising auction prices for models like the 1954 Corvette and 1988 Toyota Land Cruiser. A review of the new 2025 Toyota 4Runner showcases its rugged design and performance, while critiques focus on its numerous trim levels and the shift from a V6 to a turbocharged four-cylinder engine.
The headlines promised an EV future on rails, but the market had other plans. We open with a candid look at Porsche’s sharp margin squeeze, the cost of a rapid electrification pivot, and why tariffs and a cooling Chinese luxury market are reshaping the brand’s near-term outlook. From Taycan’s steep first-year depreciation to the 911’s long-haul value and the Macan/718 model timing gaps, we map the difference between bold strategy and buyer reality and explore what it means for enthusiasts, dealers, and anyone pricing a premium garage.
Then we turn the spotlight to the auction lane, where nostalgia and scarcity spark big moves. A driver-grade ‘72 Nova that punches above its weight, vintage Toyota Land Cruisers and International Scouts riding a surge of love, and a shockingly cheap ‘88 Corvette remind us that taste cycles and condition trump assumptions. If you’re hunting an entry ticket to the hobby, we highlight where the value still hides and where documentation and originality command a premium.
We also go hands-on with the all-new 2025 Toyota 4Runner. Body-on-frame toughness stays, a 2.4-liter turbo replaces the old V6, and the cabin balances rugged materials with modern tech and a genuinely smart phone-charging nook. We dig into trims, pricing, towing confidence, highway comfort, and where the options list may overwhelm. Along the way, we flag the week’s recalls you should check now, unpack the ripple effects of an aluminum plant fire that’s idling Detroit lines, and weigh NASCAR’s misfired branding gamble for what it says about fan identity and tone.
If you care about where car culture is headed—values, supply chains, real-world ownership, and machines that still feel honest—this conversation brings the signal. Listen, subscribe, and leave a review to tell us where you think the market goes next.
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Toyota 4Runner
"Jeff has this week's Motor Minute, and we review the new Toyota 4Runner in this segment of the In-Wheel Time car talk show."
The Toyota 4Runner is a type of SUV that is great for driving off-road. It's known for being tough and lasting a long time, which is why many people who like outdoor activities choose it.
The Toyota 4Runner is a mid-size SUV known for its off-road capabilities and rugged design. It has a strong reputation for durability and reliability, making it a popular choice among outdoor enthusiasts.
supply chain issues
"And Porsche's woes have been compounded by persistent supply chain issues"
Supply chain issues happen when there are problems getting the parts needed to make products. This can cause delays and make it hard for companies to sell their products.
Supply chain issues refer to disruptions in the production and distribution processes that can lead to delays, shortages, or increased costs. These issues have been particularly prevalent in the automotive industry due to various global challenges.
Porsche 911
"Porsche had to take over battery supplier Varta to secure sales for its upcoming hybrid 911."
The Porsche 911 is a famous sports car known for its speed and handling. They're now making a version that uses both gasoline and electric power.
The Porsche 911 is a high-performance sports car that has been in production since 1964. The upcoming hybrid variant aims to combine traditional performance with electric efficiency.
Porsche Taycan
"A Taycan, electric sedan sees its worth tumble just after 12 months."
The Porsche Taycan is an electric car made by Porsche. It's fast and stylish, but its value can drop quickly after you buy it.
The Porsche Taycan is an all-electric sedan that represents Porsche's entry into the electric vehicle market. It has been noted for its performance but also faces depreciation challenges.
Porsche Macan
"Porsche's decision to make its new Macan SUV electric only has misfired."
The Porsche Macan is a smaller SUV made by Porsche. They decided to make it only electric, but it's having trouble selling well.
The Porsche Macan is a compact luxury SUV that has been popular for its sporty performance and practicality. The decision to make it electric only has faced challenges in the market.
Porsche Boxster
"... is forming with the 718 which is a mix between a Boxster and a Cayman. The combustion powered models will..."
Porsche Cayman
"...th the 718 which is a mix between a Boxster and a Cayman. The combustion powered models will be discontin..."
The Porsche Cayman is a sporty car that is fun to drive and looks great. It's designed to be fast and handle well on the road, making it popular among car enthusiasts. People talk about it because it's a good example of how cars are changing with new technology.
The Porsche Cayman is a mid-engine sports car that offers a balance of performance and everyday usability. Known for its sharp handling and powerful engines, it has become a significant model in Porsche's lineup, especially with the introduction of the 718 variant which blends features from the Boxster and Cayman. This car is often discussed for its driving dynamics and the shift towards electrification in the automotive industry.
Porsche 718
"An even bigger hole is forming with the 718 which is a mix between a Boxster and a Cayman."
The Porsche 718 is a type of sports car that includes two models, the Boxster and the Cayman. They are known for being fun to drive, but the new electric versions are taking longer to come out.
The Porsche 718 is a model that includes both the Boxster and Cayman, known for their mid-engine layout and sporty handling. The transition to electric models is currently facing delays.
Lamborghini
"the Exotics, the Porsche's, I'm sure the Lamborghini's"
Lamborghini is a brand that makes very fancy and fast sports cars. They are known for their unique and eye-catching designs.
Lamborghini is a luxury sports car manufacturer known for its high-performance vehicles and distinctive designs. It is often mentioned alongside other exotic car brands.
GM
"...than like a GM or a Stellantis or Ford. Well to a point because of their high end product."
GM is a large car company in the United States that makes many different kinds of cars and trucks. They own several brands, like Chevrolet and Cadillac.
General Motors (GM) is a major American automotive corporation that produces vehicles under various brands, including Chevrolet, GMC, Cadillac, and Buick. It has a significant presence in the global automotive market.
Stellantis
"...than like a GM or a Stellantis or Ford. Well to a point because of their high end product."
Stellantis is a car company that was created when two big car companies joined together. They make many different brands of cars, like Jeep and Dodge.
Stellantis is a multinational automotive manufacturer formed from the merger of Fiat Chrysler Automobiles and PSA Group. It produces vehicles under various brands, including Jeep, Dodge, and Peugeot.
Porsche Cayenne
"...back when they came out with the Cayenne, the big SUV. It was in a press fleet, our press fleet."
The Porsche Cayenne is a large, luxury SUV made by Porsche. It offers a sporty driving experience and is different from typical SUVs because of its performance features.
The Porsche Cayenne is a luxury SUV that combines sports car performance with the practicality of an SUV. It was first introduced in 2002 and has since become a significant model for Porsche, known for its distinctive styling and powerful engines.
BMW
"...it doesn't compare to a BMW."
BMW is a well-known car brand from Germany that makes luxury cars. They are popular for their sporty designs and performance.
BMW is a German automotive brand known for its luxury vehicles and performance-oriented cars. The brand has a strong reputation for engineering and driving dynamics.
Continental Tire Americas
"This is you Jeff. Continental Tire Americas is recalling certain continental terrain contact, cross contact, cross contact RX, Contaseal and General Grabber HTS tires."
Continental Tire Americas makes tires for cars and trucks. They are part of a larger company called Continental AG, which is well-known in the tire industry.
Continental Tire Americas is a division of Continental AG, a major tire manufacturer known for producing a wide range of tires for various vehicles, including passenger cars, trucks, and specialty vehicles.
tire tread detachment
"They've been produced using the wrong rubber compound causing the tread to detach. A tire tread detachment can result in a tire failure increasing the risk of a crash."
Tire tread detachment happens when the outer part of the tire comes off, which can make it very dangerous to drive because you could lose control of the car.
Tire tread detachment refers to the separation of the tread from the tire body, which can lead to tire failure. This is a serious safety issue as it can cause loss of control of the vehicle.
Ford Mustangs
"...Camera issue as well as a seat belt issue in Ford Mustangs. Total Ford recalls this week 625,000."
The Ford Mustang is a classic American car that many people love because it's fast and looks cool. It's been around for a long time and has a lot of fans. Recently, there have been some problems with the cameras and seat belts in some Mustangs, so it's good to check if a car has been recalled before buying it.
The Ford Mustang is an iconic American muscle car known for its powerful performance and distinctive design. It has a rich history dating back to the 1960s and has undergone numerous updates, making it a favorite among car lovers. Recent discussions have highlighted safety recalls, including issues with cameras and seat belts, which are important for potential buyers to consider.
Chevrolet Corvette
"...g with the car itself, you have your mind to a C1 Corvette. This particular one is a 1954, which is the fir..."
The Chevrolet Corvette is a famous sports car that has been around for a long time, starting in the 1950s. The 1954 model is one of the early versions and is known for its stylish look and speed. People talk about the Corvette because it's a symbol of American car culture.
The Chevrolet Corvette is a legendary sports car that has been in production since the 1950s, with the C1 being the first generation introduced in 1953. The 1954 model is particularly significant as it marked the evolution of the Corvette's design and performance features. Discussions about the Corvette often focus on its status as an American icon and its advancements in technology over the years.
Plymouth Deluxe
"A 1950 Plymouth Deluxe four-door sedan. That's what I need."
The Plymouth Deluxe is a car from the 1950s that was popular for its size and comfort. It's a classic vehicle that many car enthusiasts appreciate.
The Plymouth Deluxe was a full-size car produced by Plymouth in the 1950s, known for its classic styling and spacious interior.
4x4
"Now, I'm going to tell you right up that this is a 4x4. It's got what he says here is a 4x4 bed."
A 4x4 means the truck can use all four wheels to move, which helps it drive better on rough or slippery roads.
A 4x4 vehicle has four-wheel drive, meaning power is sent to all four wheels for better traction, especially in off-road or slippery conditions.
Toyota Land
"Yes, the Lillianthals. The 1988 Toyota Land Cruiser. 1988 Land Cruiser."
The Toyota Land Cruiser is a tough SUV that can handle rough roads and off-road adventures. It's known for lasting a long time and being very reliable, which is why many people trust it for family trips and outdoor activities. The 1988 version is considered a classic and is still admired today.
The Toyota Land Cruiser is a robust and reliable SUV known for its off-road capabilities and longevity. It has a loyal following due to its durability and performance in challenging terrains, making it a popular choice for adventurers and families alike. The 1988 model is often discussed for its classic design and reputation as a dependable vehicle.
Land Rover Range Rover
"Land Cruiser. It kind of looks like a Range Rover. It looks kind of like a Range Rover."
The Land Rover Range Rover is a fancy SUV that can go off-road while still being very comfortable inside. It's designed to look good and have lots of features, which makes it popular among people who want both luxury and adventure. Some people compare it to other SUVs because they have a similar style.
The Land Rover Range Rover is a luxury SUV that combines off-road capability with high-end features and comfort. It is known for its sophisticated design and advanced technology, making it a popular choice among those seeking both adventure and luxury. Comparisons with other SUVs, such as the Toyota Land Cruiser, often arise due to their similar looks and capabilities.
Ford Bronco
"...ike a Range Rover. It kind of squared off like a Bronco too. You know, the later model Broncos."
The Ford Bronco is a tough SUV that people love for going off-road and exploring. It has a classic look that many remember from the past, and the new models have cool features that make them fun to drive. It's popular among those who enjoy outdoor adventures.
The Ford Bronco is a classic SUV that has made a comeback in recent years, known for its rugged design and off-road capabilities. Originally launched in the 1960s, the Bronco has become a symbol of adventure and outdoor lifestyle. The latest models are often discussed for their retro styling and modern technology, appealing to both new buyers and nostalgic fans.
International Harvester Scout
"Speaking of which, how about a 1970? International Harvester Scout. Silver. It's got some aftermarket wheels on it."
The International Harvester Scout is an older SUV that was built to handle tough terrains. It's popular among car collectors because of its unique style and off-road abilities.
The International Harvester Scout is a classic SUV produced from the early 1960s to the early 1980s. Known for its rugged design and off-road capabilities, it has become a sought-after vehicle among collectors and enthusiasts.
Mercury Cougar
"...ff is going pretty cheap. This is a 1967 Mercury Cougar XR7. XR7 is the hopped up one."
The Mercury Cougar is an older car that many people liked for its stylish look and good performance. The 1967 XR7 version is special because it has some extra features that make it even nicer. People talk about it because it's a classic car that collectors really want.
The Mercury Cougar is a classic American car that was produced from the 1960s to the early 2000s, known for its stylish design and performance. The 1967 Mercury Cougar XR7 is a notable variant that features enhanced performance and luxury options, making it a sought-after collector's item. Discussions about the Cougar often revolve around its place in automotive history and its appeal to classic car enthusiasts.
TRD
"There are nine of them, including variants of the TRD, which has the most of them."
TRD is a special division of Toyota that makes their cars better for racing and off-road driving. They create upgraded versions of some models.
TRD stands for Toyota Racing Development, which is Toyota's performance division that enhances the capabilities of their vehicles, particularly for off-road use.
4WD Limited
"4WD Limited is what I had."
4WD Limited is a version of the Toyota 4Runner that has four-wheel drive, which helps the vehicle drive better on rough or slippery surfaces.
4WD Limited refers to a trim level of the Toyota 4Runner that features four-wheel drive capabilities, enhancing traction and control in various driving conditions.
body-on-frame
"This is a standard SUV, in other words, body on frame, and we are going to call this a midsize SUV."
Body-on-frame means the car's body is built on a strong frame, like a truck. This makes it tough and good for off-roading.
Body-on-frame is a vehicle construction method where the body of the vehicle is mounted on a separate frame. This design is commonly used in trucks and SUVs, providing durability and off-road capability.
eight-speed automatic transmission
"317 pound-feet of torque, eight-speed automatic transmission."
An eight-speed automatic transmission is a system that changes gears for you while driving. It helps the car run smoothly and can save fuel.
An eight-speed automatic transmission is a type of gearbox that automatically changes gears to optimize performance and fuel efficiency. More gears can lead to smoother acceleration and better fuel economy.
mileage ratings
"...Mileage ratings, 20 in the city, 24 in the highway, 21 for a combined. I got 20 over 437 miles."
Mileage ratings tell you how many miles a car can drive on one gallon of gas. It's a way to see how fuel-efficient a car is, with separate numbers for city and highway driving.
Mileage ratings refer to the estimated fuel efficiency of a vehicle, typically expressed in miles per gallon (MPG) for city and highway driving. These ratings help consumers understand how far they can drive on a gallon of fuel.
turbocharged four-cylinder
"...the turbo four works well. And I'm not a huge fan, generally speaking, of turbocharged four-cylinders, but this one does work well."
A turbocharged four-cylinder engine is a type of engine that uses a turbo to help it run more efficiently and powerfully. It's smaller than some engines but can still provide good performance.
A turbocharged four-cylinder engine uses a turbocharger to increase air intake, improving performance and efficiency. This type of engine is common in modern vehicles for balancing power and fuel economy.
air ride suspension
"Optional air ride suspension. If you're going to get one of those high-end ones, hey, let's go all the way. Let's do it on air ride."
Air ride suspension is a special kind of suspension that uses air instead of metal springs. It can make the ride smoother and can be adjusted for different driving conditions.
Air ride suspension is a type of suspension system that uses air-filled bags instead of traditional metal springs. This allows for adjustable ride height and improved comfort, especially on varying terrains.
base trim price
"Base trim price, 57.4. That's base trim price, 57.4."
Base trim price is the starting price for a car model before any extra features or options are added. It's the basic cost of the car.
Base trim price refers to the starting price of a vehicle model without any additional options or upgrades. It provides a baseline for what consumers can expect to pay before adding features.
Jeep Wrangler
"Competitors, the Jeep Wrangler starts at $32,095."
The Jeep Wrangler is a popular SUV that is designed for off-road driving. It has a tough look and can handle rough terrains well.
The Jeep Wrangler is a compact SUV known for its off-road prowess and iconic design. It is often compared to other SUVs in the market for its rugged capabilities.
Chevy Tahoe
"And the Chevy Tahoe, because GM does not have anything really that competes in this class."
The Chevy Tahoe is a large SUV that can fit many passengers and is great for families. It's also good for towing heavy things.
The Chevy Tahoe is a full-size SUV known for its spacious interior and strong towing capabilities. It is often used for family transport and heavy-duty tasks.
Jeep Wagoneer
"...s. Warren Truck, where Stellanus builds the Jeep Wagoneer and Jeep Wagoneer, Grand Wagoneer is being idled..."
The Jeep Wagoneer is a big SUV that can carry a lot of people and gear, making it great for families. It has a history of being tough and able to go off-road. Right now, there are some issues with making enough of them, so it might be hard to find one if you're interested.
The Jeep Wagoneer is a full-size SUV that has been reintroduced to the market, known for its spacious interior and off-road capabilities. It has a rich history dating back to the 1960s and is celebrated for its blend of luxury and ruggedness. Recent discussions have focused on its production and availability, which are important factors for potential buyers.
Jeep Grand Wagoneer
"...anus builds the Jeep Wagoneer and Jeep Wagoneer, Grand Wagoneer is being idled for three weeks because of a parts..."
The Jeep Grand Wagoneer is a big, fancy SUV that's great for families and outdoor trips. It has a lot of space inside and can handle rough roads. Right now, there are some production delays, so it might be hard to find one if you're looking to buy.
The Jeep Grand Wagoneer is a full-size luxury SUV that combines ruggedness with upscale features. Known for its spacious interior and off-road capabilities, it has become a popular choice for families and adventure seekers alike. Recent discussions have highlighted production issues affecting availability, which is important for potential buyers to consider.
ceramic coating
"whether you're looking to massage your original paint to a like-new appearance, apply a ceramic coating, install a paint protection film..."
Ceramic coating is a special liquid that protects your car's paint. It helps keep the paint looking new and protects it from dirt and sunlight.
Ceramic coating is a liquid polymer applied to the exterior of a vehicle that chemically bonds with the factory paint, providing a durable layer of protection against environmental contaminants and UV rays.
paint protection film
"apply a ceramic coating, install a paint protection film, nanoceramic window tint..."
Paint protection film is a clear layer you put on your car's paint to keep it safe from scratches and damage.
Paint protection film is a clear, durable film applied to the surface of a vehicle's paint to protect it from scratches, chips, and other damage while maintaining the car's appearance.
ExoShield
"install a paint protection film, nanoceramic window tint, or new windshield protection called ExoShield..."
ExoShield is a special film that you can put on your car's windshield to help protect it from getting damaged.
ExoShield is a type of windshield protection film designed to enhance the durability of the glass, providing resistance against chips, cracks, and other forms of damage.
radar detector
"How about a professionally installed radar detector?"
A radar detector is a gadget that helps you know when police are using radar to check your speed, so you can slow down if needed.
A radar detector is an electronic device that detects radio waves emitted by police radar guns, alerting drivers to the presence of speed enforcement.
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