Why the Ferrari Luce is Secretly GENIUS
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Car
Ferrari Luce
The Ferrari Luce is Ferrari’s first electric car. In this segment, they highlight its futuristic look, a big front wing to help it cut through the air, and a setup that uses multiple electric motors to make huge power.
Term
floating wing
A floating wing is a spoiler-like piece on the car that helps the air flow the way the designers want. The idea is to make the car more stable and efficient by shaping the airflow.
Term
haptic buttons
Haptic buttons are controls that give you a physical “feel” when you press them, usually through vibration. It helps you use the screen or controls without looking as much.
Term
analog
Here, “analog” means real physical controls like switches and knobs, not just a touchscreen. The host is saying the car mixes those physical controls with digital tech.
Term
independent motors
Independent motors means the car has multiple electric motors that can be controlled separately. That can help the car deliver power in a more precise way, which is part of why they’re talking about very high output.
Term
kilowatt hour battery
A kilowatt-hour battery is basically how much energy the EV can store. More stored energy usually helps the car go farther before it needs charging.
Term
EPA
EPA is a standardized testing method used to estimate how far a car can go on a charge. It’s not exactly what you’ll get every day, but it’s a consistent comparison number.
Term
torque output
Torque output is the car’s pulling/accelerating force. In an electric car, it can be increased very quickly when you ask for more power.
Term
paddle
This “paddle” is like a quick control you can pull to ask the car for more power. It’s meant to make acceleration feel more responsive when you want it.
Concept
cannibalize
Cannibalize here means the new electric Ferrari might not pull customers away from the gas Ferraris. The host thinks it will attract a different kind of buyer.
Term
internal combustion engine
An internal combustion engine is the traditional gas/diesel engine that burns fuel to make power. The host is saying Ferrari’s gas-car fans will keep buying gas Ferraris.
Car
Mercury Mystique
The Mercury Mystique is a car model from the Mercury brand. It’s not typically described as a supercar; it’s more of a regular car model name. In the podcast, it’s mentioned mainly because the name sounds like “mystique,” tying into a discussion about image and spending.
Topic
no such thing as bad publicity
They’re talking about the idea that any attention—good or bad—can still help a brand. For cars, lots of people noticing a model can make it feel more special and get more people talking about it.
Place
Monterey
Monterey is a California area that’s famous for car events and car enthusiasts. The point is that if a rare Ferrari shows up there, people will notice it immediately.
Person
Benedetto Vigna
Benedetto Vigna is the CEO of Ferrari. When he speaks publicly, it can hint at what Ferrari is planning next—especially for new cars and future technology.
Car
Chevrolet Corvette
The Chevrolet Corvette is a sports car made by Chevrolet. It’s designed for fast driving and handling, and it’s commonly talked about by people who like taking cars to racetracks. It’s also known for being a serious performance car without being as rare or expensive as some supercars.
Car
1993 Alpina B10
Alpina is a company that takes a BMW and tunes it to feel faster and more special. This one is a 1993 Alpina B10, and the hosts are talking about it because it’s a specific, recognizable version with a standout purple color.
Term
turbo
A turbo is a device that helps the engine make more power by pushing extra air into it. That usually makes the car feel stronger, especially when you accelerate.
Term
Daytona Violet
Daytona Violet is the name of a specific purple paint color. Enthusiasts care because it’s a real, named factory color—not just “any purple.”
Car
BMW M5
The BMW E34 M5 is an older BMW performance sedan (from the E34 generation). The host is comparing it to an Alpina car to say they don’t drive or feel the same, even if they might look comparable at first glance.
Term
carburetors
Carburetors are an older way of mixing fuel with air for the engine. The segment is saying the company started by improving how the engine got its fuel.
Car
BMW E34
The BMW E34 is a specific generation of the BMW 5 Series. The point here is that Alpina used this platform and turned it into a much faster, more special version.
Place
Buchlo
Buchlo is the place where Alpina did work on the cars. The host is basically saying the modifications happened at Alpina’s facility, not just at BMW.
Term
boost knob
That “boost knob” lets you choose how hard the turbo pushes. Turning it changes how much extra air pressure the engine gets, which affects how strong the car feels.
Term
low end torque
Low-end torque is how much pulling power the engine has at low engine speeds. If it’s strong, the car feels quick and responsive even without revving high.
Term
lag
Lag is the hesitation you feel before the turbo “kicks in.” Less lag means the car feels instant when you step on the gas.
Car
Porsche 993
“993” is the Porsche 911 generation from the 1990s. The host is saying Porsche’s twin-turbo approach on that era wasn’t as instant as the sequential system in the car they’re reviewing.
Term
engine compartment
The engine compartment is the area under the hood. People who care about cars like to look in there because it shows how the car is put together.
Term
engine porn freaks
“Engine porn” is slang for people who really love looking at the engine bay. They’re impressed by how it looks and how it’s arranged.
Term
shock tower
A shock tower is a strong part of the car’s body where the suspension shock/strut mounts. It’s in the engine bay area, so you may see labels or markings there.
Term
BMW Sonderluck
That tag is basically a label for a special paint/color option. The host is saying it doesn’t mean anything like a specific shade quantity—just that it’s a special color.
Term
individual throttle body
A throttle body controls how much air gets into the engine. “Individual throttle body” means there’s a separate one for different cylinders instead of just one shared unit. That can make the engine feel more immediate when you press the gas.
Term
beefed up the suspension
“Beefed up suspension” means the car’s suspension parts are upgraded to handle driving harder. That can make the car feel more controlled and less bouncy. In this segment, it’s used to explain why one car feels tighter than the other.
Term
high RPM engine
“High RPM” just means the engine is designed to spin faster. Performance engines are built so they can make power at those higher speeds instead of running out of breath. That’s why it can feel more “race-like” when you rev it out.
Term
glass roof
A glass roof is a see-through roof panel. It makes the cabin brighter, and most cars with this feature use shades or controls to block sun when you want.
Term
retractable screen
A retractable screen is a TV-like display that slides out when you want it and tucks away when you don’t. It helps keep the interior looking uncluttered.
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front boot
A front boot is basically a trunk at the front of the car. EVs often have room there, so you get extra storage compared to a typical gas car.
Term
back boot
A back boot is the normal trunk at the rear of the car. Mentioning it alongside a front boot usually means the car has extra storage overall.
Car
Tesla Model S
The Tesla Model S is an all-electric car, meaning it runs on electricity instead of gasoline. It’s a larger, comfortable sedan with a lot of technology inside. People mention it because it’s one of Tesla’s main cars and is often used as a reference when talking about electric-car performance.
Term
lease deals
A lease deal is when you pay to drive a car for a fixed period instead of buying it outright. The host is saying the monthly cost can be less painful with the right lease offer.
Term
grand touring
Grand touring (GT) means a car meant for comfortable long trips. It’s usually built to feel relaxing and easy to live with over distance.
Topic
Indy 500
The Indy 500 is a famous big race in the U.S. The host is mentioning they also recorded an audio segment tied to their trip there.
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Welcome to Spike's Car Radio everybody.
It's me and Zuckerman this week and we should just get right into it Zuckerman.
Go the Ferrari Luce.
That's right.
Let me take you through the whole story Zuckerman because perhaps you haven't been following.
I think we're going to need these today.
So Ferrari debuted a brand new, very expensive iPhone this week.
The Ferrari Luce or as I like to call it the Ferrari Fredo.
Here's the car Zuckerman as you'll recall.
It was designed by Johnny Ivy's design house and he's the iPhone guy, right?
And pretty much immediately when this car was introduced, it's a $650,000 electric.
Pretty much the whole automotive world lost their minds, especially the Ferrari elite like this guy.
Got something there for you.
You got something for me.
Oh, come on, man.
Not this piece of shit.
One of the most notable Ferrari collectors in the world, Richard Rollins.
Hey, Richard.
So I thought rather than just pile on here, Zuckerman, let's look at the car and talk
about it intelligently and give it a benefit of the doubt, right?
Intelligently.
Yes, intelligently.
Let's give it a fair shot.
So here it is.
Here it is introduced.
It's first ever electric car.
The Luce here is everything you need to know.
The Luce looks nothing like previous Ferraris and that's bound to ruffle some feathers.
It has a huge floating wing in front that boosts aerodynamics.
Stop it for one sec.
Zuckerman, do you like the way this thing looks?
It doesn't look like anything to me.
OK, I can't tell the difference between this and a Waymo.
OK, so you don't.
I didn't mind it.
I didn't mind the exterior design.
It's completely inoffensive and I liked it in this color.
Keep going. Let's learn some more about this car.
Slipperyist Ferrari road car ever.
Inside, you get a distinctly apple like.
OK, stop for a second.
Now, this interior, I actually think is really cool.
This is all the haptic buttons back.
I like how it looks.
I like how it presents in a very analog way.
Keep playing with satisfying aluminum switches and glass knobs.
Yeah, it's a really refreshing combination of analog and digital elements.
Luce is also Ferrari's first five seat car ever.
There you go.
Packs over 1000 horsepower from all independent motors.
A 100 and 22 kilowatt hour battery
should give it close to 300 miles of EPA rain.
Plus, here's something I've never seen before.
A paddle behind the steering wheel lets you dial up torque output on demand.
The Luce goes on sale in Europe later this year
with a starting price of 550,000 euros.
OK, so there you go.
That's all the information you have.
So I think there are a couple of things happening here.
Zuckerman one, the the people, I guess, who love Ferraris like us,
we like Ferraris are very upset that Ferrari has produced an electric car.
In the middle of their incredible lineup of other things,
they have this car that is over 600000 dollars.
And if I were to guess, they're they're, you know,
I guess from my point of view is like, OK,
that's 600000 dollar price point is fine for Ferrari.
But what am I getting?
What makes it special with respect to say this Lucid that I have behind me?
I think there's a bit of genius behind this.
Yes. And I'll tell you what I think it is. OK.
I think it doesn't cannibalize any of the existing Ferrari sales.
Correct. All of the people who love their internal combustion engine.
Ferraris, yes, they're going to continue to buy all of those.
And then there's going to be this group of people that would have bought
maybe an S and more SUV would have bought some expensive Rolls-Royce SUV.
And now they can be part of the Ferrari mystique and they can spend a lot of money
for having the privilege of saying they have a Ferrari.
These are not Ferrari people.
These are other wealthy people who want to be distinguished and distinguishable
by what they buy.
Yeah, I mean, I'm not going to jump on this hate bandwagon.
I think this car is going to work.
And I can hear everybody out there going, you're nuts.
And no, for precisely the reason you just said and another reason.
Erdogan Supermarket.
There you go. Exactly.
That's what I'm talking about.
We want there are some people and I don't mean we, but there are some people
who want to pay a thousand dollars for blueberries.
That's right.
And this is a 600 and 50000 dollar pack of blueberries.
You remember the story?
There was a there was a shrink in New York.
This is maybe 15 years ago.
OK. And he would say to people, I can fix you.
It's going to cost 300000 dollars.
And this is 15 years ago.
But not every I can't I can't help everybody.
I got to interview you and make sure that you're appropriate for my cure.
Correct. So people were lining up to to be for him to
for him to validate their value as being worthy of his expensive cure.
Yes. Or let me invest your money for you.
Yeah. Oh, yes. Exactly.
That guy, that guy.
I don't take everybody. Yes.
But I would take you maybe.
And so this really taps into this moment of ultra wealth and being able to,
you know, I I'm rewarding myself with something super expensive.
The thousand dollar blueberries.
And there's no such thing as bad publicity in this car is everywhere.
And you're telling me if we see one up in Monterey or we see one in at the
odd drain, we're not going to stop and take a million pictures of it.
It's it's it is going to feel special.
And I think you're exactly right.
I think the guy who has four Ferraris in his garage
but wants something electric to take out to dinner.
It's going to go. Yeah. Send one over.
It's just 650 It doesn't matter.
Look at this story.
Ferrari CEO says and look at the Ferrari CEO.
He really doesn't dress well, but really, that's him.
That's him. Yeah, that is.
Hopefully that's the Ferrari.
That's Benedetto Vigna.
He wears caps just like a regular guy.
He's got a Matt Farah beard and weird goatee.
And he said he says the first
clocking up orders despite the backlash.
That's accurate.
That's exactly what's going to happen.
Everybody's going to want this thing.
Who owns Ferraris, but not the people who maybe are just in the electric car game
because they would, you know, I think, I mean, me personally, let's see.
I'm not going there.
I'd go as high as Lucid, Lucid, as far as an electric.
This is for the for rich.
My wife drives a Ferrari.
You know which for this Ferrari.
She would drive this.
No, I'm just saying in general like that guy gets his wife a Ferrari now.
That's right. This thing. This thing. Yeah.
But just in case the capped and oversized
gap shirt Ferrari CEO is not telling the truth,
they're hedging their bets with this announcement.
The new 12 C may get a manual.
This came right out real quick.
So they could remind everybody what their primary products are and what they do.
And clever, clever.
Italians, clever.
Go back to the picture of the clever Italian guy.
Yeah, that guy right there.
Oh, that's not really him.
Is it right?
I'd be really cool if the Ferrari CEO dressed like that,
but they're usually in those two tight pants suits with white sneakers and stuff
and boring that boring us to tears with their speeches.
Anyway, it's pretty good.
It's pretty good. Oh, I also, you know, I forgot to mention
there's this funny AI Instagram site, Angelus Death Highway.
I think they call it that that manages to push out these like these AI videos.
There's the Ferrari one here. Play this.
This is their take right here.
What have you done to the car?
It looks like a fucking iPad.
You do realize what my previous occupation was.
Anyway, come and look at the interior.
You'll love it. If you think of the outside is bad,
you should have seen what the fruit guy did to the interior.
The fruit guy. All right.
Enough of this.
Well, I have big news for you.
Spikes car radio listeners, the creator of this site,
the man behind Angelus Death Highway is on the show today.
He's calling in in about a half hour.
I can't say where he's calling in from, nor will he reveal his identity.
He's not going to reveal his face and or his voice.
He wants to be secretive and we're going to get into why and how he created this site
and why he has to remain essentially off the grid persona non grata.
I would like to say he's in a tent in Antarctica.
You'll get to ask him.
And Ferrari, if you want to change the name to the Ferrari Fredo, go ahead.
That's my take. Ferrari Fredo, just a joke.
But but I think you have a successful car there.
And I'll drive it. I'll let you know.
And maybe there isn't anything special about it other than the price.
Maybe that's what's special about it.
I think so. Probably.
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I just came back from Indy Zuckerman with Matt Farrow was there for five days.
I'd never seen the Indy 500.
Have you ever been to Indiana?
I had not.
Indiana is known for its every every restaurant is steak.
It's flat. It's flat.
It's very flat.
And like you can get a one bedroom apartment with six acres of land for like
a hundred bucks. Everything is there's a bit, you know, to illustrate that.
We're staying in like a decent hotel. It was me and Matt Farrow.
We were there with Ray Hall, Letterman, Lannigan Racing.
And that's a picture of me and Graham Ray Hall.
But show the show the hotel.
This is a good illustration.
Like this is a cheap hotel.
That's the atrium, right?
Formerly a grain silo.
And if you if you were to look down, that's Matt Farrow and left.
If you look down, there's a mall in the lobby and there's all of this unused
like gymnasiums of unused space to walk from store to store.
Like they didn't take the space of the hotel and just push the rooms out.
But everybody in the hotel is either there for the race or from a racing team.
So people all, you know, coming out of the elevators in their racing suits
and the rest of it, Matt and I, you know, while I'm thinking of it,
did a little podcast in one of these little, you know,
table areas in the little alcove that you could very easily jump off of
if you get depressed from staying in this hotel.
And that's on Patreon right now, where we talk about our adventure.
But we did a ton of cool shit.
So, you know, we got to to go to the big Ray Hall,
Lennigan Letterman Racing Party the night before the Indy 500.
Yeah, here's Dave.
Dave Letterman came out and you can't see it, but there's about 500 people
in front of him and he introduced Bobby Ray Hall and told a funny story
about Larry Jacobson, the writer on David Letterman, who played Bobby Ray
Hall and every time he was on the show as Bobby Ray Hall,
the real Bobby Ray Hall would call up and say, was I on the show again?
That's how much Larry Jacobson, my neighbor actually looks like Bobby Ray Hall.
Now you can show the picture.
Then, you know, Graham came up and said some words.
Bobby came up and introduced his team from 1986.
It was pretty amazing.
This is us right after the event.
This is the night before Graham raced and then went out there.
And I don't know why I'm in the middle.
We went from there to a party for Tag Heuer, who loves this show.
The heritage guy, Nick, who runs the Heritage Department of Tag Heuer,
big fan of Porsches, watches.
We're talking, which is cool.
Look at this. And yeah, they had the James Garner watch there.
Awesome. This was actually in the Indie Museum.
I mean, the whole thing was really wild.
And then the race suckerman is just spectacle.
The race, as you know, I'm the last guy to learn this.
But they do these parade laps before it starts and they've got
helicopters, Apache helicopters, really?
Like, yeah, like about 20 yards above the cars flying around the track with them.
It was it was insane.
And then, you know, the day before they do the Wienermobile race,
which you think, oh, this is going to be stupid.
This is actually a lot of fun. Really?
It was really a good time.
And look, our friend, Andy Richter, was it go to the picture to the right.
There's Andy Richter. That's him on the scoreboard.
He had a barbershop quartet and sang and I sent him a funny message.
I go, I'm here. I see this.
I know you've sold out to the Oscar Wiener people.
And he said, these are my people, not the Wiener people, but the the the quartet people.
And then, you know, the hot dogs were mixing it up on the track.
Super fun. This is a good idea of like what everybody kind of looks like.
Zuckerman, you know, everybody's kind of dressed up in wild outfits.
These folks were here just for the Wienermobile.
There was no shortage of checkered flag outfits on guys and girls
in the in the backside of the Indy 500 is a rave with 10,000 people for the
during the race that aren't even there.
Half naked men and women walking in.
And if you don't know that like me, you didn't know what they were doing.
You're like, what is going on?
Women and men in their underwear are walking in here for this race.
Like, you know, and this girl goes, where's the snake pit?
And I, you know, she's in her underpants.
And I go, I and I was just could I was speechless.
And I go, what's the snake pit?
Matt goes, it's the rave.
It's the rave. I went, oh, and then this weird dude and just like,
you know, just horrible shorts with nothing on the thin fabric.
And you're like, what is happening?
So they're half naked people, probably taking ecstasy,
dancing out in center field there, this giant race going on.
And as you know, bizarre, the race, you know,
anytime there's any little dot of rain, they have to stop the race
because these cars are going 230 miles an hour.
I swear, Suckerman, three little drops on the arm, the race stops.
Really? Just like that.
Matt and I were like, wow, unbelievable.
Like there was like no rain, nothing that would make you, you know,
you know, when the windshield, you get a dot on the windshield.
It was like that race stops because they want to keep everybody safe.
And then we end up having the closest Indy 500 ending in history.
Did you see it?
I do not. Let's let's look it up.
This is the very end of the race sound, please.
By three.
This is after stopping and going, rain break.
So now this is it.
Last lap, 12 and three.
So boom.
Oh, on the bottom.
Now, these guys are on the same team, right?
No, down there.
They have to make sure they don't crash.
They're behind them by three paddles.
Fighting for second and third.
Not a with you, not a with you.
Still down there, still down there.
Now, the race is already over here.
Still down there.
Just you two, still down there.
You two, still down there.
It's over because you want to be in second segment.
Still there, still there.
Go get him here, go get him here.
Because you can draft him.
Watch, mm hmm.
They're out there.
You and him.
They're out there.
You and him.
Reach it.
Deploy, deploy, deploy.
Deploy.
Oh, man.
Oh, man.
If you were to race fan and you witness this moment.
Boy, it gives me chills.
It's like every kid's dream of a racing ending.
It was and, you know, these guys are driving for over three hours.
So they're in the car.
You know, the second place driver gets out of the car.
He's just bawling.
He's just crying, you know, because it's three hours of fighting.
You know, the way things, you know, Matt and I were just like,
I can't believe how the standings are changing in this race over and over again.
You're not even sure who's in the lead, you know, and then people are crashing.
The way, you know, we were on top of Ray Hall, Letterman,
Lannigan racing's trailer in the middle looking up.
So you can see parts of the track, but we didn't have a monitor in front of us.
But we're watching like turn one cars coming in and cars going out at a
very high rate of speed and you wouldn't know anything happened until you heard
or oh, like just 400,000 people going, oh, no.
And then you'd open up the app and you'd see there just been a crash.
It was really spectacle.
The whole thing was spectacle and wild.
Is it worth going? Would you do it?
Oh, yeah. Would you do it again?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, impossible traffic jams getting in and getting out.
But, you know, it's there's nothing like it.
There really is nothing like it.
It's one of those races you have to see at least once in your life,
like Le Mans, you have to go and you got to do it.
Anyway, I got to thank the folks at Edwards Life Sciences.
This is the debut of their documentary about Lannigan there on the right,
who was Paul Newman's former racing partner, Bobby Ray Hall sitting there.
And thank you for bringing us out.
We had a wonderful time.
Thanks for bringing Matt to that was fun to hang with him for the weekend.
And here, go to the next shot.
And these are our handlers right here.
That's Alia and Lizzie.
They were from the PR crew and they made our life very, very easy.
Look at Matt Ferrer. He's so happy posing in this picture.
Anyway, hello.
I just smoked 20 bowls and I'm getting a heart valve.
A pocket full of valves.
No, it's fun. Matt and I had a great time.
All right. Thanks. Enough of that.
We got to talk about also something that happens.
Zuckerman Radimac is was sentenced to seven years in prison.
Look at him. There he is right there.
I don't think we need to play this story.
Nathaniel Radimac, 39, received a seven year sentence
after circuit court judge Clarissa Malineo granted the state's motion
for consecutive terms on one felony felony count of unauthorized entry into a motor vehicle.
Well, he beat up a couple people in Hawaii.
And what we're learning is you don't fuck with Hawaiians.
You don't. And, you know, when they say consecutive,
that means that he's a lot of times you get charges, multiple charges,
and your your penalty runs concurrently.
So if you got two years on one charge, two years on another,
they run at the same time.
So you get both done at the same time,
but consecutively means you finish one, you start the other.
Well, here's what he's going to be away for a while.
Here's what Radimac had to say.
I take accountability.
I just feel bad about it.
It shouldn't have happened, but I really need a certain kind of treatment
that is being prolonged in farther away.
It's not helping me, but I take accountability.
What does he mean?
Well, apparently he's saying he should be in the mental hospital.
Is that how I read that?
That he's not going to get the mental health care that that he needs.
But something tells me that in all the other times
he was advised to go get mental health care.
And now that he's taking it to the ultimate place,
he feels bad that he's going to prison.
Yeah, or it could be drugs could be the rest of it.
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All right, Suckerman, let's talk about this Pimpi Violet BMW.
What do we have here?
We have a 1993 Alpina B10
by turbo B Turdball in Daytona Violet.
Daytona Violet.
And if you recall, be old like you are.
Thank you.
There is a famous picture of notorious
B.I.G. No, but no, but close.
Notorious Shog Night in this exact car, color.
Back in the day with a big fat cigar.
And now he is currently driving a prison cell.
But he is.
I've got no problem with Shog Night.
Just the record.
Absolutely. But OK.
What he can accomplish from his prison cell.
But yes, this, you know, when you when you bought this car,
we were talking about purple car ownership
and how difficult it can be.
Like you can have two or three weeks of enjoying it
and then suddenly you're in a purple car.
But you feel this car is going to stay in your collection.
Absolutely. Yeah.
And Johnny's pretty excited about it, too.
So give us some of the main reasons why.
Forget about color.
What is it that makes this car so special?
You know, let me say, I never understood Alpina
until I had this car.
And and when you look at it on paper,
it didn't really strike me as very different from the E34 M5
that I have the red one, the 20th year.
Show the red one, Cameron. Yeah.
So that's that you thought these two cars might be the same.
They don't have to walk over there.
They'd be so similar and they're not.
The approach is completely different.
And wow, that's nice. That's a nice.
And so Alpina is an independent company at that time.
Alpina, by the way, it's the bovin.
I'll say this from both in the Seepin family,
which is has a lot of brilliant people in it,
including the guy that started tuning BMWs.
And he got it in the 60s.
He started messing around with carburetors
and making a little 2000 twos or sixteen hundreds go faster.
And over the course of time,
Alpina becomes its own independent vehicle manufacturer
with close relationships to the factory.
And their approach by the time,
they I think they really hit their stride with this E34.
And what they're doing is they are they are going to go fast
with a with a twin turbo setup.
Now, but what do they do?
Do they are they like Zagato where they get the Porsche
that comes out of production and then they modify it?
Right. So what they did, what they would do is they would take
a BMW off the off the line.
It would go over to their factory.
They would do a bunch of stuff in Buchlo, I think is the name,
not far from where BMWs are made.
They would do some stuff to it there,
and maybe it will return to BMW.
Some way or another, there was both of the companies
were working on this car.
If you go to the interior, you'll see they've
really done a lot of work on the interior.
It's very attractive.
When you when you drove it in, I said it looks much smaller
in the photography. Those seats are great.
Those are car roads.
You'll see them in some Porsche special wishes.
They're extremely comfortable.
They've got those great switches on the side bolsters.
They would also do this wood inlay.
They would do the door panels.
You'll see this this inlay of the blue and green door panels.
Oh, yeah.
And then they would modify some of the gauges.
And they also had in the center in front of the shifter,
you will see the boost knob.
You see that little boost knob there?
And that is the magic knob for the for the boost
for the turbo boost.
So how much you want?
How much you want?
And where this car is really thrilling
is how much low end torque it has.
It is a torque monster.
Yeah. So the M88 engine out of the M one that's in the M five
that has 300 and forty horsepower
and about 290 foot pound of torque.
In the Alpina, we have 360 horsepower,
but we have close to if I'm correct about 380
390 foot pounds of torque.
And what that means is when you step on the gas in this thing,
this thing just flies and and you can shift it into second.
You can break the tires shifting into second.
It is so powerful off the line.
It is so intoxicating.
And the wine of the twin turbos is so great.
And one thing Alpina really has,
because these are sequential twin turbos, there's zero lag.
And even when Porsche gets around to twin turbos in the 993
and 9596 yeah, there is still some lag.
And the this Alpina has has it so dialed in.
How many years?
So is this one of these low mileage original ones?
As far as Alpina and BMWs go, this is this has 60,000 kilometers.
So people really drove the BMWs.
This thing is an amazing condition.
Even to Hungarian, who never is impressed.
He's never impressed.
You know, he loves a thousand horsepower cars.
He was impressed with these drives.
These drive really good, very fast.
You remember when the Gunther Rooks was in the way?
He goes, get this out of here.
Whatever this is, get it out of here.
But this he but this he likes.
This he likes.
And I think back in the day, you basically paid twice for this car.
Yeah, you paid the sticker to BMW.
You paid it an almost equal amount to Alpina to do their magic on this.
And you'll see you'll see the beautiful work that they do in the engine compartment.
Yeah, there you go, Cameron.
He's taking initiative now.
He's telling us, don't forget to show the engine.
People will complain.
There it is for you engine porn freaks.
Wow, look at the purpley.
There's a lot of there's plumbing that's been there.
And if you go around to the shock tower on the other side
where they put the color tag, there's Cameron right there.
You'll see what that color tag says.
Where's the color tag?
Right there.
It says BMW Sonderluck.
Oh, OK.
It just that just I think means special color.
Yeah.
So it doesn't indicate that it's a ton of viola.
It just indicates it's a special color.
How do you know this isn't Chug Knight's car?
Well, because it because I imported was not here.
It's not been federalized.
I bought it over.
I see.
And you'll see it's they took the regular 3.5 engine
as their departure point to make this Alpina engine.
And you'll see it's very different from the
from the the non turbocharged engine in the M five,
which is an individual throttle body.
Yeah, beauty.
And what we really need to do.
There you go.
Yeah.
Well, also very nice.
Yeah, I really need to drive these cars
in sequence to get an idea of what's going on.
I think the way that they beefed up the suspension
in the Alpina,
it drives like a somewhat heavier, more substantial
carbateurs, but it's very tight.
Right.
The BMW feels the M five feels lighter
and the engine is more of a race tuned engine, high RPM engine.
The BMW collection is massive right now.
It's massive right now.
Really big.
We'll have to throw it up.
You know, we're building out the site for more of Solomon's.
But maybe there is room and conflicted about it.
You know, a dealership site will put up the personal collection
for sale, which is kind of annoying, right?
Yes, because we always know it's for sale.
It just means it's more expensive.
You've got to start naming the price.
Genuine interest, you know, from the people who watch the show
and seeing some of the cars in the collection.
So we'll talk about that.
Everything's for sale, folks.
Yeah, yeah, everything is for sale for the right price.
All right.
Bring it back.
We've got to get, you know, I've got to take you through the Lucid.
And I've got to.
I've got some real Zuckerman news to go through.
We may have to kick that over to Patreon, but this is such a winner.
I love it.
And the wheels, those wheels, wheels are beautiful.
Look at those wheels.
Get us out of the wheels real quick.
Except Felipe is sending me from Germany the key for the for those wheels
because the tires are from 2009.
Look at them.
They actually present as white on video, but they're silver.
Yeah, they're a lot.
And they match the silver decaling.
Yeah, yeah.
Alpina.
See that the decaling looks white, too.
And you're right, that's silver, but it's gorgeous.
And if you popped a trunk, Cam, you'll see what every Alpina comes with.
All right.
Quickly, quickly, because we've got Angelus death highway guy to check with.
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He doesn't know.
Push the key button.
There you go.
You youngster.
Jen Ekster, whatever you are.
OK, by turbo.
I like to put you there.
Money, drugs, guns.
That's your briefcase.
Yes.
Why are we looking at that?
Just because it's so dumb.
What is in there?
Nothing.
You're not going to know.
I just thought it was funny to put like a little teeny briefcase in there.
Every Zuckerman Mobile comes with this with this money, drugs and guns.
It's the MacGuffin.
We don't know what's in it.
Let's close the trunk.
Let's look at that logo on the back, that emblem.
OK, the super coolest.
Look at, yeah.
Oh, yeah, look at that.
That's the money shot.
That's sweet.
That's some real 90s crap to the right.
B10, B turbo.
B10 by turbo.
Yeah, that's cool.
I like that.
If you saw it, one last thing.
If you look up at all of the cars Alpina did, they're nomenclature.
Yeah, there is so it's so bizarre and so confusing.
There are so many.
There's C's, there's B's, there's these and there's so many numbers.
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All right, as promised, as promised, I've locked down an interview
with the creator of Angelus Death Highway, who, as I'm reminding you,
is going to remain secretive.
He's not going to tell us his name.
He's going to have his voice disguised and his face blurred.
He's in a windswept tent in Antarctica.
I can't even say where he is.
We can't even say Antarctica.
But let's throw on our headphones here and let's dial them up.
All right, his face is blurred there.
So hello, thanks for coming on Spikes Car Radio.
How should we refer to you in the show?
Do you you're not going to give us your name, obviously?
I'm not going to give you my name, but I am someone who is now apparently going by ADH.
So I think that is the best ADH.
All right, I like that.
ADH, my first question is, why are you keeping your identity hidden?
Because, you know, I don't think this is something that should be about me.
This was something that I accidentally started as a joke.
And it was just a thing to point out just this observation that I had
when I went up to Angelus Crest one day and it was a thing of,
man, why do these guys take themselves seriously?
I just want to preface that it was actually me who was also taking it seriously as well.
So this passion project actually started a thing to not just poke fun
at the community, but also myself, because I see there is a moment
where I was really into going to the track and driving fast.
And it's not to a point where I was like, what am I doing?
Let's just have fun with this, you know.
Right. Are you has your life been threatened at all?
I know, you know, when when recently you did the the court
and the Canyon Carver controversy, what was their blowback?
Are you afraid that anybody that you're making videos about,
including us, might come after you?
You know, I'm very lucky in the fact that it seems like the audience is in on this.
This I just want to make it clear that when I make these videos,
it's not a goal for me to be laughing at people.
It's kind of like we are all in this together.
And it's like everyone collectively, what are we doing here?
Yeah. So to answer your question,
I've I've not actually had anyone really come at me in that way.
It's incredibly supportive.
And that's been the most surprising thing about this.
Well, you know, the quickness is what really grabs us.
I think you you were on the map with us when we were at Willow
for the big grand opening and flying back on a helicopter
that was provided by Willow.
And there was already a video about us flying on a helicopter there.
The quickness and the speed.
Are you using are you using like AI tools that everyone can get their hands on?
Or do you have some super secretive system that you do?
Everything that I do is something that if you have, you know,
just some basic video production skills, you could do yourself. Wow.
So would you like me to talk you into how I'm making these?
Is that something that interests me?
Well, well, well, I think, you know, obviously, like in my other business
in entertainment, there's a lot of shade being thrown at AI
because we don't want creatives kind of replaced, you know,
for a social media site and what you're doing, I see there's writing in there.
Am I wrong about that?
You're literally writing jokes and putting stuff together
and using this program to create the video around it. Yes.
Yes, I read everything myself.
Now there's a disclaimer.
There's a point in time where maybe 20 percent I did lean on
the AI to kind of write my stuff.
But this was a time when I didn't really take pride in the writing itself.
It's kind of transitioned to a thing of, well, you know,
I think fundamentally, if I'm going to be creating an AI product,
it has to have a human element to it.
It's funny. It's clever.
Thank you. You know, I think audiences do notice when AI is used,
especially these days, there are certain repetitive terms
that AI spits out and it's not exclusive to script writing,
but also, you know, I see it on Instagram captains all the time.
Like there is a sort of writing style that the AI has,
and it is incredibly universal.
And that's why I don't use the AI to write the videos,
because I don't think it adds to the story.
I think it does quite the opposite.
You're probably correct.
You're probably not going to tell us what your day job is,
but what area is your day job?
Are you in entertainment? automotive?
I am very close to entertainment,
but I am not an automotive professional.
In any way. No, I wouldn't guess.
I'm just a guy who loves cars.
Oh, that's it.
So you're just a fan of the automotive world,
an automotive enthusiast.
And he has great observational powers.
Your observational powers remind me a little bit of Seinfeld,
because you go really, really granular and small.
You're calling out the people we all know
and saying some of the things we say privately
about the people that we're talking about.
And it's really, he gets it from a distance.
It's hilarious that it's caught on
when you're talking about such small, like,
hey, I know that guy.
Right. And it's inside baseball, but it's universal.
And that's why you know it's not AI,
because it's so specific, but universally appreciated.
It really takes what I call the 11th commandment,
which is don't take yourself too seriously.
Well, it's a great practitioner.
He is the ultimate practitioner of that.
You know, and I've said it before too, you know,
there's it was easy to kind of ignore this stuff
as AI slop and and not take it too seriously.
But I'm not sure you know this story.
But I was just at the Indy 500 and I happened to be
with some people that had worked on that Mercedes party,
the Sixth Street Bridge party. Right.
The party I was at where minutes later, his video came.
And they said, he goes, yeah, the Mercedes guys
aren't happy about Angela's death highway.
I went, I'm sorry.
What? The Mercedes people have awareness of ADHD.
Of ADHD. And they were like, yeah, they were not happy with.
NBC versus versus ADHD.
And I went, but still it's a remarkable thing to hear
that this global corporation is now looking at this guy
and his take in going, wow, we did not know, you know,
we weren't sure, you know, in that way, you are, you know,
shaping the influence of the automotive community
on all of these events.
You know, sometimes, you know, you give the appearance
that you hate all of the things like what's the stuff
that gets you the most upset that you're looking at
when it comes to an event or something that happens?
Well, you know, upset is a really interesting term
because it's actually kind of really comes from a place of love.
That's right, easy community.
And it's a thing of.
Yeah, when I see a OEM doing something that collectively
as a community, we don't feel right as car guys
because we were so used to soul an emotion.
Just kind of to give you an example with the Lucey stuff,
the AMG stuff.
Yeah, it's just it's what I think.
And it seems like people are enjoying this.
And that's the biggest surprise to me
because these are just my thoughts.
This I just kind of turned up a notch a little bit.
If we ever had an idea for a video, could we give it to you?
Zuckerman had an idea.
Go ahead, pitch your idea, Zuckerman.
Well, you mean leave him in the blue shoe?
Yeah, yeah. So we just did a blue shoe ad where.
Does he know what blue shoe is?
Do you know what blue shoe is?
It's not a customer, but I know what it is.
OK, so Spike, Spike reads their copy
and Spike reads their copy and says,
no more ruined moments.
And I and I love this thought of the ruined moment.
And then Lieberman is sitting at the end of the bed.
He's upset.
His wife is upset because there's been
a ruined moment. Not again.
Another ruined moment.
Car magazines.
He's got pastrami.
He's eating a pastrami or turkey leg.
And he can't get an erection.
And he can't get an erection.
And you know, it's just another ruined moment.
It's because, you know, it's it's perfect for this.
The ruined moment.
We're let's let me ask you this.
Where is this account going?
What is the plan for Angeles Death Highway?
You know, the plan is to tear everyone down
in a way that brings everyone together.
It is a way for me to kind of put my metaphorical mirror
up to the community and say, hey, guys,
this is not that serious.
And if I can continue to do that
and if I can continue to make people laugh,
then that's all I really want to do.
That's very insightful.
Now, I understand you a little better.
It's not about me, but it's about the community.
So when you're so when we're seeing you,
you know, go after these events and we're all in them
and you're saying, relax,
why are you guys taking this stuff so seriously?
Look at how you're a mirror to our little world.
I try to be. Yeah, that's it.
That's that's your take.
You're a mirror.
That that's good.
I really get that.
I really get this because this is we tease each other.
And I've always said, if I'm teasing you,
it's because I like you.
I may even love you.
If I'm not saying anything, that's actually a bad sign.
But if I'm actually paying attention and teasing you,
it's because I like you.
It's a compliment. Yes.
You've been made.
You made the video.
Yeah. Everybody who's been in one of these
has been made by ADHD.
Well, look, we really appreciate you coming on.
And taking the risk about being found out.
We're perfectly happy not knowing who you are
and whether you exist here.
It's going to stay that way.
It's going to stay that way.
I do not plan to let anyone know who I am
because I think if you know who I am,
it takes away from the fun.
It takes away from the fun.
That's right.
And I do.
One thing I do know about him is he's not in state.
Right. We don't know where in the world he's in Antarctica.
You know, Banksy is no longer fun that we know who that guy is.
He's our new. He's our new Banksy here.
Well, just amazing.
Well, ADHD, thank you for coming on the show.
And if we have more questions, we'll reach out
and congratulations on finding an audience.
And hopefully you'll be able to monetize it, get rich.
And someday come sit next to us and reveal your identity.
If you are going to reveal it, please save it for our show.
Will you?
I have no promises to make you reveal my identity.
OK, we will see where the future leads us.
Do you have any questions for us before I let you go?
I just want to say thank you for giving me the time.
And it was a lot of fun.
The platform. It's a lot of fun chatting with you, sir.
Yeah. Well, there you go, Zuckerman.
That's like that guy, a big exclusive, whoever he is.
If he's even a guy, we don't even know.
I like that person.
That bot.
Before we go, I should just talk about this lucid that's behind me
and Cameron, you can mop it down later.
But I'm going through a run of lucids that I haven't.
I've never driven the brand.
And I got to say, I really like what I'm driving.
This one's 100 and 38000 is tested.
800 and nineteen horsepower is zero to sixty in about three seconds.
The mileage is 500 and twelve miles.
That's remarkable. Not bad.
Massage seats, glass roof, retractable screen, front boot, back boot.
They've got these.
It's got a glass roof where you can just move the visors to the left or to the right.
And it's just gorgeous.
But but way better than the Model S.
Definitely viable. Wow.
Just a little expensive, you know, but the lease deals aren't so bad
when you go and you look at them.
What is the lease deal?
You know, 121100 for this guy.
This is the grand touring.
I was pleasantly surprised by this thing.
And I'm not going to do a full like chat about it or review yet
because we have the sapphire coming in after this.
And I'd rather talk about that one, but it's also been on the show.
Anyway, that's our show.
So come on, thank you for showing up while you were sick.
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About this episode
Ferrari Luce gets treated like a “secretly genius” status play: a $650,000 electric with a huge floating front wing, over 1,000 horsepower from independent motors, and a torque-control paddle. Hosts argue it won’t cannibalize Ferrari’s gas buyers, because some people want the badge for mystique and visibility—“this car is everywhere.” They also speculate on Ferrari’s strategy (including whether the upcoming “12 C” could get a manual) and wrap with EV luxury feature talk and a few racing/experience detours.
Original notes
Spike and Zuckerman go off on the new $650,000 electric Ferrari Luce designed by Jony Ive, debate whether it's a Ferrari or a very expensive Waymo, and Zuckerman reveals his freshly imported Alpina B10 Bi-Turbo. Plus, Spike recaps his wild days at the Indy 500, and an exclusive interview with the anonymous creator of viral Instagram account Angeles Death Highway.
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The Ferrari Luce is either a bold reinvention or a $650,000 mistake depending on who you ask. Zuckerman says he can't tell it apart from a Waymo. With Jony Ive's LoveFrom studio behind the design, five seats, four motors pushing 1,100 horsepower, and an Apple-esque interior full of tactile glass and aluminum switches, Ferrari is clearly going after a buyer who wants status, not lap times. The guys break down the business logic and compare it to buying hundred-dollar blueberries at Erewhon.
Zuckerman then pulls back the curtain on his latest acquisition: a 1993 Alpina B10 Bi-Turbo in Daytona Violet. Sequential twin turbos, 360 horsepower, Recaro seats, custom wood trim, a boost knob on the dash, and a trunk full of surprises. This is the car that made Alpina's reputation.
Spike recaps his five-day trip to Indianapolis for the Indy 500. Apache helicopters, the Wienermobile race with Andy Richter, a rave in the infield, and a photo-finish battle.
The centerpiece of the episode: an exclusive, fully masked interview with the anonymous creator of Angeles Death Highway, the viral Instagram account roasting the self-seriousness of local car culture. He explains his process, why Mercedes-Benz global reps were reportedly not happy about one of his parody videos, and what he's actually trying to do: hold up a mirror so the car community can laugh at itself.
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Timestamps:
00:00 - The Ferrari Luce DISASTER
07:08 - Ferrari 12Cilindri getting a manual
12:24 - Spike at the Indy 500
20:51 - Radimak is finally sentenced
26:46 - 1993 BMW Alpina B10 review
39:26 - An interview with Angeles Death Highway
49:57 - Lucid review
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