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YOUR Car Questions Answered | Q&A With a Former Car Dealer | Episode 1106

YOUR Car Questions Answered | Q&A With a Former Car Dealer | Episode 1106

CarEdge Live Jul 10, 2026 31 min
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About this episode

Ray and Zach run a Q&A focused on real buyer questions, including a wild case of a 2024 Ram 2500 Tradesman allegedly sitting on a dealer lot for 845 days. They call the dealership to confirm it’s still available and learn it’s a commercial “leftover” with low miles (under/around 200). They then estimate a realistic discount, arguing it likely needs 35–40% off MSRP due to age/depreciation. Using CarEdge search data, they compare against used listings and find some pricing that seems inconsistent, sparking debate about whether the market is being under- or over-priced.

Technical Too Afraid to Ask
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stock number

"Hey, Christian. My name is Zach. I'm just doing some research really quickly. I saw a vehicle for sale on your website. Can I give you the stock number? Can you confirm if it's still available for me?"

A stock number is like the dealer’s ID tag for a specific vehicle. It helps confirm you’re talking about the exact truck that’s listed on their website.

Concept

leftover units

"We've got space in the chat here saying I would go for a 2026 instead, not all leftover units are good deals. There was a reason why it's been sitting."

Leftover units are cars or trucks that didn’t sell when they first arrived. Sometimes they’re discounted, but sometimes there’s a reason they’ve been sitting, so the deal isn’t always great.

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MSRP

"It has a $60,000 selling price on the MSRP. They literally say on the website, call for pricing."

MSRP is the “sticker price” the manufacturer lists for the vehicle. The hosts compare discounts against MSRP to estimate what you should pay.

Car

Dodge Ram

"... a realistic discount? I get that. So it's a 2024 Ram 2500 tradesman. Okay. What I would do if it were ..."

A Ram 2500 Tradesman is a heavy-duty pickup truck meant for tough jobs like towing and hauling. The “Tradesman” part is a basic work-focused trim level, and “2024” is the model year. People bring up trucks like this when they’re talking about whether the price they’re seeing is a good deal.

Concept

depreciation

"And, and even though it's brand new, there is depreciation associated with a three year old truck."

Depreciation means the truck’s value goes down as it gets older. Even with low miles, a 3-year-old truck usually costs less than a brand-new one.

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VIN

"Sandy emailed in, what's a realistic discount for a Ram truck that's been sitting on the market for this long shared the VIN."

A VIN is like a vehicle’s unique ID number. Sharing the VIN helps confirm you’re talking about the exact same truck and not a similar one.

Car

2024 Ram 2500 Tradesman

"to 2024 Ram 2500 tradesmen. So let me go back to the car search this time... I hope someday that I have the same amount of confidence as the sales manager at Claremont Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram to sell a 2024 Ram 2500 pickup tradesman with 89,000 miles on it for $42,000."

This is a work-focused Ram 2500 pickup. In this part of the show, they’re looking at how much a 2024 model costs when it’s used and has a lot of miles.

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tradesmen

"We said Ram. Ram. Ram. We said 2,500. 2,500 tradesmen. 2,500. All right. Let me grab this. And then we said tradesmen."

“Tradesman” is a specific version (trim) of the Ram 2500 meant for work and fleet use. It generally comes with fewer extras than higher-end trims, so it can be cheaper.

Term

Windows sticker

"They're going to have the Windows sticker on the Carfax. Let's see. Wait for it. Yeah, Windows sticker. Nice. Okay. So originally $71,115."

A window sticker is the original price/option sheet that came with the car when it was new. They’re trying to find it so they can see what the truck cost originally.

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Carfax

"They're going to have the Windows sticker on the Carfax. Let's see. Wait for it. Yeah, Windows sticker. Nice."

Carfax is a service that provides a vehicle history report. In this case, they’re using it to find the original window sticker information for the truck.

Term

Cummins diesel engine

"Now, these diesel engines are bulletproof. So that's, yeah, I see some people in the chat actually saying that, yeah, the diesel engines, the Cummins diesel engine, that is why it's going to hold its value better."

Cummins is a famous maker of heavy-duty diesel engines. The host is saying that this diesel setup tends to last a long time and keeps its value better than some other engines.

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diesel engines

"Now, these diesel engines are bulletproof. So that's, yeah, I see some people in the chat actually saying that, yeah, the diesel engines, the Cummins diesel engine, that is why it's going to hold its value better."

Diesel engines work differently than gas engines and are often known for strong pulling power. The host is saying that diesel engines tend to be tough and keep their value better.

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realistic discount

"The question we were answering is, what's a realistic discount for a Ram pickup truck that's been sitting for almost, no, that's more than two years."

A realistic discount is how much money you can actually expect the dealer to take off the price. If a truck has been sitting for a long time, the dealer usually has more reason to lower the price.

Ram pickup truck
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Ram pickup truck

"The question we were answering is, what's a realistic discount for a Ram pickup truck that's been sitting for almost, no, that's more than two years."

Ram makes pickup trucks. When a truck sits on a dealer lot for a long time, the dealer may need to lower the price to sell it.

Concept

fine wine

"And it'll be on their lot for $1,200 some days because, you know, they subscribe to the, it's like a fine wine. It gets better with age."

They’re using a “fine wine” joke to say the longer a car sits, the more likely the dealer will have to deal on price to sell it.

Car

2026 Toyota Tacoma

"2026 Toyota Tacoma. Yes. Now, first things first, for a lease deal, am I getting the amount of information?"

The Toyota Tacoma is a popular pickup truck. For leases, the “residual” number matters a lot because it affects your monthly payment and how good the deal really is.

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residual percentage

"Well, there's a lot of things missing. How about the residual percentage? What is the residual percentage?"

In a lease, the residual percentage is the estimated value of the car at the end of the lease. If the car is expected to be worth more, your monthly payment is usually lower.

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money factor

"What's the money factor that they're charging? So we need to know. ... Incentives from discount is that manufacturing day? And what's the money factor?"

The money factor is basically the “interest rate” part of a lease payment. If it’s high, your monthly payment goes up. Even with a good discount on the car price, a bad (high) money factor can make the lease not worth it.

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dock fee

"Yeah, there's $900 profit in the dock fee."

A dock fee is a charge dealers add for getting the car from where it arrives (like a port) to the dealership. It can be inflated, and in this case the host suggests the dealer is making extra profit on it.

Term

36-month lease

"The residual is $40,477 on a 36-month lease. The selling price is $50,300."

This just means the lease lasts three years. The lease length matters because the payment math is based on what the car is expected to be worth at the end of that exact time period.

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incentives

"Incentives from discount is that manufacturing day? And what's the money factor?"

Incentives are manufacturer promotions that can lower the cost of leasing. They might be a discount or a better lease rate. If you don’t know the incentives, you can’t tell whether the dealer’s numbers are actually helping you.

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base rate

"Who cares about the money factor as long as you get the base rate without markups?"

The base rate is the “starting” lease interest rate before the dealer adds extra profit. If you get the base rate, your payment should be lower than if they mark it up.

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acquisition fee

"We've got an acquisition fee, which makes me immediately think that this is a lease."

An “acquisition fee” is a charge to set up the lease. It’s often part of lease paperwork, so if you see it, you should assume you’re looking at a lease deal.

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documentation fee

"Documentation fee of $85. That's California. California has a cap at $85."

A “documentation fee” is what the dealer charges for handling the paperwork. Some states limit how much they can charge, so it can be different depending on location.

Term

electronic vehicle registration

"Electronic vehicle registration, real or not real? I'm assuming that's real."

“Electronic vehicle registration” is a registration-related fee the state charges to process your vehicle registration electronically. The exact cost depends on the state.

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disposition fee

"So the disposition fee at the end of the lease, if you just turn it in and walk away, is $400."

A “disposition fee” is what you may pay when you turn the car back in at the end of a lease. It’s usually a set fee, so it can affect the true cost of the lease.

Car

2026 Kia EV9 GT line all-wheel drive

"Yes. 2026 Kia EV9 GT line all-wheel drive. We've got an 811. This is the lease."

This is a Kia EV9 electric SUV, and “GT line” is a higher-trim version with more features. “All-wheel drive” means power goes to more than one axle, which can help traction in different conditions.

Term

15,000 miles per year

"Yep, a loose quote. Yep, $811 monthly payment for three years, 15,000 miles per year. And zero due at lease signing."

Leases usually come with a mileage limit. If you drive more than the allowed miles, you may owe extra charges when you return the car.

Term

zero due at lease signing

"Yep, $811 monthly payment for three years, 15,000 miles per year. And zero due at lease signing."

This means you don’t have to pay anything up front when the lease starts. Instead, the cost shows up in the monthly payment.

Term

residual value

"Let's see. I don't see the support. There's only a $4,000 discount. Let's break it down. No, I think where the support's going to show up is in the residual value or the money factor because yeah, this is what's interesting."

Residual value is what the car is expected to be worth when the lease ends. If that expected value is higher, your lease payment is often lower.

Term

rebate

"That's a rebate from Kia to compensate for the fact that it's an EV."

A rebate is money the manufacturer gives you to lower the deal price. In this lease example, the rebate helps reduce the starting price number the lease is based on.

Term

EV

"That's a rebate from Kia to compensate for the fact that it's an EV."

EV means electric vehicle. It’s a car that runs on electricity from a battery, and the speaker is saying there are incentives to help offset the cost.

Term

capitalized cost reduction

"So $73,085 less 13.4 and $11,470, so that is going to be a capitalized cost reduction to ultimately lower the selling price to the lease company to $61,000."

When you lease a car, the leasing company starts with a “price” for the car. A capitalized cost reduction is any discount that lowers that starting price, which can make the lease cheaper.

Term

cap cost

"That's how much depreciation you're going to have to be paying for is the delta between the cap cost, which is $61,000 and the residual."

“Cap cost” is the lease’s starting price for the car—the number the leasing math uses. If you lower that number, the lease usually gets cheaper.

Term

lease cash promotion

"We had the QEV9 on here with a $12,000 lease cash promotion right now, but obviously this particular deal was even more than that."

A lease cash promotion is manufacturer money offered to make leasing cheaper. It’s usually applied like a discount that lowers the lease cost.

Place

California

"And a 5% discount in California, I guess that is reasonable. So I appreciate your perspective. So in other words, in California, you can get $16,400 in rebates..."

California is the state being discussed where you can get extra money off (rebates) and an additional discount. Deals can differ depending on where you live.

Place

Conway, South Carolina

"Oh, this is Conway, South Carolina, ladies and gentlemen."

Conway, South Carolina is the city being mentioned where the dealership contact is located. It’s just location context for the pricing discussion.

Place

Washington, DC

"Yeah, I'm up here in Washington, DC. I was telling your sales associate, I don't want to waste your guys' time."

Washington, DC is where the caller says they are. It’s part of the conversation context, not a technical car topic.

Term

Ram trucks

"Now, I know on Ram trucks, now I know they're going to say, well, on new 2026s."

Ram is a truck brand. The speaker is talking about how Ram’s deals and discounts can change depending on the year of the truck.

Term

dealer has to discount the car from their own pocket

"dealer has to discount the car from their own pocket. That's why it sits."

Sometimes the dealer can’t rely on manufacturer discounts, so they lower the price using their own profit. That’s why a “discount” might not show up the way you expect.

Concept

depreciating in value

"It's not appreciating in value. It's depreciating in value. Take whatever the hell you can get for it and move on in life."

Depreciation means the truck is worth less as time passes. If it sits unsold, it usually loses value even faster.

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