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Your Porsche Is Dying In The Garage (And You're Helping It)

Your Porsche Is Dying In The Garage (And You're Helping It)

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Porsches don’t do well left to “sit to death”—the hosts connect garage storage to battery and tire problems, and explain why a maintainer isn’t always enough. They also dig into battery testing, stressing that “amperage”/cold-cranking-amps matter more than voltage. Short starts in winter can leave the battery undercharged and add wear risk via cold-start fueling that washes oil off cylinder walls. The conversation then pivots to bore scoring: learn the signs, use a bore scope, and even pair inspections with oil strategy and ignition service.

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fluids need to be moving

"Yeah, I would say these cars will sit to death, they want to be exercised. I was watching some of your previous videos and you nailed it on the head, right? Like fluids need to be moving, that's how stuff stays lubricated, that's how tires don't get flat spotted, right?"

Car fluids are meant to circulate while you drive. If the car sits for a long time, some fluids can settle or lose their protective film. Driving helps keep things lubricated and helps prevent problems from long storage.

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tire flat spotting

"Like fluids need to be moving, that's how stuff stays lubricated, that's how tires don't get flat spotted, right?"

If a car sits too long, the tires can get a temporary flat spot where they touch the ground. When you drive again, you may feel a vibration. Moving the car periodically helps prevent it.

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battery maintainer

"And then a big one that people don't actually think about too much is the vehicle battery. Your battery does not like sitting. Even if it's on a battery maintainer, there's, you know, it wants to actually see some sort of drain and some sort of recharge from the alternator."

A battery maintainer is a device that keeps your car battery charged while the car is parked. The discussion here is that some batteries—especially older lead-acid types—may not be happy if they stay on the maintainer for too long without any real cycling. The battery can still need some normal charging and discharging behavior.

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lead acid battery

"Yeah, it does. I've noticed with cars that sit on battery maintainers for a long period of time, especially if it's a lead acid battery, you'll start to evaporate the fluid inside the battery."

A lead-acid battery is the common type of car battery. In this episode, they say that if a lead-acid battery sits on a charger/maintainer for a long time, the battery fluid can evaporate. If the fluid level drops too far, the battery can start to fail.

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plates can short out to each other

"it's the plates inside the battery that don't like it. And that's where you could get a short, like plates can short out to each other. And now you have a dead battery when you go to start the car."

A battery has internal metal plates that are supposed to be separated. If they touch (short), the battery can basically stop working and you’ll get a dead battery when you try to start.

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voltage drops

"It's amazing to me, Joe, like how sensitive more modern portions are to voltage drops. Even I have a GMC truck and it was throwing all kinds of crazy codes..."

Voltage drop means the battery voltage dips when you try to start the car. Newer cars are more sensitive to that dip, so they may throw warnings or not start even if the battery looks okay at rest.

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Chevrolet Volt

"...f crazy codes, but it was still showing like 11.8 volts on a 12 volt battery. But you would have thought..."

The Chevrolet Volt is a car that can run on electricity, and it can also use a gas engine to help keep going when the battery runs low. The conversation about volts is about the car’s battery and electrical system readings. Those numbers can help show whether the battery system is behaving normally.

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distilled water

"You can add distilled water, you can pull the caps off, and there's little levels in there where you could see the water needs to be up to..."

Distilled water is the safe liquid to add when a battery’s fluid level is low. It avoids minerals that can mess up how the battery works.

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amperage

"Well, you need amperage. Amperage is what gets the voltage to the starter. So it's almost like having a water tower full of water, but nothing's actually moving that water to the faucet in your house."

Amperage is how much “push” the battery can send to the starter. You can have a battery that reads okay on a volt meter, but still not have enough power to crank the engine.

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cold cranking amps

"And so that's why you see actual testers, they'll look for cold cranking amps to test the battery versus voltage because the amps are where it's at."

Cold cranking amps are a battery’s starting power when it’s cold. That’s why testers focus on CCA—because the real question is whether the battery can crank the engine, not just what it reads on a volt meter.

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battery tenders

"Where we put our cars under a blanket for between three and six months... Whereas other people are like, Nope, when it's away, it's away, leave it away, keep it on a tender."

A battery tender is a device that keeps a car battery charged while the car sits. It’s meant to prevent the battery from going flat during long storage.

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idle

"So your first one, taking the car out, letting it idle, you will also idle that car to death. What does that mean? Well, so we'll stay on the battery topic, right?"

Idling is when the engine is running but the car isn’t moving. The hosts are saying that letting it idle for a long time can be a bad idea, especially for battery recovery and lubrication.

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battery to recover

"And if you start your car, it actually takes 20 minutes of driving for the battery to recover from you starting the car."

“Battery recovery” means the battery needs time to recharge after you start the car. If you only idle for a short time, it may not recharge enough.

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starter

"There's a lot of draw from the starter when you start your car for the first time."

The starter is what uses the battery to turn the engine over when you first start the car. Because it uses a lot of power, the battery may need time to recharge after.

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catalytic converters

"Porsche's design model for getting the catalytic converters up to 10 quickly is to actually dump a little bit of extra fuel in on cold start. And that unburnt fuel makes it down into the cats, where it then blows up and gets your cats up to 10 super quick."

Catalytic converters are parts in the exhaust that clean up the engine’s fumes. When the car is cold, they need to heat up quickly so they can start cleaning the exhaust effectively.

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cold start

"Porsche's design model for getting the catalytic converters up to 10 quickly is to actually dump a little bit of extra fuel in on cold start."

A cold start is the first engine start after the engine and exhaust system have been sitting and cooled down. Because the engine and emissions components are not at temperature yet, the car often uses richer fueling and different control strategies to stabilize combustion and heat the exhaust quickly.

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unburnt fuel washing down the cylinder wall

"Now, stop it, you bomb your cats to warm them up. Do you really? Yeah. And so with that, it sort of causes cylinder, what am I thinking? Wash out. Yeah, you have gas like running down the sides of your cylinder washing off that oil protective layer. And I would imagine that leads to the bore scoring."

They’re saying that during cold starts, the car may add extra fuel, and some of it can end up where it shouldn’t. That can strip away the protective oil layer inside the cylinder, making wear more likely.

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RPMs

"But keep it under, what would you say, for RPMs? 3,500 RPMs is where the engine goes from low lift to high lift."

RPMs tell you how fast the engine is spinning. Higher RPMs usually mean more stress, so the hosts are saying to keep it lower until the engine is warm.

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low lift to high lift

"3,500 RPMs is where the engine goes from low lift to high lift. That's, you know, if you could see it on a dyno chart..."

This is about how far the engine’s valves open. The engine can switch to a “more aggressive” valve setting at higher RPMs, and they’re saying to wait until the oil is warm before you let it do that.

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dyno chart

"That's, you know, if you could see it on a dyno chart, if you ever see a dyno chart, you see a nice arc, and then it kind of flat spots..."

A dyno chart is the graph produced by a dynamometer test, showing how power/torque (and related outputs) change with engine speed. The host describes a shape on the chart—an arc, a flat spot, then the rest of the curve—used to explain why they’d avoid certain RPM ranges.

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oil temp gauge

"I wouldn't really go into high lift until the oil temp gauge is at dead center. And if you're someone who's monitors engine oil by temperature, it's going to be 90C or 194 degrees Fahrenheit."

The oil temperature gauge tells you how hot the engine oil is. Cold oil doesn’t protect as well, so they’re saying to wait until it warms up before pushing the engine.

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lugging your engine

"Another one that I heard of, which I believe is also true is lugging your engine. So lugging your engine is going to be, you're going up a slight hill and maybe you're in sixth gear..."

Lugging is when you’re trying to climb or accelerate while the engine is turning too slowly. Instead of downshifting, you press the gas and the engine has to work harder at low RPM.

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bore scoring

"…we're talking about bore score and we're taught in, you know, 996, 997… Did you see 997.2s with this issue?"

Bore scoring means the inside of the engine cylinders gets scratched or worn. When it gets bad enough, the engine can start misfiring, and the fix can be expensive.

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Porsche 996

"…we're talking about bore score and we're taught in, you know, 996, 997, when Porsche went to 997.2…"

The Porsche 996 is a specific generation of the 911. Here it’s mentioned because people used to learn about certain engine problems on that generation.

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direct fuel injection

"…they changed the engine architecture to direct fuel injection, DFI, the, everyone thought you were safe because you didn't have the IMS issue anymore…"

Direct fuel injection means the engine sprays fuel straight into the combustion area. In this episode, it’s mentioned because people expected that change to prevent a specific kind of engine problem.

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IMS issue

"…everyone thought you were safe because you didn't have the IMS issue anymore and the bore scoring…"

IMS is a part inside some Porsche engines. People talk about an “IMS issue” when that part’s bearing can fail, and this episode contrasts that with bore scoring.

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misfire

"…bore scoring happens well down the road… when it starts to actually become a problem where you'll see a misfire…"

A misfire is when the engine doesn’t burn fuel correctly in one cylinder. The hosts connect it to cylinder damage from bore scoring.

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bore scope

"…had a had a hard misfire, put a bore scope down the cylinder and it looked as worse as you can imagine…"

A bore scope is a tiny camera that lets you look inside the engine cylinder. It helps confirm whether the cylinder walls are damaged.

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fingernail test

"…Porsche had us go the extra step where we pull the engine, fully disassemble, and their rule is if you can catch your fingernail on one of those lines, it's definitely toast…"

The “fingernail test” is a practical diagnostic rule used here to judge cylinder-wall damage severity: if the speaker says Porsche’s rule is that you can catch your fingernail on the scoring lines, the damage is considered beyond acceptable limits. It’s a quick way to decide whether the engine needs full teardown and replacement.

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Porsche 356

"...n and so un-German. I'm thinking like back in the 356 one, like when they're like making panels with li..."

The Porsche 356 is an older sports car made by Porsche. People talk about it because it’s from the early days of the company and is known for careful bodywork and construction. It’s often mentioned when discussing how cars were built back then.

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Porsche 911 Carrera S

"But at the same time, I have a buddy who has a 07 Carrera S and he tracks that car twice a year. So it gets flogged properly and he has one line down the center of cylinder five."

The Porsche 911 Carrera S is a sportier version of the 911. The hosts use a 2007 example to show that even with regular tracking and preventative care, bore scoring can still show up and remain visible.

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cylinder five

"So it gets flogged properly and he has one line down the center of cylinder five. I think it is."

Cylinder five just means one particular cylinder inside the engine. They’re pointing out that the visible wear showed up in that specific cylinder.

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Amsoil 550

"And ours just happens to be Amsoil 550 with a can and a half of Lickl Mali MOS2."

They’re using an Amsoil oil they call “550” as the starting oil for track days. The point is that it gets “thinner” after hard use, so it ends up closer to the viscosity they’re targeting.

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oil shear down

"Yeah. And the 550 for us was because at the track, oil will actually shear down. So, what does that mean? So you'll start the weekend at a 5W50, but as the oil starts to break down from high, higher temperatures…"

Engine oil can get “thinner” after it’s stressed a lot, like during track driving. So the oil you start with can act more like a lighter oil later in the session.

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5W50

"So you'll start the weekend at a 5W50, but as the oil starts to break down from high, higher temperatures…"

“5W50” tells you how thick the oil is when it’s cold and when the engine is hot. It’s basically a label for oil thickness.

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Porsche recommends 0W40

"when it, it shears down, it's what the manufacturer is looking for a recommend, Porsche recommends 0W40. That's where it's happiest."

Porsche’s “0W40” recommendation is the oil type they believe works best. In this story, they’re trying to make their track oil behavior line up with that target.

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5W40

"And so we kind of prepare for that oil to actually shear down to a 5W40."

“5W40” is a type of engine oil thickness rating. Here, they’re aiming for the oil to end up acting like 5W40 after it’s been stressed on track.

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MLS2

"And then the MLS2 gets your molybdenum, which is the core ingredient in the MLS2."

MLS2 is an oil additive that includes molybdenum. The idea is to help protect engine surfaces when lubrication is under heavy stress.

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parts per million

"Normal off the shelf motor oils will have like 80 parts per million. And we are looking for somewhere around three to 400 parts per million."

“Parts per million” is just a way to say how concentrated an additive is in the oil. Higher ppm here means more of the additive they’re trying to use.

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DT 40 driven motor oil

"So DT 40 driven motor oil, they've definitely, they figured it out. You don't have to be a mad scientist."

This is a specific engine oil they’re talking about, including its viscosity rating (the “40”). Viscosity affects how well the oil lubricates moving parts. The hosts are saying the oil choice lines up with good wear results.

Concept

baselining my cars

"I'm a firm believer of baselining my cars. And by that, I mean if I get a car and I don't quite know the history of its service, in my mind, I think an old airplane mechanic taught me this."

Baselining means you set the car up so you know exactly what condition it’s in at the start. The host does this by replacing important fluids so the car starts “fresh.” Then you can track what happens later and tell whether problems are getting better or worse.

Company

Blackstone Labs

"And speaking with another Joe from Blackstone Labs, you know, he talked about how the bore scoring events in the early 997 motors were under 4%."

Blackstone Labs is a company that tests used engine oil to see what kind of wear is happening inside the engine. Here, they’re used as a reference point for how often a specific Porsche cylinder issue showed up in the past. It’s basically “oil test data” turned into an engine health story.

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spark plug holes

"through the spark plug holes and you use your camera and take a look at the cylinder walls. [1134.7s] Unfortunately, the piston sits at the bottom of the cylinder in that respect and so therefore is [1139.2s] hiding the bottom part of the cylinder."

Spark plug holes are where the spark plugs screw into the engine. Taking them out gives you a way to look down into the cylinder with a camera.

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sump

"And so the other way to go is through the bottom of the [1143.3s] motor and you go in through the sump and you check the cylinder from the bottom where I understand [1148.3s] and I might be wrong that bore scoring starts at the bottom first and at least the earlier motors."

The sump is the bottom area of the engine where oil gathers. It’s the place you’d access if you want to inspect things from underneath.

Car

Toyota A90

"Would you have one way that you like more than another? Tops the easiest, right? That's an easy, you know, get in there with a camera. Hopefully that camera has like a 90 degree function so that you can get a good straight on view to it. It's something that you can also pair with replacing"

The Toyota Supra is a sports car from Toyota. It’s known for performance and for being a popular car to drive and film. In this conversation, it sounds like the focus is on how easy it is to get in and capture footage.

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ignition coils

"Hopefully that camera has like a 90 degree function so that [1164.6s] you can get a good straight on view to it. It's something that you can also pair with replacing [1170.2s] your spark plugs, ignition coils while you're in there."

Ignition coils help create the electricity that makes the spark plugs fire. If you’re already removing spark plugs, it can be a good time to replace the coils too.

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driven oil

"And you've just bought yourself or you've bought the current owner of free oil change at [1197.3s] that point? Yeah, yeah, exactly. More or less with driven oil, hopefully. With driven oil."

“Driven oil” means oil that’s already been used while the car was running. The point is that used oil can tell you more about what the engine has been doing.

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