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Over on YouTube, you've probably seen a lot of super cool car collections.
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I mean, YouTube is filled with amazing rides with amazing content creators.
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But did you know that each and every single video they make costs thousands?
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I mean, thousands and thousands of dollars to make each single video they produce for their channel.
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Now, that adds up real fast.
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I guess the real question is, if you spend that much money on a YouTube video, is it worth it?
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Is it worth it to them?
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Does it actually bring in the eyeballs to your channel?
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Well, maybe, maybe not.
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We're going to find out all that and more on this episode.
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Okay. I got the legend himself.
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Mr. Big YouTube Courage on the line.
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How are you doing today, buddy?
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Hey, I'm doing well.
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Given that we're going to be talking about big YouTubers,
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I don't think I can wear that hat today.
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But I guess I'm in that crowd, so I'll take it.
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You know, you've been doing YouTube for a little while,
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and then you've done YouTube with other things and other projects.
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And when you create a video on YouTube, you have to think about all the structure,
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all the things, paint it all out, I guess, or draw it all out and figure it all out
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I know that you've done a lot more on shorts versus long form type stuff.
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Do you find one easier or about the same to do?
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Or what do you like better, you know, going back and forth?
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Yeah, it's a bit of a mixture.
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Like I definitely am fighting for the long form content because I just know that that's
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one that's just, I enjoy making that more because you just,
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you have the ability to really like tell a story and you have the time to tell a story.
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And to be totally honest, like I just, I really get frustrated with like filming things in portrait mode.
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It's my biggest thing because obviously with shorts and Instagram reels,
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like, you know, your videos have to be in that nine by 16.
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Yeah, but you can crop it that way.
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I've done that too.
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I did a video test run yesterday with my camera in the studio here,
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and I was going to clip it and make something for Instagram.
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And I thought, like, well, maybe if I can edit this in my photos or whatever on my phone,
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and I was able to crop it into that long, you know, length phone version style.
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And it'll get okay. I think it does. Okay.
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You know, so you can crop things and edit things for, you know, social media clips.
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Yeah. No, there's definitely ways to make it work.
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And yeah, I've had a few clips where, you know, I've maybe shot it as a long form
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and I'll go back and go back and reframe it for more like a real or short.
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But I definitely, I like both.
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I think they really do both have their place.
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I tend to now like, I actually just recently put out a short, just a small plug on just a car
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company that I feel like people just have forgotten about this company Vector from like the 90s,
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early 2000s, and just came, you know, researched some cool facts and pulled it together.
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And it actually is doing pretty well.
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Like it's one of my shorts in a while where like the overall engagement has been really strong.
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And it was just, you know, it's cool to kind of, you know,
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get back to maybe something that I was doing before and actually see some,
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you know, see some fruition from that.
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But I still am, you know, toying with, you know, now,
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how do I want to structure the channel where I do want to continue to do long form?
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Like I want to continue to come up with ideas that allow me to make a longer form video.
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Well, we see long form on YouTube.
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What is like a time limit for like a long form?
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What would you consider like a long form video?
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Basically it's anything over.
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I think the YouTube actually considers anything over four minutes.
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I think it's a long form video.
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So, I mean, you could make, yeah, like, you know, technically,
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if you made just a four, because the limit on shorts is three minutes.
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You used to be one minute, I thought, or it was one and a half.
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Yeah. They extended it a few years ago.
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But yeah, you're right.
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Before it was, it was a minute and that was, you know,
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you figured out how to get whatever point across you.
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You wanted to get across in a minute, but now it's three minutes.
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But yeah, anything longer than that is considered a long form video.
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Really for, you know, three minutes and beyond.
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So, I mean, we're talking three minutes.
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We got people now that do like, you know, 30, 40 hour long videos now,
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you know, all of those get clumped into that long form
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type video style now at this point in YouTube's mind.
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Yeah. Well, I mean, I love watching some YouTube,
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although I have not watched as much YouTube.
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Honestly, I haven't watched as much YouTube as I did a while ago.
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And I think a lot of people, generally speaking,
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probably haven't watched as much as they did, like say during the pandemic.
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When a lot of people were locked up during lockdown and what do you do?
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You watch Netflix, you watch whatever's on TV,
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watch the same movies you've seen years ago
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because they were not making new movies.
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And then you watch tons of YouTube content
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because you're sitting home, sitting there,
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physically in front of a screen, doing your Zoom calls for work
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or school or whatever you're doing.
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And then you just sit there and watch whatever YouTuber is doing
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great, wonderful YouTube stuff.
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But unfortunately for a lot of those guys,
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if they were like car related content,
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there's only so much stuff you can do as a car content creator.
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I guess if you're like in the multitude of like very well off,
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very, very wealthy where you can buy Lamborghinis,
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Ferrari's, Corvettes and just, you know,
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flip them, trade them, work on them, showcase that stuff.
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Or perhaps maybe even like a big, like a big media company
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that has a big YouTube channel that covers the kind of same stuff.
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Yeah. It's an interesting space.
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I definitely have some go-to YouTubers that I watch.
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I really enjoy their content.
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I feel like they find ways to really tell stories
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with their content that almost sort of transcends
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the car industry itself.
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I really love history of car companies
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and learning about things about either certain cars
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or that company that really defined maybe like an era of cars
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or like a genre of cars.
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And so there's some YouTubers that I feel like
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really have carved out a niche of bringing something to the table
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that's not just maybe the generic,
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I bought a supercar and I'm like modding the supercar.
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I'm taking it to these events.
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They found a way to really sort of transcend that a bit,
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but it's costly to figure out what really works.
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And if the algorithm changes or people's interest level changes,
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if you're not able to roll with those punches,
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like I think we were talking about previously,
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you have to be able to adapt or else you're gonna find yourself
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in a situation where you're just sticking to something like,
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oh, this is gonna work forever.
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It just doesn't. We've seen that multiple times.
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Especially as a content creator,
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whether you're doing content for cars or content for anything,
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really, I guess it kind of depends on getting new people
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interested in your content and what makes people
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interested in your content and what makes your content
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greater or better than somebody else's content.
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And I think in the car space,
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when it comes to cool cars and cars on YouTube
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car content creators,
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a lot of my found are either the average people
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that are like wrenching on their cars in their garage
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and showing you like modifications they've done.
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And it seems a little more like grassroots,
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a little more like in the garage with a buddy kind of a thing
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And then he got the exact opposite,
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which is like these multimillion-dollar collections
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of these like, you know, rich YouTubers
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that are taking their Ferrari out,
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their Lamborghini out,
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they're going to the dealership,
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talking about trading cars and looking at cars
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and they're going to car auctions
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and they're going raceways.
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And they got these like big production companies
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that are making these YouTube videos
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that are very, very well produced.
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They are literally the cost to make one of those YouTube videos
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has got to be maybe $100,000 per video to make that,
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just to create the video.
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You got multiple cameras.
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You got, you know, I mean,
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lots of people that are paid on the payroll
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that are there, multiple locations,
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and some multiple vehicles you're using,
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you know, paying for the vehicles,
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maintenance of the vehicles,
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buying the vehicles, even renting the vehicles.
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You know, you have all these moving parts
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that it's literally like a movie production
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every single video.
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So you have to have a solid return on your investment.
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And what the funny thing is,
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is that the guy who's doing the little shop in his garage,
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you know, working on his old like VW bug or whatever,
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he might get just the same amount of eyeballs
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on his videos as the mega shows do.
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But the mega shows cost way more to produce.
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So they're probably, yeah,
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they're probably hurting in the long run.
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If the views go down, the algorithm changes,
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something happens, then what do they do?
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No, I think you're really hitting the nail on the head there
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because I mean, if you're looking at this really,
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you know, because people do look at YouTube as a business.
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Like it's an opportunity, you know,
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if you're taking it seriously and you're willing
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to get to the requirements of doing so
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with like YouTube's algorithm and everything,
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like if you're looking at this as a way
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to generate some type of income, whether big or small,
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like you kind of have to look at it like a business.
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And ROI is obviously one of the biggest parts of a business
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is, you know, what's my return on investment
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for when I'm investing in the product
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that I'm bringing to the market,
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you know, obviously of video and content
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and things you're bringing to the YouTube platform
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and you're looking for some kind of monetary benefit from that.
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Even if it's something you really enjoy,
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you got a passion for, like the reason
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why you're really building out the videos
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because you want to bring that to people
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that are probably going to enjoy it.
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And yeah, what you said about, you know,
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people that are kind of doing this,
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they have more of that grassroots mentality
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to, you know, creating content,
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they have that ability to max out their ROI with,
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you know, again, it's just them filming,
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like maybe they have a few different cameras,
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but, you know, they're not going crazy
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with a whole production team and editors
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and things like that, writers and all of those kinds of things
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versus, you know, I think there was a wave of,
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you know, maybe more corporate entities
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seeing just the growth that some of these channels
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were having and saying, oh yeah, we can create this,
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you know, and, you know, we got the resources
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to create, you know, to fund it
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and have all of these production teams
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and things like that.
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Let's pump money into this and create this,
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you know, grandiose content that, you know,
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on the surface, like, I mean, you would think,
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like just put more quality and production into it
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and it'll make it awesome.
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But at the end of the day,
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I think we really started to see that, like,
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you know, those channels started to just blend
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right into the grassroots channels.
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And like for like, one, does it make sense
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when, yeah, you spend $100,000 on a video
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and get X amount of views?
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Whereas like the other guy down the street
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that's just got a couple of cameras
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and filming something in his garage
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can do the same view count
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and didn't spend anywhere near that.
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I think you just got to-
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Yeah, but on that same note though,
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like the bigger budget companies
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have the bigger marketing teams behind it
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where the smaller guy, like you, me,
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we don't have a big marketing team
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so we can't spend, you know,
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an additional $100,000 on marketing
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because a lot of those bigger YouTube channels,
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I know they got to be pushing marketing somewhere,
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ads and stuff everywhere.
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Doesn't YouTube allow you to buy ads for your channel?
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You can do that, right?
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Have you ever thought about doing that
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or how does it work?
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I looked into it because when I was getting,
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you know, really getting serious about it,
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I do actually use a course that, you know,
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sort of gives you the ability to kind of look through,
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you know, do title analysis
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and different things like that.
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But I looked into it, but I really have, you know,
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tried to do both sides of things.
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The positives of doing that, which, you know,
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are obviously you get more views
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or, you know, you drive more traffic,
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but I've saw a lot of negatives on the side of,
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you know, it's because it's inflating
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really the numbers and it's technically artificial.
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I've seen that work against a lot of channels
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as I've done more research on it.
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And so it's, it's not something I've done yet.
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And really as I've started to research it more,
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it's I'm leaning towards not really doing that
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because it seems like in the long run, if, you know,
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without creating that general,
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general organic, you know, traffic to your channel,
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anything that's pumped in and inflated
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is really short-lived.
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And it doesn't really bolster
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the overall growth of the channel.
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But that's just my opinion.
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Yeah, but you also have to have like that sticky factor.
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I mean, getting people to press play
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Getting them to press play twice, that's a little difficult.
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Getting them to subscribe way difficult.
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And so even if someone's subscribed to your channel,
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I've noticed this too, there's plenty of channels
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I subscribe to in car related shows.
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And if the algorithm is kind of a one and done.
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If the algorithm isn't seeing me like watch that type of content,
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it's only going to feed me content.
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It sees me interested in or watching in the moment.
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And that's the thing with these algorithms.
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They kind of change around.
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So a lot of these shows, all these YouTube channels
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are constantly pivoting,
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trying to find ways to get people interested in their content.
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And like I said, one way is they could probably dump more money into production,
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dump more money into crazier cars, crazier stunts, crazier stuff.
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I mean, look at Mr. Beast videos where we're crushing a Lamborghini
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or we're giving Lamborghinis away or whatever a crazy stunt is.
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And that's kind of how I think in the car space,
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it was what people don't really think about is that
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if you were a content creator in the car space,
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especially on YouTube, is that when you're filming content,
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what kind of content is that?
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And can you like easily recreate that content week after week,
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video after video easily?
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And if you're doing like, oh, we're buying a new Ferrari this week,
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or we're going to take our Ferrari to this track,
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or we're going to be racing this,
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or we're going, if it's a lot of production, a lot of stuff,
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that's a lot of money, man.
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Each video could cost like $100,000.
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They'd be more than that.
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I don't know, but it's very expensive.
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And to try to do that week after week for SL Indie creators,
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We can't keep up with that.
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We can't try to compete with that kind of stuff.
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So I'd say like, why try to compete with that kind of
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production level as an Indie creator,
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I think we find your own way and do what works best for you,
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what you can control.
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Yeah, I think that's it.
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There maybe are some things that you can pull and take away
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and try them out on your channel to see how that drives growth.
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But in terms of thinking like, oh, that recipe of just
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keep going bigger, keep going bigger.
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I think people are knowing now that that really just isn't,
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that isn't the way.
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Unless you just really have the expendable income to do it.
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Or maybe like a big name too.
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Cause I think that like, say Jay Leno's garage or whatever,
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you know, he's got a big name celebrity kind of stuff.
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It pulls in celebrities and a lot of these YouTubers,
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a lot of these even podcasters and stuff too,
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that have big names on their show and they have big celebrities
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that come in and it's all shot and camera.
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It looks great and everything.
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I like great stuff.
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But just because you make this wonderful like piece of content
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that looks great and everything and all that great stuff,
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doesn't mean that anyone's going to listen to it or watch it.
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There's no guarantee anyone's going to like it.
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Doesn't guarantee you that stuff.
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You know, it's like people in the, you know, film industry.
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When you create a movie, like a real movie,
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you spend, you know, $200 million to create even like an average movie.
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I mean, there's no guarantee it's going to make anything back.
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It can be told a lot.
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Flops happen all the time.
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It's probably very, very risky.
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So many examples of, yeah.
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So many examples of, you know, we hired all the right cast,
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all the right everything and then that movie flopped.
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One example I keep hearing about is the,
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the Lone Ranger movie that came out with Johnny Depp.
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Did you see that movie?
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I saw in the theater, it was kind of,
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it has a good action in the beginning,
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slow in the middle and good action at the very end.
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That's basically what the movie is.
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And so it did not that great.
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It was, it was basically considered a flop really,
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but they spent a ton of money on the movie.
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And one thing I keep hearing about with that particular movie
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was that Disney said, well, maybe nobody really knows about the movie.
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It's not the movie.
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It's, the movie is great according to them.
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It's a great piece of great movie.
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Maybe the problem is nobody knows about it.
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So let's dump more money into marketing.
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So they dumped more money into marketing and it's basically still flopped.
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So they didn't create the problem,
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which was making a good movie in the first place.
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They decided to dump more money into it,
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more money into it, more money production,
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more money and that kind of stuff,
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paid Johnny Depp a ton of money, that kind of stuff.
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And so, but I thought I was okay.
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I took the kids to see it, you know, and they're real little, of course,
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but you know, I mean, sometimes when you think about like your content,
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whether it's a YouTube channel or even Instagram page or something,
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you think like, oh, just dump more, more money into the content,
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more money into the cars, more money into the builds,
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more money into the cameras and the angles
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and all the, all the crazy special effects and crazy transitions.
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I don't know how well today, if that really makes a difference,
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as far as like people really like connecting to your content, you know, like,
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like when I see, when I was just watching some of those, like,
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I guess big time YouTubers have always car collection
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and they're talking about their different crazy cars
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and different things that I could never relate to.
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Like things that I will never do.
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I'll never drive Ferrari down the road or whatever.
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Like I'll never do that stuff.
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So it didn't feel very relatable to me.
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So the car content that I used to watch a lot on YouTube
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was stuff that I could relate to.
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Oh, they got a 370Z, I have a 370Z.
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Oh, they're doing that on the Z.
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I can do that on my Z, that kind of stuff.
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That's what was the channels that I like to watch
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and the channels that I like gravitated towards.
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Yeah, no, I, relatability is, is at the end of the day
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is I think the word that we, we have to do,
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we as, as any kind of creator that you strive for is like
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to make something that's relatable.
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And the, the tricky thing is like, you know,
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you really have to ask yourself relatable to who, you know,
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if you never really know really where your content lands,
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like, you know, you never really know who gravitates to,
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you know, maybe you'd like your example,
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maybe in your, you know, in that specific space,
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like obviously if, you know, somebody does content on a car
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that somebody has, like that group of folks
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that are in that realm are probably more likely
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to be the who in that situation.
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But, but relatability is what I'm really seeing
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is, is kind of the ticket to really start
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to really get engagement with your content.
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For me personally, like I, and I think we talked about this too,
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is, you know, I, I, I definitely have noticed that,
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you know, anything that gets people to, you know,
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ask a question, answers a question for them or, or again,
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just again, the relatability factor,
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like I've been through that experience before,
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something of that sort.
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I feel like is really the content that starts
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to really grab eyes and, and get people to really engage with.
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But it's, it's, it's really just, unfortunately,
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the biggest thing is just the time and effort
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that it takes to really start to, to, to find,
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like where, where do you relate to people in a way
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that you can then duplicate over and over again?
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I think if, you know, really for my, you know,
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just this couple of years of this journey,
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you know, doing content, like the two things
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that I think are like what, what I strive for with content is,
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is, you know, duplication and relatability.
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Like how do you find like the perfect intersection
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of those two things?
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And when you do find it, how do you, how do you hold on to that?
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While also keeping your eyes on the swivel to know,
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like, should I adapt in a certain way?
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Do I need to maybe slightly, slightly pivot
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in a different direction if things are changing?
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But you're always still searching for those two intersections
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of relatability and, and duplication.
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Yeah, I'd have to agree.
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And that's why I think that when you're trying to do a YouTube
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channel where you are constantly taking, you know,
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these very expensive cars out for repairs or maintenance
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or drives or whatever it is.
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And if you're trying to keep up with that every single week
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or whatever you do videos, it can get very expensive.
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Just the, just the payments alone and the insurance costs
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alone, not to mention any kind of video production stuff.
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I'm talking just the actual car itself costs money.
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And if you have multiple cars like this,
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and if you're taking them out on multiple things,
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that's why I saw a lot of car, car YouTubers
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kind of go into that, like a collective video,
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like review route, you know, like Doug is a good one.
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There's a few other ones out there that do that.
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They get press kits. I don't know how this happens,
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but they actually get a press kit where they actually get to go to,
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you know, a, I guess a press thing of whatever new cars
21:53
getting coming, coming out or whatever, by whatever company.
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And they get to do their whole review, their GoPros,
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their stuff. They get to do all the video stuff of that car
22:02
for the day, do their whole review, their whole video.
22:04
But I noticed that they don't release them until they're told
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they're allowed to release them.
22:08
There's a big, you know, the embargo concept is real.
22:12
I know that like when the new Bronco came out,
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we heard about the new Bronco coming out for years
22:17
and the day he actually got released by Ford,
22:19
all the YouTube videos dropped that same day.
22:22
I noticed all their viewers dropped all their videos
22:25
on them the same day.
22:26
So they went somewhere in secret and got to see them all
22:29
and do their little video about it and stuff.
22:31
And then the second that Ford says,
22:32
says it's okay to talk about it,
22:34
then they all dropped their videos at the same day.
22:37
So, you know, I mean, even that like takes money
22:40
to travel to wherever that event is being held at.
22:45
Doug's talked about that a lot.
22:46
Because yeah, that embargo deal is pretty real
22:50
and still pretty common with a lot of different reviews.
22:53
They, you know, will sort of do it differently now where,
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I mean, even if they don't film them all in the same location,
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it's still like if it's a car, you know, an upcoming car
23:03
that, you know, that company wants to, you know,
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kind of set a press date where people are allowed
23:08
to drop their videos, it doesn't really matter.
23:11
Usually they're still going to provide them the car at some point,
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but it doesn't really matter if all of those were filmed
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on the same day or in the same location.
23:19
But they do have strict, you know, requirements
23:23
that you can't talk about certain aspects of the car
23:27
or you can't release videos on the car
23:30
until that embargo date hits.
23:33
And, you know, that's a lot of legal around that.
23:36
So, you know, people were really tight lipped
23:39
when they, especially when it's a hot car on the market
23:42
about, you know, I can't say, I can say maybe
23:45
that I've had the experience of, you know, checking out this car
23:48
and like, you can maybe say little things and that,
23:50
but they're really, I think the real big thing
23:52
they're really hesitant on is like sharing opinions,
23:56
because sharing an opinion ahead of an embargo,
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I've, you know, I've heard of people getting
24:00
in pretty big legal trouble around that.
24:03
And that's usually when they really make themselves.
24:05
Not just cars, it could be like, you know,
24:08
Tech reviews, okay. Yeah.
24:10
Like the latest, whatever computer and stuff like that
24:13
and later whatever gadget and stuff like that.
24:15
So, I mean, I get it.
24:16
It's all the company probably uses to their advantage.
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They use these YouTubers to help get their information
24:26
Because you think about years and years and years ago,
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before there was even a YouTube really,
24:31
or even YouTube baby YouTube back in the day
24:33
that there was not a lot of like car stuff
24:36
on whatever particular car was coming out,
24:39
you might find like a commercial or promo spot
24:42
from the car company.
24:44
But that was pretty much it, really.
24:45
There wasn't any like deep dive YouTube,
24:48
you know, creator content stuff.
24:50
In fact, one of my videos that I shot back at the audio,
24:54
auto show back in, gosh, it was 2009.
24:56
It's on my YouTube channel.
24:57
One of the most popular videos I have.
24:59
It was like literally a one minute clip of the 370Z
25:03
when it first got announced.
25:04
It was at the auto show.
25:06
I don't turn table and they were spinning around
25:08
and the girl was talking about the car
25:10
with her microphone out, doing her thing.
25:12
I thought a one minute shot, shot on a crappy camera
25:14
way back in the day, of course.
25:16
And I was kind of thinking because back then
25:18
I put that video up, you know, and it's doing fairly well.
25:21
But it's not very good.
25:23
It's only a one minute clip, but not in detail, really.
25:26
It's not much too, but it's probably back then,
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it's all that we really had.
25:31
Because I don't think there was much YouTubers
25:33
doing car related content back then.
25:36
I don't think there was much of that at the time.
25:38
And like there is today or whatever.
25:40
But I do think that is a really easy way
25:42
to get content out there.
25:44
If you can figure out a way to get a press pass
25:47
to go to these events and do your filming,
25:50
do your thing, do your stuff.
25:52
And then, or even I've seen a lot of other YouTubers
25:55
do the same thing where they get in this rhythm
25:57
where they have a relationship with a certain dealership
26:01
and they're allowed to take out whatever car they have
26:05
You seen those two?
26:06
A lot of guys do that.
26:08
Rady, Rady's Rides does that.
26:10
He does a lot of reviews on a lot of his stuff.
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In fact, I got to get a guy on the show
26:14
speaking of which I can reach out to that dude.
26:16
But I've seen that happens where it's very repetitive.
26:21
So when I see those kind of videos like that,
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at least my perspective anyways,
26:24
when I see a channel like his
26:26
or any of those channels like that,
26:27
is that if there's only,
26:28
if there's a car that I'm actually interested in,
26:31
I'll watch maybe that video.
26:33
But if it's another car I don't care about,
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Do you do the same thing
26:37
when you see videos like that?
26:41
Doug's big on that.
26:43
Rady's Rides, usually with those two.
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I love Doug D'Amio's content,
26:51
so I do tend to watch some cars
26:53
that might not necessarily have been interested in.
26:55
I'll watch it just because I know
26:57
I'm going to learn something interesting
26:58
or quirky about it.
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But more of like the,
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yeah, like the, you know,
27:02
Rady's Rides, like some of those
27:04
are more like, yeah, I'm just curious.
27:06
I might be curious about that particular car,
27:08
but I'm not like kind of binging that content
27:12
because it's, you know,
27:13
it's just facts and things that I'm not like,
27:15
you know, it's just not really what I'm looking for.
27:18
I'm not sure if you're familiar with him,
27:20
Forest Auto Reviews.
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He does, he basically kind of mastered like,
27:25
basically doing car reviews, but in short form.
27:28
He, he's like super good.
27:30
He's got a, he had a camera guy from the start.
27:33
Him and this guy, like you would tag team.
27:35
Like he was one of like the first like real rapid fire.
27:38
Like, you know, here are the facts about this car.
27:40
Like here, here's this feature.
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Here's that feature.
27:44
Here's this, a quick little like acceleration video.
27:47
Like here are the power figures.
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And he'd do that all in like about a minute or so clip.
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And he really mastered that to the point
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where like he's, he's one of the top auto reviewers,
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but he purely does it in short form.
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Are you sure he doesn't take long form and cut it down?
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No, I mean, because he's,
28:05
he has some long form videos on his channel
28:08
and he actually started to, you know,
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three, two, three years ago.
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He actually started, you know,
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he did a couple of like longer form views and videos.
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And they, you know, at the time,
28:17
they didn't perform very well.
28:19
They've performed well now
28:20
because his shorts were so popular.
28:22
But you can tell that like when you go to his like video history,
28:27
he, he still, you know, makes new shorts now,
28:30
but the last long form video he made was like two years ago.
28:35
So he, he fully committed to this sort of short form rapid fire auto review style.
28:43
And it's, it's worked for him.
28:44
But you know what's interesting when you say that,
28:46
I just thought about this is that
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you take say a one minute video,
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like you're saying a rapid fire review video
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and shot very well.
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It's one minute long.
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It's in that short form, you know, vertical, you know, format.
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I do the same thing is that you take that same video
29:03
and it's not exclusive to Tik Tok YouTube.
29:06
It can be on all the places.
29:08
They all can take it because it's,
29:10
it's set up designed for social media.
29:12
It's designed for that format
29:14
and it sits under like the one minute mark
29:16
or if it's around one minute or so,
29:18
most platforms take it.
29:20
Some platforms go longer or shorter.
29:22
It just depends what platform it is.
29:23
But I think that if you can keep your videos
29:27
in a like universal package
29:29
that can be used across multiple platforms,
29:33
you can grow, I think easier.
29:35
You can have audiences all over the place
29:37
versus say one place YouTube is like YouTube long form.
29:41
YouTube long form video
29:43
is only ever going to work on YouTube.
29:46
It's not going to work on it.
29:48
I mean, you could put,
29:48
I've seen some people take,
29:51
tell it's like a long form video
29:53
that was supposed to be for YouTube.
29:55
somehow they put it on like X
29:56
or they'll put it on Instagram somehow.
29:59
And they'll do that.
30:00
I've seen them do that
30:00
because you can tell it's not cropped or anything.
30:02
It's the standard like 16 by nine format or whatever.
30:06
And so you say, okay, well I see that.
30:08
I see them do that.
30:09
And I guess that works too.
30:11
But maybe you have to have so many like viewers
30:13
or how subscribers or whatever
30:16
to even get to the level.
30:18
to get to make that,
30:20
that type of content work on something
30:22
that's more tailored towards the shorter form nine by 16.
30:27
Right, right, right.
30:28
So I think that if,
30:29
if you were a content creator listening right now
30:31
and you're thinking about doing like short form video,
30:34
I would try to aim for somewhere around the one minute mark
30:37
just so you can have access to put that same content
30:40
on all the different platforms.
30:42
And it isn't a trick and tip I've heard is that
30:45
if you can somehow keep any of the other logos off the video,
30:51
I know like TikTok, for example,
30:52
the very end they had that TikTok logo
30:54
at the end of their videos.
30:59
does TikTok put like a logo on top of their video
31:03
I'm not sure if they do.
31:06
Instagram does as well,
31:08
I'm guilty of this because I,
31:09
I pull a lot of my like,
31:11
if I'm doing like for like B roll,
31:14
like, you know, or things like that,
31:16
I'll just pull it off Instagram
31:17
because certain videos allow you to actually download them.
31:20
I've heard that the algorithm sees that
31:23
and it kind of pushes it deeper in the file.
31:28
I'm saying if you pulled the TikTok video
31:30
and put it from TikTok directly on Instagram,
31:33
Instagram is not going to favor that video
31:36
over our different video
31:37
because they see somebody else's logo on there,
31:39
especially a competitor's logo in there.
31:41
Can you imagine that you see a competitor's logo on something?
31:44
it's like if you were to like,
31:45
walk into the Coke store drinking a Pepsi,
31:48
get out of here with that, you know?
31:50
So they're not going to be too happy about that.
31:52
so if you're going to do that,
31:54
try to make a clean copy
31:55
that you can put it all in different places
31:58
I mean, it's the same copy,
31:59
it's the same version,
32:01
just move it to different places.
32:03
You can go to different platforms.
32:04
But I know some people say,
32:06
oh, I just like to upload it on here
32:08
and like in TikTok or whatever,
32:10
and then I can share it out that way
32:14
but the algorithm does not like you to do that
32:17
because they want to make sure that
32:18
whatever you post on their platform
32:22
They don't want you cheating
32:23
with other platforms.
32:25
They don't want you doing that.
32:27
you are doing that,
32:28
they frown upon that.
32:29
That's one thing I've heard.
32:30
They've got this assumption
32:32
and that they're the only ones.
32:36
These other platforms don't exist in our mind.
32:39
And that's kind of why I think YouTube
32:41
started doing shorts in the first place.
32:43
That's why we're also doing that kind of content.
32:46
And they can kind of master and tailor the algorithm quicker,
32:49
probably that way too.
32:50
I'm sure the algorithm for these short form platforms
32:52
is way different than like long form algorithm stuff
32:56
because you don't know,
32:57
you're almost playing like,
32:58
like roulette or whatever,
32:59
when you flip them through your phone
33:01
on like, on reels or shorts or whatever it is,
33:04
you have no idea what's coming up next.
33:10
when I'm going on YouTube as a consumer of YouTube,
33:14
I say like, you know, those,
33:17
because I'm usually on my phone,
33:19
every once in a while,
33:20
if I'm using my computer for something,
33:23
but for the most part on my phone,
33:26
the way the initial page is when you open it
33:30
is usually you're recommended like four random shorts
33:34
or depending on who you subscribe to,
33:36
if you're subscribed to like a bigger channel,
33:38
like they might be part of that,
33:39
like for four short,
33:42
kind of grouping that they put up top,
33:44
but usually there's like a couple of long form videos,
33:46
but then like right in the middle of that screen,
33:49
you'll have like four shorts recommended.
33:52
And usually depending on whatever short you,
33:55
you click on initially,
33:57
if you're going down that rabbit trail,
33:59
is going to lead you down like a different path
34:02
of what's kind of recommended after that.
34:04
The algorithm kind of kicks into place
34:06
and starts doing a spin.
34:08
And I tend to not necessarily scroll
34:10
like to an additional real or additional,
34:14
short that's this kind of selected
34:17
after the one that I selected first.
34:20
I'm clicking on that one specifically
34:22
because I was interested in that.
34:24
And then I'm going back to like my main page
34:26
because I was looking for something specific.
34:29
But, but yeah, to your point,
34:32
some folks are just there in the loop.
34:33
And so once they start,
34:36
once they start watching it,
34:38
they're going to whatever's next,
34:39
whatever's next, whatever's next.
34:41
And again, yeah, the algorithm is kind of evolved
34:45
to that point to like say,
34:46
well, you were interested in this right now.
34:48
So let's just keep you down that rabbit trail.
34:53
Let's recommend some things around that.
34:55
But just to backtrack,
34:57
I mean, I think your advice is really solid.
34:59
Like I'm listening to this too,
35:01
as obviously somebody that's actively making content
35:05
is that I really do think that,
35:07
finding a way to have,
35:09
at least on the short form side,
35:10
to have something that's duplicatable
35:13
over multiple platforms.
35:16
you're not maybe shooting yourself in the foot
35:19
by having your remnants of those other platforms
35:23
on the new platform that you're uploading to,
35:25
but having content that can really be cross-platform,
35:29
because it makes sense.
35:30
All of those platforms have sort of this short mentality.
35:34
So why not have something
35:36
that works on all those other platforms?
35:39
The long form sector of it,
35:42
like I said, really only tailors to YouTube.
35:44
And so if people still have that ambition to do that,
35:49
let the algorithms from all of these other platforms
35:53
start to feed into your long form content
35:56
and drive traffic to it.
35:59
And then you start to maybe experience growth on both sides.
36:04
By, I tend to, when I post a short,
36:06
it gets a lot more views
36:08
in a lot shorter amount of time on the short side,
36:11
even specifically on YouTube,
36:13
than they do on the long form side.
36:15
And my mind always goes to let the short form drive
36:20
possibly newer traffic to the overall channel
36:23
to then hopefully if your content really gravitates
36:26
with them and is sticky enough
36:28
to then get them to click on the long form content.
36:31
Now, just if you can multiply that
36:33
and have that over multiple different platforms,
36:37
have all of that now working towards your favor
36:40
on the long form side of YouTube,
36:42
I think you really kind of add on to your odds
36:45
of creating some type of traction and growth in that realm.
36:50
I think you're pretty spot on with that mentality for sure.
36:53
You know, one thing that like with podcasting,
36:57
for example, here, like I call it podcasting classic,
37:01
which is my definition of it,
37:02
which is basically like a typical audio podcast,
37:05
like the original podcasting, you know,
37:08
how most people think of a podcast,
37:10
think of like an audio podcast.
37:12
Now, there's many different places
37:14
to listen to this podcast.
37:15
You can listen to on Spotify, Apple, iHeart,
37:17
Amazon, so on and so forth,
37:20
There's a bunch of places to listen to this thing at.
37:23
And you should do that, by the way,
37:24
if you have to listen to it.
37:25
And the thing is, is that if,
37:27
if whatever reason we say something that
37:30
Apple does not like for whatever,
37:31
or you can't say whatever, you know, or something,
37:34
and Apple says your show is kicked off, right?
37:37
Well, it can still be played on Spotify, Amazon,
37:40
go down the line of whatever places you want to listen to it.
37:43
You can still listen there.
37:44
Versus if you're on YouTube and you get those three strikes,
37:48
Like you are done off YouTube.
37:50
Go down to the YouTube down the street?
37:52
Well, what is that place?
37:54
They own the monopoly.
37:55
I mean, is it Vine?
37:57
I'm thinking of what's the other video place
37:59
that does like similar to YouTube?
38:00
There's another place out there.
38:03
There is another one.
38:04
There is another one.
38:06
It was like Vimeo or something like that.
38:08
Maybe that's what it is.
38:10
But I thought there was another one out there,
38:12
very similar to YouTube, but not as popular.
38:15
I mean, I mean, YouTube is a mega giant, you know.
38:18
And so, yes, there are other places you can go to.
38:20
And I guess the same thing with podcasting too,
38:22
like Apple's like the big guy.
38:24
And if Apple kicks you out or whatever,
38:26
you know, Spotify or whatever else is out there,
38:28
you can still listen.
38:29
If possible, you're not completely dead in the water.
38:32
But I just think that like with the YouTube channel
38:35
is that if something goes wrong,
38:37
you do get the platforms on YouTube.
38:39
It's very, very hard to like get that back.
38:41
I guess it goes with any social media.
38:44
The thing about social media, even with YouTube,
38:46
is that like really you are at their mercy
38:49
of their algorithm.
38:50
And you're at their mercy of like playing nice.
38:52
You're at their mercy of that.
38:53
Something doesn't go wrong.
38:54
Where they kick you out.
38:55
They're restriction terms.
38:58
You could do something.
39:00
Even it's an accident.
39:01
You can do something that you were intending to do.
39:05
And if they kick you out, you're screwed, you know.
39:09
That's why I think it's important to have your content
39:11
spread across as many places possible.
39:14
Like if Instagram kicks you out,
39:17
say you got TikTok.
39:17
If TikTok kicks you out,
39:18
say you got YouTube shorts or whatever.
39:20
And go down the line, you know,
39:22
of different places.
39:24
And I think no matter where you put your content,
39:26
I think that the core thing
39:27
is that your brand and your content
39:30
should really like be like the main thing, you know.
39:33
And I think being like a car, a YouTuber,
39:37
I said, unless you have like repeatable content
39:41
that you can do over and over again,
39:42
that's not just repeatable.
39:43
Like it's good too.
39:45
It has to be good, of course.
39:46
You can't put out crap, boring stuff.
39:48
You don't matter how much you repeat,
39:50
you know, crap is good.
39:54
Right, right, right.
39:55
So I think there's that too, of course.
39:57
You know, there's a format to all this stuff.
39:59
But I think the thing about audio podcast,
40:02
I shared this with you, but is that
40:04
there's no typical algorithm in an audio podcast
40:08
versus a YouTube channel or Instagram
40:10
or TikTok or those kind of things.
40:12
Algorithms all feed that stuff.
40:14
Algorithms, you know, push your content out
40:16
to everybody, you know, to see it.
40:18
With an audio podcast,
40:20
there is no typical algorithm.
40:22
So we have to use other tools and other means
40:25
like social media and other algorithms,
40:27
other places to help like get it out there
40:29
to more people or marketing it.
40:32
I said this to somebody recently,
40:33
I was saying how like, you know,
40:36
most popular podcasts
40:39
or most popular shows I see out there
40:40
are really good at marketing.
40:42
If you want to have a really, really popular show,
40:44
really a successful show, really,
40:46
you have to get really good at marketing,
40:48
really good at podcast marketing,
40:49
really good at marketing.
40:51
If you're not good at marketing,
40:52
then your show is probably just going to be
40:54
just a plain Jane, you know,
40:57
not get a lot of listens or views
40:59
and sit there or whatever.
41:00
And I think a lot of people, like YouTubers,
41:03
they will rely on the algorithm
41:04
to do all the work for them.
41:06
But I think you still have to like
41:07
do some marketing on your own too.
41:09
You can't 100% rely on the algorithm
41:12
to take it off and do its thing
41:14
because it may not be tuned for your content.
41:17
It might not be, I don't know.
41:19
I mean, I think that like when you have a show
41:21
that like an episode does well,
41:23
sometimes the algorithm does help push it out more.
41:27
But the marketing is important.
41:29
Yeah, and I feel like, you know,
41:34
marketing is, there's a lot to it,
41:36
you know, with YouTube and social media in general,
41:39
like, you know, your packaging of the video,
41:43
the title, the thumbnail,
41:45
that's part of marketing your video.
41:48
Your title and thumbnail are essentially really the gating item
41:52
for anybody even given like your content a shot,
41:55
no matter how good or not good it is.
41:59
Well, of course, it has to be sticky too.
42:00
It has to build like, even if you get them in the door,
42:03
they have to like look around and say,
42:04
Oh, what a shop here, you know,
42:06
like having the coolest looking like neon sign
42:09
and like the coolest doorfront is great.
42:12
But getting them inside the shop
42:13
and the shop's like empty shelves
42:14
and like one guy in the back picking his nose,
42:16
you're like, okay, well, this is not for me.
42:19
I will say though, the interesting thing about that though
42:21
is kind of back to like an earlier point is
42:24
really once you have command of your audience,
42:27
like, you know, some people distance themselves
42:32
a little bit more from like a little bit more
42:34
of a rapid fire type, like, you know,
42:37
kind of hook based, I guess, you know,
42:41
approach to like intros and things in videos.
42:44
Like I've noticed that some people actually, you know,
42:47
they want things to have, you know,
42:49
go back to more of like the, you know,
42:52
just the just flow of content,
42:54
like, you know, conversational type content
42:56
and things like that.
42:57
And it all, I think that part of it
42:59
really depends on your audience.
43:01
Like, you know, your, you know,
43:03
your video can be sticky to say like an audience
43:06
that really enjoys just feeling like
43:08
they're having a conversation with the person
43:10
that's creating a video and different things like that
43:13
versus like on the other side of the things,
43:15
like your content can be sticky to like, you know,
43:18
the younger generation, I'll just say like me,
43:20
that like enjoys like maybe a little bit of the flashier,
43:22
like, you know, jump cuts and, you know,
43:25
some editing tricks and things like that.
43:30
And I feel like I'm in a balanced area
43:33
where like, you know, I got to at least
43:35
kind of know what's going on.
43:36
Like I feel like there's a lot of content now
43:39
where it's just like jump cut after jump cut
43:41
and you just don't really know what's going on.
43:43
That's usually works best to like the short form of stuff
43:45
because you have like that one minute place to put in like,
43:48
you got to add 30 minutes down to one minute.
43:50
I can see jump cut city, you know?
43:52
And I can see it happen.
43:52
Yeah, jump cut city.
43:53
But it does get annoying after a while.
43:55
When we put you on a video where you get to jarring
43:57
where you're watching them, it's like a 30 second clip
44:00
and it's like jump cut after jump cut after jump cut
44:03
and you're like, what, what, what, what?
44:05
You know, it doesn't feel natural.
44:06
Your brain kind of like does is like, what?
44:08
You know, I mean, I get it.
44:10
I get it because you're,
44:11
obviously edited, heavily edited,
44:14
and you're trying to make a point across.
44:15
You got to, you got to edit down like literally 30 minutes
44:20
You got to do what you got to do for your,
44:22
for your time allowed in space.
44:25
And, you know, again, and again, your audience,
44:27
like I said, you know, unfortunately,
44:29
you know, I don't want to say unfortunately,
44:30
but like, you know, there's,
44:33
everybody has, and this is one thing
44:35
that I kind of got from that perspective of,
44:37
you know, using that course that kind of initially
44:39
got me into wanting to start up my YouTube channel was,
44:42
you know, everybody, you know,
44:44
all the content out there has an audience.
44:46
It's like, you, you might have to do the work
44:48
to really, you know, find out what,
44:51
who that audience is and who really gravitates
44:53
to your style of content creation,
44:55
but everybody has an audience.
44:57
Like we can't, we can't think that like,
44:59
you know, we're the only ones in the world that,
45:02
that our type of creation style is going to resonate with,
45:06
but it just takes time to flesh it out.
45:08
Like we're not going to be, you know,
45:09
we're not going to be the best at it,
45:10
you know, right out of the gate.
45:12
You know, we got to take time to do it.
45:14
And, you know, I think one thing that I just,
45:17
I keep in mind that I would say I would leave folks with,
45:20
you know, at all in terms of just like encouragement
45:22
in this world of, you know, again, it's tough.
45:25
Like, you know, it's really tough to like,
45:28
stand out above the crowd and create something
45:31
amongst all of what's already out there.
45:34
You know, there's a lot of saturation
45:36
in the car content realm and all of that.
45:38
But, you know, I think, you know,
45:40
really we're getting into a mentality where, you know,
45:43
if you got a passion for doing something,
45:45
you got to just be willing to kind of stick with it long enough
45:48
and continue to take yourself back to,
45:52
I'm doing this because like this is something
45:54
that I truly enjoy doing.
45:56
Like, you know, because if we're trying to make something
45:59
work that we really just don't enjoy doing
46:00
because we think like it's going to create
46:02
like the monetary result we want.
46:05
Like even if we do create the monetary result,
46:07
like it's going to be hollow at the end of the day anyway.
46:10
It's like we got to tell ourselves,
46:13
like if this is something we feel like we, you know,
46:16
really are passionate about and enjoy doing,
46:19
like it's worth some of this, like, you know,
46:22
some of the downside of needing to find your audience
46:25
and needing to understand how to get your content out there
46:28
and market your content and all of the hard stuff
46:30
that you got to go through.
46:32
Because, you know, there's an audience for people out there.
46:36
They just, you know, we just got to kind of fight to get to it.
46:39
And that's what I tell myself all the time,
46:41
even when I'm going through those slumps of,
46:43
I don't know what to make a video about now.
46:45
Like, it's like, I have no idea.
46:47
I think having, like you have your cool car,
46:49
you can always make videos about your car.
46:50
You always can like figure out things to work around your car.
46:53
Like your car can be the, I guess, the glue to your channel,
46:58
you know, the end car.
47:00
You can always use that.
47:01
That's one thing I noticed with some of these other guys.
47:02
They had like a Z or something like that.
47:04
That became like their glue for their channel.
47:07
It was the car they had.
47:09
They would do right along, was talking about the car,
47:12
working on the car, adding a modification to the car,
47:15
That kind of, I kind of felt like some relatability
47:18
because they're like, oh, I have the same car.
47:20
Oh, I could probably do that to my car or whatever,
47:23
And so, so I think that as a car content creator,
47:27
I think you have to find a way to create content
47:31
easily that works best for you, that is relatable to an audience
47:36
that doesn't burn you out, of course,
47:38
because if you're burnt down and you're doing your thing,
47:40
and then it's game over, man.
47:42
You know what you could do, but,
47:44
but yeah, I think that it's, it's not easy
47:47
being a YouTuber in the car space
47:48
with so much competition out there,
47:50
even like the, like the review ride type shows.
47:53
There's a bunch of those out there.
47:55
We've mentioned a few already, but I'm sure,
47:58
like if I'm reviewing say the next whatever car
48:02
and you're reviewing that same car
48:03
and so on down the streets reviewing the same car
48:06
and then most of, so the actual car is literally
48:09
So that is the core is the same car.
48:11
The only thing different would be how I talk about the car
48:15
or how you talk about the car or the next guy
48:17
talks about the car, which kind of goes back
48:18
to like your own brand and your own personality.
48:22
So if you can figure out a way to make your brand
48:24
and your personality stand apart
48:27
from everybody else's, then I think,
48:29
I think it's what you have to do these days.
48:31
There's just so much competition.
48:32
There's just so many people out there.
48:35
I mean, it's a way to personalize it
48:37
because it's, we're just, I don't think we're,
48:40
I'd say this now, but you never really know,
48:42
but I don't think we're in a realm
48:43
where we can really just carve out
48:45
this new grandiose thing that just hasn't been done yet.
48:48
Like it's, I don't think we're in a realm
48:50
where we can really do that, but.
48:51
Unless you've gotten millions of dollars
48:53
to like think big and like,
48:55
like on this next episode of cool cars with Chris,
48:58
I'm going to be driving a Lamborghini
49:01
and courage is driving the Lydice Ferrari
49:02
and we're going to go head to head
49:04
and do a demolition derby.
49:05
Find out next on tomorrow's episode.
49:07
Yes. Yeah. I was like, I was like,
49:10
all of this has been done.
49:11
And then you do demolition derby and I was like,
49:12
okay, that's different.
49:15
We're playing who's funding this now.
49:17
Right. Right. We're going to jump over each other
49:20
blindfolded while our cars are on fire.
49:22
It's like, literally what Mr. Beast has to do,
49:25
like he has to up, up his game so much to even like get, like,
49:31
I mean, now it's become like another episode
49:34
of like a game show every time it does a thing now.
49:37
I think there's a level you get to,
49:39
especially at a Mr. Beast level where, I mean,
49:42
I don't want to say that you could just like do nothing
49:44
and still, you know, and still get views.
49:48
But you, but you've created a brand
49:51
and you created a following and you posting and putting
49:55
at least enough effort to create something that
49:58
that's true to the content that people enjoy from you will,
50:02
I mean, yes, it might be you, if you look metrics wise,
50:05
like, yeah, you might have some drop offs here and there,
50:07
but I mean, you would really have to be,
50:10
you do something completely wrong to just not,
50:13
you know, generate the level of views that his videos
50:16
generate just in an instant when he posts,
50:19
because, you know, you just have that followership,
50:21
you have that audience that is just into what it is that you do
50:25
and you're in the way you think and the way that you create content.
50:28
But that dude is like living and breathing YouTube 217.
50:32
Like that guy, that's all he, he has an entire team
50:36
and a team on that team that all they dedicate towards
50:38
is thumbnails and the thumbnail doesn't do well
50:41
after like so many views or so many hours or whatever.
50:44
They swap it out for another one.
50:45
Well, you know, you too, you know,
50:46
that's something you can do as like, as a, well, you know that
50:50
because you've, you've created a really like played around
50:53
with that feature that much.
50:54
Like I'm so like out of the loop when it comes to YouTube stuff,
50:58
like, like I know how to upload and like how to put the title
51:01
together in the thumbnail,
51:02
but that's about where my YouTube expertise goes.
51:05
You got the timestamps down really well too,
51:07
which is something that on this show was because
51:10
when I put this timestamps into the show notes on the podcast,
51:14
they transfer over and I figured that was pretty,
51:18
I figured little tip here, guys,
51:20
is that I've gone up a timestamps in your videos.
51:22
All you have to do is put them in the description part
51:25
of your YouTube video.
51:27
And the way you do that,
51:28
it's got to be formatted in like the,
51:29
the four digit timestamps will be like
51:32
00 colon 00 will be the start and like,
51:35
you know, 00 one minute, whatever seconds, that kind of thing.
51:39
So if you do it in that style,
51:41
YouTube figures that out and puts there and that the video,
51:44
but it has to be into the show notes.
51:46
So let's just another way to do it.
51:47
I don't know about,
51:48
but that's the way that I figured how to do it.
51:50
And that's what works.
51:52
But, but yeah, YouTube is a beat.
51:54
Is it another piece?
51:55
I don't understand.
51:56
It's like, it's always changing.
52:00
one thing I was going to add on,
52:01
on Mr. Beast, though, that YouTube aside,
52:06
all of, like, all of, you know, the challenges aside,
52:09
one of the coolest things that I think about,
52:11
Mr. Beast is, is the video that like,
52:14
has now gotten like over like a hundred million views now.
52:18
But when he made it, didn't was a video to himself
52:22
five or 10 years in the future.
52:23
I don't know if you've ever seen that on YouTube,
52:26
but obviously now, since his, like, you know,
52:28
his persona, his brand, his channel has grown to what it is.
52:31
Now that video started obviously got recommended more
52:34
and like everybody's seen it now.
52:36
But he basically just, you know,
52:38
it was just him sitting in his room,
52:40
completely unedited, just him sitting talking to himself
52:44
saying like, you know, man, like, you know,
52:45
I'm going in on this YouTube thing.
52:48
I'm, you know, five years down the road,
52:50
like, you know, it'd be great to have, like,
52:52
a hundred thousand subscribers, maybe a million,
52:54
like, you know, different things like that.
52:55
You know, he's just talking through, like,
52:57
these random ideas on this video.
52:59
And then to kind of know where he's at now,
53:02
everything aside, algorithm, all of that.
53:05
Like, you know, just the fact that, like, he,
53:07
you know, he, he had a dream for something.
53:10
Like I said, dude, the guy lives and breathes YouTube 24 seven.
53:14
He put in, he put in the effort.
53:16
He, you know, he, he, he again, yeah, he eats at eight slept,
53:21
breathed YouTube and, and made it work.
53:24
But, you know, at the time where he was making that decision,
53:28
he was just some little kid that I don't even think he was,
53:31
he had graduated high school at that point,
53:34
was just creating videos in his room.
53:36
And, you know, I just think that it's cool
53:38
that that video came out where you just saw like that genuine,
53:42
like, you know, I would love to be here at this point
53:45
and like I'm committed to doing it
53:47
and then seeing it actually come, come to fruition is just,
53:51
it's a cool thing to watch for sure.
53:53
But there's also a downside when you get to the level
53:56
of any kind of success, especially even, even on YouTube,
53:59
really, when you get to that, that I would,
54:01
I would say a successful level on YouTube would probably be
54:05
into the hundreds of thousands of subscribers,
54:07
maybe even millions of subscribers.
54:09
Maybe get to that level, like a million subscriber level.
54:13
Things, it's like being a celebrity, you know,
54:15
and I think, I don't know, like, when you get to level of fame,
54:18
it's not all, you know, glamorous.
54:21
It's not all like, sunshine and rainbows.
54:24
Oh, 100%. I know a lot of, I mean,
54:27
there's, there's channels that I watched though,
54:28
where I'm like, I'll see that, I'll like get one video
54:32
recommended to me and, and I'll watch it
54:34
and not even realize kind of how big that
54:37
particular like channel is.
54:39
And I'll go in and see that they have like 200,
54:41
300,000 subscribers and like,
54:43
I literally have never heard of this channel before.
54:46
And the type of content that they make is not like
54:49
something where like, you know,
54:50
everybody walking down the street is going to know,
54:53
like there's, there's still a level, I think,
54:56
of YouTube and, you know, particular or anything out there
54:59
where you can still have like a level of
55:01
anim, animinity or whatever that word is.
55:05
And I think one good way to do it is to have a,
55:07
have a total faceless, like audio show.
55:09
That's one way to do it.
55:10
Cause normally you could see you, you know.
55:13
But I, I mean, they even, even people that do, you know,
55:15
but just kind of, you know, I mean,
55:17
people that see, they see their face on YouTube, like,
55:20
or see their face on social media, like they,
55:23
there's a level of that where, you know,
55:25
yes, when you're getting, you know,
55:27
maybe when you get to like a million or so, like,
55:29
you know, you're, you're in that realm.
55:31
And again, if you're in a very popular, you know,
55:34
niche, then yeah, like it's probably inevitable that people
55:37
are going to just start to like recognize you.
55:38
But I still think there's, and I know like some examples
55:42
of some folks where like, I mean, they, they,
55:45
people don't know them.
55:47
They only know them, like if they are in that realm,
55:50
which, you know, is kind of a small niche in and of itself,
55:53
you, it really just depends, you know, at the end of the day.
55:56
It's, I definitely agree with you that like, you know,
55:59
most of the people that are in that limelight right now
56:03
don't really want to be there.
56:05
They're like, you know, introverted.
56:08
And those are trying right now to get there,
56:09
really want to be there. You know, they really,
56:11
oh, I wish I'd be famous. I knew this podcaster,
56:14
YouTuber, what do you want to call the guy?
56:16
Years ago, he would tell me that he really wanted to be famous.
56:19
He's supposed to make him want to be,
56:20
he wanted to fame, want to be famous.
56:22
Like, like why? Why would you want that?
56:24
Like, why would you want that?
56:25
I think, I think his thinking process is that if I am famous,
56:28
then quote unquote, I am rich and I have nice things.
56:31
I think he's kind of comparing the two together.
56:34
Well, you can still have nice things.
56:35
You still be rich and not to be famous.
56:37
There's plenty of rich people
56:38
who are not famous that are out there right now.
56:40
And so, and being fame, you have to accept the good with the bad.
56:45
And you know what I know, YouTube is notorious for like bad comments.
56:50
It's the hate and like, I mean, you said how like,
56:53
people that leave negative comments have like,
56:56
literally no followers.
56:57
It's, it's always the people with zero,
56:59
zero subs, no content that they've ever posted.
57:02
So I wonder if those like bots, if those are fake things,
57:05
if they're not real people or how it works, you know,
57:07
cause I got one recently and I quickly got rid of it.
57:09
But I was kind of wondering about that.
57:12
It was somebody who had no content of any kind,
57:14
no nothing of any kind.
57:16
And I'm like, who is this clown?
57:17
Like, what, you know, they just go on there
57:19
and just, just to bash everybody, the typical trolls.
57:22
And you get a lot of that stuff.
57:23
The bigger you get, the more of those you get.
57:25
I think a hundred percent.
57:26
Yeah. I seriously have yet to have that.
57:28
Like, and I purposely, like if I, and it doesn't,
57:31
it hasn't really happened that much with me at least,
57:34
but, but I'll purposely kind of go and like, you know,
57:37
just, just click the profile and just check to see.
57:39
I've, I've yet to be proven wrong that like, you know,
57:43
it's even on Instagram, like,
57:44
cause Instagram, it happens a lot more to me at least
57:47
than with YouTube, you know, where, you know,
57:49
it's just somebody like rag, and especially like with the,
57:52
with the Hyundai, like, you know, they, you know,
57:54
there's people that got a lot of negative conception
57:56
about Hyundai and everything.
57:57
And so, you know, you'll see a lot of that on Instagram,
58:00
go to the profile, you know, three posts, four posts,
58:04
you know, two followers or three followers or something,
58:08
you know, and it just, it's just the trolls.
58:12
Don't feed the trolls.
58:13
One thing though, I just happened just recently on a video
58:18
that I just uploaded.
58:19
It was a short, the one that I was talking to you about
58:21
that I did on the company vector automotive
58:24
that actually has done like surprisingly well,
58:26
like in terms of engagement and everything,
58:28
like out of an abnormally out of like some of the content
58:31
that I've done in that same realm.
58:34
So just to expose myself on this is I,
58:39
I guess the way that I pronounce the, like,
58:42
the Lamborghini Diablo Diablo.
58:46
So I say, yeah, I say Diablo and I've like always said that.
58:50
And when I posted that video and I talked about it,
58:53
I had like five to six people, totally different comment threads
58:57
comment on the fact that I say it that way.
59:00
But I'd never really clued into it until I saw that.
59:03
And I was like, yeah, that is kind of weird
59:06
because really like it should, you should like Diablo.
59:10
Like that's probably how like a lot of people say it.
59:12
But like nope, they weren't rude about it.
59:15
Like they were, they just kind of laughed.
59:17
Like they had a little laugh emoji or whatever.
59:19
But I like comment on each one and I was like,
59:21
man, like to be totally honest, I never thought about it that way.
59:25
Like I've never really kind of heard the way that I say it
59:28
in any other way just because it's just me saying it.
59:31
And that was the one time where like, yes,
59:33
it could be considered a negative comment,
59:35
but I like took that as genuine criticism
59:37
to like kind of think about like, you know,
59:40
how I say a certain word or something like that.
59:43
You know, it's funny thing you say that.
59:44
I think that if they're going on there to really criticize
59:49
the way you said Diop, Diop.
59:52
They have me all screwed up now Diablo.
59:55
Then they have the perfect life.
59:58
They've got it good because that's the biggest problem
00:01
they're worried about right now.
00:02
Their life is good and chances are it's not.
00:04
And we all know it's not, you know?
00:06
So I think that, you know, man, people are going to hate,
00:11
people are going to go on, people are going to retrolls,
00:13
people are going to say negative things
00:14
and people are going to be like,
00:15
especially the bigger you get an episode,
00:17
bigger you get your channel or whatever it is,
00:20
the bigger it gets, the bigger it grows, the more hate you get.
00:24
And you get love too, but you get hate too.
00:26
And it seems like the hate sticks out more than the love does.
00:32
You know, you can get like a bunch of positive comments
00:34
on something, but you get like one negative nasty comment.
00:37
That's all you think about.
00:39
You're like, oh crap, maybe my whole show is like horrible
00:41
or maybe my video is trash.
00:43
And that's just our human nature, unfortunately.
00:48
It's like, for some reason, like we gravitate more
00:51
to the negative than we do the positive.
00:54
And going back to the car YouTubers having to deal
00:59
all that kind of stuff.
01:00
I mean, that they keep doing it.
01:02
I think that they have a,
01:05
because they're getting paid to do it, of course,
01:06
if their YouTube channel is making money
01:08
and they're making money off the stuff,
01:09
they get to do their thing.
01:10
It becomes their regular like full-time job.
01:12
I know a lot of the guys that you mentioned,
01:15
I've known in stuff that do the YouTube full-time,
01:18
that's their full-time job.
01:19
That's not like a special little fun hobby to them.
01:22
It's literally a paycheck.
01:23
It'd be like, you know, you go into your job
01:26
and someone, you know, telling you
01:29
you're doing your job incorrectly or it's horrible.
01:31
And the person hasn't even done your job before.
01:33
Like how'd that feel?
01:35
That wouldn't feel cool, you know?
01:37
So, but YouTube is changing, I think.
01:40
And people on YouTube are changing their directive
01:43
when it comes to creating car content.
01:45
And I think personally for me,
01:47
I thought of this yesterday or today,
01:48
I thought like, you know, we live in an age now
01:51
where you can make AI anything, literally,
01:53
like AI, whatever you want, a lot of AI stuff out there.
01:56
Somewhat's funny, somewhat's crap, somewhat's whatever.
02:00
AI long form, AI short form, AI podcast, AI, everything.
02:05
And so I thought about this.
02:06
I thought, you know what?
02:08
In this age we live in today, 2026,
02:11
if you want your content, your brand to stand out,
02:14
I think that if you can somehow be more human than the AI,
02:20
I think people are going to lean to that versus AI stuff.
02:25
If I could drop the bike without like that being an issue,
02:29
But I'm in 100% agreement of that for sure.
02:34
And I was thinking about this, man,
02:35
you're like, because because we can feed stuff in AI,
02:38
all these different AI places that make videos and stuff now,
02:41
even podcasts now, and you can totally do that.
02:43
You can take whatever content or script or whatever you want
02:46
and feed it into the thing and have it create something.
02:49
That's fine, it's fun, whatever.
02:50
But I think that, so I've heard from other creators,
02:54
other people have said this, is that when they get a whiff
02:56
of some content and the whiff of AI in the content,
03:01
they tune out, they check out, they flip it off,
03:03
they change the channel or whatever they do.
03:06
Unless it's like, obviously AI and it's humor, it's funny,
03:12
it's fun, but even those videos get very old very fast.
03:14
I mean, for a minute there was like,
03:16
oh, the AI talking baby ones, I'm sure you've seen those ones.
03:19
The baby comes out of the womb and they ask him,
03:21
oh, what do you like about the world right now?
03:22
And they say something stupid, like, oh, I'm broke.
03:24
So send me back or whatever, get out.
03:26
So things like that, those are fun,
03:28
but they get overplayed very quickly.
03:31
And I just kind of wonder with like the car stuff,
03:33
if some of that car stuff, at least for me,
03:35
if a lot of us car videos got overplayed very quickly for me too,
03:38
oh, here's another review on this car.
03:40
Okay, I've already seen that.
03:41
Here's another review on this car.
03:41
I've already seen that.
03:43
You know, I don't know.
03:44
My biggest frustration with like AI generated like car content
03:48
is that for some reason, like just whatever AI
03:53
interpretation of how a car drives, they can't-
03:56
Oh yeah, like sideways.
03:59
I don't understand why they can't figure that out.
04:02
That frustrates me in every like video
04:05
where they try to show like a car driving.
04:07
It's always like cricket like that.
04:10
The day where they fix that, I'm like, all right,
04:12
well, maybe they're on a like a more positive track now,
04:15
but it seems like that's just the hardest thing
04:16
for AI to wrap its head around.
04:18
Well, I'm not seeing this one,
04:19
but this guy like closed the,
04:21
the guy in the car closed the door,
04:22
but somehow the door went through him.
04:24
But he closed it on his-
04:25
Well, the door went through somehow.
04:27
Like he was, he was inside the car one second
04:30
and like now he's outside the car
04:31
the next second and the door closed
04:32
and it didn't even like, he didn't get around the door
04:34
and went like through him.
04:36
So, but goofy things like that.
04:38
AI is getting better.
04:39
It's getting really, really good.
04:40
It's getting really, really hard to tell
04:42
like if, like what is really photorealistic
04:45
versus like, you know, like what really was shot
04:48
versus AI kind of stuff.
04:49
It's very, very close that kind of stuff.
04:51
And I'm just saying that like,
04:53
if you're a content creator of any kind,
04:55
that the more like real human,
04:59
like humanness that you can put into your content,
05:02
I think the better.
05:03
And one way to do that is to not be as flashy,
05:05
not to be all crazy, you know, you know,
05:08
hate to say like jump cuts and all the different flashy
05:10
graphics and flashy stuff and the pristine audio
05:13
and the pristine video and the pristine,
05:15
you know, all the different things
05:17
because AI can do a lot of stuff, you know.
05:21
I mean, do what you do.
05:23
Do whatever you do or mix easy for you
05:24
and it's something you can enjoy.
05:26
If you enjoy doing it, go and do it, you know,
05:28
go ahead, go ahead.
05:29
But I think if you're going to try to stand out,
05:31
stand apart from all the AI stuff,
05:33
is to make your content look less like AI?
05:38
So that's my thought.
05:39
Two cents of the day.
05:40
Take it or leave it.
05:43
And this has been fantastic.
05:44
I have you on the show tonight in Courage.
05:46
I really appreciate you stopping by today, man.
05:48
And you know, where can everybody find
05:49
about your YouTube channel?
05:51
What's the handle for it?
05:52
Where can you find it at?
05:53
If you feel free to check out the Driven Dad 22
05:56
that comes up pretty, pretty quick.
05:58
If you put it in the Driven Dad 22
06:00
on YouTube and Instagram,
06:01
and might be expanding that
06:02
based on this conversation to some other platforms,
06:05
but that's where it's at.
06:06
Dude, the world's your oyster, man.
06:08
Anywhere you want to go, man.
06:09
Anywhere you want to go.
06:10
I mean, there's lots of platforms out there.
06:13
Just do what you got to do.
06:14
I think building the brand or, you know,
06:17
like you as a brand, no matter where it gets distributed,
06:21
it's like you, I think kind of funneled through you
06:23
in funneled through.
06:23
So I think like, with me,
06:26
I've heard people say they heard of me,
06:27
even though they haven't seen my stuff,
06:28
they's like, I've heard of you.
06:30
That's just as good for them concerned.
06:32
Because it means that they're aware of me.
06:35
If you're aware of me, it's a start, you know,
06:38
because the worst thing you can say is like,
06:40
if someone says, don't you know who I am?
06:42
And they say, no, I don't actually have no idea.
06:45
I don't know who you are.
06:46
You know, I've always wanted to like,
06:48
see someone actually pull that in the wild,
06:50
like a celebrity, like pull that move in the wild,
06:52
like, don't you know who I am?
06:55
Not to go on another tangent,
06:57
but I did this Warner Brothers Studios tour last,
07:00
well, in the last year.
07:01
And they were telling us that there was one tour
07:04
that they did where there was like,
07:06
it was some studio or some show that's on right now.
07:10
It's like a hospital drama show or something like that.
07:13
And the actors were on set as they were doing this,
07:16
they were like within like the,
07:17
on the campus while they were doing this tour.
07:20
And the actors like saw the tour bus coming by.
07:22
And so they were kind of like waving like,
07:24
Hey, how are you guys and everything?
07:26
Like expecting that the people on the tour knew who they were.
07:29
And nobody on the tour bus knew who they were.
07:32
It was really awkward.
07:34
Cause yeah, like people thought that,
07:36
Oh, do these guys work here?
07:38
Or like, you know, this is just like,
07:40
just just a tour staff,
07:41
but like these are legitimate actors like on this show
07:44
that like actually a lot of people watch,
07:46
but nobody on that particular tour knew who they were.
07:49
And so that's so odd.
07:51
Cause you would think that like the TMZ, you know, the,
07:53
like TMZ in the wild, they'll like, Oh, they got,
07:55
they're shooting some celebrity in the total while, like,
07:58
you know, hat on glasses on.
07:59
I wouldn't even recognize them.
08:00
They look no makeup or nothing.
08:02
I'm like, who is that person?
08:04
That person really didn't look like that person.
08:06
How would you even know that, you know?
08:07
And so that's kind of funny how nobody knew.
08:10
That's kind of like the worst thing you want to have happen to you
08:12
when you get to a level of fame.
08:14
Is that nobody knows who you are.
08:16
And on top of that, like you,
08:17
when you actually make the assumption that people know,
08:20
and then like you're wrong that like people don't know actually,
08:24
it's kind of nice when you like maybe stay under the radar
08:26
and then you have people come up to you and like,
08:29
Oh yeah, I recognize you or I'd watch you on that show.
08:31
But, you know, when you, when,
08:34
when you make that conscious effort to maybe like
08:37
put yourself out there to say like, Oh, I'm this person.
08:39
And like that they have no idea of what that is.
08:42
That that's probably like one of those like
08:44
where you wake up from like a dream or something.
08:46
And like, I had this nightmare that like,
08:49
like I did all of this and like,
08:51
I'm like this quote unquote famous person
08:53
and nobody knows who I am.
08:54
Like it was, they said on the same,
08:57
on the same day, Seth Rogan was actually there, like,
09:00
you know, filming his like, you know,
09:02
filming his show studio on sat there too.
09:05
And obviously everybody knew who he was.
09:09
Yeah. Well, I mean, it sometimes happens to me too.
09:11
I get, I go out in public, you know,
09:12
I'm like, Chris, hey, I'm like,
09:14
okay, no autographs today.
09:16
You know, I mean, come on out.
09:17
I got things to do.
09:18
I got things to do.
09:19
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09:20
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09:23
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09:24
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09:26
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09:29
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09:31
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09:32
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09:35
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09:36
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09:39
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09:41
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