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127 - Dealership Experience matters

127 - Dealership Experience matters

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About this episode

Steven Fenwick reveals he’s ordered a Mercedes-Benz CLA Electric 350, expected around September, and discusses the wait as his lease ends in August. The show also takes a listener call from Lenny, who and his wife navigated multiple EV options and ultimately bought a Cooper (with a focus on what’s missing vs European specs). Lenny praises the dealership experience but complains about stripped-out tech, then shares home-charging upgrades from a granny charger to an EVnex wall unit and early ownership quirks.

Technical Too Afraid to Ask
Company

NRMA Insurance

"Great to have you company NRMA Insurance helping Australians protect what matters most for a hundred years and more. [15.9s] And they're also one of Australia's largest insurers of electric vehicles. [18.5s] So all we ask is that if you're in the market for insurance..."

NRMA Insurance is a company that sells car insurance in Australia. They’re talking about insuring electric cars and offering quotes.

Term

dash cam

"And while you're there on your online, have a look at UNIDEN smart dash cams and get yourself a dash cam for your car, EV or otherwise. [38.2s] You might have two or three cars in the driveway, get a dash cam for all of them because it'll give you peace of mind on the road. [43.7s] Frightened back. Two cameras frightened back."

A dash cam is a small camera that records what’s happening on the road while you drive. If there’s an accident or argument, the footage can help show what really happened.

Car

Mercedes-Benz Mercedesbenz Cla

"Yeah, it is the level down. So it is the Mercedes-Benz CLA Electric. 350."

The Mercedes-Benz CLA (C117) is a compact electric car with a coupe-like shape. In the podcast, they mention the CLA Electric 350, which is the electric version and a specific trim/model variant. It’s brought up because it’s one of the EVs they looked at.

Car

Mercedes-Benz CLA Electric

"Yeah, it is the level down. [93.6s] So it is the Mercedes-Benz CLA Electric."

This is Mercedes-Benz’s compact electric car. It’s meant to be a smaller, more affordable-feeling EV with a sporty look, but it runs on electricity instead of gasoline.

Car

Tesla Model

"...ou guys. We looked at Polestar 2 and we looked at Tesla Model Y and Tesla Model S and the Mustang Marquis and a..."

The Tesla Model Y is a fully electric SUV. It’s designed to be practical for daily use, and it’s popular enough that many people compare other EVs to it. The hosts mention it because they looked at it as part of their EV shortlist.

Car

Ford Mustang

"...looked at Tesla Model Y and Tesla Model S and the Mustang Marquis and a few others."

The Ford Mustang is a famous car model name. In this podcast, it’s brought up because the hosts are comparing it to other electric cars they considered. It’s basically one of the options people look at when shopping for an EV.

Car

Tesla Model S

"...lestar 2 and we looked at Tesla Model Y and Tesla Model S and the Mustang Marquis and a few others."

The Tesla Model S is an all-electric car in sedan form. It’s meant to be a more upscale option compared with smaller EVs, and it’s well known among electric-car shoppers. The hosts include it because they reviewed it alongside other EVs.

Car

Polestar 2

"...rney started way back with you guys. We looked at Polestar 2 and we looked at Tesla Model Y and Tesla Model S ..."

The Polestar 2 is a fully electric car. It’s a compact sedan, and in the podcast it’s mentioned because the hosts compared it with other electric cars they were considering. It’s basically one of the options on their EV list.

Car

Zeekr Zika 7X

"Time to do it. We drove the Model Zika 7X, which I was impressed with. You and thousands of..."

The Zeekr 7X is an electric SUV. The hosts mention it because they drove it and were impressed with it. It’s included as part of their hands-on look at different EVs.

Term

SIM card

"In Europe, there's a SIM card so that you can check in on it, start the cooling and all that kind of stuff."

It’s like the phone SIM that gives the car internet access. With that connection, your phone app can talk to the car and do things like turn on cooling before you get in.

Concept

start the cooling

"In Europe, there's a SIM card so that you can check in on it, start the cooling and all that kind of stuff."

This means turning on the car’s air conditioning before you get in. It helps you arrive in a comfortable cabin without waiting for the car to cool down after you start driving.

Term

head up display

"Is that one of the big gripes along with head up display? Yeah, that's the main gripe."

A head-up display shows important info on the windshield, like speed or directions. That way you don’t have to take your eyes off the road to check the dashboard.

Concept

costs about $1.50 a night to charge

"Yeah, and we use it for the weekends because it's a lot cheaper to run as you understand. It costs about $1.50 a night to charge, you know?"

They’re talking about what it costs to charge the EV overnight. Your actual cost will vary based on your electricity price and how much you charge each night.

Term

ute

"I drive a ute. I don't need to drive a ute, but we like our utes. I like my ute to, you know, go to the dump and use it as a ute."

A “ute” is an Australian/NZ term for a pickup-style vehicle with an open cargo bed. The host uses it to describe a practical, everyday use case (like going to the dump) that they want to keep even if they’re considering EVs.

Concept

lease ends

"By the time that lease ends, there might be other options. We know we spoke to the guy about the Sangyong that he's driving."

A lease is a rental contract for a car. When the lease ends, you usually have to return the car or choose a new one, which is why they’re waiting to see what EVs are available then.

Term

granny charging

"What have you done at home to cope? Have you gone granny charging?"

“Granny charging” means plugging your EV into a normal home wall socket to charge it. It’s usually slower than dedicated EV chargers, but it can work if you have time overnight.

Term

wall charger

"Have you installed a wall charger? What's been that experience?"

A wall charger is the EV charging box you install at home on a wall. It plugs into your home’s power so your car can charge faster and more conveniently, often overnight.

Brand

Evnex

"So we've got an Evnex, I think it's called. Evnex 7 kilowatt wall charger."

Evnex is a company that makes EV chargers. They’re using an Evnex wall charger rated at 7 kilowatts, which affects how fast their car can charge at home.

Term

8 cents a kilowatt

"We can charge at midnight for the 8 cents a kilowatt type of thing and go from there."

They’re quoting their electricity price—about 8 cents per unit of charging power. The idea is to charge when electricity is cheapest, so it costs less.

Concept

battery

"That's standing. And at some point in the future, we'll probably look into a battery, but at this stage, that's how we're charging."

They’re talking about possibly adding a home battery later. A home battery can store electricity so you can use it for charging when it’s most convenient or cheapest.

Concept

public charges

"We haven't used any public charges yet. Oh, okay."

“Public charges” are EV charging stations you use outside your home. They’re useful for trips, but you can live without them if you mostly charge at home.

Term

gear lever

"And then you get in, you're like, I've forgotten. The little gear lever. Oh, mate, it's embarrassing."

A gear lever is the stick or handle you move to choose gears like Park or Drive. The host is saying it’s embarrassing when you forget how that specific car’s controls work.

Car

2010 Mazda 6

"How old was the car that she used to drive? I was a 2010 Mazda, 2010 Mazda 6."

The Mazda 6 is a regular family-sized car made by Mazda. The host mentions a 2010 Mazda 6 to explain that when you drive different cars, you have to relearn where controls are and how they feel.

Term

adaptive cruise control

"Because, mate, adaptive cruise control [666.8s] you probably didn't have on the old Mazda"

Adaptive cruise control is like normal cruise control, but it also watches the car in front of you. If that car slows down, your car slows down too, and then speeds up again when the road clears.

Car

Mazda 2

"...d to go to the shops and there was a Cooper and a Mazda 2 from 2012 in the driveway. She'd go to the Mazda."

The Mazda 2 is a small car that’s usually used for everyday driving and shopping trips. In the podcast, it’s mentioned because a 2012 model was in the driveway and was being used. It’s included as a reference point for what the owners were used to.

Concept

took delivery

"Where are you at in your EV? [944.6s] Well, we believe you've put your money down on an MG for the Urban. [950.5s] We actually took delivery on Tuesday. [954.1s] Fresh."

“Took delivery” means they’ve officially gotten the car from the dealership. It’s the point where the car is really yours and you can start using it.

MG4
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Car

MG4

"What is that? [967.5s] Because it doesn't look as sharp and angled as, say, the MG4. [972.7s] It's a little bit more, I don't know, rounded on the edges or something."

The MG4 is an MG electric car (a small hatchback). In this segment, they’re using it as a reference to say the other MG looks less sharp and more rounded.

Car

MG3

"And so she went from an MG3 to the MG4. ... the MG3, you know, that was a petrol car."

The MG3 is a small MG hatchback. Here they’re saying it was a petrol car and that it was priced well, so lots of people bought it and it left a good impression.

Brand

MG

"That is a huge endorsement of MG because the MG3, you know, that was a petrol car. ... So she obviously had a very positive experience with the brand."

MG is the car brand being discussed. The hosts are saying MG earned trust because the MG3 was good value and lots of people bought it, so she wanted to keep looking at MG models.

Term

heated seats

"So we turn on the heated seats and she goes, yeah, this will do. [1052.3s] Wow. [1053.1s] So the MG3 was bought on the colour."

Heated seats are car seats with built-in warmth. When you turn them on, they heat up so you’re not sitting on a cold seat.

Term

solar at home

"Because we've got solar at home. I just put a 42 kilowatt battery on as well at home. And I just sort of said, and I just said, look, we've got all this energy."

“Solar at home” means putting solar panels on your house to make electricity. If you drive an EV, that electricity can help charge it without buying as much power from the grid.

Concept

fill up an EV for free

"And I said, look, you can fill up an EV for free. You don't have to go to a petrol station anymore. She hates putting fuel in a car, like detests it."

They mean charging their EV doesn’t cost them much (or anything) because they’re making their own electricity at home. With solar and storage, you can use your own power instead of buying fuel or grid electricity.

MG4 EV
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Car

MG4 EV

"I'm on the MG4 EV configurator. Yes. And that color that's on the homepage, I don't see."

The MG4 EV is an electric car from MG. Here they’re talking about choosing the car online and how the available paint colors show up (or don’t) in the configurator.

Car

Mg4 Ev

"...l get to the plug in, but I'm curious. I'm on the MG4 EV configurator. Yes."

The MG4 is an electric hatchback. In the podcast, someone is looking at the online configurator, which is where you choose the version and options. It’s mentioned because it’s a car people consider when they want an EV that’s easier to buy.

Term

configurator

"I'm on the MG4 EV configurator. Yes. And that color that's on the homepage, I don't see."

A configurator is the website tool where you pick options for a car, like color. They’re checking if the color shown on the homepage is really available to order.

Term

launch color

"Was that a launch color or something? Because you can't order it in that color. You can only get it in white."

A launch color is a special paint color that might be offered only when the car first comes out. They’re asking if the color they see online was only available at launch.

Term

metallic

"It's green metallic. Stone green metallic. Where's that?"

Metallic paint has small reflective particles in it. That’s why the color can look richer and can shift slightly depending on the light.

Term

EV

"But the fact that it was an EV, was that something that she, you know, because even to this day, like my wife, she's thinking, yeah, I'm not sure if I want to go full EV or maybe a hybrid."

EV means electric vehicle. It’s a car that runs on electricity from a battery, not petrol.

Term

hybrid

"because even to this day, like my wife, she's thinking, yeah, I'm not sure if I want to go full EV or maybe a hybrid."

A hybrid is a car that uses two power sources: an electric motor and a petrol engine. It can use electricity sometimes, but it also has petrol as a backup.

Car

MG3

"Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, like we're putting $50 a fortnight into the MG3. And that would, you know, be keeping it nearly full."

MG3 is a small car (a hatchback) made by MG. They’re talking about using it for short, everyday trips, which is where an EV can work well if you can charge it at home or nearby.

Car

Ford Ranger

"I've got a Ford Ranger for work with a magic fuel card that I don't have to pay back."

The Ford Ranger is a pickup truck. They’re saying they use it for work, while the smaller MG3 is for everyday local trips.

Term

43 kilowatt version

"So we even, we just went with the 43 kilowatt version, is it?"

“43 kilowatt version” refers to the EV’s power rating (kilowatts), which is tied to how much electrical power the car can use for acceleration and charging behavior. In EV shopping, different “power” or “battery/charging” variants can change real-world range and how quickly you can replenish the battery.

Term

315 range

"The essence. 315 range. 316k range."

“315 range” means the car’s estimated distance you can drive on one full charge. It’s useful for planning when you’ll need to charge again.

Term

316k range

"315 range. 316k range. Told us about your amazing solar setup and battery setup."

“316k range” is the estimated distance the EV can go on a full charge, measured in kilometers. The exact number can vary depending on how and where you drive.

Term

solar setup

"Told us about your amazing solar setup and battery setup. So have you got a, did you get a, do we discuss if you've got a wall charger or how are you charging it?"

A solar setup means solar panels on the house that make electricity. If you charge your EV during sunny hours, you can use some of that solar power.

Term

granny charger

"You got the wall charger? No, I just got the granny charger. Okay."

A granny charger is the slow EV charger you plug into a regular home socket. It works, but it typically adds charge more slowly than a dedicated wall charger.

Company

Peter Stevens, MG in Ballarat

"It was Wayne at Peter Stevens, MG in Ballarat. Yep."

They’re naming the dealership in Ballarat (Peter Stevens for MG). The point is that the salesperson/dealership experience helped them feel comfortable with the EV.

Term

test drive

"And he's like, here, you know, you can grab the keys, take it for a drive, you know, and ... So if you're in the market and you just want a test drive on there, go and see him."

A test drive is your chance to drive the car before you commit. With an EV, it’s also a good time to ask questions about charging and whether the car fits your daily driving.

Term

type 2 to type 2

"Most cars come with a granny charger, not with a type 2 to type 2. So you want that, it's the kind of male and female ended cable. For those charged that don't have a cable."

“Type 2 to type 2” refers to the common European charging cable setup where both ends use Type 2 connectors. It’s the typical way to connect an EV to many public AC charging stations and some home wall units, so having the right cable matters if your car doesn’t include it.

Term

trickle charger

"One of them is the trickle charger. So if we, on a road trip and everything's broken, we can just plug into a PowerPoint anywhere and for days, we'll get it charged."

A trickle charger charges your EV slowly. It’s for when you have time, like leaving the car plugged in overnight or for a few days.

Place

Taronga Zoo

"And that, I was at Taronga Zoo yesterday and I took the Kia and they have public charging with no cable."

Taronga Zoo is a place in Sydney. The speaker used it as an example of a public charging spot that didn’t include a cable.

Term

certified for Australia

"They're probably half the price. Just make sure you get one that's certified for Australia. So it's been electrically certified here."

“Certified for Australia” means the cable meets local safety rules. It’s a way to avoid buying a cable that might not be safe or compatible.

Term

charging apps

"And it's worth, it's worthwhile to for, if you do, if there are some brands around you to download their apps, set them up just in case because you turn up at a charge and think, oh, I've got to download the app. ... And I've got to, sometimes there's not enough reception to download the app."

Charging apps are the apps you may need to use certain EV chargers. The hosts recommend setting them up before you arrive, because you might not be able to download them on the spot.

Term

EV charging stations

"Mate, just open up plug share the app or the website and look at all the charges in the kind of 200k radius and make sure you've got all the apps. ... So, and this is the thing before you go."

EV charging stations are places you plug your car into to recharge it. Before you leave, it helps to check what chargers are nearby so you’re not stuck.

Brand

PlugShare

"Mate, just open up plug share the app or the website and look at all the charges in the kind of 200k radius and make sure you've got all the apps. ... So plug share for sure."

PlugShare is an app that shows where EV charging stations are. It also helps you check which chargers are available so you don’t get surprised when you arrive.

Brand

ChargeFox

"And then basically, I mean, there's a million apps. There's EV, there's ChargeFox, there's Tesla."

ChargeFox is a company that runs some EV charging stations. Some of their chargers may need their specific app to work.

Term

200 kilometer radius

"But look at, as I say, look at the 200 kilometer radius around your home and see what all the brands are because there might be a couple of brands that you need special apps for. ... And it's worth, it's worthwhile to for, if you do, if there are some brands around you to download their apps, set them up just in case"

A 200 kilometer radius is a practical planning range used to map out nearby charging options around your home. The hosts use it as a rule of thumb for identifying which charging networks (and therefore which apps) you’ll likely need for everyday trips.

Concept

retail

"We looked after her on price as well. She got it much cheaper than retail, that's for sure."

Retail just means the usual listed price. They’re saying she paid less than the normal dealership price.

Brand

MG brand

"Anyway, look, I've got nothing bad to say about the MG brand. They're terrific."

MG is a car maker that’s usually focused on value—cars that are priced to be affordable. Here, the hosts are basically saying MG makes cars that do what they promise.

Brand

IM brand

"They've never tried to do more than what they did. They've brought in the IM brand to try to overstate."

The hosts mention an “IM” brand as something MG has added. They’re talking about how it’s meant to fit a certain market niche and not promise more than the cars can actually deliver.

Concept

overpromising and underdelivering

"They're not overpromising and underdelivering. They're just delivering."

“Overpromising and underdelivering” is a customer-experience concept: marketing or sales claims set expectations too high, but the real-world product experience falls short. The hosts argue the strategy here is the opposite—deliver what’s expected rather than exaggerate.

Polestar 2
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Car

Polestar 2

"So, two years ago, we were talking about I'd rented a Polestar 2 and it was quite an interesting insight going to public charges..."

The Polestar 2 is a fully electric car made by Polestar. They’re talking about it because they rented one and learned what charging in public is like—like whether the chargers actually work and are easy to use.

Car

Dodge Ram pickup truck V8 Hemi

"What's the story about? Dodge Ram pickup truck V8 Hemi. Almost."

They’re talking about a Dodge Ram pickup with a V8 Hemi engine, which is a classic gas-engine setup. It’s brought up mainly to compare a traditional truck to the electric car they’re discussing.

Term

dual motor

"I'm now a month into ownership of a Polestar 4 long range dual motor."

“Dual motor” means the car has two electric motors instead of one. That can help the car feel quicker and grip the road better.

Car

Polestar 4 long range dual motor

"I'm now a month into ownership of a Polestar 4 long range dual motor."

The Polestar 4 is an electric Polestar crossover. “Long range dual motor” means it has two electric motors and is set up to go farther on a charge than shorter-range versions.

Term

luxury car tax

"Under the luxury car tax was all it needed to do. Is that right?"

“Luxury car tax” is an extra tax some countries charge on more expensive cars. They’re saying the Polestar 4 was priced low enough that it didn’t trigger that extra tax.

Concept

dealership experience

"And what I noticed... was the dealership experience can actually, you know, make or break a sale and it did for me."

This means how the dealership treats you and handles the sale. The point here is that even if you like the car, a bad experience can make you walk away.

Concept

sleazy car salesman experience

"it was just the sleazy car salesman experience... if you don't buy this car, the next person will, you know, all those sorts of tactics."

They’re describing pushy, underhanded sales behavior. The speaker says it made them not want to give the dealer their money.

Brand

Kia

"And again, we've told this story a million times about my local Kia dealer and how I've tried to buy there twice and haven't done it."

Kia is a well-known car brand. In this story, the speaker tried to buy from a Kia dealer and didn’t end up purchasing.

Concept

last three feet of the sale

"What do they call it? [2023.2s] The last three feet of the sale? [2024.7s] Yeah."

It’s a sales saying about the final moments right before you buy. The idea is that what the salesperson does at the end—answering questions and guiding you through the last steps—can make or break the deal.

Concept

after sales service

"And, and even still, like, I mean, they're, they're after sales service has been amazing as well."

After-sales service is what the company does to help you after you’ve bought the car. That can include fixing problems and keeping you updated while it’s being sorted.

Brand

pole star Australia

"Like we've got a, we've got a slight issue with the car, just, just a wheel balance issue and pole star Australia call me every two days and they say, listen, I just want to give you an update on this."

Polestar Australia is Polestar’s support team in Australia. They’re calling regularly to update the customer about a problem with the car.

Term

wheel balance issue

"Like we've got a, we've got a slight issue with the car, just, just a wheel balance issue and pole star Australia call me every two days and they say, listen, I just want to give you an update on this."

Wheel balancing is making sure your tire and wheel spin smoothly. If it’s not balanced, the car can vibrate, and the shop can fix it by re-balancing the wheel.

Term

trickle charging

"[2130.6s] sounds like pole stars on a winner here with you. [2133.4s] And what have you done charging wise, mate? [2135.0s] Have you made some changes at home or are you trickle charging? [2137.8s] What's the plan?"

Trickle charging means charging your EV slowly. It usually takes longer, but it can be convenient if you have plenty of time and don’t need the car fully charged right away.

Term

22 kilowatt charging

"[2144.7s] So the, the EVX, you know, street mount charges, but the car's got 22 kilowatt charging. [2150.4s] So we, you know, we drop it off and walk home. [2152.4s] It's 200 meters home and then go for an afternoon walk and pick the car up on the way back through."

22 kilowatt charging is how fast the charger can charge the car. Higher kilowatts usually means faster charging, though the car may not always pull the full amount.

Term

9.7 kilowatts

"[2162.3s] Which is, you know, one of those, again, it's a, it's that Taronga zoo thing. [2165.7s] I was there, it's 22 kilowatt charger, but I'm getting 9.7 kilowatts in the Kia. [2170.0s] So it's like, it makes a big difference."

9.7 kilowatts is the real charging speed you’re getting. Even if a charger is capable of more, your car might only pull part of that, so it charges slower than you’d expect.

Concept

one-star review

"So I know, I know, but it's, I think that a lot of the time people just leave a one-star review or something and it doesn't really go anywhere."

A one-star review is when someone rates a business very poorly. The point here is that dealerships shouldn’t just ignore those reviews—they should use them to improve how they handle customers.

Term

pre-delivery

"Even if, do you know what, if the salesman took me out the back and said, this one's just been here. It's going through pre-delivery."

Pre-delivery is what the dealership does to get a new car ready before you pick it up. For EVs, it can include making sure everything is set up correctly so the customer’s first experience goes smoothly.

Concept

long game

"And that, that's sort of the long game. And you know what, the long game, their end of the theme of this show."

“Long game” means they’re not just trying to sell you one car. They’re trying to keep you as a customer for years by making the whole buying experience feel good.

Concept

booked out for eight weeks

"It's like, mate, we're booked out for eight weeks. [2482.0s] Yeah, well, that's arrogance."

“Booked out” means the dealership is already fully booked and can’t fit new appointments for a while. They’re suggesting that when a dealer is that busy, it can make them less attentive to customers.

Place

Gold Coast

"So what if we go to the Gold Coast? [2521.5s] Where are we going? [2522.5s] Somewhere up there. Gold Coast, yeah."

The Gold Coast is a place in Australia. In this moment, they’re just talking about where to go next.

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