“Nanny controls” is a nickname people use for car systems that step in to control what the driver is doing. The idea is that newer cars do more of the driving-safety work automatically.
The Dodge Viper is a famous 1990s muscle/sports car. The point here is that it was built with fewer safety and driving-assist features than newer cars, so it feels more raw and old-school.
Traction control helps prevent the wheels from spinning when the road is slippery. It can automatically slow things down or adjust power so you keep grip.
Airbags are safety cushions that pop out in a crash to help protect your body. They started becoming common in the 1990s as car safety rules increased.
Pop-up headlights are headlights that rise out of the front of the car when you turn them on. When they’re off, they sit flush with the body for a cleaner look.
Pedestrian crash safety means the car is designed to be less dangerous to people outside the car if there’s a crash. Designers try to make parts of the front end less likely to cause serious injuries.
Pop-up headlights are headlights that pop up from the front of the car when you turn them on. The way they sit and the edges around them can matter for how safe the front end is to pedestrians.
Cup holders are the built-in spots in a car where you can put a drink so it doesn’t spill. The hosts are pointing out that some 1990s cars didn’t include them.
The Porsche Boxster is a small two-seat sports car with the engine placed closer to the middle of the car. People talk about it because it’s fun to drive and because early models were more basic than later ones. It’s the kind of car you’d choose for weekend driving.
The Porsche 911 is Porsche’s famous sports car. The hosts are talking about whether newer 911s still have ashtrays or if they’ve replaced that space with cup holders.
“Car bras” are covers you put on the front of a car to help protect the paint from small rocks and road debris. They’re like a temporary shield for the hood area.
Homologation cars are race cars that automakers had to make and sell in limited numbers so they could compete in certain racing categories. That rule is why some race-inspired cars from the 1990s were so extreme.
The Bugatti EB110 is a famous, very expensive supercar from the 1990s. The hosts mention it because they’re debating which 1990s cars are “unsexy,” and then they point out that this one is actually a real Bugatti.
Here, “electronics” means the car’s computer systems that help control things like how the engine runs. The host is saying 1990s cars had a reasonable amount of that tech, which helped reliability.
Fuel injection is how a car meters gas into the engine using valves controlled by the car’s computer. The idea here is that 1990s cars used it more, which can make them run more consistently than older carbureted setups.
The Toyota Celica is a smaller car that’s meant to feel sporty. It’s not a luxury supercar, but it’s designed to be more fun than a basic commuter. People mention it when they’re talking about classic sporty Toyota models.
The Miata (MX-5) is a small two-seat convertible designed for fun driving. It’s usually easy to live with and focuses on handling rather than power. That’s why it’s often picked for weekend trips.
Car
Miata
The Mazda Miata is a small, light sports car meant for driving fun. People like it because it’s easy to handle and doesn’t cost as much as many other sports cars.
The Acura NSX is a fast sports car made by Acura. It’s designed to drive well both on normal roads and on a track. People mention it because it’s a serious performance car, not just a look-alike.
The Toyota Supra Turbo is a version of the Supra that uses a turbocharger. Turbochargers help the engine make more power, which is why people get excited about this model.
JDM means “Japanese cars made for the Japanese market.” Enthusiasts like them because they often have interesting features and performance, and many became famous in the 1990s.
The Ferrari F50 is a famous 1990s Ferrari supercar. It’s known for its high-revving V12 and for feeling very “race car” compared to normal road cars. The host is also pointing out that you can remove the roof, which makes it feel even more special.
The Lamborghini LM 002 is a Lamborghini SUV, not a typical sports car. It was made to handle rough terrain while still using very powerful engineering. People mention it because it’s a rare and surprising Lamborghini model.
The Ford Falcon is an older Ford car model. In this conversation, it’s being talked about as something you could drive around for fun. It’s the kind of classic car people choose for casual cruising.
The Ferrari FF is a Ferrari designed for longer trips and carrying more people than a typical supercar. It has four-wheel drive, which helps it grip better in different conditions. People mention it when they want a Ferrari that’s more practical for everyday use.
“Roof off” means the car’s convertible top is down. It’s basically the open-air version of driving the same car.
Car
1998 Lexus LS400
The Lexus LS400 is a comfortable, quiet luxury car that became famous in the 1990s. This episode’s host is talking about a 1998 version and pairing it with a specific premium sound system.
Nakamichi is a company that makes high-end car audio. If a car has a “Nakamichi sound system,” it typically means the stereo and speakers are upgraded beyond the normal factory setup.
Term
VVTI
This is an engine technology that helps the car make better power depending on how fast the engine is spinning. The idea is that the engine can adjust valve timing instead of using one fixed setting.
Term
Burmeisters or Bermesters
The host is comparing Nakamichi to other luxury car audio brands. They’re basically saying those other premium systems don’t sound as good as the Nakamichi setup they’re praising.
Mercedes S-Class is a top-tier luxury car line. The speaker is bringing it up because it’s known for expensive, high-quality options—including audio systems.
The Grand Cherokee is a Jeep SUV that can handle more than just regular roads. It’s built to be comfortable for daily driving but still capable on rough trails. That’s why it’s a common choice for people who want one vehicle for both uses.
“Off road” just means driving on unpaved or rough ground instead of regular pavement. It’s where tires, suspension, and traction become more important.
A “fire road” is a dirt road in the woods or mountains that’s meant for access, not racing or rock crawling. The point here is that the Jeep is more suited to simpler dirt-road driving than hardcore trails.
“Carbureted” means the engine uses a carburetor to deliver the fuel-air mix, instead of electronic fuel injection. “360 CI” is just a way of saying the engine is a big V8 with 360 cubic inches of displacement.
“Torquey” means the engine has strong pulling power. It usually feels easier to accelerate and move heavy weight without needing to rev the engine as high.
This is a very rare Porsche “Turbo S” version of the 968. The big deal is that it’s not just a normal production car—it’s tied to racing rules, which is why it was made in tiny numbers.
The Porsche 944 Turbo is an older Porsche that uses a turbocharged engine and is known as a driver-focused sports car. Here it’s mentioned mainly to help you understand what the 968 Turbo S is like in spirit and layout.
The Porsche 928 is a two-door Porsche coupe designed for comfortable long drives. It uses a V8 engine and has a distinctive look, including its headlight shape. People bring it up as an older Porsche that’s more about grand touring than pure track racing.
Joshua Tree is a hot, dry desert area in California. If you park cars outside there, the sun and dust can be harder on paint and finishes than in a garage.
Leaving cars without a garage shifts the protection burden to covers, sealants, and regular cleaning. Outdoor storage increases exposure to UV, dust, and temperature cycling, which can accelerate wear on exterior surfaces and some rubber/plastic components.
This is a special 1990s Lancia rally car that was built to be fast and grip well, especially in corners. The “Integrale” part is the famous performance version, and “Evolutione” means it’s a later, improved iteration.
“Street legal” means the car is allowed to drive on public roads. It usually has to meet legal requirements like lights, tires, and emissions rules (depending on where you live).
The G-Class is a Mercedes-Benz SUV with a very recognizable boxy shape. It’s built to handle off-road driving while still being comfortable. People talk about it because it’s both tough and luxurious.
The Chevrolet Malibu is a regular, everyday car (a mid-size sedan). It’s meant for comfortable commuting and normal driving. People mention it because it’s a well-known model name.
“G-Wagon” is a nickname for a Mercedes-Benz off-road SUV. It’s the kind of vehicle people use when they want something tough and dependable to drive to an event.
Power steering is what makes it easier to turn the steering wheel. Without it, turning—especially when the car is stopped or moving slowly—takes a lot more effort.
The gearbox is the part that changes gears so the engine can work efficiently at different speeds. Here, they’re talking about where it sits in the car compared to the engine. That placement can affect packaging and visibility, not just driving.
A mid-engine car puts the engine closer to the middle of the car instead of the front. That can help the car feel more balanced. It also affects how the car is built, including where the transmission/gearbox can fit.
“Transverse” means the engine and gearbox are turned sideways in the car. That can make it easier to fit everything into the space the car has. They’re using it to explain different ways mid-engine cars can be packaged.
Visibility is how easy it is for the driver to see out of the car. Some mid-engine sports cars have a lower, more tightly packaged cabin, which can make sightlines worse. They’re saying that might be the biggest difference for the car they’re discussing.
The Kia Niro is a small SUV-style car that’s built to use less fuel. Many versions are hybrid or plug-in hybrid, which helps reduce gas use. It’s the kind of car people choose for practical everyday driving.
The Lexus LS 400 is a big, comfortable luxury car that became famous for being very smooth and dependable. Here, the host is joking that if someone showed up with one, the car guys might not let it park with the more enthusiast cars.
A body kit is a set of add-on parts that changes how a car looks from the outside. It can make the car look more aggressive and sometimes help with airflow.
The Ferrari Dino 208 GT4 is a small, sporty Ferrari made for driving excitement. It’s mid-engine, meaning the engine is placed closer to the middle of the car. People talk about it because it’s a special Ferrari model with a strong design and performance focus.
Dana 60 is the name of a strong, heavy-duty axle used on many trucks. Putting Dana 60 axles under a vehicle is meant to make it tougher for off-road or high-stress driving.
“GM 6-liter V8” is a big V8 engine from General Motors, about 6.0 liters. The host is saying they’d put that kind of engine in the Jeep to make it stronger and more powerful for real-world driving.
“Drive train” (drivetrain) is the set of components that delivers power from the engine to the wheels, including things like the transmission, driveshafts, differentials, and axles. In this context, they’re listing what would be modernized to make the SUV feel “perfectly modern.”
The Lamborghini Countach is a famous Italian supercar. In this conversation, they’re saying they wouldn’t drive it much because it’s more of a showpiece/collector car than something you drive around.
Cars and Coffee is a casual car meetup where people bring cars to show them off and hang out. The host is saying they’d bring the Countach there to be seen.
The Palisades Motor Classic is a named car show/event referenced as a place to compete for awards. The host’s plan is to enter the Countach there “to win Best of Class,” framing the car as a judged, display-focused entry rather than a driver.
Brand
Pin and Ferrena Magazine
This sounds like a car magazine from Italy that the speaker’s dad had. It’s being used to show how deep the family’s car interest goes.
Car
Ferrari Testarosa
The Ferrari Testarosa is a famous Italian supercar from the late 1980s and 1990s. It’s known for its mid-engine design and the bold styling that made it a pop-culture icon.
Coventry is a place in the UK that’s known for making cars. The host mentions it to explain the family’s connection to British cars.
Car
XJ6L
This is a Jaguar XJ6 in a longer-wheelbase “L” form. It’s basically a classic Jaguar sedan that’s stretched for extra rear-seat space and a more stately feel.
The Cupra Born is a small electric car (a hatchback). It runs on electricity instead of using gas. People mention it because it’s a practical size while still aiming to feel sporty.
The Porsche 356 is an early Porsche sports car from the company’s classic era. It’s a rear-engine design and is now considered a highly collectible classic.
The Porsche 912 is a classic Porsche from the same family as the 911. Here it’s mentioned as a spare engine source, which shows how people used extra parts to keep their older Porsches going.
A BMW 635 CSI is an older BMW coupe with a traditional layout—engine up front and power going to the back wheels. It’s the kind of car people often learn to drive a manual in because it’s mechanically simple and predictable.
The Volkswagen Passat is a regular mid-size car meant for everyday commuting. In the conversation, it’s being used as an example of a car that’s straightforward to drive. It’s not a sports car—more about comfort and practicality.
A “California stop” means you slow down at a red light or stop sign, but you don’t fully stop before going. People call it that because it’s something drivers are often known for doing in California. It’s usually not the correct/legal way to drive.
The Pontiac Trans Am is a classic American muscle car. It’s known for being loud and powerful, and people often remember them for their style and sound. Here, the speaker is saying his dad owned one when he was growing up.
“Automatic” means the car changes gears by itself. You don’t have to use a clutch pedal to shift. The speaker is pointing out that his dad’s car was set up this way.
Term
Teetops off
“Teetops off” means taking off the roof panels so you can drive with the top open. It’s a fun, open-air feeling. The speaker is saying they even took a driving test in that kind of car.
This is an enthusiast mindset that says you should actually use a car the way it was meant to be used. Instead of keeping it perfect and barely driving it, you drive it hard enough to enjoy what it can do.
Ferruccio Lamborghini was the person who started Lamborghini. The joke is that he’d be upset if you treated a Lamborghini like a museum piece instead of driving it.
“Built to run” means the car is designed to be used, not just stored. Driving it regularly helps keep the engine and fuel system from getting dirty or clogged.
A V12 is an engine with 12 cylinders arranged in a V shape. More importantly here: the host is saying you need to actually drive it so the engine stays clean instead of building up deposits.
Carbon buildup is gunk that forms inside the engine over time. If you don’t drive the car enough (or don’t get it up to proper operating conditions), that gunk can build up and hurt how well the engine runs.
A carburetor is the part that mixes fuel with air so the engine can burn it. If the car sits or isn’t driven, the fuel can leave residue and the carburetor can get clogged or sticky.
It’s basically the fear of damaging something expensive and rare. If you care a lot about keeping it perfect, you may hesitate to drive it because you don’t want scratches or other problems.
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Welcome to Best in Class, the podcast where we talk about the best versions of the best
cars.
Thank you for joining me, Steve and Andrew and Veronica.
How are you guys doing?
Pretty good.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Veronica, anything exciting?
Yeah.
I was at the Palisades Motor Classic this past weekend.
The first ever, right?
The first ever, but not the last.
Not the last.
Yeah.
So that...
In the burnout, in the burn zone.
In the burn zone, which is getting rebuilt quickly, I have to say.
Driving on sunset, I go about once a month.
And Saturday, the amount of homes that are now framed out, there's a lot of hope there.
Yeah.
Nice.
Can you beat that, Andrew?
Any car-related, vehicle-related thing over the weekend?
You know, just riding dirt bikes a little bit on Sunday.
I didn't fall.
So, good day.
Good day.
Didn't get hurt.
So that's a good day.
Oh, all right.
Okay.
All right.
I did not do any car-related things.
No.
No.
Would you do any non-car-related things that you like to share?
Yeah.
No.
No.
Nothing of interest.
Nothing of interest.
As always.
As always.
Nothing of interest.
I was looking forward to seeing you, since you did say you were going to come today.
I did say, and I just didn't quite make it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, I'm not sure if you're going to get a lot of parking right now.
Because when you're in Malibu, it's really hard to go anywhere else.
Yeah.
Because then you're not in Malibu anymore.
It gets exponentially less rich the further you get.
No.
I think the Palisades is more, I mean, not anymore.
Well, right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Too soon.
Are the speed limits still enacted?
They're not.
They're gone.
Yeah.
They're not...
A VCH?
Not like they were.
Oh.
It's not 20 the whole way.
25, I think.
Oh, no, no.
It is, but they're not enforcing it as much.
All right.
Steve?
No.
No.
Just kidding.
Don't do that.
How to change with those cops.
No.
It's still like 25.
They're just not as aggressive as they were before.
But it's still slow.
All right.
So we are on pod two with the three of us.
So you guys are still here.
So that's encouraging.
Thank you for keeping us.
Our listeners are still here.
Absolutely.
They're listening right now.
Drew had the idea that we should focus on 90s cars.
Let's choose our Boltzmann three car garage.
And how old were you in the 90s?
I was alive for two of those years.
1998.
Yes, two of those years.
So technically you have no idea what we're talking about.
I have no idea what life was like in the 90s.
You were two.
Yeah.
What year do you first remember about cars?
What did you say?
Probably 2003.
Probably 2002, 2003.
I feel like that's when I gained sentience.
That's pretty early.
Well, I just...
Four?
Yeah.
You're going to car shows at four?
It's because my dad had a digital camera with him at all times.
So I can look back on those memories or photos and think of them as memories.
In 2002, digital camera?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I feel like that's right.
You know how they used to put the time and date in the corner of the photo?
Yeah.
All of them are like that.
So I know all of them were taken in 2003 or 2004.
That's even an analog thing if you remember Steve.
Yeah.
Well, so I'm going to go through a few things that you probably never heard of because it's
the 90s.
So I'm going to take us back there for a minute.
Let's see if I know what you're talking about.
This is...
We're going to do AOL Instant Messenger.
Oh, of course.
That's how I started chatting with my husband.
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
There you go.
Dial-up modems.
Of course.
I have no idea what that sounds like.
Have you ever used a pay phone?
I have used a pay phone.
Okay.
Do you ever go to Blockbuster?
Yes.
Yes, I actually remember.
So that's gone.
So that's gone.
VHS tapes.
I know what those are.
Did you have a portable CD player?
Oh, absolutely.
Okay.
Wow.
Those are still gone.
Gaming magazines.
Remember those?
No, I was not.
I was out in the world.
You were out in the world?
Yeah.
Okay.
Zima.
Zima, of course.
Zima, sure.
That's a soft drink, isn't it?
Well...
What is it?
Well...
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
Remember POGs?
Is that not a game as well?
It's a game.
Yeah, no I didn't do that.
Yeah.
Y2K took us to the end.
Yeah, except it wasn't.
Except it wasn't?
Yeah.
Didn't change anything.
No.
Meeting people at the airport gate.
Remember that?
Oh, of course.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's where you...
Yes.
Wait, so tell me this.
Like, it wasn't the full security screening that we have today.
No.
It was...
You could go to the airport gate without going through security.
Well, can I add something to that?
Not only that, when you left from baggage claim, you had to show your ticket.
Yeah.
When you're leaving the airport.
That's right.
You had to show that those really were your bags.
Yeah.
Oh.
Now you can just take anybody's bag.
You can just grab anybody's bag and run.
That's right.
Yeah.
You don't even have to run.
This is a little insight Andrew's like...
You got so excited by that.
I just...
Okay.
Small things like that.
All right.
How do we trust each other?
I've never had a problem.
Well, I don't trust you and...
Not yet.
But now that I see you...
You've never had me.
...worrying.
You ever heard of a thing called movie phone, Andrew?
No.
No.
Oh, of course.
You used to call all the time.
That's what you would call to find out what movies you're playing.
At certain theaters.
You would call your phone.
And would it be in the phone book?
And it'd be like a...
No.
No.
Oh.
Specific.
Wow.
Just that just catered for movies in your...
You'd put in what?
Your area code.
And would it be a guy on the other line?
No, it was automated.
Automated.
Okay, so...
Yeah.
Nice.
Um, ashtrays and McDonald's?
No way.
You could smoke in a McDonald's.
Ashtrays and cars.
They're still kicking.
Oh, yeah.
Um, yep.
Mm-hmm.
Um, have you ever used a map?
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
Thomas Guide?
Oh, right.
Thomas Guide.
Atlas.
Yeah.
I delivered pizzas with a Thomas Guide.
Did you really?
Yeah.
Really?
So, wait.
You're working and you got to look up each individual address.
Yeah.
You're left at this road and think about it.
Wait, how do you feel about modern pizza delivery?
It's a joke, right?
Oh, they got easy.
Yeah.
That's why I don't tip.
I was like, yeah.
They're not working.
It's like, you're not even...
I was like, yeah.
Yeah.
Um, let's see.
How about...
Oh.
Um, missing a TV show.
Oh.
No Tivo.
You can't do that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You got to be home and ready.
Mm-hmm.
Have you ever chatted to an airline captain, like in the cockpit?
I have.
I have, actually.
Yeah, but hold on.
How young?
Well, no.
So, here's the...
I was a young kid.
I get there.
Yes.
So, there's a time.
I was reading a flying magazine, the magazine that's just called Flying.
Mm-hmm.
And the captain and the co-pilot saw it and they brought me into the cockpit and then
they emailed my mom a photo of me in the cockpit and my mom just got her email from a random
person of me inside of an airplane.
Amazing.
Okay.
That's never going to happen.
Do you still have this photo?
I think my mom does.
Yeah.
I bet she does.
Did they give you a pin?
I actually...
Wings.
I got the wings and then I got some booklets and stuff.
Yeah.
Well, I'm the same as I am today.
Yeah.
Or I was the same as I am today.
I'm just obsessed with airplanes.
When did you get...
Have you ever...
You've had a cell phone all your life.
Oh, first...
I think I got a cell phone in, like, junior year of high school, actually.
Okay.
Yeah.
Have you ever answered the phone without knowing who's on the other end?
Yes.
Okay.
Yeah.
I think I'm unique in that amongst my peers.
Did you have a pager ever?
I did.
Steve, yeah.
I did.
Can you describe it to me?
Because I'm curious.
Of how a pager works.
No, no.
What...
Did you have a stylish pager or just like a regular old block black one?
I was in the palace.
Did you have a belt clip for it?
I was...
Could you clip it onto your belt?
Yeah, of course.
I was a tennis instructor at the tennis club.
Oh, wow.
That is how I would book lessons.
So I look like a little drug dealer who had my pager.
Yeah.
And...
I loved a pager.
And it had...
You'd use all those, like, different code numbers.
Mm-hmm.
So you could be like, hey, I'm late or not going to make it or whatever it was.
I didn't know they had that.
I thought it would just tell you what number called or whatever and then you just call
them back.
It was a number, but you could be like, oh, hey, what does...
You know, I'll text you 700 if it means I'm not a pager.
Yeah.
Like, 143 was I Love You.
I remember that.
You probably didn't get that very often.
No.
Is it 143?
Yeah.
I and then Love is four and then you is three, dependent on the letters.
Okay.
Now I never got that one.
Yeah.
Well, one day.
I thought it was like one...
Because I thought it was three words, one meaning.
I thought it was like three words.
I think that's...
Yeah.
What is that?
Yeah.
I don't know.
What's that game?
Payphone.
All right.
I think it's like the show The Wire.
The show The Wire.
You know, I never did.
You've never seen it either.
No.
So I just got to say that show is a perfect example of pagers.
It's because it was filmed in the early 2000s when pagers were kind of the main thing and
it's just a perfect historical capsule of pagers.
Really?
All right.
Well, now I want to see it.
So have you ever developed a photo?
Yes.
Going to Walgreens or Costco.
Okay.
What photos were you getting?
Well, I like to get the disposable cameras and take them on backpacking trips.
Okay.
And then you take it to Walgreens afterwards.
Have you ever made a long distance phone call with coins?
No.
I don't think so.
I don't think so.
I've called internationally, but I think like over WhatsApp or something like that.
And you don't have to pay for that.
Did you ever meet up with friends before having a phone?
How did you do it?
Can you remember that?
To my memory?
No.
I'm sorry.
Pre-cell phone was my mom doing it.
And then post-cell phone, I had freedom.
What?
Before having a phone?
How long have phones been around, Steve?
No, I mean before like a mobile phone.
Oh, a mobile phone.
Okay.
All right.
All right.
And then I'll fight.
Because I think most of my life I've been coordinating with cell phones.
Okay.
Yeah.
Okay.
Maybe you know as a young kid.
All right.
So that takes me into 90s cars, which is what we're going to talk about.
This is your thing.
So I'm going to go over some things that were kind of 90s were the last of these things
for these cars.
So a lot of the stuff was the last time before we got all what they call like nanny controls.
So the 90s, like kind of a sports car was you had the viper that didn't have much things
like safety, no airbags or traction control.
Who needs it?
The 90s were like the last moment of that.
We have like super SUVs, which I'm going to talk about a little bit later.
The 90s were the last era.
99% of it for pop-up headlights.
Which is a shame.
Yeah.
Pedestrian safety though, you know, it could chop them up.
Is that right?
I think that's why they were out a lot.
Yeah, it's for pedestrian crash safety.
Because you could chop off a person's hand or something.
Well, you know, the top lip when the headlights popped up, it creates a blade that could potentially
injure someone.
You're supposed to be able to like get the car and roll over the top.
That's how they design it.
Yeah.
So if you pop up headlights then.
So, yeah.
90s were the last time that kind of, you didn't have cup holders.
Yeah.
After that, they just became like standard.
The Europeans really didn't think we needed them.
The first Boxster had no cup holders.
But you know what, I bet it did have an ashtray.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Do the current 911s have ashtrays in them?
It's a good question.
No, they come with the, it's a cup holder.
It's a cup holder.
It goes into the cup holder and it's a little flat.
It depends what you expect.
Yeah.
You can do like a plug in digital little thing, I think.
You can do different things.
Okay.
Do you remember car bras?
I'm sorry?
Yeah.
Say it again?
Car bras that you would put in the front of the car to protect it from chips.
I do, actually, yes, I do remember that.
I have one.
I have one for my 356.
Yeah.
But I never put it on because it's just like, it's already got rock chips.
What am I protecting?
Yeah.
Also, the 90s was kind of the golden age of the homologation cars.
So those are the ones that they were going racing and they had to make a certain amount
of them.
So we got some wild like Subaru, makes bee sheets, escorts.
What else?
So that's probably all the kind of 90s fun car things.
I have to say, when we were going and choosing cars of this era, you know, I'm going to argue
it's probably one of the least sexy periods of design for cars.
That is not true.
That is not true.
I'm going to stick to that.
Yeah.
Okay.
I did a pretty deep dive.
What's your first example?
Yeah.
What's the first car that pops in mind about an unsexy 90s car?
Just name one.
I mean, truly.
Well, the EB110 is probably not a sexy car.
Oh, God.
Well, now we're going deep and now I have to know.
That's a Bugatti.
Oh, a Bugatti.
I do have to say the 90s created a really good used car.
You know, something that's, you know, because they just had, they had just enough electronics
to create a really reliable car.
They had fuel injection and everything that the 80s and 70s didn't have.
Okay.
So, the Americans have brought us too much technology that I fear won't be as good 40
years from now, like a 90s car, you know, what do you guys think was the best selling
car in the 90s?
I'm just going to say in the US.
In the US.
Yeah.
Hmm.
Can we, can we go by category?
Is this, is it an SUV?
Is it a truck?
Is it a sedan?
Is it a Ford sedan?
It's a passenger car.
So it's a car.
So it's a sedan.
I mean, if I'm going to narrow it down for you, you're just supposed to guess.
I think, I think it's a Ford Taurus.
Okay.
I think it's a Ford Taurus.
Oh, interesting.
I'm going to go with Celica.
Oh, interesting.
Okay.
Uh, Taurus, you're correct.
Oh, wow.
Look at this guy.
Wow.
He went in jeopardy over there.
Damn.
Yeah.
You know, the Ford Taurus was very popular in the 90s.
Is that right?
I wasn't a lie.
You were all, you were only here for two years and you knew this.
Shout out Taurus Show, tuned by Yamaha.
Yeah.
Beautiful car.
Basically a police car.
Yep.
Yeah.
And so what you're saying is that due to that, you, you're saying it was a beautiful car.
Oh, the Ford Taurus, I don't think it's an aesthetically pleasing car.
Anyway, that's probably an unsexy car.
Yeah.
For sure.
I'll agree with that.
Um, all right.
Let's jump into this.
So, our...
Who's going first?
Um, I'll go first.
Very nice.
Yeah.
So, our challenge was three car garage, best cars in the 90s, choose a house for them to
go into, and a exotic pet, I believe was Veronica's Confusion.
Yeah.
I don't know if that was, that's not like a person, it was an animal, right?
Well, it could be, it could be a person.
I mean, if that's...
That's pretty exotic.
I don't know about that.
Is that legal?
You know, we're dreaming.
Well, like if you're a companion.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
Okay.
So, I asked the machine, because we have to ask the, whatever, the Terminator or Elon,
and it said, these are the three ultimate car garage for the kind of quote unquote,
enthusiast from the 90s.
Wow.
Okay.
Um, I don't think AI is doing like very well.
They're certainly not dreamers.
So these are the answers.
Your weekend Cruiser Canyon Carver was a Miata.
I'm a very classic car.
Not a bad one, I guess.
Great choice.
I am.
And a Miata specifically.
I know.
I am not a Miata fan.
No, no, neither am I.
But a lot of people like them.
Great cars.
That's true.
And then the like track weapon or what it was, an NSX, right?
An, okay.
All right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We have NSX.
Okay.
Good choice.
Good choice.
It's got a good design to it, all right.
And then your kind of analog car was your Supra Turbo, which, yeah.
I think the internet likes Japanese cars.
Yeah.
It does.
It does.
Yeah.
Maybe it's my history or, well, I think during the 90s is when we saw a lot of JDM cars kind
of coming to their own.
Yeah.
It was a big, yeah.
It was a huge time for those cars.
It's true.
Did you guys pick any Japanese cars out of your three?
No.
Yes.
Oh, of course you, yeah.
Of course.
It was bad.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
Do we, we just list them all and then we'll argue, argue over one.
Oh, are we arguing too?
Why, mine are the best.
Why are you?
Yeah.
I say just kind of give us a, give us an overview of your world in the 90s.
Okay.
And we'll go and share each other's worlds.
Okay.
So I'm going to imagine the 90s I'm doing pretty well.
Yeah.
I'm just, I made the right choices.
I probably got into Microsoft early in the 80s or something.
I don't know what I did, but things, things were looking up.
So are you deleting mine?
No.
I'm looking yours up.
I know.
I want to stay on the same page.
You don't know what that is?
You don't know what that is?
I just like to make sure that I'm on the same page.
So when we argue, I'm going to know.
Okay.
I'm a little worried that my podcast partner doesn't know what these are.
No, no, I'm, I'm good.
Okay.
First one, Ferrari F50.
Great car.
Get out of a Ferrari in there.
And that's like basically an F1 car that, and I can take the roof off.
Yeah.
That's important.
Yeah.
The Claren F1 practical, three seats, great doors, and at the time fastest car in the
90s.
This is kind of the world for quite some time until the big one.
Right?
So, and it's British.
So, you know, I don't know if that's a good thing, but keep going.
Ouch.
Ouch.
Now I'm a Claren and those are good.
Yeah.
And the last one was the Rambo Lambo.
Their LMSUV.
Yeah.
That, that I can get behind.
Yeah.
So that's going to be, and then I picked the house in Malibu, which is the famous
infamous, famous Sidley house, basically designed after a spaceship with a huge underground
garage.
Wow.
And then part of this game, which I don't totally understand, but we got, we got here,
was you had to pick an exotic pet.
And so I thought I'd have a pet cheetah.
So we have a cheetah walking around the space station in Malibu.
Yeah, I could have two, because I'm going to have the great Dane and then I'll have
a cheetah.
And they would go in the, in the Lambo when we're driving around.
I mean, that's pretty, that's pretty boss right there.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I wonder, I bet you a cheetah has been inside of a LM002.
Oh, totally.
I do it in a sheik.
Yeah, she could do that.
Oh, for sure.
Yeah.
I was going to pick like a falcon that I could just have, circle around and then he'd come
in.
And then he would come right, land on like, you know, your, your, your roll bar.
Yeah.
Maybe.
Not just my arm.
Oh, just your arm.
You just throw it out.
Out the window.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I like that.
I like that.
And then he would just pat around its neck.
It's actually.
An ascot.
Oh, an ascot.
Cheetah with an ascot.
I feel like he probably has like a diamond collar.
Yeah.
But I'd let him, I don't know.
I wouldn't want to dress him up.
Right.
It'd be pretty cool.
Okay.
Yeah.
I call him Rupert.
Rupert the cheetah.
Rupert the cheetah.
Yeah.
I like that.
And so he'd just pat around the house and then, yeah, yeah.
And I'd let him run on the beach.
So I'd be in Malibu.
Of course.
Go out there early and just let him like, just sit down.
I'd be a heck of a morning.
You know, I'm out for my morning jog and I just see a cheetah run past me.
Yeah.
So that's where I'm at.
So I got a Ferrari, McLaren, a Lambo.
I feel like I got all the.
Living the Malibu life.
Well, I just see the 90s.
You're going to have a Ferrari, McLaren, and I mean, I've got my practical family car.
I've got my McLaren that I can bring friends.
And then I have my roof off Ferrari.
I feel like I went really practical in these choices.
If that's, yeah, I mean, I suppose.
And then I have my spaceship house with a huge underground garage.
Do we know how many, how many cars you can fit in that garage?
I mean, as many as I want, really, to be honest.
Oh, is that right?
Yeah.
Okay.
I feel like, yeah, I think, I mean.
What's what car are you taking to a tennis match on a Sunday morning with a buddy of
yours?
Great question.
Great question.
I feel like I'm going to go.
I mean, I could take either McLaren or Ferrari, but yeah, probably the McLaren.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Really, it just kind of gets you into a perfect mode.
I think so.
I think a perfect car for a perfect game.
I mean, because I'm not taking Rupert.
No.
He's right on the club.
No, no.
So that's not going to work.
He'll scare everyone away.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's so nice though.
Is he?
Yeah.
Yeah, they're like dogs.
Well, and they purr.
Yeah.
Just like a big cat.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Does it like water?
Did we establish that?
Are you just going to take him into the ocean ever?
Who's going to go on the beach?
Yeah.
And he's going to get in the water.
Probably not a big sand cat.
He's running in the sand.
Maybe.
Oh, in the Egyptian...
Yeah, that's true.
You know the sphinx cat?
That's not a cheetah.
True.
True.
What type of cat is that?
Cheetahs are found in Africa, no?
Good job.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So maybe they are accustomed to sand.
Yeah.
I think he'd adapt.
Okay.
I feel like...
Yeah.
I'm thinking he's going to be like a rescue cheetah.
Yeah.
Like he was in movies and then they grow out of it.
Oh yeah.
So he's just kind of like not...
Yeah, he's not really a cheetah cheetah.
He's not like a like a bit of a house cat.
Yeah, just a big house cat.
Chained up outside for too long.
Yeah, yeah.
And now he's living a good life.
Yeah, he's got a whole space station.
Space station to roam around.
So I mean, do you guys even want to go over yours
after listening to my?
No, not really.
I feel like you kind of killed it.
Yeah.
So oh, and I think I would make all the cars probably
white so they don't match.
I was going to ask what colors you
were going to go with.
I think I would.
I think I'd make them.
Was the F-50 offered in white?
I don't know if I've ever seen a white.
I might make it white.
Probably not.
Probably not.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Get Ferrari to do it.
Yeah, yeah.
Now what about the interior?
Would you go white on white or would each of them
have a different color interior?
Because you've got to think about it.
If you've got the dog and the cheetah,
you've got to think about white is going to expose a lot of dirt
and potentially nails.
Yeah, but the lumbar, which is the only one that's going in,
is going to be cheetah powder.
Oh, cheetah pattern on the inside.
It's a little confusing for the cheetah when it gets in.
But then you can just lay in there and nobody can.
Camouflage, though.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You'll need one of those little pop,
in the modern cars, they have a little pop-up notification
that says, please check behind for kids in the back.
You'll make one, please check behind for cheetah in the back.
My dog is faster than your dog.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
And then the other.
Would there be a custom license plate for any of these cars?
I know this might be hard for you to quickly get to.
Well, that'd be the license plate.
My dog is faster than your dog.
Yeah, but that's the life-threat frame.
Right.
Yeah, oh, yeah.
Let's see.
I don't know.
I'd have to think about that a little bit.
Yeah, that's going to tell for you.
For the Lambo, I mean, you'd have to, yeah.
When you think this is the 90s, so the possibilities are way
more than they are today.
Oh, sure.
That's true.
Sure.
Yeah, but I'd know a guy.
If I had this, I'm, yeah.
Yeah, you're probably going to pay and be able to get whatever
you want.
Of course, you're getting a vanity plate.
Come on.
I'm alone in the dealership.
Oh, also.
Yeah.
OK.
So yeah, we can go through your stuff.
You guys want to?
Yeah, Andrew, why don't you go?
You want to?
Oh, I set the stage a little bit.
Yeah, you got to do this.
So I got my daily driver of choice would be a 1998 Lexus
LS400.
But specifically.
We got to talk about your dreams.
Specifically with the Nakamichi sound system.
Have you ever heard of the Nakamichi sound system?
No, but I want to.
Do you not want to change your choices?
Absolutely not.
You're going to have any car you want.
Any car?
Well, in the 90s, I think the LS400, 1998 refresh.
So it came out with the VVTI.
It went from 260 to 290.
But the big thing about it, the Nakamichi sound system
is the greatest sound system I've ever heard in a car.
Compared to modern Burmeisters or Bermesters and Porsches
or Mercedes S-classes, they don't compare to the Nakamichi
sound system.
All right.
You know, when you say Nakamichi, all I think about
is the Nagasaki Tower from, come on, Steve, help me out here.
Oh, Die Hard.
From Die Hard.
Are you familiar?
Have you seen the movie Die Hard, Andrew?
I've never seen Die Hard.
Oh, gosh.
Oh, gosh.
Yeah.
It's a Christmas movie, right?
Yeah, it is a Christmas movie.
I mean, it's a lot of things are doing the holidays.
That's a negative Christmas movie.
But anyway, you have to put it in your queue.
Yeah.
So, OK, since you brought up your, and this will go for Veronica,
too, you're going to tell me your playlist.
Oh, in the LS400.
Yeah.
Or any of your cars, just whatever you're doing.
Yeah.
Oh, you know, there'd be a lot of 40s jazz and big band
swing.
Yeah.
But the thing with that, because I've
That goes with Alexis, OK?
But in that sound system, anything from 50 cent
to Glenn Miller sounds just amazing.
So I would roll around, listen into 50 cent and a lot
of Afro Man.
Do you know Afro Man?
Veronica?
I've heard of Afro Man.
Very nice.
Very nice.
Palmdale Legend.
Is that right?
Oh, that's right.
That's right.
Those are two words you don't really hear.
I think you know, one off.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But you know, if I'm a guy in the 90s driving around an LS400,
I'm probably listening to everything from the 80s.
You know, I got Huey Lewis playing.
Well, no, it would be you.
So, yeah.
OK, what are the other two cars?
So I'd have to have a truck, something I can take off
roading, and it's got to be a 1991 Jeep Grand Wagoneer,
the final year of the Jeep Grand Wagoneer.
I like that for you.
Well, they're not an off road.
It's not going to make it.
It's more of a fire road type off road vehicle, you know.
But the wood paneling.
Beautiful.
It's got 144 horsepower.
Can you believe that?
Absolutely nothing out of a carbureted 360 CI V8.
Yeah.
And my buddies tell me, they don't have the greatest
reputation for reliability.
But they're pretty torquey.
They're pretty torquey.
But you know how to work on these cars.
So you can mod that however you like.
We're way too realistic.
Like, it's all good.
Yeah.
We don't do it where it works.
This isn't a dream car.
He's like, yeah.
You guys, these sound like cars you're going to buy next week.
I guess I could, you know.
I mean, with your list, you definitely could.
Well, my third choice is a little more rare.
They only made 14 of them ever.
OK.
And it's the Porsche 968 Turbo S, which is a very similar car
to the 944 Turbo, just in the 1968.
Well, it's got 928 style headlights.
OK.
OK.
Why did they only make 14?
Nobody wanted them.
Except for Andrew.
The Frank in the late 90s was way too expensive.
You know, the conversion rate of the Franks.
A lot of Porsches got way too expensive.
But this was a homologation car.
OK.
And they made it for the racing series.
All right.
Tell us about your house.
OK.
So the house I found, it was originally,
it started being built in the 80s.
So I might be cheating a little bit.
But it was finished in 1993.
No one's going to like this house.
Yeah.
Yeah.
OK.
But it's called the Kellogg-Doolittle House.
And it's in Joshua Tree right outside of the National Park.
And I don't know.
I was looking up cool looking houses.
And this is really something.
Because it's.
So you're going to be in Joshua Tree.
Yeah.
What's the garage situation like?
This house doesn't even have a garage.
OK.
So you pick the house with no garage
to put your dream cars in.
So it has a concrete pad with an awning over it.
OK.
So they're just going to be outside.
I guess technically it's a Lexus and a Jeep.
A Jeep.
And then the other one, the Porsche,
you might get a little worried about.
I got to say, this house is spectacular.
Yeah.
For those that are into architecture,
I highly recommend taking a look.
We'll add a link to this.
But this house is gorgeous.
The one drawback though, I fear for you.
And maybe this is a good thing for you, Andrew.
It looks like a long walk from where
you park to your front door.
Absolutely.
Are you worried he's not going to make it?
I don't know.
You might need a rest stop.
Maybe to be honest.
A little water break, a water cooler halfway.
Yeah.
It's nice.
I don't know.
You know what?
You might need a golf cart.
Golf cart would be perfect.
Yeah.
We might get you a golf cart.
Well, that's not in your choices.
So I'm sorry.
Can't have it.
Oh, sorry.
Bronnick is getting tacky.
You got to take a quick break.
Sorry about that, everybody.
Sorry.
We're pretty professional here.
Yeah.
Your beanie baby just sell or something?
Oh, damn it.
I just made $100.
Princess Diana.
OK.
I got a quick question.
Do you have any idea on the value of your cars,
if you're buying them today, by your three cars?
For the specification, I think the 960 is a pretty penny.
Probably a million dollar car.
One of 14, that's very rare.
But you could get a grand wagon here for $20,000.
Maybe less.
And then the LS400, probably less than that.
Because I wrote down what mine are going to set me back.
I'm looking at, in case you guys are curious,
it's about $22 million for the F1.
Oh, wow.
It's about $5 to $6 million for the F50
and about $1.5 million for the Rambo Lambo.
So I'm killing it.
I'm going to be out about like $20 million.
I'm getting close to like $30 million
to make the cars come together.
Wow.
And I didn't know you could make such money
of being a car dealership owner.
Well, no.
I mean, I got a lot of them, I guess.
Yeah.
Multiple.
OK.
Not to mention, I mean, if you're in the market
for a rescue cheetah.
Yeah, that's true.
That's true.
They do have to know people and be in certain circles.
I think so.
I feel like they're going to do a background check and check
some finances.
Do you like, can you feed this thing?
Yeah.
Yeah, what are you feeding this thing?
I guess you can't go to Pet Smart.
I would.
Yeah, I probably just meat.
Just any meat.
I feel like, yeah.
And yeah, whatever it can catch.
Yeah.
Whatever you can catch.
Yeah.
None of whatever it can catch.
It can catch.
I'm going to let them out in the backyard.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Squirrels, rabbits, and.
Neighbors, dogs.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
OK.
Good to know.
I don't think that's going to be my biggest issue when
I have these kind of cars I have to look at in the house.
I think, yeah.
Apparently, a set of tires for my SUV
can cost up to $30,000.
Wow.
Those are, yeah, those are unique tires.
Yeah.
I think only Pirelli makes them.
Yeah.
So for a set of tires, I can buy two of my cars.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But no garage.
OK, so no garage.
Bit of an awning.
I'm looking at $30 million to get my garage together
and my Cheetah feeding costs.
Yeah.
Where are you at, Bronca?
God, that's, I mean, it's a lot.
You want the horses for, I mean, the horses.
Do you want the cars first or the, where, let me set you up
with where I'm living.
Just take me through the dream.
Yeah, I'm going to give you, well.
That's 90s version of you.
I mean, you're really going to hate this,
but we're going to be neighbors.
OK.
And.
Oh, we're both in Malibu?
Yeah, we're going to both be in Malibu.
I'm going to be in a John Lautner home.
Oh, OK.
In Malibu.
And I'll be right on the beach.
So I'm going to make sure that any of my pets
don't get anywhere near your Cheetah.
That's OK.
Yeah.
Because I'm going to have a slow pet.
Oh.
I'm going to have a capybara.
Oh, OK.
Those are delicious for Cheetahs.
And I'm going to keep eyes on your Cheetah.
Yeah, but don't they live in the water?
They do live in the water.
I don't think the report's going in there.
Yeah.
But when it comes out, I've got to just really be careful.
I think it'll be all right.
OK.
All right.
So you're going to have a water area for your capybara?
Yeah, I might.
I don't know if it can go in salt water.
I think it might have its own capybara.
And it's supposed to be like a water pig?
It's a rodent, I believe.
OK.
But they're just so cute.
This is your exotic choice?
This is my choice.
Yeah.
It's not either large.
They're very big.
They're like the size of a dog.
They're very sweet.
With their little tiny ears.
Is this based on your Instagram research?
It is based on Instagram.
It's also based on just as a child going to the zoo
and always seeing a capybara and thinking.
OK, I was going to ask.
You've seen a capybara.
Oh, sure.
I thought they were only on the internet.
No, they're real life animals.
Wow.
Wow.
That's pretty easy.
OK.
Does it come inside?
Does it come?
Sure, why not?
I think you can house train them.
Yeah.
They seem courteous.
Yeah, they seem courteous.
Yeah.
You can definitely do that.
OK.
I might also have a tape here.
OK.
Also, yeah.
Yeah.
OK.
Do you know what a tape here is?
It's a long nose.
It does have a long nose.
It's a hooved animal that has a long nose that kind of
resembles a bit of an elephant.
Is that like a zebra?
It has a zebra pattern.
That's right.
Some of them do.
I think it's more like an anteater.
No.
Well.
Do you think of something else?
I know you're thinking of something like that.
Yeah.
You're thinking of a kodamunde.
Oh, wow.
I have no idea what that is.
Yeah, same.
South American.
But anyway.
OK.
Yeah.
I went down the list of exotic pets.
Wow.
You really went deep.
Sorry.
And the house is called the Levy Residence, if anybody
is interested.
OK.
So my cars.
Yeah.
My, uh, it's a great question.
If I don't have one, I'll probably just build one
because I can.
I believe you guys looked at houses without garages.
I specifically chose not with that one.
OK.
Is it like, if you wanted it outside?
I want to look at them, you know?
Yeah, I want to look at them.
That's bold.
OK.
How are you going to look at them?
The distance from where you park to where the home is,
it's quite long.
You've ever been to like Fisherman's Wharf in San
Francisco?
They got those little things that you look through.
The eyeglass things you put a quarter in.
And you can see the Golden Gate Bridge.
That's going to be me with my cars every morning.
Oh.
OK.
He's got an answer for anything, which is good.
Wow.
Which is good.
I'm impressed.
Yeah.
All right.
I don't have an answer for everything.
Yeah.
OK.
I don't know if I have a garage.
But if I don't, I'm going to design one.
OK.
I'm going to just call Lautner's protégés
as he's since passed on and figure that one out.
My cars are kind of predictable, I feel like,
since our last conversation.
But my daily is going to be a 1994 Lancia Delta HF
Integral Evolutione.
Do we have to know how to say our cars?
God.
Do we have to?
I think we got it.
Yeah.
Did we get it?
Yeah.
We heard it.
OK.
And this car, I'm going to chit, there were multiple.
Do we know someone that has one?
Do we know somebody?
Is any in our little car group?
I don't know.
Lancia Delta?
The yellow one?
Who's is it?
Very nice.
Oh.
OK.
Never mind.
No, tell me.
No, no, because then you're going to hunt him down.
I will hunt him down.
The yellow, actually, I really love,
because the yellow has that, not the dash,
but the gauges are also in yellow.
And the seats are black with the yellow stitching,
which is so beautiful.
Really nice.
I don't know if I could rock yellow.
I'd probably go with the blue version, which, which.
Oh, we got notes.
Well, we always have notes, because it's
important to know what's going on.
And for those of you that don't know what we're talking about,
this, if you remember, Sega, the Rally Championship in 94,
it was an arcade game.
And this car was an option, as well as the Toyota Celica.
Ah, OK.
So just to give a little point of reference.
Big gamer in the 90s?
No, not me.
No.
But for those that were, Andrew?
I wasn't alive.
Oh, right.
That's right.
Why did you choose it then?
The launch out?
Yeah.
I just think it's a beautiful car.
And again, I clearly seem to like a rally car.
That's right.
It's very strange.
I didn't know this about myself.
You're trying to escape?
I think that's it.
Yeah.
I just needed to find a dirt road.
Is it street legal?
Can you get a lawns here over here?
I think you can.
OK.
Seems like it.
OK.
All right.
What are the other two?
My other two are going to be my truck, this practical.
Well, OK, fine.
I'll do that next.
Is a 1990 Mercedes-Benz G-Wagon Wolf?
OK.
I just love a G-Wagon.
So Kardashian.
I know.
I just love a G-Wagon.
This is an early G-Wagon, so not a Kardashian interior.
No.
This is a very basic military interior.
That's right.
This is the military version.
And what I like about it is I can put the capybara in.
I can put the tape here in.
I don't have to worry about it.
I can hose that baby down.
Are they good car animals?
Is he going to like that?
Well, they're going to be trained.
Yeah, I'm going to have a trainer that works with them.
OK.
I don't want to ruin your dreams.
Yeah, don't ruin my dream.
OK.
And I'd probably do this in black.
Yeah.
You know, black on black.
Because you know how I like to murder it up.
Yes.
Yes.
But I want them to feel protected and also hot.
Yes.
And then the Wild Cards in 1990, Kuntosh.
Oh.
White on white.
Reference would be Wolf of Wall Street.
Yeah.
Like a lot of wolves.
Yeah, a lot of wolves.
You're wolfing a lot.
A lot of wolves.
OK.
OK.
Can I just say a little quip about that
that I wasn't aware of?
You're out of time.
Oh.
All right.
No, no, go ahead.
Go ahead.
I didn't realize this.
And Andrew, maybe you can speak to this.
OK.
I read that for you to reverse this vehicle,
you have to practically be half of the outside of the car.
You have to look out the back.
That's right.
Well, you have to actually sit on the sill.
That's right.
Yeah, you put your body halfway out.
Yeah.
To reverse that thing, because you can't see shit.
It's a very impractical vehicle.
It's really just a design specimen.
A statement.
It's a statement.
It's a statement.
It's a statement.
Right.
So we won't drive that very often.
You'd be like, I'm never going backwards.
That's right.
I'm never going backwards.
That'll probably be my license plate cover.
Yeah.
Plate frame.
Yeah.
OK.
All right.
Wow.
Those are interesting choices.
OK.
And also, no garage.
We're not sure.
We're not sure.
But probably.
We'll find.
We'll figure it out.
OK.
What's your Cappy Barra's name?
Oh, God.
What is my Cappy Barra's name?
You can think on it.
And then I'm going to need your playlist for your car.
My Cappy Barra's name.
It's probably going to be Charlie.
Oh, OK.
Yeah.
Good Cappy Barra.
Yeah.
Charlie.
Yeah.
The tapir might be something like a sally.
Oh, OK.
Isn't that closer to a horse?
Well, yes.
Because it is hooved.
And that's going to go in your car?
Well, I'll get a small.
I'll get a miniature.
I'll breed for a miniature version of a tapir.
Now, these things are like the size of a pig.
No, I think they're bigger than that.
But these days, you know, science.
Hashtag science.
You can get a small one.
And I'm going to have so much money.
You're going to genetically shrink down a tapir.
That's right.
That's right.
Sounds like Malibu to me.
Let's not forget that the G-Wagon's
going to be able to hold this.
I mean, it was a military vehicle.
So I'm going to be able to carry this sweet, sally tapir
in the back.
Oh, fun fact about tapirs.
They can project their urine.
Oh, great.
Very cool.
Occasionally spring it backwards up to 10 feet.
Backwards.
Yeah.
Backwards.
Wow.
That's impressive.
Yeah.
I won't be going backwards.
But the tapir.
Yeah, it's OK.
So I'll clean up nicely in the G-Wagon.
Well, it'll be out the back.
So I won't.
Nobody will worry about it.
Oh, there you go.
Who knew?
OK.
All right.
Who is winning cars and coffee?
What are you taking?
Well, I mean, I'm going to have to probably bring the Kuntosh,
but it's going to have to be trailer.
You're not going to drive it?
No, I would never drive it.
No?
No.
You're going to want to your cars?
You're not driving?
So much fear to drive that thing.
Yeah, but you're doing great.
No power steering.
No assistance to drive this thing.
Have you driven?
Have either of you driven a Kuntosh?
No.
But it can't be that bad.
You can figure it out.
Yeah, I feel like.
Yeah, you got to, I think, yeah.
What about the gearbox, Andrew?
The fact that the gearbox is ahead of the engine,
what does that do for?
Oh, that's probably the, yeah.
I wouldn't worry about that.
But why is that an important thing?
Well, that's just because it's a mid-engine car.
So the 308 is the same way with the transmission
in the front of the engine, right?
Didn't they?
Or is it transverse?
It's transverse in that way that could fit the,
just made it easier to fit the engine in, I think.
Yeah, yeah.
But it doesn't change the drivability of the car.
I think the main thing with the Kuntosh would be visibility.
Yeah, visibility.
I mean, look how they drove on a cannonball run.
You could do that.
Yeah, it's a great movie.
Have you seen Cannonball Run, Andrew?
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
Great movie.
And I like two more than one.
I like Cannonball One, too.
Oh, wow, you went deep.
Yeah, I really like the second one.
Wow.
Great movie.
But at no point did you think Top Gun,
but you watched Cannonball Run.
Like, when you're going through the choices,
yeah.
I've just always just flicked past Top Gun.
Smoky in the Bandit?
I've seen that.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
OK.
All right.
Interesting.
Wow.
OK.
And basically any car movie you've probably seen.
I haven't seen Days of Thunder.
Oh, my gosh.
Wow.
OK.
Gone in two seconds?
Well, let me ask you guys this.
What's the best car movie of the 90s?
Ooh.
Yeah.
Well?
Probably Cannonball Run.
That wasn't the 90s.
That's the second one.
Oh, the second one, maybe.
Wasn't?
Was it?
They're both in the 80s?
No.
They couldn't have.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I mean, I'm saying it very confidently,
but we can ask the machine.
Yeah, let's ask the machine.
OK.
Oh, well, here's one you have to see.
Ronan.
Ronan.
Yeah.
I have not seen Ronan.
I haven't seen Ronan.
You haven't seen Ronan?
No.
What's that about?
Goodness.
Was it Robert De Niro?
They have amazing cars.
OK, we're getting way out of it.
OK.
OK, so there.
Well, Days of Thunder was also in the 90s.
Days of Thunder?
Yeah.
The Rock, remember that?
Alcatraz.
Features the Yellow Ferrari.
I have seen Thelma and Louise.
I wouldn't call that a car movie.
That is just a car in the movie.
Just that that was the catalyst for the story to take place.
Yeah.
I don't think Ronan is a car movie.
I was I didn't.
I mean, I haven't seen it, so I can't speak to that.
OK.
So who's winning cars and coffee, guys?
I mean, Steve.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What are you bringing?
I could bring any of those in and win.
Yeah, it doesn't matter.
People are just going to surround.
Yeah.
If I rolled up in the LS 400, I would park
on the other side of the parking lot.
You wouldn't be allowed to.
Yeah, you were we wouldn't let you in.
If you were one or two people come up,
there would be like, cool.
There's no chance.
9, 6, 8.
Yeah.
There would be like five guys.
There would be like.
What car are you taking to dinner?
Oh, to dinner?
That's the last meal of the day.
Well, as I say, I'm not going to be traveling in the Countach
often.
So what is it for?
Is it just a look at?
It's a design.
It's a beautiful car.
I love the design of it.
It's been something that I've fancied since a child.
OK.
It's just a hot vehicle.
In the 90 Countach, you know?
So it's got the body kit on it.
It's the 25 year.
The Wolf of Wall Street one.
Wolf of Wall Street one, yeah.
Also designed by Marcelo Gandini,
who designed the Ferrari Dino 78 from the last conversation
that we had that you thought I chose the wrong Ferrari.
Dino.
Yes.
So but what am I taking to dinner?
I'm probably going to take the Lancia.
OK.
OK.
Did you look up the values to buy all your cars?
No, I didn't.
OK.
Ask the machine real quick.
All right.
See you, dude.
Andrew, what are you taking?
Yeah, what are you taking to dinner, Andrew?
Probably the LS 400.
I got nothing to say about that.
There's just no interesting thing about it.
No.
OK.
Because sometimes you just don't want to think about driving.
And that's what that car is, you know?
OK.
Are you going to modify any of your cars?
The Jeep Grand Wagoneer would have Dana 60
axles swapped in from a heavy duty truck.
And it'd have a GM 6-liter V8 in it.
And I call it a 60-60 build.
Because it's 6-0 and then Dana 60s.
Obviously.
OK.
So it would make everything wrong about the Grand Wagoneer
perfectly modern.
Because you know, modern V8, modern axles, modern drive
train, modern brakes.
All right, so we got a dinner car, cars and copy car.
Yeah.
Road trip car.
Which one are you taking?
I mean, I hate a road trip.
But yeah, I can't do a road trip.
No road trips?
No.
You haven't had the right car.
We skipped a great podcast part.
What's the last road trip you went on?
Really?
Oh, I was livid after we left Vegas.
We drove to Utah.
That's a rough one.
Yeah.
Eight hours straight.
Hated it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
What about like up the coast to like Pebble Beach?
Up the coast is beautiful, but it's not practical.
If you're trying to get somewhere in a short amount of time,
you're not taking the one.
You just fly?
No.
You're getting on a freeway.
And there's nothing worse than driving long distance
on a freeway.
Especially the five freeway.
Right?
The five is pretty bad.
We are struggling here.
OK, it's a no road trip.
OK, all right.
I'm not doing a road trip.
You're not even going to do it.
Not in this country.
You have the right cars to not do a road trip.
I'll drive up the boot of Italy any day.
She's pointing at us very.
You can't see it on a podcast, but we're getting pointed at.
I'll drive to Italy.
Yeah.
OK, so you're not taking any of your cars on a road trip.
You don't even do road trips.
I don't even do road trips.
OK, road trip.
I'm taking the Grand Wagon here to every national park
in a zigzag up and down all the way across the United States.
But I've already done that.
I mean, road trip, I'm probably going to take the McLaren.
So I got like two C's back there.
So Rupert and Steve can sit back there.
Where's all your shit going to go?
In front of Rupert and Steve.
It has custom little luggage areas.
Oh, does it?
Does it come with the luggage?
Oh, fancy.
Yeah, it's amazing you get for 25 mil.
Wow.
Yeah.
Who knew?
Yeah, three seats.
It's a family car.
Yeah.
How many did you have?
Do you have the number of how many they made of the McLaren?
That's important.
You know, not very many.
Is it a comfortable car to drive long distance?
Do you think?
It's got to be.
It's got to be.
Why do you say that?
It's perfect.
The car is perfect.
Yeah, I think how important is comfort?
Well, when you're driving long distance, I think it is.
I feel like comfort gets very close to just giving up.
Oh, I see.
You're like, I don't want to feel anything.
I want to be comfortable.
Right.
Suddenly, it's just like, OK, just stay home.
Just don't go on road.
That's why.
This answers so many questions for me about who you are.
Steve.
Yeah.
Yeah, I think that's the key part.
OK, so road trip car, because you're not even doing it.
OK, if I have to pick one, I'm going to pick the Lancia
once again.
Because I feel like the Lancia is going
to be the most fun car to drive.
Even just for a one of a kind experience,
a Countach and drive it to like Ohio, you're like, no.
From Malibu to Ohio, you're still not good.
I got to be honest.
No.
No reversing.
OK.
I'll consider it.
I'll consider it.
I won't drive the Countach.
This is the most miserable group of three car garages
I've ever heard of.
Well, hold on.
We're allowed to choose what we like.
This peer pressure.
No, I'm just saying, but you're not
doing anything with the car.
The Countach is going to be an art exhibit.
It's a collector's item that I'm going to show at Cars and Coffee,
put it in the Palisades Motor Classic next year
to win Best of Class.
And all the kids are going to run up and be like,
brr, brr, brr, what's it like to drive?
And you're like, eh.
I'm going to be like, well, you'll
have to talk to John, who drives it for me, actually.
Oh, OK.
He also watches my Cap-A-Bara.
He does.
He feeds the Cap-A-Bara and massages my tape here.
OK.
Interesting.
All right.
Out of your three cars, let's, you know,
little two on the nose, fire comes.
You grab one, which you take.
9-6-8, because it's worth the most.
OK.
Mm.
I guess I'm getting the Countach out.
But you can't drive it.
Well.
What if you have to reverse out of the fire?
You know, like you're used to disasters?
You cannot drive forward out of the fire.
You have to reverse out.
I have a fix for this.
It's always going to be on a flatbed.
And I'm going to have to learn how to drive a flatbed.
So I'm also going to have a flatbed.
That's going to be around this.
Yeah.
OK.
OK.
Will you?
What are you taking?
What are you escaping with?
I'm taking McLaren.
The McLaren, right.
Same.
It's worth the most.
Not only that, but it's got three seats.
You love the three seats.
I just, I love that idea.
I love that idea.
Three usable seats, because the way they,
because you're in that middle, and then they're on the side
of your, or right here.
And their feet are actually at your hips.
Yeah, their feet are next to your hips.
I didn't know that.
Yeah.
Are you into feet?
Generally?
In an F1?
McLaren?
I mean, no.
But like, feel like that's an added bonus, maybe.
Yeah.
OK.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right.
Shoes on in the F1.
Shoes on in the F1.
OK.
You're not barefoot.
All right.
Although it's a fire.
You get out.
That's true.
You got to do what you got to do.
Also, the cheetah and the dog are going to not be wearing
shoes, hopefully.
Cheetah's going to be gone.
They see fire.
Oh, yeah.
They're out.
Yeah, he's making it.
Yeah.
I mean, he's just like any other Tuesday for him.
Yeah, he's going to be on the beach.
He's like on the front of the bar.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
OK.
OK.
All right.
Do you guys have any other questions
for these three cars?
Oh, what animal do you think I would have
with my three vehicles?
You have a Labrador.
No, a Golden Retriever.
I do a Golden Retriever.
A Golden.
All right.
Is that as exotic as you wanted to go though, Andrew?
Look at this car selection.
It's very exotic.
It's true.
And yeah.
Oh, I just, you know, you got to go.
He's driving his.
I am driving.
I'm driving him every day.
You got like a bookstop, like a paperweight.
Here's the thing.
I think that if one is a collector,
a collector can do what they want with their collection.
Some things are going to be used,
and some are just going to be placed on a shelf
and enjoyed from a visual standpoint.
All right.
It's kind of like having a real famous painting,
you know, a Rembrandt or something.
I guess you can't do.
What do you do with a Rembrandt?
Well, you can't drive it.
That's for sure.
You just look at it.
If you had a Rembrandt, would you let other people see it?
I let people touch it.
Oh, you let people touch it?
Sure.
Why not?
Because you get oil all over your.
You'd ruin the paint.
With gloves.
There you go.
Yeah.
There you go.
OK.
Interesting.
Yeah.
But what exotic animal would you go with, Andrew, if you didn't?
Oh, the Gordon Retriever.
But I OK, an exotic animal.
So you're in Josh's tree.
It's got to be like, because it can't be a Canadian moose.
Well, that wouldn't fit in the car.
Oh, yeah.
It doesn't fit in the car.
That's true.
Also, you got to think about, right, the Joshua Tree situation.
No, I'd have a Highland cow.
Do you guys know the Highland cow?
Yes, it's all horse.
Long hair cow.
Oh.
Yeah.
Yeah, with huge horns.
It'd be hot.
Can you consider that an exotic animal?
It can be.
I guess.
Yeah, yeah.
What?
Of course.
We don't have it here, so therefore it's exotic.
I think they are here, so it's not very exotic.
And you're absolutely right.
That's cruel having them in Joshua Tree, isn't it?
Thank you.
Yeah, that's absolutely right.
If we eat it, it's not exotic, right?
Yeah.
Now we're eating each other's animals?
No, I'm just saying, in general,
you don't eat exotic animals.
Well, people kill them, and they do eat them, actually.
You have a head on the wall.
I do.
I do have an elk on my wall.
OK.
Did you shoot that elk?
I did not.
Good.
Yeah, it's been dead for 20 years, probably.
OK.
Yeah, it wasn't recent.
Yeah.
OK.
Natural causes.
Oh, it was shot.
Oh.
It was shot.
OK.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Will you give up your current cars for these?
I hate this question.
Yes.
Yeah, yeah, an heartbeat.
Yeah, heartbeat.
I'm only giving up the fiat.
I can't give up the scout.
No.
It was my father's, once again.
Not for that coontosh?
No, not for the coontosh.
I think your dad would approve.
No.
I think your dad would be like too.
My dad would approve if it was a Ferrari.
He wasn't much of a Lamborghini guy.
I like him more and more.
Is this Skip a Generation?
Yeah, it does.
It does.
Skip's a generation.
OK, all right.
All right.
What was his favorite Ferrari?
It's a great question.
You know what?
Are we moving on to Father's Day?
I'm trying to segue gently into ending this podcast.
People can't see this, but I'm going to show it to the two
of you.
I have this.
Oh, this is helpful on podcasts.
This catalog.
Let's bring a magazine.
Oh, my god.
Pin and Ferrena Magazine from Italy that my dad had.
When he had a factory, he also had a factory.
He did have a factory.
Not for cars, leather goods.
But in his, he was a designer.
In his office growing up in the 80s and the 90s,
he had a lot of scale model cars.
And the majority of them were Ferraris.
I still have a few of them.
And I believe that his favorite car was either a Testerosa
or an F40.
OK.
So I would.
They'll be good choices.
Yeah, I would probably get him one of those.
OK.
If he was still with us.
What is that, a Pin and Ferrena X?
For our listeners, if you want to look up a Pin and Ferrena
X, very cool concept car.
Three wheels.
No four wheels.
It looks like a fish.
There's a four wheel back in the tail.
Oh, yeah.
And that's why it's called an X.
That's why it's called an X.
Oh, that's why it's called an X.
No one can see this.
This is great.
This is the one I'm looking at.
It's on the look it up.
Look it up.
Type it into Google.
This is great.
We're going to add these on the Instagram.
I'll add it.
So all right, to end the podcast,
because Father's Day is coming up this weekend.
And this weekend.
So we said that if they're hearing this podcast before Father's
Day, we'll see.
They will.
You suggest getting your father a F40.
Or a Testerosa.
Or a Testerosa.
Yeah.
What would you get your dad?
I would get my dad a Gullwing Mercedes.
Yeah, Gullwing Mercedes.
Yeah, of course.
I would get my dad.
It would probably have to be English.
So he's going to want something like a little British.
But I would get him an old Aston.
But he'd be like, that's too fancy.
We're Northerners.
We're not like that.
So probably because he grew up in your coventry
where they made Jags.
So it would have to be like an old, not the E-type.
An XJ6L, something like that.
No, it would be older than that.
Like the ones that they used to have the guys that did the great
train robbery drove a Jag.
Oh, wow.
They always like the Jags that did the fastest.
So that was the getaway driver car.
So it would be like an old Jag.
There's the sedan.
Yeah.
So that's what you would like.
Were both your father's car guys?
Big time.
Are they still with us?
Yes.
OK.
So Andrew's the only one with a father still with us.
What are name one or two cars that you remember your dad had
either when you were alive or not that he either spoke about
or saw photos of and were close to his heart?
Well, let him own.
His first car was actually a 1963 Jeep Wagon-Ear.
Yeah.
But then when I was born, he had a 1987.
Isn't this one of them?
No, that's a customer's car.
OK.
OK.
So he actually still has the cars that he had for years.
Yeah.
Because he bought the Porsche 356 that we have in 1980.
Oh, wow.
And I learned how to drive stick in that car.
Cool.
And then the 912 he bought in 1990 as a spare motor for the 356.
And then when I was in high school, we restored that.
So it's just like he's never actually gotten rid of his cars.
He's just had them.
That's awesome.
My mom, shout out my mom for never making him get rid of them.
Yeah.
Good mom.
And are they still in the Mojave Desert?
Well, they're in Simi Valley right now.
Oh, nice.
OK.
Who taught you how to drive?
My dad.
Yeah.
Very nice.
My dad taught me how to drive as well.
I just, he took me out in the middle of the desert in the 356.
Damn.
And just said, do it.
And I remember I was almost crying.
Oh, yeah, same.
I just went to like drivers at high school.
Your parents didn't teach you how to drive?
What's that about?
I don't know.
I don't know.
Yeah.
So did you drive automatic first?
Yeah.
OK.
Yeah.
So did you teach yourself how to drive manual?
I did.
Very cool.
Yeah.
Not well.
Yeah.
But yeah.
Yeah.
I blew up my first carman gear.
Wow.
This is a pattern for you.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Very hard on my cars.
Right.
Yeah, apparently.
You know how to drive a stick, though.
Now I do.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What was your first manual vehicle?
The car that I learned how to drive on was a 635 CSI.
Wow.
Yeah.
It's a nice car.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's very nice.
The Palisades.
Oh, fair.
Well, we were in Brentwood at that point.
But yes.
Oh, just Brentwood.
Me and the streets of Brentwood.
Straight out of Brentwood, as I say.
Yeah.
What car did you take your drive places in?
That one.
Failed three times.
Yeah.
Oh, wow.
OK.
Yeah.
Do you remember why you failed?
Oh, of course.
Drunk?
No.
One time, I downshifted and just ruined the clutch.
Money shifted it.
Yeah, exactly.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I was just so nervous.
During the driver's test?
Yeah, because my dad taught me how to downshift.
He would never allow me to go into neutral.
So if I was coming to a stop, I was downshifting.
You were?
OK.
Like, it was not allowed.
I had to learn how to slow down a car with the engine,
not the brake.
He was like, you're preserving my brake pads.
Yeah.
I'm last.
Yeah.
But you're destroying my clutch.
But I'm going to destroy the clutch.
That's right.
That's right.
OK.
OK.
Clearly, money was no object in Brentwood.
Well, when you're a factory owner,
it's like you're doing all right.
So yeah, that, I think, the second time,
I probably stalled.
And then, I think, actually, the third time I passed.
OK.
But I feel like I failed three times.
It's a challenge, because taking your driver's test
in a manual car, you just raise the ability to fail.
Oh, 100%.
Because you can stall.
I took mine in an automatic Passat.
I didn't even think during the driving test.
I took mine in my mom's car, which
was an automatic station wagon, Chrysler-Liberin.
Wow.
Wagon.
Town and country.
You had a town and country-Liberin wagon growing up.
Yeah.
Wood panels.
Nice.
Very kind of like National Boondi-Nation.
Oh, I'd kill for one of those now.
Wow.
So I failed the first time.
What do you remember why?
I didn't stop all the way to make a right on red.
Wow.
California stop.
Oh, were you here in California?
Yeah.
OK.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I literally barely made it out of the damage.
The drive was the yeah.
It was already over.
Yeah.
And then I took the second time.
So my dad, when I grew up, had the Trans Am.
Ooh, cool.
So he had the Trans Am smoking the band.
Automatic.
Hell yeah.
Yeah, automatic.
OK.
Took the driver's test in that.
Teetops off.
Driver's test was the driver's test guy was probably like,
this is the best.
Coolest.
Woman got in and she was like, this car is awesome.
Hell yeah.
And she was literally like, I'm just passing you.
That's amazing.
So she was like, go ahead and go.
I want to see what this thing could.
That is awesome.
Very, very cool.
Wow.
It was yeah.
That's pretty rad.
And then I'm seeing to lose my license a few times.
Wow.
Really?
Ever get your license?
Spend it?
Anything?
No.
Oh, OK.
Andrew?
I've never even gotten a speeding ticket.
What?
Good for you.
Radar detectors.
Oh, jeez.
Wow.
I think though, living on like PCH, I can just yeah.
You got to open it up.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I also drive Alexis today.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm not really going fast.
No, you're dead.
Or the wagon here.
You're not even driving your car.
I'm not even driving.
It's kind of flat.
Yeah, I'm good.
OK.
All right.
Did we get through everything?
I think so.
I mean, yeah.
Who do we think has the best garage?
Well, me, clearly.
Oh, it's me.
Yeah?
No, it's me.
It's got to be me.
I think that, Steve, your garage is a little like,
it's very luxurious.
Yeah.
You know?
Why are we here?
Like, what are we going to party in?
The Rambo Lambo.
Oh, right, the Rambo Lambo.
That's true.
That's true.
See, I just wouldn't feel out of place pulling up
to the Rambo Lambo in my grand wagon here.
You know?
They're not on the same level.
I would make you feel out of place.
But there's still a presence.
I wouldn't park next to it with my grand.
I mean, I had a friend in high school that had a wagon here,
and I thought it was pretty sick.
Nice.
You know?
Nice.
We used to hot box that thing all the time.
Well, it's just like, there's so much space.
Yeah.
It's got that 60s design.
OK.
I was actually driven home from the hospital
on a grand wagon here.
Wow.
I just feel like I'm going to encourage,
when we do this again in some other configuration,
it's going to encourage you guys to dream a little bit more.
Oh, I thought we were dreaming pretty well.
This is my dream.
You picked a car you would draw.
Well, that's my choice.
I chose a collector.
Let me ask you something.
You think that these gentlemen and ladies
who have garages of hundreds of cars
get to drive them on the regs?
They're collecting.
No, I know.
But we're not those people.
Not yet.
I only have three cars.
Oh, I see.
Yeah.
I see.
Like, if you had a one-of-a-kind car,
wouldn't you take it out all the time?
Yeah.
Yeah.
No.
No.
No.
You would just, yeah.
Yeah.
OK.
But I would look at it all the time.
I'd sit in it.
Do you believe in saving your car for the next person?
Well, I have no children, so no.
OK.
No, but like the next owner.
Oh, I see.
Handing it down to the next gen.
I mean, last, I mean, the last one burned.
I'm a custodian of the vehicles I own.
Oh, OK.
The last one burned to the ground.
Yeah.
That's two that we know of.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't want someone to get the Ferrari and be like, oh,
there's a little life left from that.
Yeah.
I respect that.
That's actually really good.
I just want to put a bunch of miles on it and then, yeah.
And then burn it to the ground.
Wow.
I mean, I'm not going to burn it to the ground, but yeah.
Use it.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Huh.
Feel like that's what they're designed for.
Yeah.
Like this whole, OK.
Andrew, would you drive the Countache?
With any car, my take is drive everything to the limit.
Really?
Because like Ferruccio, Lamborghini, would be pissed.
Your first name basis.
At this.
Yeah, they're friends.
He would be quite cross.
Would he?
Yeah.
Not driving the car.
Let me ask you something for real.
You think the people, for realsies,
you think that the people that own Countaches
are driving those things on a regular basis.
It's all the time.
Matt Faradrove is alive.
Yeah.
Is that true?
Yeah.
The thing is, these cars were built to run.
Yeah.
And if you don't wring out that Italian bowl of a V12,
it's going to have carbon buildup.
The carburetor's going to get gummed up.
You got to move them and use them.
So any car, I would just, if I had a replica Wright
flyer from 1903, I'd be firing it up.
Is that a wagon, like the little wagons you pull?
No, it's the first airplane.
Oh, there we go.
There we go.
There we go.
Oh, that's funny.
We almost went and now we're in an airplane.
Radio flyer, Wright flyer.
Yes.
By the way, you saw the plane that we talked about.
I did.
I happened to get breakfast at the small airport out
in the hobby desert.
You happen to get breakfast at the airport, as you do.
We were riding our dirt bikes out in the desert,
and we were like, this is the closest place for miles.
How many were in the dirt bike group?
Three of us.
But there was an extra 300 parked on the tarmac.
Yeah, that's wild.
Not only that, while we were eating,
the guy walks out to the plane because we realized
he had actually just finished eating.
And he just walks out into his plane
and does 30 minutes of acrobatics.
And I'm like, what?
And I'm like, he just had.
Did you get video of that?
I did.
But he was from inside of the restaurant, so it's not great.
That's OK.
But he was just doing an aerobatic.
Do you think he knew?
I just saw him eat biscuits and gravy.
He just ate a plate of biscuits and gravy.
He's a professional.
And now he's doing aerobatics.
Yeah.
I could never.
One day you will.
Maybe.
Maybe.
So we got a pilot that can't fly in a full stomach.
You don't drive your Lamborghini.
We are all different people.
And you burn up cars.
Yeah, yeah.
I just drive them till the wheels come up, as they say.
Yeah.
Is there, OK, is there any special car
that you would just drive and not worry about?
Any in the world?
Yeah.
Like if you had all rare stuff, would you just not drive them?
See, this is the thing you need to know about me.
What would it take to get you to drive that Countach every day
for a month?
Every day for a month.
Yeah.
Well, if I'm a trillionaire.
Sure.
Whatever.
Then I think.
Money is no object.
Money is no object.
Then yes, I would drive it.
So it's just a money thing.
Slowly.
It's just a money thing.
I think that it's the fear of fucking it up.
I think I'm the kind of person that
wants things to be perfect and well preserved,
especially if they are from the factory.
I don't want it to get ruined.
And if you have something that's that special and that limited,
then the fear of it getting broken, shipped,
scratched, having to fix something,
even if money is no object, it just, now you've,
it's not as it was.
It's not, it's now been ruined.
Counterpoint.
Go.
And we'll end on that.
Go.
If a car isn't driven, isn't it ruining the car?
Because it's not using it as it should.
A car was built to be driven.
And if it's just sitting there, then it's in a way rotting.
Yeah.
And a car probably doesn't want to rot.
I just think of, you know, if you own something,
use it and then just whatever happens happens.
You know?
This is my life lesson, Andrew.
And maybe spending more time with you will help me get there.
No.
I think it's just so moral of the story is by a car from Veronica,
because it hasn't been used.
That's it.
That's the moral of the story right there.
I would buy a car from you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I actually have.
I have the dealership you want to come shop with.
Yeah.
Yeah.
OK.
On that note, anything else?
No. Happy Father's Day to you, your father, Andrew.
Shout out Ken Burns.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Is he going to come on the pod?
I'm lining up stories.
I'm having him get his stories all organized.
This is up to your guys.
Can we just chat?
We can just.
He was a spy plane engineer in the 90s.
Spy plane engineer.
You know, the Skunk Works, Lock and Martin,
all the black projects.
Yeah.
He had his hand in most of them.
Interesting.
Which one?
Left or right?
Side to side.
Oh, the.
I think.
Did we go over it?
Did we go over it?
For the listeners.
No, it's OK.
It doesn't matter.
I think we'll end on that.
And good to see both of you.
Happy Early Father's Day.
And I'll see you guys next week.
All right.
We'll see you next week.
Very nice.
From Broom Broom.
Bye.
About this episode
Palisades Motor Classic weekend chatter and local Malibu driving enforcement set the stage for a bigger theme: building a 90s “ultimate garage” that matches the house. The conversation bounces through 90s nostalgia, then gets specific on car-era ideas—pop-up headlights, homologation, and why 90s cars feel reliable. From dream lineups (Miata, NSX, Supra, F50, McLaren F1) to real-world garage logistics (no garage in Joshua Tree, $30M budgets, rare-car fears), they end up debating use vs display and what it takes to drive the Countach.
Happy Father's Day! This week we take you back to the 90s, an era that Andrew was never a part of. We each choose three cars from the 90s and battle over why Steve chose the best ones. Veronica shares her approach to classic car non-driving, Andrew chooses a dream house without a garage, and Steve shares what he would call his pet Cheetah. Get your votes in and let us know what you think of our choices.
