2 Dumb Dudes, 2 fake Porsches, 3 Terrible Ideas

of there is only one car that looks good in yellow, a speed yellow 993.

Speed yellow 993 is a great looking yellow car.

You know why they painted all taxicabs yellow?

And so you could see them and you know why you can see them because they're yellow.

Because no one else buys yellow cars because they're disgusting.

Hey guys, welcome to Overcrest.

I'm Chris and I'm Jake.

Jake, what do you think of when you think of the 70s?

Like, like, what do you think of?

Like, what's, you know, like kind of what's because neither one of us were alive.

The rug, the rug that we recently saw.

That is what I think of when I hear the 70s.

Well, I completely disagree on that.

We'll get there.

I think of like disco and Jimi Hendrix and kind of trippy cartoons

with lots of flowers and, you know, this is 60s, but I guess early 70s really

like bad era and like overrated music like the Rolling Stones.

You know, we're really popular.

But from like a car perspective, the 70s were rough, rough.

It was not the stylized disco lit version that people sell to everybody now.

I want to take a second to talk about mandates.

Yeah.

Yeah, I want to talk about the real 70s here for a second.

The real 70s.

Let's hear it.

All right, let's go.

Choked.

Just yes.

These were all the engines.

Just, you know, you could be into that, but not if you're an engine.

You know, it's, you know, it's so good.

I wouldn't want that.

By 1973, America was bleeding.

Inflation hit nearly 12 percent.

You guys think it's bad now?

Oh, 12 percent.

I mean, I think they were saying here was like 18 percent, but no,

but like the numbers were getting fudged.

You know what I mean?

Like no one was telling the truth and what the dude, that looks sweet though.

Look at all the cars and the styling.

It's great.

I don't mind 70s.

But the 70s performance was was rough, right?

It was kind of a bit rough.

For various reasons, mortgage rates for all the complaining we do was pushing nine

and then 10 and then 11 percent.

However, what, you know, my, my dad likes to talk to me about this.

He goes, yeah, my interest rates were like a 11 percent.

I probably first off the earning potential per capita.

Yeah.

The earning of your, how much the house cost based on your income ratio was

way different.

You jerk.

Anyway, the average average family's paycheck was shrinking month to month gas

that costs just 36 cents a gallon and 72 doubled in one year.

By the winter of 1974, people were sitting in line for hours just by 10 gallons

of gas, their engines were off.

They were shivering, watching the numbers spin on a pump they could barely afford

to reach in some cities.

You could only fill up on even or odd days depending on the last digit

of your license plate.

Gas stations closed on Sundays.

Neon out of gas signs lit up like tombstones along the road.

So can you tell us a little bit about the cause of that?

That was the OPEC embargo, right?

Go ahead.

Yeah, I don't know.

I don't know.

I didn't do the research, but it was.

I think if I were to speculate and this is just, I don't have a huge

grasp of geopolitics in the late sixties, early seventies.

However, quick.

Yeah, go ahead.

However, I'm going to speculate that it had something to do with going off

the gold standard is a lot of what it was doing and fighting with geopolitics

in that way because up until the you're wrong, you're totally wrong.

Okay.

Well, let me let me get well, all right.

Fine.

I still let me continue with my terrible speculation.

I know it's not right.

So the United States went completely off the gold standard in the late

sixties, early seventies.

I don't know the exact day, but Nixon did it.

And what that meant was prior to this, if you were France, you could bring

a ship over and go and collect your gold, turn your dollars in, load

your ship up with gold and take it home.

And the we went off there like, okay, well, we don't have enough gold

to do that anymore.

Uh, sorry, you're going to have to turn your ship around and go back to France.

So I'm guessing that there was a lot of geopolitical tensions around the

economy and the gold standard and the dollar being the reserve

currency for the world that may have had something to do with this.

Now, tell me how I'm wrong so that I can somehow parlay into what I just

said, being right.

Yeah.

And try to justify that you were right.

Yes.

Um, so 1973 is officially when the oil embargo slash the oil crisis started.

And this was basically it began with the Yom Kippur war.

That's, uh, and then, so basically we were, uh, supporting our ally,

which was Israel and a lot of the other local Arab exporting countries

and regimes did not like that, did not agree with that.

And so the organization of Arab petroleum exporting countries.

Oh, a pack.

Uh, we talked about, we talked about, um, in one of the history

episodes you did about how British petroleum came in and like funded

all of the oil drilling at that time.

And then contractually wanted to keep doing it and they got in a big fight

and everybody got angry.

Yeah, I do recall that.

I don't remember which episode, but yeah, it's the British petroleum.

Yeah.

It was basically all of Emiko too.

Yes.

That's true.

Um, but so like when OPEC, you know, all the Arab petroleum countries,

when they embargoed it and kind of shut their doors to us, then the

broader OPEC basically raised prices to kind of fill the gap.

And so things got way too expensive and the, um, entire supply then of

course became with shortages and everything else.

The embargo ended in 74 after the first Arab Israeli disengagement agreement.

But OPEC continued to cut production.

Leading to further price surge and making the start of the energy crisis.

Yeah.

There was a lot of consternation back then.

You know, we pretty much America and the Western world pretty much

came in and started making it possible to produce the oil in the first place.

And I'm sure there was a lot of geopolitical tension on what you're

owed.

You know, if you go over to someone's house and you help them, you know,

put the carpet in, you might as well invite them over for dinner.

And if you never invite them over for dinner, even though you help them,

uh, renovate their living room, that's not really, not really good.

Good, good, good.

I feel like I thought this was a personal reference or an attack and I was like,

wait, you never helped me renovate my living room.

Okay, good.

This isn't me.

Okay.

No, no, I did.

Sometimes the analogies are a little too close to home.

I would like everybody to know that I did help Jake move and he did

not help me move.

Um, true.

True story.

Yes.

True story.

All right.

So don't help.

There was a justification for that.

Don't help Jake.

What it was.

Is if ever Jake ever moves.

That's the moral of the story.

All right.

Thanks guys.

This was over crest wealth inequality.

If you think it's bad now back then, it was raw.

The middle class was being gutted in real time.

Factories were closing.

The stock market stock market was in free fall.

We know inflation was high.

The optimism of the fifties and sixties, which was born from the booming post war

economy, the GI bill, cheap fuel, suburban growth, and the belief that technology

could solve anything had burned off.

And all that was left was the hangover.

The American dream had a leaky roof and overbuild overdue bills taped to

their fridge.

But if you were a car person, the pain hit even harder.

Overnight performance was a dirty word.

Engines shriveled.

Compression dropped.

Horsepower ratings fell out by half smog pumps, EGR valves, catalytic

converters, everything was a muzzle.

Car magazines went from celebrating speed to printing fuel economy charts.

Doosius who grew up on the sound of big blocks and Webbers were not buying

hatchbacks and praying they could still find premium fuel.

Across the Atlantic, Europe was not doing much better.

Britain was on a three day work week.

Germany's industrial machine was slowing down.

Still fragile.

Only 30 years after the world war two, they were rebuilding its economy and

identity with massive help from American money through the Marshall plan.

Because without that, let's be honest, there might not have been much of an

economy left to rebuild at all.

Any Germans listening?

You're welcome.

Porsche, seriously, you're welcome.

We don't get enough credit for that.

I know it's a long time ago, but come on.

Porsche and Volkswagen both felt the strain.

Porsche was still small at that time, building about 10,000 cars a year.

The 911 was their soul, but it was not their future.

It was expensive to make, stubborn to modernize and vulnerable in a world

suddenly obsessed with efficiency.

Are you going to get to the story about the line on the wall?

Do you have the line on the wall story?

No, you can, no, you can interrupt me.

Oh, come on.

That's, we're not going, this is, that's an 80s story.

That's a late 80s, early 90s story.

That's not a 70s story.

We're in the 70s, Jake.

What you're saying is like 78.

No, no, no, no, no, this was.

I'm going to look it up.

Okay.

Well, are you at least going to talk about the clean air act like smog requirements

or what happened there?

What, what the whole reason, like why were cars choked?

No, like that's, that's, yes.

Well, they work because the remissions requirements.

Well, this is not a, this is not an episode about smog, Jake.

Well, okay, fine.

Some of us like context.

I'm getting there.

Will you just be quiet for a second?

We all know that 911 was Porsche's soul, but it was not their future.

It was stubborn to modernize and vulnerable in a world suddenly obsessed with efficiency.

The 914 partnership with Volkswagen had run its course and there was no affordable car left in Porsche's lineup.

Volkswagen, meanwhile, was staring down its own cliff.

The Beetle, once a miracle was dying.

Even back then, people must have known the Super Beetle was junk.

The golf hadn't yet proven itself and they needed a new image.

Something to say VW could build more than simple people's cars.

So who did they turn to?

That's right, Porsche.

In 1972, the two companies inked a deal.

Porsche would design a new sports coupe for Volkswagen, a modern front engine car using Audi parts.

It would be cheap to build, easy to service and refined enough to compete with Japanese imports that were quietly eating everyone's lunch.

Inside Porsche, the project was codenamed EA 425.

It wasn't meant to be a Porsche at all.

It was supposed to be a Volkswagen halo car, a spiritual replacement for the Carmagea and a sibling in spirit to the Scirocco that would soon define Volkswagen's sporty side.

Porsche engineers did what they always did, over-delivered.

The project styling was led by Harm Legge, a Dutch designer working under Anatoly Lapine who shaped its clean wedge profile that still looks modern today.

They gave it a trans axle in the rear for perfect balance, a clean shape and a cockpit that felt expensive for the money.

50 weight distribution, Chris.

Not just perfect balance, 50, 50 front and rear axles.

That would be what perfect balance is, Jake.

100% perfect.

It's redundant.

That's like saying yes, yes.

Perfect.

Yes, yes.

And then as we know, came the oil crisis.

OPEC cut production and within months of the cost of crude quadrupled, the line-outs of the gas station as we know got long.

So a sports car in this economy?

No.

VW canceled it.

And just like that, Project EA 425 was scrapped.

But Porsche could not afford to lose it.

They already poured millions into development.

The tooling was ready.

The engineering was done.

Wow.

Killing it meant not just losing time, but survival.

So they made a deal with Volkswagen.

Porsche would buy the rights back, use the existing Audi production line and sell the car under their own badge.

And in 1976, that's exactly what they did.

And the EA 425 got a new name.

The 924.

Yeah.

A front engine water cooled Porsche with an Audi engine and Volkswagen parts built in an Audi factory.

It was everything the purists said Porsche would never ever do.

And it worked.

They sold around 150,000 of these things.

For every 911 Porsche built in those years, they sold about two and a half to three of these.

The car everyone called a sellout kept the company alive.

They brought in younger buyers, studied the cash flow and funded the development of the 944, the 959,

even the 911 Carrera that purists would later praise.

If you bought a 911 in the 70s, you were doing pretty well.

You had a good job, a mortgage, probably a tennis membership.

But if you bought the car that started as EA 425, you're probably calling your way up.

You wanted a Porsche, but you wanted to keep the lights on too.

You lived in the same world as everyone else where money was tight, gas was expensive and nothing felt certain.

This was Porsche's lifeline.

And that's kind of the irony of the 924.

It wasn't the car Porsche dreamed of building.

It was the car that saved them from disappearing.

It is the Boxster of the 70s.

100%

You know, you think about it, right?

This car, it's funny when you think of what everybody loves from the 911, right?

Everybody loves the 911.

They won't shut up about the 911, right?

Porsche 911 is the greatest thing ever.

But it almost tanked the company 23 or four times.

And yet it's still what everybody loves.

And it was never what kept the company afloat, ever, never.

It's always the Cayenne and the 996 and the Boxster and the 924 and the 944.

There is in a really nice color.

So why, Jake?

Why are we talking about the 924?

Because I may have, what?

Because Chad Erickson at Newgate School, which by the way, I want to take a second to talk about.

First of all, Chad's been a longtime friend of ours.

And one of the first driver's club members ever, ever in this.

You know what? I think I'm like number one.

He was one of the first sponsors.

He was.

He was back when SCI performance was around, which is, you know,

has a very special place in my heart.

You know, me and the boys used to hang out every Friday night there.

And I really miss it.

That was the first time I met you, I think, was at SCI.

Probably.

A few months ago.

Yeah.

One of the like Friday night, yeah, hangs or F1 showing.

So he moved on from the shop and he is an instructor now at Newgate.

And it's a great place.

It's you can take your car.

You donate it and they have kids there that they teach how to fix the cars.

And then they place them in jobs.

It's fantastic.

I love, I love their, I love their, that's kind of the boil down thing,

but I love their message.

I love their journey.

I love their creed.

And anyway, so I get a message from Chad.

Hey, we have a car over here.

You want to see it?

I said, I'll see it.

And he says to be a text manager of the car.

And I'll let Mrs. producer pull up a picture of what this car was.

Wait.

So you.

So you had first inside knowledge before I had first, I had first inside

knowledge.

And because I am such a good friend, such a good friend.

The first person I thought of to to saddle this problem with was you.

And the main reason I thought of this is why.

Because it's yellow Chris.

Look, it's a yellow Porsche.

What is so shiny there?

It's so good.

It looks so good.

The thing has more orange people, orange peel than an award winning

orange from Florida.

Like if you pick the orange that was the most orange from Florida,

it would, it would have less.

I love it.

It's so great.

Do you know what I'm going to touch up some of the paint is I'm going

to find a Rust-Oleum yellow that like is close.

And I'm just going to keep it in the car.

I need my touch up.

That sounds like actually a pretty good idea.

The thing to do with this car.

Yeah.

Is as low as possible.

Yes.

On it.

Yep.

Bumpers.

We're going to do probably some suspension work needs shifter

bushings for sure.

Make it really nice to drive.

Probably clean up the interior a bit.

Maybe put a 944 exhaust on it because yeah, fold up and give

you like 20 horse and then just drive the piss out of it.

Yes.

I think it would be a fun car for you to take on the rally or

something like that.

That's kind of my plan is yeah, whatever our first event of the

year, maybe this will probably be the car there.

Yes.

Well, there's a kind of decent interior.

It's pretty nice.

And of course, I have a question for you.

Okay.

I don't understand the yellow car thing because you're buying it.

You're buying a yellow Cayenne.

You've had a yellow 996 you've got because of there is only one car

that looks good in yellow.

Let me let me wait.

Let me see here.

Let me think just to clarify this.

I'm not two cars for our 250.

GTO looks great in yellow because they made one of them.

Yeah, it looks great in yellow.

It's a good looking car.

It's tough.

You could probably paint that car like poking out like literally

that could be poop brown.

It'd be like, oh, that's the best color of that car.

It's true.

That's the other is a speed yellow 993 speed yellow 993 is a

great looking yellow car.

That's it.

Yeah.

There are no other yellow cars.

Yellow Porsches.

Yeah.

Just a 903 yellow 993.

That's everything else.

Yeah.

Is a taxi cab.

Yeah.

Is there something about yellow paint that's cheap?

Is it like cheap paint to produce?

Is why or why?

What do you mean?

Obviously, you can see them but they could paint them red.

You know why they painted all the taxi cabs?

Yeah.

That's pretty good.

You know why they painted all taxi cabs yellow?

It's so you could see them.

And you know why you can see them because they're yellow?

Because no one else buys yellow cars because they're disgusting.

Disgusting.

It's disgusting.

You're disgusted.

I've got the point across of how I feel about yellow cars.

Why?

Tell me the yellow car situation.

What's wrong with you?

Do you want to know the dead honest truth?

Yes.

You ready?

Hold on.

I don't like them either.

It's Nikki, isn't it?

Yeah.

And now it's just become a shtick so I have to just keep with it.

So why does she like yellow cars?

The only reason I like the yellow is because it is so rare.

I like rare models of things.

The car is not always...

It was red.

Why?

They made yellow ones.

This is a terrible example of it.

100% agree.

Why does Nikki love yellow cars?

Is it because of that RS4?

Probably.

Yeah.

I don't know.

No idea.

It's odd.

I think she thought it was...

It's odd.

She's a very boisterous and very...

I'm trying to say gaudy and obnoxious from a style perspective but nicely and say it

very in an endearing way.

So whatever that is.

Wow.

Insert chat, GPT.

Wow.

Yeah.

She's loud.

She's a very bubbly personality.

She likes that.

Yeah.

Exactly.

So yeah.

So there was first the yellow RS4 and then there was a yellow 996 Turbo and then there

was a yellow S5 and then I feel like there's at least one more yellow car that we don't

have accounted for.

The Cayenne that you haven't purchased yet that you're going to get, right?

Probably still.

Yeah.

How is that things...

I guess nobody else is going to buy it.

So I guess you don't have to move quickly.

It's perfect.

Yeah.

Just collect them all.

All yellow Porsches.

Let's go.

So yeah.

I'm excited about this thing, Chris.

Why?

I don't know.

Because the last thing I need is another project to like not be able to have the time to work.

Well, all your stuff works for whatever reason.

Everything runs.

You don't have a project.

So you say another project.

You don't have another car project right now.

No.

You have lots of house projects but...

I have a lot of house projects and I have a lot of like to-do lists for each of the vehicles.

Like I have things I want to do for each of them that I just haven't gotten to.

Yeah.

You were telling me your 911 handles terribly.

I got a...

The 911 I have to probably do bushings and wheel bearings and all of the things.

And then the truck I wanted to put the carbs on there.

I have all the parts for it.

It's just not...

It's there.

And then the...

I don't know.

There's...

Yeah.

There's other things.

But whatever.

So.

Let's buy this.

Yeah.

Let's buy this.

So we get over there.

You've committed to buy this.

You're buying this.

Oh yeah.

I told him.

So okay.

Literally you sent me the text with Chad and sent the picture and I was like yellow Porsche

done sold.

I'll take it.

And so yeah.

Committed.

Was there even an amount described at that time?

There wasn't.

Yes.

There was.

And I was like yeah.

Okay.

Easy.

Done.

Let's go.

It's a solid deal.

Yeah.

You can put some money into it.

And because it doesn't run.

And be fine.

It might run.

It's never been tried.

I think it might run.

Yeah.

It's CIS.

You know what the main...

Well, usually what the main problem is on those cars is the fuel pump relay because

it's a very weird system where it needs to have crank sensor in order to run the fuel

pump.

It was...

Yeah.

Because it needs the sensing ignition.

That's not weird or unique.

Volkswagen...

Everything had that.

Was CIS.

No.

Because usually when you turn the key to run, you hear the fuel pump start.

No.

This will not go fuel pump until you hear...

You get crank signal.

No.

That's not true.

Most cars of like Volkswagen and stuff are like this.

Like if you turn the key on, it goes, it just primes and then it stops.

And then when you crank, it'll sense that the engine...

That's so if you roll the car over or get into an accident, the fuel isn't just like pouring

at 150 PSI into a giant fireball.

But that's fine.

Yeah.

That's because I've got it wired like that.

You know, I've got it wired where the key on is just on.

Yeah.

Because we don't have a crank sensor either.

So...

You know what I do?

You know, I bet there's a way because I know a...

Like a regular SD...

You have a crank sensor?

Well, I have a hall sensor, which would work.

Oh.

What is that fire?

The hall sensor is what tells the...

That's what I have.

From the distributor, you can run it off the distributor hall sensor.

Yeah.

You could say, oh, there's a signal from the ignition.

The ignition is on and it is doing something.

The per coil is charged.

You can run the fuel pump if you want to.

Right?

You could figure some way to...

Well, the SDs don't just run the pump.

They just know that they...

No, you're right.

Anyways, one of the...

That's usually what is wrong.

It's just the relay.

And so...

Because it's hard to diagnose.

Well, every rabbit, I ever had it.

We have someone back there and feel...

Yeah.

What?

Hold on a second.

Stop.

Holding.

Oh, it just wants me to stop picking my pen and she gave me this.

So you have a stress ball instead?

I guess.

She came all the way down here.

Mrs. Pruse came all the way down here to give me a grape.

Wow.

That...

I mean...

Well, when it's produced, you'll never hear that.

That's the thing is you'll never hear it.

Nobody knows what we're talking about because they don't hear it on the produced version

of the show.

Anyway, so you've committed to buying this thing.

We've seen all the pictures now.

It's...

It's very...

Here's the thing.

It's very, very clean.

It is yellow.

When it used to be red, however, it's like super nice.

No rust on the...

No rust in the floors.

No, like nothing.

So it's...

Yeah.

It's kind of a fun one to do something with.

And of course...

Yep.

I get over there and what do I see?

Like 20 feet away from this.

Oh, boy.

We saw all sorts of things.

I know.

I did.

It's...

This is...

What do we got?

What do we got coming up here?

This...

Oh, this is the...

Well, this is the interior of the other thing that we saw.

Which the college professor tweed jacket interior...

And there it is.

Like the full street is so cool.

I've never seen that as a Porsche fabric.

No, I wonder if it was redone or something.

I know, but the front seats match too.

So anyways.

Yeah, a very clean 944.

Yes.

That you said you wanted to basically commiserate with me and both have transaxle cars at the

same time.

We'll be trans bros.

It's trans bros.

Yeah, the trans bros.

The trans bros.

That's exactly what we're doing.

Yeah.

So there's that car and I don't...

I feel like I have to make a decision by Wednesday.

And...

Yes.

And I don't know...

Because first of all, I have permanently lost the keys to my W124.

This is the reason you need another car is because you can't find the keys to your other

car.

That is the most stupid thing I've ever heard.

What?

I can't find my keys.

First of all, you would lose your head if it wasn't attached.

It's true.

You lose so much crap all the time.

I know.

I'm going a million miles an hour all the time and I set things down and continue on.

I will go 10 feet and then decide to do something else within the first three feet of it.

They have medication for that, Chris.

Yep.

But I...

Definitely not doing that.

Anyways.

So you need another car because you can't find your keys.

I love that rationale.

Yeah.

Yes.

I mean, the price is fine.

This isn't like a...

Oh my gosh.

It's not like I'm buying it to flip it or anything like that.

I was thinking that I would get this car and then potentially scout the rally with it.

Yep.

Just scout the rally, which I almost said where I was going there for just my first...

I noticed.

I was like, hold on.

How about just first event?

So I want to maybe pick it up for that because I don't want to scout in the W124.

I don't want to scout in my truck.

I don't want to scout in the 911 again.

You know, I would do the rally in the 911 because it's already been scouted, but some

of the places I've gone are pretty rough.

I mean, they're pretty hard on cars, like driving through rivers and in logging roads,

snow...

Well, yeah.

That's pretty ridiculous.

And I still want to take a car.

Like I could take the trooper and be totally fine anywhere I went, but I kind of don't want

to.

I want the challenge.

Yeah.

I want the mystery.

I want to maybe be stranded.

You know, I want to maybe...

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I actually used this software yesterday.

Yeah.

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It was super, super useful.

Usually I use it for scouting and finding roads and stuff like that, but being able to know

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Yeah.

It's interesting.

I've had several contractors and people out for the property for various things and they

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So this is going to be the scouting adventure.

I'll scout maybe in this thing.

I feel like I'm perpetually disappointed by 944s every time I drive one though.

So I'm a little bit, because I've driven a bunch.

I've driven your 951, which was quick, except it didn't hold boost, but it was quick and

well, it was.

And I love the driving position.

I love the way they look.

Did you not drive it when it was like fully dialed in?

No, I did not.

Really?

No, I never drove it.

That's sad.

Okay.

Yeah.

I never got around to it, I guess.

But I'm always perpetually disappointed.

I'm like, here we go.

It's the Porsche.

And then you're kind of like, oh, it's really slow and you want it because it's, you know,

it's got the flares and it's got the look and you're sitting in it and the gauges are

right there and you're kind of like slung back and it's got one of the best.

One of the best driving positions of any car that I've ever been in.

It feels great when you're in that car.

When you're in that car and the clusters there and the shifters in the right spot, everything's

laid out really, really well.

It is really good.

My only driving.

It is my only gripe with the driving position is one, they never put a tilt column in.

So like it's always awkward getting the steering wheel is like in your lap on all of those

transaxle cars.

And the other thing is I don't like the e-brake handle being on the left.

Those are my only two gripes about the driving position.

I don't really care about the e-brake handle.

I mean, I don't, I mean, I use that very infrequently.

You know, I'm not trying to pull the e-brake.

It seems like it should be in the center, but there's a transmission tunnel there.

So torque tube tunnel.

Yeah.

I don't really care about that.

And I'm sitting much farther away from the steering wheel than you are.

So that might, I might not have an issue with that.

Much, much, much further.

Yeah.

So I'm going to probably go back and forth about 150,000 times.

Oh, I know.

You're going to actually buy this thing or not.

So I was going to have you.

Do you want me to try to sell you on it or not sell you on it?

Let's try a sell me on the car.

All right.

Here's why that thing is great.

It is super clean.

It is like really clean.

No rust.

It is extremely clean.

It runs like underneath.

It's super clean.

It doesn't need an alternator, but it has a bearing noise coming from the alternator.

Yeah.

You know what I mean?

It's like you can drive it right now.

Yeah.

Needing an alternator.

It sounds mint.

Motor sounds great.

No miss.

I mean, it sounds really nice.

They put a new gas tank in it.

It's like good to go.

So it's a known quantity in the sense that it's already been gone through, right?

Yes.

And we know it.

It's super, super clean.

Like one of the cleanest examples you'll find.

It has already had some suspension work done to it.

Yep.

It's lowered.

It has some sway bars on it.

I've got wheels right here too.

I've got wheels.

I could just put on there.

Your wheels would literally bolt up and look awesome on it.

That's another huge plus.

It has the factory roof panel bag, which that was the most exciting part about my car because

usually these things are the first thing that are ever lost about the cars.

So it's just, it shows in my mind, it shows like, okay, this.

Oh, okay.

Like there was someone didn't lose it or keep it right there.

You know, you have all of it together, so to speak.

This is sounding great.

This is sounding like a really good idea.

I think it's a very, I want to learn more about that interior, that upholstery, because

if that's factory, that's.

You took a picture of that tag, right?

How unique it is.

Yes, we should look the option codes up.

Can you put it in the chat and see if it tells us.

Yeah, there's a whole, there's a whole thing for looking at the option.

Okay.

Now, so that's all the reasons to buy it.

None of them have to do with.

Here's the other thing.

No, I'm not done though.

Oh, okay.

You're not going to lose money.

You're not going to lose money on it.

Much.

I don't think you're going to lose money on it.

Okay.

So there's no downside.

And you can't find your keys to your other car, Chris.

I mean, that's the main thing right there.

You need to buy it, right?

And I'm thinking, you know, they're not worth that much money.

You know, they're not, they're not expensive.

Sometimes expensive to work on, but they're not.

And I feel, and I'm, I think what I would do is I would drive it through the winter,

scout with it, drive it, and then probably just sell it after that would be.

Sure.

Would be what I would probably do.

I really kind of feel bad driving this 300E in the winter because it's so cherry.

Just so every, every single thing on that car is new.

Everything.

And it's, and it's from California.

And it's such a nice, nice example of that car that it would be a shame.

I mean, I've got a stack of record books, like this, this frigate.

All right.

Now talk me out of it.

Oh, okay.

Um, well, it's, I mean, they're not rare, right?

So it's not like this is something you absolutely have to buy.

You're not going to kick yourself for passing it up.

It's not a life-changing driving experience.

You've already experienced them.

This isn't something quote new.

It's red.

It's not super, like nothing about it is like very unique or rare, except for that

interior.

Um, I've never owned one.

No, you've never owned one.

Um, what year is that thing supposed to be?

83.

Okay.

Good.

That checks out.

Um, okay.

What, what, what, let me ask you this question.

What would be a better car for me to scout in?

Like if we're thinking of it that way, like I could wait and then buy something

else.

Like I don't want to do another Mercedes.

I don't want to do my 911.

I don't want to do an E 30.

Um, you know, I amazingly, I, I don't find E 30s that entertaining to drive.

I don't.

It's just kind of just a sedan or a coupe and it's just kind of like,

right?

Um, it's not that interesting to me.

Yeah.

And honestly, the nine for four drives a lot like an E 30 in my mind.

Like it, it's better than an E 30.

There's nothing an E 30 does better, I think, than like a,

Whoa, you're going to, I mean, they're significantly faster.

I would, I would say that the inline six and the 30 engine is far superior.

That's going to 944, like far superior.

Come on.

And I'm 20.

And even an S two or a turbo, like those are very quick.

I don't, I don't like to, I don't like turbocharged engines either though.

Um, so that's tough.

Yeah.

I don't, I don't enjoy boost leg.

Um, and I, and I, I kind of want to like maybe do, you know, what I should have

done and what I should not, definitely not have done is me and Larson went up

to, you know, visit the, uh, what, what was the whole.

Uh, just for a trip, we just went up there.

We just went up there and like looked at the homestead and you know,

his aunt is moving.

So he wanted to show it to me before he moved to school.

It was nice to go up there and visit on the way up there.

I did a 85 mile an hour to zero.

ABS induced hard slam off the road to check out a car.

And what I was going to say, this is not like an emergency stop because of

a deer or another car or avoiding a pedestrian.

There's, there's a car full on.

It was a car for sale.

I could see the green neon green sign hanging from the mirror.

Um, and, and I apologize, Mrs. producer.

If I have not sent you pictures of this thing, I might have to dig them out

myself.

Um, let me see if I've got something that I can pull up here.

I'm trying to figure out the interior trim code for this thing is JC,

which is black partial leather.

So I'm thinking that is not a factory interior.

I legit don't have any, any photos.

It does, however, have the factory alarm system, which I noticed because

the little key behind the door.

Okay.

I have very little, very little photographic evidence that any of this occurred,

which is a good sign that I was having fun.

Anyway, so it's fun.

The only thing is Larson is so chill.

He's so chill that he goes, I'm not sure we're going to make this one.

We're like going to turn because it was like full.

He just goes, yeah, I'm not sure we're going to make this one.

And it was maybe 10 feet where I only had another 10 feet to stop and turn right

because I was like, I couldn't start turning because then I would lose the

tires would just scrub, but I would not be able to stop as well.

So I'm like, and then it was like, I'm not sure we're going to make this one.

And then it was like a judge of the right.

And I see out of the corner of my, I see this thing.

Let me share my screen here, which I think is a 74 challenger right here.

This is, and there was two of them.

So the one right here, this is the, the 500.

This is like a, I do not know more power from a hole in my head.

Okay.

So I don't know anything, but I know that this is a little early.

You know, I love how the grill goes around the hole or the bumper is the

whole engine grill.

Yeah.

It's kind of neat.

You know, it's,

like I said, I didn't realize that there's no bumper underneath the one was

like a small block two barrel thing.

And that was the one on the left, but which was nicer.

And then the one on the right had the bigger engine and, but it was rusty,

but they both kind of had like this, this kind of like cool look to them.

What do you think one of the nicer one, what do you think it cost?

1973 challenger with a three 20 something.

I don't know.

I have no clue.

I mean, if, yeah, it's, you're going to be 10 grand plus at least 15 grand dude.

Yeah.

15 grand.

Yeah.

And the kid's funny is the guy that owns the place pulls up with a trailer.

He goes, I got the keys right here.

That's what he doesn't say.

Hey, how's it going?

Anything I've got the keys right here.

Right here.

Let's go.

And they were kind of this awful brown color.

And I was thinking, ah, you know, if it was, if it was white, you know, you

know, no, no way, no chance.

If it was white, you kind of think about it for a second.

You know, you kind of just, you just start thinking about it.

But again, these are 72 and 73.

These are gas crisis cars.

They are toilets.

They make no power.

They're slow as shit.

And they're just the product of, of that time, which makes me kind of like,

because then you're going to find a 440 with a manual transmission and you're

down thousands and thousands of dollars into this car.

Oh yeah.

You know, and then you're trying to, I mean, even the drums were painted red

on the front.

So it's four wheeled drums.

Then you got to find a disconversion.

You have to all this stuff.

And pretty soon you're underwater by a million dollars.

Just like RJS with his Barracuda they bought down in the East Coast.

You know, by the time he gets some of that thing, he's going to have to have to

live in an apartment.

I think of these.

Mopar is just expensive, dude.

I don't know what it is, but Mopar costs money.

And I don't.

Why?

People love them.

Why?

Why do they cost more money?

What's the premium for?

What are you?

Is it pop culture?

Is it performance?

Is it?

It's a hemi.

It just seems like Mopar people are insufferable.

And this comes from a guy who is not in that world.

Like I don't, I'm not.

Either get it Mopar or you get a slow car.

Okay.

That's how it goes.

All right.

I completely understand.

Okay.

So we saw.

There's no actual.

What was the point of talking about going up there?

Anyway, we went up there.

I guess that was your alternative to buying that.

Because.

Oh yeah.

So like I kind of go.

Or it's a Mopar.

No.

I find something like that to Scala.

Definitely not.

Why not?

Why?

Why not?

I don't know.

Is it?

I mean, they're not good handling cars for the type of driving we do.

They are not made for that.

They're not.

They're highway cruisers.

Well, that's why Mitch's car is cool.

His, his, uh, his mercury, his cougar is right.

But you have to set it up as such.

Like you need to spend a lot of money on like custom, you know,

Fox body Mustang parts and all this stuff.

Yeah.

Like Mustang two front ends and like tubular everything and,

you know, roll bars that aren't supposed to be on the car.

And, you know, it's.

I just want something that when you floor it, it just goes like this.

Well, the two barrel will not do that.

No.

And also that means it will not actually corner then because

that's just on loose leaf springs.

Oh, you can't have a car that, that handles well and does,

does the, the frame twist.

That's, that's not, that's not.

Yeah.

It is, it is interesting watching Ian and his Camaro, which is

like largely stock.

You can lose them with the 911 pretty fast.

Oh yeah.

But I'm assuming he's having the time of his life back there.

He says he's having a good time.

Yeah.

You know, Ian is one of our, one of the rally guys and he's got a,

that's like a 67 or 68 Camaro.

Super sport.

The thing's right.

Get it right.

It's a 69.

Dude, I don't.

So that's kind of one of the things I want to do is I want to.

It's a, it's a 69, but yeah.

So I want to experience other worlds.

Yeah.

I get that.

That's in this.

I think that same, that same attitude of like how much funny

he's having, like trying to just like hustle the thing like.

Yeah.

That's then drive the van.

That's what I was doing this whole last fall.

Speaking of the van.

Oh, I'm not done yet because I thought of something else of why

you should buy this nine for four besides you need a car that has

keys for it is I still have a horde of cool parts.

So looking at the option sheet, this is most of them were power

steering, power assist cars, right?

Yep.

The, the steering rack I have that I haven't sold yet that I

still have up in storage is the super rare, super like everyone

wants it, um, non-assisted rack.

Are you just giving me all these parts?

No.

And then I also have the super rare, all original glass.

Yeah.

Glass Saratoga top, right?

So then it's actually like a sunroof.

Yeah.

And what else do I have?

I have like a spare radiator.

I have all sorts of spare fun stuff.

I'm not buying a single thing for me.

Nothing.

I will buy zero parts for you.

My goal would be to put my wheels on this and do literally as little

as the wheel spacers that I have then.

I can buy spacers on the internet.

Yeah, but not the factory Porsche part wheel spacers.

No, but our friends at H&R who make awesome stuff, I could buy them

from them and I could not buy anything from you since you're

trying to literally pawn off everything on me.

You know what?

Also though.

So you're going to put your fuchs on it because it would look

great.

And then because you're going to drive it in the winter, you

should get some Haka palitas for the factory wheels.

Right?

Yes.

Friends at No Keen Tires.

Of course, the inventor, the actual inventor, they created the

winter tire.

So they have their Haka palita, which is, oh boy, what is, oh,

we can't even, I can't even see what are you doing?

You're hefting a tire.

I got my tire right here.

I'm ready to go for winter.

You know, we got to put these on the, we got to put these on the

formatic right here, man.

Wait, is that, is that a, that's a brand new set with the sticker?

This is my brand new set of No Keen, uh, all weather Haka, or

these are snow.

Remember when I just asked you, I was like, oh, are we, are we,

yeah, we still got the inside hook.

I'm like, I don't know.

Meanwhile, Chris is just getting all the tires, all the tires.

Don't share the wealth.

No, certainly not.

Right here.

Sure.

It is going to be a fantastic winter over here at the Clule

Residence.

Especially.

You know what?

With a 50, 50 weight distribution car.

It's a great, it's a great dude.

Great dude.

But I don't think he's great enough to want to put his product on

the yellow Cayenne.

Oh, come on.

What about a yellow 924 then?

Huh?

You know, that thing would probably rip on some little pizza cutter

hakas.

Just like little like one 65.

Oh, it'd be perfect.

That'd be so fun.

Or if you want something for all weather, you course have the

Surpass AS01, which is our high performance all season tire.

So it's perfectly made for something like a transactional

Porsche where you want some performance and also want to

handle all of the different weather and road conditions you

have.

They also have your 55,000 mile warranty.

The Nokia tires, pothole protection.

So if you happen to damage your tire, beyond repair, Nokia will

replace it for free.

They have all sorts of awesome stuff.

It is like winter season though.

So I think really what everyone is going to be thinking about

right now is the infamous.

Can I ask you a question?

Fun to say, even more fun to drive on.

Check them out at nokiantires.com.

So here's a question for you.

When do you put on your winter tires?

Or when do you do that?

I have not done it yet, but usually it is before November

first.

Yeah, but there's like a temperature.

Like if the average temperature is below 50 or 40 or 50

degrees, that's really good.

You don't have to wait until snow.

It's 50 degrees.

It doesn't necessarily have to do with snow.

That's why it's called a winter tire.

It's the compound too.

The temperature and the compounds for the actual grip.

The biggest contrast you can have for that is if you were to

take out a summer tire when it's cold, you can see that it

just runs into a hockey puck and your all season is much

closer to the hockey puck that it is to a winter tire.

A winter tire is a massive difference.

I truly believe in them and Nokia makes the best ones out

there.

All right.

So speaking of the van, Jake, the van.

Yeah.

Ask less.

I'm sure we can get you some tires.

Yeah.

The van, which is, which is fantastic.

Our van is great.

The Overcrest van is cool.

But it's, it's, here's the way I said it nicely.

It is a Overcrest company asset.

Therefore, it is a depreciating asset.

It is becoming fully depreciated is how I say it's

becoming a liability.

It's only a matter of time before this thing lets us down.

And it is an integral and very, very important of our

operation and what we do because we pack everything up in

the van, all the stuff that we need, and it gets shipped out

or driven out to the, to the ceiling.

You know, it's a sardine cannon or room.

We need probably a little more reliability.

And we had a great day over Jake.

We had a great day over at Newgate school, didn't we?

We just had it just at a time.

I thought we were going to walk away buying four cars this

afternoon.

Me too.

And I think we might have.

The person that was the title was like, I'll tell

lunch or something.

So we, we, we didn't, we didn't do it, but we're going to go

back on Wednesday and spend all of our money.

Hey, Mrs. Producer, can you turn your microphone on and

let, let me know what you think of this.

That says it all.

Thank you.

Before we get into the replacement for the van, Mrs.

Producer, what do you think of the 944 purchase now that

you have heard it for the very first time?

Why?

But he can't find his keys.

Who?

What about the yellow one?

See?

Yeah.

Thanks.

Okay.

Well, it's ugly as a, as a very predictable response from a,

from a, from a, from a producer, I guess we would.

Woman.

All right.

Turn your mic.

I don't like you anymore.

I muted her.

It was very offensive.

Yeah.

She's a, I muted her.

She's all, she's gone anyways.

All right.

Back to my, my excitement.

Back to my excitement.

Yes.

So here we go.

This is Jake Silberg and, and we don't, there's nothing,

nothing's for sure yet.

So we're happy to hear your opinions.

The driver's club will be able to weigh in on this as we zoom out.

There's your rug, your 70s rug.

I don't know if that's a 70s rug, Jake.

I didn't know it screams 70s to me.

Just the colors.

This is a, go to an, you can go to an exterior shot if you could please.

This is producer.

This is a 1995 E 350 Ford ambulance ambulance.

And I kind of laughed about this a little bit.

And then we started to look around and go, wait a second.

This thing has power.

It has storage up the wazoo from the inside and, and the outside.

Yeah.

It could tow a car, which would save us, I mean,

over across biggest expenses is moving cars around.

Yep.

And obviously the answer that is, we'll just drive the stupid thing.

But it's just not, it makes, it makes another three,

sometimes it makes another three days on the, on the top of what is

already seven or eight days and doing that three times a year.

It's very, very hard.

I still very much enjoy road trips and stuff like that.

But it just, when you're trying to put out an event and you're trying

to do this for the community, taking another three or four days on both

it, both ends of things, two to four days, just doesn't work.

Then you're taking seven years, then you're gone for almost two weeks,

three times a year and you're, you just can't, which is kind of makes me

sad.

The solution I was, but yeah, so the solution was we ship the cars and

we fill the van up full of our crap and we ship it all and then we fly out

there.

That's, that's, that's what we do.

That's how it has to be.

You can talk shit all you want, but that's the way it is.

Yeah.

Oh no.

Let's go.

Yes.

Come on.

That's got to be thousands and thousands of dollars to make.

Oh, not at all.

That's just some, however, tires and what I do like about this is it does

show you what you can do with the lights because you wanted to like get

rid of all the ambulance lights and stuff like that because it's just not,

it's just not good.

That looks great.

This ours is a, hey, I'm already speaking like it's ours.

This ambulance is a Dooley too.

So it's a one ton Dooley with the 7.3 liter power stroke diesel,

which is that the same motor that's in your truck?

No, mine's the six.

So which is what everyone likes to hate on, but it's got the quote bullet

proof mods done to it.

So it's fine.

So the one in the van is better.

It's better.

It's the 7.3.

That's the one you want.

Right?

It depends.

We talked to.

Okay.

Well, just say yes.

Cause it's cool.

Yes, Chris.

Correct.

Yes.

Oh, yes.

See, you can, you can do interesting things with these.

Although I don't know that we would do a ton, like all the storage and stuff

that's there is great for all the stuff that we need to bring with us for

the rally.

I especially love all the like blood splatter everywhere.

And there's no blood splatter in there.

It's just, it is weird having like medical devices.

Well, yeah, obviously you'd pull out the oxygen stuff and the blood

storage and all these other things.

You get rid of this.

You get rid of this stuff.

But I think it would be good.

And I was trying to think about like, why do I think an ambulance is

cool?

Because if you tried to sell me on a 1995 E 350 van, right, there's no

world in which I would want one of those.

None.

I don't think they look cool.

They're, it's just a van.

That green one looked really cool.

Green did.

Yeah, I did.

That we just saw.

So then, so then why is an ambulance kind of neat?

Why does it like, is it just like, it's silly, Chris.

It's what it is, isn't it?

It's like the kid in us a little bit.

Yeah.

It's the kid.

Well, that one's too new.

I do like the idea of the roof rack on top of the cab.

See, there's some fun stuff we could do.

There's some fun stuff we could do.

So to keep it silly, you kind of have to lean into the ambulance.

I don't want to lean in.

I want to just.

I know.

I want to just be.

We can make it.

Too much.

The camber lens.

Cam, camber.

What?

Look at the camera.

Camber lens.

No, absolutely not.

But the good news is it's a, it's a one ton dually truck.

We can tow one or two cars with it.

It could potentially save overcrest a ton of money, which, you know,

would be really, really, really nice.

Yeah.

And, you know, we could sleep in it.

We could.

Well, you could.

You could sleep in it.

I don't want to sleep in there.

I'm probably just going to keep the van here so I can sleep in it.

Cause I.

Oh, look at that.

There's a rooftop.

Oh my God.

Jake, if you bring this ambulance to my house, I guarantee you,

Nikki is going to call me and tell me that you will be sleeping in

that ambulance.

Yeah.

I know.

Yeah.

If I bring this home.

Oh, it's done.

It's done.

It's over.

And I hundred percent would blame you.

I mean, I know Chris brought it over here.

I wasn't even expecting this thing to show up.

I didn't know anything about it.

You're going to throw me under the ambulance.

That's what you're going to do.

Yep.

You're going to be in the ambulance.

No, you are.

I'm, yeah.

Anyway, that's it guys.

It's all we have time for today.

We will keep you updated on what's going on on the drivers club.

Everybody already knew about all this stuff.

You were a member of the drivers club.

You would be on the discord hanging out chatting about, you know,

why Chris is wearing a different shirt than earlier.

Yes.

And ketchup and all sorts of fun inside knowledge.

Yeah.

As little as five dollars a month become part of it literally is a

community, which I think is kind of the coolest part.

Like there's perks, of course, but it's it's a community, which is

awesome.

Yes.

Absolutely.

Help us help us buy the ambulance.

I guess this is how you can look at this.

We want to do a thing like you get you get your name on like an

inside door or something.

Drivers club members get their name on the ambulance.

If here's the deal.

If you are $10 or more drivers club member, I will, I will

personally make sure that your name is visible on this ambulance.

Like on the rear door or something, we'll, we'll, we'll like engrave

it with like an engrave everybody's name permanently on the

van.

I will make sure.

Oh boy.

This is like everybody's going to up to their $10 a month from

five, and then we won't even buy the ambulance.

I have no idea what's going to happen.

I was going to say, let's not make promises.

I have a sneaking suspicion that this ambulance could legitimately

happen.

I feel like you have to talk it over with Jeff and stuff, but

it makes sense.

I think, uh, yeah.

Oh, and if you're part of the drivers club, then you get first

dibs on buying the old overcrest van.

Oh, yeah.

What would we do?

I wonder if anybody would want that.

You think anybody would want that thing?

Oh, come on.

It's a piece of history, Chris.

It is a piece of history.

It's cool.

It's a piece of history.

Yeah.

Well, I mean, anybody wants the overcrest van?

Let us know.

Priceless.

Let us know.

You heard it here first.

All right, guys.

That's all we got for this week.

We will see you next time with updates on the van.

Well, we'll see you then.

Take care.

Bye.

2 Dumb Dudes, 2 fake Porsches, 3 Terrible Ideas

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