The hosts dive into their upcoming trip to Vegas, aiming to win $90,000 to fund a new workshop roof. They discuss their gambling strategies, the rising costs of accommodations, and the excitement of the upcoming Bathurst challenge. The episode also features insights from their recent racing experiences, including driver performance and car setups. The banter between the hosts adds a humorous touch as they navigate the complexities of racing logistics and personal anecdotes from the track.
Peter sat in the pits with Zak's VSP Security Race Team consisting of the BMW M4 and Mazda RX-8 race cars. We discuss whether a good driver in a bad car will go better than a bad driver in a good car. Tom needs to win $90k in Vegas while he is there for SEMA.
"Because I was sitting at the back part behind the M4. And mind you, we haven't got everything out of the truck either."
The BMW M4 is a fast and sporty car made by BMW. It's designed for people who want a car that can be fun to drive on the road and perform well on a racetrack.
The BMW M4 is a high-performance sports car that is part of BMW's M series, known for its powerful engines and dynamic handling. It is often praised for its balance between everyday usability and track-ready performance.
"And the RX-8 turns up. I'm like, I've got to move."
The Mazda RX-8 is a sporty car that uses a special type of engine called a rotary engine. It's known for being fun to drive and has unique doors that open in a different way to make getting in and out easier.
The Mazda RX-8 is a unique sports car known for its rotary engine, which provides a high power-to-weight ratio and distinctive driving experience. It features a four-door design with rear-hinged doors for easier access to the back seats.
"What happened was the guy that was driving the Mazda in the RX-8 Cup, the first outing, he's engine blue."
If an engine 'blew,' it means it broke badly and can't be used anymore. This can happen for different reasons, like getting too hot or having a part break.
When someone says an engine 'blew,' it means that the engine has suffered a catastrophic failure, often leading to the engine being unusable. This can happen due to various reasons, such as overheating or mechanical failure.
"...I'm using the F1 as the barometer. F1. F1. So if you've got Max Verstappen at the front..."
F1 stands for Formula 1, which is a type of car racing that involves very fast cars competing on special tracks. It's known for its exciting races and high-tech vehicles.
F1, or Formula 1, is the highest class of single-seater auto racing sanctioned by the FIA. It features the fastest road course racing cars in the world, with advanced technology and engineering.
"...you've got Max Verstappen at the front. Mr. Licker. You've got Max Verstappen at the front..."
Max Verstappen is a famous race car driver in Formula 1. He drives for a team called Red Bull Racing and is known for being very talented and winning many races.
Max Verstappen is a Dutch Formula 1 driver currently racing for Red Bull Racing. He is known for his exceptional driving skills and has won multiple races and championships.
"To win an F1, you've got to be a good driver and a good car. You can't have ordinary in good or a good driver in ordinary."
Formula 1 is a top-level car racing series where teams compete in fast cars on different tracks. It's famous for its exciting races and the skill of the drivers.
"...ot to be good. Do you ever see, I think it was in Monte Carlo? Through the tunnel where the guys go."
The Chevrolet Monte Carlo is a stylish two-door car that was popular for many years. It was known for being sporty and was often used in car races.
The Chevrolet Monte Carlo is a mid-size coupe that was produced from 1970 to 2007, known for its sporty design and performance, especially in the 1970s and 1980s. It gained popularity as a personal luxury car and has a strong presence in motorsports, particularly NASCAR.
"...That's exactly like in F1. You've got tire wear, you've got fuel."
Fuel is what powers the car, like gasoline. In races, how much fuel you have left can change how fast you can go and when you need to stop for more.
In racing, fuel refers to the gasoline or other energy sources used to power the car. The amount of fuel consumed can affect the car's performance and strategy during a race.
"...Like the shocks of hand, everything. You know what I mean? That's exactly like in F1. You've got tire wear, you've got fuel."
Tire wear is how much a tire gets used up and loses its grip while driving. In racing, it's important to keep an eye on it to ensure the car handles well.
Tire wear refers to the degradation of a tire's tread and overall performance over time, especially during racing. Managing tire wear is crucial for maintaining grip and performance throughout a race.
"When a safety car comes out for 2-3 laps, then they know they've got enough fuel. And then until the driver goes for it."
A safety car is a special car that comes out during a race to keep everyone safe. It drives slowly around the track when there's a problem, so the racers can stay safe until everything is fixed.
A safety car is deployed in motorsport to slow down the race and ensure safety during incidents on the track. It leads the cars around the circuit at a controlled speed until the track is clear, allowing drivers to avoid dangerous situations.
'Hammer time' means it's time to go really fast! Drivers use this phrase when they are ready to speed up and race hard after being careful for a while.
'Hammer time' is a phrase used in motorsport to signal that it's time to push the car to its limits, often used when a driver is given the go-ahead to accelerate and race aggressively. It typically follows a period of conservation or caution.
"It's lately on my phone and TikTok's been coming up, Bathurst moments. And a lot of them are the last couple of laps where you haven't got enough fuel to finish the race and he's coming first. You've got to back off and you know what I mean? They know what's going on. But what you said, we've got Bathurst challenge coming up in the end of November."
Bathurst is a famous race track in Australia where a big car race happens every year. It's known for being very difficult and exciting for drivers and fans.
Bathurst refers to the Mount Panorama Circuit in Australia, known for hosting the Bathurst 1000, a prestigious endurance race. The track is famous for its challenging layout and scenic views, making it a favorite among motorsport fans.
"Was it the 1M or this M4? And, you know, turning onto the straight, they'll put their foot down."
The BMW 1 Series M is a special version of the 1 Series that is designed for performance. It has a powerful engine and is built for a sporty driving experience.
The BMW 1 Series M is a high-performance variant of the 1 Series, known for its powerful engine and sporty handling. It was produced in limited numbers, making it a sought-after model among enthusiasts.
"It's got horsepower. It's just set up of the car."
Horsepower is a way to measure how powerful a car's engine is. The more horsepower a car has, the faster it can go and the quicker it can accelerate.
Horsepower is a unit of measurement for power, commonly used to describe the output of engines. It indicates how much work an engine can perform over time, influencing a car's acceleration and top speed.
"It's got horsepower. It's just set up of the car."
The setup of a car is how all its parts are arranged to make it drive better. This can include things like how the tires are positioned and how the suspension is adjusted.
The setup of a car refers to how its components, such as suspension, tires, and alignment, are configured to optimize performance for specific driving conditions. A proper setup can enhance handling, stability, and overall driving experience.
"...wrong setup, the car's going to be like a bucking bronco. You can't turn to the corners."
The Ford Bronco is a tough SUV that can handle rough terrains and is great for off-roading. It has a unique look and is popular among people who love outdoor activities.
The Ford Bronco is a classic American SUV known for its rugged off-road capabilities and distinctive design. Originally produced from 1966 to 1996, it has recently been revived, appealing to both nostalgic fans and new buyers looking for adventure-ready vehicles.
"...like when we do Wakefield 300 or Easter Creek 300, you've got to refuel during the race."
The Wakefield 300 is a long car race where drivers race for 300 kilometers. Teams have to plan how to refuel and change tires during the race because it lasts a long time.
The Wakefield 300 is a motorsport event that typically involves endurance racing, where teams compete over a distance of 300 kilometers. Such races often require strategic planning for refueling and tire management due to the length and intensity of the competition.
"...or Easter Creek 300, you've got to refuel during the race."
The Easter Creek 300 is a long car race where drivers compete over 300 kilometers. Teams need to think about how to refuel and change tires during the race.
The Easter Creek 300 is another endurance racing event similar to the Wakefield 300, where teams race over a distance of 300 kilometers. Like other endurance races, it involves strategies for refueling and tire management.
"Now, what about tyres? The tyres don't last the whole..."
Tyres are the rubber parts of a car that touch the road. In races, having the right tyres is very important for how fast and well the car can drive.
Tyres are the rubber components that provide traction and support for a vehicle. In racing, the type and condition of tyres are crucial for performance, as they affect grip, handling, and overall speed.
The Honda S2000 is a small sports car that is fun to drive and has a powerful engine. It was made by Honda and is popular among car lovers for its speed and handling.
The Honda S2000 is a two-seat roadster known for its high-revving engine and sporty handling. It was produced from 1999 to 2009 and has a strong following among car enthusiasts due to its performance and driving experience.
"...But it's the right car. There's a lot of M cars out there."
M cars are special, faster versions of regular BMWs made for racing and performance driving. They have better engines and features that make them more exciting to drive.
M cars refer to the high-performance models produced by BMW's M division, which stands for 'Motorsport'. These vehicles are designed for enhanced performance, handling, and driving dynamics compared to their standard counterparts.
"for Tom to celebrate his 100s race. But you know what?"
The Audi 100 is a comfortable and well-designed car that was made for luxury driving. It was known for being efficient and having a smooth ride.
The Audi 100 is a mid-size luxury sedan produced from 1968 to 1994, notable for its innovative engineering and design. It was one of the first cars to feature a streamlined shape that improved aerodynamics, contributing to Audi's reputation for quality and performance.
"It's a beautiful car, the 540D. I drove to Queensland a couple of weeks ago."
The BMW 540d is a stylish and comfortable car that's part of the 5 Series. It's known for having a strong diesel engine, which helps it perform well while being efficient.
The BMW 540d is a luxury sedan that is part of the 5 Series lineup, known for its performance and comfort. It features a powerful diesel engine and advanced technology, making it a popular choice among enthusiasts and professionals alike.
The A45 is a sportier version of the A-Class made by Mercedes-Benz. It has a more powerful engine and is designed for better performance and handling.
The Mercedes-Benz A45 is a high-performance variant of the A-Class, featuring a more powerful engine and sportier handling characteristics. It's part of the AMG line, known for its performance enhancements.
The Toyota Supra is a popular sports car known for being fast and stylish. Many car enthusiasts love it for its ability to be modified and improved.
The Toyota Supra is a well-known sports car that has gained a cult following for its performance and tuning potential. It is recognized for its powerful engines and sleek design.
"you did lose a bet with the Range Rover. You're meant to come to"
The Range Rover is a fancy SUV that is very comfortable and can go off-road. It's known for being stylish and is often seen as a luxury car.
The Land Rover Range Rover is a luxury SUV that combines off-road capability with high-end comfort and technology. It's known for its sophisticated design and performance, making it a status symbol as well as a versatile vehicle for various driving conditions.
"I've got my hands on the suburban. On the suburban."
The Chevrolet Suburban is a large SUV that can carry many passengers and has a lot of space for cargo. It's often used by families or for work purposes.
The Chevrolet Suburban is a full-size SUV known for its spacious interior and strong towing capabilities, making it popular for families and commercial use.
"I've also getting access to a dark horse Mustang. Halil's excited."
The Ford Mustang Dark Horse is a special version of the Mustang sports car that is built for better performance and racing. It has more power and better handling than regular Mustangs.
The Ford Mustang Dark Horse is a high-performance variant of the Mustang, designed for track use with enhanced power and handling features.
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There we are.
I need 90 grand to build my roof at the workshop, so we're going to Vegas and we're going to see
what we can do.
Peter's going to be my ring man.
Good morning, good afternoon, good evening.
We're listening to the All Talk Car Podcast.
Tom is driving the Insane in figuring out ways to win $90,000 from Vegas.
Yes.
And I told you how to do it.
And we can do it.
We can do it.
We've worked out a formula.
A formula that allows us four or up to five errors.
Yes.
And then I've got no pants.
So yeah, if we get it wrong four times in a row or five times in a row, then we're fucked.
Well then it looks like I'm eating crisps.
So is that foolproof, you reckon?
I don't know.
Let's see.
I've got an allowance of four to five errors.
Well, you can't be wrong five times.
I know.
That's what it's called.
What kind of ring man are you?
We're going to be in the desert.
There's a rain there.
True, true, true.
We'll get matching suits and we'll play the song down the escalator.
And I said to him, it's never been done before.
Well, there you go.
See?
No, it's seen the hangover.
It's because the hangover done it and rain man and everyone else.
Never been done.
Never been done.
Well, I need a roof.
It's the only way to do it.
So you need a roof at the back of a workshop.
90 grand.
90 grand.
It's a big fucking roof.
Well, 90 grand covers a big roof.
A big tarp.
Are you going to cut it?
No.
We've got to come back with 90.
So what's going to go under the roof?
We expand here?
No.
It'll make a small workshop space.
At Tom's.
Yeah.
So by spending that money, you'll be making more money.
That's a good way of putting it.
Yeah.
So you've explained that to your bank manager or not?
No.
No bank manager this year.
No.
That's your years resolution to be no bank manager this year.
Especially at Vegas there isn't going to be any.
I don't know.
Security is coming.
Security is not coming with these burnt money.
Yeah.
He had us on a leash.
And the money with the ink stains on it.
So Vegas is literally weeks away.
We're finalizing it.
Yes.
Cars booked.
Yep.
Restaurants are booked.
Combinations booked.
Now we've just got to get a 90 grand.
One person fall away.
Yes.
But replaced with another.
Yep.
Yeah.
Can't wait.
A different location this time, which I was a bit down.
Yeah.
Because I like to always do the same thing.
Well, prices have gone out of control along Vegas.
Tourism is down 15% this year, they reckon.
Yeah.
But why keep it so high?
Because they're nickel and diming people.
I don't know why.
By the way, last year we stayed at Wings.
And this year to book the same kind of room is like over $10,000.
Yeah.
It's not.
It's not.
Like, you know, we need 90.
We're not going to spend 10.
Yeah.
Let's start 10 in the red.
That's right.
That's a good way to put that.
Of course.
So we're going to start sort of net positive.
So I've paid for the hotel and you haven't given me any money.
No, you're trusting me by gambling.
Just so I don't win any.
I can't make my debts.
I've got a fee.
There's a fee.
Actually, you might need to win 100 to pay my 10% fee.
No, there's no 10%.
Yeah, there is.
I just told you the system.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But that's all right.
You're looking after the system.
I'm looking after that system.
Yes.
I'll stuff it up straight away.
No, no, no.
I've got to rein you in.
It's your luck.
Your money.
You put it down.
I can't put it down.
I'm not putting it down.
No, no, no.
You follow the rules.
I'll fuck it up.
No, you follow the rules.
You can't.
If we're going to use the $90,000, the roof money.
Let's call it the roof money.
Yes, yes, yes.
Well, other money is my normal money.
Yeah, we did normal money.
Like, we did all right last year, the first two nights.
Yeah, then we done our other things.
Then we're fucking down south pretty quick.
And then Fireman discovered...
Pocky's opened at 4am.
Yeah, at 8am.
A $10 transaction.
How much are the transactions?
Like, 10 bucks or something.
You're so stupid.
I don't know.
Crazy.
I only used my card for a handbag.
Yeah, but you didn't use it at the 8am.
You used the card to pay to pay money.
So, I'm never going to...
I always used to swear, never talk about the next show
if you haven't done it.
What's the next show?
We were going to talk to the racing car drivers.
I hear what happened.
You were sick.
I bailed out.
I bailed out.
You were sick.
But everyone was going to turn up.
Everyone was going to turn up.
That was like a rare thing that everyone was going to turn up.
Everyone was going to turn up.
I even had a list of rundown of what their achievements were.
We were going to present the bottle.
It was a total fuck up.
He done his 100th race?
Yeah, so we're going to...
I gave my bottle.
So we're going to...
We'll get it together.
I mean, they're keen to come on the show.
The Rick Shaw team and they haven't been on the show for a while now.
And Rick's been overseas.
We want to talk to them.
But we did go out to the track at least.
Yes, we did.
And I watched...
I sat in the pit in the garage.
You watched security get run over.
I watched you guys in action.
I tried to keep out of the way.
But everyone's so polite.
No one says move.
Have you noticed that?
It's a funny race.
Because I was sitting in front of the toolbox.
Yeah.
And Zach went to go to the toolbox.
And then I'm thinking...
I'm reading the room.
I'm in front of something.
So I just got up and moved the chair around.
And like he got his tools.
I haven't dared that I asked.
This is the first race that we've done that we...
I don't know.
It just felt...
And then I was sitting...
A little bit empty.
I'll describe the views of the listeners in a minute.
We'll have the garage set up.
Because I was sitting at the back part behind the M4.
And mind you, we haven't got everything out of the truck either.
And the RX-8 turns up.
I'm like, I've got to move.
I'm sitting in the middle of the space.
So it's a two car garage.
Like a tandem garage.
You come in from the back.
And now it's a pit straight.
And the boys were rotating with it.
There was RX-8 racing.
Yeah, both of VSP's...
Both of them.
Zach.
Zach VSP security's car.
What happened was the guy that was driving the Mazda in the RX-8 Cup,
the first outing, he's engine blue.
So he was virtually out of the race,
but he was coming forth in the championship or something like that.
I'm not exactly sure.
So Zach offered...
Zach is.
Zach offered his Mazda to the guy.
So Zach did a race in RX-8.
No.
He gave it to the guy.
He gave it to the guy.
So even though he was using Zach's car,
the points go towards his car.
Yeah, yeah, I asked that.
Yes.
And we discovered again, it's the car's fine.
It's the driver.
Yeah.
Because we always thought there was something wrong with the car.
Zach, it's the driver.
So was the other guy quicker than Zach?
Yeah.
Okay.
And we raised that on the weekend.
We said, I'm using the F1 as the barometer.
F1.
F1.
So if you've got Max Verstappen at the front.
Mr. Licker.
You've got Max Verstappen at the front.
And you've got the shit guys at the back.
If you put Max in the shit car at the back,
he wouldn't be coming first.
But he wouldn't be coming last either.
No, that's right.
I reckon he'd be in the middle.
In the middle.
Where if you put the shit guy in Max's car,
he wouldn't be coming first.
No.
But he'd be in the mix.
Yeah, he'd be, yeah.
It's true.
It's got to be a partnership.
To win an F1, you've got to be a good driver
and a good car.
You can't have ordinary in good
or a good driver in ordinary.
You've got to be good.
You've got to be good.
Do you ever see, I think it was in Monte Carlo?
Through the tunnel where the guys go.
You're going to say Monte Carlo or Monte Carlo.
Monte Carlo.
And he, the last second, went around that car in the tunnel.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
That's reflex.
That's good.
That's reflex.
That's why you see him catching the balls.
I reckon 90 out of 100 drivers will round up these others.
I would have ran out.
I would have ran straight over.
Yeah, and you're right.
In board sports, it's instinct.
Spawning a gap or predicting the gap before it happens.
Those corners come up so fast.
Yeah.
You've got to be on it.
And they hit the apex each time, each time, each time.
Yeah.
See, last year we went to Hamilton Island.
We went car racing.
And it was only me and my son.
And I was bored racing.
And I kept on seeing how fast
and how close I'd get to the corners
and hitting my, like, doing it.
Consistent.
Yeah.
Like a racing line.
Yeah.
But consistent wasn't good because I hit it.
I hit it and wiped out about three times.
Oh, you were hitting the apex.
Yeah.
That's why Fitos is scared if I drive his race car that he's getting
because we're going to have a test of the Honda in his car.
I'm going to kill his car.
Like, you look at, even at Rx8 level,
you look at, you know, semi-frescials
or what's more, gentlemen racing.
Yeah, everyone's paying out of their pockets to be there.
But the consistent races, look at the times.
You want to hit the target time.
See, in that, it's pretty well even all the way through.
It's the driver.
Because the cars are pretty much the same.
Much the same.
It is the driver.
Yeah, but even whatever driver you are,
whether you're coming first or last.
And having balls.
Try be consistent.
Yeah.
Consistent coming last or consistent?
Consistent time.
Once you get consistency,
then you can work out where you can go fast or slow.
Yeah, true.
Yeah, I've never looked at it that way.
So if you've got a consistent, that's my lap around.
Yeah, but then you're throwing the mix.
Other drivers.
There's other variables.
But if you know that's your consistent time,
then you're going to look at your five, six laps overlapped,
like with the timing.
You're going to work out where I can make up time
and where I can't make up time.
You know, he just said it's a good thing.
I've got to say that because we're going to...
Can we sit with Zach and give some psychology lessons?
Yeah, because I want to get a lot more involved in it.
Like with the computer side of it too.
Yeah, there was a guy there with the computer too.
Yeah, I've been doing all the heads in.
What was his?
I don't know.
I think that was Adam.
So what was Adam's role?
What was he playing solitaire?
I don't know.
Because I saw the back of the computer.
But you can see everything the car is doing on the computer.
And I've been doing...
So it's reading the car.
It's got live...
Yeah, yeah.
And I've been doing all the computer guys' heads in.
I asked, can you put them over each other?
Can you see?
Yeah, that's right.
Like how much fuel is usually per lap?
It tells you everything.
And I realized that he's the guy that can make you win or lose a race.
Yeah, that's right.
Like the shocks of hand, everything.
You know what I mean?
That's exactly like in F1.
You've got tire wear, you've got fuel.
There's no refueling.
And a lot of the races that we went to on the weekend, there's no refueling.
Like you're fueled for those 518 laps, right?
Yeah, yeah.
And you see in F1 where you've got to be slow down your pace to protect the
tires and save the fuel if it's a fast race.
When a safety car comes out for 2-3 laps, then they know they've got enough fuel.
And then until the driver goes for it.
Go for it.
Hammer time.
It's lately on my phone and TikTok's been coming up, Bathurst moments.
Yeah.
Right?
And a lot of them are the last couple of laps where you haven't got enough fuel to
finish the race and he's coming first.
You've got to back off and you know what I mean?
They know what's going on.
But what you said, we've got Bathurst challenge coming up in the end of November.
Yeah.
Right?
We've been in the car a lot now.
We've pulled shocks out, sent them away and because we've got to see what's going on with
it.
But you know, I'm going to say to Zach, let's just try and work out your lap and then
improve on that before we go on to do the rest.
Because we've got a 6-hour decision.
That's right.
We'll talk about taking 50 kilometres of the car.
Yeah.
And he's a small fellow, so you've already started with your diet.
So that's good because I would have added 50 plus if I sat next to him.
Right?
So he was keen about losing weight on the car, which makes a big difference out of the track.
And we'll think about drilling holes in hinges.
Yeah.
Like we'll go it all out.
There's rules to it.
I started reading a few things.
You just can't grab a drill and start drilling all the way.
But I remember when he started doing the transition from Mazda to BMW.
But I remember once we went for test Sunday at, oh, this is the track.
I can't remember where it was.
Where the 1M?
Was it the 1M or this M4?
And, you know, turning onto the straight, they'll put their foot down.
The thing was twitching, going crazy.
You know what I mean?
It's got horsepower.
It's just set up of the car.
Like, you know what I mean?
And like with the Tom Shaw and Zack,
Zack, I don't think understands how to talk.
To say, what's wrong with the car?
What's it doing?
Yeah.
And Tom over...
Who was it?
Yeah, over, yeah.
You know what I mean?
And you can't get a medium.
Set up's important.
If you have the wrong setup, the car's going to be like a bucking bronco.
You can't turn to the corners.
It's going to be a mess.
That's right.
You're going to get the setup right.
But then you're going to then add your skill and work out
whether that setup suits your driving style.
That's right.
Yes.
So you've got to also learn as a driver what level you're at,
what you can and can't do, what you're happy with.
Yeah, because one setup won't suit another driver.
Of course not.
And their style.
That's right.
So you've got to work out what your style is,
but it's like, give and take.
You set the car up, you go out there,
then you tweak it to improve it.
And where is Zack's trying to tweak, tweak, tweak, tweak, tweak,
because you can spend the money, you can fix it,
you can improve.
Well, that's what we're doing now.
But you've still got to spend time on your head
and your ability as well.
You think about it last week.
I'm not saying Zack's a bad driver.
He did really well on the work.
We'll talk about that in a minute.
It depends on what happened the night before.
But what happened on the Saturday?
How did he go on the Saturday?
Oh, he did do too bad.
But he looked not too good when I picked him up.
But on Sunday he was...
But it's like there's other beams the same as ours there.
Yeah.
Right, that are...
They're fine.
First and second were the length of Easter's Creek straight
after five laps.
I remember going to Zack, listen,
at the start because he started...
Just watch what the other guy's doing.
Then I realized after the first lap
he was too far away to watch.
And he's in the same car.
But they've developed a lot.
Yeah.
We're just...
Like this is why we've taken the car off the road now.
We're just going there and just racing.
Yeah.
And I've taken a guess at the stab.
But that's why we've pulled it off racing.
Front end's out.
The shocks have been sent away
because I didn't even know this.
The shocks are made for the car.
Yeah.
You can't just buy a set off the shelf.
They've been built for that car.
That car, yeah.
I didn't know none of that.
But I'm learning.
I'm learning every...
Trust me.
Well, you read the rule book.
Yeah.
What did you learn in the rule book?
A lot.
A lot.
Like a lot.
And that's important because they're the rules.
Like again, F1 and Super 2.
Well, I want to learn everything.
They're the rule book.
Yeah.
If you follow Ben the rules,
that's what everyone's trying to get an advantage.
Well, I'm reading in all that for Zack.
And there's a lot for safety too.
You're really more care for the pick.
You can't do this.
You can't do this.
You can't do this.
Because you had a debate about the refuelling.
You can't refuel during the race.
But what about refuelling the other car
in the same pit?
Yeah, that's right.
See, they've got to be careful
on how they word it.
But, Ben, the setup of the car is everything.
We've pulled it off the road
because if we just left the car the way it is
and just kept on going
like to the next race,
to the next race,
we're really changing fuck all.
Yeah.
And we have to change.
That's why the batter's challenge will mean a lot to us
because we're going into the six hour this year.
We want to do well.
How long is the batter's challenge in November?
It's just a couple of days.
The race itself.
It's not a race.
It's just anyone with a speed license
can go around the track for classes.
Yeah.
But is it racing
or is it just like you've got an hour for RX-8.
You've got an hour for production.
You've got half an hour.
I think they're going on time.
Honestly, I can't remember.
So it's like just training.
Not training, more practice session.
But you only need a speed license.
Yeah.
That's the good thing about it.
I could just go there and jump in and go.
You don't need a speed license.
You need a speed license.
You do need a speed license.
Yeah.
But that's the lowest of the...
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
So that's like any racing license is a speed license.
Yeah.
But to race...
But to race the six hour, the 12 hour license...
To race the six hour,
you need an international license.
Okay.
Like there's all different, you know...
Because when last year we were looking for drivers,
now that you've read the rules,
now that we're more upfront
and now we know what level Zach's at.
Well...
We've got a few people we can invite next year.
Yeah, well...
I talked to Zach because I fell in love
with one particular person who I reckon
would be good for the team.
But then I was told that
we've already picked the drivers for next year.
I'm not going to say it
because he knows it could change.
Yeah.
And I would like it to change.
Right?
Because it costs a lot of money to enter this thing.
Yeah.
Right?
And I want to do well as much as...
To the right team.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
But like at the end of the day,
see before I was always...
I'd rather Zach get to drive.
You know?
Yeah.
So I'm looking at the exposure of the team
and the car by getting an international race driver.
Yeah.
And we've got two or three names
that are already circled for...
One was keen and we sort of told him
that we've got a V8 supercar driver.
Yeah.
Which was true.
But Squarley took his spot.
And he's got like a million followers on Instagram.
Like the promotion and even Bathurst itself,
the promotion of this person
that we invited his team to come out
would be phenomenal.
Well, man, the 6-hour has grown huge.
And if they weren't with VSP Security
outfitted and drove the car,
it's huge.
And that's what I'll speak to Zach about.
That's another story.
You've got to speak to him soon.
Yeah.
Because Easter's coming up very quickly
and it's a lot of preparation
and it's a shitload of money.
Yeah.
Like, man, it's not racing ain't cheap, man.
Yeah.
No, no.
You know?
No.
They say horse racing is a sport of kings.
Yeah.
I don't think this is a sport of...
No.
Man, the amount of money that you just get thrown...
He gave you the credit cards
to go and fill up petrol.
Yeah.
How much did that cost?
I didn't go.
Oh, you didn't go?
How much does it cost to fill up petrol
with Easter Creek?
It's two dollars something.
I can't remember.
And how many litres are in the tank?
I don't remember.
A hundred litres?
It's a hundred litres of tank.
So 200 bucks to fill it up.
How long is the hundred...
One thing at Easter Creek
is you just drive up to the boundary.
Yeah, I know that.
But how long is a hundred litres last on a race?
Well, it's tricking around that track
a litre and three quarters roughly.
So nearly two litres a lap.
Yeah.
A lap.
So you do a 20 lap race
which is not even 40 minutes.
Well, look, a 50 minute race
which was our last race,
choose the tank.
Choose the whole tank.
Okay, that's just petrol.
200 bucks for 45 minutes.
See, some of the events,
like the six hour,
we've got to refuel.
Yeah, no, no.
And that's,
Bathurst is up and down too.
There's a lot of humans.
Yeah, you've got to refuel
under how many times.
But there's other,
like when we do Wakefield 300
or Easter Creek 300,
you've got to refuel during the race.
Yeah, that's refueling, all right.
So the big races,
you're looking about grand refuel,
maybe more.
Now, what about tyres?
The tyres don't last the whole...
No.
Okay, they're controlled tyres.
Everyone's got the same tyre,
but they're not free.
I can't remember if they're
300 or 400 are tyre.
A corner?
Yeah.
And you need...
And you need one for a 50 minute race,
one set?
For sure.
So that's already 1,600.
It's called two grand.
For sure.
2,000 a race.
Yeah.
Or a 2,000 an hour.
And you've got to buy the tyres...
2,000 an hour.
Yeah.
Let's call it that.
Because it's a bit cheaper
to buy a set
and it lasts a race,
50 minutes.
But you go through some tyres.
And now that's...
We haven't even bought the car yet.
Haven't even bought
what the car needs.
Pete, when I see them
make up a decision
of we're going to take
these tyres off and put
you know, these on
because, you know,
when I'm looking...
I find there's nothing wrong with them.
Why can't we just run
another 15 minutes
of those on there?
Then there's a second of that.
Different people are paying
like, you know what I mean?
Like, put it this way.
I take the old rears
off the beamer,
the best ones
to keep it from the S2000.
Yeah.
You know, that's how good
they still are.
The tyres are the only contact
between the car and the road.
The tyres have been all
shit-laid, man.
The tyres are...
Pete, last week
I had a driver's change.
Were you there for the
driver's change?
No, no.
On the Sunday.
There would have been
the same.
They had a driver's change
and my job was
check the right front
pressure.
So, I went down there,
bent over very slowly.
I've seen the video of it
today.
I'm not very nimble.
You know, I checked
and Rick was car-controlled,
looked over.
As I screwed the
cap back on, I went to get up
and he goes,
what was it?
I go, 31.
He goes, what did I tell you
to set it up?
I knew already I was getting
that.
I go, fuck, you guys,
you've got enough time.
Undo that fucking
boiling hot fucking
little cap.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Did you burn your fingers?
And bring it down to 30.
Yeah, I burnt my fingers.
So, one PSI
makes a big difference.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, but talk about
burning hands.
So, we got a flat later on
about the 40th mark
and we had to change
a tyre.
I was a bit tired.
Yeah.
And he had to do it
with no gloves,
boiling hot fucking nuts.
Exactly.
You know, and I know
how hot they are
and Saturday,
because afterwards
all I could see for the
next half an hour was
pouring cold water
on his hands.
He'd done it bare-handed.
He wasn't driving
on the weekend, was he?
No, no.
Because he had the
aeroclote cup,
he looks after all.
But he looks after
Zac and Tom Shaw
in the V-Buff.
Yeah, yeah, yeah,
in the production gloves.
But his hands,
let me tell you,
five nuts.
He enjoyed it.
It was great to sit in there
because we've done it in
Bathurst,
but we're mucking around
in Bathurst.
Like, everyone was
sort of doing
qualifying
and training.
It wasn't,
but watching the pit,
how it works
when everyone's,
and when he
psychs himself up
before a race.
Which one?
Like Zac, you know.
Zac,
you can tell
he starts.
He's all right,
he's quiet
and then about
10, 15,
he starts pacing
and then when he starts
chewing his lip,
that strikes up a conversation,
but
No, I try and fuck around with him
as much as possible.
I have to relax him.
Yeah,
I don't know if it works,
but
Well,
I mean,
I think he's zoning in
on what he has to do,
but
I think he's just shit scared.
But as we were saying
on that last race
on the Saturday,
it was consistently fifth.
He was behind this car
all the way
and I think it's
fun chasing someone
and he got him at the,
picked him at the post,
got fourth.
Yeah.
So he's doing well,
man.
That M4 is a good car.
Like I said,
compared to where he was
two years ago,
different.
Like, yeah.
He's doing all right.
I think Zach thought
getting a faster car
would make him go quicker.
Yeah, but it does,
but everything comes quicker.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The car needs
a bit of sort now,
which will get done.
But it's the right car.
There's a lot of M cars
out there.
Yeah.
There's no AMGs
and Audi's
and everyone's got M cars.
Is it all com at all?
Like I've already said
to him next year,
I want to get more involved
in it,
but I need fit us
in relating me everything.
Yeah.
But like,
I understand
for cars that I've been steering
as long as they talk to me,
I sort of like understand
all that, right?
And I want to get more involved,
like try different setups
and shit.
Yeah.
You know, it's not hard.
No.
It's just having,
what do you call it,
common sense half the time.
I know.
But that was a good weekend
and thank you to Zach
and his team
at VSB Security
for letting us
hang out in the pits.
I know you're part of the team.
We do have the best looking car.
And they had the room
upstairs,
but we just
I went in there
usually on the heat.
I was in there behind the house.
Yeah.
It wasn't that hard in the garage.
There was a nice breeze coming
through upstairs.
No, when I left on my gear up,
they wouldn't even do anything up
there.
We just sort of only watched
the start of the race
and went back downstairs.
As soon as the race was over,
I loaded everything up.
I was just feeling
especially on Sunday.
I wanted to go.
Yeah.
We should have stayed
for Tom to celebrate
his 100s race.
But you know what?
I was just,
I just want to get the shit out.
So you're in Adelaide
next week because we're
going to catch up with them.
We're going to go out there.
I won't promise which bloody episode.
You know what I'm loving at the moment?
The five series.
Everyone loves that car.
It's a beautiful car,
the 540D.
I drove to Queensland
a couple of weeks ago.
Did you?
Yeah, I went for the conference
at the Gold Coast.
Mate, top car.
Conference?
Huh?
Conference.
Yeah.
Not meet friends.
Which I did on one night.
But it was a conference.
Mate, the car drives by itself.
And I think it's at the stage
where it's more dangerous with a car.
When I say steers,
like if you,
a lot of these European,
a lot of cars now,
you put the cruise control,
the disc.
How long does it go
before it tells you
to put your hands on it?
But I've got my hand.
No, not very long.
But does it stay in the lane
or does it bounce around?
No, no.
It stays in the lane.
The car is perfect.
The car runs beautifully.
So much that you're half asleep.
Well, I drive it.
You're not concentrating.
I drive a shitload of them.
It's more dangerous.
Some are very good.
The beam is great.
10 seconds.
You need your hands on the wheel
where the Merc gave you half a minute.
And the Tesla gave you.
Just top them.
Yeah.
But with the beam,
I was holding it.
I'm not sitting back
and I'm sleeping.
But mate,
you get so relaxed and not.
Well, you know,
if you fly there,
you can just relax.
Yeah.
Even then,
you need a car up there.
I love the drive.
It's me time.
Why don't you drive back
from Adelaide that time?
And I would have flown back
because it was
what we always wanted to do.
Remember,
we've been talking about it.
What would I knock
back driving a Ferrari
back from Adelaide?
Yeah.
And I knew my brother would be
crashed.
I would have driven most of the
way.
Yeah, I did.
I did.
And when he did drive,
I was awake anyway
because
I finally did the drive
with security.
Won the seats.
But too,
mate,
he wanted to drive.
Glad.
But that was after
why did we have a lot
of potholes?
Was it because of COVID?
Why did we have a
lot of potholes?
It was like,
everyone had those potholes.
Yeah, but it's only a
certain area.
Was it raining?
Yeah, it was probably.
Like,
it was fucked.
I'm glad he drove that part.
Yeah, because you get the
blame for everything.
Yeah, I know.
But now he's getting
fed up with the car
he's got too.
I think he's just fed up
in life.
Yeah.
Everything's a problem.
He's lost focus
on his focus as well.
Oh, that's got,
engines have got to come out
now.
Yeah, well.
It's got to oil leak.
You've got to register
the other day.
You've got to get
rego,
special rego.
Because if you leave
the road,
go over the...
Stages.
Yeah, stages.
It's on public road.
There's a special
rego.
Yeah, it says
on the license.
Oh, wow.
So if he's
driving on the road,
he's got to be driving
from a stage to another
stage.
Yeah.
It's not going to be
automatic.
But not three weeks
apart.
No.
You can't say I just
finished stage last week
and then stage one starts.
I started a couple
of weeks ago.
And I was like,
what's been happening lately?
It's happening
every second night.
Mainly at night,
everyone thinks I'm
a cop.
Everyone is doing
50 in a 50
in front of me.
And don't get me wrong.
I'm in a hurry.
I don't care.
My
go fast days are over.
Like I'm
happy cruising.
You know,
I drove
the A class today
and I had
the same dash as the
A45,
your car camera,
flashbacks,
the heated seats
car with the
Velua.
Last night,
if you're listening,
Mr.
Supra,
then I play with
SUU
PRA.
Right.
He pulled over
in front of me
and I overtook
and then he pulled out.
You shouldn't just
pull it up besides
A8.
No,
that's
the person who
could do that.
He just
said,
hello.
No,
you know,
you don't push it.
But
mate,
he pulled over
and I said,
obviously,
he's doing something wrong.
Well,
who cares?
I'm thinking
like a power tripping,
but
it's so funny.
It's,
but mate,
love it.
Best,
one of the best cars.
Better than the other
electric car, yeah?
I enjoyed the Tesla,
but this car
is just another level.
Okay,
hang on.
Yeah.
Actually,
someone was talking about you
the other day about
who?
I think they were saying,
well,
they're saying,
you're not going to
cross again, are you?
Oh,
maybe you buffed in a
rice at the
matter.
I did have to fix this
camera.
I got my
case.
So the driver
comes down the truck.
So when you fix cars,
just so the audience knows,
you don't necessarily
take money.
No,
no, we take food.
You take food.
So we brought
the guy comes in
the truck
to fix the reverse camera
because it's falling off
and all that.
I walk out there.
I go to him.
I look at him and I go,
and he knew straight away
what I'm talking about.
Because the guy
who's coming to pick me up
has got the box in there.
I go in that case,
leave the truck here,
and you go with him,
give me the box before you go.
I see.
You need to pay me.
I get my box.
I got your box.
I'm happy with my box.
Was it chocolate brownies?
What was in that box?
It was a thing of
brownies,
triple chocolate brownies
and cookies.
So do you get to order
it?
Or you know the menu?
No,
they just fill out whatever.
And they try and
if I go there,
they try and avoid me
from going in the factory.
They're at reception in the box.
Yeah.
Because after that last
Yeah.
Because after that last
time when I scared the shit
out of one of his workers,
mate, just put him in
the fucking box.
Don't worry about it.
Are you got to go to the
front counter?
I know what I want.
Just come on,
come on, come on.
Bring an empty box.
Are you sure?
Yeah,
they know it's all right.
Well,
if you're listening,
you did lose a bet
with the Range Rover.
You're meant to come to
Seymour.
And I did get a sneaky text
a couple of days ago.
What days is it on again?
So to be confirmed,
but I'm not holding
my breath or something.
Joke.
Well, there you have it.
Weekend at Sydney Motorsport
Park.
That was strict.
They wouldn't let me in.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, but at the same time,
there was no parking down
there anyway.
You parked in the
fire lane and no one
bothered you.
Yeah, true.
So that was in
another episode
about this group.
Isn't there some sort of
like internet,
like past you can get
like a media thing
that you always have on
you?
There.
There's a grandstand.
No, no.
But I'm just saying,
yeah, but there's media
there still.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'll find out.
You're the one.
You're the rulebook.
Yeah.
Well, that won't be
in the rulebook.
Yeah.
But there must be.
You get what I mean.
Like you're a...
The Bathurst is the big one.
What's that?
I seem to like
having any passes
to see how far I can push
it.
Yeah, I know.
With kids riding
scooters down.
Well, you did have
a pit pass on him.
I know.
You should have turned the corner
you could.
You told us to come away.
Yeah.
Once you turned the corner.
Yeah.
So, um,
yeah, it's a shame your son
fell over walking.
Yeah.
That's,
see his legs must have been
walking fast.
Must have been running.
Not walking.
Fast.
Fast walk.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So,
great ass reviewers.
Follow us on Instagram.
I don't do much
Facebook anymore.
Send us your questions.
I've got some
comments with some posts.
I will bring that up
next time.
Yeah.
So,
I'm going to run through them.
What are we?
Are we doing any shows in Vegas?
Yeah.
We're doing shows in Vegas.
Um,
even though the judging's a bit
up in the air,
we'll still have our mics.
We'll go around.
What I was thinking of doing
is we're going on the floor.
I wish I had it
for the drag race.
But we'll go,
but we'll go on.
We'll talk to the,
the garage guy
with the flooring system.
Like,
we'll be prepared because
because the,
um,
the judging's not happening
this year.
We're not that night.
Um,
we're going to do a live
drive over there as well.
Um,
I've got my hands on the
suburban.
On the suburban.
I've also getting
access to a dark horse
Mustang.
Halil's excited.
I told him,
so we'll do a live drive.
I know you don't like
live drives.
I'll bring Halil in
with the live drives.
And he's,
he's,
he's,
he's,
he's,
he's,
he's,
he's,
he's,
he's,
he's,
he's,
he's,
he's using live drives and he's, um,
and,
and Halil's wife saw him on,
uh,
someone sent her a clip on
YouTube or something.
She goes,
is that your husband?
He was featured in some
YouTube clip
for some guy that went to
the drags
with his GDSR.
And I've got to get
those.
The cameras from.
Yeah,
I told Zach.
So he goes,
you wanna go,
yeah, yeah, yeah.
Get for sema.
Yeah,
actually, yeah.
All right.
Let's,
give me the link and I'll put it up. It is good. That's from you. Yeah. Did they leave out the toilet
part? Yeah, they left all that out. I don't know why. I did give them a positive. Yeah,
because maybe because things weren't to scale, they didn't want to sort of...
What are you trying to say? I'm trying to say that maybe they had to put it in,
not in scale in order to... Well, we did the race review, so
a few shows coming up and then we're on the plane to America. So thank you for listening
and bye for now. Bye.
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